I love that conservatives think forced birth will make women discover mother hood, and not just be crappy mothers. My mom was a deadbeat and could never remember my birthday…the day she birthed me without an epidural. And I got lucky. My mom doesn’t hate me, just has other priorities. I know plenty of people whose mothers resent their existence. You can force birth but you can’t force parenthood. And these same conservatives don’t believe in social supports for kids who aren’t supported at home.
and how does forced-birth force the man to be a father? if that was a thing that regularly happened human society would be extremely different. it’s wild they’re talking about things like we have no evidence of what actually happens to kids when their parents don’t want them when in reality it’s not hard to find out already and it’s not good and like is said above, they’re defunding any support those families and kids could maybe get
You are right, but these people do not care about loving one’s children. Their goal isn’t creating a society with emotionally healthy families, but following prescribed roles and functions. If you’re a man you “must” fulfill role A, and if you’re a woman then role B. Happiness is secondary, that is why so many are religious. Their dogmatic views supercedes everything, including their own inner voices telling them how miserable they really are, but they keep trying to gaslight themselves into believing that “real happiness” is not an emotion, but a way of life. So of course when they see people living in a different manner to them and actually feeling fulfilled they go into a frenzy, because such people are irrefutable proof that they have been cheated, but instead of retaliating against the belief system that is harming them they attack who they consider is the immediate cause of their pain. Because Lifting up the veil of their failed beliefs is too difficult and painful for them. They need to stopped regardless.
It's cognitive dissonance. They think that women, deep down, really just want to stay at home and raise children, and that the only thing standing in their way is "FeMiNiSm".
I'm so tired as a career woman being told that my only value is as a breeder. I bought my house by myself, I'm proud of my academic and career achievements. I was a valedictorian above all the dudes in my graduating class. Two degrees summa cum laude. I'm not just a breeding sow.
The worst part is, the minute you try to feel proud about your achievements, people say, "But you're in a world that was built by men, you're collectively protected by men, the least you can do is serve them to eternity." And I'm someone who truly respects good men but I'm a person too. I don't want to be just an accessory. I have a name.
@@yangene That's a pretty goofy point to make since women were literally not allowed to participate in building the world. Men definitely do not protect women or children, either. So, no. I will not serve a man.
I know too many women who got married very young, left their jobs to become mothers, years later regret being so controlled by their husbands, but they can’t do/say anything because they don’t have money, they don’t have jobs, they can’t get a job because they don’t have any experiences. Don’t tell me that conservatives treat their wives well.
@@criticclips1560 touch grass. My aunt got married when she was 22 and had three kids. 15 years later, she lives alone and work like a slave, and because her husband “chooses” to work away. She started teaching again and her husband, who earns x10 times more than her, stopped giving her the allowance for expenses at home. My neighbor, get physically abused by her husbands and everyone knows and still no one does or say anything about it. My cousin got physical with her wife, who gave birth 5 months prior, and he broke her nose. Everyone convinced her to stay and not to tell her parents,’so she still married to that ahole. My female cousin, doesn’t go to parties because her husband gets drunk and starts fights/argues with everyone, and they’ve only been married for 5 years. Do you want me to go on?? Would you feel good when one day, you’re old and fragile, you remember all the bad things you did/said about women?? Treating women with respect and kindness, doesn’t make you a less of a man. It makes you human.
Walsh seriously is saying that having children is natural for women and being married in a het relationship with children is the original source of happiness. If it is so natural and such a great source of joy why then does he feel the need to enforce compliance with his concept of a 'womanly' and 'manly' life through laws and policies that makes everything else impossible?
Womanhood isn’t about giving birth or taking care of a man and a baby. It’s about being yourself. Not every woman has to give birth to be a true woman, matt walsh.
@@seabreeze4559🎀Don’t be so judgmental. Many of us have our own bank accounts abs even used to work. But unfortunately for some of us….Our husbands used conservatism to become abusive.
@@autumnhomer9786in the most literal sense of the word a tradwife cannot have any source of income, the men is the whole provider of everything so you would be actually a stay at home wife, which is nothing wrong thou but conservatives love to spread this lie that women should go back to become housewives like the traditional housewives without taking a moment to realize it’s almost impossible for the average women to do that in this economy and that even traditional housewives had complaints of that lifestyle
There's been a spate of conservative women complaining because "my husband doesn't see me as an equal". Well, when you vote for the "Leopards Eating Faces Party"...
I’ve been a woman my whole life and I don’t know what they mean by embrace womanhood. It’s so cringe to me. I’m just living my life, trying to be a good person, and I’m a woman. Are there more steps?
If we don't get to define their manhood then they can stfu about our womanhood. They spend so much energy ignoring our issues that we're all just a collective avatar anyways
„Trying to be a good person“ - there‘s the first mistake, you‘re supposed to be livestock for breeding and domestic labor, not something that thinks it’s a person. You’ll have to work on that attitude if you want to find a high-value man like these fine examples of masculinity at the DW.
Now you know how these alpha male think-tanks operate on a daily basis. Constantly holding approval over your head so you have to chase something more to give yourself any approval or praise. To mock you unless you've climbed the social ladder and tell you that you're worthless and unmanly unless you're able to attract a mate, or multiple.
Apparently, you need to be something akin to Mother Merry, or some other mythical self-sacrificing being that only has one program - nurturing, and no real human emotions.
Bro, nobody can afford to drop out of the workforce and be a parent, Matt Walsh is so disconnected from the average American he might as well have a studio on Pluto.
Like Candace Owens who married a billionair and have nannies. We often criticizes celebrities for being disconnected but they are not very different than the people they critic
@@BAdtnl- One thing that won't happen is a sudden drop in male unemployment to fill those gaps. Losing half the workforce means losing a lot of consumers. The husbands are still making whatever they made, but now covering other expenses (clothes for wives and children, food for wives and children, medical care for wives and children, and so on). Unless they're dickheads, that means less expensive food and clothing, and fewer of their preferred spare-time activities. The women are also not spending as much. Combine the two, and demand for various goods and services drops. Businesses close. OmniMegaConsumer Corp snaps up hundreds of smaller companies and builds their SuperDuperEverything Center, which can now pay as little as it wants and charge rather more than necessary.
Right!? My husband and I both work full time and that barely covers the bills. All time high prices for rent, houses, cars, gas, utilities, groceries. If I had a kid right now and stopped working for even a day that kid wouldn't get food. They can't force kids on broke people and expect them to nail it.
As soon as you show even a hint of age or the wear and tear of pregnancy on your body, they might turn you in for a "newer model." Nevermind the fact that you go through nine months of possible physical and emotional turmoil, something that they could never fully understand even if they wanted to, to give birth to not just yours but THEIR child. There's no respect to be found. I wish I could be viewed as the full human being that I am; thoughts, feelings, aspirations, a career, hobbies... bodily autonomy included... I wish I could be seen as a person.
A woman being seen as always in need of a "protector", and unable to live by herself, is a classic patriarchal belief. From father to husband to son, and if they die, the responsibility of her life falls on the closest male relatives - a structure often defended in the name of "protection", but really it only exists/-ed because patriarchs put women in the same category as children, thinking them no more mentally capable to protect and care for themselves than a child. Oh and most of them don't treat children right either. See who's pro corporal punishment and so called "parents rights", aka parents raising their child however they like, even at the expense of a child's basic rights to an education, safety, freedom, healthcare. I'm currently reading about Christian pro slavery arguments, which often compared slavery to marriage, specifically a slave's obedience to the master, compared to a wife's obedience to her husband and a child's to the father. Saying all three are godly and good and for "protection" of the slave/wife/child. They also pointed out how much marriage is like slavery, just like some feminists years afterwards- except the pro slavery Christians made the analogy while supporting all three.
because women are pulling back, i've seen men comment things like, "well since you don't need a man, we won't protect you." which means that they aren't natural protectors for the sake of humanity. they only "protect" if they feel like they're getting something out of it. it's more likely that a woman will step in and help me than a man.
So they hate when women don't put out, but hate when women do. And now we have to deal with men wanting baby printers. I used to want that white fence, 1 or 2 kids, housewife life style. But at this point I would be risking my health, my safety, and my livelihood because of these laws they want to implement. I'll rather be single and happy with family and friends than gamble my life road for a random guy I might like.
I heard one of the conservative said he wants wife that would give him, a lot of kids "said at least 7", take care of him and their kids and the house... And wants her not to get too comfortable and gain weight. He wants her to watch her diet and his diet too, and workout daily so he wouldn't lost his attraction to her. He said a nice slim body shape means more attractiveness which gonna lead to better and more enjoyable sx for both them.... They said they're ok with stretch marks that women get from pregnancy, but they're not ok with gaining weight after popping 10 kids out because that means their wives are lazy and don't care about their body.... It's funny how some men think a woman that take care of the house, husband, and 10 kids alone should have the time and the energy to workout to lose weight and have that flat stomach again.
@Roslyn.W.R absolutely insane. I'm a SAHD for 2 kids. Between home maintenance, domestic work, meaningfully raising the kids, having quality time with my wife, and making time for the extended family, I hardly ever get time for me. These people are delusional and someone else in their life has always done tbe bulk of the work.
@@justr6982 exactly.... I think they believe that at stay at home moms/ dads work for half an hr to an hr a day, and spend the rest of the day between eating, social media and sleeping only.
I dont think they realize soap operas weren't invented so a woman could eat bon bons on the couch. It was because of the massive amount of ironing woman had to do. Hence the repeating plot lines, they knew people werent really paying attention when their program was on. A pleasent distraction so woman didnt go mad from the never ending chore list and an option to mother's little helper.
I love how conservatives keep saying women may discover that they are happier fulfilling their lives as mothers and wives... who is stopping them from doing so? How does my decision, as a woman, to use contraceptive deny another woman her right to not use it, if she so chooses? All the women in the world can choose to be wives and mothers, but that does not mean I have to as well, and I can stop those actions from taking place. And I say this as a wife and a mother. That was my choice. And I respect anyone's choice to not become a spouse or parent. And when walsh says 'more women will get pregnant, drop out of the work force and find they are happier in their womanhood', he doesn't acknowledge that some women will not find themselves to be happier after getting pregnant and dropping out of the workforce, and are in fact, in worse situations. And, what about women who are already wives and mothers, but don't want to have 10 kids? are they denied contraceptives too? oooh, i have so much thoughts on this. It really boils my blood.
He knows some women would be absolutely miserable if they got pregnant and had to become mothers. It's just that he doesn't care. He says what he wants young, impressionable people to believe, not what's true.
false equivalence fallacy meanwhile many women are now "one and done" so he's wrong again and it's like he's never heard of postpartum depression like how?
same, the fact they simplify what makes women happy like we are creatures, not humans. and how they think thats a good thing for all women to somehow enjoy motherhood when the reality is, no. not all women want to be or make good mothers and wives, thats why they should have the choice. its not good for the kids either to be born from someone who was forced into it and if had the choice, would not have became a mother.
And a lot of men don't want to be parents, either. Some may want to make babies, but don't want to parent them. So these guys are now married, with children they don't want to care for, unable to live their bachelor lives...and then blame the women they coerced into marriage and motherhood.
I know a lot of stay at home wives and moms because I’ve been Christian my entire life… I don’t know a single one who is happy and fulfilled. Sorry but the women at church are miserable. I cannot discuss my life with them because they get upset. I’ve recently started to deconstruct so I’m just in a different place right now but when they insist that’s how women find fulfillment they’re flat out lying.
Agreed, I have never seen a happy stay at home mom. Lots of different cultures make stay at home moms too so it's not like a specific thing went wrong either. The worst thing is the unhappy stay at home moms who are too afraid to say they are unhappy, because it means *they* failed somehow.
Some are, but how many married women who stay at home have side-hustles out of boredom? The author who brags about being a stay-at-home wife has her writing to keep her going and to bring in money. A woman who works from home while raising the kids and keeping the house isn't fulfilled by caregiving. There's a reason for the cliche of the suburban housewife and the milkman (or cable guy, or whoever), and it's frustration and boredom with being housebound and other-directed all day, every day.
Same here. The vast majority of my female friends, acquaintances, and family members are in marriages of convenience. There's no real passion or fulfillment there. What's even more unsettling, is how they try convince other single women to settle down, as well. Giving advice on how to attract a suitable spouse, when they themselves can't. Its almost as if they got married just to fit in, have been raised to think their only purpose in life is to build their lives around a man, or have an irrational fear of being alone. They always ask, when am I going to get married or have children. Not about my hobbies, career goals, physical health, or financial stability. Not to mention, psychological studies show that single and/or child free women are more happy than married females. That's not including the statistical data that proves marriage benefits men more than women. We've been lied to our entire lives.
@@deamorebeaute2412 Preach. I've been told to get married and have kids my entire life. It was seen as optional for my brother, but not for me. I'm lucky now to be with a man who respects my decision to never marry or be a mother.
I also grew up in a highly religious atmosphere and witnessed every single man there treat their wives like garbage. I found out later just how miserable so many of those women were, including my mother. The shit they have been brainwashed to put up with from their husbands is revolting.
I’m glad I’ve distanced myself from republican politics mainly “identity politics” in gaming I agree with some of republican stuff but these days people like Ben Matt Walsh the quartering etc are ruining it
As an assexual who isn't into sex but is a perv, I laugh at their hate. Sex is interesting, powerful, funny, weird, and at times beautiful. As long it's consentual, it cool even if I'm not a part of it
@@michaelhaydenbellI guess the easiest way to explain is that the sexual fantasy gives enough satisfaction that there’s no need to enact it physically- there’s other things to do. At least that’s how I can best explain my asexuality!! (As someone married)
@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most this is clearly a joke point out how women are always referred to as the emotional ones while men are the rational/logical ones.
I always hated the conservatives talking about the side effects of the pill because they all talk about it in absolutes. Not everyone on the pill experiences all the side effects at the same intensity just like any other medication.
I mean the mean does suck and it sucks that women are still expected to bear the most invasive aspects of contraception but for a lot of women it's either that or CHILDBIRTH (which I'm told is unpleasant)
What I hate even more when they discuss the dangers of birth control is that they never fully take into consideration that child birth isn't just extremely difficult and painful. It's also far more medically risky (and potentially life threatening) than any form of birth control
@dejinn7765 Pregnancy almost killed me. I had preeclampsia, and I was just lucky that my kiddo was cooked just enough to live (in an incubator). I was in critical condition for two weeks. That was almost two decades ago, and we're both fine now. But yep: pregnancy is a serious experience.
The frustrating part is I’m on birth control because I have severe stage 4 endometriosis. It’s like these idiots also forget that it’s not only used for as a method to stop pregnancy. I swear being a women in this society exhausting. I’m so tired of people dictating my body anatomy. It feels like we’re cattle
same condition here, not on BC because it's a myth that it halts progression, and since it's already stage 4 (same) then there's nothing else it can progress to anyway, is there? the tissue is still there. I don't trust all the side effects like higher cancer risk. as for their motive, they want us to be forced to have an SA baby if that were done TO US
@@ApexALThey actually are. Project 2025 aims to limit access to birth control and recommended that HHS no longer consider abortion a form of health care. It would also allow employers to opt out of birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans. And if you think they wouldn't go further than that, there were those who thought the same when people started warning about the intention to overturn Roe. People need to stop suggesting that women are overreacting.
@@CanItAlready "People need to stop suggesting that women are overreacting" Absolutely right. Breaking that dismissive habit is a tough one though, they've been doing it for thousands of years! It almost seems instinctual in some men.
He isnt miserabler.i see him enjoying in self imoprtance and vitriol he have towards enemy.he think he is good guy though usual thing for western fundemntalist christrians
In the days before reliable birth control, women would attempt to ration sex, even within a marriage, in order to avoid getting pregnant and a good husband was one who was not too demanding of sex. Do men really want to go back to that?
Thank you for pointing out how they NEVER encourage men to wear condoms and that they focus solely on women using contraception. It's genuinely frustrating to see how the right wing will blame women no matter what.
The audacity of Matt Walsh blaming the birth control pill of all things for women not being able to “drop out of the workforce and be a homemaker” when we know damn well it is simply no longer possible for most families to survive on a single income !!!!
For real, I don’t even understand the obsession with forcing women to become homemakers when it’s not even plausible for most! In fact, a lot of women would want to be a “trad wife” but most men can’t even play the trad husband role and fully provide for a family with one income.
I also tend to think, kids will eventually be in school, freeing up time that a woman would likely be able to go back to work. Unless of course, women are also supposed to not just be SAHMs but also homeschool their kids, which is probably what they think.
It's possible to live on one income if you marry a man with a high income and live within your means. You can't do it if you marry a man that can't provide.
Sexual variety doesn't make sex more interesting if you are not interested in sexual variety. Being gay isn't sexual variety, it just means you are orientated towards same sex, it doesn't inherently make you exciting and flamboyant. It just means you can be flamboyant and when people call you gay it won't matter because you are.
@@BriarLeaf00 The Daily Wire complains that people might not want to do what conservatives want to do. That somehow allowing people to do something else is stealing your potential spouse.
It's always men saying how women should feel. Like how tf would they know, they're men? I'd hate to be a young woman in the US right now, with conservatives thinking your only real value is bearing children. I honestly think they're getting more extreme with their views everyday, I dread to think where this could go. Edit. The woman who said women were saying they were different from when they were 14 well duh course they are. Also the pill has more uses than just stopping you get pregnant.
One of the things with the pill that isn’t brought up as often: it allows women to prevent contraception secretly. This helps women in bad situations. It helps prevent children being brought into bad families.
You can always tell a conservative by their complete inability to let people live their own lives. Mary Harrington is free to "rewild" sex if she so chooses, but she is not free to make others do so. And her attempt to co-opt feminism (she's calling it "reactionary feminism") and use it for conservative purposes is so transparently obvious.
@@07Flash11MRC yes, lot of men are bad, I didn't blame all of them, the west views on feminism is totally messed up, I kinda like the feminism totally opposed prostitution
@@AllyRoseGarden "lot of men are bad": I didn't say that. I said it's a system that centers men at the expense of everyone else (women, girls and minorities).
@@seabreeze4559 isn't 4b the best? i literally don't have to think about birth control, abortions, children, domestic violence, or being trapped in a marriage. i'm completely free of these problems if i just leave men alone.
Matt walsh automatically assumes that motherhood and wifehood is enough to keep women happy. However, many traditional wifes are treated by their husbands horribly. A lot of homemakers feel stifled too .
What the hell! Does he not understand that you can have casual sex with someone while still valuing them and seeing them as a person. And likewise you can be in a long term relationship with someone and still not see them as a person. He is talking about a reality that does not exist!
My dad had 4 children to two different women. The first two were with my mother, and they were together for 13 years. The second two were with his current wife, and they've been married for about 10 years. He didn't treat my mother as anything more than a slave, and I can only assume he treats his current wife the same way. He also treated me and my brother horribly, which is why I don't speak with him. Cons really are clueless about how human beings interact with each other.
The fact that there was at one point a male birth control, like the ones for women but it was stopped because the side effects were “too bad” yet were very similar to women’s birth control. That speaks volumes on what our society thinks about women
she's kinda right though. sex is dangerous for women because of the risk of pregnancy. with pregnancy comes the potential risk of dying during childbirth. but i don't think she was thinking in those terms. she wants women to fear sex and that we should feel shameful for feeling sexual desires. moreover, men tend to think of sex as a weapon against women. sex is something they do TO us, not WITH us. so they also believe sex is dangerous for us.
@@hardcandy71287 I will always remember when I told a friend of mine, a guy friend, that I had finally lost my v-card, and he said "I thought you wouldnt give yourself up so easily" (I was like... 25 years old) These kind of little men think we have sex because we give our bodies to someone, we give up or something, as if we werent horny and capable of having orgasms too. I mean, what the fuck? Dont they knopw about the clitoris yet? about how easily we fantasize, at least in my case? I write erotic stories, for fucks sake xDDDD and my fave show is about two male vampires loving and hating each other and loving each other again (interview with the vampire. Watch it. Sooo sexy)
@@CanItAlready😂😂😂 anytime I see him, all I can think of is his WAP review 😂😂 this dude really says squirting is a medical condition 😂😂😂 from a married man, his poor wife has never gotten wet in his presence at least 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. And he also doesn't get exaggeration or hyperbole in art generally
It's about blocking off the exits for women. They pine for the 50s marriage, but don't want to draw attention to the fact that these marriages lasted 40+ years because women literally couldn't leave. They didn't work, had no independent income, had little education, no assets, no money, no credit, no work experience, and faced social stigma for divorce. That's their idea of what marriage is and what women's lives should be like.
If for any reason the pregnancy results in the death of the fetus ,the woman can be charged with murder . Because if you eat right and are careful then theres no reason at all why you wouldnt have a healthy delivery . Thats what will happen . Already happening slowly . Did you see the ad where a young woman is stopped by law enforcement while driving and asked if she might be pregnant ? Evil always tells on itsself .
Ya they r effing insane!!! Project 2025 will be worse than Nazi germany!!! We can’t allow them to win this November or it will be 100 times worse then Nazi germany!!!
Yeah and that without adding their way is wrong man if your wife going to be a housewife don't leave everything to her just because you're the provider i get she'll do most of the house work because she have no job to worry about but do something everyday like laundry or making the bed Also housewife sound have like a part time job to have thier own money or something to not be totally depend incase the marriage fail
@@seabreeze4559- But it's not helping with the housework or other 'womanly' tasks. In a household with children, keeping the house in half-decent shape is a never-ending battle. When Dad's not fixing the mower or rebuilding a chair, he can help with the laundry or the cooking or the sweeping.
The biggest problem is conservative men putting 100% of sexual responsibilities on women. If they are so concerned about sexual morality, marriages and birth of children within marriages, they need to hold men accountable and responsible.
In the US you can technically be a billionaire and support either the republicans or the democrats (which is what conservatives mistake for "the left" only because it's technically left of republicans) because neither one of these parties take any real steps towards limiting extreme wealth accumulation. Your choice as a billionaire then is more down to how much you hate minorities and the disenfranchised and vote R/D accordingly. So when they talk about the "elite left" they actually mean "rich democrat voters". Which is a thing that certainly exists. (They never talk about the even larger stable of ultra-wealthy right-wing republican voters.)
Why does Matt Walsh get to decide what qualifies as full manhood and full womanhood? Coz my full womanhood includes no biological children and me getting my PhD
Why are conservatives always obsessed with the 50's idea of the modern family? Why not go back to the old west? And I mean the REAL old west. Not what you see in movies
The 50s they envision wasn't even real, it was all just marketing and government propaganda. Back then dads were ptsd ridden WW2 vets that passed their trauma down to their children, and America was the most socialist it had ever been. So in a funny way, Conservatives would have actually hated the 50s.
You mean the fantasy of the 1950s family that only existed for rich white people? 😂 I'm 70, and my family was middle class, and my mom worked. And of all the married couples I know in my generation, there is only one couple where the wife is not the primary breadwinner.
Conservatism isn't about returning to there idea of a perfect time, it's about using ideas and misconceptions people have about those times to fight against a perceived problematic progress, they know that the 50s weren't the decade of perfect Americana, alot of them will argue for even further back, it's not about the decade or even the reality of societal function in that decade it is litterally just fear of an ever-changing world.
Elon Musk read the legendary Iain M Banks Culture novels and his main takeaway was "technology is cool" like ok bro you can take a white south african out of apartheid but can you take the apartheid out of the white south african guy with jewels in his pockets and a dad with a mine?
The Culture is also everything that he's against. Full rights for sentient AI's, classless because their technology is so advanced means that there isn't work so there's no class war with no rulers and no proletariat. Individually capable of controlling their gender and appearance, let alone fertility (so if someone wants to be a or trans or switch they can). No money. Iain Banks was also very forthright about his detestation of capitalism in a couple of essays/in character speeches about it. Elon Musk's type of ideal society is more like the world in Heroes Die by Stover. They basically had an explicitly designed caste society modelled after a corporation so you got assigned your caste based on how rich your parents were (so they had Investor, Leisure Class, Administrator, so on). Higher technology. Every time I read about some dork enlightmenment fascist in big tech I think that if they actually read the books they'd think of this as an ideal, not the society that the protagonist spent four books and most of his life trying to burn to the ground because there was zero possibility of things ever changing otherwise.
… I’m saying this as a cis female who is a sex-repulsed asexual. I’m on birth control and have been on some sort of birth control since I was 11. Physical adult activities had nothing to do with why. I have very irregular and painful periods and without being on the pill I can’t figure out when my time of the month is coming. When it does and I’m not on the pill, the cramps are so bad that I’m unable to function as a human being. Many other women use birth control for the same reason, and sex doesn’t have a thing to do with it. Can someone explain to these idiots that medicine is actually medicine? Also the Kamasutra proves is a thing. FYI
As a woman I refuse to be relegated to nothing more than a breeder and house keeper. I've managed without a man for most of my life, and my ex - with whom I had 4 children - was in no way a blessing to me. He was a liar, cheater, and emotionally abusive. Our house was tense at best and often full of his voice belittling and threatening the rest of us. Leaving him and setting us up in a sane, safe home was the best thing for my kids. They've grown up to be independent-thinking, compassionate, kind, hard-working adults who treat others with integrity and respect. Conservatives want to turn the clock back to the damned Dark Ages.
You don't have to go very far back in history to find women who'd had 10-20 pregnancies during their lives. Not all would got to term, not all would be born alive. The toll on women isn't just the raising of children, they've felt the loss of them too. The pill is far from ideal, it's never been completely safe for women. But for many women it's the best option out there. Especially when there are men who object to some methods of contraception because "It doesn't feel as good." Of course, they aren't interested in any sensible discourse on the topic. They literally don't care about women's lives, they just want to control them. Maybe they're frightened of getting left out of The Family, where they can benefit from the general mothering? Women can build perfectly good, loving, supportive, families without a man. Some choose to, some it just happens to, and some have happy egalitarian relationships - even some with men! 😉 I like men, there are men I've loved and still love, many are damn good friends. But I live alone by choice, in my own space. (Where no one can complain about my eating crisps in bed!)
there is a new type of condom called isopropene or something? a plastic, feels like NOTHING, the male pill also exists but men don't want it, they wanna control women by tampering with condoms
@StarryWaters-gq1oj Or that their children were grieved over. As though so many child deaths made it merely a 'shruggable' event. When of course they felt it, every time. I think of one of the Queens in my country, 20 pregnancies and not one surviving child. What with the extra pressure to produce a male heir, it drove the woman insane.
The woman at 19:05 seems to struggle with the idea that a person at 14 is not the same at age 24. And a person at age 24 going off the pill probably has reached a point in their lives where they are ready for significant changes.
I took birth control for PMDD and severe acne as a teen and into my 20's, and I'm celibate. It was life changing in a very positive way for me. Yes, some women do not react well to it, but for many it can help a ton. Just like any other medication.
It was a warning based on actual things that have been done to women, not by individual bad men but by whole societies. And she wrote it because she could see where the Evangelical movement in the 80s would inevitably end up. And here we are, about to see the balkanization of the US and the establishment of Gilead.
Atwood was definitely warning us. The book was written in a time of post-Roe rise in religious conservatism and Christian nationalism. These groups have played the long game and eventually got enough religious Supreme Court backing to overturn Roe after 50 years
@@s7d788 She based it on extreme right-wing Christianity, actually. I say this as someone who believes in Jesus - religion can be twisted into something horrifying when practiced the wrong way. So I read Atwood's books as a warning to myself.
"If you want to enjoy spending time with a consenting adult without tethering yourself to them fro the rest of your mortal existance, you're a psychopath."
@@oOIIIMIIIOo Yeah, I guess so. But also, the term "Machiavellianism" has become so misappropriated when you consider it was originally used as a socio-political term. Nowadays, many people just use it as a justification to their own personal entitlement by making a rationale out of their own hyperbolic ideas.. 🤦🤦
@@julietfischer5056wannabe Batman villain? Dude there are THREE +* Batman villains that are evil shrinks. Hugo Strange Scarecrow Dr. Hurt Harley Quinn* *semi-reformed.
If monogamy was so great they wouldn't have to find ways to force it on people. They genuinely cannot understand how marriage is a shitty deal for women. When women have control over their own bodies, they don't rush out to get married and have babies. Crazy!
You want women able to be homemakers and caregivers? Set up UBI, caregiving credits for pension, extensive programs to support children, returnships for post caregiving professionals, and everything else to have them feel like they are not trapping themselves.
If women drop out of the workforce to become mothers, how are 90% of them going to eat and not freeze in winter ? Especially with conservative economics ?
Exactly they just want to get rid of all the options for women. Fortunately for me the pill doesn’t give any noticeable side effects. And that’s the thing about conservatives talking about the pill is they act like all the side effects are guaranteed at maximum intensity which is straight up misinformation. No other medication affects everyone 100% the same but apparently the pill does? Yeah gimme a break.
Even now, if you aren't married with two children, it's damn near impossible to get a hysterectomy. 'You might change your mind' and 'What if you meet a man and he wants children?' are supposed to be 'Gotcha' questions. For the first, there's always adoption, and for the second, that's why you talk honestly with your future spouse.
Imo, I don't believe people should sterilize themselves. You're willing removing a natural part of your body. That usually called mutilation. But that's just my imo.
The side effects of the Pill are not uniformly terrible. Some people have terrible side effects, but that isn't the whole story. If you want to be realistic about the risks of the Pill, you should first look at the risks of pregnancy. The Pill is much, much safer.
A lot of women don't have side effects. It feels like there is fear mongering to make women afraid of the pill. Which is ecectly what the Pro breeders want
Matt Walsh and Jordan Peterson live in a fantasy world with no inkling of the lives of real people before feminism. I’m old and was a child before the pill and feminism so I remember. My mother was raised to be a wife and mother, as was typical for women of her generation. She thought she married well; however, he turned out to be a bipolar alcoholic and was not capable of supporting a family. She raised 3 kids on a meager “pink” collar salary once he abandoned the family. I’m sure there were happy traditional families out there in the ‘50s and ‘60s, but the only friend I knew who had a father at home was routinely beaten by him. I’m so glad I had options that my mother didn’t have.
As a 1990s kid who reads a lot of history, I appreciate reading stories like yours. The tradwife model of the 1950s was discarded for a good reason. It's sad that people of my generation are forgetting. Or rather, are discarding the warnings of previous generation who suffered from rigid gender roles. I've watched the 1970s film version of "The Stepford Wives" and I was horrified.
All Happy family’s are the same, all unhappy family’s are miserable in their unique way if you get the reference your cultured and would make Jordan Peterson proud
JP has his own problems to sort out. And Walsh is not a doctor, not a scientist, not a sociologist, not anything but a privileged guy with zero talent.
Conservatives always think that’s it’s single women on the pill, but married women can also take it if they have had the amount of children they can take care of. Conservatives always give poor people grief for having more kids than they can afford. The pill gives families that option to have the amount they can take care of. Unless they want to start saying that married women should also abstain from sex.
Jordan Peterson says he doesn't believe in casual sex. Yet another in a long line of Prof Dr Peterson playing word games instead of actually getting to any kind of logical point. It's all word games, all day long with this joker.
i never seen someone who can talk in circles the way peterson can. he’s the definition of saying so much while saying nothing at all. and the worst part is that people genuinely think he’s intelligent 😂
It's also kind of mind boggling to think about, because casual sex is the only way to find out if you are sexually compatible for people who are also looking for a long term relationship. Sometimes people get hitched too soon and find out that their partner doesn't "perform" well. That's going to put a real damper on your relationship in the long run. 😅
@@SleepyMatt-zzz Is this the modern day excuse ? lol Casual sex is a disease in society, that's why people can't get into relationships. Imagine getting with someone who's been rammed by 10 other dudes.
that's irresponsible it should have been investigated, the underlying conditions possible are still causing damage e.g. endo, PCOS etc. maybe insulin resistance, oestrogen dominance
It gets a little funny when you remember his WAP cover😂😂 Man's proved his wife got that dry ass dusty Cobb webbed pumpum. And it's totally understandable considering who she's with. Poor woman😢😢
People will have sex regardless, birth control is actually what prevents unhappy families. Men also want to have sex without worrying about producing babies, so who would this benefit? The only people who "benefit" are abusive controling men who hate women, everyone else suffers. Married/monogamous people don't always want kids, maybe they're waiting so they can save up money or something, maybe they already have two kids and don't want more, there's so many reasons, birth control isn't just for people who sleep around. Birth control is also extremely important for medical care, many women need the pill in order to live a normal life, there's so many hormonal/menstrual issues women have, and often birth control is the only treatment for it. I myself take birth control for medical reasons, and it saved my life, I had severe pmdd which made me suicidal for two weeks every single month, after starting birth control I no longer deal with that and can actually function (I was already on antidepressants for years but medications are not made for women, our hormonal cycles are not taken into consideration, so meds don't really help during the two weeks of pms and period). I started birth control at 27, honestly wish I started it sooner, I could have lived better instead of being stuck in a cycle of severe pmdd depression and regular depression. Many women have periods so severe that they pass out and/or have to be hospitalized, some bleed several times a month or even nonstop for months (go to the gynecologist if you are experiencing any of these things, it is common but not normal) birth control isn't a fix all but it helps regulate the hormonal cycle which can alleviate or reduce the severity of symptoms. Birth control is also the only treatment for endometriosis, which a large percentage of women have (I have it myself). Needless to say, birth control is a medical necessity, and denying women access to it is a huge infringement on our rights.
In fairness, for Ben, "sexual novelty" just means moisture. "And that stretches all the way to the top... whatever the top is..." Ok, well, if they don't know what the top is, I can understand their confusion.
@@tamiausten873 pretty much since ben and his sister Abbie railed against the song and video in a weird united effort to pinpoint real women and wives don't talk about their w.a.p.s. Real women and wives are unconcerned about such trivial matters i.e. if their husbands are pleasing them. #sisthatsaproblemifitainthappening.
These conversations exhaust me. The Conservative position begins from the point of view that women cant be trusted with our own bodies. My grandmother was a Catholic. She had 12 children. 4 died in childbirth. She had her last child at 42. Her husband died when her last child was 2 leaving her to raise the kids alone. There was no social security in the uk at this time. She said that she was glad that my grandfather died when he did because if he hadnt she would have. This influenced me. Im now menopausal and able to look back at my relationship with the pill and sex critically. I am grateful for the pill. It has been important for my health. Managing my unmanageable periods. It has ment that i was able to enjoy casual sex as well as sex with long term partners. I started my childrearing story at the point where my grandmother stopped. I have one child, the child that i cherish and can afford to provide for. I have a career that i enjoy. I am single and i am happy. I may venture back into the world of dating when it suits me and my family. Casual sex can be fun and sex in relationships can enhance intimacy and conection. Locking yourself in the bedroom because you are afraid that your husband will demand sex and you are genuinely afraid you will die if you have another child sounds like hell on earth to me. Love you nan ❤
Women are creators, men are not. They would never willingly become the creators because it is difficult and dangerous, but they still hate us for having that power. Everything they hate women for beyond that is because of that.
It's sad, and I have no answer. I wish human beings could just stop oppressing each other and see each other as friends, but that seems like a pipe dream.
The Bible says it. Adam blames Eve for sinning, calling Eve "that woman you gave me". But God puts the responsibility heavily on Adam. Also, because of sin the "man will dominate the woman" and the "woman will have unhealthy craving/ relationship for her husband/man".
That woman from the Heritage Foundation using some people's real suffering to serve her reactionary agenda is infuriating. I did suffer from the side effects of the pill, ended up being heavily medicated for depression, insomnia and mood disorder from 16 to 22 yrs old. Yet, what was wrong in that situation was not the access to contraception itself but 1) the lack of information from doctors on the possible side effects of the medication they prescribe and 2) the lack of scientific research for better options. Even if the pill is not for me, it is life-changing for many women!
Matt Walsh knows nothing about the pill and women in general. I’ve been on it since I was 16 because I have a chronic pain condition called endometriosis that causes unbearable periods. It can also affect my fertility. Even now, in a stable happy long term relationship with someone I intend to marry, I take the pill and have an IUD to control my chronic pain. It’s never gone, but it’s so much easier to manage with birth control. The pill isn’t bad for me, it saved me years of excruciating pain. This is nothing against women who use the pill to prevent pregnancy. You do you, I support you 10000% always. I just think Matt Walsh has no idea people take the pill for other things too.
Um… when people had “casual sex” during ancient times, it usually involved slavery and/or prostitution, which was often dangerous and forced. In other words, it was only “casual” for the men involved. This is why I don’t actually object as much to what Peterson said about casual sex. So often, it’s only “casual” for the man who wants no-strings-attached sex and who is more likely to act selfish in bed if he knows it’s just a one-off encounter. Women, on the other hand, still have to navigate the risks of potential pregnancy, higher likelihood of STDs, violence, and rape. There’s nothing “casual” about it. But just as right-wing men want women to be private property, left-wing men want women as public property, which often underlies their true motivation behind defending women’s reproductive rights. That being said, even without casual sex on the table, limiting women’s control over their bodies and forcing them to be dependent upon men is dangerous to women, children, and families in general. God forbid women are forced into Matt Walsh’s tradwife utopia and their husband gets laid off, or gets injured and can’t work, or decides to upgrade to a younger model. How is this woman supposed to take care of her family then? What marketable skills would she have that would bring in enough money to provide for her children? The trad wife to single mom pipeline is real and it’s completely idiotic to pretend otherwise.
20:47 learning that they glorify past empires with heavily pagan roots to justify Christian Ideals is laughable. Rome did not reach its glory because they eventually embraced Christianity. When Christians were the oppressed minority in Rome, it was already an empire. They were ruling over the Jews at the dated time of Jesus' birth for crying out loud!
The best part is that adopting Christianity did little or nothing to halt the decline of the empire, thus refuting the religious right's farcical claims about Christian societies lasting forever through the divine favor of Magic Sky Man.
The speaker from the Heritage Foundation does have a valid point about the side effects that can occur from taking the contraceptive pill. In fact she underplays them somewhat, since there can be serious effects on physical health (elevated cancer risk) as well as the more common effects on mood and mental health..... HOWEVER, her conclusions do not seem to be logical if the intended result is harm reduction (restrict the pill to return "the danger" to sex?!) Her points do demonstrate in more ways than one just how far we still are from a genuinely equal and feminist society. Women have always been the ones to suffer from the societal "rules" around sex and pregnancy. While the pill (and safe, legal abortions) have been a way to free them from some of the consequences of our sexist sexual mores and provide them finally with a degree of control over their own sexual and reproductive decisions, we have failed to even the burden. Women are still the ones bearing the burden, making the decisions and dealing with the mental and physical side effects of contraception which are so much worse than they need to be because of ingrained sexist and puritanical attitudes affecting the mediacal and pharmaceutical sectors, and _still_ having to deal with the consequences when it fails. All the while being attacked by bigots who think they're sluts or immoral, or are "destroying society" despite appareently ignoring the necessary contribution men must be making to all these "evils". If you have a partner for whom pregnancy is a possibility, talk to them about contraception.
As to the likes of Peterson and Walsh, it's always interesting to note how these Small-State, Individualist, Libertarian personal freedom types suddenly become perfectly happy advocating to legislate away people's rights to make what they see as "poor decisions" when those people are women and their decisions might limit the potential choices available to men. They really do see women more as property than as people.
Exactly!!! All this is gonna do is make all women not have sex with men ever again!! Why would we risk dying with a dead fetus rotting inside us cause abortion is banned or risking diseases cause contraception is banned!! They r literally cucking themselves!!!! They r gonna be completely sex less!!! Then you’ll see how quickly they wish casual sex would come back!!!
What? She thinks the pill has psychoactive subatances in it? What? No, lady, that's is indeed you being not well and in need of treatment. This is not on the pill.
The interactions of the hormones in birth control pills with the hormones in a woman's body produce any and all effects (for good or ill). These people....
She's not completely wrong though. The pill has many medical uses beyond prevention & ppl should be allowed make their own medical & lifestyle choices without added judgement or interference. HOWEVER, some forms of birth control cause the body to simulate some hormonal aspects of pregnancy which is why the body doesn't release an egg. It has been studied & found that it can mess with the mind & body in various ways because it doesn't allow the body to regulate those hormone levels naturally. It has all kinds of uses, but ppl should be just as informed about some of the risks so they can make fully educated decisions for themselves.
As a young man on the cusp of adulthood I remarked to what I would describe as a "Conservative" man years ago on how I found a 20- something woman to be attractive. This individual spun on me, rage and disgust on his face, and he spat out "Boy, once they are fifteen they`re over the hill!" Truly disgusting.
These dudes also refuse to accept that most men won't be the primary breadwinner anymore. Either because they can't afford to or they want to use the woman's income to subsidize their lifestyle.
I'm a heterosexual man, I'm meant to be the target audience of these guys, and yet everything they say just sounds awful and depressing. I mean, why do some people fall for it? What is the appeal? I just don't get it, what is attractive about their ideology or the way they want society to be? It all just sounds horrible, like is half the world just full of massochist's and people who love being in service of rich people?
For my own physical health im deciding that I am not going to watch this video now but to watch it tomorrow cause its 5 am where I live but I just wanted to give you props and encourage your fight for womens rights
Narcissists are often quick to secure people in a relationship so they can get their hooks in and control their partner, they’re not likely to be cool with casual relationships. It’s just flat out hating, cry me a river
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I love that conservatives think forced birth will make women discover mother hood, and not just be crappy mothers. My mom was a deadbeat and could never remember my birthday…the day she birthed me without an epidural. And I got lucky. My mom doesn’t hate me, just has other priorities. I know plenty of people whose mothers resent their existence. You can force birth but you can’t force parenthood. And these same conservatives don’t believe in social supports for kids who aren’t supported at home.
Yes, this
He doesn't care, as long as they're subservient.
and how does forced-birth force the man to be a father? if that was a thing that regularly happened human society would be extremely different.
it’s wild they’re talking about things like we have no evidence of what actually happens to kids when their parents don’t want them when in reality it’s not hard to find out already and it’s not good
and like is said above, they’re defunding any support those families and kids could maybe get
You are right, but these people do not care about loving one’s children. Their goal isn’t creating a society with emotionally healthy families, but following prescribed roles and functions. If you’re a man you “must” fulfill role A, and if you’re a woman then role B. Happiness is secondary, that is why so many are religious. Their dogmatic views supercedes everything, including their own inner voices telling them how miserable they really are, but they keep trying to gaslight themselves into believing that “real happiness” is not an emotion, but a way of life. So of course when they see people living in a different manner to them and actually feeling fulfilled they go into a frenzy, because such people are irrefutable proof that they have been cheated, but instead of retaliating against the belief system that is harming them they attack who they consider is the immediate cause of their pain. Because Lifting up the veil of their failed beliefs is too difficult and painful for them. They need to stopped regardless.
It's cognitive dissonance. They think that women, deep down, really just want to stay at home and raise children, and that the only thing standing in their way is "FeMiNiSm".
I'm so tired as a career woman being told that my only value is as a breeder. I bought my house by myself, I'm proud of my academic and career achievements. I was a valedictorian above all the dudes in my graduating class. Two degrees summa cum laude. I'm not just a breeding sow.
This part.
The worst part is, the minute you try to feel proud about your achievements, people say, "But you're in a world that was built by men, you're collectively protected by men, the least you can do is serve them to eternity."
And I'm someone who truly respects good men but I'm a person too. I don't want to be just an accessory. I have a name.
Oh this the energy I'm tryna emulate in a couple years when I graduate. May it be written in the stars
@@Trevor3804 Good luck to you!
@@yangene That's a pretty goofy point to make since women were literally not allowed to participate in building the world. Men definitely do not protect women or children, either. So, no. I will not serve a man.
I know too many women who got married very young, left their jobs to become mothers, years later regret being so controlled by their husbands, but they can’t do/say anything because they don’t have money, they don’t have jobs, they can’t get a job because they don’t have any experiences.
Don’t tell me that conservatives treat their wives well.
No you don't.
@@criticclips1560"No you don't" what?
@@criticclips1560 touch grass. My aunt got married when she was 22 and had three kids. 15 years later, she lives alone and work like a slave, and because her husband “chooses” to work away.
She started teaching again and her husband, who earns x10 times more than her, stopped giving her the allowance for expenses at home.
My neighbor, get physically abused by her husbands and everyone knows and still no one does or say anything about it.
My cousin got physical with her wife, who gave birth 5 months prior, and he broke her nose. Everyone convinced her to stay and not to tell her parents,’so she still married to that ahole.
My female cousin, doesn’t go to parties because her husband gets drunk and starts fights/argues with everyone, and they’ve only been married for 5 years.
Do you want me to go on??
Would you feel good when one day, you’re old and fragile, you remember all the bad things you did/said about women??
Treating women with respect and kindness, doesn’t make you a less of a man. It makes you human.
@@criticclips1560she is literally just describing the past generations at this point. Basically the reason why feminism was invented
@@bgos4727 Feminism is applicable to the West.
Walsh seriously is saying that having children is natural for women and being married in a het relationship with children is the original source of happiness. If it is so natural and such a great source of joy why then does he feel the need to enforce compliance with his concept of a 'womanly' and 'manly' life through laws and policies that makes everything else impossible?
Bingo. Make Valium great again, I guess.
It obviously didn’t even work for his own marriage
Exactly!!!
He also supports forcing pregnancy on minors. It wouldn't surprise me if he has CP.
@@sisuguillam5109 because he's a natural born liar for cash dollars, that's why.
Womanhood isn’t about giving birth or taking care of a man and a baby. It’s about being yourself.
Not every woman has to give birth to be a true woman, matt walsh.
Not every woman is fertile to begin with and not every woman is hetero lol
Womanhood is to serve someone else and nothing about being a human being
Meanwhile a whole bunch of tradwives are genuinely waking up to how extremely broke and abandoned they're going to be.
Yeah also i remember the queer kiwi saying if your going to be a housewife have aside job to have some money if the marriage goes downhill
they didn't want their own bank account, remember?
@@seabreeze4559🎀Don’t be so judgmental. Many of us have our own bank accounts abs even used to work. But unfortunately for some of us….Our husbands used conservatism to become abusive.
@@autumnhomer9786in the most literal sense of the word a tradwife cannot have any source of income, the men is the whole provider of everything so you would be actually a stay at home wife, which is nothing wrong thou but conservatives love to spread this lie that women should go back to become housewives like the traditional housewives without taking a moment to realize it’s almost impossible for the average women to do that in this economy and that even traditional housewives had complaints of that lifestyle
There's been a spate of conservative women complaining because "my husband doesn't see me as an equal". Well, when you vote for the "Leopards Eating Faces Party"...
I’ve been a woman my whole life and I don’t know what they mean by embrace womanhood. It’s so cringe to me. I’m just living my life, trying to be a good person, and I’m a woman. Are there more steps?
If we don't get to define their manhood then they can stfu about our womanhood. They spend so much energy ignoring our issues that we're all just a collective avatar anyways
„Trying to be a good person“ - there‘s the first mistake, you‘re supposed to be livestock for breeding and domestic labor, not something that thinks it’s a person.
You’ll have to work on that attitude if you want to find a high-value man like these fine examples of masculinity at the DW.
Now you know how these alpha male think-tanks operate on a daily basis. Constantly holding approval over your head so you have to chase something more to give yourself any approval or praise. To mock you unless you've climbed the social ladder and tell you that you're worthless and unmanly unless you're able to attract a mate, or multiple.
dont worry, these folks would be the first to tell you having XX chromosomes is the only thing you need to be a woman.
Apparently, you need to be something akin to Mother Merry, or some other mythical self-sacrificing being that only has one program - nurturing, and no real human emotions.
Bro, nobody can afford to drop out of the workforce and be a parent, Matt Walsh is so disconnected from the average American he might as well have a studio on Pluto.
That’s what I was thinking!! Also what does he think will happen if up to 50% of the workforce just ✨disappears✨ to be a sahw/sahm
Like Candace Owens who married a billionair and have nannies. We often criticizes celebrities for being disconnected but they are not very different than the people they critic
@@BAdtnl- One thing that won't happen is a sudden drop in male unemployment to fill those gaps. Losing half the workforce means losing a lot of consumers. The husbands are still making whatever they made, but now covering other expenses (clothes for wives and children, food for wives and children, medical care for wives and children, and so on). Unless they're dickheads, that means less expensive food and clothing, and fewer of their preferred spare-time activities. The women are also not spending as much. Combine the two, and demand for various goods and services drops. Businesses close. OmniMegaConsumer Corp snaps up hundreds of smaller companies and builds their SuperDuperEverything Center, which can now pay as little as it wants and charge rather more than necessary.
@@em499😅married to a Billionaire yet she won’t stay home and raise her children. Interesting 🤔
Right!? My husband and I both work full time and that barely covers the bills. All time high prices for rent, houses, cars, gas, utilities, groceries. If I had a kid right now and stopped working for even a day that kid wouldn't get food. They can't force kids on broke people and expect them to nail it.
Conservatives: "Marriage is sacred. Women are baby mills."
Also conservatives: "If my wife gets fat, after having my kids, I'm divorcing her!"
basically yes
As soon as you show even a hint of age or the wear and tear of pregnancy on your body, they might turn you in for a "newer model." Nevermind the fact that you go through nine months of possible physical and emotional turmoil, something that they could never fully understand even if they wanted to, to give birth to not just yours but THEIR child. There's no respect to be found. I wish I could be viewed as the full human being that I am; thoughts, feelings, aspirations, a career, hobbies... bodily autonomy included... I wish I could be seen as a person.
@emmahilburn1732 They want traditional wives but don’t want to be traditional husbands
That is not it. That's incell talk not "conservative men" talking point.
"And that's clearly not a no-fault divorce. She's at fault"
By "we want to protect women" they actually mean they view women as property not human beings.
Exactly! Respecting what women want doesn`t factor into protecting women to them.
@@anthill1510 They never wanted to "protect women" to begin with.
@@223Drone Yeah, I think what they mean is "control my property".
A woman being seen as always in need of a "protector", and unable to live by herself, is a classic patriarchal belief. From father to husband to son, and if they die, the responsibility of her life falls on the closest male relatives - a structure often defended in the name of "protection", but really it only exists/-ed because patriarchs put women in the same category as children, thinking them no more mentally capable to protect and care for themselves than a child.
Oh and most of them don't treat children right either. See who's pro corporal punishment and so called "parents rights", aka parents raising their child however they like, even at the expense of a child's basic rights to an education, safety, freedom, healthcare.
I'm currently reading about Christian pro slavery arguments, which often compared slavery to marriage, specifically a slave's obedience to the master, compared to a wife's obedience to her husband and a child's to the father. Saying all three are godly and good and for "protection" of the slave/wife/child. They also pointed out how much marriage is like slavery, just like some feminists years afterwards- except the pro slavery Christians made the analogy while supporting all three.
because women are pulling back, i've seen men comment things like, "well since you don't need a man, we won't protect you." which means that they aren't natural protectors for the sake of humanity. they only "protect" if they feel like they're getting something out of it. it's more likely that a woman will step in and help me than a man.
So they hate when women don't put out, but hate when women do. And now we have to deal with men wanting baby printers.
I used to want that white fence, 1 or 2 kids, housewife life style. But at this point I would be risking my health, my safety, and my livelihood because of these laws they want to implement.
I'll rather be single and happy with family and friends than gamble my life road for a random guy I might like.
I heard one of the conservative said he wants wife that would give him, a lot of kids "said at least 7", take care of him and their kids and the house... And wants her not to get too comfortable and gain weight. He wants her to watch her diet and his diet too, and workout daily so he wouldn't lost his attraction to her. He said a nice slim body shape means more attractiveness which gonna lead to better and more enjoyable sx for both them....
They said they're ok with stretch marks that women get from pregnancy, but they're not ok with gaining weight after popping 10 kids out because that means their wives are lazy and don't care about their body.... It's funny how some men think a woman that take care of the house, husband, and 10 kids alone should have the time and the energy to workout to lose weight and have that flat stomach again.
@Roslyn.W.R absolutely insane. I'm a SAHD for 2 kids. Between home maintenance, domestic work, meaningfully raising the kids, having quality time with my wife, and making time for the extended family, I hardly ever get time for me.
These people are delusional and someone else in their life has always done tbe bulk of the work.
@@justr6982 exactly.... I think they believe that at stay at home moms/ dads work for half an hr to an hr a day, and spend the rest of the day between eating, social media and sleeping only.
You just can't win with these people.
I dont think they realize soap operas weren't invented so a woman could eat bon bons on the couch. It was because of the massive amount of ironing woman had to do. Hence the repeating plot lines, they knew people werent really paying attention when their program was on. A pleasent distraction so woman didnt go mad from the never ending chore list and an option to mother's little helper.
It's always conservative men saying we don't need feminism while actively giving me more reasons to keep feminism alive
Women have equality now in the west.
Yessss
It's a bit ironic innit...
@@SelmaAymara Not really ironic; it makes perfect sense that toxic men would be anti-feminist.
I love how conservatives keep saying women may discover that they are happier fulfilling their lives as mothers and wives... who is stopping them from doing so? How does my decision, as a woman, to use contraceptive deny another woman her right to not use it, if she so chooses? All the women in the world can choose to be wives and mothers, but that does not mean I have to as well, and I can stop those actions from taking place. And I say this as a wife and a mother. That was my choice. And I respect anyone's choice to not become a spouse or parent. And when walsh says 'more women will get pregnant, drop out of the work force and find they are happier in their womanhood', he doesn't acknowledge that some women will not find themselves to be happier after getting pregnant and dropping out of the workforce, and are in fact, in worse situations. And, what about women who are already wives and mothers, but don't want to have 10 kids? are they denied contraceptives too? oooh, i have so much thoughts on this. It really boils my blood.
He knows some women would be absolutely miserable if they got pregnant and had to become mothers. It's just that he doesn't care. He says what he wants young, impressionable people to believe, not what's true.
false equivalence fallacy
meanwhile many women are now "one and done" so he's wrong again and it's like he's never heard of postpartum depression like how?
@@hydratejsn get em young approach
same, the fact they simplify what makes women happy like we are creatures, not humans. and how they think thats a good thing for all women to somehow enjoy motherhood when the reality is, no. not all women want to be or make good mothers and wives, thats why they should have the choice. its not good for the kids either to be born from someone who was forced into it and if had the choice, would not have became a mother.
And a lot of men don't want to be parents, either. Some may want to make babies, but don't want to parent them. So these guys are now married, with children they don't want to care for, unable to live their bachelor lives...and then blame the women they coerced into marriage and motherhood.
I know a lot of stay at home wives and moms because I’ve been Christian my entire life… I don’t know a single one who is happy and fulfilled. Sorry but the women at church are miserable. I cannot discuss my life with them because they get upset. I’ve recently started to deconstruct so I’m just in a different place right now but when they insist that’s how women find fulfillment they’re flat out lying.
Agreed, I have never seen a happy stay at home mom. Lots of different cultures make stay at home moms too so it's not like a specific thing went wrong either. The worst thing is the unhappy stay at home moms who are too afraid to say they are unhappy, because it means *they* failed somehow.
Some are, but how many married women who stay at home have side-hustles out of boredom? The author who brags about being a stay-at-home wife has her writing to keep her going and to bring in money. A woman who works from home while raising the kids and keeping the house isn't fulfilled by caregiving.
There's a reason for the cliche of the suburban housewife and the milkman (or cable guy, or whoever), and it's frustration and boredom with being housebound and other-directed all day, every day.
Same here. The vast majority of my female friends, acquaintances, and family members are in marriages of convenience. There's no real passion or fulfillment there. What's even more unsettling, is how they try convince other single women to settle down, as well. Giving advice on how to attract a suitable spouse, when they themselves can't. Its almost as if they got married just to fit in, have been raised to think their only purpose in life is to build their lives around a man, or have an irrational fear of being alone.
They always ask, when am I going to get married or have children. Not about my hobbies, career goals, physical health, or financial stability. Not to mention, psychological studies show that single and/or child free women are more happy than married females. That's not including the statistical data that proves marriage benefits men more than women. We've been lied to our entire lives.
@@deamorebeaute2412 Preach. I've been told to get married and have kids my entire life. It was seen as optional for my brother, but not for me. I'm lucky now to be with a man who respects my decision to never marry or be a mother.
I also grew up in a highly religious atmosphere and witnessed every single man there treat their wives like garbage. I found out later just how miserable so many of those women were, including my mother. The shit they have been brainwashed to put up with from their husbands is revolting.
Man, being a conservative sounds miserable. You can’t have any fun.
I’m glad I’ve distanced myself from republican politics mainly “identity politics” in gaming I agree with some of republican stuff but these days people like Ben Matt Walsh the quartering etc are ruining it
I think that plays a big role in them going crazy and going on 'mental illness' sprees.
If you dance in the woods they'll hang you as a witch.
Fr...
They want you to be as miserable as they are.
Conservatives on intimacy:
If they can't participate, they hate.
Maybe they should get their sexy up instead of their tears.
So basically, they’re just a bunch of incels
As an assexual who isn't into sex but is a perv, I laugh at their hate. Sex is interesting, powerful, funny, weird, and at times beautiful. As long it's consentual, it cool even if I'm not a part of it
@@MayaMaya-ye7rlHow are you a "perv" then?
@@michaelhaydenbellI guess the easiest way to explain is that the sexual fantasy gives enough satisfaction that there’s no need to enact it physically- there’s other things to do. At least that’s how I can best explain my asexuality!! (As someone married)
Men proving they are not rational, they are emotional.
rationalisation is their forte
What they try to pass off as rationality is often just detachment.
🎯🎯🎯
both men and women are emotional lmao
@@jøy_what_riley_loves_the_most this is clearly a joke point out how women are always referred to as the emotional ones while men are the rational/logical ones.
I always hated the conservatives talking about the side effects of the pill because they all talk about it in absolutes. Not everyone on the pill experiences all the side effects at the same intensity just like any other medication.
Someone start talking about all the worst possible side effects of viagra.
@@animeotaku307Heart attack and stroke!
I mean the mean does suck and it sucks that women are still expected to bear the most invasive aspects of contraception but for a lot of women it's either that or CHILDBIRTH
(which I'm told is unpleasant)
What I hate even more when they discuss the dangers of birth control is that they never fully take into consideration that child birth isn't just extremely difficult and painful. It's also far more medically risky (and potentially life threatening) than any form of birth control
@dejinn7765 Pregnancy almost killed me. I had preeclampsia, and I was just lucky that my kiddo was cooked just enough to live (in an incubator). I was in critical condition for two weeks. That was almost two decades ago, and we're both fine now. But yep: pregnancy is a serious experience.
The frustrating part is I’m on birth control because I have severe stage 4 endometriosis. It’s like these idiots also forget that it’s not only used for as a method to stop pregnancy. I swear being a women in this society exhausting. I’m so tired of people dictating my body anatomy. It feels like we’re cattle
same condition here, not on BC because it's a myth that it halts progression, and since it's already stage 4 (same) then there's nothing else it can progress to anyway, is there? the tissue is still there. I don't trust all the side effects like higher cancer risk.
as for their motive, they want us to be forced to have an SA baby if that were done TO US
@@ApexALThey actually are. Project 2025 aims to limit access to birth control and recommended that HHS no longer consider abortion a form of health care.
It would also allow employers to opt out of birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans.
And if you think they wouldn't go further than that, there were those who thought the same when people started warning about the intention to overturn Roe.
People need to stop suggesting that women are overreacting.
@@ApexAL If you're not at the very least going to add an opinion to all the comments you're under then respectfully stfu
Thank you! I take it to regulate hormonal acne! These people are *idiots* !
@@CanItAlready "People need to stop suggesting that women are overreacting" Absolutely right. Breaking that dismissive habit is a tough one though, they've been doing it for thousands of years! It almost seems instinctual in some men.
I love how Matt Walsh is very clearly miserable and yet speaks as if he knows what makes a happy life.
He isnt miserabler.i see him enjoying in self imoprtance and vitriol he have towards enemy.he think he is good guy though usual thing for western fundemntalist christrians
@@himpim642do you know how to type? Or spell?
@@Keira303 far better than you know my language...
Jordan Peterson too he literally keeps talking about his clinical depression and crying on camera
@@himpim642 Go back to school, buddy. You're not fit to discuss anything with anybody.
In the days before reliable birth control, women would attempt to ration sex, even within a marriage, in order to avoid getting pregnant and a good husband was one who was not too demanding of sex. Do men really want to go back to that?
"Not tonight, honey, I have a headache."
Of course men like Matt Walsh wouldn't be stopped by that.
I remember Phyllis Schlafly saying once women get married, they no longer have the right to say no.
@@janel.8921 I'm sorry, Phyllis, but that is just plain evil.
@@C12341they didn't care they will get a new one
In gone with the wind a married female character gets told she can’t have sex anymore because she almost died in childbirth. Is this what men want?
Thank you for pointing out how they NEVER encourage men to wear condoms and that they focus solely on women using contraception. It's genuinely frustrating to see how the right wing will blame women no matter what.
well they are supposedly pro bioth so they are agaisnt condoms as well just not that open...yet...
And - they NEVER consider having vasectomies. Women can die in childbirth, but apparently they don't see a problem with that.
But condoms "dull the sensation" slightly for poor men, and we know mens "right" to complete sexual pleasure trumps everything
@@terrirood8407 Vasectomies= neutering = emasculation
And they don't force other men to be fathers as something natural and happy, like children are only for mothers
The more they talk about forcing women into motherhood the more I’m deciding to opt out of it.
a hysterectomy is becoming more and more enticing
The more I hear about it the more I don't want to get married or have children
Hearing a conservative man talk is the best birth control
The Handmaid's Tale is a utopia show for them
i'm 71, a widow, childfree with NO REGRETS. i lived my authentic life.
The audacity of Matt Walsh blaming the birth control pill of all things for women not being able to “drop out of the workforce and be a homemaker” when we know damn well it is simply no longer possible for most families to survive on a single income !!!!
For real, I don’t even understand the obsession with forcing women to become homemakers when it’s not even plausible for most! In fact, a lot of women would want to be a “trad wife” but most men can’t even play the trad husband role and fully provide for a family with one income.
Poverty = desperation = obedience
Walsh has become totally obsessed with what we as women choose to do with our bodies. I truly think he needs therapy.
I also tend to think, kids will eventually be in school, freeing up time that a woman would likely be able to go back to work. Unless of course, women are also supposed to not just be SAHMs but also homeschool their kids, which is probably what they think.
It's possible to live on one income if you marry a man with a high income and live within your means. You can't do it if you marry a man that can't provide.
They NEVER tell men to do the same.
*sighs*
Bc they say women are the gatekeepers of consensual sex
NEVERRRRRRR … LIKE WTF
They encourage men to improve themselves and discover who they are
Meanwhile they encourage women to be baby machines 😕
While simultaneously screaming "accountability!"
Say louder
Lol why do they even want women? They should start dating among themselves at this point.
Remember when they created that conservative dating app and it was a fail because neither one of them wanted each other either
They haven't figured that out yet, let alone admitted it to themselves.
@@susuileamuralol men:☕☕🤣
Sexual variety doesn't make sex more interesting if you are not interested in sexual variety.
Being gay isn't sexual variety, it just means you are orientated towards same sex,
it doesn't inherently make you exciting and flamboyant.
It just means you can be flamboyant and when people call you gay it won't matter because you are.
@@bulletanarchy 2024 and you've got to say this. Wtf is going on?
Sir no one fricking cares
@@Oddesie It's kind of a joke
@@BriarLeaf00 The Daily Wire complains that people might not want to do what conservatives want to do.
That somehow allowing people to do something else is stealing your potential spouse.
@@bulletanarchy alright sir, sorry if that was to braising of me! I'd try better, to read between the lines you've now shown me.
It's always men saying how women should feel. Like how tf would they know, they're men? I'd hate to be a young woman in the US right now, with conservatives thinking your only real value is bearing children. I honestly think they're getting more extreme with their views everyday, I dread to think where this could go.
Edit. The woman who said women were saying they were different from when they were 14 well duh course they are. Also the pill has more uses than just stopping you get pregnant.
a grandiose gaslight yes
It's really scary to be a woman in a world where there is so much hate directed at us.
normalize vasectomies instead of pills :)
But what if there are side effects 😭
Fuck no!
@@jcleaverchamberlinjr fuck yes!
@@KateeAngel are you insane. Men getting their sperm storers cut off should be normalized? No future generations for them or anything?
@@JasonAtlas exactly
One of the things with the pill that isn’t brought up as often: it allows women to prevent contraception secretly. This helps women in bad situations. It helps prevent children being brought into bad families.
It also prevents men from baby-trapping. I think that's another reason they hate it.🙄🤦
Did you mean "it allows women to prevent CONCEPTION secretly"?
They don't care about family they care about controlling women.
You can always tell a conservative by their complete inability to let people live their own lives.
Mary Harrington is free to "rewild" sex if she so chooses, but she is not free to make others do so. And her attempt to co-opt feminism (she's calling it "reactionary feminism") and use it for conservative purposes is so transparently obvious.
I hate Manosphere but I support Maternalism and Confem, look how mess cultural Marxism
@@AllyRoseGardenYou realize that "Cultural Marxism" is an OLD anti-Semitic dog whistle right?
@@AllyRoseGarden "I support Maternalism and Confem": That is manosphere stuff, because it all centers men.
@@07Flash11MRC yes, lot of men are bad, I didn't blame all of them, the west views on feminism is totally messed up, I kinda like the feminism totally opposed prostitution
@@AllyRoseGarden "lot of men are bad": I didn't say that. I said it's a system that centers men at the expense of everyone else (women, girls and minorities).
Do these men not have hobbies? They spent an awful amount of time thinking about women, and not in a good way.
Their hobbies: trolling on the Internet
he just unironically said "chaperoned parties are actually really good and every party should have old people parenting adult children" holy sht
Welcome to Gilead.
4b ftw
Ancient boomers have to monitor ALL activities in case young'uns have any fun that goes against christian sharia
he’s so fucking lame lol
@@seabreeze4559 isn't 4b the best? i literally don't have to think about birth control, abortions, children, domestic violence, or being trapped in a marriage. i'm completely free of these problems if i just leave men alone.
Matt walsh automatically assumes that motherhood and wifehood is enough to keep women happy.
However, many traditional wifes are treated by their husbands horribly.
A lot of homemakers feel stifled too .
How would he know? His pregnant wife left him after he treated her like crap
@@bgos4727you're mixing him up with Steven Crowder.
What a coincidence that his idea of what should make women happy is all the things that make conservative men happy.
What the hell! Does he not understand that you can have casual sex with someone while still valuing them and seeing them as a person. And likewise you can be in a long term relationship with someone and still not see them as a person. He is talking about a reality that does not exist!
The 2nd is so common in cons. circles! The levels of dehumanisation cons. women endure at the hands of their long-term partners are pretty high.
Your first point is actually not the normal view regarding casual sex. Society is really prudish thanks to how persistent purity culture is.
@@eideticex prudish due to religous nuts and conservatives who crossover anyway that's the only people with issues with his first part
My dad had 4 children to two different women. The first two were with my mother, and they were together for 13 years. The second two were with his current wife, and they've been married for about 10 years. He didn't treat my mother as anything more than a slave, and I can only assume he treats his current wife the same way. He also treated me and my brother horribly, which is why I don't speak with him.
Cons really are clueless about how human beings interact with each other.
OF course he doesn't understand it, he doesn't understand empathy.
The fact that there was at one point a male birth control, like the ones for women but it was stopped because the side effects were “too bad” yet were very similar to women’s birth control. That speaks volumes on what our society thinks about women
A woman saying "We should return the danger to sex" is terrifying
are we punishing grape too?
they don't mind a man using condoms because they want men to be able to tamper with it and trap the woman
she's kinda right though. sex is dangerous for women because of the risk of pregnancy. with pregnancy comes the potential risk of dying during childbirth. but i don't think she was thinking in those terms. she wants women to fear sex and that we should feel shameful for feeling sexual desires. moreover, men tend to think of sex as a weapon against women. sex is something they do TO us, not WITH us. so they also believe sex is dangerous for us.
That didn't exactly stop people back when it was true.
@@hardcandy71287 I will always remember when I told a friend of mine, a guy friend, that I had finally lost my v-card, and he said "I thought you wouldnt give yourself up so easily" (I was like... 25 years old) These kind of little men think we have sex because we give our bodies to someone, we give up or something, as if we werent horny and capable of having orgasms too. I mean, what the fuck? Dont they knopw about the clitoris yet? about how easily we fantasize, at least in my case? I write erotic stories, for fucks sake xDDDD and my fave show is about two male vampires loving and hating each other and loving each other again (interview with the vampire. Watch it. Sooo sexy)
Ben Shapiro has never turned anyone on in his life
Exactly! First of all, he's a dweeb and second, that voice of his would turn any woman off. He always sounds like he has been huffing helium.
Especially not his wife
Maybe his Rabbis
@@CanItAlready😂😂😂 anytime I see him, all I can think of is his WAP review 😂😂 this dude really says squirting is a medical condition 😂😂😂 from a married man, his poor wife has never gotten wet in his presence at least 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. And he also doesn't get exaggeration or hyperbole in art generally
@@CanItAlreadyWhose kids are those really?
No no-fault divorce, no jobs, no independent money, no reproductive rights, no make up.
What they want so far. Missing anything?
no vote, no bank account, unsure about paying taxes considering the voting thing, forced paternity testing?
It's about blocking off the exits for women.
They pine for the 50s marriage, but don't want to draw attention to the fact that these marriages lasted 40+ years because women literally couldn't leave.
They didn't work, had no independent income, had little education, no assets, no money, no credit, no work experience, and faced social stigma for divorce.
That's their idea of what marriage is and what women's lives should be like.
@@CyeOutsider
And they always try to demonized feminism.
I'm surprised they haven't said no literacy yet.
If for any reason the pregnancy results in the death of the fetus ,the woman can be charged with murder . Because if you eat right and are careful then theres no reason at all why you wouldnt have a healthy delivery . Thats what will happen . Already happening slowly . Did you see the ad where a young woman is stopped by law enforcement while driving and asked if she might be pregnant ? Evil always tells on itsself .
These guys really do believe that their way is THE only way to live and they want to force everyone into it.
I've been saying this for years
Ya they r effing insane!!! Project 2025 will be worse than Nazi germany!!! We can’t allow them to win this November or it will be 100 times worse then Nazi germany!!!
Yeah and that without adding their way is wrong man if your wife going to be a housewife don't leave everything to her just because you're the provider i get she'll do most of the house work because she have no job to worry about but do something everyday like laundry or making the bed
Also housewife sound have like a part time job to have thier own money or something to not be totally depend incase the marriage fail
@@USSAnimeNCC- trad men do work around the house what do they think DIY IS?
@@seabreeze4559- But it's not helping with the housework or other 'womanly' tasks. In a household with children, keeping the house in half-decent shape is a never-ending battle. When Dad's not fixing the mower or rebuilding a chair, he can help with the laundry or the cooking or the sweeping.
Jordan Peterson talking about Narcicism always grinds my gears 😂 his failure to notice his own addiction while preaching non stop
Standard conservatives projection.
@@ExtremeMadnessX he's supposed to be a psych dude
... tbh it also scares me given his education 🤔😄
He has a very creepy narcissistic air about him
Male moment☕☕lol
Verbal masturbation.
The biggest problem is conservative men putting 100% of sexual responsibilities on women. If they are so concerned about sexual morality, marriages and birth of children within marriages, they need to hold men accountable and responsible.
Them...
Rape? Women's fault
Male loneliness? Women's fault
Existence of incels? Women's fault
Abortion? Women's fault
Pedos? Women's fault
Trafficking? Women's fault
Porn industry? Women's fault
A man having lustful thoughts? Women's fault
Adultry? Women's fault
It's funny how they always refer to left "elites" when so many power billionaires and prominent people heavily support the right.😂😂
In the US you can technically be a billionaire and support either the republicans or the democrats (which is what conservatives mistake for "the left" only because it's technically left of republicans) because neither one of these parties take any real steps towards limiting extreme wealth accumulation. Your choice as a billionaire then is more down to how much you hate minorities and the disenfranchised and vote R/D accordingly. So when they talk about the "elite left" they actually mean "rich democrat voters". Which is a thing that certainly exists. (They never talk about the even larger stable of ultra-wealthy right-wing republican voters.)
There billionaire liberals are all Conservative as are alot of middle class hipsters.
Yet give millions to the dnc 🤔
Why does Matt Walsh get to decide what qualifies as full manhood and full womanhood? Coz my full womanhood includes no biological children and me getting my PhD
apparently Jesus wasn't a man????
Why are conservatives always obsessed with the 50's idea of the modern family? Why not go back to the old west? And I mean the REAL old west. Not what you see in movies
They are oil traditionalists and refer to petro type cultures.
The 50s they envision wasn't even real, it was all just marketing and government propaganda.
Back then dads were ptsd ridden WW2 vets that passed their trauma down to their children, and America was the most socialist it had ever been.
So in a funny way, Conservatives would have actually hated the 50s.
You mean the fantasy of the 1950s family that only existed for rich white people? 😂 I'm 70, and my family was middle class, and my mom worked. And of all the married couples I know in my generation, there is only one couple where the wife is not the primary breadwinner.
the 50s was based on socialism men got easy loans for a house, car etc and basically forced women to marry them to have a place to live
Conservatism isn't about returning to there idea of a perfect time, it's about using ideas and misconceptions people have about those times to fight against a perceived problematic progress, they know that the 50s weren't the decade of perfect Americana, alot of them will argue for even further back, it's not about the decade or even the reality of societal function in that decade it is litterally just fear of an ever-changing world.
Elon Musk read the legendary Iain M Banks Culture novels and his main takeaway was "technology is cool" like ok bro you can take a white south african out of apartheid but can you take the apartheid out of the white south african guy with jewels in his pockets and a dad with a mine?
Yep!
As a white South African, this hurts because it’s still kinda true for most of my countrymen 😑😑😑 - also, I personally don’t claim Elon
The Culture is also everything that he's against. Full rights for sentient AI's, classless because their technology is so advanced means that there isn't work so there's no class war with no rulers and no proletariat. Individually capable of controlling their gender and appearance, let alone fertility (so if someone wants to be a or trans or switch they can). No money. Iain Banks was also very forthright about his detestation of capitalism in a couple of essays/in character speeches about it.
Elon Musk's type of ideal society is more like the world in Heroes Die by Stover. They basically had an explicitly designed caste society modelled after a corporation so you got assigned your caste based on how rich your parents were (so they had Investor, Leisure Class, Administrator, so on). Higher technology. Every time I read about some dork enlightmenment fascist in big tech I think that if they actually read the books they'd think of this as an ideal, not the society that the protagonist spent four books and most of his life trying to burn to the ground because there was zero possibility of things ever changing otherwise.
@@Lytic1000 Go off king. I'm here for it.
… I’m saying this as a cis female who is a sex-repulsed asexual. I’m on birth control and have been on some sort of birth control since I was 11. Physical adult activities had nothing to do with why. I have very irregular and painful periods and without being on the pill I can’t figure out when my time of the month is coming. When it does and I’m not on the pill, the cramps are so bad that I’m unable to function as a human being. Many other women use birth control for the same reason, and sex doesn’t have a thing to do with it. Can someone explain to these idiots that medicine is actually medicine? Also the Kamasutra proves is a thing. FYI
Aunque les expliquen no escuchan, no entienden, carecen de capacidad cognitiva, cero sinapsis.
Wow... did I write this? Because it's describing me. 😂
* fist bump *
Thats a really cringe way to start a comment
As a woman I refuse to be relegated to nothing more than a breeder and house keeper. I've managed without a man for most of my life, and my ex - with whom I had 4 children - was in no way a blessing to me. He was a liar, cheater, and emotionally abusive. Our house was tense at best and often full of his voice belittling and threatening the rest of us. Leaving him and setting us up in a sane, safe home was the best thing for my kids. They've grown up to be independent-thinking, compassionate, kind, hard-working adults who treat others with integrity and respect.
Conservatives want to turn the clock back to the damned Dark Ages.
I think they should be more open about their hate of women and freedom. Pushing away as many people from their ideas is good for everyone.
Honestly? They really, really are quite LOUDLY, openly vocal about their hate of women and women's freedom right now.
They do not believe they can be free unless they can put others in chains.
You don't have to go very far back in history to find women who'd had 10-20 pregnancies during their lives. Not all would got to term, not all would be born alive. The toll on women isn't just the raising of children, they've felt the loss of them too. The pill is far from ideal, it's never been completely safe for women. But for many women it's the best option out there. Especially when there are men who object to some methods of contraception because "It doesn't feel as good."
Of course, they aren't interested in any sensible discourse on the topic. They literally don't care about women's lives, they just want to control them. Maybe they're frightened of getting left out of The Family, where they can benefit from the general mothering? Women can build perfectly good, loving, supportive, families without a man. Some choose to, some it just happens to, and some have happy egalitarian relationships - even some with men! 😉
I like men, there are men I've loved and still love, many are damn good friends. But I live alone by choice, in my own space. (Where no one can complain about my eating crisps in bed!)
there is a new type of condom called isopropene or something? a plastic, feels like NOTHING, the male pill also exists but men don't want it, they wanna control women by tampering with condoms
@StarryWaters-gq1oj Or that their children were grieved over. As though so many child deaths made it merely a 'shruggable' event. When of course they felt it, every time.
I think of one of the Queens in my country, 20 pregnancies and not one surviving child. What with the extra pressure to produce a male heir, it drove the woman insane.
@StarryWaters-gq1oj No. you have misread my comment. I was saying the opposite of that.
@StarryWaters-gq1oj That's ok darling. I often read so fast I miss out entire sentences.
Well elephants raise kids without males. Plenty of females raise their offsprings by themselves or with help of other females.
The woman at 19:05 seems to struggle with the idea that a person at 14 is not the same at age 24. And a person at age 24 going off the pill probably has reached a point in their lives where they are ready for significant changes.
frontal lobe development
I took birth control for PMDD and severe acne as a teen and into my 20's, and I'm celibate. It was life changing in a very positive way for me. Yes, some women do not react well to it, but for many it can help a ton. Just like any other medication.
I remember when I first watched "The handmaid's tale" and was like "damn, the author had a wild imagination!" I now think Atwood was warning us.
I think she based it on conservative Islam. But all extremely patriarchal religions just rhyme, don't they
It was a warning based on actual things that have been done to women, not by individual bad men but by whole societies. And she wrote it because she could see where the Evangelical movement in the 80s would inevitably end up. And here we are, about to see the balkanization of the US and the establishment of Gilead.
Atwood was definitely warning us. The book was written in a time of post-Roe rise in religious conservatism and Christian nationalism. These groups have played the long game and eventually got enough religious Supreme Court backing to overturn Roe after 50 years
@@ishaalimtiaz6715 Wow I didn’t know that was even a thing, that’s so disturbing 😓
@@s7d788 She based it on extreme right-wing Christianity, actually. I say this as someone who believes in Jesus - religion can be twisted into something horrifying when practiced the wrong way. So I read Atwood's books as a warning to myself.
Women fully embracing their womanhood means WE ARE WHOLE PEOPLE and we may embrace the entirety of ourselves.
"If you want to enjoy spending time with a consenting adult without tethering yourself to them fro the rest of your mortal existance, you're a psychopath."
meanwhile, they’re the ones projecting
Yep, respecting a person and their autonomy are definitely things psychos are known for doing 😂
I think it references men in a tweet thread that famously said they use women's bodies like a toy.
While I personally am not into hook ups and one night stands that take he made was... just bad and crazy.
I can never stop smiling at Jordan Peterson's rambles. Every time he uses certain terms such as Machiavellian so ironically, I'm just lmfao so hard🤣🤣
I am pretty sure he wants to be a SAHM very very deeply from the bottom of his heart. 🙂
Did you mean 'unironically'? Because this wannabe Batman villain is soooo serious about everything.
@@oOIIIMIIIOo Yeah, I guess so. But also, the term "Machiavellianism" has become so misappropriated when you consider it was originally used as a socio-political term. Nowadays, many people just use it as a justification to their own personal entitlement by making a rationale out of their own hyperbolic ideas.. 🤦🤦
@@julietfischer5056wannabe Batman villain?
Dude there are THREE +* Batman villains that are evil shrinks.
Hugo Strange
Scarecrow
Dr. Hurt
Harley Quinn*
*semi-reformed.
@@justincampbell3891- Did you see his multi-colored suit emblazoned with his signature? That's Batman villain schtick.
I've met both women. Some hate the side effects but some actually love being on the pill, feel better and take it even when they aren't dating.
I am 30 year old aro/ace virgin, and take the pill for 7 years already
I am older now, but I took it to avoid killer cramps. Worked really well.
I want the pill for the same reason. I'm 44, got a tubal. I am waiting for my period to go away. I am miserable as fuck.
If monogamy was so great they wouldn't have to find ways to force it on people. They genuinely cannot understand how marriage is a shitty deal for women. When women have control over their own bodies, they don't rush out to get married and have babies.
Crazy!
You want women able to be homemakers and caregivers?
Set up UBI, caregiving credits for pension, extensive programs to support children, returnships for post caregiving professionals, and everything else to have them feel like they are not trapping themselves.
If women drop out of the workforce to become mothers, how are 90% of them going to eat and not freeze in winter ? Especially with conservative economics ?
TBF the pill was bad for me, it seemed to activate my PCOS. So I got a hysterectomy instead. Another thing they want to get rid of.
Exactly they just want to get rid of all the options for women. Fortunately for me the pill doesn’t give any noticeable side effects. And that’s the thing about conservatives talking about the pill is they act like all the side effects are guaranteed at maximum intensity which is straight up misinformation. No other medication affects everyone 100% the same but apparently the pill does? Yeah gimme a break.
Freedom for me, but not for thee.
Even now, if you aren't married with two children, it's damn near impossible to get a hysterectomy. 'You might change your mind' and 'What if you meet a man and he wants children?' are supposed to be 'Gotcha' questions. For the first, there's always adoption, and for the second, that's why you talk honestly with your future spouse.
Imo, I don't believe people should sterilize themselves. You're willing removing a natural part of your body. That usually called mutilation. But that's just my imo.
@@julietfischer5056I had that same issue. 15 yrs later I'm still happy. Lol
The side effects of the Pill are not uniformly terrible. Some people have terrible side effects, but that isn't the whole story. If you want to be realistic about the risks of the Pill, you should first look at the risks of pregnancy. The Pill is much, much safer.
And, like. You know. You can... Stop taking the pill? Like, it's not a life-long commitment.
A lot of women don't have side effects. It feels like there is fear mongering to make women afraid of the pill.
Which is ecectly what the Pro breeders want
@@diestormlie THIS. You can stop taking the pill at any point, but once you've had a child, there's no going back.
Matt Walsh and Jordan Peterson live in a fantasy world with no inkling of the lives of real people before feminism. I’m old and was a child before the pill and feminism so I remember. My mother was raised to be a wife and mother, as was typical for women of her generation. She thought she married well; however, he turned out to be a bipolar alcoholic and was not capable of supporting a family. She raised 3 kids on a meager “pink” collar salary once he abandoned the family. I’m sure there were happy traditional families out there in the ‘50s and ‘60s, but the only friend I knew who had a father at home was routinely beaten by him. I’m so glad I had options that my mother didn’t have.
As a 1990s kid who reads a lot of history, I appreciate reading stories like yours. The tradwife model of the 1950s was discarded for a good reason. It's sad that people of my generation are forgetting. Or rather, are discarding the warnings of previous generation who suffered from rigid gender roles. I've watched the 1970s film version of "The Stepford Wives" and I was horrified.
All Happy family’s are the same, all unhappy family’s are miserable in their unique way
if you get the reference your cultured and would make Jordan Peterson proud
@@julianstone1192 Leo Tolstoy said that.
Perfect time to elect a woman president in the US
A lot of women are pick mes.
@@gunsmithcat And a lot of men are incels, what's your point?
@ilikecookies9796 I agree. My point was just because we elect a woman doesn't mean she will be on our side
fr men are ruining this country
@@gunsmithcatthat's absolutely true 🙂💔
To most conservatives there is no legal distinction between a human woman and a brood mare
we're potential people until pregnant, hence the assumption you're not a real woman until you had sex aka babymaking
“Call me cis to my face and see what happens” I’ve seen many cringy things in my life.. but that tweet.. haunts me.
“you don’t want to see my dark side 🤓” ahh sentence
Bros not gonna do shit
I think the woke moralist is the one haunt me the most. It is so dumb and sound like a silly cartoon vilain.
r/Iamverybadass ahh sentence
I've seen a few people like that I usually respond with Ok Cissy
Honesty conservative anything these days is awful in America
These days?
@@thenewkalpayes in 2020s onward
@@NoshikiYTIt was awful in the 70s and 80s, too.
@@rachael_grey Conservatism has been bad _always._
@@rachael_grey yeah, those anti-welfare and anti-enviromentalist types
JP has his own problems to sort out. And Walsh is not a doctor, not a scientist, not a sociologist, not anything but a privileged guy with zero talent.
Conservatives always think that’s it’s single women on the pill, but married women can also take it if they have had the amount of children they can take care of. Conservatives always give poor people grief for having more kids than they can afford. The pill gives families that option to have the amount they can take care of. Unless they want to start saying that married women should also abstain from sex.
They have no logic they’re just frustrated sexually and want to take it out on women and other men who can actually get sex whenever they want
All of these conservative men flat out admitting they can't please a woman.
Jordan Peterson says he doesn't believe in casual sex. Yet another in a long line of Prof Dr Peterson playing word games instead of actually getting to any kind of logical point. It's all word games, all day long with this joker.
i never seen someone who can talk in circles the way peterson can. he’s the definition of saying so much while saying nothing at all. and the worst part is that people genuinely think he’s intelligent 😂
Peterson is.clown,He is off his meds😂😂
"Masturbation isn't a heroic act."
-- JBP
I'm sorry but the cape stays on.
It's also kind of mind boggling to think about, because casual sex is the only way to find out if you are sexually compatible for people who are also looking for a long term relationship.
Sometimes people get hitched too soon and find out that their partner doesn't "perform" well. That's going to put a real damper on your relationship in the long run. 😅
@@SleepyMatt-zzz Is this the modern day excuse ? lol Casual sex is a disease in society, that's why people can't get into relationships. Imagine getting with someone who's been rammed by 10 other dudes.
I was put on the pill by a GP when I was 12 because my periods were so bad I could barely walk. It had nothing to do with sex.
that's irresponsible it should have been investigated, the underlying conditions possible are still causing damage e.g. endo, PCOS etc. maybe insulin resistance, oestrogen dominance
@seabreeze4559
When she was 12?
Get real. Many women are put on birth control for heavy periods. I was too.
@@seabreeze4559Are you a doctor? If not, STFU.
@@seabreeze4559 It was 1992 and it was none of those things. It very much helped me, though.
They love family and kids cause they leave all the responsibilities of those 2 things to their wives
That first clip of Ben Shapiro... tell me you are abusive in the bedroom without telling me.
Someone needs to tell his wife it's okay to say no.
His wife also lied to him about women getting wet is a medical issue. Man is making his wife as dry as the Sahara
ironically they couldn't even do mouth stuff according to the bible
It gets a little funny when you remember his WAP cover😂😂
Man's proved his wife got that dry ass dusty Cobb webbed pumpum. And it's totally understandable considering who she's with. Poor woman😢😢
No wonder he thinks everyone is sexually bored.
@@seabreeze4559 the bible says he can't, but he sure does. I mean he's got his lips firmly round the right wing and sucking firmly so ...
Disgusting and disrespectful rhetoric aimed at women is shocking in 2024.
People will have sex regardless, birth control is actually what prevents unhappy families. Men also want to have sex without worrying about producing babies, so who would this benefit? The only people who "benefit" are abusive controling men who hate women, everyone else suffers.
Married/monogamous people don't always want kids, maybe they're waiting so they can save up money or something, maybe they already have two kids and don't want more, there's so many reasons, birth control isn't just for people who sleep around.
Birth control is also extremely important for medical care, many women need the pill in order to live a normal life, there's so many hormonal/menstrual issues women have, and often birth control is the only treatment for it.
I myself take birth control for medical reasons, and it saved my life, I had severe pmdd which made me suicidal for two weeks every single month, after starting birth control I no longer deal with that and can actually function (I was already on antidepressants for years but medications are not made for women, our hormonal cycles are not taken into consideration, so meds don't really help during the two weeks of pms and period).
I started birth control at 27, honestly wish I started it sooner, I could have lived better instead of being stuck in a cycle of severe pmdd depression and regular depression.
Many women have periods so severe that they pass out and/or have to be hospitalized, some bleed several times a month or even nonstop for months (go to the gynecologist if you are experiencing any of these things, it is common but not normal) birth control isn't a fix all but it helps regulate the hormonal cycle which can alleviate or reduce the severity of symptoms. Birth control is also the only treatment for endometriosis, which a large percentage of women have (I have it myself).
Needless to say, birth control is a medical necessity, and denying women access to it is a huge infringement on our rights.
In fairness, for Ben, "sexual novelty" just means moisture.
"And that stretches all the way to the top... whatever the top is..."
Ok, well, if they don't know what the top is, I can understand their confusion.
you mean a w.a.p.
@@hotcocoacinamonbrown😂😂😂😂 like once you've seen the WAP review, that's all you can think of
@@tamiausten873 pretty much since ben and his sister Abbie railed against the song and video in a weird united effort to pinpoint real women and wives don't talk about their w.a.p.s. Real women and wives are unconcerned about such trivial matters i.e. if their husbands are pleasing them. #sisthatsaproblemifitainthappening.
These conversations exhaust me. The Conservative position begins from the point of view that women cant be trusted with our own bodies. My grandmother was a Catholic. She had 12 children. 4 died in childbirth. She had her last child at 42. Her husband died when her last child was 2 leaving her to raise the kids alone. There was no social security in the uk at this time. She said that she was glad that my grandfather died when he did because if he hadnt she would have. This influenced me. Im now menopausal and able to look back at my relationship with the pill and sex critically. I am grateful for the pill. It has been important for my health. Managing my unmanageable periods. It has ment that i was able to enjoy casual sex as well as sex with long term partners. I started my childrearing story at the point where my grandmother stopped. I have one child, the child that i cherish and can afford to provide for. I have a career that i enjoy. I am single and i am happy. I may venture back into the world of dating when it suits me and my family. Casual sex can be fun and sex in relationships can enhance intimacy and conection. Locking yourself in the bedroom because you are afraid that your husband will demand sex and you are genuinely afraid you will die if you have another child sounds like hell on earth to me. Love you nan ❤
maybe she bumped him off..... maybe....
@@seabreeze4559 def no. She loved him and I doubt she relished the prospect of managing 8 kids on her own. If it were me......maybe.
From Ancient times to this day, masculinity is always defined in opposition to women and on women's hatred. Why?
Women are creators, men are not. They would never willingly become the creators because it is difficult and dangerous, but they still hate us for having that power. Everything they hate women for beyond that is because of that.
Because men hate women
It's sad, and I have no answer. I wish human beings could just stop oppressing each other and see each other as friends, but that seems like a pipe dream.
The Bible says it. Adam blames Eve for sinning, calling Eve "that woman you gave me". But God puts the responsibility heavily on Adam. Also, because of sin the "man will dominate the woman" and the "woman will have unhealthy craving/ relationship for her husband/man".
@@carolinadiaz3618 that's what you get when "holy" books are written by misogynistic men.
Matt Walsh's wife, Alissa Ann Walsh, has had 6 kids, including a set of twins, and has had SEVEN miscarriages.
Wow ! Didn’t know about the miscarriages.
That poor woman married to a pompous a$$
That woman from the Heritage Foundation using some people's real suffering to serve her reactionary agenda is infuriating. I did suffer from the side effects of the pill, ended up being heavily medicated for depression, insomnia and mood disorder from 16 to 22 yrs old.
Yet, what was wrong in that situation was not the access to contraception itself but 1) the lack of information from doctors on the possible side effects of the medication they prescribe and 2) the lack of scientific research for better options.
Even if the pill is not for me, it is life-changing for many women!
Matt Walsh knows nothing about the pill and women in general. I’ve been on it since I was 16 because I have a chronic pain condition called endometriosis that causes unbearable periods. It can also affect my fertility. Even now, in a stable happy long term relationship with someone I intend to marry, I take the pill and have an IUD to control my chronic pain. It’s never gone, but it’s so much easier to manage with birth control. The pill isn’t bad for me, it saved me years of excruciating pain.
This is nothing against women who use the pill to prevent pregnancy. You do you, I support you 10000% always. I just think Matt Walsh has no idea people take the pill for other things too.
Um… when people had “casual sex” during ancient times, it usually involved slavery and/or prostitution, which was often dangerous and forced. In other words, it was only “casual” for the men involved. This is why I don’t actually object as much to what Peterson said about casual sex. So often, it’s only “casual” for the man who wants no-strings-attached sex and who is more likely to act selfish in bed if he knows it’s just a one-off encounter. Women, on the other hand, still have to navigate the risks of potential pregnancy, higher likelihood of STDs, violence, and rape. There’s nothing “casual” about it. But just as right-wing men want women to be private property, left-wing men want women as public property, which often underlies their true motivation behind defending women’s reproductive rights. That being said, even without casual sex on the table, limiting women’s control over their bodies and forcing them to be dependent upon men is dangerous to women, children, and families in general. God forbid women are forced into Matt Walsh’s tradwife utopia and their husband gets laid off, or gets injured and can’t work, or decides to upgrade to a younger model. How is this woman supposed to take care of her family then? What marketable skills would she have that would bring in enough money to provide for her children? The trad wife to single mom pipeline is real and it’s completely idiotic to pretend otherwise.
20:47 learning that they glorify past empires with heavily pagan roots to justify Christian Ideals is laughable.
Rome did not reach its glory because they eventually embraced Christianity. When Christians were the oppressed minority in Rome, it was already an empire.
They were ruling over the Jews at the dated time of Jesus' birth for crying out loud!
Turns out that conservatives are as bad at history as they are at science.
That's because it isn't about Christianity, but about power and domination.
@@martins.4240 exactly!
The best part is that adopting Christianity did little or nothing to halt the decline of the empire, thus refuting the religious right's farcical claims about Christian societies lasting forever through the divine favor of Magic Sky Man.
I love how Jordan Peterson has named all personality disorders in the first few seconds of the video.
He has them tattooed on his hand, for easy reference.
@@floraposteschild4184 🤣
I‘ve never wanted kids. Forcing women to have kids they don’t want isn’t going to change that.
Classic non sequitur: although most psychopaths crave instant gratification, not everyone who engages in instant gratification is a psychopath
I tried the happy home maker once and I had to hit my mom up for money to buy diapers with. Thirty years later he is still worthless but worse.
Bloody hell, I am so sorry to hear that. I do hope you're in a better place, or will be soon.
The speaker from the Heritage Foundation does have a valid point about the side effects that can occur from taking the contraceptive pill. In fact she underplays them somewhat, since there can be serious effects on physical health (elevated cancer risk) as well as the more common effects on mood and mental health..... HOWEVER, her conclusions do not seem to be logical if the intended result is harm reduction (restrict the pill to return "the danger" to sex?!)
Her points do demonstrate in more ways than one just how far we still are from a genuinely equal and feminist society. Women have always been the ones to suffer from the societal "rules" around sex and pregnancy. While the pill (and safe, legal abortions) have been a way to free them from some of the consequences of our sexist sexual mores and provide them finally with a degree of control over their own sexual and reproductive decisions, we have failed to even the burden.
Women are still the ones bearing the burden, making the decisions and dealing with the mental and physical side effects of contraception which are so much worse than they need to be because of ingrained sexist and puritanical attitudes affecting the mediacal and pharmaceutical sectors, and _still_ having to deal with the consequences when it fails. All the while being attacked by bigots who think they're sluts or immoral, or are "destroying society" despite appareently ignoring the necessary contribution men must be making to all these "evils".
If you have a partner for whom pregnancy is a possibility, talk to them about contraception.
As to the likes of Peterson and Walsh, it's always interesting to note how these Small-State, Individualist, Libertarian personal freedom types suddenly become perfectly happy advocating to legislate away people's rights to make what they see as "poor decisions" when those people are women and their decisions might limit the potential choices available to men. They really do see women more as property than as people.
Theyve always hated women, its just more out in the open now.
So many women are on the pill just to regulate their period and treat period pain. I was on the pill for about 5 years before I lost my virginity.
I am a virgin on the pill for 7 years already
You didn’t lose your virginity; you started having sex. ❤
They won't have to worry for long the 4B movement will put a complete stop to this.
Exactly!!! All this is gonna do is make all women not have sex with men ever again!! Why would we risk dying with a dead fetus rotting inside us cause abortion is banned or risking diseases cause contraception is banned!! They r literally cucking themselves!!!! They r gonna be completely sex less!!! Then you’ll see how quickly they wish casual sex would come back!!!
Until they make it illegal for women to work and have her own means of finances again.
What? She thinks the pill has psychoactive subatances in it? What?
No, lady, that's is indeed you being not well and in need of treatment. This is not on the pill.
progesterone can cause PMS symptoms aka Mini Pill
The interactions of the hormones in birth control pills with the hormones in a woman's body produce any and all effects (for good or ill). These people....
She's not completely wrong though. The pill has many medical uses beyond prevention & ppl should be allowed make their own medical & lifestyle choices without added judgement or interference. HOWEVER, some forms of birth control cause the body to simulate some hormonal aspects of pregnancy which is why the body doesn't release an egg. It has been studied & found that it can mess with the mind & body in various ways because it doesn't allow the body to regulate those hormone levels naturally. It has all kinds of uses, but ppl should be just as informed about some of the risks so they can make fully educated decisions for themselves.
I really have the maturity of a 12 year old boy. I giggled so hard when he said men embrace their manhood lol
As a young man on the cusp of adulthood I remarked to what I would describe as a "Conservative" man years ago on how I found a 20- something woman to be attractive. This individual spun on me, rage and disgust on his face, and he spat out "Boy, once they are fifteen they`re over the hill!" Truly disgusting.
These dudes also refuse to accept that most men won't be the primary breadwinner anymore. Either because they can't afford to or they want to use the woman's income to subsidize their lifestyle.
I'm a heterosexual man, I'm meant to be the target audience of these guys, and yet everything they say just sounds awful and depressing. I mean, why do some people fall for it? What is the appeal? I just don't get it, what is attractive about their ideology or the way they want society to be? It all just sounds horrible, like is half the world just full of massochist's and people who love being in service of rich people?
and what if you wife passes during labour and you're left with like 10 children? ALONE?
@@seabreeze4559 oh well in that case... I still wouldn't want to be a Conservative 😂
For my own physical health im deciding that I am not going to watch this video now but to watch it tomorrow cause its 5 am where I live but I just wanted to give you props and encourage your fight for womens rights
Narcissists are often quick to secure people in a relationship so they can get their hooks in and control their partner, they’re not likely to be cool with casual relationships. It’s just flat out hating, cry me a river