AT&T will also sometimes push out changes that will take the gateway out of passthrough mode. Took me ages to figure out what was wrong. Their network support guys are hilarious. They don’t know anything about networking strangely enough.
If it's not in the script, forget it your not going get anywhere- especially with the level 1 techs. The level 2 techs may or may not know a thing or two just depends on the tech. Level 3 guys are normally in the know!
Former AT&T Prem Tech here. I had a customer purchase there own BGW320 box which i thought was weird didn’t know customers could do that easiest ticket ever just had to come in install and SFP and activate. This bypass option in this video is awesome im geeked out by it. DIY is correct if you have to call AT&T for anything put the original box back in before calling in. Also if this bypass is installed I’m going to guess that the AT&T APP is not going to work properly either.
Great vid walkthrough, you're a prince among men. My last house(which was a rental) had AT&T with the GPON + ONT, and I ended up doing a bypass through WPA Supplicant and extracting my cert files from the old gateway(shoutout to DSLReports folks for their work on that method). Been stuck with Comcast at my new(owned) house, but finally AT&T is coming out to us(after 4 years of living here). I was a little concerned about not being able to do a bypass with the new combined ONT/Gateway. I'm elated someone found an SFP+ bypass. Now I know what to get to prepare for the fiber rollout. Best wishes from a Texan.
AT&T Fiber guy is here right now installing. I have an extensive Eero network here, with hardwires to each WAP. No way I’m giving that up! Well, at least not after he leaves! Haha. BTW, he checked each room for signal from his WiFi router, only reaches 1/2 my house. Thanks for the tips here!
Why would you let a quasi government agency into your home. I got rid of them as soon as their tech who came out to install their modem. What is wrong with big corporations and want to come into your home!
AT&T ran fiber in my area in spring 2020. I got the service in Sep, 2020 and have used the same BGW320 modem the whole time. My 1Gb up and down, ideally gives me about 950Mb down and up, not 1250Mb. I have had very infrequent issues and my speed test while watching this video was 940Mb down, 949Mb up with a 5ms Ping. I think that ONT on a stick looks cool as hell, but I have no reason to actually use it at this time. The power savings wouldn't equal the price of equip for a long, long time. I don't have a PF sense router, just an old Buffalo 1900AC router for backup and to give a couple of extra ethernet ports.
As an employee for a fiber company (not ATT), you can actually contact your company and ask which PON type you’re actually running whether it’s B/G/X. I wouldn’t see this being worth it if you’re on Bpon but you can get the adjacent adapter based on your PON type
That's if you can get through the stupid robot that tries to fix your internet before you get to a human, AND the tech you get even knows what the hell you're even talking about.
Hey @digiblurDIY , thanks for calling out our 8311 community! We have some stuff planned for the group buys (that might make them quicker), and we are always looking to improve. Thanks again!!
You guys/gals are doing an awesome job with this stuff. Looking forward to seeing things improve. I did get in on one of the last group buys but I figured for such a critical part of my home why not have a backup.
I'm almost certain I know what neighborhood you live in because I live there too! They installed fiber here about a year ago and I asked them if I could use my own equipment. I'm glad there is a way to do that now and there is an additional benefit to it.
I tried their system for 3 months. I really needed the business class, but they talked me into residential class. There were so many restrictions, that I had them yank it out. Their business class was too expensive. I fell back to 1GBs Spectrum Business Class. Got a discount, and this rocks.
Sounds perfect. They need to do their job better as it took them 3 or 4 tries and still failed. So many people still have fiber just hanging from fences and just sticking out the ground.
@@digiblurDIY OMG YES! I'm in north Houston area and we had to get the stupid burial crew out here three times before it was done "right-ish". When we called to complain about the initial bury, they sent the same exact two jack@SSes out here as the first time. After the third time we still ended up digging it back up in one area near all the water lines to bury it at a proper depth of 6" or more. And out here none of them speak English so you can't even call them out for doing it wrong, they just smile with that stupid grin they always use when they don't understand you. Oh and to make it even better, they're a UNION job so your install tech can't even dig and bury the line if they WANT to. (eye roll)
@idontneedthis66 ours speak English but they complain the whole time. One dude buried it half way and left it on the fence and just left. I waved him down as he was leaving and he just waved and drove off. Like bro! Finish the job. The techs.. Now they are cool as hell.
the only way you used to be able to do passthrough was to acquire a certificate from a donor modem and create a wpa_supplicant file then feed it to podman which can run on a unifi dream machine pro. certs were issued for 5 years so you'd have to repeat the process when the cert expires since that's how they identify their devices (at least did at one point) so you essentially would just spoof a modem.
The method in this video doesn't require anything donor. It uses your existing RG and works like a champ. No rooting, or donors needed. Just a a programmable SFP PON and some tech muscle to get the job done.
This is incredible. I've been wanting to do the bypass ever since we moved in, but couldn't get a donor modem that was compatible. So happy to see that's no longer required.
If you had a 320, pulling its cert was a pain. Getting one from a 210 (or 5268) was easier. These days, they've relaxed the 802.1x requirement for XGS-PON deployments with the 320. (why make the RG authenticate to itself?)
Have had the hardware and guides to do this for the past 4-5 months, just havent had the motivation to go through the steps until this video dropped.. thanks
@cliffx7 yes! It took them three times and they kept breaking it. I noticed it has already popped up in two places and man I don't want to go through that again with them. Long story
Didnt know I needed this, yet here I am. Thanks for the lead... Now if theyd do another group buy, and I could just find a couple grand laying around to upgrade my switches to multigig...
As a tech at mentioned company, we don’t really mind what you do after we finish up. But if you make changes, just be straight with us about what you did-no games. Some of us do enjoy this kind of stuff, but don’t expect us to have all the answers. If something goes wrong, as long as the fiber feed from the wall is good, you don’t need to call us back out. Just plug it back in the way it was. Just remember, to close out a job, our systems have to detect our equipment for checks, so we have to reset everything if we come back. After we leave, please give it 30 days before messing with things again or at least calling in to the 1-800 number. Repeats on orders affect that techs metrics. Please be mindful of that.
Good tips! The techs I have always talked with were pretty cool. The guys burying the wire.... Oh my... I feel sorry for you techs having to deal with their nonsense.
Thank you!!!! You give me hope in a world of ONT lockdowns. Although I realize what I'm trying to do won't have a "paint by numbers" solution, I'm going to try and get one of these working with Telmex Fiber in Mexico. If anyone here happens to be from Mexico and has already done some work on this, please contact me.
Wow that's expensive fiber rates. We pay $25 for the 10G here in Spain. Our building is serviced by three different networks, thank god for competition.
this is huge!!! as a LOOOOONG time at&t subscriber i've had this exact thought many many times and i'm so glad it's something as relatively easy as this LOL thanks!!!!!!!
The block A and B thing is a case of easy rollback so if you was to brick it can be recovered so you do not need to flash it again it means when updating you can revert.
@@digiblurDIY but the whole idea is if the firmware fails because of a bad image can be recovered to a point that you try a different image or get it working. But by doing strait off before you have it up and running you are in danger of totally bricking your device. The other memory block will not be in use so you will be running that software not. I work in networks as a network security engineer and deal with all the time.
Frontier FiOS allows you to plug in the Ethernet from the Ont into your router. Att requires this because they don’t allow you to use your own router with the att Ont.
Very true...that gateway gets a bit hungry and this is one less power supply to deal with. Massive difference too if you can jump from the GPON with separate ONT to just this simple SFP stick instead of those two other pieces of hardware. Definitely made it a pain if the ONT was in a garage then the gateway was in the house when trying to do battery backups for internet during power outages.
Here in brazil the tech peoble on big ISP are buying on aliexpress SFP+ GPON to change and bypass the ONT, have a webpage with models that work. Or SFP Gpon or 2.5Gb ONU. The good part, is that regional ISP are strongh here, and most uses ONU + Router, just need to request bridge mode
If you search here on YT "trocando modem vivo" "Se livrando modem da operadora" will Find some. Need a bit of work, but work, and I found people reciving with this 1.7Gb on 1Gb plan
That would be great if they gave us that option. Some ISPs do but AT&T is hell bent on forcing their gateway down everyone's throat so you don't get any option at all.
There is no need to upgrade the other firmware bootbank. The whole point is so that you have a way to switch from the latest one you just installed back to the prior one in case the latest is buggy. Why would you want to install a buggy version in both spots? The next time you upgrade, it'll go to the other slot, alternating back and forth.
Apparently the OLT can pick from what I read and I've seen people plug in the stick and the other boots. Now if I was upgrading revisions I would do just one at a time for testing.
What kinds of speed issues were you having? I’ve seen 2.5Gb and 5Gb work through the BGW320 reliably plenty of times. I always enable pass thru, disable packet filters and turn off all the advanced firewall features. After that it seems to work fine.
Out of curiosity and a familiarity with more normal fiber setups, I looked up what's special about XGS PON modules. Sharing. They're sharing a single fiber uplink with passive optical splitters. You and up to 256 of your neighbors are sharing a single 10 gigabit fiber being sold 1-5gb each. It needs to be 10x the cost of normal 10G-LR 10km modules because it has to handle the optical degradation of all those splitters, plus the timesharing logic. No wonder it has a massive heatsink.
The standard is up to 128:1. AT&T is doing 64:1 for XGS-PON. (32:1 for GPON) In most cases, there's only one splitter. (it's possible to cascade them, but T isn't known to do that.) An ONT is "expensive" (vs. a simple optic) because there's a full computer and other logic in there doing complicated things. That it can be shrunk into the form factor of an SFP is pretty impressive. (even the logic of an OLT can fit in one, too.) The BGW-320 is such a massive PoS because it's far, FAR more than just an ONT. There's an Nbase-T chip in there, as well as a 1G (4port) switch, 3 wifi radios, and a significantly powerful processor. But, yeah, 40W for all that is quite wasteful. (for example, my entire laptop - HP Elitebook 8560w - is using 28W right now.)
Massive beast of a box for sure. Now I will say it is nice for average soccer mom just wanting a few devices on his/her internet in the house and call it done.
@@jfbeam GPON was 128:1, XG and XGS-PON extended that to 256:1. I agree that's why the ONT is expensive vs a simple optic, and we agree on why they're so much more expensive. Apparently they're still cheaper than loading up racks with QSFP+ 4x10gbe ports running cheap 10g-LR. Being able to do the longhaul on a single fiber then use a passive splitter in neighborhoods must factor into the cost calculations as well, the less active equipment in the field the less maintenance they need. Pushing some of that cost to each unit may make sense at scale.
That is how all PON (passive optical network) works dude. The ont in your house or business is just a remote interface of the OLT (optical line terminal) shelf at the data center. If you want a dedicated fiber connection to the data center you are going to have to thousands of dollars a month for a business line and sign a lengthy (6 year is standard) contract.
Yeah I used to have a cablecard system in my media PC. Could tune 4 channels at once for DVR functions. Used Windows Media Center, it was so much better and faster interface than the buggy cable company box. Those cable cards were very sensitive. If there was a storm they can easily get fried. I went through about 4 or 5 of them. I'm having flashbacks 🤣 good times back then
Thankyou so much for this video. After watching this I took the dive and bought everything including a UCG Max a few flex switches and u6 ap's. My download speeds after the bypass dropped in half and I can't understand why?
@@digiblurDIY Yes. The media converter I was using was slowing download speeds by more than half. I was getting no more than 450 download but the upload speeds were over 1200mbps. I switched out the media converter to a different brand and now every thing is fine. I appreciate you for making this video and for taking the time to reply to my comment. Keep up the good work good sir!!!
You get more than you pay for with the BGW320 too, that’s just the nature of AT&T fiber. The people saying the techs don’t know anything about networking don’t realize that these techs are probably just telling you that because they are sick of trying to untangle the mess that customers make of their modem’s settings. Too many people that THINK they know what they’re doing but really they just know enough to be dangerous. You’re not going to get any better performance from this SFP. It might make you FEEL better because you think you’ve achieved something you’re not supposed to, but truthfully the BGW320 works great for 99.9% of people because most people don’t go jacking with the settings.
Yup set it to ip passthough, turn off 5ghz wifi, move on with life. Yes there is a connection limit, but oh boy is it high, might hit it if you are hosting a 1gb torrent.
I was having the upload issues after 5 or 6 months with the gateway combined with it deciding to factory default after a firmware upgrade overnight. Seems to be a common "feature" talking with others. Some of the major reasons I bypassed.
@@digiblurDIY Yes mine does factory resets after a firmware update. However i have only had 2 firmware updates in 3 years. So its not so bad. I know when it happens because my 5ghz is broadcasting again.
I've had AT&T techs tell me with shocking detail about how Cat5E is slower than Cat6 on a per foot basis, complete with BS math to back up his claims. Quite frankly why this is appealing to "real" network engineers is that we can use hardware - like a Cisco/Juniper as an edge device that we're familiar with using without having to jump through stupid GUI hoops to open ports/port forward things around. Combined with AT&T's demonstrated track history with introducing buggy firmware updates that crash randomly, randomly reset the configuration to defaults removing all the stuff that we spent an hour clicking around in the terrible interface setting up, etc. It's a no brainer. Sure there are idiots out there, there's a lot of idiot AT&T techs too.
I've been doing it the last year, but I had to use a tool to get the GPON Password from the router and emulate mac address, since the ISP won't give those. I must say tho, the hardest part is always to get the voice and iptv vlan working, since their tv boxes rely on it. But if it's a CATV box, there is a thing you can buy to give you the TV Signal to a coax.
Du der. Hvilken transceiver har du brugt før og nu. Jeg skifter til ny forbindelse snart, og ville også bare tappe direkte fra fiber boksen.? Får vist bare en gpon overgangs boks eller hvad det nu er.
I'm thinking ATT is getting ready to deploy fiber near me and I'm saving this video to prepare me for getting rid of any proprietary crap ATT wants to foist on me..
Fun video. I say that because AT&T maxes out at 768kilobit DSL in my area. POTS is not offered at all so the DSL is probably not actually possible. But make no mistake! This is AT&T and nothing is discounted. They still want 50 bucks a month for that speedy 768kilobit.
There are a few addresses around me that have 768k...crazyiness. Then the neighborhood adjacent to me has landline only offered from AT&T. Not sure you can still order that today though.
@@digiblurDIY landline is only for existing customers with it on there plan, it’s mainly just retirees that have it because they get it free or just older folk who don’t want to give it up
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough and the before and after results too! By chance how do you go about looking at the SFP stick status when it's operational and plugged into the WAN port? Is there a way to look at the statistics like you could do on the original RG?
Interesting. Seems like when I type in the private address of the stick it doesn’t go anywhere and time out. Do you simply type in the public ip and access it from within your local network that way?
AT&T will hijack your DNS requests regardless of if you implement this masquerade or not. You need to disable 'DNS Error Assist' in your AT&T profile online. Google it.
I'm pretty sure you can enable masquerading on a fortinet or unifi Enterprise router. Clone, the mac address of the modem and then plug the fiber up to that wan interface on your new firewall and again, you have to have some other settings enabled similar to whats showed in this video with GPON and your WAN has to he a SPF+ connection. So yes there are other ways to also do this Direct to a firewall. We would do something similar to this. When providers used to match bond the interface MAC address to their provisioning server. We would just clue the MAC address. Paste that in the interface of the wan port on the new firewall, and then we'd be on our way.
I did that over a year ago here. I put all on a server, running proxmox, pfsense, debian, etc, etc. I got directly to the server, no "dongle", "adapter", or anything.
Yea this video was confusing, why do it on SPF stick instead of on opnsense itself? All you need is some SPF+ stick which are like $20-40 on ebay. I wondered that the whole time. He's still having to run an entire OS on the spf stick and bypass through that, so it is still an extra layer. even if it is better than the AT&T box lol
@@sparkie5571 "routers" is too loose of a term, nothing is routing in these scenarios except the 1 single router running opnsense. the video shows how to bypass the at&t box that is just having SPF input and bypass to ethernet.. installing openwrt onto a different device and doing the exact same thing (spf input and bypass to ethernet) not even sure what you're asking though, be more precise & clear
I wondered the same thing lol. My friend ran a single SFP module directly to the wall and used a Ubiquity switch and plugged the SFP module right in an Boom picked up ATT DCHP IP.
@@digiblurDIY fantastic video and resource/information -- my transceiver from ECI arrives here in about 12 hours and I'll be using your video and the guide. Hoping I can program the unit via my Asus RT-BE88U (it has spf+ port) was seeing the same issues as you, downloads mostly fine, but uploads always seemingly artificially limited to that 200-300mbit range. You are right too on their shipping. Ordered on a friday, and it will be on my doorstep today (Wednesday) TX here.
Hey man, just wondering, have you tested using the Juplink directly as a transceiver instead of as a rig to program the SFP module? My ISP uses a quite massive ONT+T1 Terminal+AP combo just like AT&T's (and there are other tutorials involving xPON SFP modules to get it working around), but my main router is an UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra which doesn't have SFP. If the Juplink can be used to completely bypass my ISP's ONT, it will be amazing. At least their ONT doesn't cripple my network speeds on bridge mode. Oh well.
What are the chances of a cheaper alternative to the was-110 coming along? I'd love to do this, but I'm not actually having any issues with passthrough mode so the cost/benefit isn't adding up for me. Thanks for putting this on my radar though!
We had the WAG-D20 but didn't work out right with upload speeds. I haven't seen anything cheaper being talked about as it needs the ability to change the serial and such.
I'm astounded that you are getting 1.2 Gbs, I have the 1G plan and the HA Speedtest integration tells me that I am getting 675-900 Mbs Up and 47-675Mbs Down.
Yeah that's some of the issues I had with the previous bypass method and the AT&T gateway at times. I can get 1.2/1.2 all day long now on the 1G plan. And the key there is, the speeds work to even sites off the beaten path, not just to nearby AT&T sites.
One thing i thought about (since i cant use this because no 2gbs so cant switch frequencies) is the $200 adapter may pay for itself in 3-5 years in power savings if the BGW320 is drawing a constant 30-40 watts 24/7.
How do you get 30-40 watts? Did you use a kill-a-watt meter to actually measure? I external ont set up with a 320. The bgw consumed ~10-15 watts. Ont ~3-4 (nokia G-010G-A). I can't imagine the box drawing that much.
@@geepeezee5030 Idle with 1 port used i can get it down to 13.5 watts. Beating on it with 4 things plugged in and two on wifi and doing 500mbs, i can easily get it to 25 watts. And its rated max sustained power usage is 40 watts.
I'm curious why do you have that SFP+ to 2.5GbE adapter? I was trying to figure out why you would use that instead of putting the WAS-110 directly into the SFP+ port on your OPNsense router, but then I watched another one of your videos and saw that's exactly what you did.
I think the only thing I heard was some weirdness on the static IP blocks due to some limitations with the UDM line of routers. But there is a Ubiquiti channel on the 8311 discord with several peeps in there that have done it.
Is the Juplink adapter sold out? I'm not sure what the link you have in the info is showing. It shows me the transceiver is not available but the pon stick is. Does it come with the converter board?
Man I would love to do this for the heat / power / space savings in my little structured cable cabinet where my fibre comes in.. I already run OPNSense on a tiny R86S this seems like a great option however the cost is currently too high.
@@digiblurDIY I have 1Gbit service currently and a nokia ONT box that lets me get full speed already and is reliable.. If I move up to my ISPs 3Gbit plan I have to use their ALL IN one router that is bigger and has 10Gbe ethernet as an output.. I would MUCH rather put in this fibre device than put an ethernet 10GBe SFP+ module in my box.
I don't need this, I have my full speeds with my router managing bufferbloat well. My latency before and after was always in the single digits but I see 2 potential benefits; increased privacy as they don't have a controllable device in your home, and with my router being a low powered device, I can live off my solar or a generator easy when there are power outages that do not deplete the other end.
@@digiblurDIY I got mine setup today, your tutorial was a huge help, thank you. That being said, I am not getting full download speeds. The download speed seems to be half and then over time it degrades to less than 100mbps. I am getting the full upload speed though. The suggestions in the troubleshooting guide hasn't lead to a solution. If/when I find a solution I'll post it. If you've experienced this any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I've tried the following thus far: -The optical power is within spec. -Change the link speeds manually.
partially wishing AT&T would route the fiber to our house so I can ditch Comcast/Xfinity (been in too many arguments with their contractors and level I&II techs - have met some really cool ones but the majority just go through the motions w/out base knowledge/troubleshooting skills). Hopefully with all the new homes and construction going on it will be routed to the homes near the lake. Was rooting for Google, but they dropped/slowed the project outside of Metro area.
Sometimes they seem to throw darts at a map for areas they do. I've seen them skip some easier above ground neighborhoods yet they retro fit the underground one across the highway. I would have thought they would have snagged the neighborhood north of me where they only offer landline, no DSL. I bet there are many neighbors chomping at the bit to switch off the monopoly cable ISP there.
Yes they can detect but people have been bypassing for years. Legality, are you stealing service? Nope. They control the speeds and if your "port" is turned up.
Unrelated question, where did you get that fan for your rack for your router? I use a similar router and it gets pretty hot (probably due to me having it in my garage, sometimes life works out that way). I have my ceiling fans constantly running but I am sure this would be way more effective. I appreciate the help, thanks!
Yep. I did this when the burial guys kept cutting my line trying to shove it in the ground an inch. It already popped out in one place and I need to call again but dreading dealing with the burial dept. Those guys definitely screw over the techs in my area. I would put the gatewaybafk and wait an hour or so after they left before swapping back.
What happens after the tech leaves is the business of the subscriber. lol. If you're savvy enough to perform this work then I'm sure the subscriber can do you a solid.
You don't have to, but spoofing the gateway's MAC means you can use the existing DHCP lease, so you don't have to wait for it to expire to get a new one (hence the possible 20 minute wait)
Hello, Great video! my question is more relate to the N100 opnsense router. I have just ordered the WAS-110, and it will be coming pre-flashed with the community. my question is are you able to enter the WAS-110 through the topton router/opnsense? i'm in 8311 discord and they stated that a lot of people have issue with was-110 with sfp+ cage (basically the n100 opnsense router with sfp+ in it). i don't want to buy the router then only to come to point where i cannot access the was-110 UI via through topton/opnsense. let me know!
shrug, I just put my pfsense in the passthru mode and assigned the MAC. I'm getting 950+ down 950+ up so i consider it "good enough" for me needs. Not a fan of the extra box but it does double duty for "DMZ" and "Guest" wifi that doesn't need to be on internal network.
Lucky. I had issues with the gateway resetting during firmware upgrades, I had this happen to a family member as well, seems to be a common issue. I also had the issue with uploads on the gateway for some reason. It wasn't there until more people started getting it in the neighborhood oddly enough. I thought it was just being oversold a bit too much but then I see that isn't the case.
2.3Gbit up and down and bro has "connection issues" I remember paying for T1s back in the 90s, $1300 a month per 1.5Mbit. We had 3 at our dialup provider and a squid server pulling data down over satellite for caching.
Too much talking and waffle - Has anyone got a bullet point guide to doing this?
Yes. The guide I went through. Videos aren't for everyone.
Would you like your food pre-chewed too?? Open notepad and srart your own outline.....
The guy has a point. A LOT of blabbing in the video.
I am editing it down and posting on Vine soon.
@@digiblurDIY I need shorter. Can you do a 2-3 second GIF please thanks
AT&T will also sometimes push out changes that will take the gateway out of passthrough mode. Took me ages to figure out what was wrong. Their network support guys are hilarious. They don’t know anything about networking strangely enough.
YES! I've seen this crap too. Annoying as hell.
Typical monkey brain. Can do anything but know nothing.
Not so much "changes" they just push a new FW that has it revert to default backup values
@@RIRWINJR83 Which is different from the existing setting. Hence, it is a “change” in the state of that setting.
If it's not in the script, forget it your not going get anywhere- especially with the level 1 techs. The level 2 techs may or may not know a thing or two just depends on the tech. Level 3 guys are normally in the know!
Former AT&T Prem Tech here. I had a customer purchase there own BGW320 box which i thought was weird didn’t know customers could do that easiest ticket ever just had to come in install and SFP and activate. This bypass option in this video is awesome im geeked out by it. DIY is correct if you have to call AT&T for anything put the original box back in before calling in. Also if this bypass is installed I’m going to guess that the AT&T APP is not going to work properly either.
Yup. The app kinda freaks out and says something is wrong, no big deal though.
Great vid walkthrough, you're a prince among men.
My last house(which was a rental) had AT&T with the GPON + ONT, and I ended up doing a bypass through WPA Supplicant and extracting my cert files from the old gateway(shoutout to DSLReports folks for their work on that method).
Been stuck with Comcast at my new(owned) house, but finally AT&T is coming out to us(after 4 years of living here). I was a little concerned about not being able to do a bypass with the new combined ONT/Gateway. I'm elated someone found an SFP+ bypass. Now I know what to get to prepare for the fiber rollout.
Best wishes from a Texan.
Yeah I had to deal with crappy Cox cable over the years. Such a mess, I feel for ya!
AT&T Fiber guy is here right now installing. I have an extensive Eero network here, with hardwires to each WAP. No way I’m giving that up! Well, at least not after he leaves! Haha. BTW, he checked each room for signal from his WiFi router, only reaches 1/2 my house. Thanks for the tips here!
Getting XGS-PON?
Why would you let a quasi government agency into your home. I got rid of them as soon as their tech who came out to install their modem.
What is wrong with big corporations and want to come into your home!
You're my hero. Ive spent over 40 hours on the phone with ATT and 5 damn 320-500s in a year. Cant wait to do this.
DO IT!
If your going through 5 gateways in a year, it's not the gateway.
AT&T ran fiber in my area in spring 2020. I got the service in Sep, 2020 and have used the same BGW320 modem the whole time. My 1Gb up and down, ideally gives me about 950Mb down and up, not 1250Mb.
I have had very infrequent issues and my speed test while watching this video was 940Mb down, 949Mb up with a 5ms Ping.
I think that ONT on a stick looks cool as hell, but I have no reason to actually use it at this time. The power savings wouldn't equal the price of equip for a long, long time. I don't have a PF sense router, just an old Buffalo 1900AC router for backup and to give a couple of extra ethernet ports.
@@TheJimmybeam82 Maybe, but there are lots of ways things can break.
@frommatorav1 you are on gpon. Gpon won't do more than 950mb
As an employee for a fiber company (not ATT), you can actually contact your company and ask which PON type you’re actually running whether it’s B/G/X. I wouldn’t see this being worth it if you’re on Bpon but you can get the adjacent adapter based on your PON type
Can you give a cliffs on why bpon isn't worth it?
@@beanMosheen it’s kind of like using 802.11b wifi… would you still buy something now just to keep it running? Or request an upgrade?
That's if you can get through the stupid robot that tries to fix your internet before you get to a human, AND the tech you get even knows what the hell you're even talking about.
FINALLY! Not all heroes wear capes. Can't wait to get this going.
The 8311 firmware dudes get all the credit there. Amazing stuff.
I have been doing this bypass for a while. Rock solid.
Where did you get the SFP? The link in this video says pre-order.
Hey @digiblurDIY , thanks for calling out our 8311 community! We have some stuff planned for the group buys (that might make them quicker), and we are always looking to improve.
Thanks again!!
You guys/gals are doing an awesome job with this stuff. Looking forward to seeing things improve. I did get in on one of the last group buys but I figured for such a critical part of my home why not have a backup.
Did this a few months ago. First time in my life I’m finally free of telco junk
I'm almost certain I know what neighborhood you live in because I live there too! They installed fiber here about a year ago and I asked them if I could use my own equipment. I'm glad there is a way to do that now and there is an additional benefit to it.
Nice! Welcome neighbor!
I tried their system for 3 months. I really needed the business class, but they talked me into residential class. There were so many restrictions, that I had them yank it out. Their business class was too expensive. I fell back to 1GBs Spectrum Business Class. Got a discount, and this rocks.
They are my only hope here. Broken and slow cable ISP that charges double is the other choice.
WOW.. I have been keeping an eye for this for ATT... other providers have been bypassed... I'm so on this with my PFsense
Cox fiber does the same thing with their modem box
so you have to get an SFP card in your pfSense router instead of RJ11? or do you need both?
i work for att in north austin and im so happy this came up on my recommended gonna make it more worth it to upgrade to a proper router
Nice to hear from yall! Most of the techs here and fiber splice guys have been super cool. The burial dept... Not so much.
@@digiblurDIY And now they are all on strike
Sounds perfect. They need to do their job better as it took them 3 or 4 tries and still failed. So many people still have fiber just hanging from fences and just sticking out the ground.
@@digiblurDIY OMG YES! I'm in north Houston area and we had to get the stupid burial crew out here three times before it was done "right-ish". When we called to complain about the initial bury, they sent the same exact two jack@SSes out here as the first time. After the third time we still ended up digging it back up in one area near all the water lines to bury it at a proper depth of 6" or more. And out here none of them speak English so you can't even call them out for doing it wrong, they just smile with that stupid grin they always use when they don't understand you.
Oh and to make it even better, they're a UNION job so your install tech can't even dig and bury the line if they WANT to. (eye roll)
@idontneedthis66 ours speak English but they complain the whole time. One dude buried it half way and left it on the fence and just left. I waved him down as he was leaving and he just waved and drove off. Like bro! Finish the job.
The techs.. Now they are cool as hell.
Excellent review. I did similar to remove an Alcatel i-240G-R. They put the MAC on the back label - so it was trivial to copy it.
Thanks!
Nicely done. Really important to have some tinkering with those Routers and SFP modules. Kudos!
Couldn't agree more!
What. Great video. Love the style. Feels like a true og RUclips video. No scripts. Love it.
Thanks! Old school and real without the script nonsense.
This going into the learning archive. Great video and don't aologize for" rambling", your just being you. Be you do you mano!!!✌🏿
I don't apologize. :) Embrace the trolls. They can fast forward and jump around as necessary.
@@digiblurDIY Ha Nice!
the only way you used to be able to do passthrough was to acquire a certificate from a donor modem and create a wpa_supplicant file then feed it to podman which can run on a unifi dream machine pro. certs were issued for 5 years so you'd have to repeat the process when the cert expires since that's how they identify their devices (at least did at one point) so you essentially would just spoof a modem.
So it seems this method does not require a donor certificate?
The method in this video doesn't require anything donor. It uses your existing RG and works like a champ. No rooting, or donors needed. Just a a programmable SFP PON and some tech muscle to get the job done.
This is incredible. I've been wanting to do the bypass ever since we moved in, but couldn't get a donor modem that was compatible. So happy to see that's no longer required.
If you had a 320, pulling its cert was a pain. Getting one from a 210 (or 5268) was easier. These days, they've relaxed the 802.1x requirement for XGS-PON deployments with the 320. (why make the RG authenticate to itself?)
I don't have AT&T fiber, but watched the whole video. 😅
We done!
Same I even subscribed
Same here videos like this are gold
@ca2997 thanks yo!
Have had the hardware and guides to do this for the past 4-5 months, just havent had the motivation to go through the steps until this video dropped.. thanks
You can do it!
I’m one of those cool AT&T techs and I approve this message!
Nice! Always been a joy to talk with them on the visits. Burial dept...now that's a whole different story there.
@@digiblurDIY I 100% agree!! The BSW crew never bury it deep enough!
@cliffx7 yes! It took them three times and they kept breaking it. I noticed it has already popped up in two places and man I don't want to go through that again with them. Long story
Didnt know I needed this, yet here I am. Thanks for the lead... Now if theyd do another group buy, and I could just find a couple grand laying around to upgrade my switches to multigig...
As a tech at mentioned company, we don’t really mind what you do after we finish up. But if you make changes, just be straight with us about what you did-no games. Some of us do enjoy this kind of stuff, but don’t expect us to have all the answers. If something goes wrong, as long as the fiber feed from the wall is good, you don’t need to call us back out. Just plug it back in the way it was.
Just remember, to close out a job, our systems have to detect our equipment for checks, so we have to reset everything if we come back. After we leave, please give it 30 days before messing with things again or at least calling in to the 1-800 number. Repeats on orders affect that techs metrics. Please be mindful of that.
Good tips! The techs I have always talked with were pretty cool. The guys burying the wire.... Oh my... I feel sorry for you techs having to deal with their nonsense.
Thank you!!!! You give me hope in a world of ONT lockdowns. Although I realize what I'm trying to do won't have a "paint by numbers" solution, I'm going to try and get one of these working with Telmex Fiber in Mexico. If anyone here happens to be from Mexico and has already done some work on this, please contact me.
Wow that's expensive fiber rates. We pay $25 for the 10G here in Spain.
Our building is serviced by three different networks, thank god for competition.
Digi?
That's very cheap. I pay $100 a month for 1GB cable.
Damn cheap. Coax cable vendors are even higher here. $200ish for 2000/35 for unlimited tier.
Because it’s government subsidized, and the U.S. also is a much larger land mass to maintain a fiber network on than Spain - 19x bigger at that.
@@jfordnetregardless, lack of competition = higher prices
this is huge!!! as a LOOOOONG time at&t subscriber i've had this exact thought many many times and i'm so glad it's something as relatively easy as this LOL thanks!!!!!!!
Yes it is awesome!
The block A and B thing is a case of easy rollback so if you was to brick it can be recovered so you do not need to flash it again it means when updating you can revert.
That's for stock. I don't want any stock on there at all. Now if I upgraded to a later community firmware then this is totally fine.
@@digiblurDIY but the whole idea is if the firmware fails because of a bad image can be recovered to a point that you try a different image or get it working. But by doing strait off before you have it up and running you are in danger of totally bricking your device. The other memory block will not be in use so you will be running that software not. I work in networks as a network security engineer and deal with all the time.
Love this!! I’ve been waiting for a YT vid on how to do this and now I know how to do it with my Frontier FiOS!!
Fairly close procedure and been working great here for several weeks.
Frontier FiOS allows you to plug in the Ethernet from the Ont into your router. Att requires this because they don’t allow you to use your own router with the att Ont.
@@Sdoc0798Yeah you are right but it’s a massive box that I don’t really need to have so I would prefer to just go direct sfp+ to my router
Power savings is another reason to bypass
Very true...that gateway gets a bit hungry and this is one less power supply to deal with. Massive difference too if you can jump from the GPON with separate ONT to just this simple SFP stick instead of those two other pieces of hardware. Definitely made it a pain if the ONT was in a garage then the gateway was in the house when trying to do battery backups for internet during power outages.
Here in brazil the tech peoble on big ISP are buying on aliexpress SFP+ GPON to change and bypass the ONT, have a webpage with models that work. Or SFP Gpon or 2.5Gb ONU.
The good part, is that regional ISP are strongh here, and most uses ONU + Router, just need to request bridge mode
If you search here on YT "trocando modem vivo" "Se livrando modem da operadora" will Find some. Need a bit of work, but work, and I found people reciving with this 1.7Gb on 1Gb plan
That would be great if they gave us that option. Some ISPs do but AT&T is hell bent on forcing their gateway down everyone's throat so you don't get any option at all.
You are a saint. Thank you for this, I've been looking for a way around this forever.
Glad I could help
Thank you for this video man, I definitely would not have been able to do this without you!
Glad I could help!
There is no need to upgrade the other firmware bootbank. The whole point is so that you have a way to switch from the latest one you just installed back to the prior one in case the latest is buggy. Why would you want to install a buggy version in both spots? The next time you upgrade, it'll go to the other slot, alternating back and forth.
Apparently the OLT can pick from what I read and I've seen people plug in the stick and the other boots. Now if I was upgrading revisions I would do just one at a time for testing.
What kinds of speed issues were you having? I’ve seen 2.5Gb and 5Gb work through the BGW320 reliably plenty of times. I always enable pass thru, disable packet filters and turn off all the advanced firewall features. After that it seems to work fine.
Issues such as settings reverting on the gateway, latency issues with lots of connections, and slow uploads.
THIS MAN IS A HERO. A LEGEND. A FREAKING GOAT! Thank you!!!
Out of curiosity and a familiarity with more normal fiber setups, I looked up what's special about XGS PON modules. Sharing. They're sharing a single fiber uplink with passive optical splitters. You and up to 256 of your neighbors are sharing a single 10 gigabit fiber being sold 1-5gb each. It needs to be 10x the cost of normal 10G-LR 10km modules because it has to handle the optical degradation of all those splitters, plus the timesharing logic. No wonder it has a massive heatsink.
The standard is up to 128:1. AT&T is doing 64:1 for XGS-PON. (32:1 for GPON) In most cases, there's only one splitter. (it's possible to cascade them, but T isn't known to do that.) An ONT is "expensive" (vs. a simple optic) because there's a full computer and other logic in there doing complicated things. That it can be shrunk into the form factor of an SFP is pretty impressive. (even the logic of an OLT can fit in one, too.)
The BGW-320 is such a massive PoS because it's far, FAR more than just an ONT. There's an Nbase-T chip in there, as well as a 1G (4port) switch, 3 wifi radios, and a significantly powerful processor. But, yeah, 40W for all that is quite wasteful. (for example, my entire laptop - HP Elitebook 8560w - is using 28W right now.)
Massive beast of a box for sure. Now I will say it is nice for average soccer mom just wanting a few devices on his/her internet in the house and call it done.
@@digiblurDIY I'd call it overkill for the common "soccer mom".
@@jfbeam GPON was 128:1, XG and XGS-PON extended that to 256:1. I agree that's why the ONT is expensive vs a simple optic, and we agree on why they're so much more expensive. Apparently they're still cheaper than loading up racks with QSFP+ 4x10gbe ports running cheap 10g-LR. Being able to do the longhaul on a single fiber then use a passive splitter in neighborhoods must factor into the cost calculations as well, the less active equipment in the field the less maintenance they need. Pushing some of that cost to each unit may make sense at scale.
That is how all PON (passive optical network) works dude. The ont in your house or business is just a remote interface of the OLT (optical line terminal) shelf at the data center. If you want a dedicated fiber connection to the data center you are going to have to thousands of dollars a month for a business line and sign a lengthy (6 year is standard) contract.
This is the equivalent of using a cablecard back in the day.
Yeah I used to have a cablecard system in my media PC. Could tune 4 channels at once for DVR functions. Used Windows Media Center, it was so much better and faster interface than the buggy cable company box. Those cable cards were very sensitive. If there was a storm they can easily get fried. I went through about 4 or 5 of them. I'm having flashbacks 🤣 good times back then
Except this tries to keep you out
If the sfp on the back of the 320 has a green sleeve it is gpon if it has a red sleeve it is xpon.
And I think yellow if it uses the Alt Optics one.
Thankyou so much for this video. After watching this I took the dive and bought everything including a UCG Max a few flex switches and u6 ap's. My download speeds after the bypass dropped in half and I can't understand why?
Are you using wired?
@@digiblurDIY Yes. The media converter I was using was slowing download speeds by more than half. I was getting no more than 450 download but the upload speeds were over 1200mbps. I switched out the media converter to a different brand and now every thing is fine. I appreciate you for making this video and for taking the time to reply to my comment. Keep up the good work good sir!!!
You get more than you pay for with the BGW320 too, that’s just the nature of AT&T fiber. The people saying the techs don’t know anything about networking don’t realize that these techs are probably just telling you that because they are sick of trying to untangle the mess that customers make of their modem’s settings. Too many people that THINK they know what they’re doing but really they just know enough to be dangerous. You’re not going to get any better performance from this SFP. It might make you FEEL better because you think you’ve achieved something you’re not supposed to, but truthfully the BGW320 works great for 99.9% of people because most people don’t go jacking with the settings.
Yup set it to ip passthough, turn off 5ghz wifi, move on with life. Yes there is a connection limit, but oh boy is it high, might hit it if you are hosting a 1gb torrent.
I was having the upload issues after 5 or 6 months with the gateway combined with it deciding to factory default after a firmware upgrade overnight. Seems to be a common "feature" talking with others. Some of the major reasons I bypassed.
@@digiblurDIY Yes mine does factory resets after a firmware update. However i have only had 2 firmware updates in 3 years. So its not so bad. I know when it happens because my 5ghz is broadcasting again.
I've had AT&T techs tell me with shocking detail about how Cat5E is slower than Cat6 on a per foot basis, complete with BS math to back up his claims. Quite frankly why this is appealing to "real" network engineers is that we can use hardware - like a Cisco/Juniper as an edge device that we're familiar with using without having to jump through stupid GUI hoops to open ports/port forward things around. Combined with AT&T's demonstrated track history with introducing buggy firmware updates that crash randomly, randomly reset the configuration to defaults removing all the stuff that we spent an hour clicking around in the terrible interface setting up, etc. It's a no brainer. Sure there are idiots out there, there's a lot of idiot AT&T techs too.
I love your disclaimer.
Been doing that for the last 5+ years here in Denmark 👍
Nice jealous of my friend in a neighboring town. They ran fiber like 20 years ago. Definitely ahead of their time
@@digiblurDIY i never did any firmware stuff on my sitck, i just put in into Opnsense and its works.
I've been doing it the last year, but I had to use a tool to get the GPON Password from the router and emulate mac address, since the ISP won't give those.
I must say tho, the hardest part is always to get the voice and iptv vlan working, since their tv boxes rely on it.
But if it's a CATV box, there is a thing you can buy to give you the TV Signal to a coax.
Du der. Hvilken transceiver har du brugt før og nu. Jeg skifter til ny forbindelse snart, og ville også bare tappe direkte fra fiber boksen.? Får vist bare en gpon overgangs boks eller hvad det nu er.
@@PatalJuniorwhats the tool you used ?
I'm thinking ATT is getting ready to deploy fiber near me and I'm saving this video to prepare me for getting rid of any proprietary crap ATT wants to foist on me..
Fun video. I say that because AT&T maxes out at 768kilobit DSL in my area. POTS is not offered at all so the DSL is probably not actually possible. But make no mistake! This is AT&T and nothing is discounted. They still want 50 bucks a month for that speedy 768kilobit.
Which area is that? I had a friend who said that 64kbps was about 200 Euros a month in Brazzaville.
There are a few addresses around me that have 768k...crazyiness. Then the neighborhood adjacent to me has landline only offered from AT&T. Not sure you can still order that today though.
@@digiblurDIY landline is only for existing customers with it on there plan, it’s mainly just retirees that have it because they get it free or just older folk who don’t want to give it up
Can't say I know anyone with a landline. Even elderly retirees have embraced the cell phone.
@@digiblurDIY AT&T retirees won’t get rid of it cause you can still call out and in when power goes out
Good work. I am over here crying paying $155 a month for 950/35
Totally get that. Was paying Cox cable $170 for 1000/35. Still shocked they did my neighborhood.
Thanks for the detailed walkthrough and the before and after results too! By chance how do you go about looking at the SFP stick status when it's operational and plugged into the WAN port? Is there a way to look at the statistics like you could do on the original RG?
Yes, you use the ONT stick GUI, there's stats galore there.
Interesting. Seems like when I type in the private address of the stick it doesn’t go anywhere and time out. Do you simply type in the public ip and access it from within your local network that way?
On Opnsense I had to create a virtual IP of 192.168.11.5/24 on the WAN interface.
Thanks a bunch! Makes sense. I’ll give it a shot and see what I can do. Appreciate it!
Thank you for this video!! I havent been able to get DNS to work on my OPNsense router because of the stupid ATT router.
Ahh yes... Thats always been an issue with that box with DNS
AT&T will hijack your DNS requests regardless of if you implement this masquerade or not. You need to disable 'DNS Error Assist' in your AT&T profile online. Google it.
Interesting stuff Travis. Thanks for sharing.
I'm pretty sure you can enable masquerading on a fortinet or unifi Enterprise router. Clone, the mac address of the modem and then plug the fiber up to that wan interface on your new firewall and again, you have to have some other settings enabled similar to whats showed in this video with GPON and your WAN has to he a SPF+ connection. So yes there are other ways to also do this Direct to a firewall. We would do something similar to this. When providers used to match bond the interface MAC address to their provisioning server. We would just clue the MAC address. Paste that in the interface of the wan port on the new firewall, and then we'd be on our way.
You can use any SFP+ capable router, media converter or whatever you want. You just need the ONT XGS-PON SFP module cloned to your billable settings.
I did that over a year ago here. I put all on a server, running proxmox, pfsense, debian, etc, etc. I got directly to the server, no "dongle", "adapter", or anything.
Yea this video was confusing, why do it on SPF stick instead of on opnsense itself? All you need is some SPF+ stick which are like $20-40 on ebay.
I wondered that the whole time.
He's still having to run an entire OS on the spf stick and bypass through that, so it is still an extra layer. even if it is better than the AT&T box lol
@@gg-gn3rewas a little confused that you’d now have two routers, instead of just the config on your main device. maybe i missed something
@@sparkie5571 "routers" is too loose of a term, nothing is routing in these scenarios except the 1 single router running opnsense. the video shows how to bypass the at&t box that is just having SPF input and bypass to ethernet.. installing openwrt onto a different device and doing the exact same thing (spf input and bypass to ethernet)
not even sure what you're asking though, be more precise & clear
@@gg-gn3re well ya that makes “sense” for you but I’m on the rapture WiFi 7 router threw ASUS for the qos features this is beneficial to me
I wondered the same thing lol. My friend ran a single SFP module directly to the wall and used a Ubiquity switch and plugged the SFP module right in an Boom picked up ATT DCHP IP.
I love how people don’t understand AT&t may claim 1 gig, but that single 1 gig fiber is usually running into a splitter = shared
This is XGS-PON
@@digiblurDIY fantastic video and resource/information -- my transceiver from ECI arrives here in about 12 hours and I'll be using your video and the guide. Hoping I can program the unit via my Asus RT-BE88U (it has spf+ port) was seeing the same issues as you, downloads mostly fine, but uploads always seemingly artificially limited to that 200-300mbit range. You are right too on their shipping. Ordered on a friday, and it will be on my doorstep today (Wednesday) TX here.
Hey man, just wondering, have you tested using the Juplink directly as a transceiver instead of as a rig to program the SFP module? My ISP uses a quite massive ONT+T1 Terminal+AP combo just like AT&T's (and there are other tutorials involving xPON SFP modules to get it working around), but my main router is an UniFi Cloud Gateway Ultra which doesn't have SFP. If the Juplink can be used to completely bypass my ISP's ONT, it will be amazing.
At least their ONT doesn't cripple my network speeds on bridge mode. Oh well.
What are the chances of a cheaper alternative to the was-110 coming along? I'd love to do this, but I'm not actually having any issues with passthrough mode so the cost/benefit isn't adding up for me.
Thanks for putting this on my radar though!
We had the WAG-D20 but didn't work out right with upload speeds. I haven't seen anything cheaper being talked about as it needs the ability to change the serial and such.
I'm astounded that you are getting 1.2 Gbs, I have the 1G plan and the HA Speedtest integration tells me that I am getting 675-900 Mbs Up and 47-675Mbs Down.
Yeah that's some of the issues I had with the previous bypass method and the AT&T gateway at times. I can get 1.2/1.2 all day long now on the 1G plan. And the key there is, the speeds work to even sites off the beaten path, not just to nearby AT&T sites.
One thing i thought about (since i cant use this because no 2gbs so cant switch frequencies) is the $200 adapter may pay for itself in 3-5 years in power savings if the BGW320 is drawing a constant 30-40 watts 24/7.
Saves you all the headache as well I see in the ATTFiber subreddit of latency/packet loss issues and middle of the night factory resets.
How do you get 30-40 watts? Did you use a kill-a-watt meter to actually measure? I external ont set up with a 320. The bgw consumed ~10-15 watts. Ont ~3-4 (nokia G-010G-A). I can't imagine the box drawing that much.
@@geepeezee5030 Idle with 1 port used i can get it down to 13.5 watts. Beating on it with 4 things plugged in and two on wifi and doing 500mbs, i can easily get it to 25 watts. And its rated max sustained power usage is 40 watts.
Good point that’s interesting
The best part of ATT fiber is that fiber outage is not a reportable option. Had area-wide outage twice in two months, but can’t report it to someone.
Have AT&T Fiber. Have had no issues with their gateway. This seems to be inviting more headaches than it’s worth.
Count yourself lucky... Luckily I skipped the bad firmware updates with this.
When ordering what do you recommend for "OEM compatibility"?
I just put Intel myself since I had Intel SFP NICs but I'm not really sure it matters.
I'm curious why do you have that SFP+ to 2.5GbE adapter? I was trying to figure out why you would use that instead of putting the WAS-110 directly into the SFP+ port on your OPNsense router, but then I watched another one of your videos and saw that's exactly what you did.
I was using that adapter to flash the community firmware and set the device up as it ignores RX loss. You can use other SFP adapters/switches
ONTs on-a-stick are pretty great.
Can we get a tutorial on Fios? Would love to tinker with this thing. Thank you!
What ONT do they use?
Don't think I've ever heard the word "awesome" followed up by AT&T before 😂
Let me introduce you to Cox Cable and you will see the issue.
Oh Slidell, I used to live there!
My question is, why can’t we use the Nokia SFP+ XGSPon module that comes with the unit/ AT&T?
I asked the same question way back... it is missing the ONT piece and is only a media converter.
Thanks for the information appreciate all your effort
My pleasure!
Thanks, been looking for this
This is really helpful and I didn’t mind your discussion, too often in our field as IT techs, we want TLDR for everything. Not good on camera.
Thanks! 2x speed and fast forward makes it for the TikTok fans.
Just found you, and you look like your a UniFi guy, does the 8311 discord have write-up on doing this with a DreamMachine Pro Max?
I have Unifi switches and APs but never been a fan of their routers. The write up is the same. Just plug in the SFP+ module and done.
@@digiblurDIY That's what I suspected, buts always good to see/hear from someone who has done it first before you drop the money yourself.
I think the only thing I heard was some weirdness on the static IP blocks due to some limitations with the UDM line of routers. But there is a Ubiquiti channel on the 8311 discord with several peeps in there that have done it.
Perhaps I missed it, but did you mention static ip addresses? Maybe it doesn't matter with or without the HG
I didn't have any static IP blocks to test this with but I know others use the bypass and statics without any issue.
Is the Juplink adapter sold out? I'm not sure what the link you have in the info is showing. It shows me the transceiver is not available but the pon stick is. Does it come with the converter board?
Same issue I'm having. Is there an alternative to the juplink Mini 2.5g Fiber Optic Transceiver? Or alternate place to purchase?
Use the switch I linked
Man I would love to do this for the heat / power / space savings in my little structured cable cabinet where my fibre comes in.. I already run OPNSense on a tiny R86S this seems like a great option however the cost is currently too high.
Yeah it is pricey but kinda nuts they piled all that into one SFP module.
@@digiblurDIY I have 1Gbit service currently and a nokia ONT box that lets me get full speed already and is reliable.. If I move up to my ISPs 3Gbit plan I have to use their ALL IN one router that is bigger and has 10Gbe ethernet as an output.. I would MUCH rather put in this fibre device than put an ethernet 10GBe SFP+ module in my box.
I don't need this, I have my full speeds with my router managing bufferbloat well. My latency before and after was always in the single digits but I see 2 potential benefits; increased privacy as they don't have a controllable device in your home, and with my router being a low powered device, I can live off my solar or a generator easy when there are power outages that do not deplete the other end.
What vendor compatibility do you recommend specifying when purchasing the XGS-PON through E.C.I Networks?
I told them Intel as that was my NIC I was using but it shouldn't matter much.
@@digiblurDIY I got mine setup today, your tutorial was a huge help, thank you.
That being said, I am not getting full download speeds. The download speed seems to be half and then over time it degrades to less than 100mbps. I am getting the full upload speed though. The suggestions in the troubleshooting guide hasn't lead to a solution. If/when I find a solution I'll post it. If you've experienced this any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I've tried the following thus far:
-The optical power is within spec.
-Change the link speeds manually.
I only dream of some type of 'Fiber' connection. So I clicked on this purely out of curiosity.
I know that feeling all too well. Looked at a fiber distribution box going to some houses across the road for years yet I couldn't get it.
partially wishing AT&T would route the fiber to our house so I can ditch Comcast/Xfinity (been in too many arguments with their contractors and level I&II techs - have met some really cool ones but the majority just go through the motions w/out base knowledge/troubleshooting skills). Hopefully with all the new homes and construction going on it will be routed to the homes near the lake. Was rooting for Google, but they dropped/slowed the project outside of Metro area.
Sometimes they seem to throw darts at a map for areas they do. I've seen them skip some easier above ground neighborhoods yet they retro fit the underground one across the highway. I would have thought they would have snagged the neighborhood north of me where they only offer landline, no DSL. I bet there are many neighbors chomping at the bit to switch off the monopoly cable ISP there.
I got the buy link fixed with the vendor for y'all. They're in stock!
Oh noice! I didn't know they messed things up for a bit. Many thanks!
How “legal” is this? Can ATT detect this and shut off your connection for not using their gateway box?
Yes they can detect but people have been bypassing for years.
Legality, are you stealing service? Nope. They control the speeds and if your "port" is turned up.
This is amazing. Would this be able to replace a Huawei ONT?
What model?
Huawei HG8245W5-6T or HG8245H seem to be the models Claro in Argentina use.
Thank you for this!
They upgraded my ONT without having to do any upgrades. They are trying to get rid of the old stuff.
Like without touching a thing? I wonder if they wanted to pull the old GPON
Endpoint Hardware? You mean your key to the walled garden!?
Probably the key being you paid your bill and didn't shut your "port" off.
This is good stuff thank you!
Do you know if this can be done in similar way in other countries and providers with very similar technology on the ISP?
I would imagine so if they are using XGS-PON on the same wavelengths.
Comment.....I'm just going to have to hire this guy to come to my house and do all of this because I swear he is speaking Chines.....
Yes. Google translate in my pocket, send the ticket!
Looks like you got the same Moginsok box I have. Is that the one with the i5 1240P? I love that thing with OPN sense.
This is the N100 box. I just run Opnsense bare metal on it and it runs great.
Unrelated question, where did you get that fan for your rack for your router?
I use a similar router and it gets pretty hot (probably due to me having it in my garage, sometimes life works out that way). I have my ceiling fans constantly running but I am sure this would be way more effective.
I appreciate the help, thanks!
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@@digiblurDIY Yes, thanks so much!
I’m a tech I would be interested lol I would ask you to put it back tho so I can close the job out
Yep. I did this when the burial guys kept cutting my line trying to shove it in the ground an inch. It already popped out in one place and I need to call again but dreading dealing with the burial dept. Those guys definitely screw over the techs in my area.
I would put the gatewaybafk and wait an hour or so after they left before swapping back.
What happens after the tech leaves is the business of the subscriber. lol. If you're savvy enough to perform this work then I'm sure the subscriber can do you a solid.
Does this work for ATT subscribers who have a block of IP addresses?
Yes. 8311 discord has helped out a few people with this setup and their router setups
So it looks like we’re spoofing the MAC address of the AT&T modem. Cool!
You don't have to, but spoofing the gateway's MAC means you can use the existing DHCP lease, so you don't have to wait for it to expire to get a new one (hence the possible 20 minute wait)
Ooooh yeeehhh!
Bypass it!
Reading that in Macho Man voice...
Hello, Great video! my question is more relate to the N100 opnsense router. I have just ordered the WAS-110, and it will be coming pre-flashed with the community. my question is are you able to enter the WAS-110 through the topton router/opnsense? i'm in 8311 discord and they stated that a lot of people have issue with was-110 with sfp+ cage (basically the n100 opnsense router with sfp+ in it). i don't want to buy the router then only to come to point where i cannot access the was-110 UI via through topton/opnsense. let me know!
Yes, I was able to get it working with the virtual IP to get to the GUI and just plugged it in. No issues.
fyi, the white gateway, actually has the ONT built in.
Yup. All in one box now.
Just to clarify, this is only for speeds 2.5 or higher not 1 gbps???
No speed requirements. Service requirement only. You can be on the 300 mbit plan and be on XGS-PON
shrug, I just put my pfsense in the passthru mode and assigned the MAC. I'm getting 950+ down 950+ up so i consider it "good enough" for me needs. Not a fan of the extra box but it does double duty for "DMZ" and "Guest" wifi that doesn't need to be on internal network.
its an IOT host :) thats where i keep by googlevoice voip box, and any laptop "im repairing"
Lucky. I had issues with the gateway resetting during firmware upgrades, I had this happen to a family member as well, seems to be a common issue. I also had the issue with uploads on the gateway for some reason. It wasn't there until more people started getting it in the neighborhood oddly enough. I thought it was just being oversold a bit too much but then I see that isn't the case.
2.3Gbit up and down and bro has "connection issues" I remember paying for T1s back in the 90s, $1300 a month per 1.5Mbit. We had 3 at our dialup provider and a squid server pulling data down over satellite for caching.
Yep. Connection issues when you pay for 2 gig but only get 200 up that can be an issue.
Excellent!
So I should be able to plug the WAS-110 SFP+ directly into the X520-da2 that's in my PFSense box, right?
I used the SFP+ ports on mine.
Will this work with a unifi gateway+?
Yes. If you don't have SFP you will need a media converter
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it