Candice Owens.... I am a black man and a retired airline captain. I have held a commercial pilot certificate for 40 years and an Airline Transport Pilot certificate for 30 years. All pilots regardless of race or gender are trained and assessed equally. All pilots have exceptional experience before being chosen as a candidate for employment as a pilot for a major airline in the United States of America. There are requirements that must be met. You can find those in the Federal Aviation Regulations. The problem is when I was hired for a major U.S. airline, less than one half of one percent of airline pilots flying for a U.S. air carrier were African American. The only way to create a level playing field for any person that's not male and white in the U.S.A. was to create laws that mandate rules for hiring other persons that are not just male and white. We call that quotas. Yes, necessary due to racist hiring practices in our great nation. Black pilots and women have served in the U.S. military since world war two. I've flown with white women, black women, black men and white men, Asian men, Men and women that speak Spanish, French, Arabic and Yoruba. Most all were outstanding and professional. We are a human race, Candice. We all have potential. Let's make America better than it ever has been.
It's truly a sad day you had to even type all this...like what you typed should be common knowledge yet here we are. Woo Conservatives these days extremes are outlandish
Candace Owens is a disgrace to her own people she sounds racist to her people and Charlie Kirk making it sound like black people are not qualified to be airline pilots
As a white man, I can say this without hesitation...if you look at our country's history, black progress and success has always been met with white backlash. It is absolutely true. The dismantling of DEI efforts is just another example of this in our country's long, sad racial history...one step forward is always followed by two steps back. We have got to break this cycle. And it takes all of us white people, especially white men, to LOOK PAST OURSELVES, and to try to understand the struggles of others. We've got to fight the tendency to avoid this task. What's worse is that so many of us have begun twisting and perverting the concepts of racial equality in order to avoid dealing with these realities and return to a society dominated by white supremacy.
@ketket0725 Awwww 🥹 you're welcome. And thank you for the acknowledgement. It's nice to know someone is listening, even if it isn't the people who NEED to hear it.
As a Black man, I appreciate hearing your reflections on this and acknowledgment of the work to be done. You are more than an ally, you are showcasing what it means to be an accomplice which is EXACTLY what we need.
@Thetruthishere11 Thank you so much for your acknowledgement and your kind words. It's interesting what you said about people being "accomplices". Too many of us think that because we may not have directly carried out the racial crimes of our nation, then we share no blame. But, silence is complicity. And allowing a crime to take place without reporting it is making oneself an accomplice.
My niece, a black female pilot worked for United Airlines for over a decade. She's now working for the Federal Government in Aviation. Jamaica's national airline, Air Jamaica, was piloted by all black pilots for over 50 years. And was considered one the ''SAFEST AIRLINES" in the world during that time. No mishaps... ever! 💯🇯🇲👊🏾
She didn't say that black people couldn't fly but that if you lower the standards just to meet a quota , you are going to ruin the reputation of black qualified people.
You're missing the point. In the case of your niece, she worked as a pilot not because there was need to hire a black pilot. Among whites and blacks she clearly qualified without a quota system. But the fear is that when you start having a quota system, you may start lowering the standard for that.
@@visioinspiron9380 The quotas started 40 years ago in the USA. Nothing new. No standards were lowered. Now, in 2024 there is a pilot shortage. If standards ie. experience requirements are lowered, they are lowered for each applicant. Has nothing to do with quotas.
@@robmack2837 if they don't mean black pilots then why say, you'd be worried if the pilot flying your plane was black, and since when does the word diversity mean black. Every time you hear a conservative complaining about Diversity they always like to make it about black people or women when there are hundreds of different ethnicities in the US that also are eligible and use DEI programs.
@@LNash-fn8ruFacts Every time I tell myself that I am conservative they always say. some racist 💩 and I quit. Do they think a random black person is flying the plane. the hours that you have to put in and go through to become a pilot is Crazy and many people don’t even like doing that Job ( not many ) so the people who finally do it are serious
She's a fast talker snd gas lighter, talks over her opponents is very deceptive! She finds whites that intice her but won't live next door to her! Her white husband enjoys her. Prayer for her relationship with lasting success!😊
My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airmen in WWII, he would talk about how they had to prove to the world that they were just as good as any white pilot. He unfortunately passed away in July 2020.
@user-on3fg5gt2h first Tuskegee class had a lower wash rate compared to white pilots. 40% to 63% white. They made it harder after that for black pilots.
Years ago I sent my daughter to NY to her dad and she was flying alone. Nervous, I sat with her looking for someone I could approach to ask if they would be of comfort to her in the case of emergency. I saw a woman, asked, and she agreed. A few moments later the crew showed up. As they approached my daughter caught the eye of a woman pilot. I saw pilot wings on a black woman. I was almost in tears; I knew my daughter was safe! I knew that the black woman pilot was automatically at the top of her game! She looked at my daughter and smiled.
Yes. Back when you could trust that she wasn't some DEI placement. You could know she rose to the top on merit. Although depending on how many years ago that was, because affirmative action have been placing less qualified people in jobs for years. You do know that they are bringing in numbers of people for the sake of increasing numbers? Back then you know that the pilots were a fit temperamentally, cognitively, and full of precise experience, because they were military pilots(the vast majority). Now we have less reason to feel safe. It's easy to feel happy seeing black faces, but you don't consider what the reasoning behind this push for more non white males really means. It means more compliant, more apathetic workers, we've seen it over and over again. After firing the many pilots for not taking the shot, and those that did take it are dying and sick, they ramp up this DEI in aviation scheme. Meanwhile we get less experienced, rushed through black and female pilots. It's not something we should be comfortable with. They put a black face on everything destructive so they can pacify people and find cover with the claim of "racism". You can't even imagine the relentless evil these people have planned.
@mikemaroyi7756 Well if he was such an experienced Pilot, he would have utilized forethought and judgement, and decline to fly in such bad weather condition😮
So the big question how many blacks go to aviation school? is it roughly 14% of the class which would reflect the population? Are there thousands of unemployed pilots out there because they are black?
Did y'all catch what he said, the military 🎖️🪖 is the biggest most diverse inclusive organization in the US. They kept DEI for the military but want to eliminate it everywhere else. No slight to the military, I'm a Vet and it definitely helped my get out of poverty with education, skills, VA, building my first hm, Federal employment preference ect. Blacks Excel in the military because of opportunities, operate and are in charge of multi million dollar equipment but they wanna question our abilities outside the military lol. The military figured out a long time ago that a united front is far better than a segregated front. We are supposed to be the UNITED STATES.
She sounds crazy all the time. What difference does it make if you're conservative or liberal. If the comments of a person shows a lack of intelligence, let's call it for what it is. You all act like braindead gang members with this conservative and liberal nonsense.
@@youngphenom84 The person didn't say that he/she is a conservative. I have conservative views, but so-called conservatives with christ as a litmus test scare the $hit outta me. These people are largely just as insane as liberals.
@youngphenom84 you know this because....? OH...you think all conservatives should be mindless zombies who just agree with any and all of the nonsense rhetoric other conservatives speak?? Take a seat Francis
I am 73 years old and a so called "white Jew". But I remember my mother telling me stories of the difficult problems that African Americans face during the Second World War. Where the White military officers would not place Black officers in charge of Black combat troops. They would even place lesser educated and trained Puerto Rican Officers in charge. Now after generation after generation there are still people who question the professional status of women and persons of color. I my friend Fred, was a black sailor, he spent 26 years in Naval service. He attended 21 military schools and never finish less than 5th in any of his classes. He was a very smart man. But they still questioned his abilities.
Kenny- who became a great flying platoon of the Military. They were call the Tuskegee Airman.They became great flyers but the story of who taught them has never been acknowledged well. The Blk people dont even know that.They were The Puerto Ricans who in you're worrds lesser train an lesser educated but yet Taugh Blk man an made them into the Heroes that they became.But at the same time you did know Puerto Ricans fought in those wars many without even knowing english.They didn't get drafted they Volunteer an became the greatest ground fighters front man which you know are dead meat.The untold story that needs to be told an a Movie that needs to be done because folks still think they are illegal immigrants.The Borinqueneers.
Very positive talk. My father graduated in 1948 from NYIT with a AS in Electrical Engineering and couldn’t get a job because he’s was black. After years of discriminatory hiring practices the DEI programs have given blacks a chance of being hired for professional jobs and acceptance in schools that previously excluded them.
I work for Major Airlines. They have been having black pilots for years. What airline has she been flying with. Everytime I see a Black pilots I ask to take a picture with them. All the women and minority pilots proud of you❤
I used to do that as well. Now as I have said on many occasions this is one of rhe many reasons why Candace Owens is totally full of shit. I get that she has rhe right ti her own opinion but her opinions are based on pure and total bs and her bs gets worse the more she spews her negativity against black people
What folk seem to not understand is that commercial pilots still ha e to meet the minimum standards, which is still pretty damn difficult. This isn't the police dept.
Yes! I am glad we have ROLAND MARTIN TO TEACH US HISTORY OF AMERICA 🇺🇸. They don't teach it fully in SCHOOLS. There are so many uninformed and under educated in this country, but they won't shut their mouth.
And they know better than anyone the rigorous training that ALL pilots have to go through. To speak on that alone would shut this ignorant conversation down.
Because your white colleagues worked hard like you to get the job. They believe and correctly that hiring on basis of race is racist. Ask them if they put white on their job application or left it blank. I think you may be surprised by their answer.
Can I assume that if you were not qualified and confident of your piloting skills, you would not get on plane either? Thank You for your professionalism.
No actually, when the Air Force was integrated in systems got more sophisticated, it became more and more difficult to qualify black pilots. A problem the Air Force still has.
This is all freakin ridiculous. I have been an airline pilot for nearly 30 years and I can confirm that EVERY BLACK pilot on the flight decks of most airlines are highly qualified, because we are not judged fairly during training. The black candidate HAS to perform above and beyond to succeed. We are judged a lot harder than our Caucasian counterparts. FACT!!! To this day, as a Captain flying a B767, I get frustrated with some of the white First officers on the flight deck, wondering how they pass training. I have seen it with my own eyes how they get preferential treatment. The comment made by United was racist…. It’s strictly to justify the reason why more black pilots are being hired, discrediting our true value. In this era where pilot shortage is real, the industry needs pilots badly. Most of the favored white pilots ain’t making it through training or during IOE(initial operating experience). FACT. Period!!
It's a different age now. Because we've been programed to be so consumed with race, it's a fact people are being employed based on skin color. The vice president is one of them.
In the past 6 months or so she received big monies from a lawsuit where she sued for having been racially' discriminated against by whites when she was a liberal and she convinced a white millionaire to give her a fairly tale- life with a yard full of her- their near white children! She got em in the palm of her hands! Myself : I AM BLACK AND PROUD. She flipped her script n "got over" in both lanes!!
Lol how? She’s had the same stance for a while now and it’s pretty valid. If they said they wanted to hire more white males and I went past the cockpit and it was two while males I’d be concerned too. All this stems back to taking color out and bringing merit back….literally not racist lol.
Candace is a con artist.. conning racist out of their dollars by throwing lies out at every turn.. after a while.. if you go too deep you get lost and can’t find your way back..
As a Veteran of the USAF, I would like to know what Ms. Owens thinks about the African-American fighter pilots, the African American commanders in the military or the Women that command military members across the world. So with her assumption that these individuals are not qualified to serve their country. These are the same people who stated that Colin Kaepernick was disrespectful to the troops. Ms. Owens should never set foot on a military installation because DEI is very prevalent in the Armed Forces.
Hello, and thank you for your service!! Actually what that woman thinks is so not important, and I say that because she is so programmed, and wrestles with self-hate. She really wants to be white, but she does know that's impossible so she tries to mimick them - nothing against white folks. I just am so disgusted with people that uses social media's platform and are very destructive. I've seen SM as a blessing and also a curse, because people like her get on here and spread poison. Again, I say it doesn't matter what she thinks because she doesn't speak facts, she only says what she believes will get her ahead.
I remember the movie Catch Me If You Can. The White Con Artist can bluff that he's a pilot with an airline uniform. No one questioned if he belonged. Take a seat.
not at all he complained that when whites got preferential treatment it was unfair but is know completely ok with quotas that benefit black people that is just pure racism how about we forget which race benfits from a policy and just focus on whether it is a good policy and quotas simply put do not allow businsses to hire who they deem as the most qualified candidates for whatever job which in my mind makes it a bad policy
Did anyone ask what merit or "qualifications" did Herschel (clueless) Walker have to make Trump think he can be a U.S. senator of GA during the mid-terms??
There was a really good Republican Senatorial candidate running in New York by the name of Jerome Pinion. Fox News was too obsessed with Herschel to give any credit to anyone else who actually had merit.
America has had its own "DEI" system for the last 400+ years. Their quotas were to have 90-100% white men, 9-10% white women, and a percent of some other skin tone, if they got any backlash.
I can't believe you actually believe this stuff. Please do some research. I use to be just like you and my life sucked. Once I decided to get out of this mindset my life is better than ever before. People like this make billions of dollars by making you think racism is everywhere when, in reality, racism only exists on the Democratic party. There is a reason why all they do is demonize Conservatives. They need you to believe Conservatives are evil bc they know if you actually spent time around conservatives they know you will begin to question everything you thought you knew. They have to demonize Black conservatives bc they are scared to death of the rise in Black and Latino support for Trump. If Trump supporters were so racist then why would Black and Latino men and women ditch the Democratic party and become Trump supporters in historic rates?
What people want is not equality of outcome but rather equality of opportunity so that the most qualified rather than a gender or melamine content determine suitability
thats what I am thinking he is complaining that white people used to benefit from this but now the race who is benefitting is black he is in support how about we just instead focus on the actual policy rather than which race benefits quotas are completely racist/sexist regardless of which race or sex benefits
"Most Qualifed" -- you do know that 85% of people get there job from a friend of a friend. Most qualified has never been a hiring criteria in this country....
Explained this how? By keeping up the division. Who cares what color a pilot is, if it’s a he or she, blk wh purple green, who cares, fly the darn plane. My god Roland has so much hate for wh people! He will have his day of reckoning one day!
And exactly what did you learn from this? lol. More lies! Blk people have every opportunity as wh people! If this were true, why is Stephen and Roland making over 3 million a year! Come on now. Roland preaches so much hate, the man wrote a book on it. It’s the last thing we need today.
I would've asked Klandace, how many plane crashes from 1950 to the present involved women or black pilots? Since she'd be so hesitant to get on a plane with either one. Are all white male pilots qualified Klandace?
I am glad that this all getting out in the open. I've been saying this for decades. Candace Owens is the Black face for White America. Great show!! I love it!
I agree. But, I would say that is not for all of white America. I have long said that she and others like her are "conservative" white America's "black friend". And they can believe and say that because she agrees with them, that means they are right.
I like Michael Harriot's point that (I'm paraphrasing) DEI/affirmative action is to make sure that qualified minority and female job candidates aren't overlooked in favor of LESS qualified white males.
@teamamerica5987 So.. You've just admitted that you think skin color is the standard. DEI isn't lowering standards in preference of skin color.. they are expanding which qualified applicants get looked at based on qualifications AND skin color because of ignorant fools like you who think that skin color determines qualification and won't even look at other qualified applicants. You know that. And if you don't know that.. then YOU'RE not even qualified to respond to this post.
@TorreEdwards wrong! Please go watch Candace video. You will see how Roland is very dishonest and tries his hardest to make blk people hate wh people! It’s pretty sad!
@TorreEdwards wrong! Please go watch Candace video. You will see how Roland is very dishonest and tries his hardest to make blk people hate wh people! It’s pretty sad!
When it comes to being responsible for hundreds of lives at one single time, as a pilot is, you best believe you want the most qualified person regardless of their race
@@craigman7262 but the government has been watering that down through regulations and requirements/quotas and the airlines and other businesses are flipping themselves into pretzels to make it happen. We’re not racist for pointing these things out. We point these things out because we don’t want people to get hurt or die. We don’t want planes to crash.
Hi Roland, I am so proud of you..all I can say on the subject is : 😮 if you are walking on a farm and you should encounter a cow patty poop, would you step in it or would you step over so as to avoid it and continue on your wsy. Similarly thst is exactly how Candicd Owens comments should be treated...don't lower or compromise your dignity as to give her 2 minutes of your precious, informed and educated time. Again, thanks for all that you do.
As a navy vet, I served on ships with women. When asked to do a task, the women did an outstanding job. And hell yes they were qualified jus like us men
That’s the point………. Qualified!!! These two making everything about race when it’s not actually the issue. The issue is qualified!!! Yes more women and women of color should be allowed to fly commercial planes? But at least be qualified to do it? Once again I believe people clearly misunderstand the point? Especially someone like Candace Owens. And Roland ‘ Move The Goalposts’ Martin is just being ignorant!!!!
As someone who also is a navy vet. That wasn't the point of what Candace Owens said. Nobody thought about this until United said they'd push DEI to 50% empolyee miniorites. When it comes to being responsible for hundreds of lives at one single time, as a pilot , you best believe you want the most qualified person regardless of their race. Now that they dont care about qualifications anymore and only about race, it's scary that theyll just hire people to cehck a box and not the best person for the job.
@Omegateck16 Your comment sounds stupid as h... Dude, no airline company won't hire someone who hasn't received the proper training and qualifications. WTF are you talking about. You realize there's a lot of black mechanics working on those aircraft's. Dummy😅😅😅
I'm also a Navy Electrician Mate Vet and I know plenty of black aircraft mechanics both men and women who performed very well. Not a single plane crashed or malfunction during flight ops.
Right? We know what she had to but up with and overcome just to get there! She's a fighter who likely does not give up and has experience getting out of near no win situations lol. Thats the type of person you want behind the sticks when something goes down! (No pun intended!)
Well of course if you know that this black female pilot, or any pilot went through the same wreckers to get hired. But when you have a quota system there’s pressure to qualify people. We see this all through the military and they have to change standards to get enough women qualified simple fitness test.
Not one black pilot in this report, but you have been conditioned to believe white is right. The total fatalities due to aviation accidents since 1970 is 83,772. The total number of incidents is 11,164. According to ACRO, recent years have been considerably safer for aviation, with fewer than 170 incidents every year between 2009 and 2017, compared to as many as 226 as recently as 1998.
Me too, as a white guy I love seeing black people live in victimhood, we need people like these brothers to keep black people in that mind set until we get enough illegals in here to replace them
Bro you HAVE to be qualified to fly a plane, do y’all kno how many hours you have to put in flying before you can fly others ? 😂 like of course they gone be qualified smh that’s dumb to even question that
How long before they claim that the qualification process is biased and demand the standards be lowered. That's what they are doing in other schools where they are getting rid of standardized testing.
@@Omegateck16Yes, she is. I don't see any other black people at that network outside of Candace. It's not because of her qualifications because she dropped out of college.
@@TalkinnGrubbinMedia Or mabye its because the only black outspoken conservatives with followings are Candace, Hodge Twins, Officer Tatum..they are all grouped with someone already.
Exactly. She is a black woman running interference for conservatives and white supremacists. It is much easier getting a black women to trash women and black people
Her black behind has been indoctrinated. My cousin was a helicopter pilot inbthe airforce. Became a pilot flying for a major airline and flying most of his flight overseas. He retired some years ago. He showed me a book with all the black pilots flying planes for this airline. I was floored, not because they weren't qualified, its because I didn't know there were that many black pilots. God didn't give white people intelligence, talents, and certain gifts only, he gave it to everyone. Blacks given the opportunity for education and traing, they can do whatever they are given an opportunity to do..
There are plenty of African sisters flying or have been flying from Nigeria, Kenya and Ethiopia and lets not ever forget the greatness of the Tuskegee Airmen the Black Eagle and Bessie Coleman and Eugene Bullard no Tuskeegee Airman was offered a job after the war speak it Roland
Bro Ive seen so many black pilots and black female pilots in Africa. Do people not realize the majority of pilots over there are black? How many plane crashes are we hearing about?
Recently a pilot instructor confirmed the qualification standards to become a pilot have been lowered to fill diversity quotas, which he says makes him highly concerned...and he's an aviation instructor. To this, you say what?
As an old white liberal Mr. Marten is on point. I have worked with African American men with the same qualifications as mine and seen them treated differently by our supervisor snd fellow white co workers. I have had private conversations with these men over their treatment but there was very little i could do to help because of the system.
@tombrewsaugh- That is good you have that awareness. I'm a black female Biomedical Engineer. I've faced tremendous racism in my 19 year career. I could write a book. I had to leave Corporate America. I'm now doing consulting and it's much better. I will never go back full-time. The racism took a toll on me. You're right it's a system, and no matter how many degrees, you will never be treated fairly.
As a pilot who's been flying for over 30 years I can attest to the fact that Candace and Charlie are completely wrong. Makes me wonder what else she and her boy are wrong about.🤔
I can't listen to Candace Owen!!!! C'mon, as if Trump wz qualified 2b the President!!!! A part of Trump's anger & why he was SO threatened by Barak Obama was b/c former Barak Obama went to Ivy League University based on his own merit & scholarships, when his daddy had to give extra money to an Ivy League University to get his son, Donald Trump in!!!!
Great take Gentlemen, the legendary Bessie Coleman who became the 1st Licensed International Female African American Pilot ✈️ on June 15th 1921 is looking down smiling on you both! Keep up the Good work!
Yes! I actually thought of Bessie Coleman as I watched this. I taught elementary school students (predominantly white/Caucasian) in two schools about this brave and exceptional Black/American Indian/Indigenous/African American woman. They loved learning about her. The first person to ever hold an International pilot’s license and she had to learn French in order to accomplish that. ✈️
The black ppl defending Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and justifying their prejudices makes me quite sad. I love my brothers and sisters, but man ppl will spit right in our face and some of us will say that it's just raining outside. Stated simply, no matter how hard I work, no matter how credentialed or certified I am, none of that matters because I am a black man. They cant see my skills or talents just by looking at me, yet they can see my skin color. Because I'm black, Charlie Kirk's default response is to assume that I'm not qualified. Candace Owens saw the same clip we did, and did ninja gymnastics to come to the conclusions that she would have the same feeling if she say a woman flying. She's pretty much saying "His racism is okay because I'm slightly sexist myself." I promise it's not rain outside guys. Much love everyone 🙏🏿
The fear began when we were no longer slaves. We showed just how strong a people we were, which wasn’t expected. We began to thrive, and in many instances surpass. This is what started movement to keep us from becoming the powerhouse we are capable of becoming. For those that don’t know, back in 1898, this country had it’s first stolen election in Wilmington NC. The end result was the writing of the White Man’s Declaration of Independence; which includes a statement declaring that whites will never answer to a person of color. What started then in Wilmington, filtered throughout the south, and started the suppression of blacks. The laws and rules were written to ensure we had no fare opportunities to grow as a people, and to ensure we could always be considered, less than. The problem then and throughout history, right up until today, is that whenever we are truly and fairly given the opportunity, we absolutely kill it! A level playing field for many against equality, means those that were considered less than, often times show up as equal to, or better than. That’s the fear!
Candace said she's starting to care because of diversity hires. Putting aside the truth of that claim, would you care more about skin color if you thought that was happening?
Recently a pilot instructor confirmed the qualification standards to become a pilot have been lowered to fill diversity quotas, which he says makes him highly concerned...and he's an aviation instructor. To this, you say what?
Thank you Stephen for having Roland S Martin to respond to this Charlie Kirk false assertion of Black people’s capability. I agree with Roland’s response 💯 %. Great Conversation.
Thank you for having Roland S. Martin on Stephen. I watch and listen to him daily and appreciate his voice in media. I love the show. Keep the soaring.🚀
100% right - how did he get this job. Countless times I’ve experienced working with some “person” not colored or female that had a position that was clearly over their head and we don’t ask that when we see them, instead we disparage the black, Latino, female etc and question if they got a pass cause of Inclusivity.
I've said this before on another social media platform, I've never once asked myself that when boarding a plane and I've flown numerous times and over international waters What i think about while getting on a plane is: • is the AC on • hope the charging plug works • what movie am i going to watch • better not sit next to a young child • why tf was the pilot late and boards first 😆 • we better not late or too early • AND i better be able to sleep Like wtf some people think too into shit OR maybe i don't overthink into shit enough...
Great session!! Need more of this black men supporting and lifting each other up on each other's platforms!! We have always done it but to see it is worth rewriting the lies the media always puts out about us 💪🏾
@George-pq3en it’s sad so many people don’t do there own research and realize Candace didn’t say anything what he said! Go watch her video! Then call this r man out! The world doesn’t need all this hate today!
I flew American Airlines to the resort where I had my wedding and the pilot was a Hispanic woman and she was AWESOME with getting us to our destination quickly and smoothly. So Candace is freaking lying and is a talking head.
What Charlie and Candace said made me physically sick. DEI is about peeling away the barriers that QUALIFIED people face due to bias in hiring. It is not the hiring of unqualified people. But when you don’t know how things work and are blind to the bias that exists, you just fill in the gaps with your own prejudice.
@@ToneFury Well I’ve been a hiring manager for 20 years spanning 2 companies w a combined total of 120,000 employees. But no, yeah, I probably have no experience with DEI initiatives and hiring practices. Probably definitely go with Charlie Kirk who appears to have extensive experience with diversity. 👍🏻
Martin yes nit stephen who was caught speaking well of trump. So he suspect to me. How stephen supported President Obama and have something good about trump.
People are only questioning qualifications because they CEO came out and said they are hiring people based on DEI. If they never said that then no one would question it.
How so? Perhaps you didn’t hear Stephen in his latest video where he goes off on Adams! Listen again my friend! He mentions how he forgave Biden for his senator years! So many blk people don’t even know the truth! You’re all blinded by colors! Do your research and learn about the 3strike law! Learn what B called blk children! Wake up! @@schoc13
And these yt folk doing their job if u think companies don't do their best to make that happen...like they want lawsuits because they just moving people along😅
lol.. sure he loves to preach hate and keep wh and blk divided. How anyone can listen to so much hate is disturbing. Remember he gets paid very well to manipulate you!
Man, I got mad love for BROTHERS LIKE THESE 2, that can bring opposed views to a conversation WITHOUT NEGATIVITY geared towards one another. Respect to u two brothers for being a great example
WE have to vote for Biden black folk.Trump had no black folk in his Whitehouse.Biden put in first black VP.First black supreme court justice.Biden put in black secretary of defense.Im voting for Biden again.
“Moment not a MOVEMENT” really touched me - Roland/Stephen/Joe Madison/Clay Cane/L Daniels/Karen Hunter/Tabatha…. many more- thank you all for keeping us informed/aware - PRAY and VOTE
Have they informed you that they are rich; and play on the uniformed to keep them in their current positions. Have they informed any of you that you will be 5th Class Citizens soon b/c they’re cool w/ the immigration laws & policies which will eventually effect the average citizen… Not the RICH but the less than middle tier population… You guys need to wake up immediately from this ILLUSION & SLAVE PLANTATION.
Following the conversation from Kenya. We've had black women pilots flying the latest and largest commercial passenger aircraft, for decades. So have our neighbors Ethiopia. I've been thinking about the affirmative action conversations I've been seeing in the US. I think a diverse set of life experiences (places, people, corporations, communities etc) would help people appreciate the complexities in human psychology and society more, and therefore have better judgement regarding what is required for stable, thriving societies. If that doesn't happen, people will be constantly battling the consequences. I can give an example of say, mining companies I've seen around the world. If those companies see things simplistically as them doing their business and not considering their interactions with the communities around them, there are often problems that hurt those companies' bottom lines in the long run. I'm trying to say something indirectly.
You seem to not understand the challenge. There are not enough supply of Females or minorities who are A. Insterested in aviation B. Able to complete training without standards relaxed. If there is a supply shortage, how do you get more of those you need to check the box? How?
@@59Gretsch *Entry Requirements to Be an Airline Pilot* To start your journey to become a pilot in the U.S., prospective cadets need to meet entry criteria. Please visit each of our pilot training programs and courses for full entry criteria. To apply for a commercial airline pilot training program, you will need to meet the following requirements: • At least 17 years old in order to receive your Private Pilot Certificate • Proficient in reading, writing, speaking, and understanding English • A high school graduate or GED completer • Able to obtain an FAA medical certificate *How to Get Your Commercial Pilot License in the U.S.A. at a Glance:* How do you become an airline pilot? You need to undergo commercial airline pilot training and exhibit the necessary skills to succeed. At a glance, let’s look at they key steps to becoming a commercial pilot: • You will need a Commercial Pilot License and 1,500 flying hours to earn your Airline Transport Pilot Certificate and become an airline pilot • It takes an average of 10-22.5 months to complete your flight school training - depending on the program you choose - before going on to obtain your 1,500 flying hours • What does it take to become a commercial pilot? You will undertake FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) approved pilot training courses, and programs Nationally Accredited by the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges • Alongside the qualifications and requirements to be an airline pilot, you will need passion, self-discipline, technical aptitude, problem-solving skills, teamwork, spatial awareness, and the ability to make decisions under pressure to become a successful pilot *Which of these standards have been dropped or relaxed?*
@@59GretschI’ll answer that for him: By taking people into any job positions by any means necessary. If the objective is to be diverse, equitable, and inclusive, then the objective requirements don’t apply as primary principles for employment anymore. What is of primary importance is that we “help” and “appeal” to people who haven’t been able to make the bar of job qualifications, and we do so by discriminating against those who meet and/or exceed the job qualifications in question.
@@59Gretsch In Kenya we've not had to lower any bar and I wouldn't like that whatsoever. In better managed societies, the supply side is cultivated. We can do much better on that in Kenya, but we do have public high schools teaching aviation, with students interacting with real aircraft for 4 years, and some of them going on to become pilots, aeronautical engineers, technicians etc. That helps bridge an undeniable gap that can be attributed to economic opportunities. Things like that is how supply is built. Of course, different sets of people will be able interested in/incline to different things. What's important is that they have an opportunity.
Candice Owens.... I am a black man and a retired airline captain. I have held a commercial pilot certificate for 40 years and an Airline Transport Pilot certificate for 30 years. All pilots regardless of race or gender are trained and assessed equally. All pilots have exceptional experience before being chosen as a candidate for employment as a pilot for a major airline in the United States of America. There are requirements that must be met. You can find those in the Federal Aviation Regulations. The problem is when I was hired for a major U.S. airline, less than one half of one percent of airline pilots flying for a U.S. air carrier were African American. The only way to create a level playing field for any person that's not male and white in the U.S.A. was to create laws that mandate rules for hiring other persons that are not just male and white. We call that quotas. Yes, necessary due to racist hiring practices in our great nation. Black pilots and women have served in the U.S. military since world war two. I've flown with white women, black women, black men and white men, Asian men, Men and women that speak Spanish, French, Arabic and Yoruba. Most all were outstanding and professional. We are a human race, Candice. We all have potential. Let's make America better than it ever has been.
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Well she hate u
I am glad to hear that my brother but Candace will not listen to sound doctrine or a message as you have articulated 😢
It's truly a sad day you had to even type all this...like what you typed should be common knowledge yet here we are.
Woo Conservatives these days extremes are outlandish
Candace Owens is a disgrace to her own people she sounds racist to her people and Charlie Kirk making it sound like black people are not qualified to be airline pilots
As a white man, I can say this without hesitation...if you look at our country's history, black progress and success has always been met with white backlash. It is absolutely true. The dismantling of DEI efforts is just another example of this in our country's long, sad racial history...one step forward is always followed by two steps back. We have got to break this cycle. And it takes all of us white people, especially white men, to LOOK PAST OURSELVES, and to try to understand the struggles of others. We've got to fight the tendency to avoid this task. What's worse is that so many of us have begun twisting and perverting the concepts of racial equality in order to avoid dealing with these realities and return to a society dominated by white supremacy.
Thank you!
@ketket0725 Awwww 🥹 you're welcome. And thank you for the acknowledgement. It's nice to know someone is listening, even if it isn't the people who NEED to hear it.
Thank you - WE (all people/race/culture/color) must come together in a peace & love
As a Black man, I appreciate hearing your reflections on this and acknowledgment of the work to be done. You are more than an ally, you are showcasing what it means to be an accomplice which is EXACTLY what we need.
@Thetruthishere11 Thank you so much for your acknowledgement and your kind words. It's interesting what you said about people being "accomplices". Too many of us think that because we may not have directly carried out the racial crimes of our nation, then we share no blame. But, silence is complicity. And allowing a crime to take place without reporting it is making oneself an accomplice.
My niece, a black female pilot worked for United Airlines for over a decade. She's now working for the Federal Government in Aviation. Jamaica's national airline, Air Jamaica, was piloted by all black pilots for over 50 years. And was considered one the ''SAFEST AIRLINES" in the world during that time. No mishaps... ever! 💯🇯🇲👊🏾
She didn't say that black people couldn't fly but that if you lower the standards just to meet a quota , you are going to ruin the reputation of black qualified people.
You're missing the point. In the case of your niece, she worked as a pilot not because there was need to hire a black pilot. Among whites and blacks she clearly qualified without a quota system. But the fear is that when you start having a quota system, you may start lowering the standard for that.
@@visioinspiron9380 The quotas started 40 years ago in the USA. Nothing new. No standards were lowered.
Now, in 2024 there is a pilot shortage. If standards ie. experience requirements are lowered, they are lowered for each applicant. Has nothing to do with quotas.
@@robmack2837 if they don't mean black pilots then why say, you'd be worried if the pilot flying your plane was black, and since when does the word diversity mean black. Every time you hear a conservative complaining about Diversity they always like to make it about black people or women when there are hundreds of different ethnicities in the US that also are eligible and use DEI programs.
@@LNash-fn8ruFacts Every time I tell myself that I am conservative they always say. some racist 💩 and I quit. Do they think a random black person is flying the plane. the hours that you have to put in and go through to become a pilot is Crazy and many people don’t even like doing that Job ( not many ) so the people who finally do it are serious
Black and female pilots had been flying airplanes safely before Candance Owens and Charlie Kirk were born.
Absolutely, those two need to sit down and shut up .
She's a fast talker snd gas lighter, talks over her opponents is very deceptive! She finds whites that intice her but won't live next door to her! Her white husband enjoys her. Prayer for her relationship with lasting success!😊
So now the truth is being told they should sit down. A hit dog will always holler 😅😅
I understand were Candice and Charlie are coming from
You all are missing the big point
And the black population is shrinking because of Hispanics but it seems like they are scared too say that
My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airmen in WWII, he would talk about how they had to prove to the world that they were just as good as any white pilot. He unfortunately passed away in July 2020.
Did he think the bar should have been lowered for blacks?
From Louisiana?
@@mcdonoghrahloh459 Memphis Tennessee
@@mcdonoghrahloh459 from Memphis, Tennessee
@user-on3fg5gt2h first Tuskegee class had a lower wash rate compared to white pilots. 40% to 63% white. They made it harder after that for black pilots.
Years ago I sent my daughter to NY to her dad and she was flying alone. Nervous, I sat with her looking for someone I could approach to ask if they would be of comfort to her in the case of emergency. I saw a woman, asked, and she agreed. A few moments later the crew showed up. As they approached my daughter caught the eye of a woman pilot. I saw pilot wings on a black woman. I was almost in tears; I knew my daughter was safe! I knew that the black woman pilot was automatically at the top of her game! She looked at my daughter and smiled.
Yes. Back when you could trust that she wasn't some DEI placement. You could know she rose to the top on merit. Although depending on how many years ago that was, because affirmative action have been placing less qualified people in jobs for years. You do know that they are bringing in numbers of people for the sake of increasing numbers? Back then you know that the pilots were a fit temperamentally, cognitively, and full of precise experience, because they were military pilots(the vast majority). Now we have less reason to feel safe. It's easy to feel happy seeing black faces, but you don't consider what the reasoning behind this push for more non white males really means. It means more compliant, more apathetic workers, we've seen it over and over again. After firing the many pilots for not taking the shot, and those that did take it are dying and sick, they ramp up this DEI in aviation scheme. Meanwhile we get less experienced, rushed through black and female pilots. It's not something we should be comfortable with. They put a black face on everything destructive so they can pacify people and find cover with the claim of "racism". You can't even imagine the relentless evil these people have planned.
Roland S Martin you talk with salt and fresh water out of your mouth at the same time.....
And yet no one EVER questioned the qualifications of the helicopter pilot in Kobe’s crash. 😒😒😒
Interesting comment...
That was due to weather conditions
@@mikemaroyi7756yeah right
@mikemaroyi7756 Which may have proved the point regarding Kobe's untimely death. The pilot should have known better to fly in such conditions, eh?
@mikemaroyi7756 Well if he was such an experienced Pilot, he would have utilized forethought and judgement, and decline to fly in such bad weather condition😮
I am a black aviator, I do not think I went to a separate flight school.
Who brought that up?
@@derekeady3119 It's implied ... phallus!
So the big question how many blacks go to aviation school? is it roughly 14% of the class which would reflect the population? Are there thousands of unemployed pilots out there because they are black?
@@exdoodeyou might want to check that spelling.. do you mean fallacy?
Did y'all catch what he said, the military 🎖️🪖 is the biggest most diverse inclusive organization in the US. They kept DEI for the military but want to eliminate it everywhere else. No slight to the military, I'm a Vet and it definitely helped my get out of poverty with education, skills, VA, building my first hm, Federal employment preference ect. Blacks Excel in the military because of opportunities, operate and are in charge of multi million dollar equipment but they wanna question our abilities outside the military lol. The military figured out a long time ago that a united front is far better than a segregated front. We are supposed to be the UNITED STATES.
So when we see candace owens talking, we have the think " is she qualified to ask if someone else is qualified?"
She's a college dropout.
@@thecrimsoncure8201 Just like Charlie kirk and Matt Walsh
@@thecrimsoncure8201 I thought she went to University of Rhode Island
@@fredylucas2484...She dropped out in her freshman year. 😒
It would help if you could type in complete sentences.
I’m a conservative voter. Roland Martin was on point. Candace Owens sound crazy for them comments.
She sounds crazy all the time. What difference does it make if you're conservative or liberal. If the comments of a person shows a lack of intelligence, let's call it for what it is. You all act like braindead gang members with this conservative and liberal nonsense.
You’re not conservative.
@@youngphenom84 The person didn't say that he/she is a conservative. I have conservative views, but so-called conservatives with christ as a litmus test scare the $hit outta me. These people are largely just as insane as liberals.
She sounds crazy because she is crazy! She is a BIG grifter!
@youngphenom84 you know this because....? OH...you think all conservatives should be mindless zombies who just agree with any and all of the nonsense rhetoric other conservatives speak?? Take a seat Francis
I am 73 years old and a so called "white Jew". But I remember my mother telling me stories of the difficult problems that African Americans face during the Second World War. Where the White military officers would not place Black officers in charge of Black combat troops. They would even place lesser educated and trained Puerto Rican Officers in charge.
Now after generation after generation there are still people who question the professional status of women and persons of color.
I my friend Fred, was a black sailor, he spent 26 years in Naval service. He attended 21 military schools and never finish less than 5th in any of his classes. He was a very smart man. But they still questioned his abilities.
I am a diesel technician and I get this and I am better technician than 90 percent of them.
Kenny- who became a great flying platoon of the Military. They were call the Tuskegee Airman.They became great flyers but the story of who taught them has never been acknowledged well. The Blk people dont even know that.They were The Puerto Ricans who in you're worrds lesser train an lesser educated but yet Taugh Blk man an made them into the Heroes that they became.But at the same time you did know Puerto Ricans fought in those wars many without even knowing english.They didn't get drafted they Volunteer an became the greatest ground fighters front man which you know are dead meat.The untold story that needs to be told an a Movie that needs to be done because folks still think they are illegal immigrants.The Borinqueneers.
Very positive talk. My father graduated in 1948 from NYIT with a AS in Electrical Engineering and couldn’t get a job because he’s was black. After years of discriminatory hiring practices the DEI programs have given blacks a chance of being hired for professional jobs and acceptance in schools that previously excluded them.
You are absolutely right.
😢This will never end -- "them against us; us against us. Thank you, Roland, for keeping facts straight, brother!
Yes thank you Roland
And they b kno e c this man is BRILLIANT..CĤANGING LETTERS LIKE WEX. CANT SPELL SCEAMS. AND DUM..*💯NOT TOUCH WHAT TRUE M
Just stirring up his money pot. No racism issues means no money for him. Spirit of DIVISION runs this man
@BrendaSheard-vt9fu
Not sure. Can you translate that into English?
Based on her own criteria, she’s not qualified. Did she graduate college? She studied journalism but nene graduated
She is not a journalist she infotainment.
@@amaradominique she is not qualified
@@dolemites_chainblock head 😂 love it
Exactly
Benedict Arnaud! Karma is a B...! Remember Amorosa.
I work for Major Airlines. They have been having black pilots for years. What airline has she been flying with. Everytime I see a Black pilots I ask to take a picture with them. All the women and minority pilots proud of you❤
I used to do that as well. Now as I have said on many occasions this is one of rhe many reasons why Candace Owens is totally full of shit. I get that she has rhe right ti her own opinion but her opinions are based on pure and total bs and her bs gets worse the more she spews her negativity against black people
What folk seem to not understand is that commercial pilots still ha e to meet the minimum standards, which is still pretty damn difficult. This isn't the police dept.
Yes, we are.
*#METOO*
@@nsudatta-roy8154 Exactly
STEPHEN A - awesome having Roland on to educate and inform !!!!!
Yes! I am glad we have ROLAND MARTIN TO TEACH US HISTORY OF AMERICA 🇺🇸. They don't teach it fully in SCHOOLS. There are so many uninformed and under educated in this country, but they won't shut their mouth.
As a black aviator, the silence of my white colleagues around these comments is deafening.
And they know better than anyone the rigorous training that ALL pilots have to go through. To speak on that alone would shut this ignorant conversation down.
Because your white colleagues worked hard like you to get the job. They believe and correctly that hiring on basis of race is racist. Ask them if they put white on their job application or left it blank. I think you may be surprised by their answer.
Not shocking but still sad
Can I assume that if you were not qualified and confident of your piloting skills, you would not get on plane either? Thank You for your professionalism.
They’ll just pretend they haven’t heard these comments
The Black pilots in the war 2, their still admiring them. They were the best.
The Tuskegee Airmen
Yes
No actually, when the Air Force was integrated in systems got more sophisticated, it became more and more difficult to qualify black pilots. A problem the Air Force still has.
That's bs. Modern system are even more comfortable and automated.
That's bs. Modern system are even more comfortable and automated.
This is all freakin ridiculous. I have been an airline pilot for nearly 30 years and I can confirm that EVERY BLACK pilot on the flight decks of most airlines are highly qualified, because we are not judged fairly during training. The black candidate HAS to perform above and beyond to succeed. We are judged a lot harder than our Caucasian counterparts. FACT!!! To this day, as a Captain flying a B767, I get frustrated with some of the white First officers on the flight deck, wondering how they pass training. I have seen it with my own eyes how they get preferential treatment.
The comment made by United was racist…. It’s strictly to justify the reason why more black pilots are being hired, discrediting our true value. In this era where pilot shortage is real, the industry needs pilots badly. Most of the favored white pilots ain’t making it through training or during IOE(initial operating experience). FACT. Period!!
This to help our replacement class get our jobs
Like you
It's a different age now. Because we've been programed to be so consumed with race, it's a fact people are being employed based on skin color. The vice president is one of them.
Preach
@@Michael-tc1dm BUT it wasn't just because, Kamala was black or a woman, BUT Kamala Harris was ALSO Prosecutor & District Attorney!!!!
I am A.76 year-old White woman I Live in Alabama. I like Roland Martin Show.
Thank you for calling Candace out for being a hypocrite!!!!
In the past 6 months or so she received big monies from a lawsuit where she sued for having been racially' discriminated against by whites when she was a liberal and she convinced a white millionaire to give her a fairly tale- life with a yard full of her- their near white children! She got em in the palm of her hands! Myself : I AM BLACK AND PROUD. She flipped her script n "got over" in both lanes!!
Lol how? She’s had the same stance for a while now and it’s pretty valid. If they said they wanted to hire more white males and I went past the cockpit and it was two while males I’d be concerned too. All this stems back to taking color out and bringing merit back….literally not racist lol.
Candace is a con artist.. conning racist out of their dollars by throwing lies out at every turn.. after a while.. if you go too deep you get lost and can’t find your way back..
Candace is the Queen of hypocrisy!!
I get triggered every time I hear her speak!
This Roland Martin dude just dropped a 💎,I appreciate the knowledge brother 💯💪🏽
As a Veteran of the USAF, I would like to know what Ms. Owens thinks about the African-American fighter pilots, the African American commanders in the military or the Women that command military members across the world. So with her assumption that these individuals
are not qualified to serve their country.
These are the same people who stated that Colin Kaepernick was disrespectful to the troops. Ms. Owens should never set foot on a military installation because DEI is very prevalent in the Armed Forces.
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Hello, and thank you for your service!! Actually what that woman thinks is so not important, and I say that because she is so programmed, and wrestles with self-hate. She really wants to be white, but she does know that's impossible so she tries to mimick them - nothing against white folks. I just am so disgusted with people that uses social media's platform and are very destructive. I've seen SM as a blessing and also a curse, because people like her get on here and spread poison. Again, I say it doesn't matter what she thinks because she doesn't speak facts, she only says what she believes will get her ahead.
Candice trying to get invited to the picnic. 😂
can DACE
She can't be with that type of talk. Those words were coming out the side of her butt.
I remember the movie Catch Me If You Can. The White Con Artist can bluff that he's a pilot with an airline uniform. No one questioned if he belonged. Take a seat.
Thank you for this conversation Stephen A & Roland Martin! It was great and on point!
not at all he complained that when whites got preferential treatment it was unfair but is know completely ok with quotas that benefit black people that is just pure racism how about we forget which race benfits from a policy and just focus on whether it is a good policy and quotas simply put do not allow businsses to hire who they deem as the most qualified candidates for whatever job which in my mind makes it a bad policy
Roland Martin will always bring the receipts always.❤❤❤
Bias liberal wokers 😂😂😂 quit making fools of yourselves you ain't change in my mind😊
Martin calls it like it is, awesome
Why was she not on the show .
Good on Steven A for giving Roland this platform to speak truth. 💯
Did anyone ask what merit or "qualifications" did Herschel (clueless) Walker have to make Trump think he can be a U.S. senator of GA during the mid-terms??
Oh they did not ask because he was doing the same thing Candance has been doing- being a surrogate for white prejudiced rhetoric.
There was a really good Republican Senatorial candidate running in New York by the name of Jerome Pinion. Fox News was too obsessed with Herschel to give any credit to anyone else who actually had merit.
Herschel Walker isn't anymore clueless than Biden.
grow up .@@c-mobucks4930
c-mobucks4930:. Next you would be trying to convince us that Biden could rush for 200 yards against Bama.
America has had its own "DEI" system for the last 400+ years. Their quotas were to have 90-100% white men, 9-10% white women, and a percent of some other skin tone, if they got any backlash.
Exactly!! I wish more talking heads would state this fact.
*"CAUCASIAN". **#THEREIFIXEDIT*
I can't believe you actually believe this stuff. Please do some research. I use to be just like you and my life sucked. Once I decided to get out of this mindset my life is better than ever before. People like this make billions of dollars by making you think racism is everywhere when, in reality, racism only exists on the Democratic party. There is a reason why all they do is demonize Conservatives. They need you to believe Conservatives are evil bc they know if you actually spent time around conservatives they know you will begin to question everything you thought you knew. They have to demonize Black conservatives bc they are scared to death of the rise in Black and Latino support for Trump. If Trump supporters were so racist then why would Black and Latino men and women ditch the Democratic party and become Trump supporters in historic rates?
lol. That’s not even close to being possible. Why would you want to believe something like that unless you want to find an excuse?
And it worked….
Wow. I could listen to these two brothers all day! Both are well-informed and very intelligent!
What people want is not equality of outcome but rather equality of opportunity so that the most qualified rather than a gender or melamine content determine suitability
thats what I am thinking he is complaining that white people used to benefit from this but now the race who is benefitting is black he is in support how about we just instead focus on the actual policy rather than which race benefits
quotas are completely racist/sexist regardless of which race or sex benefits
"Most Qualifed" -- you do know that 85% of people get there job from a friend of a friend.
Most qualified has never been a hiring criteria in this country....
Mr. Stephen A. Smith thank you for having Mr. Roland Martin on to explain this to others.
ROLAND IS A DEMOCRATS CHEERLEADER..HE HAS POTENTIAL..
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yeah he is a genius lol
Explained this how? By keeping up the division. Who cares what color a pilot is, if it’s a he or she, blk wh purple green, who cares, fly the darn plane. My god Roland has so much hate for wh people! He will have his day of reckoning one day!
And exactly what did you learn from this? lol. More lies! Blk people have every opportunity as wh people! If this were true, why is Stephen and Roland making over 3 million a year! Come on now. Roland preaches so much hate, the man wrote a book on it. It’s the last thing we need today.
I would've asked Klandace, how many plane crashes from 1950 to the present involved women or black pilots? Since she'd be so hesitant to get on a plane with either one. Are all white male pilots qualified Klandace?
A waste of time, she’s dumb and speaks to get some reaction to stay relevant.
Klandace. . . (luv it)😂
No you didn’t call her Klandace. Damn!!!!
I am glad that this all getting out in the open. I've been saying this for decades. Candace Owens is the Black face for White America. Great show!! I love it!
Candace Blowens SO wishes she was WHITE!!!
Completely disagree. Black folk ain't no monolith. We all do not think the same.
@@bossK78 Yeah right..The only people that agree with Coondace Owens are treacherous Raccoons and white supremacists. Which one are you?
@@bossK78No shit but she's not an independent thinker she's a clout chaser,a grifter looking for White's validation
I agree. But, I would say that is not for all of white America. I have long said that she and others like her are "conservative" white America's "black friend". And they can believe and say that because she agrees with them, that means they are right.
I love roland martin he is one the intelligent and informed black persons out there
I dare Candice to go and be a guest on Roland’s podcast and engage in a conversation with him about her political beliefs and views.
She won't. She's knees that Martin will smoke her like a Newport
Roland will try to out talk or ignore her just like he did Umar Johnson
Owens and Sowell both like to work solo.
She's not going to do it. She's playing the game to get paid
She knows better...
EXCELLENT conversation!! Loved Roland's background info , especially about VOTING RIGHTS! Thank you! ❤
Roland Martin is ALWAYS COMING WITH RECEIPTS!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
*AND BOOKS/KNOWLEDGE*
Two of the best black reporters today thank ya for your service
I like Michael Harriot's point that (I'm paraphrasing) DEI/affirmative action is to make sure that qualified minority and female job candidates aren't overlooked in favor of LESS qualified white males.
Exactly and they try to flip it
Like studies have shown that the group of people who benefitted the most from DEI/affirmative action policies is white women.
No it isn't. Its about lowering standards based on skin color.
Quotas instead of quality.
@teamamerica5987 So.. You've just admitted that you think skin color is the standard. DEI isn't lowering standards in preference of skin color.. they are expanding which qualified applicants get looked at based on qualifications AND skin color because of ignorant fools like you who think that skin color determines qualification and won't even look at other qualified applicants.
You know that.
And if you don't know that.. then YOU'RE not even qualified to respond to this post.
@@BassGuitar4lifeNo all pilots pass the same tests
Roland this some of your best work brother.
All he does is cry whine
@TorreEdwards wrong! Please go watch Candace video. You will see how Roland is very dishonest and tries his hardest to make blk people hate wh people! It’s pretty sad!
@TorreEdwards wrong! Please go watch Candace video. You will see how Roland is very dishonest and tries his hardest to make blk people hate wh people! It’s pretty sad!
@@alslimshady7215…Well, why are you here????
Hates whitey. Full of half truths. Nathan Wade says hi.
When it comes to being responsible for hundreds of lives at one single time, as a pilot is, you best believe you want the most qualified person regardless of their race
Common sense
LOL.
Do we ever question bus drivers? A lot of females and minorities drive bus, place people in their hands.
I love that you have Roland Martin as a guest. Please have him on again and again. He breaks it down so you can understand what's going on. Love it!
Yes but like any profession there's a baseline of qualifications for the jobs.
@@craigman7262 but the government has been watering that down through regulations and requirements/quotas and the airlines and other businesses are flipping themselves into pretzels to make it happen. We’re not racist for pointing these things out. We point these things out because we don’t want people to get hurt or die. We don’t want planes to crash.
Hi Roland,
I am so proud of you..all I can say on the subject is : 😮 if you are walking on a farm and you should encounter a cow patty poop, would you step in it or would you step over so as to avoid it and continue on your wsy.
Similarly thst is exactly how Candicd Owens comments should be treated...don't lower or compromise your dignity as to give her 2 minutes of your precious, informed and educated time.
Again, thanks for all that you do.
Roland Martin is no Joke........ this is an excellent guess on your show Stephen A, this is the versatility that's missing on most Shows💯
Roland is a racist.
As a navy vet, I served on ships with women. When asked to do a task, the women did an outstanding job. And hell yes they were qualified jus like us men
That’s the point………. Qualified!!! These two making everything about race when it’s not actually the issue. The issue is qualified!!! Yes more women and women of color should be allowed to fly commercial planes? But at least be qualified to do it? Once again I believe people clearly misunderstand the point? Especially someone like Candace Owens. And Roland ‘ Move The Goalposts’ Martin is just being ignorant!!!!
As someone who also is a navy vet. That wasn't the point of what Candace Owens said. Nobody thought about this until United said they'd push DEI to 50% empolyee miniorites. When it comes to being responsible for hundreds of lives at one single time, as a pilot , you best believe you want the most qualified person regardless of their race. Now that they dont care about qualifications anymore and only about race, it's scary that theyll just hire people to cehck a box and not the best person for the job.
@Omegateck16 Your comment sounds stupid as h... Dude, no airline company won't hire someone who hasn't received the proper training and qualifications. WTF are you talking about. You realize there's a lot of black mechanics working on those aircraft's. Dummy😅😅😅
I'm also a Navy Electrician Mate Vet and I know plenty of black aircraft mechanics both men and women who performed very well. Not a single plane crashed or malfunction during flight ops.
Thats good for you..again..Im sure there are tons of good minority workers that are pilots..that wasnt the point she made.@@keepitreal1448
I don't fly too often, once every couple of years, once I had a Black Woman pilot, and my first thought was this is so great, way to go.
Man I don't even care. Just get us on time lol
Right? We know what she had to but up with and overcome just to get there! She's a fighter who likely does not give up and has experience getting out of near no win situations lol. Thats the type of person you want behind the sticks when something goes down! (No pun intended!)
Well of course if you know that this black female pilot, or any pilot went through the same wreckers to get hired. But when you have a quota system there’s pressure to qualify people. We see this all through the military and they have to change standards to get enough women qualified simple fitness test.
@59Gretsch so you think an airline would risk the lives if hundreds of people to fill a quota?
Not one black pilot in this report, but you have been conditioned to believe white is right. The total fatalities due to aviation accidents since 1970 is 83,772. The total number of incidents is 11,164. According to ACRO, recent years have been considerably safer for aviation, with fewer than 170 incidents every year between 2009 and 2017, compared to as many as 226 as recently as 1998.
Everytime I think I might've misjudged Candace Owens she says things like this to remind me that I right all along.
I appreciate Stephen A having my brother Roland Martin on. As usual, my brother brought the heat and the truth.
HE 2 MUCH WITH THE DEMS AND DOES NOT CONDEM THERE ANTI BLACK TACTICS.. THE RIGHT AND LEFT ARE BOTH ANTI BLACK.
Me too, as a white guy I love seeing black people live in victimhood, we need people like these brothers to keep black people in that mind set until we get enough illegals in here to replace them
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️
Roland is full of half truths. Fani Willis says hi.
Bro you HAVE to be qualified to fly a plane, do y’all kno how many hours you have to put in flying before you can fly others ? 😂 like of course they gone be qualified smh that’s dumb to even question that
Exactly. I guess some people think Tyrone just came out from driving his Cadillac down the street to the airplane now.😅
Exactly. Candace is a well-spoken moron
@@EnterpriseNCC-1701 I’m saying tho😭 I just feel like they need something to talk about cuz at this point we not thinking logically in the U.S. 😂
Candace knows this she's smart but she also knows that a lot of her followers are not that bright, so they'll believe a lot of the bs she puts out.
How long before they claim that the qualification process is biased and demand the standards be lowered. That's what they are doing in other schools where they are getting rid of standardized testing.
Has anyone ever told her that she's where she's at because they were trying to fill a "quota"
Facts!
But shes not...lol
@@Omegateck16Yes, she is. I don't see any other black people at that network outside of Candace. It's not because of her qualifications because she dropped out of college.
@@TalkinnGrubbinMedia Or mabye its because the only black outspoken conservatives with followings are Candace, Hodge Twins, Officer Tatum..they are all grouped with someone already.
Exactly. She is a black woman running interference for conservatives and white supremacists. It is much easier getting a black women to trash women and black people
Her black behind has been indoctrinated. My cousin was a helicopter pilot inbthe airforce. Became a pilot flying for a major airline and flying most of his flight overseas. He retired some years ago. He showed me a book with all the black pilots flying planes for this airline. I was floored, not because they weren't qualified, its because I didn't know there were that many black pilots. God didn't give white people intelligence, talents, and certain gifts only, he gave it to everyone. Blacks given the opportunity for education and traing, they can do whatever they are given an opportunity to do..
There are plenty of African sisters flying or have been flying from Nigeria, Kenya and Ethiopia and lets not ever forget the greatness of the Tuskegee Airmen the Black Eagle and Bessie Coleman and Eugene Bullard no Tuskeegee Airman was offered a job after the war speak it Roland
Don't forget the Caribbean pilots during WW2.
Bro Ive seen so many black pilots and black female pilots in Africa. Do people not realize the majority of pilots over there are black? How many plane crashes are we hearing about?
Recently a pilot instructor confirmed the qualification standards to become a pilot have been lowered to fill diversity quotas, which he says makes him highly concerned...and he's an aviation instructor. To this, you say what?
And the female pilot Bessie Coleman flew before Amelia Earhart
@@beachlover9705 Yep! And she was the first black individual to pilot an airplane.
As an old white liberal Mr. Marten is on point. I have worked with African American men with the same qualifications as mine and seen them treated differently by our supervisor snd fellow white co workers. I have had private conversations with these men over their treatment but there was very little i could do to help because of the system.
Of course, you would think so. He is not. He is purposefully misleading because it is the only way he stays employed.
And that's where it starts...it takes real conversations with people who are not like you, in order to understand their struggles.
@tombrewsaugh- That is good you have that awareness. I'm a black female Biomedical Engineer. I've faced tremendous racism in my 19 year career. I could write a book. I had to leave Corporate America. I'm now doing consulting and it's much better. I will never go back full-time. The racism took a toll on me. You're right it's a system, and no matter how many degrees, you will never be treated fairly.
I agree with you brother and thank you.
@@kenyafromcali There is empirical data to back up Roland's statements. And the line that he's race-baiting for employment is a tired trope.
When ever Martin showed up he always bring the receipts facts history and the whole nine.
No he don’t🙄
I have a friend that is a robotics engineer. He is now studying to be a pilot. Trust me when I say they not letting any dummy’s fly planes.
As a pilot who's been flying for over 30 years I can attest to the fact that Candace and Charlie are completely wrong. Makes me wonder what else she and her boy are wrong about.🤔
I can't listen to Candace Owen!!!! C'mon, as if Trump wz qualified 2b the President!!!! A part of Trump's anger & why he was SO threatened by Barak Obama was b/c former Barak Obama went to Ivy League University based on his own merit & scholarships, when his daddy had to give extra money to an Ivy League University to get his son, Donald Trump in!!!!
Soooo many things
Exactly
Everything
Anything that comes out their mouth
Candace Owens is Jason Whitlock in a wig.
….and a couple more pounds
@@buckeyewill2166you ain’t lying. Jason Whitlock feeble attempt to drag Steven A Smith on his last memoire, he kept his mouth shut after that.
Jason Shitlock!
Facts!
And Jason is correct. Quit playing victim and worshipping your ethnicity
Love Roland Martin, legend. CNN anchors were always afraid of him....he's highly cultivated, educated, and speaks SENSE and the Truth. Amazing
Thats why they got rid of him.
Ben shapiro owned him lol.
He’s a race hustler….
He’s a race hustler just like SA
Roland Martin is a huge fool and one of the main people pushing the democrat narrative. He’s horrible for the black community
Thank you Roland for telling the truth, nothing but the real deal! Wake up America.
Love this interview! Thank you for the content.
One of the best conversations on this channel for me.
For Her to make that Statement! "She Is A Trained Professional Dumb"🤔Good Content!
Yaaaaa!!! Im so glad to see you guys together about Candy...I cant stand her!!!!!!😮😮😮..Thank You both...Educate all of our people!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great take Gentlemen, the legendary Bessie Coleman who became the 1st Licensed International Female African American Pilot ✈️ on June 15th 1921 is looking down smiling on you both! Keep up the Good work!
Yes! I actually thought of Bessie Coleman as I watched this. I taught elementary school students (predominantly white/Caucasian) in two schools about this brave and exceptional Black/American Indian/Indigenous/African American woman. They loved learning about her. The first person to ever hold an International pilot’s license and she had to learn French in order to accomplish that. ✈️
Powerful conversation!
The black ppl defending Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and justifying their prejudices makes me quite sad. I love my brothers and sisters, but man ppl will spit right in our face and some of us will say that it's just raining outside. Stated simply, no matter how hard I work, no matter how credentialed or certified I am, none of that matters because I am a black man. They cant see my skills or talents just by looking at me, yet they can see my skin color. Because I'm black, Charlie Kirk's default response is to assume that I'm not qualified. Candace Owens saw the same clip we did, and did ninja gymnastics to come to the conclusions that she would have the same feeling if she say a woman flying. She's pretty much saying "His racism is okay because I'm slightly sexist myself."
I promise it's not rain outside guys. Much love everyone 🙏🏿
These types of KGs are sellouts 🦝
these black people supporting this false narrative will find themselves jobless and homeless.
Denzel Washington said. "If you are looking for an excuse. You'll find one
So it's the pencils fault ! Sounds like the same excuse democrats have about guns.
The fear began when we were no longer slaves. We showed just how strong a people we were, which wasn’t expected. We began to thrive, and in many instances surpass. This is what started movement to keep us from becoming the powerhouse we are capable of becoming. For those that don’t know, back in 1898, this country had it’s first stolen election in Wilmington NC. The end result was the writing of the White Man’s Declaration of Independence; which includes a statement declaring that whites will never answer to a person of color. What started then in Wilmington, filtered throughout the south, and started the suppression of blacks. The laws and rules were written to ensure we had no fare opportunities to grow as a people, and to ensure we could always be considered, less than. The problem then and throughout history, right up until today, is that whenever we are truly and fairly given the opportunity, we absolutely kill it! A level playing field for many against equality, means those that were considered less than, often times show up as equal to, or better than. That’s the fear!
Black media needs to continue this cross collaboration to isolate and call out grifters like Owens and Whitlock
Grifters are these people like Al sharp and these guys right here get out of the plantation already they are playing you for suckers 😊
Roland Martin is the biggest sellout to black people. He is a paid Democrat shill
So since they think differently than you they’re grifters 😂
@jonnyboy44 Correct
@Jonnyboy44 Correct
Roland is right, when I board a plane, I dont think about color, as long as I see those wings im good
Candace said she's starting to care because of diversity hires. Putting aside the truth of that claim, would you care more about skin color if you thought that was happening?
I love Roland Martin! He be on his sh📚 t ! 🥰
Always has receipts!
Had a white woman pilot a few weeks ago and a black male pilot the first time I flew to Jamaica. Got to both places safely with no problems…..
Recently a pilot instructor confirmed the qualification standards to become a pilot have been lowered to fill diversity quotas, which he says makes him highly concerned...and he's an aviation instructor. To this, you say what?
@@HypnoticHollywood Which quota? To include rednecks?
Sources?
@@HypnoticHollywoodI say that shouldn’t happen we need same standards… can you tell me what things they lowered?
And. Not the point. If you enact quotas then you will ruin the reputation of people who are in fact qualified.
Thank you Stephen for having Roland S Martin to respond to this Charlie Kirk false assertion of Black people’s capability. I agree with Roland’s response 💯 %. Great Conversation.
Thank you for having Roland S. Martin on Stephen. I watch and listen to him daily and appreciate his voice in media.
I love the show. Keep the soaring.🚀
Bring her own your show and let’s see how she articulates her points.
she's a punk. she will no come. she wants to debate AOC but not Roland Martin.
100% right - how did he get this job. Countless times I’ve experienced working with some “person” not colored or female that had a position that was clearly over their head and we don’t ask that when we see them, instead we disparage the black, Latino, female etc and question if they got a pass cause of Inclusivity.
I've said this before on another social media platform, I've never once asked myself that when boarding a plane and I've flown numerous times and over international waters
What i think about while getting on a plane is:
• is the AC on
• hope the charging plug works
• what movie am i going to watch
• better not sit next to a young child
• why tf was the pilot late and boards first 😆
• we better not late or too early
• AND i better be able to sleep
Like wtf some people think too into shit OR maybe i don't overthink into shit enough...
Roland Martin is always on point when it comes to African-Americans and their accomplishments. Thank God for rolling Martin .
Thank you for bringing this up
Great session!! Need more of this black men supporting and lifting each other up on each other's platforms!! We have always done it but to see it is worth rewriting the lies the media always puts out about us 💪🏾
@George-pq3en it’s sad so many people don’t do there own research and realize Candace didn’t say anything what he said! Go watch her video! Then call this r man out! The world doesn’t need all this hate today!
@user-od5sh1ck5g exactly! how anybody can possibly take Roland Martin seriously is beyond me the guy is unhinged
Two of the best TV and talk show host
This is a GREAT combination..SAS and Roland Martin!!! Hopefully you two create a recurring segment together!!!!
I was surprised and happy to see Roland on Steven's show. I didn't think SAS would talk to Roland, so glad i am wrong.
Yeah great combination crying whining cry babies
@@alslimshady7215but you’re crying all throughout this comment section…
I flew American Airlines to the resort where I had my wedding and the pilot was a Hispanic woman and she was AWESOME with getting us to our destination quickly and smoothly. So Candace is freaking lying and is a talking head.
What Charlie and Candace said made me physically sick. DEI is about peeling away the barriers that QUALIFIED people face due to bias in hiring. It is not the hiring of unqualified people. But when you don’t know how things work and are blind to the bias that exists, you just fill in the gaps with your own prejudice.
Lol then how do you explain Marc DEI Cuban?
Lol..u buy whatever they be selling u huh?
These people don’t understand they would not have a job an adornment or hell access to allot of things if it wasn’t dei
@@TheForkOnTheLeftist What is to explain?
@@ToneFury Well I’ve been a hiring manager for 20 years spanning 2 companies w a combined total of 120,000 employees. But no, yeah, I probably have no experience with DEI initiatives and hiring practices. Probably definitely go with Charlie Kirk who appears to have extensive experience with diversity. 👍🏻
Most airline pilots are former military pilots. That have 10s of thousands of flight hours as well as.combat experience. They are very qualified.
I love Smith and Martin.....SO DAMN SMART....love them!!!
Martin yes nit stephen who was caught speaking well of trump. So he suspect to me.
How stephen supported President Obama and have something good about trump.
People are only questioning qualifications because they CEO came out and said they are hiring people based on DEI. If they never said that then no one would question it.
This conversation should always include the nepotism stranglehold
How so? Perhaps you didn’t hear Stephen in his latest video where he goes off on Adams! Listen again my friend! He mentions how he forgave Biden for his senator years! So many blk people don’t even know the truth! You’re all blinded by colors! Do your research and learn about the 3strike law! Learn what B called blk children! Wake up! @@schoc13
I love Roland, he doesn’t back down, he called Candice on her BS!
I am a Mexican and I can assure you I want the pilot with the best qualifications hands down regardless of race.
And these yt folk doing their job if u think companies don't do their best to make that happen...like they want lawsuits because they just moving people along😅
Preach brother. It has nothing to do with race. Diversity hires are dangerous!
You snuck across the border. You don't know about planes.
But what Candace doesn't understand, is that under DEI, you have to be QUALIFIED.
Great episode Stephen A we need more Roland
lol.. sure he loves to preach hate and keep wh and blk divided. How anyone can listen to so much hate is disturbing. Remember he gets paid very well to manipulate you!
Man, I got mad love for BROTHERS LIKE THESE 2, that can bring opposed views to a conversation WITHOUT NEGATIVITY geared towards one another. Respect to u two brothers for being a great example
WE have to vote for Biden black folk.Trump had no black folk in his Whitehouse.Biden put in first black VP.First black supreme court justice.Biden put in black secretary of defense.Im voting for Biden again.
Great interview 🎉🎉🎉
Candance wants to bring up DEI, what makes her think she's not a DEI
“Moment not a MOVEMENT” really touched me - Roland/Stephen/Joe Madison/Clay Cane/L Daniels/Karen Hunter/Tabatha…. many more- thank you all for keeping us informed/aware - PRAY and VOTE
Have they informed you that they are rich; and play on the uniformed to keep them in their current positions.
Have they informed any of you that you will be 5th Class Citizens soon b/c they’re cool w/ the immigration laws & policies which will eventually effect the average citizen… Not the RICH but the less than middle tier population…
You guys need to wake up immediately from this ILLUSION & SLAVE PLANTATION.
I loved every min of this interview!! Great points and examples were made gotta have you 2️⃣ together again Steven A
Following the conversation from Kenya. We've had black women pilots flying the latest and largest commercial passenger aircraft, for decades. So have our neighbors Ethiopia. I've been thinking about the affirmative action conversations I've been seeing in the US. I think a diverse set of life experiences (places, people, corporations, communities etc) would help people appreciate the complexities in human psychology and society more, and therefore have better judgement regarding what is required for stable, thriving societies. If that doesn't happen, people will be constantly battling the consequences. I can give an example of say, mining companies I've seen around the world. If those companies see things simplistically as them doing their business and not considering their interactions with the communities around them, there are often problems that hurt those companies' bottom lines in the long run. I'm trying to say something indirectly.
You seem to not understand the challenge. There are not enough supply of Females or minorities who are A. Insterested in aviation B. Able to complete training without standards relaxed. If there is a supply shortage, how do you get more of those you need to check the box? How?
@@59Gretsch
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*Which of these standards have been dropped or relaxed?*
@@59GretschI’ll answer that for him:
By taking people into any job positions by any means necessary.
If the objective is to be diverse, equitable, and inclusive, then the objective requirements don’t apply as primary principles for employment anymore. What is of primary importance is that we “help” and “appeal” to people who haven’t been able to make the bar of job qualifications, and we do so by discriminating against those who meet and/or exceed the job qualifications in question.
@@59Gretsch In Kenya we've not had to lower any bar and I wouldn't like that whatsoever. In better managed societies, the supply side is cultivated. We can do much better on that in Kenya, but we do have public high schools teaching aviation, with students interacting with real aircraft for 4 years, and some of them going on to become pilots, aeronautical engineers, technicians etc. That helps bridge an undeniable gap that can be attributed to economic opportunities. Things like that is how supply is built. Of course, different sets of people will be able interested in/incline to different things. What's important is that they have an opportunity.
@@panafrican.nation Thanks for the comments.
Got to gave it to roland martin , he knows his shit .