Intended or not, IT IS A RED CARD. Perfect example of a similar situation is when Thomas Muller fly kicked Tagliafico when Bayern played Ajax a few years back, Muller didnt intend to do it as he was looking at the ball but he still connected Tagliaficos head and it was a rightful red card and Muller even accepted it and checked on Tagliafico after receiving the card, thats how it should've been in this case with Donnaruma
@@lordsmobilethecolosseummov8668 no. Not when the forward is not in control of the ball anymore. He is responsible of where to land. The GK was the last to touch the ball.
Agreed. Last year Marcelo made a tackle that broke a man’s leg. Not intentional, he’s never been a dirty player, but he still got the red card. The player who made the challenge on Donnarumma should have been sent off.
Stevie is wrong here. Yes the stricker maybe not intend to hurt th GK, but at least should control his leg to avoid contact on the face, maybe use the foot side instead of the stud. He can see clearly that Donna is coming at him. Dont just blame Donna
I think we can all agree the striker is responsible, but that does not mean it should be a red because the GK close the distance to the foot on purpose to minimise any chance of a goal.
@@OptLabStevie is right as the 3 var, ref 2 Lino’s and even Donaruma all agreed it shouldn’t have been a sending off. The GK committed to a dangerous action leaving the attacker no option but to try and clear him or be taken out
@@danineira366 A pedestrian crossing the street when cars are running is indeed dangerous. The responsibility is about for who the light, for who it's red. In football, it's green when you are in control of the ball, red if you aren't. When 2 parties are not in full control of their (dangerous) actions, then you look at the rules. The GK touches the ball the last, so the light became green for the GK right before the event. Does it mean red card, obviously not as I've said because we look at the circumstances. But the way you write it looks like the GK is more responsible than the striker. By nature, every GK has to closet he distance to the striker as fast as possible. It can not be voluntarily dangerous as long as the GK touches the ball before contact with player.
that is a ridiculously stupid take from Stevie. that challenge being as bad as it turned out doesn’t get excused because he doesn’t _intend_ to do it red card
Keepers should do better to protect themselves. They shouldn't get the right to dive in however they want especially when they have more weapons then the striker.
Wrong it’s an awful take from two idiots, Jan literally says it’s not fair and he doesn’t agree the attacker should be penalised then straight after says he should have been sent off. It’s not dangerous play by the attacker, it’s dangerous play by the keeper he slides into the attacker forcing him to try and clear him.
Neither players are wrong but this is a perfect example of dangerous play that could have ended very badly. The goalkeeper’s job is to protect the goal by any means especially in his box. Unfortunately It should have been a red card to protect players going forward.
*INTENT* does not matter when going for the ball when the outcome is that horrendous. that is a horribly dangerous attempt at the ball and the injury shows that. that is a red, _“trying to get away from the GK”_ doesn’t excuse that when he DID end up hurting him
When a defender tackles an attacker within the goalkeepers area, his intent is to get the ball and not bundle or get his legs hooked with his opponent. For he understands the consequence is giving away a penalty. With the stakes understood and clear, we all know the defenders actions are pure to get the ball...yet we still call the foul.
Donnarumma should've been off his line. Singo was 2-3 touches into the play with full control of the ball. Donnarumma slide in with his head high and expected the striker to have full control of the situation? absurd!
We can't start policing on outcome. Horrendous outcome sure but this is a contact sport. Some of that contact will be terrible. If the strikers goes to ground then sure but he jumps to avoid the keeper. Are we punishing him for not jumping high enough over a 6''4 keeper? Its unfortunate but at some point we need to accept the game has contact that can get dangerous even when everyone does the right things and no one is at fault for that. Prayers up for Gigi.
If you are a goalkeeper and you put yourself in that situation then you run the risk of that kind of injury. This call for a red card is ridiculous. Shall we show a red card to any wall that is hit by a motor racing driver? Frank Lebouef is talking out his backside
1st rule in futbol for a referee is safety for the players. Every play is and should be analyzed based on recklessness, risk and potential injury or injury. Red all the way. The rules have changed for the better. It’s not the 80s.
This is ridiculous from Stevie he’s point is outrageously stupid. He should be sent off how can you see that and said it’s not a sent off what if he died of that challenge?
It's ridiculous from You....its an accident that the keeper could have avoided but the striker couldn't avoid because he jumped high and the keeper head was not on the ground
Nonsense!!!!!!! The player have all right to try and get the ball period! He's too emotional about this because the player had no bad intention to hurt the goalkeeper
Never a red. I'm so tired of goalkeepers getting special decisions that don't make any sense if u spelled it out. This is a drop ball situation. Nothing more nothing less
Never a red. That was a grievous bodily harm. A police officer should have handled the matter. The outfield player had a chance to avoid Donnarumma if he wanted to
@ Yes, This isn’t a case of recklessness or negligence. He clearly went for the ball, attempting to chip it over the keeper while leaping to avoid contact. Unfortunately, the keeper’s face was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Intended or not, IT IS A RED CARD. Perfect example of a similar situation is when Thomas Muller fly kicked Tagliafico when Bayern played Ajax a few years back, Muller didnt intend to do it as he was looking at the ball but he still connected Tagliaficos head and it was a rightful red card and Muller even accepted it and checked on Tagliafico after receiving the card, thats how it should've been in this case with Donnaruma
Red card , dangerous play doesnt have to be intentional
He deserve a jail sentence
The goalkeeper put his self in danger it's not the striker's responsibility to avoid him
@@lordsmobilethecolosseummov8668 no. Not when the forward is not in control of the ball anymore. He is responsible of where to land. The GK was the last to touch the ball.
Agreed. Last year Marcelo made a tackle that broke a man’s leg. Not intentional, he’s never been a dirty player, but he still got the red card. The player who made the challenge on Donnarumma should have been sent off.
It’s not dangerous by the attacking player, the keeper is the one playing dangerous
Stevie is wrong here. Yes the stricker maybe not intend to hurt th GK, but at least should control his leg to avoid contact on the face, maybe use the foot side instead of the stud. He can see clearly that Donna is coming at him. Dont just blame Donna
I think we can all agree the striker is responsible, but that does not mean it should be a red because the GK close the distance to the foot on purpose to minimise any chance of a goal.
No stevie is not wrong.. the striker has every right to go for d ball.. its accidental .. you can't blame d striker for this.. no chance
@@Henry-sg9ifstop upvoting yrself
@@OptLabStevie is right as the 3 var, ref 2 Lino’s and even Donaruma all agreed it shouldn’t have been a sending off. The GK committed to a dangerous action leaving the attacker no option but to try and clear him or be taken out
@@danineira366 A pedestrian crossing the street when cars are running is indeed dangerous. The responsibility is about for who the light, for who it's red.
In football, it's green when you are in control of the ball, red if you aren't.
When 2 parties are not in full control of their (dangerous) actions, then you look at the rules.
The GK touches the ball the last, so the light became green for the GK right before the event. Does it mean red card, obviously not as I've said because we look at the circumstances. But the way you write it looks like the GK is more responsible than the striker. By nature, every GK has to closet he distance to the striker as fast as possible. It can not be voluntarily dangerous as long as the GK touches the ball before contact with player.
He is really so much lucky because that shoes not touched coincidencely on his eyes. Thank to God 🙏
Intended or not its red.. simple.. you have to learn how to avoid keepers
2 starts all season for Kolo Muani is madness. definitely has to leave.
going Arsenal is a good shout tbf
No. He's just another Rashford
The player should have jumped higher to protect the goalkeeper 😮
Exaxtly with his legs tucked
Maybe the goalkeeper should’ve came out the box faster 🤷🏽♂️ (what I said is dumb, just like what you said)
that is a ridiculously stupid take from Stevie. that challenge being as bad as it turned out doesn’t get excused because he doesn’t _intend_ to do it
red card
Keepers should do better to protect themselves. They shouldn't get the right to dive in however they want especially when they have more weapons then the striker.
Wrong it’s an awful take from two idiots, Jan literally says it’s not fair and he doesn’t agree the attacker should be penalised then straight after says he should have been sent off. It’s not dangerous play by the attacker, it’s dangerous play by the keeper he slides into the attacker forcing him to try and clear him.
Neither players are wrong but this is a perfect example of dangerous play that could have ended very badly. The goalkeeper’s job is to protect the goal by any means especially in his box. Unfortunately It should have been a red card to protect players going forward.
*INTENT* does not matter when going for the ball when the outcome is that horrendous. that is a horribly dangerous attempt at the ball and the injury shows that. that is a red, _“trying to get away from the GK”_ doesn’t excuse that when he DID end up hurting him
yeah I hate how they talk about intent, how does anyone know what their intent was? It shouldn't even matter.
When a defender tackles an attacker within the goalkeepers area, his intent is to get the ball and not bundle or get his legs hooked with his opponent. For he understands the consequence is giving away a penalty. With the stakes understood and clear, we all know the defenders actions are pure to get the ball...yet we still call the foul.
Reckless and dangerous play. It’s a red regardless of intention.
sure, Stevie. if that's Harry Kane, you're demanding prison time.
It's a RED....how ref and VAR thought otherwise just pure poor!!
It was hard to what happened to Donnarumma
The goal keeper is untouchable but the rule should be both ways. Many times the goal keepers come out reckless when the field player is in the box.
When Vini protests stupidity of referees not protecting players he is labelled classless.
Donnarumma should've been off his line. Singo was 2-3 touches into the play with full control of the ball. Donnarumma slide in with his head high and expected the striker to have full control of the situation? absurd!
Old guys arguing not what i want to see
Lol, go watch something else then
It's absolutely wild that wasn't a red. Stevie has a WILD take.
If Dollarrumma was a Madrid player 💀😬 That player wouldn't just be losing his career but his....... 👀
Let's be honest here , it's tricky situation . Danaruma shiuld have neen alert
We can't start policing on outcome. Horrendous outcome sure but this is a contact sport. Some of that contact will be terrible. If the strikers goes to ground then sure but he jumps to avoid the keeper. Are we punishing him for not jumping high enough over a 6''4 keeper? Its unfortunate but at some point we need to accept the game has contact that can get dangerous even when everyone does the right things and no one is at fault for that. Prayers up for Gigi.
Like the comments, I am half way between, because he didn't mean to do it but sometimes the outcome is such that the player needs to get a red
If you are a goalkeeper and you put yourself in that situation then you run the risk of that kind of injury.
This call for a red card is ridiculous. Shall we show a red card to any wall that is hit by a motor racing driver?
Frank Lebouef is talking out his backside
Intentional or non intentional its a red!!
1st rule in futbol for a referee is safety for the players. Every play is and should be analyzed based on recklessness, risk and potential injury or injury. Red all the way. The rules have changed for the better. It’s not the 80s.
with all due respect, kolo muani should level down and go to a mid table club, and not arsenal!👍
I think stevie has mastered the “triggering” takes where he only gets mentioned because of saying stupid shxt and no actual football knowledge
Well , long rest and be paid , no hard feelings
Donorouma should've been smarter than that at the end it's farmers league game and your team will win why take a risk
This is ridiculous from Stevie he’s point is outrageously stupid. He should be sent off how can you see that and said it’s not a sent off what if he died of that challenge?
So d player doesn't have the right to go for d ball?...
It's ridiculous from You....its an accident that the keeper could have avoided but the striker couldn't avoid because he jumped high and the keeper head was not on the ground
Stevie is so wrong 😢😢😢
Why not show the video of it happening?
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Since intend matters? Dangerous play is always red
Martial signed for 100 Million ??. Thats not true
Singo should have been suspended.
That's a terrible injury on the goalkeeper
how is stepping w studs on someones foot/leg a red but studs to the face isn’t?
Why is only STEVIE making sense of the whole situation because clearly he jumped up to avoid the hit but unfortunately it wasn’t possible
I was worried that you were gonna have that one french guy on.
At least this guy can be understood with out subtitles
Thats a red for sure. 100%. Accident or not, thats as dangerous as it gets. People saying its not a red is pretty stupid, look at that mans face
Nicol chatting nonsense yet again °
Nonsense!!!!!!!
The player have all right to try and get the ball period! He's too emotional about this because the player had no bad intention to hurt the goalkeeper
100% agree with Stevie. Absurd conversation. Goalie slide out late and striker tried to avoid him. Insane conversation.
He loses his eye he doesn't say it with the same emphasis I bet
Never a red. I'm so tired of goalkeepers getting special decisions that don't make any sense if u spelled it out. This is a drop ball situation. Nothing more nothing less
Its a red for reckless foul play. Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Sadio Mane got red cards for similar incidents.
Must have never played soccer in his life,,,dangerous play doesn't always have to be intentional
Always a red. Stop watching the game because you obviously don’t know ball.
Never a red. That was a grievous bodily harm. A police officer should have handled the matter. The outfield player had a chance to avoid Donnarumma if he wanted to
Lol
Stevie been hitting the bottle again
Red card??? Suspension for a long time cause of beeing dummie.. He made it on purpouse
Reddd cardddd alll day
Bruv arsenal is not better team than psg if we’re being real
(almost) got his eye and ruin his career whos fault is that hmm.. 😂😄
That's an extra £1B bonus for the injury..Daddy Al-Khelaifi will see to that
But that's a bad injury on the face
Don’t worry about that,start worrying about your boy Pep Guardiola mental health. He looks like he’s going into mental breakdown.
Maybe you should be more worried about your pep hurting himself .
Stevie is right no Red card
It's no red card??????
Nope. No intentions no punishment simple @Kwami357
Youre cracked out foh
Was the attacker supposed to fly after chipping the ball???!
He's loud and wrong. Lack of intent doesn't immune you from getting a red card. Its a red card for foul play.
That was never a red card. Total accident.
Bro almost took his life and your still defending him
@ Yes, This isn’t a case of recklessness or negligence. He clearly went for the ball, attempting to chip it over the keeper while leaping to avoid contact. Unfortunately, the keeper’s face was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@@goddy510 Nah his foot was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Stevie it’s right 100% the other guy he just come with trash talk
Damaruma is just another drama . I do feel bad for the giy , for sure . But he is not a good keeper.
It's a clear Red
Omg esp presentor should also be sent off, what if that was his eyes ?? *anker
That’s for voting messi for FIFA best
Stevie nicol is a drunk , period.
Not a red card!
red card 💯%