I am a aspiring PMP. I have over a decade of experience (but not following the exact PMBOK). I think PMI standards are great and I look at the PMP like a college degree. Its not guaranteed to get you a job but its proof that you know the subject matter
Great video. I always looked at the cert, not only as a proof of "journey-level" experience, but a tool to achieve the interview. Selling yourself is on you. Love this.
Isn't this the same for a college degree or any other training certification? When has any of these ever fully qualified someone for a specific role? Degrees and certifications indicate that the individual has foundational knowledge. In my experience working with many project and program managers on multiple multimillion-dollar projects, I've observed that they often lack an understanding of basic project management and stakeholder engagement. Given this, I would rather hire a PMP rookie who is eager to learn than someone with years of experience but limited understanding.
Such a great explanation on PMP Certification. In short Certification will add value in your career, if you really learnt & applied skills in your PM Job.🎉
Great explanation, PMP is not worthless but unrealistic expectations should be avoided. Most people just mug up and pass, instead of practicing its concepts ....
I agree with you 1000% , I have seen the similar situation at my current Job ,people lack the experience and even when asking some very basic questions ( some of them cannot even answer those) Interviewers are smart they will know right away if you are just making up things. I saw at least 8 recent candidates who got dropped and never even made it to the second interview.
I have come across pmp certification holder who passed the exam. But have less or no project management experience. Today you can get help passing the pmp with organization who help you pass by teaching you a system how to pass. You can write the pmp with learning the pmp mind set and probably pass the exams.
Thanks for posting this. The big takeaway here is that there aren’t any shortcuts to a highly successful career. It takes a lot of hard work and time to make it. Be humble, have an open mind, and try to learn as much as you can. It will all be worth it if you approach your career preparation this way.
I agree I have interviewed project managers for my team and I can pretty much call out the ones that are book trained/ focused or actually have world world experience. The PMP tells me they have knowledge, but not the experience sometimes like I had someone who was a wedding planner to go into a IT PM role... Unfortunately I know she qualified but doesn't mean it can all transfer over
So if someone doesn't have the real world experience, how do they get that experience if nobody wants to give them a chance? lol pretty much sums up the job market.
@@jay____l you shouldn’t be able to take or sit for the PMP without proven experience. You start from the bottom, getting experience and then move into those roles that requires a certification..
@@GregDalinYes, but not everyone can get assigned projects at their jobs to lead these initiatives, unless they are a project manager. I've been lucky to be part of projects where I've been involved in various aspects of the process groups, but haven't led every single project. In an interview, this would probably be a red flag because I and many other aspirants haven't led from start to finish on every project like what all these hiring managers expect.
@@jay____l I got hired as a PM for a software development company. I utilized my prior experience in Management and a coding bootcamp certification (knowledge of software development lifecycle workflows) to get my foot in the door. I learned the PM trade the hard way, but in the end persevered and delivered 4 projects in my 3+ years at my current employer. Now, with the perspective gained in my practical work experience, I am now in a position to take this certification, with my employer covering the cost to join the profession as a PMP certified Project Manager.
Thank you for taking the initiative to make such a video. I am working as a Quality Analyst in a support center and indirectly a part of Project Management and i have over all experience of 7 years. Do you think PMP is beneficial ?
Ray, I think you are spot on! I sat by an employee who got past the interview phase and got hired on as a project manager in my organization. You can tell he had no practical PM skils or business accumen. We were also connected on Linkedin and I dicovered that he didn't have any PM experience in his background! It kind of makes you wonder how he was able to get his application approved so he could sit for the exam!
I know several people who have the PMP certification with no degree and were hired because of the basic knowledge obtained from passing the exam. Companies will give you a chance if you truly have the desire and passion to become a PM. Most experience in any industry is gained on the job! PMP certification is extremely valuable today and will be for a long time!
PMBOK is more like giving you the knowledge and Strategy of a Project Managers. But it's up to you that how you are executing the PM Skills in real life which is more important than anything else. 😊
Hi Ray, Thanks for this honest and surprisingly good video. I just clicked out of curiosity. I am a preparing for a PMP exam - well not in a hurry - and there are two reasons. #1: I am applying for a job that requires the certification as preferred. #2: It is useful to speak the same language with other PMs. I have experienced some misunderstandings in the past due to different PM "schools" and experience background of PMO members and a lot of time was spent just with clarification of terms and expressions. I want to avoid this in my new position. By the way, I find the PMBOK and the other material providing the knowledge for the exam quite useful. Congrats, this is a good video. 👏 I fully agree that a piece of paper will neither do the job for one, nor substitute the required experience.
You didn't understand the reason for certifications. It is to make the life of recruiters who don't understand the to-be-filled job easier - not to learn something. If you want to learn something, you just take a course, read a book, gain real life experience. You don't need a certification for this.
However, PMP is mentioned as an asset in many open PM positions. I believe it is the most recognized certification related to project management when applying for jobs.
Absolutely Candid explanation Sir. Same things happen in the interview. Any skill has value, if it is implemented rather than only seen in the certification. It will be atleast good to say truth that they do not have experience and need some project management experience and that's why they are joining that organisation
The number one issue I have is relevant work experience as a PM. I have years of PM experience managing complex projects in the public sector at a nonprofit, but nothing that is relatable to tech. Do you have any suggestions?
Can you please add on explanation about How to switch to managerial positions from Technical background having 10 years of experience into IT Industry.
PMP certification proves you can read a few books and make a D or above on multiple choice test. What else does it prove? That you are a good project manager? No.
Basis commonsense prevails over any costly certification, real job requirements and intake depends on various parameters like salary, experience of candidates fit into job etc...for reference we can go through all PMP jargons...what matters how we manage
I am a aspiring PMP. I have over a decade of experience (but not following the exact PMBOK). I think PMI standards are great and I look at the PMP like a college degree. Its not guaranteed to get you a job but its proof that you know the subject matter
Thank you for sharing your veiwpoint :)
Great video. I always looked at the cert, not only as a proof of "journey-level" experience, but a tool to achieve the interview. Selling yourself is on you. Love this.
Glad it was helpful!
We need more people like you on RUclips. This is what is required for any aspirant.
Many thanks for your comment!
Isn't this the same for a college degree or any other training certification? When has any of these ever fully qualified someone for a specific role? Degrees and certifications indicate that the individual has foundational knowledge. In my experience working with many project and program managers on multiple multimillion-dollar projects, I've observed that they often lack an understanding of basic project management and stakeholder engagement. Given this, I would rather hire a PMP rookie who is eager to learn than someone with years of experience but limited understanding.
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Such a great explanation on PMP Certification.
In short Certification will add value in your career, if you really learnt & applied skills in your PM Job.🎉
Thanks for sharing!
Great explanation, PMP is not worthless but unrealistic expectations should be avoided. Most people just mug up and pass, instead of practicing its concepts ....
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That's how reality needs to be communicated! No sugarcoating!
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I agree with you 1000% , I have seen the similar situation at my current Job ,people lack the experience and even when asking some very basic questions ( some of them cannot even answer those) Interviewers are smart they will know right away if you are just making up things. I saw at least 8 recent candidates who got dropped and never even made it to the second interview.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
This is an excellent breakdown of ways pmp wont change a life. Thanks
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I have come across pmp certification holder who passed the exam. But have less or no project management experience. Today you can get help passing the pmp with organization who help you pass by teaching you a system how to pass. You can write the pmp with learning the pmp mind set and probably pass the exams.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint.
Hi I've passed my PMP exams and your videos and simulator on Udemy contributed alot to this success story. Thank you very much
Thank you and many congratulations!
True. Never used or ask to get. Reason... The PMP curriculum and painstaking test has NOTHING to due with day-to-day work as a project manager.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts :)
Thanks for posting this. The big takeaway here is that there aren’t any shortcuts to a highly successful career. It takes a lot of hard work and time to make it. Be humble, have an open mind, and try to learn as much as you can. It will all be worth it if you approach your career preparation this way.
Glad it was helpful!
I agree I have interviewed project managers for my team and I can pretty much call out the ones that are book trained/ focused or actually have world world experience. The PMP tells me they have knowledge, but not the experience sometimes like I had someone who was a wedding planner to go into a IT PM role... Unfortunately I know she qualified but doesn't mean it can all transfer over
Many thanks for sharing your pov.
So if someone doesn't have the real world experience, how do they get that experience if nobody wants to give them a chance? lol pretty much sums up the job market.
@@jay____l you shouldn’t be able to take or sit for the PMP without proven experience. You start from the bottom, getting experience and then move into those roles that requires a certification..
@@GregDalinYes, but not everyone can get assigned projects at their jobs to lead these initiatives, unless they are a project manager. I've been lucky to be part of projects where I've been involved in various aspects of the process groups, but haven't led every single project.
In an interview, this would probably be a red flag because I and many other aspirants haven't led from start to finish on every project like what all these hiring managers expect.
@@jay____l I got hired as a PM for a software development company. I utilized my prior experience in Management and a coding bootcamp certification (knowledge of software development lifecycle workflows) to get my foot in the door. I learned the PM trade the hard way, but in the end persevered and delivered 4 projects in my 3+ years at my current employer. Now, with the perspective gained in my practical work experience, I am now in a position to take this certification, with my employer covering the cost to join the profession as a PMP certified Project Manager.
Thank you for taking the initiative to make such a video. I am working as a Quality Analyst in a support center and indirectly a part of Project Management and i have over all experience of 7 years. Do you think PMP is beneficial ?
Ray, I think you are spot on! I sat by an employee who got past the interview phase and got hired on as a project manager in my organization. You can tell he had no practical PM skils or business accumen. We were also connected on Linkedin and I dicovered that he didn't have any PM experience in his background! It kind of makes you wonder how he was able to get his application approved so he could sit for the exam!
I know several people who have the PMP certification with no degree and were hired because of the basic knowledge obtained from passing the exam. Companies will give you a chance if you truly have the desire and passion to become a PM. Most experience in any industry is gained on the job! PMP certification is extremely valuable today and will be for a long time!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
PMBOK is more like giving you the knowledge and Strategy of a Project Managers. But it's up to you that how you are executing the PM Skills in real life which is more important than anything else. 😊
Hi Ray,
Thanks for this honest and surprisingly good video. I just clicked out of curiosity.
I am a preparing for a PMP exam - well not in a hurry - and there are two reasons. #1: I am applying for a job that requires the certification as preferred. #2: It is useful to speak the same language with other PMs. I have experienced some misunderstandings in the past due to different PM "schools" and experience background of PMO members and a lot of time was spent just with clarification of terms and expressions. I want to avoid this in my new position.
By the way, I find the PMBOK and the other material providing the knowledge for the exam quite useful.
Congrats, this is a good video. 👏 I fully agree that a piece of paper will neither do the job for one, nor substitute the required experience.
Thank you for watching and commenting! And yes, best wishes for your exam!
Very true, I personally know resources who never had a day of project management experience and took the exam.
Thank you for your comment.
Genuine video I would say. Truth prevails
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You didn't understand the reason for certifications. It is to make the life of recruiters who don't understand the to-be-filled job easier - not to learn something. If you want to learn something, you just take a course, read a book, gain real life experience. You don't need a certification for this.
However, PMP is mentioned as an asset in many open PM positions. I believe it is the most recognized certification related to project management when applying for jobs.
Hello, yes it is!
Absolutely Candid explanation Sir. Same things happen in the interview. Any skill has value, if it is implemented rather than only seen in the certification. It will be atleast good to say truth that they do not have experience and need some project management experience and that's why they are joining that organisation
Exactly! Thank you for watching and commenting!
Mr. Ray, Please tell what is the solution then to be an efficient PM
I got clarity now. Thank you for sharing this relevant piece of practical advice.
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Good information. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Very good and clarifying video!
Glad it was helpful!
It took me 8 months preparation to pass pmp exam in first attempt.
Better late than ever! Keep it up!
The number one issue I have is relevant work experience as a PM. I have years of PM experience managing complex projects in the public sector at a nonprofit, but nothing that is relatable to tech. Do you have any suggestions?
You should look out for opportunities in public sector at a non-profit because that is where your opportunity will be valued the most.
I liked the discussion
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You are right. I accept
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Can you please add on explanation about How to switch to managerial positions from Technical background having 10 years of experience into IT Industry.
Stay tuned!
Thanks for sharing the insights... really helpful..
Glad you like them!
PMP certification proves you can read a few books and make a D or above on multiple choice test. What else does it prove? That you are a good project manager? No.
Yes, but theoretical knowledge is necessary before doing well practically.
Basis commonsense prevails over any costly certification, real job requirements and intake depends on various parameters like salary, experience of candidates fit into job etc...for reference we can go through all PMP jargons...what matters how we manage
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Totally correct
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Sir please also guide who are the potential candidates for Lean Six Sigma Green Belt ?
I am maintenance guy. Can I apply for PMP for job change?
I failed it three times so I don’t care
Well made video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Factual POV, if a person doing supporting roles in the Project, is she still eligible to sit an exam?
Unfortunately, not. You need to be in project lead/PM roles.
Great
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Well said 👌💯💯
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Well explained.
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For PmP certification renewal, can i claim IIM-B certification certificate...? Please guide me
Unfortunately, not.
Thank you for your guidance
Does PMP certification help in getting entry-level project management jobs?
You need to have 3 years project management experience to even apply for the test.