Ive followed Kinda Funny for years because of how genuine Greg and the others are. I know they're fallible, but I also have seen their morals and know where they stand when they do fuck up. But does that mean I'd blindly follow them despite questionable actions? Of course not. Thank you for having this conversation. Its important people draw that line between those you know and those you don't. A person can hide a lot through a screen.
Now that Doc has issued a statement on Twitter (just 30minutes ago), he's admitted to crossing lines with inappropriate messaging with a minor. Let's collectively ask THIS MAJOR QUESTION: What's Twitch's role and responsibility in all of this? They settled this "dispute" with Doc out of the spotlight and kept this all under wraps for 4 years now. Are we just going to wipe our hands and say it's over and done with? Is there any responsibility on Twitch's end for this? I understand there's real concerns surrounding the potential of giving out a minors information to the dregs of the internet, but it seems like there was a way for Twitch to both conceal that persons identity while issuing a statement on what Doc was doing in their "whisper chat". It feels all too concerning that Twitch would let this go on for 4 years. I get corporations concerns over their brands reputation taking a hit from a major member of their platform at the time being caught up in this, but to not disclose their severing of their partnership over such a disgusting problem to save their image only amplifies the issue. Will their be accountability and if so what should it be? People should really hold the companies feet to the fire as well.
I don't know what the answer is, but I know there is nuance to this. I also know that I'm more upset at the streamer and his actions than I am at a logo.
I love that I can watch this AFTER Dr Disrespect admitted to the whole thing and even before y’all had the whole picture you absolutely nailed it on every level. I love you guys.
Great conversation guys! And everyone in the comments, proud to see 99% of us being adults about everything and remembering at the end of the day we’re all Best Friends
You don't settle behind doors if everything is okay. And you don't let him go from the studio after talking to parties involved either if everything is still okay. MS found something out they did not know
In regards to the Gaza Biden thing, Trump really would be no better. He said a couple months ago that Israel must "finish what it started" in regards to the war in Gaza. Kevin is right. One of these two men will be president.
Trump would be much worse, he formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which was arguably a contributing factor to risings tensions. One of Palestine's request is to split Jerusalem so it can be both Jerusalem and Palestine's capital and there is no way Israel will agree with that now especially if they have the support of the US behind them which will extend the conflict even more.
Except Trump would be infinitely worse for that situation. Blessing's opinion is kinda like being mad at the fire chief because some buildings still inevitably burn down on his watch, so instead of him you'd rather vote for an arsonist to take the job. It makes literally no sense.
@@byers31303 Exactly Bless is a super bright dude, but obviously a little uniformed on this topic. If you really look into it the Biden administration has rolled back some age old policies that benefit Israel. Our state department is now anti settlement which is a huge change that people don’t understand. If Trump was president my guess would be that Palestine would not exist at the moment.
Shows like this are why Kinda Funny is the best. Just a really great, nuanced, and mature conversation about real issues (some of which I disagree with! And that’s ok!) alongside all the fun game content. Great show you guys!
@@bbiaso I'm in the same boat, I usually listen as a podcast the next day. I definitely recommend checking out both Andy and Mike on Twitch, a lot of the same people in chat hang out there.
Welcome to the community. Hope you have a good time. Most people here are cool and reasonable. And same, I don't get to listen and interact live, but I can usually get around to watching within a day or two.
A guy named Dr. Disrespect shouldn't surprise anyone. I LOVE the conversation Greg and bless had and I agree 100%. Everyone needs to support guys like Greg Miller and weird al. They're proof that it's not THAT hard to just be a good accepting person.
I wasn't expecting the show to be focus on the first topic and get into politics, but I loved this episode. You don't have a agree on all the point to have a good conversation.
I love and have so much respect for you guys being willing to have these conversations. It would be so easy to play both sides or just avoid it all entirely so you dont turn people away and maximize views and support.
Great talk on these serious issues. With Colin I think he was about ready to go anyway. He didn’t like a lot of the live in person shows and going to conferences. With him leaving he made a great games news company, too. And he wasn’t cancelled by the definition of being cancelled. He was however blacklisted by most of PlayStation and other games media. There’s no denying that.
Colin runs by his own ethical framework and despite everything, he's gonna view himself as "cancelled" even when he chooses not to get review copies and what not. I won't ever understand unless I get crapped on by a massive Twitter mob and have my existence banned on Resetera (some of the stuff y'all say is at the very least unreasonable and at worst just straight up bigoted in its own way). So I give him grace on this. I'm still an LSM sub and I think they do great work. For those who are curious about what I'm referring to on ResetEra, look into the situation between Dustin from LSM and EZA and Colin's rant on his podcast about it.
@@guywhosbored7 Ya that reaction from the LSM community to the not so great way EZA handled it put it me off of watching anything from LSM even tho I love Brad.
@mattsanders2207 The EZA backlash was within the community, not super out in the public. But what was super out in the public for me to see was the absolute vitriol coming from the LSM community, which is what turned me off from them. Even though I tried. Cause again, I wanted to keep up with Brad and I thought maybe Collin isn't as grating to listen to as years ago.
Absolutely loved the conversation today gentleman. Truly makes me so proud to apart of the community and that I spend my time watching some truly awesome humans. Love and respect forever to you brave dudes. It’s a dark world out there. Thank you for carrying some light through it.
Wow that live chat sure is terrible today lol. Great episode guys . Great discussion. You guys always say "be better." Be nice to people. It is not hard. Actually it is very easy to not be a piece of shit.
Real talk, I appreciate y'all for this conversation. I realize that majority of your viewers come for video game content but you guys have a big platform and expressing a nuanced and reasonable perspective is appreciated.
None of it was nuanced? It was one sided while patting themselves on the back . Everything was surface level with no knowledge of the actual facts . Fuck Dr. Disrespect is the only good thing in this whole episode tbh
The amount of crazy shit folks been saying to me on Xwitter is crazyyy for simply drawing a common sense line in the sand. These people are OBSESSED and it’s sad. Like Greg and Bless said, ITS COMMON SENSE.
I don’t know who this Dr Disrespect is, however people seem to forget an important thing. Being a celebrity, or someone in the public eye, doesn’t mean that they ultimately aren’t human. And humans, can easily fuck up. We seem to, as a society, put these people on a pedestal. It’s always been like that, and frankly I feel with social media it’s gotten worse. We feel we know these people and have a right to defend them. But we don’t know them, and it’s not our responsibility to defend them.
tune into your daily gaming news podcast, we have thrilling topics like exposing a Pedophile and which U.S Presidential candidate would be best to vote for based on their words and actions in the Israel-Palestine situation. (nah fr love these deeper conversations)
Anyone upset by kinda funny being out loud leftists clearly hasn't been paying attention. Everything they said is 100% on point. While innocent until proven guilty is correct you don't need to be an adjudicated criminal to be a scumbag who should know better than to engage with minors. Especially after you're insanely public cheating fiasco. Even if he said nothing untoward he still shouldn't engage with fans in private dms, it's just not a good look with that power imbalance.
as someone with a twitch account for years, the ONLY person i ever whisper with is someone my own age who i've known as a good friend for many years. golden rule - keep all twitch/youtube/whatever chat in public chat, and never engage in parasocial behaviour. it's a professional space, keep it that way.
listening to this back... it leaves a slight bad taste in my mouth ... the fact you guys bang the drum about studio closures etc... and seem to just laugh around the fact that midnight society will not exist is a few years (which will lead to people losing jobs) and the game wont ever be as good as COD without known anything about the game...
Kinda funny. A place where we will tell you somewhat how we feel,flip it round and reverse it all in the same sentence just so we make sure we are safe from all angles. Guys never even entertain these subjects. Ive been watching from the start but its getting beyond boring.
Edit: Maybe I should watch the full video because they already mentioned the response already lol He has responded. Will leave it to y’all to decide what to think of it. (There’s more to the tweet, but this is his main response) “Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me.”
My question is how does something he did or said "lean" inappropriate with a minor? What does that mean? Being vaguely sexual? I don't think he would have gotten in trouble for using some cuss words or something. He should have just gone the whole 100 yards and admitted that engaging a minor wasn't just stupid; if he has to couch what happened in terms of "leaning inappropriate," the whole situation was almost certainly inappropriate.
@@MKap33 you know nothing about the case as does anyone here. This case has been legally resolved. You morons hate just to hate at this point as again the case has been RESOLVED IN COURT. So unless you think you are above the law every body should move on.
Same reaction as Greg around minute 12. Why are people shocked that "Dr Disrespect" is an awful person.. dude has history. (By they way, dont feel sorry for that game studio, they're just doing NFT scams)
I get that the Israel shit is bad, but we dont live in Israel and this election is going to affect so many people in the US for the worse if Trump is re-elected. Tell Bless to go look at Project 2025 and tell me thats the America you want to live in. Israel Palestine is a complicated issue that will never be solved in our lifetime and has been going on for ages. I applaud your stance and commitment to the atrocities occurring, but for the love of fuck, do not let that stop you from voting in the US election
@@mortecai222 1. Yes, something true can still be propaganda. The fact that you're even asking that question shows a serious lack of knowledge on the subject. 2. The particular things about which we are referring are not true.
@@mortecai222 I only insulted you because you asked a stupid (hopefully rhetorical) question. And it seems that YOU are the one who chooses to ignore reality while ironically telling others that they "live in a bubble" lol
Nobody knows how old the girl said she was. And as far as blow hards saying that he should be ridiculed for cheating? Never had the chance to cheat. It’s not a new thing.
@@Riceball80IA you think both Twitch and Midnight Society fired a man who thought he was speaking to a legal adult? Make that make sense. The lengths y'all will go to try and convince yourself that he's not despicable is crazy. If you did any research at all you'd know that the man has a history of cheating on his wife. Like, it's readily available information. The guy is scum and you're defending him. What does that make you?
@@totalXgarbage need proof that he knew she was younger than 17. Because 17 is legal intent age in Texas. And no legal happenings probably means there was no proof of inappropriateness.
@@Riceball80IA Doc lives in California and he's admitted to speaking inappropriately to a minor. Are his own words not enough for you? If not, what you're experiencing right now is called "delusion". Try using it in a sentence today!
@@totalXgarbageI was misinformed on where he was living. But it doesn’t matter if the girl lied about her age. Then he would say he communicated with a minor. Because he did without knowledge. Remember the believe all women movement?
I cant believe Greg said what has Biden done wrong other than the abortion stuff. Does he not realize that the middle/lower class is absolutely crushed right now? I like how Blessing actually tried sharing his views but were ganged up on by both Greg and Kevin saying "no no no you cant vote Trump!" And then say people can have their own views and beliefs, unbelievable. I think they should take a look around and not just in SF.
Dumb. They don’t presume to know or say or defend anything about the people that they don’t know. The people that they do know including community members and other people in the industry (theirs peers), they will speak on.
Don’t think that is what he was saying at all. I think he was saying he wishes there were a more progressive, peaceful 3rd option. Just what I got from it.
That's not what he's saying at all. As a third party voter, I get where he's coming from. On the two options we actually have, both are shit, just in different ways. We shouldn't have to settle for what is considered than of lesser of two evils, but it's what the govt and media give us to work with, bc they don't want change. Third party could end being worse, but it could also end up being better for us. We have no way of knowing and never will, when the country only focuses of Dems and Reps.
He didn’t do anything wrong legally, but morally, I guarantee you he did something wrong. He would never release those messages. He wrote to the underage individual on the Internet. He would never tell us what was said in those messages because it might be perfectly legal what he said, most people would say that’s gross. it was some sexual comment made towards an underage minor which I didn’t know they were under age, but other people will just not believe it and no business wants to be tied to someone who did something like that so they cut him loose. They had to pay him because they couldn’t legally committed a crime Notice he has never come out and said this is the message I sent to someone I didn’t do anything wrong.
@@NF_Redux the way ya coming to defend Greg right now is the same way Dr disrespect fans are coming to his defense of trumps fans. Let’s keep the same energy call out bs when you see it. I tune in to see gaming news but more than often Greg and Tim have injected their political nonsense into “ gaming news”. I understand it’s their platform but they have attacked others for doing the same thing. And yes, I know what happened . I listened to the Rogan interview with C. Every story has three sides, each side then the truth.
For anyone upset at the Trump comments just understand KF is not the place for nuanced or bi-partisan political discussions. You will not find moderate or right leaning perspectives here and they are unapologetic about it. You either accept it or leave…Greg can’t be any clearer here!
Na most people would be down for bi partisanship if Trump was actually a republican. Republicans at there core we’re about fiscal responsibility and actual family values. Trump could not be farther from either of those things. As a liberal leaning moderate what the Republican Party has turned into keeps pushing people in the middle away because they serve nobody. Also I feel comfortable letting my opinion being known among the KF community, so your take on KF not being a place for nuanced conversations is wrong. KF one basic rule is don’t be an asshole, pretty simple.
@@TakeitEasy64HD Real small govt Republicans died the moment Newt Gingrich weaseled his way into the limelight. Trump is just the inevitable reemergence of fascism in a country that has always flirted with it.
@@TakeitEasy64HDI would argue that Republicans use to PRETEND to be about fiscal responsibility and family values. Trump has just allowed them to shed that facade
@@TakeitEasy64HD you say this, but the familial unit is not singularly defined - so by saying you support family values, you would have to support any combination of families. And they clearly don’t.
Comparing Dr. Disrespect defenders to the same people complaining about cancel culture and pro maga is such a bad take. A lot of these people could just be children, a lot of his defenders could just be entertained by his on screen character. I bet a huge majority of his fan base have no idea any of this is going on and will wonder why he won’t be streaming for a while. I absolutely do not defend him, but you really shouldn’t start pushing left vs right toxic politics into this situation.
Come on man. The dude dangled the red meat constantly. We all know his fan base. It’s literally the same shit. The worst part is not finding any of this behavior surprising for all parties involved.
Just a coincidence that Asmon's primarily right-wing audience flooded Alanah Pearce's channel with hateful comments defending Dr. Disrespect immediately after he commented on it?
Pretending like these cultural phenomena are completely disconnected is silly, and both Greg and Blessing disclaimed that it's not a blanket judgment of all his fans for some of the exact reasons you just posted, it's a criticism of specific reactions to the news. It's like yall aren't listening to what they're saying or something.
Exactly, it's like Puff Daddy. I mean sure he probably did some bad stuff with trafficking minors. But "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems" was such a good song. I'm riding with Diddy #MoDiddy. (Unless it's not clear, I'm being sarcastic. I'm not a sociopath)
Respectfully, how can you push back & claim having different beliefs and then immediately recoil when your colleague may vote differently? I'm not from the US so it's just my outside perspective but just an observation.
As someone who is pro trump, pro Iseral and anti abortion I still love this show and respect them for being true to themselves . Because while we have differences we all share a love of gaming.
There's so much that doesn't make sense about the whole Doc situation. I'm going to reserve judgments either way because, like everyone else here, nobody knows shit about it. I suggest everyone else do the same.
14:15 🗣️”and it’s probably A MINORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR”
Bless casually saying “strike a chord” 😂😂
I caught that too. lmao
WOP WOP WOP WOP BLESS FUCK EM UP WOP WOP WOP WOP
Ive followed Kinda Funny for years because of how genuine Greg and the others are. I know they're fallible, but I also have seen their morals and know where they stand when they do fuck up. But does that mean I'd blindly follow them despite questionable actions? Of course not.
Thank you for having this conversation. Its important people draw that line between those you know and those you don't. A person can hide a lot through a screen.
KEVIN sayin we all watch to catch a predator is pure gold 1:06:10 thanks Greg and blessing for an amazing show and for takling real life situations
Nooo. Not the guy who's entire stick is to look like a creepy predator
who woulda thought?
Yeah right just like Ava right but i bet no one would say something about that huh
Thanks for speaking on this gents.
Now that Doc has issued a statement on Twitter (just 30minutes ago), he's admitted to crossing lines with inappropriate messaging with a minor. Let's collectively ask THIS MAJOR QUESTION:
What's Twitch's role and responsibility in all of this? They settled this "dispute" with Doc out of the spotlight and kept this all under wraps for 4 years now.
Are we just going to wipe our hands and say it's over and done with? Is there any responsibility on Twitch's end for this?
I understand there's real concerns surrounding the potential of giving out a minors information to the dregs of the internet, but it seems like there was a way for Twitch to both conceal that persons identity while issuing a statement on what Doc was doing in their "whisper chat".
It feels all too concerning that Twitch would let this go on for 4 years. I get corporations concerns over their brands reputation taking a hit from a major member of their platform at the time being caught up in this, but to not disclose their severing of their partnership over such a disgusting problem to save their image only amplifies the issue.
Will their be accountability and if so what should it be? People should really hold the companies feet to the fire as well.
Alanah Pearce shared her perspective on that on her channel. Don't remember if she answers your question, but she has some insight.
I don't know what the answer is, but I know there is nuance to this. I also know that I'm more upset at the streamer and his actions than I am at a logo.
I love that I can watch this AFTER Dr Disrespect admitted to the whole thing and even before y’all had the whole picture you absolutely nailed it on every level. I love you guys.
Great conversation guys! And everyone in the comments, proud to see 99% of us being adults about everything and remembering at the end of the day we’re all Best Friends
You don't settle behind doors if everything is okay. And you don't let him go from the studio after talking to parties involved either if everything is still okay. MS found something out they did not know
In regards to the Gaza Biden thing, Trump really would be no better. He said a couple months ago that Israel must "finish what it started" in regards to the war in Gaza. Kevin is right. One of these two men will be president.
Trump would be much worse, he formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which was arguably a contributing factor to risings tensions. One of Palestine's request is to split Jerusalem so it can be both Jerusalem and Palestine's capital and there is no way Israel will agree with that now especially if they have the support of the US behind them which will extend the conflict even more.
Except Trump would be infinitely worse for that situation.
Blessing's opinion is kinda like being mad at the fire chief because some buildings still inevitably burn down on his watch, so instead of him you'd rather vote for an arsonist to take the job.
It makes literally no sense.
yup, America was founded on racism, colonialism and white supremacy, all which are core values to Israel as well.
@@byers31303 Exactly Bless is a super bright dude, but obviously a little uniformed on this topic. If you really look into it the Biden administration has rolled back some age old policies that benefit Israel. Our state department is now anti settlement which is a huge change that people don’t understand. If Trump was president my guess would be that Palestine would not exist at the moment.
@@byers31303Yup
Shows like this are why Kinda Funny is the best. Just a really great, nuanced, and mature conversation about real issues (some of which I disagree with! And that’s ok!) alongside all the fun game content. Great show you guys!
I was a casual/lurker on this channel but after this episode I’m all in. Blessing and Greg are awesome
Welcome! ❤
Welcome in! If you're able to catch any of the live streams they're a blast!
@@the5starman926 I have a hard time watching them live because of my job. I’m lucky if I watch one to completion
@@bbiaso I'm in the same boat, I usually listen as a podcast the next day. I definitely recommend checking out both Andy and Mike on Twitch, a lot of the same people in chat hang out there.
Welcome to the community. Hope you have a good time. Most people here are cool and reasonable. And same, I don't get to listen and interact live, but I can usually get around to watching within a day or two.
This was definitely well put together 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
A guy named Dr.
Disrespect shouldn't surprise anyone. I LOVE the conversation Greg and bless had and I agree 100%. Everyone needs to support guys like Greg Miller and weird al. They're proof that it's not THAT hard to just be a good accepting person.
I wasn't expecting the show to be focus on the first topic and get into politics, but I loved this episode. You don't have a agree on all the point to have a good conversation.
I love and have so much respect for you guys being willing to have these conversations. It would be so easy to play both sides or just avoid it all entirely so you dont turn people away and maximize views and support.
Great talk on these serious issues. With Colin I think he was about ready to go anyway. He didn’t like a lot of the live in person shows and going to conferences. With him leaving he made a great games news company, too. And he wasn’t cancelled by the definition of being cancelled. He was however blacklisted by most of PlayStation and other games media. There’s no denying that.
Colin runs by his own ethical framework and despite everything, he's gonna view himself as "cancelled" even when he chooses not to get review copies and what not. I won't ever understand unless I get crapped on by a massive Twitter mob and have my existence banned on Resetera (some of the stuff y'all say is at the very least unreasonable and at worst just straight up bigoted in its own way). So I give him grace on this. I'm still an LSM sub and I think they do great work. For those who are curious about what I'm referring to on ResetEra, look into the situation between Dustin from LSM and EZA and Colin's rant on his podcast about it.
@@guywhosbored7 Ya that reaction from the LSM community to the not so great way EZA handled it put it me off of watching anything from LSM even tho I love Brad.
@@guywhosbored7 that’s the reason why Brad went to LSM right?
@@hilldill8 Brad went to LSM because of the backlash from the EZA community right?
@mattsanders2207 The EZA backlash was within the community, not super out in the public. But what was super out in the public for me to see was the absolute vitriol coming from the LSM community, which is what turned me off from them. Even though I tried. Cause again, I wanted to keep up with Brad and I thought maybe Collin isn't as grating to listen to as years ago.
Audio listener here. Had to pop over to say I really enjoyed the discussions on this episode, and it makes me proud to be a member ❤
Great ep KFF and thank you for speaking on the DD situation
6:32 Wow, Greg’s son can teleport. Must be because Greg likes DC comics so much, just had a kid with a superpower. 😂
One of the best episodes of KFGD, very well done and huge respect to you both
Absolutely loved the conversation today gentleman. Truly makes me so proud to apart of the community and that I spend my time watching some truly awesome humans. Love and respect forever to you brave dudes. It’s a dark world out there. Thank you for carrying some light through it.
Thank you for not shying away from speaking about politics, way too many people on RUclips are afraid to and it’s so frustrating
Maybe the best episode I've seen all year from you guys. You now have my support
Doc's lawyers are having a stroke lol
I just wanna say that Greg's Japanese pronunciation has gotten way better haha
My kinda people here !! I love this show !
This episode was great, with some real talk. I love the KF crew so much.
This episode might make KFG green on shinigami eyes :o
Best show in awhile, and they only put out bangers 🔥🔥🔥
Blessing killed this episode. He brought it
Dachshunds are the best dogs, got 3 of them
Got one of my own as well. Fantastic dogs with loads of character.
Wow that live chat sure is terrible today lol. Great episode guys . Great discussion. You guys always say "be better." Be nice to people. It is not hard. Actually it is very easy to not be a piece of shit.
Absolutely fantastic episode today. Thank you all for being who you are.
These are the conversations I subscribe to kinda funny for ❤️
Legendary podcast! KF are the best at what they do!
Great episode today boys
Real talk, I appreciate y'all for this conversation. I realize that majority of your viewers come for video game content but you guys have a big platform and expressing a nuanced and reasonable perspective is appreciated.
None of it was nuanced? It was one sided while patting themselves on the back . Everything was surface level with no knowledge of the actual facts . Fuck Dr. Disrespect is the only good thing in this whole episode tbh
17:13 Absolutely Amazing Alliteration. I Applaude Anyone with such Alliteration Aptitude. Aight.
He edited out the word “minor” afterwards….and then got called out about it and edited it back in
Greg is the GOAT for that take. The man can do no wrong 👏🏼
This episode is the exact reason I love KF
Blessing, say tea leaves one more time, I dare you!
He did say it a lot of times lolol
Good talk boys 👏
WAIT…. Sabrina Carpenter is the other girl from Drivers License? I’ve learned more from the intro than any other games daily
Love Greg’s take on freedom of speech.
Respect Guys! 👍
The amount of crazy shit folks been saying to me on Xwitter is crazyyy for simply drawing a common sense line in the sand. These people are OBSESSED and it’s sad. Like Greg and Bless said, ITS COMMON SENSE.
Absolutely loved this episode. Thank you for being such bloody amazing people.
Nah I'm glad yall talked about it. It's related to the game industry and needed to be talked about. These disgusting weirdos need to be outed.
Really buried the lead with that Vampire Survivor update. Lol God, I can't wait to get that platinum!
Fucking standing ovation for Greg ❤
Anyone want to play the "Tea Leaves" drinking game?
Nice show, well said...
I don’t know who this Dr Disrespect is, however people seem to forget an important thing. Being a celebrity, or someone in the public eye, doesn’t mean that they ultimately aren’t human. And humans, can easily fuck up. We seem to, as a society, put these people on a pedestal. It’s always been like that, and frankly I feel with social media it’s gotten worse. We feel we know these people and have a right to defend them. But we don’t know them, and it’s not our responsibility to defend them.
I've fucked up but never groomed a child. You people defending him are sick
I'm proud of the best friends today. Well, I'm proud of most of you. Some of y'all really need to check yourself and open your damn ears.
Bless and Greg nailed it.
Let’s not forget we’re still out here listening to Michael Jackson
tune into your daily gaming news podcast, we have thrilling topics like exposing a Pedophile and which U.S Presidential candidate would be best to vote for based on their words and actions in the Israel-Palestine situation. (nah fr love these deeper conversations)
Well said Bless!!!!
Anyone upset by kinda funny being out loud leftists clearly hasn't been paying attention.
Everything they said is 100% on point. While innocent until proven guilty is correct you don't need to be an adjudicated criminal to be a scumbag who should know better than to engage with minors. Especially after you're insanely public cheating fiasco.
Even if he said nothing untoward he still shouldn't engage with fans in private dms, it's just not a good look with that power imbalance.
as someone with a twitch account for years, the ONLY person i ever whisper with is someone my own age who i've known as a good friend for many years. golden rule - keep all twitch/youtube/whatever chat in public chat, and never engage in parasocial behaviour. it's a professional space, keep it that way.
Well done guys for reminding people what it looks like to actually have a moral backbone ✊🏻
What if the girl was lying about her age? Or the fact that 17 is legal age of consent in TX? And what if his wife is okay with an open relationship?
Then he would have said those things.
@@totalXgarbage supposed leaked documents said he was not aware of her age
Yall need to start listening to bad bunny
Good people don't say they are good. We just know it.
Got any more wisdom for us Socrates?
listening to this back... it leaves a slight bad taste in my mouth ... the fact you guys bang the drum about studio closures etc... and seem to just laugh around the fact that midnight society will not exist is a few years (which will lead to people losing jobs) and the game wont ever be as good as COD without known anything about the game...
Kinda funny. A place where we will tell you somewhat how we feel,flip it round and reverse it all in the same sentence just so we make sure we are safe from all angles. Guys never even entertain these subjects. Ive been watching from the start but its getting beyond boring.
Bless. It's a two-party system, brother. It's not ideal, but we gotta just pick the lesser of two evils.
But that’s what people have been doing for decades and shit just gets worse and worse with worse options so when do you say enough is enough?
Totally agree! Freedom of speech != freedom from consequences!
Edit: Maybe I should watch the full video because they already mentioned the response already lol
He has responded. Will leave it to y’all to decide what to think of it. (There’s more to the tweet, but this is his main response)
“Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me.”
My question is how does something he did or said "lean" inappropriate with a minor? What does that mean? Being vaguely sexual? I don't think he would have gotten in trouble for using some cuss words or something. He should have just gone the whole 100 yards and admitted that engaging a minor wasn't just stupid; if he has to couch what happened in terms of "leaning inappropriate," the whole situation was almost certainly inappropriate.
This sounds like how people talk when Chris Hansen shows up
@@MKap33 I think you answered your own question and you answered correctly
@@MKap33 you know nothing about the case as does anyone here. This case has been legally resolved. You morons hate just to hate at this point as again the case has been RESOLVED IN COURT. So unless you think you are above the law every body should move on.
the Chris Hansen defense, rounded-off with the Trimp defense, a day after saying he might head to Costa Rica for reasons. amazing.
Always a good episode when Greg gets political.
Third party needs to rise!!!!!
Cant wait for the vote for Biden episode
Same reaction as Greg around minute 12. Why are people shocked that "Dr Disrespect" is an awful person.. dude has history. (By they way, dont feel sorry for that game studio, they're just doing NFT scams)
Wait "Mr Asshole" is an asshole?
*shocked Pikachu face *
Blessing sounds like he just watched too much propaganda on Tiktok, to be honest. Kev though, spitting straight facts.
Yeah, some of the stuff that Blessing said about Biden might as well be coming from the mouth of a Trump voter.
It just sounds eerily similar.
Examples?
I get that the Israel shit is bad, but we dont live in Israel and this election is going to affect so many people in the US for the worse if Trump is re-elected. Tell Bless to go look at Project 2025 and tell me thats the America you want to live in. Israel Palestine is a complicated issue that will never be solved in our lifetime and has been going on for ages. I applaud your stance and commitment to the atrocities occurring, but for the love of fuck, do not let that stop you from voting in the US election
@@mortecai222
1. Yes, something true can still be propaganda. The fact that you're even asking that question shows a serious lack of knowledge on the subject.
2. The particular things about which we are referring are not true.
@@mortecai222 I only insulted you because you asked a stupid (hopefully rhetorical) question.
And it seems that YOU are the one who chooses to ignore reality while ironically telling others that they "live in a bubble" lol
I would actually like a political talk for kinda funny.
Nobody knows how old the girl said she was. And as far as blow hards saying that he should be ridiculed for cheating? Never had the chance to cheat. It’s not a new thing.
@@Riceball80IA you think both Twitch and Midnight Society fired a man who thought he was speaking to a legal adult? Make that make sense. The lengths y'all will go to try and convince yourself that he's not despicable is crazy. If you did any research at all you'd know that the man has a history of cheating on his wife. Like, it's readily available information. The guy is scum and you're defending him. What does that make you?
@@totalXgarbage need proof that he knew she was younger than 17. Because 17 is legal intent age in Texas. And no legal happenings probably means there was no proof of inappropriateness.
@@totalXgarbage No I bet the girl lied about her age.
@@Riceball80IA Doc lives in California and he's admitted to speaking inappropriately to a minor. Are his own words not enough for you?
If not, what you're experiencing right now is called "delusion". Try using it in a sentence today!
@@totalXgarbageI was misinformed on where he was living. But it doesn’t matter if the girl lied about her age. Then he would say he communicated with a minor. Because he did without knowledge. Remember the believe all women movement?
Sabrina Carpenter….have y’all even LISTENED to Chappell Roan? She’s the one that’s making the waves.
Never heard of either of them.
Yawn
actually, i have heard Bless mention Chappell Roan in a positive light
Pretty sure they mention her in the same conversation
Bless yapping again and I stopped listening.. bro doesn’t know how to have a conversation
You should try being an actual man instead of being offended by everything
Bruh
I cant believe Greg said what has Biden done wrong other than the abortion stuff. Does he not realize that the middle/lower class is absolutely crushed right now? I like how Blessing actually tried sharing his views but were ganged up on by both Greg and Kevin saying "no no no you cant vote Trump!" And then say people can have their own views and beliefs, unbelievable. I think they should take a look around and not just in SF.
KF talking about how parasocial relationships are bad while they refer to their fans as "best friends" 💀
Dumb. They don’t presume to know or say or defend anything about the people that they don’t know. The people that they do know including community members and other people in the industry (theirs peers), they will speak on.
@@mikekasabion You said a whole lot of nothing.
@@henrysmith5343No you're just too dumb to get what he said
Odd choice to devote ten minutes to enabling Trump there, boys. Think you'll come to regret that in January.
Bless wavering on potentially voting for trump is one I feel like would be very quickly changed if he just checked out project 2025.
Don’t think that is what he was saying at all. I think he was saying he wishes there were a more progressive, peaceful 3rd option. Just what I got from it.
That's not what he's saying at all. As a third party voter, I get where he's coming from. On the two options we actually have, both are shit, just in different ways. We shouldn't have to settle for what is considered than of lesser of two evils, but it's what the govt and media give us to work with, bc they don't want change. Third party could end being worse, but it could also end up being better for us. We have no way of knowing and never will, when the country only focuses of Dems and Reps.
He didn’t do anything wrong legally, but morally, I guarantee you he did something wrong. He would never release those messages. He wrote to the underage individual on the Internet. He would never tell us what was said in those messages because it might be perfectly legal what he said, most people would say that’s gross. it was some sexual comment made towards an underage minor which I didn’t know they were under age, but other people will just not believe it and no business wants to be tied to someone who did something like that so they cut him loose. They had to pay him because they couldn’t legally committed a crime Notice he has never come out and said this is the message I sent to someone I didn’t do anything wrong.
Why are people acting like the sky is falling with trump again. He was president already and it was fine. The world didn't end.
"It was fine" JESUS, you people really do have some sort of mass psychosis lol. Enjoy having your constitution and thus way of life shredded
Didn’t y’all kick a co-founder of the show for having a different political view….the irony
@@That_guy87 so you didn't actually watch the whole show. Good job, bro.
@@caynebyron I did. Greg likes to throw trump into a lot of his arguments. I’m not even a republican but trump lives rent free in his head.
bro you've head years to find out what actually happened
@@NF_Redux the way ya coming to defend Greg right now is the same way Dr disrespect fans are coming to his defense of trumps fans. Let’s keep the same energy call out bs when you see it. I tune in to see gaming news but more than often Greg and Tim have injected their political nonsense into “ gaming news”. I understand it’s their platform but they have attacked others for doing the same thing.
And yes, I know what happened . I listened to the Rogan interview with C. Every story has three sides, each side then the truth.
For anyone upset at the Trump comments just understand KF is not the place for nuanced or bi-partisan political discussions. You will not find moderate or right leaning perspectives here and they are unapologetic about it. You either accept it or leave…Greg can’t be any clearer here!
there's no nuance around Trump. You either are a brainwashed conspiracy laden traitor, or an actual adult. its very simple tbh.
Na most people would be down for bi partisanship if Trump was actually a republican. Republicans at there core we’re about fiscal responsibility and actual family values. Trump could not be farther from either of those things. As a liberal leaning moderate what the Republican Party has turned into keeps pushing people in the middle away because they serve nobody. Also I feel comfortable letting my opinion being known among the KF community, so your take on KF not being a place for nuanced conversations is wrong. KF one basic rule is don’t be an asshole, pretty simple.
@@TakeitEasy64HD Real small govt Republicans died the moment Newt Gingrich weaseled his way into the limelight. Trump is just the inevitable reemergence of fascism in a country that has always flirted with it.
@@TakeitEasy64HDI would argue that Republicans use to PRETEND to be about fiscal responsibility and family values.
Trump has just allowed them to shed that facade
@@TakeitEasy64HD you say this, but the familial unit is not singularly defined - so by saying you support family values, you would have to support any combination of families. And they clearly don’t.
Things are great under Biden? Im with Bless on this one. Both options are the worst choices we have ever had. Robert Kennedy for President.
Rare cancer chat day.
Comparing Dr. Disrespect defenders to the same people complaining about cancel culture and pro maga is such a bad take. A lot of these people could just be children, a lot of his defenders could just be entertained by his on screen character. I bet a huge majority of his fan base have no idea any of this is going on and will wonder why he won’t be streaming for a while. I absolutely do not defend him, but you really shouldn’t start pushing left vs right toxic politics into this situation.
Come on man. The dude dangled the red meat constantly. We all know his fan base. It’s literally the same shit. The worst part is not finding any of this behavior surprising for all parties involved.
Just a coincidence that Asmon's primarily right-wing audience flooded Alanah Pearce's channel with hateful comments defending Dr. Disrespect immediately after he commented on it?
Pretending like these cultural phenomena are completely disconnected is silly, and both Greg and Blessing disclaimed that it's not a blanket judgment of all his fans for some of the exact reasons you just posted, it's a criticism of specific reactions to the news.
It's like yall aren't listening to what they're saying or something.
Exactly, it's like Puff Daddy. I mean sure he probably did some bad stuff with trafficking minors. But "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems" was such a good song. I'm riding with Diddy #MoDiddy.
(Unless it's not clear, I'm being sarcastic. I'm not a sociopath)
Nope its spot on and you are acting the same way
I am so disillusioned right now
Bad Bunny sucks. Almost as much as Drake.
new podcast “kinda political”
Respectfully, how can you push back & claim having different beliefs and then immediately recoil when your colleague may vote differently? I'm not from the US so it's just my outside perspective but just an observation.
Because they're voting for someone who WANTS to be a dictator. That's fucked and shouldn't be respected.
As someone who is pro trump, pro Iseral and anti abortion I still love this show and respect them for being true to themselves . Because while we have differences we all share a love of gaming.
But why can’t we share a love of all people?
@@EveryTimeIDavid we should :)
Any more fake tweets from Andy?
TRUMP 🇺🇸 BE READY ! 100% agree with you on Doc tho
Be ready for idiots vote for a dictator
@@preyingocelotgames4397cope
There's so much that doesn't make sense about the whole Doc situation. I'm going to reserve judgments either way because, like everyone else here, nobody knows shit about it. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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