Christian Nationalism Derangement Syndrome: Owen Strachan, Doug Wilson and Stephen Wolfe
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Jon Wright discusses various topics including Owen Strachan's recent article on Christian Nationalism, including Doug Wilson, Stephen Wolfe and more...
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So glad someone else has read the ‘Failure of the American Baptist Culture’ from C&C 1! Such a great article. Thank you for including it in this video. I recommend anyone to read it.
Grace and peace.
I read the intro to The Failure of the American Baptist Culture and was a little disappointed. He seemed to be arguing against a hyper individualistic Baptist tradition as a straw man and then applied that same critique to all Baptists, insisting there could not be anything like a Reformed Baptist. That is a pretty bad argument. And to insist our culture is how it is because of that Baptist culture is a little silly when you consider that the most Baptist areas are the best preserved Christian cultures in the world. The more Reformed, Anglican, and Roman Catholic cultures throughout the West are much further gone than the heavily Baptist American south and the more rural Baptist areas throughout the Midwest.
That was an excellent collection of articles! It needs to be more widely read.
Great work! The Greek grammar explanation was helpful. It’s tiring to constantly hear of CN criticism that misrepresents the CN position. It’s one of the reasons I’m drawn to CN.
This was great. The greek grammar lesson was noteworthy in that I was actually able to follow it. I'm used to these things essentially going over my head. (Much love to Dr. White but I found the simplicity of the graphics used for this lesson to be much easier to follow!) Thanks for all you're doing.
Today more than ever in my Christian life, I’m convinced that CN is the only way forward if we are to rescue the Church from the fickleness in which it has been for many years now.
Yes
Yes, I am also convinced and convicted
The lie that Christian faith shouldn't be a part of all parts of life is one of the most damaging lies ever told.
Beautiful rhetoric and argumentation, thanks for your work on this, this kind of thing (engaging and making good arguments) is important and this Baptist votes you keep doing it, thank you 🙏
Like all CN folks, this avoids the central questions: "Did Joe Biden win the 2020 election? Or was it stolen from T***P?" and "Do you support the Project 2025: Presidential Transition Project."? This is aside from the historic problems of CN: The European Wars of religions (like the 30 years where millions upon millions of Christian were killing other Christians). The US was really founded on the notion (borrowed from Herman Melville) "Better to have a sober cannibal than a drunken Christian". This is the meaning of James Madison's words: "“The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.” Today's CN is inviting the soaking of American soil.
Thank you for the critique of Owen's article. It was well put together and greatly appreciated.
Great video brother!
Well said!
Who sings the rendition on Psalm 110 at the outro?
Tim Bushong "I Know My Redeemer Lives"
Godbless
You can’t disciple a nation. You can’t take Norway to coffee!
Jesus said we could (and would) Matt. 28:18-20. Maybe the problem is your idea of discipleship (going to coffee) is not in the Bible…
I believe the comment was made sarcastically.
It's in reference to something Owen Strachan said
Wilson Derangement Syndrome
its funny how these guys always say we can disagree on secondary issues but lose their mind over CN
@eschatology_matters, I read the intro to The Failure of the American Baptist Culture after your recommendation, and I was a little disappointed. He seemed to be arguing against a hyper individualistic Baptist tradition as a straw man and then applied that same critique to all Baptists, insisting there could not be anything like a Reformed Baptist. That is a pretty bad argument. And to insist our culture is how it is because of that Baptist culture is a little silly when you consider that the most Baptist areas in the world are the best preserved Christian cultures in the world. The more Reformed, Anglican, and Roman Catholic cultures throughout the West are much further gone than the heavily Baptist American south and the more rural Baptist areas throughout the Midwest. I take the critique as a good correcting to excessive individualism in some circles, but I really think the takes it too far and is far too absolutist in his thinking.
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All nations = Gr. ethnos = ethnicities
Christian nationalism is sounding a lot like Roman Catholicism.
This message is completely void of the Holy Spirit.
^--- and this one is?
> poster exegetes the text within context, and clears up common misrepresentations and (potentially) bad faith argumentation
> dude says "there's no Holy Spirit."
What a completely irresponsible thing to say. It's so manipulative it is actually shameful.
How would you know. Ah, you are a prophet!
It’s seems to me, a layman, that this issue some have with CN are reacting to their own uneasy feelings. My personal opinion is that if we are preaching the gospel, ministering to saints and establishing churches and institutions, and building godly families isn’t a cultural Christian consensus what we are striving for? Like, what is the problem? Taking the objectors’ point to its end would require no one to plant churches and no one to evangelize. Because that would be crossing the line, we don’t want a nation to follow God now do we?
Strachan is lackin’ (wisdom)
It would be clever, but his name is confusingly pronounced, “stran”.
Thanks so much for this brief but wonderful take.
Excellent.
I also made a video on book recommendations on america is a Christian Nation
Nice chair