Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee (w-subtitles) - Chief Sitting Bull & Colonel Nelson Miles
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2018
- The 'Tribal' Americans...
Innocent, pipe-smoking, tree-hugging, peace-loving hippies?
Or just as warlike, savage & opportunistic as the rest of us?
August Schellenberg (Sitting Bull) & Shaun Johnston (Col. Nelson Miles)
The Comanche were the most dominant tribe in American history. They didn’t get the most vast land by being diplomats. They did it by force.
Same with the Lakota, Apache, Cherokee, and others. You didn't make a mark on history without being willing to spill a LOT of blood and do it fairly often.
Violence solves plenty
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc that is why white people came on top. we are smart, we looked, listened and learned very well!
@@briancami1410 whites are the only ones supposed to feel guilt
The Comanche did it on horseback, a non native animal to the western hemisphere. They mastered the art of fighting while mounted, and that's only when their breakthrough happened. Fierce enemy of the Apache during that time.
One of many aspects to the story that typically gets lost in the PC version of history is the natives who fought on the side of the Europeans and later, the Americans, against their historic tormentors in other tribes. They had waited generations for some payback against those tribes which had killed, raped, and enslaved their people and taken their land, until there finally arrived an ally powerful enough to make it happen.
They did all those things to eachother. There were no saints in America.
Just as WE have conquered YOU for NO LESS noble a cause.
@MM 20 Trying WAYYY too hard bro.
Lmfaoooo. Stfu... just as your ppl say, "we werent there at the time, what does it have to do with us?" Gtfo.😂
@@myingunmeekis9563 Oh piss off! Your guys got beat and we did to you what you did to others before. Turnabout is fair play!
@@GentlemanJack295 yeah no, that's not what happend. You guys say that shit so you dont feel bad about genocide and death.... keep telling yourself that.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@GentlemanJack295 "got beat" there was treaties put in place, that your people couldnt understand.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Curiosity, exploration, prosperity, greed, conquest, violence; these are all human traits. Regardless of race or gender. Over every continent, over every ounce of land that has more than two people on it, they have taken from someone else.
People don't realize what a sordid, barbaric affair human history has been. Everywhere that there have been people, there has been rape, exploitation, war, massacres, slavery, and every other vile expression of human nature. It's easy from a position of 21st century affluence to make one group all heroes, and another group all villains, but history isn't so simple.
All groups, nationalities, creeds, and ethnicities have had honorable characters among them, and all likewise have engaged in and practiced every evil under the sun.
Technically, even with an ounce of land with ONE person on it. It was taken...regardless of whether it was from someone else or not.
The notion that it hasn't is even more fanciful than the one Sitting Bull had there with the Colonel.
Show name is Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee
The reality is this: NO ONE sprouted up from the ground in any land.
It's the nature of humans to explore, migrate, settle and conquer new
territory. Unless you can prove no one else EVER occupied what you call
"your land" for all of human history, then you must answer, "Who was
there BEFORE you?" The ONLY thing that entitles anyone to any land is
1.) Their ability to acquire it through settlement or conquest and 2.)
how long they can keep it. That's how ALL living creatures assume and
hold territory. North America belonged to the Amerindians until it
didn't...and it belonged to someone BEFORE them until it didn't.
Bro you spitting straight facts! Theres proof of Indians migrating here from the covered land bridge (obviously not covered back then) between Russia and Alaska, so theres no way of telling who was first here. People get upset over nothing since this is all of human history is conquering lands (Rome Greece, napoleon's France, Hitler, etc.) No matter the reason it is human history and I appreciate the other comment that really goes in debt 👍🏻
Spoken well. It’s tragic, but then again it’s human. Our global history is littered with similar tragedies, why should this be any more unique or different
Bang on
In fairness encouraging cuckery in our peoeple is no less valid a path to power than conquering theirs through superior technology and tactics.
A pleasure to see a balanced story of the conflict between the Army and the Sioux not the biased BS from Little Big Man and Dances with Wolves.
the gold old days of truth and sticking with your own kind! Only a distant memory and a hopeful dream of the future
Nelson Appleton Miles ~ Dates of "General Officer" ranks: Brigadier General {1 Star}, Regular Army, 15 December 1880
/ Major General {2 Star}, Regular Army, 5 April 1890/ Lieutenant General {3 Star}, Regular Army, 6 June 1900. General Miles was a MajGen {MG} when he met Sitting Bull, not a COL. Great Movie & THANK YOU for the video!
He met with Sitting Bull in 1876, while holding the rank of Colonel. The resulting battle of this meeting was the Battle of Cedar Creek, which happened on October 21, 1876.
Live by the sword; die by the sword.
based.
Well, the Iroquois almost destroyed the Hurons and other tribes, the Sioux harassed and almost destroyed the Mandans (after they were weakened by small pox), then they stole the land of the Crow; the Apache chased off or destroyed other tribes in the South West of Texas, and they constantly harassed the Pueblos, and the Comanche did the same to the Plains Apache, and so on, and so on. The only difference to the conquering whites is that some Indians are better at whining and feigning. And the romantics believe that hypocritical nonsense.
Didn't some other tribes actually help early english settlers to fight against the Iroquois out of their own free will because of how much the Iroquois were massacring the other tribes? I think I remember that little tidbit from some history lesson.
Well clearly white influence, tech and illness, and settlement was a destructive power in the New World
@@richlisola1 Humanity was a destructive power
@@AZIONG651 yes, the smaller tribes who lost their lands finally found a powerful ally when the Europeans came. They wanted revenge on the other tribes
@@richlisola1 Yeah, that big bad medicine and electricity. /rolleyes
We are all grateful everything turned out for the best, and there is no more animosity.
Are you native American?
LMFAAAAOOOOOOOOO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jaybartgis5148 I'm 30% Mexican Indian. Does that count?
A people should know when they're conquered
Would you? Would I?
When your enemy has you completely surrounded but offers you an olive branch to save your people. That is when you should know you are defeated.
@@thecleaner8442 gladiator quote you dunce
@@totallynotalpharius2283 so?
It sure feels that way with the dwindling Caucasian population
@@jaybartgis5148 boo hoo
This obviously couldn't be expressed in this soy latte of a decade.
too bad they never learned to forge metal or make gun powder
Or the wheel
or matchsticks.
They just traded for or stole what they needed.
Some truth for once.
its called
Both parties have valid arguments. It was/is a complicated situation where there were wrongs on both sides. The Lakota situation was probably the least sympathetic of all the Native American injustices.
To be fair... and respectfully... no they don't. That's not a value judgement... just an accuracy statement. Sitting Bull throws out hypocritical talking point after talking point. Custer calls out the hypocrisy of each argument. At no point does Custer state that the white man was "right", or "justified", or "more deserving". He just points out that the American conquest of the Indians is the same process occurring for the same reasons that every other war through the millennia has unfolded. Sitting Bull had no answer for any one of Custer's challenges. In this case... only Custer had the valid argument... because only Custer objectively conveyed the truth of human nature.
@@RedWest2010 That wasn't Custer. That was Nelson Miles (who ironically couldn't stand Custer). You are just assessing the situation based on this brief, scripted, argument in a movie written by white men. If you want to have a legit discussion about this topic, I am all in. I just don't want to waste time if your arguments are based on a movie or if you aren't interested. I spent a lifetime studying this and it is extremely complicated, and circumstances differ between tribes. It's tough to address on social media but if you want to, I am always up for discussing it.
check out bury my heart at wounded knee.it called tribalism.
Only 3 percent of America was populated,there was no legal system or legal claim to the land ,,Indians did not believe they could own land..No law was broken by settlers coming to this continent
Funny how they didn't believe they could own land until they got conquered and decided to be hypocritical and claim the land belonged to them to try and sound like noble savages
If we’re gonna give back Native Americans their “lands” let also be fair and demand that
The Turks return Thrace and parts of Asia Minor to Greece and Armenia and also recognize that they admit they committed Genocide against the latter.
Russia return Kaliningrad to Germany and leave the Caucasus, Siberia and other areas where non Russian ethnic groups once lived or live
China leave Tibetan lands and not claim Taiwan as part of the mainland
The UK return the Falklands to Argentina and leave Northern Ireland.
Denmark leave Greenland
List could go on but it points just a few examples.
@@JF-bv6vc And Japan go back to mainland China and give the island back to the ainu!
They were conquered by a superior tribe. Which happened to be white.
@@thecleaner8442 behind all tribes is a god, all is being decided by gods.
Native Americans were warriors too. not victims. But a new company moved in and played the game of imperialism better. it was unfortunately the way things were in ancient times. Can we give each other a pass and co-exist instead?
You also have to give Americans credit, white and non-white for protecting the lands of Asians. South Korea, Taiwan, Philippines, etc.
Sitting Bull was a badass
Stubborn
Heh. Yeah. Look... I respect a guy who'd rather go down fighting than be conquered... absolutely. But the man already knew his people were conquered. Instead of going peacefully, he led a band of 3,000 to wipe out Custer's battalion of 200. And after that "brave and incredible victory", he went on to wage war on the remaining army and went down swinging, right?
No. He ran like a bitch to Canada and hid... he watched his people starve... he then surrendered and got his ass stuck on a reservation... and was ultimately shot in the head by another Indian. Quite the badass.
@@RedWest2010 you are a badass
people should know when they're conquered
The debate was worth having, but is there any evidence Miles actually had this debate with Sitting Bull? There is evidence they met, negotiated, attempted to avoid conflict, but I cannot find evidence that any such debate took place.
No. it's dramatized. and not meant to be history. But the sentiments are true. Native Americans were warriors too, not prey. However, a new group moved in and played the game of imperialism better.
@@tnndll4294if only the Indians could have got along. They were too busy fighting each other.
Killing Custer was satisfying but it pretty much cooked our goose. Too bad .It was a good way of life. I guess I better go mow the yard now.
Was it worth it? You have lawns on the rez? Watch the diabetes and alcoholism.
Don't drink too much shampoo, bruh
@@ClintEastwoodenDoors watch the firewater kemosabe
Not so sure it was a good way of life. Getting attacked constantly by waring tribes sounds exhausting
An incorrect idea of another is incorrect regardless of whether it is perceived as insulting or flattering
We all live on conquered land. It seems you live in a conquered mind.
havent a clue what that is supposed to mean
I'm horrified by the anti-Indigenous sentiments in the comments section.
@Sebastian Canales Why not? American christians (usually white) get triggered by people saying happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas. Or upset because people don't stand up and worship a stupid flag. That's over emotionalism for your azz.
@Sebastian Canales Actually, I am Inuit. Please stop assuming.
@Sebastian Canales war is war, but what isn't okay is the genocide, forcible sterilization, residential schools, and taking away the culture of native peoples.
@Ray Riley And promptly exterminated all the megafauna.
@Ray Riley they are indigenous. indigenous means ur the first to settle a land. by your logic, nobody is indigenous to Europe or Asia