When my cherry shrimp tank was having tons of random deaths, I put 3 ml of H202 into the tank and haven't had a death since. In another tank, all my shrimp were badly stressed all of a sudden and some were dropping dead. Still don't know what it was, but dosed heavy prime, H202, and did a 30% water change and the next day it was like nothing happened. Hydrogen peroxide should be part of any emergency treatment plan if something is going wrong in shrimp tanks and not many people talk about the importance of it.
Great channel love your info and presentation and the fact you reply to comments I’m surprised you haven’t a big following I’m sure you will in the near future I’m subscribing and sharing with my aquatic fans thank you just the info i needed
First video of yours I have seen. Liked and subscribed. Made me laugh a few times right off the top. Good straight forward easy to understand info. Thanks for the video 👍👍
Hey great video. Just one point of clarification. Ellobiopsidae/green fungus is not really a thing in fresh water shrimp tanks. Its been a mis-identifcation for Cladogonium (A type of alage) which aquarium salt and yep, peroxide do treat! You just have to treat both the infected shrimp, tank and healthy shrimp at the same time due to it being colorless until a mature infection occurs.
The dosing for H202 is so all over the map on the internet, ive seen it go as far as 1-2ML PER GALLON, which I thought was pretty crazy, but some people have used that dose for years with no problem, and then I also see others that are more along your recommendations. I'll start off with more of a conservative dose. my algae issue is more in the water column then anything else. no plants and hardy fish so im not to worried about the fish being effected, ive already completely removed any and all aquascape trying to hunt down what is causing the algae. its been a constant struggle and its crazy, bc my tank is wayyyyyy over filtrated and barley any stock a few small tetras in a 65 , feeding every other day not too much, light schedule is 4 hrs a day. been in the hobby for 25 yrs and this lil tank I set up for my kid has been a nightmare lol.
I can say that peroxide along with salt dips is working to treat the "green fungus" Cladogonium Ogishimae, not sure if it works on Ellobiopsidae but Ellobiopsidae isn't known to turn green like Cladogonium Ogishimae either.
That's great to hear! It's usually a death sentence for the shrimps so it's great to see people figuring out how to get rid of it and save their colonies!
Thanks for awesome content provided in ur knowledgeable, quirky / offbeat way. Nice to see some life provided in ur content. Cheers from Australia. I just found u by accident this morning whilst looking for some original content. Stoked. I look forward to what’s next. If tyheres anything I can help provide from my down under locale regarding native Australian plants slowly being recognized as wanted aquatic plants / native fish etc…..
You're a life saver. I have black beard algae in the first tank I ever started. Its been two months since I started cycling. It is NOT planted. No substrate either. (Its a baby Axolotl, that's why) Ive been pulling at my hair for weeks wondering what it was. At first, I thought it was bacteria bloom.. now I'm realizing its black algae, or both. Every one on RUclips provides information on a PLANTED tanks with peroxide. So they're telling me to spray the parts that are covered in algae in a water change. Well, mine is growing on the bottom of the tank. Its nice to know I can dose peroxide DIRECTLY to my tank. Thanks. I'm also well aware of the dangers of axolotls and peroxide. I have two tanks, and my bigger one is empty. Ill let it settle there first before using the water. Thanks again. :)
Happy I could help in some way! I've never kept those little guys so I can't personally attest to how sensitive they are to peroxide. It does break down into oxygen and water within an hour and attacks the smallest things first, like bad bacteria and algae. Hopefully this will clear up your issue but you should search for the cause of the BBA. IIRC it's usually a mix of too much light and too much phosphorus. It will come back if you don't fix the root cause. Snails also really help with algae, not sure what ones you can have with an axolotl but a large nerite or mystery snail should destroy that algae for you.
Super interesting and helpful, thank you!! So is this treatment safe for fish AND shrimp or just shrimp? Im always nervous trying something with a chemical in my established tank. Sometimes a change from the normal ,stable routine can cause more problems but this seems like a super helpful tip (especially for moss algae). Just wanted to double check that its safe for everyone
Hi bob how often do i need to dose i have a lot of hair algae in my 10 gallon. Should i dose 3ml per day? Also should i do a 25% water change twice a week? Thank you so much for your videos
You can dose daily with no issues. 3mL should be fine at 3% concentration. Water changes are really up to you but if you have shrimp, that is definitely too much lol.
Bob Moss, the name alone made me smile as my manager is Moss too, I loved how you present your stuff and talk with your hands, eyes, shoulders... you dance as you talk :-) Entertaining as well as informative, keep it going my man!!! I grew up using H202 to disinfect wounds, so I am stunned at this new info, and it makes sense to me as well... I'm definitely going to try it out? 1ml per gallon - got it! But what strength? the one I have at home is 12%... do I use 1ml of that? Less? more? please care to elaborate on this? Pretty please :-)
Omg I forgot about the strength! 3% so if you have 12% quarter the dose! Wow I can't believe I messed that up! That's so important. Also, where did you get 12% DAMN That's strong lol. And thank you for the kind words!
@@BobMossNanoTanks it's actually pretty easy to get. we have a 5l canister at home, mostly used to get rid of blood stains (thanks, female biology). probably won't use that one for fish tanks though, I don't think it's that level of quality and I don't know about additives.
@@BobMossNanoTanks hair developer at 40 volume is 12% peroxide. I’ll have to read what else is in the bottle to make sure it could go in a tank. Cool delivery of what can be boring! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I started with 4 amanos and 3 blue dream shrimp in my tank. For some reason all my amanos have died, but my blue dreams are fine. I just tried dosing with some peroxide. Hope that keeps them alive.
@@BobMossNanoTanks for the cyano I dosed your 3ml recommendation every day for 5 days. That seemed to do the trick. I dosed it at night with lights out.
Is it safe for snails? Think I have a rust disease problem starting.. was going to just do this asap after finding your video but I have nerite snails. Will they be okay with the h2o2 dosing?..
Thanks for the very informative video. I have a 3.5 gallon planted aqaurium with a 2" deep substrate that I'm getting ready to add shrimp to. If I did a small enough dose could I get some of the benefits of hydrogen peroxide without it wiping put all the beneficial bacteria? Or is this something that's better to use if you have a filter as a backup to replenish your beneficial bacteria?
Question... I went to clean my decor, lifted the ornament and my sand was black? Freaked me out!! Im guessing its black algae?? I will try this method! Thank you!!
May I ask a question? Why are your dose rates so low? 1mm per 10 gallons? All the dose rates I have seen have sat around 1.5-2ml per gallon..... Why do you have your so low? The rates I stated are using 3% peroxide. Please advice I'm genuinely interested if I have been overdosing my tanks. All my fish seem fine!
Did you know that hydrogen peroxide sold in pharmacies is filled with formaldeides which serve as conservation agents and which are highly carcinogenic? You don't have to worry if your aquarium is well planted because the plants will feed on this poison, but if your aquarium is not planted with plants (or lacks them) it's your fish that will accumulate in their flesh. Fortunately there is a (slightly more expensive) version of food grade peroxide. You should talk about it.
I have a 110 gallon fish tank. My problem I have is, I have a lot big decorations and a lot of rocks. I can not take them out of the tank and soak them in water and bleach. I just have surface algae on decorations. How much peroxide should I use.
@@BobMossNanoTanks I have one more question. Can you add peroxide, every time, you do a water change. I do a water change every 3 weeks. What will it do to my aquarium
Hi Bob I need your help with my African Clawed Frogs in a 10 gallon tank. I just have two frogs in there. I finding white fuzzy mold in the tank especially on the decor and the water is cloudy. I did a big water change about 4 days ago and then cleaned the decor with the white mold on it but now it is back again. I also used Prime and a algae remover too. What am I doing wrong :( . Can I use the H2O2 to help with problem as well? Thank you Kim
H2O2 might help but from what I've seen, that fungus is relatively harmless and will go away on it's own. I'm not 100% sure what causes it but it happens a lot on driftwood. As for the cloudy water, it's a bacterial bloom. You're best to leave it and let the tank process the bacteria over time. Just keep an eye on ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels so the frogs don't get hurt but overall, cloudy water is just unsightly, not dangerous.
If it looked kinda like jelly, it was probably bacterial colonies and not mold, mold is pretty rare and requires pretty nasty conditions to even form. Bacteria can form carpets over everything. Be mindful of feeding amounts and water parameters. Bacteria should strike a balance within 3 - 4 weeks after the bloom if the conditions are right.
I followed to the letter the instructions in this video, and a day & a half later, both my nerite snails, and many MTG’s, were dead. All of them! I will never again treat my tanks with peroxide, unless I first remove all inhabitants (not possible with MTG’s though) I had no other animals in the tank yet. Now it’s empty. 😔💔😡
What concentration did you use and how much? I give a range of dosing levels that I have used with absolutely no issue for years, so I'm very curious how this happened.
@@BobMossNanoTanks not original OP you replied to, but the problem I bet because you actually never said about concentration to use (3%, 6%, etc). You only said how much "ml per gallon" to use. That's not concentration. I bet that person above use 10% or even higher concentration. It's kinda your fault not to inform them correctly.
@@farmasinema sounds like a new tank that they nuked with H2o2 and killed all good bacteria. 1.5 days later makes no sense. Maybe they never turned their filter back on. Blaming him is dumb. His dosages are wayyyyyy lower than what everyone else says. That assuming the story is even true.
So if I'm treating specifically for algae and dosing 3ml, how often do I dose? Is this one and done, or should I be using regularly until the algae is under control?
I have aquaponic so have water from tank go to a clay ball filter with edible plants before going back to fish tank. Would H2o2 still be okay to do to treat the algae in the tank?
Hey there. I'm in the middle of an i don't know what's wrong in my 64 gallon heavy planted tank lost 3 of 4 platy, all 4 phantom tetra, 1 female betta. 2 Rams, rest of female betta not showing aggression or illnesses, 2 molly, 15 harlequins and 10 cherry barbs all doing great. But fish loss over the 3 days. Ammonia 0, nitrites 0 nitrates 10ish, weekly water change How much ml would you dose in a aquarium like that
64 gallons, you can safely dose 24mL of 3% H2O2 right into the tank. Hopefully that helps, from the information given I have no idea what would have caused the losses.
Hi, Great video. I have 2 questions. 1. I'm having green/white cloudy water. tried blackout for 3 days. It cleared out but then came back after a few days. So, will using h2o2 solve the problem? 2. I didn't find the 3% in any of the pharmacies. So, got the 6%. how much 6% should I use per gallon of water? Thanks
H2o2 will help but there seems to be a root cause creating the problem, it's better practice to find that and fix it than start using chemicals tbh. For 6% just half the dose I recommend
Thanks for the reply. Used half the dose of 3% for a few days. But the biofilm on the surface and the cloudy water keep coming back. Nothing seems to work. Now I'm really getting hopeless :( @@BobMossNanoTanks
@@rummanmahbubsunny6221 cloudy water is usually a bacterial bloom. The solution to this is, unfortunately, just time. Let your filter catch up to the bioload and it should clear itself in a couple of weeks.
If you're having serious issues, you could dose daily. It breaks down into water and oxygen within an hour iirc so there's no risk of build-up or anything like that.
Well one thing with that size of tank, it's going to be extremely difficult to overdose the h2o2 lol! It breaks down to just oxygen and water in like an hour or so, almost nothing to worry about tbh.
@@martinmercerjr8615nope! nothing to worry about. it attacks the smallest things first. if you greatly overdose, it could, but at my recommended dosages all will be fine.
My tank is a 275 gallon tote that I keep my catfish bait in. The water is starting to get green (algae growth). Any idea on what to do to treat this?? H2O2?? and how much??
Does adding H2O2 Kill cyanobacteria (blue green algae) ? I have a really big 130gal aquarium and i have a cyanobacteria outbreak! will it help out with destroying all of it?
In the same boat with a 125 gallon planted tank. Im about to send it with 3ml per 10 gallons. Got cyano that ive been battling, some moderate algae also.
According to my math, a lowball estimate puts that at 383 gallons. 35% peroxide is about 12x stronger than what i use in my nano tanks, so rather than using 4mL per 10 gallons lets use 40mL per 100 gallons. At the 35% concentration you can safely use up to 3.3mL per 100 gallons of water. At 383 gallons, you're going to only use 12.76mL of that peroxide for the entire pond, if I did all my math correctly.
My shrimp colony has decreased by half. It's so sad. They end up lathargic with white tails each time. I can't pinpoint what it is because the parameters seem correct from comparison to the charts I have seen. My main question is will the bacteria harm the blackworm colony within that same tank?
Sounds a bit like necrosis to me. I don't think it will effect the black worms but it's not ideal for the shrimps. I actually have it in one of my tanks right now and the colony has completely died off :(
@@BobMossNanoTanks Thats what I was thinking too. Is there any cause for it, that you know of? Thank you bunches for responding. I was so upset thinking I was hurting them somehow.
People have said peroxide can help with the necrosis but it did nothing for me. The best bet is to remove the effected shrimp as soon as you notice them or move all the healthy shrimp ASAP so they don't catch the bad bacteria@@shelbytaylor4634
@@BobMossNanoTanks Unfortunately, I think they all have it. Started with 16, and I am down to 3. Never even got to see them have babies. I believe... It may have been from the breeders tanks. Does this bacteria live on them? Or in them? & Would you say peroxide doses might make the tank safe for future shrimp? Or is it a tear down the tank situation? 😅
@@shelbytaylor4634 tbh I don't know that much about it, I don't think many people do. From what I've seen most people teardown and restart, I'm currently testing with some cull neocaridina to see if I can save the set up
12% Peroxide is used in the US by our agriculture, along with 30% vinegar. It is approved as a nontoxic item for food safety and medical safety. Thats why we can get it everywhere without a prescription. peroxide is h2 o2. 2 hydrogen and 2 oxygen. It breaks down into h2o (water) and an extra oxygen molecule. If your parameters are off it will not turn into water n2h2 if you have ammonia. This is toxic. If you have nitrite, it will create peroxynitrite (onoo-) and if you have an acidic water can cause weakened immune systems and disease. If you have nitrates, it would he fine unless it interacts due to ph being off, or heavy metals. Those of you saying it killed your fish, i would ask what your parameters were? Its not a lazy method to clean a tank. He doesnt have a problem because he uses such a low dose aimed at his problem areas.
I keep a good stock of it handy for all sorts of things so what about snail eggs on aquatic plant's is it good at killing them? that's what I'm wondering about. I seen where I could do a bleach dip on them but B-4 I do that I'd like to find some other options.
@@BobMossNanoTanks What about using white vinegar ? I can't find anything other than buying more of something else snails fish ext, I did some research & the ONLY thing I found was a bleach dip (dip for 5 mins-rinse sit for 10 mins) & that's what I did As for the snail eggs after that, I didn't see any.
@@raisinggoldfishonabudget7058 you'd have to let them soak in vinegar for awhile, I would imagine, to kill the eggs. it would probably damage the plant first tbh. bleach dip is a solid option.
I built a new vase tank last week(for shrimp later), threw in some tissue culture plants and a big bit of tweety wood.. day later it was completely white - I guess fungus from the wood? It's calmed down but still bit cloudy, would Hydrogen peroxide help kill that? Also, will it hurt marimo moss balls?
Tbh in a new set up you don't wanna mess with it too much. It is fungus that grew but it should kind of take care of itself in a few weeks, if not feel free to spot treat.
@@BobMossNanoTanks cool. and the moss balls? I have them in another tank. Also it's your fault I now have 4 tanks with shrimp everywhere (I'm from the ol edef gang).
Hair algae, yes. Cyanobacteria, I'm not sure. It should work, in theory, IIRC cyanobacteria flourishes with a lack of oxygen and this adds oxygen to the water.
Someone told me it will kill my plants I was to fix bba isue in tank its all over rock and plants but idk what would be right amount of dose for 45 gallon tank i do have h2o2 6%
@@erikg7305 sorry there was a typo i didn't understand initially. it shouldn't if you stick to the dosing I spoke of in here. Use 3% peroxide by the way, forgot the mention that.
Okay now you are telling me to turn off everything for one hour? Filter and air stones? Will the hydrogen peroxide harm my guppy and Molly fry? And would it hurt my Siamese algae eaters? I have a 55gallon tank so how much do you recommend to deal with white fungus looking stuff? Not sure if it’s algae or what it just appeared overnight. It spreads out on the glass like a coral design and wiping it off is slimy. I keep a clean tank and always maintaining it. So I have no idea how this happened. After 12 years of not having any issues bang this suddenly happened 🤷🏼♀️
H2O2 breaks down faster under light so it's just a tip to help it reach your entire tank and it shouldn't harm anything at such low doses. Not sure what fungus stuff you're talking about without seeing a picture. Did you add something new to the tank recently? The h2o2 should help kill any bad bacteria and may help slow the spread but it's hard to say for sure without knowing more.
@@BobMossNanoTanks no I've added nothing new, that's what I mean I have nothing to even do a process of elimination which I feel would be a way of accessing what might had occurred. I'm wondering if perhaps I just need to replace the filter media in the canister? I do a weekly tank clean, not a complete just about a 20-30% which I've always done since day dot. for 12 years. And never had any algae issues, I can't even say this is algae as its more like a mould if I were to describe it. I have a fantastic substrate consisting of Aquasoil, Fluval Stratum and then on top Aragonite and Bali sands. These I've always found have been a godsend with the Mystery Snails shell quality and also maintaining pH levels etc. I have checked for dead fish and I've none, and no dead anything in the tank, not even plants. Apart from this slimy, white/grey mould stuff that I've just noticed even has appeared on some of the substrate and plants everything is thriving. When it grows on the glass it spreads out like a coral drawing if that gives you an idea of appearance. Very odd. And I can't find anything online about it.
Am I correctly reading 3% hydrogen peroxide (HP) on the bottle? So you're using 3% per 10 gallons, from a solution that's already only 3% HP? Not criticising, just making sure I've got that correct. I don't want to use a 3% of a stronger solution.
I use 3% h2o2. I forgot to mention it in the video, I apologize. It MIGHT kill some of it, it looks to be a bit more sensitive of a plant? I don't have experience with it myself but most plants bounce back with no issue once you stop using it.
Honestly I was ready to break down my tank and just start from scratch. Then I found your video, thank you
When my cherry shrimp tank was having tons of random deaths, I put 3 ml of H202 into the tank and haven't had a death since. In another tank, all my shrimp were badly stressed all of a sudden and some were dropping dead. Still don't know what it was, but dosed heavy prime, H202, and did a 30% water change and the next day it was like nothing happened.
Hydrogen peroxide should be part of any emergency treatment plan if something is going wrong in shrimp tanks and not many people talk about the importance of it.
should i just make this the focus of my channel? i'll be the h2o2 guy lol
@@BobMossNanoTanks There's a gap in the market. Gotta fill it.
Thanks!
O wow! Thank YOU!!
Great channel love your info and presentation and the fact you reply to comments I’m surprised you haven’t a big following I’m sure you will in the near future I’m subscribing and sharing with my aquatic fans thank you just the info i needed
Thanks so much! It is what it is, I suppose. Gotta just keep putting out content and hoping for the best!
very informative. i wasn't aware this was an aquatic trick vs algae
thanks for watching! It's my favourite additive if I'm ever having issues in the tank!
Same! Thank you Bob Moss❤
First video of yours I have seen. Liked and subscribed. Made me laugh a few times right off the top. Good straight forward easy to understand info. Thanks for the video 👍👍
Hey great video. Just one point of clarification. Ellobiopsidae/green fungus is not really a thing in fresh water shrimp tanks. Its been a mis-identifcation for Cladogonium (A type of alage) which aquarium salt and yep, peroxide do treat! You just have to treat both the infected shrimp, tank and healthy shrimp at the same time due to it being colorless until a mature infection occurs.
Interesting. I'll have to look this up again. I've never had it so just going off what I've read and seen here on RUclips
The dosing for H202 is so all over the map on the internet, ive seen it go as far as 1-2ML PER GALLON, which I thought was pretty crazy, but some people have used that dose for years with no problem, and then I also see others that are more along your recommendations. I'll start off with more of a conservative dose. my algae issue is more in the water column then anything else. no plants and hardy fish so im not to worried about the fish being effected, ive already completely removed any and all aquascape trying to hunt down what is causing the algae. its been a constant struggle and its crazy, bc my tank is wayyyyyy over filtrated and barley any stock a few small tetras in a 65 , feeding every other day not too much, light schedule is 4 hrs a day. been in the hobby for 25 yrs and this lil tank I set up for my kid has been a nightmare lol.
I can say that peroxide along with salt dips is working to treat the "green fungus" Cladogonium Ogishimae, not sure if it works on Ellobiopsidae but Ellobiopsidae isn't known to turn green like Cladogonium Ogishimae either.
That's great to hear! It's usually a death sentence for the shrimps so it's great to see people figuring out how to get rid of it and save their colonies!
Thanks for awesome content provided in ur knowledgeable, quirky / offbeat way. Nice to see some life provided in ur content. Cheers from Australia. I just found u by accident this morning whilst looking for some original content. Stoked. I look forward to what’s next. If tyheres anything I can help provide from my down under locale regarding native Australian plants slowly being recognized as wanted aquatic plants / native fish etc…..
Thank you for the kind words! Means a lot! Be sure to checkout my backlog to see the evolution of Bob Moss lol.
Thank you for this info. Will this work for spotted algae on Anubias plants?
It should! Just spot treat with a pipette and you should see it start to turn white,
You're a life saver. I have black beard algae in the first tank I ever started. Its been two months since I started cycling. It is NOT planted. No substrate either. (Its a baby Axolotl, that's why)
Ive been pulling at my hair for weeks wondering what it was. At first, I thought it was bacteria bloom.. now I'm realizing its black algae, or both. Every one on RUclips provides information on a PLANTED tanks with peroxide. So they're telling me to spray the parts that are covered in algae in a water change. Well, mine is growing on the bottom of the tank. Its nice to know I can dose peroxide DIRECTLY to my tank. Thanks.
I'm also well aware of the dangers of axolotls and peroxide. I have two tanks, and my bigger one is empty. Ill let it settle there first before using the water. Thanks again. :)
Happy I could help in some way! I've never kept those little guys so I can't personally attest to how sensitive they are to peroxide. It does break down into oxygen and water within an hour and attacks the smallest things first, like bad bacteria and algae.
Hopefully this will clear up your issue but you should search for the cause of the BBA. IIRC it's usually a mix of too much light and too much phosphorus. It will come back if you don't fix the root cause.
Snails also really help with algae, not sure what ones you can have with an axolotl but a large nerite or mystery snail should destroy that algae for you.
Super interesting and helpful, thank you!! So is this treatment safe for fish AND shrimp or just shrimp? Im always nervous trying something with a chemical in my established tank. Sometimes a change from the normal ,stable routine can cause more problems but this seems like a super helpful tip (especially for moss algae). Just wanted to double check that its safe for everyone
As long you don't overdose it won't harm a thing, except the algae that is
Great information CryptKeeper recommended your channel so I've joined 👍
Thanks so much! Happy to have ya!
Great work as always, thank you!
Thanks so much! Really proud of this batch of videos :)
Another fun video jam packed with info! Thanks Bob!
Thank you! Enjoyed editing this one a lot lol
Can we use it in Salt water
Hi bob how often do i need to dose i have a lot of hair algae in my 10 gallon. Should i dose 3ml per day? Also should i do a 25% water change twice a week? Thank you so much for your videos
You can dose daily with no issues. 3mL should be fine at 3% concentration. Water changes are really up to you but if you have shrimp, that is definitely too much lol.
Bob Moss, the name alone made me smile as my manager is Moss too, I loved how you present your stuff and talk with your hands, eyes, shoulders... you dance as you talk :-) Entertaining as well as informative, keep it going my man!!!
I grew up using H202 to disinfect wounds, so I am stunned at this new info, and it makes sense to me as well... I'm definitely going to try it out?
1ml per gallon - got it!
But what strength? the one I have at home is 12%... do I use 1ml of that? Less? more? please care to elaborate on this?
Pretty please :-)
Omg I forgot about the strength! 3% so if you have 12% quarter the dose! Wow I can't believe I messed that up! That's so important. Also, where did you get 12% DAMN That's strong lol.
And thank you for the kind words!
@@BobMossNanoTanks it's actually pretty easy to get. we have a 5l canister at home, mostly used to get rid of blood stains (thanks, female biology). probably won't use that one for fish tanks though, I don't think it's that level of quality and I don't know about additives.
@@BobMossNanoTanks hair developer at 40 volume is 12% peroxide. I’ll have to read what else is in the bottle to make sure it could go in a tank. Cool delivery of what can be boring! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@kim99may whoa that seems like such a high concentration to me lol
@@BobMossNanoTanks no kidding and it gets on our skin for a long time.
I started with 4 amanos and 3 blue dream shrimp in my tank. For some reason all my amanos have died, but my blue dreams are fine. I just tried dosing with some peroxide. Hope that keeps them alive.
I am diving deep into the tech planted tanks. Thanks for the info bro!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it. I keep things pretty low tech over here so I may not have much more to offer for that.
How much for a 50 gallon community tank I have one mystery snail will that kill the snail
Thanks for the content, will order once it warms up again.
Glad you enjoyed it! Check your local drug store, it might be super cheap!
Hey, love the video. Just to ask, i'm from South Africa, can I just use any product?
i use 3% h2o2. if you use higher percentages, just dilute with water.
How do plants do after a blackout treatment?
Hey Bob when you dose this 3ml a day does it not kill the moss like fissidens ect
No, it shouldn't kill any plants (besides algae) unless you're dosing too high.
Awesome advice, got rid of some green cyano bac and some black beard algae!
Happy to help! That's awesome, I wasn't sure what it would do to cyanobacteria, so that's good to know!
@@BobMossNanoTanks for the cyano I dosed your 3ml recommendation every day for 5 days. That seemed to do the trick. I dosed it at night with lights out.
@@bulbomads that's awesome! it's so unsightly, happy to hear you got rid of it.
What concentration h202 are you using? Where I live you can usually buy 3%or 6% h202.
3% hydrogen peroxide
As the other reply stated, I use 3%. If you get 6% just dilute it accordingly.
Is it safe for snails? Think I have a rust disease problem starting.. was going to just do this asap after finding your video but I have nerite snails. Will they be okay with the h2o2 dosing?..
Yup, I do it all the time with no issues.
Thank you so much!
whoa never seen green shrimp, great now i gotta get them
There are green neocaridina and caridina, but the lines aren't very stable. I still get blue and orange throws from my greens 3 years in.
Thanks for the very informative video. I have a 3.5 gallon planted aqaurium with a 2" deep substrate that I'm getting ready to add shrimp to. If I did a small enough dose could I get some of the benefits of hydrogen peroxide without it wiping put all the beneficial bacteria? Or is this something that's better to use if you have a filter as a backup to replenish your beneficial bacteria?
If the tank is just cycled there is probably no need but a very, very small dose shouldn't hurt anything.
Question... I went to clean my decor, lifted the ornament and my sand was black? Freaked me out!! Im guessing its black algae?? I will try this method! Thank you!!
It is not dangerous for moss? Thnx in advance for your answer and greetings from🇨🇿👍🥃
Not in the small doses I mention here, I use it all the time!
This is a stupid question, but why do my Cichlids have babies fry after I used peroxide H2O
May I ask a question? Why are your dose rates so low? 1mm per 10 gallons?
All the dose rates I have seen have sat around 1.5-2ml per gallon..... Why do you have your so low?
The rates I stated are using 3% peroxide.
Please advice I'm genuinely interested if I have been overdosing my tanks. All my fish seem fine!
Aquarium pond answers website says 2oz (60ml) of 3% directly to a 10 gallon tank.
Did you know that hydrogen peroxide sold in pharmacies is filled with formaldeides which serve as conservation agents and which are highly carcinogenic? You don't have to worry if your aquarium is well planted because the plants will feed on this poison, but if your aquarium is not planted with plants (or lacks them) it's your fish that will accumulate in their flesh.
Fortunately there is a (slightly more expensive) version of food grade peroxide.
You should talk about it.
I have a 110 gallon fish tank. My problem I have is, I have a lot big decorations and a lot of rocks. I can not take them out of the tank and soak them in water and bleach. I just have surface algae on decorations. How much peroxide should I use.
You can use anywhere from 11mL to 44 mL with no problems.
@@BobMossNanoTanks I have one more question. Can you add peroxide, every time, you do a water change. I do a water change every 3 weeks. What will it do to my aquarium
Would hydrogen peroxide be safe for a "natural" low-tech aquarium with lots of bacteria, fungi, and microfauna?
It might kill some of the smaller micro fauna tbh but the tank should be fine as a whole
Hi Bob I need your help with my African Clawed Frogs in a 10 gallon tank. I just have two frogs in there. I finding white fuzzy mold in the tank especially on the decor and the water is cloudy. I did a big water change about 4 days ago and then cleaned the decor with the white mold on it but now it is back again. I also used Prime and a algae remover too. What am I doing wrong :( . Can I use the H2O2 to help with problem as well? Thank you Kim
H2O2 might help but from what I've seen, that fungus is relatively harmless and will go away on it's own. I'm not 100% sure what causes it but it happens a lot on driftwood. As for the cloudy water, it's a bacterial bloom. You're best to leave it and let the tank process the bacteria over time. Just keep an eye on ammonia, nitrite and nitrate levels so the frogs don't get hurt but overall, cloudy water is just unsightly, not dangerous.
If it looked kinda like jelly, it was probably bacterial colonies and not mold, mold is pretty rare and requires pretty nasty conditions to even form. Bacteria can form carpets over everything.
Be mindful of feeding amounts and water parameters. Bacteria should strike a balance within 3 - 4 weeks after the bloom if the conditions are right.
I followed to the letter the instructions in this video, and a day & a half later, both my nerite snails, and many MTG’s, were dead. All of them! I will never again treat my tanks with peroxide, unless I first remove all inhabitants (not possible with MTG’s though) I had no other animals in the tank yet. Now it’s empty. 😔💔😡
What concentration did you use and how much? I give a range of dosing levels that I have used with absolutely no issue for years, so I'm very curious how this happened.
@@BobMossNanoTanks not original OP you replied to, but the problem I bet because you actually never said about concentration to use (3%, 6%, etc). You only said how much "ml per gallon" to use.
That's not concentration.
I bet that person above use 10% or even higher concentration.
It's kinda your fault not to inform them correctly.
@@farmasinema sounds like a new tank that they nuked with H2o2 and killed all good bacteria. 1.5 days later makes no sense. Maybe they never turned their filter back on. Blaming him is dumb. His dosages are wayyyyyy lower than what everyone else says. That assuming the story is even true.
So if I'm treating specifically for algae and dosing 3ml, how often do I dose? Is this one and done, or should I be using regularly until the algae is under control?
Regular use is ok, you can even do it every day tbh, it breaks down to water and oxygen in about an hour.
I have aquaponic so have water from tank go to a clay ball filter with edible plants before going back to fish tank. Would H2o2 still be okay to do to treat the algae in the tank?
Yup, just adds oxygen to the water in the long run.
Will this get rid or vorticella?
I just tried this trick thanks Bob
Happy to help!
Will it cure fungus on your fish
Nice. I have a lot of hair algae in a 55. Can I dose the whole tank at once. BTW there isn't any shrimp or fish in it. Thx
You bet! no livestock, you can go all out with the big dose (if you have that much!)
Great! Thank you for the speedy reply
@Bobmossnanotanks is all this done while the fishies are inside the tank?! Or do they need to be taken out?!
You can leave them in, the dose is low enough it won't harm them
@BobMossNanoTanks thank you!!! I appreciate you replying back.
Hey there. I'm in the middle of an i don't know what's wrong in my 64 gallon heavy planted tank lost 3 of 4 platy, all 4 phantom tetra, 1 female betta.
2 Rams, rest of female betta not showing aggression or illnesses, 2 molly, 15 harlequins and 10 cherry barbs all doing great. But fish loss over the 3 days. Ammonia 0, nitrites 0 nitrates 10ish, weekly water change
How much ml would you dose in a aquarium like that
64 gallons, you can safely dose 24mL of 3% H2O2 right into the tank. Hopefully that helps, from the information given I have no idea what would have caused the losses.
Hi,
Great video.
I have 2 questions.
1. I'm having green/white cloudy water. tried blackout for 3 days. It cleared out but then came back after a few days. So, will using h2o2 solve the problem?
2. I didn't find the 3% in any of the pharmacies. So, got the 6%. how much 6% should I use per gallon of water?
Thanks
H2o2 will help but there seems to be a root cause creating the problem, it's better practice to find that and fix it than start using chemicals tbh. For 6% just half the dose I recommend
Thanks for the reply. Used half the dose of 3% for a few days. But the biofilm on the surface and the cloudy water keep coming back. Nothing seems to work. Now I'm really getting hopeless :(
@@BobMossNanoTanks
@@rummanmahbubsunny6221 cloudy water is usually a bacterial bloom. The solution to this is, unfortunately, just time. Let your filter catch up to the bioload and it should clear itself in a couple of weeks.
I hope so. Thanks again!! ^_^
@@BobMossNanoTanks
@@rummanmahbubsunny6221 Also be super mindful about feeding amounts, fish need surprisingly little.
is there a limit on how many times a week i can dose? or like how often i can dose the H202?
If you're having serious issues, you could dose daily. It breaks down into water and oxygen within an hour iirc so there's no risk of build-up or anything like that.
@@BobMossNanoTanks thankss! enjoy your videos and the info you provide for us as well as huge kudos for replying to all our questions! :D
@@joshlee1665 happy to help! I hate when I don't get a reply from creators so I try really hard to answer all my comments!
I am not sure if I trust putting peroxide in my 110 gallon tank. The only problem I have is algae on my rocks and decorations
Well one thing with that size of tank, it's going to be extremely difficult to overdose the h2o2 lol! It breaks down to just oxygen and water in like an hour or so, almost nothing to worry about tbh.
Will it still take care my algae
@@BobMossNanoTanks Will peroxide hurt fish and snails. I have a couple of pond snails in my aquarium
@@martinmercerjr8615nope! nothing to worry about. it attacks the smallest things first. if you greatly overdose, it could, but at my recommended dosages all will be fine.
Thanks, this really helped a lot.
Happy to be of service!
My tank is a 275 gallon tote that I keep my catfish bait in. The water is starting to get green (algae growth). Any idea on what to do to treat this?? H2O2?? and how much??
I dunno, you'll have to do some math on that one.
New sub. Thanks for the tip. I enjoy your approach as an aquarist. I also have a duck shirt. hahaha
Thanks for checking out the content! Trying to get back on the horse after having a second kid
How does the peroxide *not* kill all of your good bacteria, as soon as you turn the pump back on??
After an hour or so the H2O2 has reacted as much as it is going to. The end result is pure water.
What percentage of H202 should you use
I use 3% but you can use any concentration and just adjust the amount accordingly.
Thanks @@BobMossNanoTanks
Does adding H2O2 Kill cyanobacteria (blue green algae) ? I have a really big 130gal aquarium and i have a cyanobacteria outbreak! will it help out with destroying all of it?
In the same boat with a 125 gallon planted tank. Im about to send it with 3ml per 10 gallons. Got cyano that ive been battling, some moderate algae also.
@@willhedington6225 bro good luck we are litteraly in the same boat let me know how it goes
I HAVE 35 PERCENT FOOD GRADE PEROXIDE. A 8 FOOT ACROSS ROUND POND BY WBOUT 14 INCHES DEEP. HOW MUCH PEROXIDE SHOULD I PUT IN
According to my math, a lowball estimate puts that at 383 gallons. 35% peroxide is about 12x stronger than what i use in my nano tanks, so rather than using 4mL per 10 gallons lets use 40mL per 100 gallons. At the 35% concentration you can safely use up to 3.3mL per 100 gallons of water. At 383 gallons, you're going to only use 12.76mL of that peroxide for the entire pond, if I did all my math correctly.
My shrimp colony has decreased by half. It's so sad. They end up lathargic with white tails each time. I can't pinpoint what it is because the parameters seem correct from comparison to the charts I have seen.
My main question is will the bacteria harm the blackworm colony within that same tank?
Sounds a bit like necrosis to me. I don't think it will effect the black worms but it's not ideal for the shrimps. I actually have it in one of my tanks right now and the colony has completely died off :(
@@BobMossNanoTanks Thats what I was thinking too. Is there any cause for it, that you know of?
Thank you bunches for responding. I was so upset thinking I was hurting them somehow.
People have said peroxide can help with the necrosis but it did nothing for me. The best bet is to remove the effected shrimp as soon as you notice them or move all the healthy shrimp ASAP so they don't catch the bad bacteria@@shelbytaylor4634
@@BobMossNanoTanks Unfortunately, I think they all have it. Started with 16, and I am down to 3. Never even got to see them have babies. I believe... It may have been from the breeders tanks.
Does this bacteria live on them? Or in them? & Would you say peroxide doses might make the tank safe for future shrimp? Or is it a tear down the tank situation? 😅
@@shelbytaylor4634 tbh I don't know that much about it, I don't think many people do. From what I've seen most people teardown and restart, I'm currently testing with some cull neocaridina to see if I can save the set up
that vest bruh 🤣
i love it, shows off the guns haha
That's not a vest. It's a wife beater tee.
Sorry but that's a tank toppy 😅
I feel like a vest has buttons and or v neck sweater vest what are we talking about here 🖖
Is hair algae the reason my loach died? 😢
12% Peroxide is used in the US by our agriculture, along with 30% vinegar. It is approved as a nontoxic item for food safety and medical safety. Thats why we can get it everywhere without a prescription.
peroxide is h2 o2. 2 hydrogen and 2 oxygen. It breaks down into h2o (water) and an extra oxygen molecule.
If your parameters are off it will not turn into water
n2h2 if you have ammonia. This is toxic.
If you have nitrite, it will create peroxynitrite (onoo-) and if you have an acidic water can cause weakened immune systems and disease.
If you have nitrates, it would he fine unless it interacts due to ph being off, or heavy metals.
Those of you saying it killed your fish, i would ask what your parameters were? Its not a lazy method to clean a tank.
He doesnt have a problem because he uses such a low dose aimed at his problem areas.
I keep a good stock of it handy for all sorts of things
so what about snail eggs on aquatic plant's is it good
at killing them? that's what I'm wondering about.
I seen where I could do a bleach dip on them but
B-4 I do that I'd like to find some other options.
it could if you let them soak, just spot treating while in the tank probably won't do much to snail eggs.
@@BobMossNanoTanks What about using white vinegar ?
I can't find anything other than buying more of something else
snails fish ext, I did some research & the ONLY thing I found
was a bleach dip (dip for 5 mins-rinse sit for 10 mins) & that's
what I did As for the snail eggs after that, I didn't see any.
@@raisinggoldfishonabudget7058 you'd have to let them soak in vinegar for awhile, I would imagine, to kill the eggs. it would probably damage the plant first tbh. bleach dip is a solid option.
could you spot treat bba?
100%! It's one of the best ways to get rid of it.
question is this only for fresh water tanks? because I have hair algae in my salt
Good question. I've never done this with saltwater but I don't see why it would cause any issues
Does this help with vorticella?
No, for that you will want fenbendazole
Very helpful! Thank you
my pleasure!
I built a new vase tank last week(for shrimp later), threw in some tissue culture plants and a big bit of tweety wood.. day later it was completely white - I guess fungus from the wood? It's calmed down but still bit cloudy, would Hydrogen peroxide help kill that? Also, will it hurt marimo moss balls?
Tbh in a new set up you don't wanna mess with it too much. It is fungus that grew but it should kind of take care of itself in a few weeks, if not feel free to spot treat.
@@BobMossNanoTanks cool. and the moss balls? I have them in another tank. Also it's your fault I now have 4 tanks with shrimp everywhere (I'm from the ol edef gang).
@@ShoganAye omg haha I forgot about that sub. Happy to get you addicted lol
@@BobMossNanoTanks I became the shrimp lady after we lost you our shrimp guy. I've also inflicted my shrimp on my boss and two coworkers 🤣
will this kill white hair algae and cyanobacteria on substrate?
Hair algae, yes. Cyanobacteria, I'm not sure. It should work, in theory, IIRC cyanobacteria flourishes with a lack of oxygen and this adds oxygen to the water.
Can you use this with fish in the tank
you bet!
will this kill hydra?
Someone told me it will kill my plants I was to fix bba isue in tank its all over rock and plants but idk what would be right amount of dose for 45 gallon tank i do have h2o2 6%
6% would be 1 oz per 10 gallons. I would likely err on the side of caution and dilute it first in 1 oz of aquarium water per oz of h202.
what can i do if i have worms in my shrimp tank , they eat algae which i dont want
You don't want the worms or the algae?
@@BobMossNanoTanks i dont want worms , they are like very tiny and not detrus , so how can i kill them
peroxide spot treating can help. just spray them with the stuff and they should die.
@@BobMossNanoTanks ok
Will adding hydrogen peroxide do any danger to my mystery snail 🐌
Other or bother?
@@BobMossNanoTanks ???
@@erikg7305 sorry there was a typo i didn't understand initially. it shouldn't if you stick to the dosing I spoke of in here. Use 3% peroxide by the way, forgot the mention that.
Does it kills gree spot algae?
it should!
Algae couse by sun light if you have big problem algae all kind you should check back if have some sun light enter you aquarium
Nutrient imbalances or even too much artificial light can cause it as well
Does it helps to remove black algae
It can help but black beard algae is the most annoying IMO.
I'm going to try it. Bleach definitely does, but I obviously can't dose bleach in my tank
@@dickbutt7854 please share once your done
Great video thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
can you use this for a disease outbreak
Depends on the disease. What are you looking at?
Will hydrogen peroxide kill Detritus worms
It can if you squirt it directly on them. Best way to control them is to reduce feeding.
Thanks for a great video
Is it safe for fry tank?
Perfectly safe as long as you don't overdo it.
very helpful thanks x
thank you for checking out my video!
green shrimp. now i've seen it all 😮
Green Hulk caridina are even more green!
@BobMossNanoTanks allright i probably need some amano for my algae but the green shrimp are definitely on the menu
Peroxide did nothing to my hair algee. Tested it in 2 tanks.
Okay now you are telling me to turn off everything for one hour? Filter and air stones? Will the hydrogen peroxide harm my guppy and Molly fry? And would it hurt my Siamese algae eaters?
I have a 55gallon tank so how much do you recommend to deal with white fungus looking stuff? Not sure if it’s algae or what it just appeared overnight. It spreads out on the glass like a coral design and wiping it off is slimy. I keep a clean tank and always maintaining it. So I have no idea how this happened. After 12 years of not having any issues bang this suddenly happened 🤷🏼♀️
H2O2 breaks down faster under light so it's just a tip to help it reach your entire tank and it shouldn't harm anything at such low doses.
Not sure what fungus stuff you're talking about without seeing a picture. Did you add something new to the tank recently? The h2o2 should help kill any bad bacteria and may help slow the spread but it's hard to say for sure without knowing more.
@@BobMossNanoTanks no I've added nothing new, that's what I mean I have nothing to even do a process of elimination which I feel would be a way of accessing what might had occurred. I'm wondering if perhaps I just need to replace the filter media in the canister? I do a weekly tank clean, not a complete just about a 20-30% which I've always done since day dot. for 12 years. And never had any algae issues, I can't even say this is algae as its more like a mould if I were to describe it. I have a fantastic substrate consisting of Aquasoil, Fluval Stratum and then on top Aragonite and Bali sands. These I've always found have been a godsend with the Mystery Snails shell quality and also maintaining pH levels etc. I have checked for dead fish and I've none, and no dead anything in the tank, not even plants.
Apart from this slimy, white/grey mould stuff that I've just noticed even has appeared on some of the substrate and plants everything is thriving. When it grows on the glass it spreads out like a coral drawing if that gives you an idea of appearance. Very odd. And I can't find anything online about it.
What percentage of hydrogen peroxide are you using ?
3%. If you have a higher percentage just dilute with water or reduce the dose accordingly.
Is there a certain percentage solution you need or just hydrogen peroxide? Check the closet and mine reads 3% U.S.P
3% is the safe rate, others are higher and will do damage as opposed to heal
Loved it ......
Will this hurt my snail
Am I correctly reading 3% hydrogen peroxide (HP) on the bottle? So you're using 3% per 10 gallons, from a solution that's already only 3% HP? Not criticising, just making sure I've got that correct. I don't want to use a 3% of a stronger solution.
That is correct!
Yeesss!! Thank you so much for this video. I'm been scratching my head for so long, gone through so many shrimp... frikken H2o2 ftw.
It's amazing, I always have a bottle on hand now. Solves so many issues!
Used it to kill hair algae and now my monte carlo is dying....
It should be able to recover after you stop using it. Just curious, how much and what percentage were you using?
Did it kill the hair tho
Hi. Could you clarify which concentration to use? I can get 3%, 6% and 35%
Yes, I use 3%. If you are getting stronger concentrations just dilute or use less as necessary and everything will be hunky dory!
H2O2 also effectively kills Cyanobacteria.
Does it kill Beneficial Bacteria ?
Only if you overdose
What Strength Of Hydrogen Peroxide ?
I use 3% as it's the most commonly available here.
@@BobMossNanoTanks 👍
Concentration??
I use 3%. If you are using higher concentrations just dilute or lower the amount accordingly.
Will H2O2 treatment kill my Cabomba? Also, what percentage do you use? :)
I use 3% h2o2. I forgot to mention it in the video, I apologize.
It MIGHT kill some of it, it looks to be a bit more sensitive of a plant? I don't have experience with it myself but most plants bounce back with no issue once you stop using it.