She is so overprotective that she purposefully tried to stunt him, and worse she partly succeeded. She wanted to keep him helpless so he won't try to help anyone. This is actually a very common type of abuse especially from mothers.
@@Red-ux2ff I'm an adult now with my own son and the rest of my family is aware of what she does. I go to them and talk about it and they basically scold her to stop. And she still treats me like a child from time to time and would say "I can't do anything right" BUT she still goes and asks me to do stuff for her. She says I talk shit to my brother and sister about her but I tell her "If you don't want me talking shit about you then stop acting like shit" a few days ago I actually yelled at her "you're a real dumb piece of shit you know that". I feel like I matured enough to make better decisions then she can. I actually remember when I got Strep throat she said the only way to cure it is by taking a QTip and scraping off the white puss areas and then gargling lots of water. Then she sent me back to school and that was it. I did not learn that there was pills that cured Strep throat until I was like maybe 14 or 15 years old. I always thought it was strange why I kept getting Strep throat but my siblings never did. My mom says it's because I don't brush my teeth enough and I'm dirty. I stopped asking my mom for help or advice and started to depend on my older brother, Aunt, or grandfather after that. But I'm an adult now and that was in the past. I'm 30 years old.
Levitate to be more accurate, though the prerequisite seems like he also needs 3 limbs like he is on the ground. His base speed should also be as fast as a bicycle, though using his shoot ability would also be usable as a makeshift booster skill.
@@jled787 In the new volume, we find out he doesn't actually need three limbs; he can do it with one or two. He just has a habit of doing it in a more stable position.
Yeah when koichi got donuted straight through the chest by a guy with a humanoid cat as a quirk who just wanted to live a quiet life and also got kidnapped by a psychopath school girl that had controllable hair as a quirk who just wanted to have koichi to herself I felt bad for the dude
But a wacky marine biologist calls him reliable, so he goes to Italy to meet with the gang member who is the son of a british vampire that the marine biologist killed.
@@miracleofburst6057 No he is not. But due to the recent vigilantes chapter it sounds like he will die by the end of the series. It's a new theory going around.
I just recently read these chapters and I automatically got a weitd vibe from her. Yes she is definitely a mom trope for manga but most of her words didn't seem like a joke. She just kept dissing Kouichi every time she talked about him; even kept asking Makoto to join the family to replace Kouichi. I'm all for family using dark humor to joke with each other but I didnt get that feeling from her. she admited to constantly slapping a baby who was floating in the air. Now I'm not an expert on parenting nor do I like children but I'm sure that's not something you should do to a baby. She may have good intentions but I also feel like her actions had a big impact on Kouichi's mind set. Not only his quirk but his personality/attitude as well. He's a pretty laid back guy who doesnt get angry often. He takes hate and beatings daily and doesn't get mad but if a friend or someone he liked was talked about it on the other end of that fist he'd get upset. For example when Captqin celebrity was hating on All Might and signed Kouichi's all might hoodie. Even at the mixer Kouichi didn't know how to fit in so he just laughed politely keeping to himself the first half of the night.
I mean honestly the trope of women hitting the guys in anime isn't funny at all unless the guy deserved it like trying to perv on her or something. No one should be putting their hands on anyone regardless of gender or age. Parents shouldn't be slapping their kids around, kids shouldn't be trying to hit their parents, friends shouldn't be punching or kicking one another, boyfriends shouldn't be hurting girlfriends and vice versa and same for other relationships. Its played for laughs but in reality its extremely fucked up, especially since at times the guy gets hit for nothing. I remember one anime where the guy would get beat up for complete misunderstandings, I think the anime was Love Hina. Also recall seeing a moment of Inyuasha where because he wanted chips over Kagome's cooking, she abused the necklace around him to constantly slam him into the ground and was happy when the necklace was back on him just so she could continue to have that ability. Its played for laughs but its actually rather fucked up and abusive. The easiest way to see it as fucked up is just think of the reverse. Imagine Inyuasha yelling 'sit girl' and slamming Kagome's face into the ground, that goes from comedy to straight up horror even though in canon the same thing happens except reversed. That trope needs to die and I hope Vigilantes actually does call out her abusive behavior because it annoyed me seeing those panels and I hope the series didn't treat a mother slapping the shit out of her infant son as a joke. I already have seen mothers scream and yell at their children like aggressive, abusive cunts so this kind of thing annoys me.
Totally agree. I don't think it's funny at all and people would have a problem with it if it was the female being hit. I never found that troupe hilarious even ad a kid. It just seemed abusive. Now if someone like mineta got hit since he's usually being a creep I'd be fine but being hit for no reason other than "comedy" is dumb to me
I kinda experience this stuff from my college classmates since they are ultimate weebs and follow this trope. Glad I already graduated and left those "friends".
@@VoicedIlluso well I'm braindead af for saying that. Some other guy was talking about steel ball run in another comment and I figure he was from that. I'm only at the end of part 3.
I feel her actions are bad but endeavor abused the whole family neglecting his children for being "failures". Possibly lead toya to his death. Smacked the shit out of todorokis mom. And trained todoroki so hard he threw up. I'm glad endeavors on the path to redemption but it doesnt change what he did.
His mom could have killed him with the hard smacks she gave him. Her quirk is "flyswatter" and she can hit hard. She's just awful! She hit him when he was a baby!
If there's one character who just might actually relate to Koichi in the main series, it would be Todoroki. While Koichi basically had a part of himself beaten out of him, Shoto had lost a part of himself because he was essentially being beaten by who it came from. But they're both learning to "regain" that part of themselves that they've lost, and are making an effort to improve themselves with it.
@@Kidoroki Thanks! But really, it is super upsetting how Koichi's mom physically and mentally abuses him just to make it easier on herself. I can't help but think that if he ran for the hills and left his mother completely, he could eventually figure out how to fly again and use the other lost parts of his Quirk. It would allow him to give his Quirk a much more fitting name.
I dont think its cancled. I read the latest chapter and I feel like since 3 years have passed in the series it makes sense to end it in its 4th year. Since the story of mha starts in about 2 years in the timeline.
Oh yeah, because she hit him every time he tried using his quirk properly it stunted it. It’s like if you were punished for walking. Eventually your legs would become desiccated and underdeveloped... possibly permanently.
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@@godlikemachine645 on the flip side tho I rarely let outros play out so it being at the beginning kinda makes it more likely I'll like. Maybe a quick pause in the middle instead?
@@bradleyattwood-payne4726 in the beginning of the series it is but I'm pretty sure with more training and getting back to using his quirk like when he was a baby he could probably just need his 2 feet only or just fly/float everywhere instead.
@@bradleyattwood-payne4726 Yeah he doesn't technically need any limbs cause he flies also if he wants to stick to staying on the ground he could just use his feet.
Dude Koichi’s ability’s are going to develop so well by the end of the series. If he had been able to make it to the entrance exam that day he would be one of the top heroes by the time deku got to U.A. though I am not entirely sure how he would have passed. Maybe he could go on rescue points or somehow trip robots.
I’m sure he could have gotten into the hero corse either way. I mean Mineta and invisible girl did. His power at the beginning of vigilante may not have been the best but he was definitely capable in fight to some extent.
Koichi became one of the strongest heroes due to only real experience and unorthodox training. Imagine how powerful he'd have become if he was actually trained at UA
@@devontehardimon1792 That's been a theory ever since Koichi started using the Shooty Go Blam: AfO stole his quirk for Air Cannon and Pop's for Air Walk. There's still a chance it's canon since AfO stole Knuckleduster's original quirk (conformed via flashback).
The use of his quirk became associated with something painful. It similar to the way dogs are trained (not saying its the same), you ring a bell and give them a treat. Any time they hear a bell, they start to expect a treat.
Abuse doesn't always have to be beatings and neglect. Parents have a unique position and the slightest things they do can affect their child for the rest of their life.
My favorite part in Vigilantes was when Koichi fought that Cat Looking serial killer with the Explosion Ability. Y'know the guy who likes hands way too much? Not familiar? I think it's just me then.
Gotta love that extra bit to the mythos of the idea. His quirk is bug based. Her quirk is a flyswatter. Like, her quirk is DESIGNED to harm her child. That and, "I must hurt you to protect you" mentality is just... Damn. There's being a concerned parent (like Deku's mom) and hitting your kid just because it gets the fastest results. She may not have abused as many people as Endeavour but she definitely solely fucked up Koichi. I'd personally say they are equally as bad. This isnt a contest to award "Worst Parent" trophies. This is the lives of people these people have hurt through abuse. Question becomes...do we count Bakugo's mom? Was she this verbally abusive always? Or is this a product of Bakugo being a shitty person at one time? Still not good, and is DEFINITELY abusive, but it does make you wonder if his actions are solely from his big ego or if his mother's words have a part in how bad he got before All Might, Episode Two Deku, Best Jeanist, and Kirashima got involved in making him a better person.
Koichi.... Koichi.... **HAVING JOJO VIBES** IT MUST BE A WORK OF AN ENEMY STAND!!!! (but seriously qwq for Koichi in MHA that dude deserves all the love in the world qwq)
You know I can just imagine wolverine coming up to pick Koichi up from his apartment home and when Koichi's mother refuses and shuts the door on him he basically kicks it open asking him if he's coming or not and Koichi runs out of the apartment and before wolverine goes out too off-handedly says to his mom that his son has a quirk special so she better deal with it,at least that's how I would believe that would happen.👋😏
Wait, was there effects that happened when he floated? Like, did he glow, and if so, was it only for a second? What if All for One took his quirk, and in MHA, when AFO flies, that was actually his quirk?
I don't know koichi nor this spin off but just by reading his name I think his quirk is about making things really heavy maybe the name could be like three freeze because three and freeze rhyme Thank you for listening to my Ted talk
I believe that Endeavor is considered more abusive than he actually is. No, I'm not saying he isn't a dick, but there are some lines even he won't cross.
@@Kidoroki It's basically weaponized beyblade energy, I don't fully get it but the strongest technique requires you to be moving at the speed of a horse to use, and koichi would be perfect for it
This is sad especially after seeing the recent chapter with popstep. Koichi is probably going to blame and hate his mother and become a darker chapter.
I think he is definitely going to hate himself if something really bad were to happen I still think pop is good for now even though that ending left us on the biggest cliffhanger ever! I need that next chapter already!!
@@Kidoroki I'm not sure popstep is so fine. That "that could be our future" was a huge death flag and indicate that it won't be their future. Plus that panel of Koichi staring at the sun.... I wonder if it was Pop step's vision or a scene of the actual future... I feel like Koichi will be appearing I'm the main series soon and this is the connection that puts it together. It's similar to how they introduced Aizawa's friend right after we realized what exactly happened to him. And yea, definitely waiting for that next chapter.
@@tman229 yeah the deathflags were pretty huge but I have hope even if it is slim. Idk man I really like the pop and koichi relationship. Plus I really hope koichi does finally get introduced or makes an appearance in mha. Been wait for that to happen for a minute!
I imagine my boi Koichi, in a parallel universe, delivering Tofu and tokyo drifting around corners while listenin to some classic vaporwave and eurobeat. Noice
"Not endeavor levels of abuse" endeavor didnt abuse his kids. You can make an argument for neglect, but abuse doesnt really qualify. "Oh but he hit his kid" no, he trained with his kid, if you were going to teach your son or daughter karate or any other martial art, how do you expect to do that without hitting them? Endeavor trained shoto from diapers to be a hero, including how to fight. He was rough and he was strict but that is not abuse, just like making your child practice piano or do their homework every night is not abuse. On the other hand koichis mother hit him as a fucking infant, hit him for no reason other than it made her life easier, continually hit and beat him until he was physically and emotionally crippled. Shoto might have hated endeavor, but the most injury he ever got was from his mother, not his father. While it might harsh from our standard, in a world where heros are killed an die because they do not have enough training, being trained from a child instead of a teenager could save his life someday. On the other hand koichi was beaten mercilessly and without reason. Sure it made his mothers life slightly easier but that is the exact opposite of shoto, as opposed to small hardships early in life to prepare and protect him from his future koichi's mother beat him to improve her life and ruin her son's.
No he abused Shoto. Sure he may have been training him, but for the most part it was against shoto's will and it was beyong intensive for a child. He also physically isolated shoto from his siblings and probally most kids his own age. And for the other kids neglect doesnt really cover it. He physically and mentally abused their mother to the point where she had to be put in a mental asylum and had zero interest in raising them himself. So not only did he neglect them, but also basically put them in a situation where they had no parent to rely on. Plus, in the most recent chapters we find out he's directly responsible for the deaths of one of his kids. Also if he was that abusive to their mother its safe to assume he was the same towards them.
@@TheMightySceptile so parents making their child practice a musical instrument against their will is abuse.... you might never want to meat an Asian person. "oh he turned out to have been responsible for the death of one of his children" hmm, it's almost as if watching your child die might create a reason why one might have problems emotionally connecting with another child, dude are you paying attention? and the only confirmed case of abuse towards the mother was when she permanently scard and potentially crippled their child. dude are you even reading the same fucking manga.
@@NoESanity Yeah, she was so scared of Endaeavor that even shoto just looking like endeavor made her freak the fuck out. Its not shown directly on screen but it can be implied that he'd been mistreating for a long time before that moment. "so parents making their child practice a musical instrument against their will is abuse" let me state this. Its not just that he forced him to train, its the level of training he put him through, along with completely isolating him. The man did not see Shoto as a human being, but a tool to surpass all might. He literally only started regretting any of his actions now, as in the current story. And we can see the kid alive in a scene long after he started isolating Shoto, so its not like hes training him so hard becuase he regrets that kids death. His whole family was just a means to an end for him.
@@NoESanity This isn't just "forcing a kid to learn an instrument" he's doing basically what Mozart's dad did if you wanna use the instrument metaphor he's making them have no life outside of it and then forcing him to work day in and out to the point of exhaustion and causing him to throw up that's definitely abuse. Also his brother dying isn't the motivation for him to train them he just wanted a tool to surpass All Might and nothing more he offered them no hugs and love he only had them work and when they said they cant do it he acted as if they didn't exist or as if they were a disgrace. You're the one who seems to not have read any of the manga my guy.
@@NoESanity Racist of you to assume I'm from a western country. He literally didn't have friends it doesn't contradict source material his dad isolated him from his family as well as other kids his age. Btw you're the on who brought up the instrument metaphor. His siblings were not just fine his sister was forced to grow up and become a second mom to her younger siblings because their mom was put in a mental hospital for a while too. You are very aggressive because you're upset that your argument was deconstructed sorry you're so upset but you're wrong. Maybe you should reread the source material very slooowly next time. Also a quick Google search can tell you he was isolated maybe admit you're wrong rather than double down and look like an idiot.
People in the comments are "shocked" at the portrayal of abuse.. Me as an Asian: Must be a cultural bias as that barely counts as disciplining a child. Sure the mom basically placed a psycological limiter on Koichi due to her overprotectiveness, but that was for Koichi's sake. Endeavour on the otherhand wanted his kids' quirks to mature faster, thus needing to push them beyond their physical and psychological limits which traumatized them.
Nah I'm Asian too but unlike other children. When koichi was a kid up until his adulthood. He should have never needed physical discipline. This is still a form of abuse since it stunted his growth.
It's more than that tho she stunted his growth by hitting him when there's a better more logical alternative instead of hitting him. She also does it well into his adulthood which makes it worse and she actively belittles him in normal conversation even going as far as to say she wants another person to replace her kid. He's traumatized as well he just doesn't know it consciously he's got subconscious trauma.
She is so overprotective that she purposefully tried to stunt him, and worse she partly succeeded. She wanted to keep him helpless so he won't try to help anyone. This is actually a very common type of abuse especially from mothers.
Yes my mom does the same to me but it never stopped me from trying.
@@LuckLady1991 that is great. It is still abuse.
@@LuckLady1991 good because that shits fuckin patheic.
@@LuckLady1991 report her to cps, but first video tape her when she does that.
@@Red-ux2ff I'm an adult now with my own son and the rest of my family is aware of what she does. I go to them and talk about it and they basically scold her to stop. And she still treats me like a child from time to time and would say "I can't do anything right" BUT she still goes and asks me to do stuff for her. She says I talk shit to my brother and sister about her but I tell her "If you don't want me talking shit about you then stop acting like shit" a few days ago I actually yelled at her "you're a real dumb piece of shit you know that".
I feel like I matured enough to make better decisions then she can. I actually remember when I got Strep throat she said the only way to cure it is by taking a QTip and scraping off the white puss areas and then gargling lots of water. Then she sent me back to school and that was it.
I did not learn that there was pills that cured Strep throat until I was like maybe 14 or 15 years old. I always thought it was strange why I kept getting Strep throat but my siblings never did. My mom says it's because I don't brush my teeth enough and I'm dirty.
I stopped asking my mom for help or advice and started to depend on my older brother, Aunt, or grandfather after that.
But I'm an adult now and that was in the past. I'm 30 years old.
She got into the habit of passively forbidding Koichi from exploring his quirk for so long, she repressed her son's potential.
Yep.
He could HV been Darth Vader power
So he can basically fly but doesn't realize it just because he was stopped from doing it so often when he was little.
Pretty much
Levitate to be more accurate, though the prerequisite seems like he also needs 3 limbs like he is on the ground. His base speed should also be as fast as a bicycle, though using his shoot ability would also be usable as a makeshift booster skill.
@@jled787 In the new volume, we find out he doesn't actually need three limbs; he can do it with one or two. He just has a habit of doing it in a more stable position.
Maybe it's gravity manipulation
@@lokithemortal491 He doesnt even need limbs afterall, he can project that "barrier" throughout his whole body
Yeah when koichi got donuted straight through the chest by a guy with a humanoid cat as a quirk who just wanted to live a quiet life and also got kidnapped by a psychopath school girl that had controllable hair as a quirk who just wanted to have koichi to herself I felt bad for the dude
K u funny
But a wacky marine biologist calls him reliable, so he goes to Italy to meet with the gang member who is the son of a british vampire that the marine biologist killed.
Took me a sec to realize this was a JoJo reference.
MasterIII67
Um I think ur thinking about a different Koichi
And then the alternate universe Koichi is being stalked by her childhood friend.
1:03 “basically calling koichi unreliable” I know a certain 195 cm marine biologist who disagrees
Is that a JOJOS REFERENCE
I s t h a t a j o j o r e f r e n c e ?
WRYYYYYYY
if jojo was real and this was that koichi story then gg koichi mom
she may have caused his death. We may not have met him in MHA because he is already dead, and may have lived if he had his whole quirk.
Possibly
Wait Koichi is dead?!
@@miracleofburst6057 No he is not. But due to the recent vigilantes chapter it sounds like he will die by the end of the series. It's a new theory going around.
@@Kidoroki
Oh. R.I.P.
@@SophiaSanders61 No he is still alive.
I just recently read these chapters and I automatically got a weitd vibe from her. Yes she is definitely a mom trope for manga but most of her words didn't seem like a joke. She just kept dissing Kouichi every time she talked about him; even kept asking Makoto to join the family to replace Kouichi. I'm all for family using dark humor to joke with each other but I didnt get that feeling from her.
she admited to constantly slapping a baby who was floating in the air. Now I'm not an expert on parenting nor do I like children but I'm sure that's not something you should do to a baby.
She may have good intentions but I also feel like her actions had a big impact on Kouichi's mind set. Not only his quirk but his personality/attitude as well. He's a pretty laid back guy who doesnt get angry often. He takes hate and beatings daily and doesn't get mad but if a friend or someone he liked was talked about it on the other end of that fist he'd get upset. For example when Captqin celebrity was hating on All Might and signed Kouichi's all might hoodie. Even at the mixer Kouichi didn't know how to fit in so he just laughed politely keeping to himself the first half of the night.
Holy crap, this guy has an insane amount of potential as a hero and his mom abused that potential out of him
This dude could be hover skating like Shadow the Hedgehog right now smh
I mean honestly the trope of women hitting the guys in anime isn't funny at all unless the guy deserved it like trying to perv on her or something. No one should be putting their hands on anyone regardless of gender or age. Parents shouldn't be slapping their kids around, kids shouldn't be trying to hit their parents, friends shouldn't be punching or kicking one another, boyfriends shouldn't be hurting girlfriends and vice versa and same for other relationships. Its played for laughs but in reality its extremely fucked up, especially since at times the guy gets hit for nothing. I remember one anime where the guy would get beat up for complete misunderstandings, I think the anime was Love Hina. Also recall seeing a moment of Inyuasha where because he wanted chips over Kagome's cooking, she abused the necklace around him to constantly slam him into the ground and was happy when the necklace was back on him just so she could continue to have that ability. Its played for laughs but its actually rather fucked up and abusive. The easiest way to see it as fucked up is just think of the reverse. Imagine Inyuasha yelling 'sit girl' and slamming Kagome's face into the ground, that goes from comedy to straight up horror even though in canon the same thing happens except reversed. That trope needs to die and I hope Vigilantes actually does call out her abusive behavior because it annoyed me seeing those panels and I hope the series didn't treat a mother slapping the shit out of her infant son as a joke. I already have seen mothers scream and yell at their children like aggressive, abusive cunts so this kind of thing annoys me.
Totally agree. I don't think it's funny at all and people would have a problem with it if it was the female being hit. I never found that troupe hilarious even ad a kid. It just seemed abusive. Now if someone like mineta got hit since he's usually being a creep I'd be fine but being hit for no reason other than "comedy" is dumb to me
Anime will never change sadly
@@thealphaincel1619 and the bad things in anime will never change
@Starship Trooper-1313 kazuma is the man who ask his parents to have divorce so he can get little sister. At least he's not Mary Sue character.
I kinda experience this stuff from my college classmates since they are ultimate weebs and follow this trope. Glad I already graduated and left those "friends".
Koichi is in MHA and JJBA?! It's good to see my favorite characters branch out
I'm not on steel ball run yet, but it's good to see some cultured people in the comments.
@@Kidoroki Koichi is from part 4????
@@VoicedIlluso well I'm braindead af for saying that. Some other guy was talking about steel ball run in another comment and I figure he was from that. I'm only at the end of part 3.
@@Kidoroki no worries
His mom may say Koichi is unreliable, but Jotaro may have some other words.
Don't personally see how this woman is in anyway better than Endeavor.
Personally, i don't think shes better than him, just not as bad, a lesser evil if you will
Id consider her worse, because Endeavor did do terrible thing. But he's attempting redemption, and if he's serious, that makes him better
Endeavor is easily one of the best written characters in the story
I feel her actions are bad but endeavor abused the whole family neglecting his children for being "failures". Possibly lead toya to his death. Smacked the shit out of todorokis mom. And trained todoroki so hard he threw up. I'm glad endeavors on the path to redemption but it doesnt change what he did.
@@Kidoroki the key is that he's seeking redemption. A villain who becomes a hero is better than a regular person who does bad things
no one made a DIU reference?
ok
let me try
this character really ECHOES
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY
I can hear my tattoo for some reason
@@roberte.ospeedwagon3681 is your Jonathan tattoo speaking to you from heaven?
His mom could have killed him with the hard smacks she gave him. Her quirk is "flyswatter" and she can hit hard. She's just awful! She hit him when he was a baby!
Yeah I always thought it was a little extreme to smack him when he was a baby.
Seriously, what the f(bleep) woman!!?? I hope Koichi returns the favor and cuts her out of his life!
Rohan must have fixed this trauma with Heaven's Door.
Perhaps
If there's one character who just might actually relate to Koichi in the main series, it would be Todoroki. While Koichi basically had a part of himself beaten out of him, Shoto had lost a part of himself because he was essentially being beaten by who it came from. But they're both learning to "regain" that part of themselves that they've lost, and are making an effort to improve themselves with it.
What an awesome analysis on the characters.
@@Kidoroki Thanks! But really, it is super upsetting how Koichi's mom physically and mentally abuses him just to make it easier on herself. I can't help but think that if he ran for the hills and left his mother completely, he could eventually figure out how to fly again and use the other lost parts of his Quirk. It would allow him to give his Quirk a much more fitting name.
@@shadowstar8619 I'm pretty sure in this last arc he will regain more of his floating/flying ability and be able to use it with ease hopefully
When the background singer outperforms the main attraction... Seriously I could see vigilantes overtaking MHA if they didn't cancel it...
I dont think its cancled. I read the latest chapter and I feel like since 3 years have passed in the series it makes sense to end it in its 4th year. Since the story of mha starts in about 2 years in the timeline.
Still is going to be sad to see the series end though.
The series has had a proper finale
Oh yeah, because she hit him every time he tried using his quirk properly it stunted it. It’s like if you were punished for walking. Eventually your legs would become desiccated and underdeveloped... possibly permanently.
Well, after Endeavor and Shigaraki's dad, it's about time we get a abusive mom too
It be your own parents sometimes
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Calls to action are much less effective at the end of the video
@@jacobhines5583 you dont tip before the meal bro
@@godlikemachine645 on the flip side tho I rarely let outros play out so it being at the beginning kinda makes it more likely I'll like. Maybe a quick pause in the middle instead?
This poor reliable guy
"koichi being able to float" koichi the air walk user confirmed???
For some reason i thought u were talking about jojo koichi because i didnt see the thumbnail
Lol it happens
He was abused by his newest friends,
Almost everyone he met within a month tried holding him hostage in some way
So basically she is an a abusive mum
Basically
Poor koichi, he nearly died by David Bowie, had a really attached girlfriend and he lived on a crazy noisy bizarre town
Poor man indeed
I thought his power was activated by having 3 of his limbs to the floor not all 4?
My bad that was a small mistake on my side of things.
I don’t think it actually has to be 3. I’m pretty sure he only did that to not fall over if he tried to slide on his feet only
@@bradleyattwood-payne4726 in the beginning of the series it is but I'm pretty sure with more training and getting back to using his quirk like when he was a baby he could probably just need his 2 feet only or just fly/float everywhere instead.
@@bradleyattwood-payne4726 Yeah he doesn't technically need any limbs cause he flies also if he wants to stick to staying on the ground he could just use his feet.
Same I just started reading the manga last year
Even though koichi is a fictional character... I have a similar past as him and it hurts me that other people went through the pain we did...
A mom hero that hits you with a slipper out of nowhere
Already the new symbol of peace right there lol
I read half the title and thought “WHAT WHO WOULD HURT POOR KOOCHIE”and then I realised this wasn’t a jojo video
lmao
Koishi :mosquito
Mom: slap master 2.0
Just read bout the part of the manga where his mom is introduced and I want to know more about her quirk “Fly Swatter”
Wait just watched more of the vid ignore this comment
It's all good lol
Dude Koichi’s ability’s are going to develop so well by the end of the series. If he had been able to make it to the entrance exam that day he would be one of the top heroes by the time deku got to U.A. though I am not entirely sure how he would have passed. Maybe he could go on rescue points or somehow trip robots.
If he had developped his quirk normally, he would had make it into the hero course.
I’m sure he could have gotten into the hero corse either way. I mean Mineta and invisible girl did. His power at the beginning of vigilante may not have been the best but he was definitely capable in fight to some extent.
Koichi became one of the strongest heroes due to only real experience and unorthodox training. Imagine how powerful he'd have become if he was actually trained at UA
@@JoeFanik exactly.
what if his quirk is actually air walk and all for one steals it at the end.
Omg! You just made my entire day sad this is crazy to think about.
@@devontehardimon1792 That's been a theory ever since Koichi started using the Shooty Go Blam: AfO stole his quirk for Air Cannon and Pop's for Air Walk. There's still a chance it's canon since AfO stole Knuckleduster's original quirk (conformed via flashback).
0:43 "Yes, I will like to speak to your manager or head supervisor please and thank you."
Lmaoooo
The use of his quirk became associated with something painful. It similar to the way dogs are trained (not saying its the same), you ring a bell and give them a treat. Any time they hear a bell, they start to expect a treat.
real underrated channel, great vid
Thanks glad you enjoyed the video
Abuse doesn't always have to be beatings and neglect. Parents have a unique position and the slightest things they do can affect their child for the rest of their life.
My favorite part in Vigilantes was when Koichi fought that Cat Looking serial killer with the Explosion Ability.
Y'know the guy who likes hands way too much?
Not familiar? I think it's just me then.
OI KOICHI! YOU ARE A TRAGIC CHARACTER!
Gotta love that extra bit to the mythos of the idea.
His quirk is bug based. Her quirk is a flyswatter. Like, her quirk is DESIGNED to harm her child.
That and, "I must hurt you to protect you" mentality is just...
Damn. There's being a concerned parent (like Deku's mom) and hitting your kid just because it gets the fastest results. She may not have abused as many people as Endeavour but she definitely solely fucked up Koichi.
I'd personally say they are equally as bad. This isnt a contest to award "Worst Parent" trophies. This is the lives of people these people have hurt through abuse.
Question becomes...do we count Bakugo's mom? Was she this verbally abusive always? Or is this a product of Bakugo being a shitty person at one time? Still not good, and is DEFINITELY abusive, but it does make you wonder if his actions are solely from his big ego or if his mother's words have a part in how bad he got before All Might, Episode Two Deku, Best Jeanist, and Kirashima got involved in making him a better person.
His mom is the perfect balance tho she said he gets an ego and she's right so her saying what she said and acting how she does keeps him in check
Koichi....
Koichi....
**HAVING JOJO VIBES**
IT MUST BE A WORK OF AN ENEMY STAND!!!!
(but seriously qwq for Koichi in MHA that dude deserves all the love in the world qwq)
Koichi is a reliable guy
You thought i was an mha fan...
BUT IT WAS I! KILLER QUEEN!!! (You need to be like ME!!)
Koichi Hirose would never be dishonorable.
You know I can just imagine wolverine coming up to pick Koichi up from his apartment home and when Koichi's mother refuses and shuts the door on him he basically kicks it open asking him if he's coming or not and Koichi runs out of the apartment and before wolverine goes out too off-handedly says to his mom that his son has a quirk special so she better deal with it,at least that's how I would believe that would happen.👋😏
Koichi you truly are a reliable guy
101 Asian parents
Wait, was there effects that happened when he floated? Like, did he glow, and if so, was it only for a second?
What if All for One took his quirk, and in MHA, when AFO flies, that was actually his quirk?
Sounds interesting. Vigilantes seems to be in its final arc so we could see something wild. I just want koichi to have a happy ending lol.
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Lol same. And he better cut off his mom from his life permanently. She appeared for like two chapters but still.
If he never limited his quirk he would have never been late for his hero exam and he would have saved pop without a problem
I don't know koichi nor this spin off but just by reading his name I think his quirk is about making things really heavy maybe the name could be like three freeze because three and freeze rhyme
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OK I did not see the rest of the title, so I thought you were talking about Koichi from Jojo bizzare adventure
It's okay I'm pretty sure a lot of people did that lol
@@Kidoroki still enjoyed the video
I broke my screen deltroit smashing it
That's the type of energy I like
Well my screen disagrees lol
@@jalen8796lol I bet it does
I believe that Endeavor is considered more abusive than he actually is. No, I'm not saying he isn't a dick, but there are some lines even he won't cross.
goddamn jojo reference
Great vid bro
Thanks bro I appreciate it
where is koichi's stand?
He's not ready for a stand. Hamon is the next best thing for him.
@@Kidoroki
Nah, I'd say spin, definitely with his speed
@@drenemelia2960 I'm not that far into jojos I'm at the end of stardust crusaders. :(
@@Kidoroki
It's basically weaponized beyblade energy, I don't fully get it but the strongest technique requires you to be moving at the speed of a horse to use, and koichi would be perfect for it
@@drenemelia2960 sounds pretty cool and sounds fitting for koichi
Bruh high key thought that we were talking about JoJo's Koichi before I clicked the video
That EP. 76, where he shows his true potential to the gang, feels tragic knowing that it's the Crawler's last season.
Koichi is similar to Shigaraki because 9f what happened to their quirk
This is sad especially after seeing the recent chapter with popstep. Koichi is probably going to blame and hate his mother and become a darker chapter.
I think he is definitely going to hate himself if something really bad were to happen I still think pop is good for now even though that ending left us on the biggest cliffhanger ever! I need that next chapter already!!
@@Kidoroki I'm not sure popstep is so fine. That "that could be our future" was a huge death flag and indicate that it won't be their future. Plus that panel of Koichi staring at the sun.... I wonder if it was Pop step's vision or a scene of the actual future...
I feel like Koichi will be appearing I'm the main series soon and this is the connection that puts it together. It's similar to how they introduced Aizawa's friend right after we realized what exactly happened to him.
And yea, definitely waiting for that next chapter.
@@tman229 yeah the deathflags were pretty huge but I have hope even if it is slim. Idk man I really like the pop and koichi relationship. Plus I really hope koichi does finally get introduced or makes an appearance in mha. Been wait for that to happen for a minute!
@@Kidoroki Exactly, I want to see Koichi's progress after vigilante.
He truly is a reliable guy
So are we ever going to get a movie for Vigilanties?
Probably not
@@Kidoroki shame. Be a way to keep the films going while not worrying about spoiling things for the next season.
he was such a reliable guy
Koichi? Unreliable?
Do the vigilantes meet class 1-a at some point
No but koichi has interacted with dekus mom and the group often interacts with pro heroes that are in mha like aizawa midnight and fat gum.
I legit thought about Koichi from JoJo
So basically this dude could've been Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
He's a way better protagonist than izuku
Actually I think deku is the better protagonist for many reasons. I do think koichi is up there though.
Act three when??
Ok Mastuh
Nice Analysis 👍
Wtf where is koichis act 3
Where's koichi from JoJo?
Bro koichis a prodigy he awakened his quirk while he's still a baby
ACT 3! FREEZE!
One slap for all >__>
LMAO
what is this music in the video?
Jojo
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?
I imagine my boi Koichi, in a parallel universe, delivering Tofu and tokyo drifting around corners while listenin to some classic vaporwave and eurobeat.
Noice
Are stands quirks?
Yes and no
Guys just fixing remember this guy could probobly become Darth Vader wtf
Koichi stole cause he had no dignity
Man I hope Giorno and him are doing good
Koichi and Kai look pretty similar
koichi mha or koichi jojo?
Keep it at 444 to piss mista off
Echos Act 3 Freeze!
I guess that counts
#mhakaren
Your voice is exactly like Daily Dose of Internet
*Are you his twin?*
At first i thought this was jojo video (sory vor bad england)
No dignity
Echos act 3 freeze
Overprotective parent
"Not endeavor levels of abuse" endeavor didnt abuse his kids. You can make an argument for neglect, but abuse doesnt really qualify. "Oh but he hit his kid" no, he trained with his kid, if you were going to teach your son or daughter karate or any other martial art, how do you expect to do that without hitting them? Endeavor trained shoto from diapers to be a hero, including how to fight. He was rough and he was strict but that is not abuse, just like making your child practice piano or do their homework every night is not abuse.
On the other hand koichis mother hit him as a fucking infant, hit him for no reason other than it made her life easier, continually hit and beat him until he was physically and emotionally crippled.
Shoto might have hated endeavor, but the most injury he ever got was from his mother, not his father. While it might harsh from our standard, in a world where heros are killed an die because they do not have enough training, being trained from a child instead of a teenager could save his life someday.
On the other hand koichi was beaten mercilessly and without reason. Sure it made his mothers life slightly easier but that is the exact opposite of shoto, as opposed to small hardships early in life to prepare and protect him from his future koichi's mother beat him to improve her life and ruin her son's.
No he abused Shoto. Sure he may have been training him, but for the most part it was against shoto's will and it was beyong intensive for a child. He also physically isolated shoto from his siblings and probally most kids his own age. And for the other kids neglect doesnt really cover it. He physically and mentally abused their mother to the point where she had to be put in a mental asylum and had zero interest in raising them himself. So not only did he neglect them, but also basically put them in a situation where they had no parent to rely on. Plus, in the most recent chapters we find out he's directly responsible for the deaths of one of his kids.
Also if he was that abusive to their mother its safe to assume he was the same towards them.
@@TheMightySceptile so parents making their child practice a musical instrument against their will is abuse.... you might never want to meat an Asian person.
"oh he turned out to have been responsible for the death of one of his children" hmm, it's almost as if watching your child die might create a reason why one might have problems emotionally connecting with another child, dude are you paying attention?
and the only confirmed case of abuse towards the mother was when she permanently scard and potentially crippled their child. dude are you even reading the same fucking manga.
@@NoESanity Yeah, she was so scared of Endaeavor that even shoto just looking like endeavor made her freak the fuck out. Its not shown directly on screen but it can be implied that he'd been mistreating for a long time before that moment.
"so parents making their child practice a musical instrument against their will is abuse" let me state this. Its not just that he forced him to train, its the level of training he put him through, along with completely isolating him. The man did not see Shoto as a human being, but a tool to surpass all might. He literally only started regretting any of his actions now, as in the current story. And we can see the kid alive in a scene long after he started isolating Shoto, so its not like hes training him so hard becuase he regrets that kids death. His whole family was just a means to an end for him.
@@NoESanity This isn't just "forcing a kid to learn an instrument" he's doing basically what Mozart's dad did if you wanna use the instrument metaphor he's making them have no life outside of it and then forcing him to work day in and out to the point of exhaustion and causing him to throw up that's definitely abuse. Also his brother dying isn't the motivation for him to train them he just wanted a tool to surpass All Might and nothing more he offered them no hugs and love he only had them work and when they said they cant do it he acted as if they didn't exist or as if they were a disgrace. You're the one who seems to not have read any of the manga my guy.
@@NoESanity Racist of you to assume I'm from a western country. He literally didn't have friends it doesn't contradict source material his dad isolated him from his family as well as other kids his age. Btw you're the on who brought up the instrument metaphor. His siblings were not just fine his sister was forced to grow up and become a second mom to her younger siblings because their mom was put in a mental hospital for a while too. You are very aggressive because you're upset that your argument was deconstructed sorry you're so upset but you're wrong. Maybe you should reread the source material very slooowly next time. Also a quick Google search can tell you he was isolated maybe admit you're wrong rather than double down and look like an idiot.
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I'm surprised honestly but I'm not going to complain lol
i thought this was Jojo..
People in the comments are "shocked" at the portrayal of abuse..
Me as an Asian: Must be a cultural bias as that barely counts as disciplining a child. Sure the mom basically placed a psycological limiter on Koichi due to her overprotectiveness, but that was for Koichi's sake. Endeavour on the otherhand wanted his kids' quirks to mature faster, thus needing to push them beyond their physical and psychological limits which traumatized them.
Some child needs to get a little hit so they can be a better person.
Nah I'm Asian too but unlike other children. When koichi was a kid up until his adulthood. He should have never needed physical discipline. This is still a form of abuse since it stunted his growth.
It's more than that tho she stunted his growth by hitting him when there's a better more logical alternative instead of hitting him. She also does it well into his adulthood which makes it worse and she actively belittles him in normal conversation even going as far as to say she wants another person to replace her kid. He's traumatized as well he just doesn't know it consciously he's got subconscious trauma.
What this is it jojo