How to Connect a Timer to Your Geyser/Hot Water Cylinder
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- Опубликовано: 10 янв 2018
- This video will show you how to connect a timer to your geyser/hot water cylinder. I'm using the Top Tronic timer made for geysers/HWC up to 20Amps.
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Thanks for this. The clear overview of the wiring is very helpful.
Hi Jean
It is clear that you know your stuff. Thanks for a great video.
Thank you for keeping it short and simple...
Hi Jean,
Great Vid, simple explanation. Saved a lot of 🦌🐏🐐. Thx Boet!
You are a star Jean. It’s very easy to understand 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hello Mr j thank you so much for helping us big love from durban have a great day
Hi Jean, I installed one of these bad boys today with the guidance of your video , thanks! :)
Yah this guys are really awesome
Awesome video. You're a life saver
Gr8. Simple and CLEAR
Thank you very much, this video really helped me
Great video, thank you Jean
YOU ARE A LIFE SAVER......THANK YOU
Very helpful vid thankyou
Nice one, thank you comrade
Much appreciated!
Thanks for the video. Followed all your steps to the tee and the timer switches on, but for some reason there is no power to the geyser. Do you know what it could be?
Had a look at the Mayortech one but the manual sucks. You have to bridge 2 points and no explanation why and made me uncomfortable to buy it. This one is straight forward and the manual is way better as well. And the explanation here made it even easier. Guess I'm buying this model. @Jean B, Dankie vir die video!
GREAT JOB MAN
Gr8 video thanks
Good video thank you, going to get one of tgese
Shot for the tips !!
Puik video!!!!!! Baie dankie.
Thank you!
Thanks
Thanks a Mil Jean
nice video
Thank you Sir 🙏🙏🙏
Baie dankie vir video gaan definitief help
Jo-Smoke BBQ. Bly dit help!
Hello
I have a Major Tech MTD8 timer.
It has the two connection points on the top for Live and Neutral but there are three connection points at the bottom. How do I install it?
It also says the timer must be protected by a 20Amp DIN mount MCB. Now what is this?
Cool videos, ek hou al n tydjie jou kanaal dop. Lekker tips en tricks.
Nice video. I noticed that your testing rig looks different from an average European or American consumer unit. Are you considering making a video that would show in detail South African consumer unit?
Hi Tomala
Have not considered it,but you have sparked my interest now that you mentioned it. Will do some research,maybe I can show the differences from one continent to the next.
Thanks for the inspiration!
Dankie ou maat.
Hi,
Great vid. Two questions. 1- do these timers have user replaceable batteries? My one time looses all settings and time during power cuts. During loadshedding this wasn’t nice at all.
And 2 - why would a timer become unresponsive. My other timer doesn’t respond to any inputs. So I can’t change the time or programs. Also some of the led segments no longer show. Luckily this one still maintains settings after power cuts.
Hi
I have never tried replacing the batteries but im sure its possible with some fiddling.
I would always replace a faulty timer. Trying to fix it is too much time and effort for me.
Nice sir
Hi good video but there are confusing , installed two today I sickled with them as the auto ON and Auto OFF is very confusing , seems to me that when you set the timer and you standing there and it’s before the time it’s needs to go on then you need to put it in auto OFF , or if you standing there and it’s at the time is supposed to be on then you set it at Auto ON , this is what seems to happen
Baie dankie
Hi Jean. Is there a recommended temp the Geyser should run at for it To be hot enough to shower without burning and reducing electrical consumption?
Temperature is what you want it to be,however a rcommended temperature is 65deg.C above that the water will be scalding hot,geyser thermostats have a maximium setting which is around 65 and not much higher,the setting dial will show a max setting mechanically locked,hope this helps.
Dankie .
Hallo, great video! Can you recommend a geyser timer? I have had two CBi brand timers fail over the last 5 years so I am looking for a better alternative. Thank-you
HellermanTyton
Yes cbi is bullshit
Hi like your videos, could you do a 3 phase db please
Good day
The 3 outputs on the bottom of timer. Should I connect wire to the middle one?
pin5
Ek het my geyser ook al ñ paar laar gelede op timer gesit. Die plek waar ek die timer (Major timer) gekoop het, het my aanbeveel om ñ relay (Finder 60.12.8.230.0040) inlyn met die timer te sit en dit is glo om die timer te beskerm. Ek kan ook net sê ek het nog nooit probleme gehad met die timer nie en dit bespaar werklik krag. Die video is baie duidelik en verstaanbaar.Die mense moet dit regtig oorweeg, hulle sal definitief nie meer betaal vir krag nie, inteendeel net minder.
Hi mate, how do I connect a contactor to that? I need to switch a Hot water pump with a big start up current.
Hi Bernard
Check out my other video,maybe that would help: ruclips.net/video/gOcImlyCRQk/видео.html
Hi Jean, does the law require a qualified electrician to install this unit or can a homeowner do it themselves?
Hi Max
South African law,yes qualified or supervised by a qualified electrician.
If you do decide to do it on your own then let a qualified person have a look and confirm that all is fine.
I would guess that 50% + of installations in SA are not done or even inspected by a qualified person though...
Hi Jean,
I bought a Geyser-wise timer , model number DHC8A. This timer only has four connections at the bottom in this sequence: 1. Live; 2. Neutral; 3. Load-in 4. Load-out. How do we connect this one?
Hi Sam. You will have to bridge out 1.Live and 3.Load in. Other than that just connect as in the video.
@@p0we111 Makes sense. Thank you so much. You are a star
Hi, from where did you get your timer? and how many cycles can it do?
Hi
Voltex is where I bought this timer.
Not sure about the cycles...
Is the circuit breakers on a Samite rail?
Hi. yes these are Samite breakers. Some timers can hook into both samite and dinrail boards.
How do I delete a time I have previously set... Without resetting the entire setup?
You set the both on and off times to 00:00 then that program will be deleted.It should look like this after you've deleted it - - : - -
How many geyser does the single timer operates?
With this timer, only one.
You will be able to put a contactor in and let the timer switch on the contactor which then switches on multiple geysers.
But it wil probably be cheaper to just put in two timers.
Thanks, mine stopped working. How do I know if I need a replacement?
Check if the timer gets supply from the geyser circuit breaker
Best to use a qualified electrician one that understands the torque required to tighten contacts for such a high powered input and output. Secondly use the timer to engage a high powered contactor . Look at how a 3.5kw AC3 220V Contactor is built compared to a so called geyser timer. These timers dont last because their contacts are not designed for high power high arcing switching. Rather use the timer to switch a contactor to switch your geyser!
IYou are correct,i use a timer to control a contactor for my geyser,even though these timers are rated at 16A they still have a relatively short life span.
But how you put your timer on auto ?
is it possible to lock it with the password?
Does this timer have a battery backup in case of load shedding?
Hi. Yes it does. Mine ran for over a year on no power, only battery.
It will not however switch on the output with no power, but will keep time and settings.
@@jeanboetzkes9820 Many thanks. Would you recommend me trying this install myself? I am fairly handy in a handyman kind of way - I can wire up a plug and a socket
@@jeanboetzkes9820 Also, could you possibly do a movie on Electricians tools? Specifically a multimeter and how to use it?
Doing it yourself is easy from my point of view, but watch the video and decide if you are comfortable doing it yourself. Just make sure all power is off, the correct size wire is used and all your connections are tight. Those are the important points.
I will be adding some videos soon. Have been quite for a while.
I also want to do some fun projects, if time allows!
Can you please help me..my geyser timer switched off completely and now my water's cold. I want to remove it but I don't know how... Please advise
Hi Sellinah Ntuli
Watch the video and if your timer looks like this one,just put the two red wires together in one terminal or connector. that should sort it out. If youre unsure,let me know what color wires you have.
Jean B Thanks for the reply, there's a red and a black wire going into the timer. Looks like your one
If I take the wires out of the timer for instance... What must I do with them? I can't leave them lying around, right?
There's a red and a black wire going to the top of the timer and two red ones going to the bottom of the timer. Which ones do I take out?
Sellinah Ntuli
Just move the top red wire to the bottom ones. Put them in there with the other red ones in the timer and just leave the time5r in there. That sould solve your problem.
Jean B Thank you, let me do that. Will let u know of the outcome.
Can the timer handle 2 x Geysers?
Will the connection be the same?
Hi. Short answer is no. But it all depends on the size of the geysers. The most common geysers here are 3kw. But if you have two 1kw geysers it should be fine. Two 3kw geysers won't though...
@@p0we111 it is 2 X 3kW Geysers which is currently connected to a 30 A breaker. The geyser timer has a 30A rating.
@@shalenmaharaj6028 If they state 30A it should be able to handle it. I always over speck on electrical stuff though, so I would maybe connect the timer to a 40A relay/contactor...
@@p0we111 thank you
Is daar geen neutral wat onder die timer uitkom nie
Jaco Silver
Hi Jaco. Gewoontlik nie. Timers sit net die Live draad aan en af.Jy kan die neutral van die geyser net optel by die neutral bar.
Dankie baie
Ek het toe die timer connect en dit het mooi gewerk, maar die geyser het nooit aangesit nie, ek het toe die vervaardiger gebel en hulle het aanbeveel dat ek die live wat bo in gaan met die een onder bridge, nou werk dit.
Jaco Silver
Dit klink my die timer het dan nie aangesit soos dit moet nie. as dit nou werk en die geyser word warm beteken dit al jou ander bedrading is reg,dis net die timer wat nie reg aan en af sit nie.
Maak seker jou timer (indien selfte een in video) is gestel op "auto on" of "auto off" anders gaan die timer nooit werk soos dit moet nie. Trn minste weet jy jou curcuit is reg en kan dit net die timer/settings wees.
@@jacosilver4646 Op Die manier bypass jy die timer so daar is geen nut vir die timer nie ?
of mis ek iets =D
Tnx, but you explanation was shot on programming the time.
Ek soek ook bietjie hulp met my timer. Ek het acdc sat40 mini rail timer. My geaser breaker het rooi en swart draad na geaser toe. Hoe koppel ek myne 100% reg. Ek het jou video miljoen keer gekyk.
Hi Heinrich.
Ek het vinnig die SAT40 ge-google maar kon niks kry nie. Het toe net gaan kyk vir 'n mini rail timer by ACDC en sien hulle het 'n swart een.
Die Neutral draad op ACDC se timer gaan bo in en die Live in en Live uit onder in.
Met jou 2 x drade uit die geyser breaker,sal ek die rooi draad uithaal onder en koppel by die timer se L - OUT (LOAD) .
Dan moet jy 'n rooi draad van diselfte dikte vat vanaf die Timer L na jou breaker waar jy nounet die ander rooi draad uitgehaal het.
Die swart draad los jy net so in die breaker,sit net nog 'n draad by vanaf die swart van die breaker na die N van die timer.
Hoop dit werk.
Groete
@@p0we111 Hi Jean, als goed....? Ek het myne nou net soos die gekoppel, nie die swartdraad uitgehaal & net 'n draad bygesit van die breaker na die timer se N, maar nou gaan my garage motor se plug aan as geyser aangaan & af as die geyser afgaan; (😃lag my klaar), wat kan die oorsaak wees.....?
@@keithgavenvanwyk4610 Hi Keith. Die garage motor se plug kan dalk by jou geyer bo in die dak opgekoppel wees. Gebeur meer as wat jy sou dink! Kan dalk in jou kragboks onder die geyser breaker ook gekoppel wees,maar jy sal dan 2 drade daar sien uitkom het.
Al wat jy nou kan doen is iemand te kry om die garage plug saam met ander plugs te koppel en nie die geyser nie...
@@p0we111 Hi Jean, Ok 100%, ek maak so, baie dankie.......🙏
South African . . . within 10 seconds
I was told by my plumber to put it off. So confusing!
Hi. If you mean just bypass the timer and not use it as a "power saving device". I would say it does not always safe money.
I had a couple install one and only saved $10 on their monthly bill. It was not worth the inconvenience.
A single person I know saved 30% of his monthly bill but worked around the inconvenience. His hot water cylinder was very well insulted and only needed switching on every 2nd day...
@@p0we111 does this mean geyser timer is not efficient to saving power which lead to reducing bills?
@@sekedimaake8791 It all depends on your situation. Some people save a lot of money,some dont as they want to shower 2 times a day and gave 4 people living in one house so switching the geyser off for 2 to 3 hours a day is not worth is...
@@p0we111 thank you very much
I appreciate
Why do you need these are old ideas??. Today we have wifi switches which can be programmed to switch on or off through App in all possible ways. Say good bye to this old stuff now.
Totally agree Rupesh, but living in a 3rd world country and being on a budget this will work for you.
Dankie dit het my baie geld en tyd gespaar
Nice sir