Selfishness v. Selflessness | Sanders Sides
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2019
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There are so many moments in our lives where we’re faced between serving ourselves or serving others, and many times, to get what we want, we may tend towards deception to achieve it. In this video, Deceit returns and presents his case for why we shouldn’t inhibit these tendencies, and Thomas has a conflict of conscience! Hope you enjoy the turmoil that ensues!
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"Lets say you have a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman"
"...you lost me"
mood
He lost me too
How about a little... gayer.... no ok?
@@AloysiusWaffle exactly
same. gay is. all.
Same
Virgil is literally the only person who can pull off a suit and a hoodie together
Yes
That's correct
FALSEHOOD! YOU ASSUMING LITTLE RATTLE SNAKE* >:(
But he really does pull it off ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yes.
Lol same
@@auddiee omg 😵
honestly I love the little details, when Deceit is disguised as Logan, he:
1.was wearing the wrong tie
2. stood up from bending over at the side, trying to make it look like he rose up
3. was also slightly wobbly
4. yelled "LIES" instead of "FALSEHOOD"
5. said "I, the brilliant Logan" which seemed really out of character
I can’t unsee that now
the 5th one sounded like a dig at logan's arrogance lol
he also appears right after Thomas lies about wanting to go to the wedding!
@@masterizzy3i caught that too! also, fellow toh fan! :D
THE SECOND ONE????????!
Did anyone notice that Roman summarized Janus's entire point when he was on trial?
"She's her own person. Her being there would be for me. Her not being there wouldn't erase the fact that it's my big day."
Thomas showing up at Lee and Mary Lee's wedding means a lot to THEM, but nothing to HIM.
Who's Janus? (I only recently discovered the Sides)
@@theresacampbell4380 might wanna watch the putting others first vid first, don't wanna spoil
@@izzychang Thank you
(^•^)
@Rain Thomas
Again?
Also, no. Don't be sad. *hug*
"I am rubber, you are glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you"
"Curses"
My favorite part
Mine too
“That was brutal dude...”
one of my fave quotes
I saw this right when I heard it in the video lol
Same
Virgil * hates the purple/pink hair *
Also Virgil * gets emotional when Thomas dies it back to brown *
didnt Virgil say he loved purple?
he said that he actually likes the purple, he just is thinking, as he is his anxiety, that what other people are thinking about the purple hair but then i guess he was like haha jokes on you i dont care what other people think bOOm now im purple
Haha, I relate
EmmaKayIsNotOk
Just to help with the confusion with the colour of the hair, it’s magenta
:3
Good ol anxiety 😅
Deceit: trying to teach them a lesson
Roman: should we beat someone up and rob their unconscious body?
KAHEJSHS 😭
We should.
@@imatcpell1987 R. O. B.
@@lilly_8766 oh I was thinking beat them up, you can rob tho
@@imatcpell1987 let's beat up all the bad people
I love that deceit makes everyone ELSE swear to tell the truth by putting their hands on the book but he doesnt actually do it himself. His cheeky “I know I do” is a great little hint to that.
It says he's "under oath" in the judge's notes (8:58) meaning he swore in off screen
What are you willing to bet all of those books were about lies?
He was holding all those books tho
OH MAN I NEVER NOTICED! that's such a fun detail! :)
also the fact that more than two hands popped up at once hints at the whole “bunch of arms” thingy
Deceit: stay with me. say you had a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman
Roman: you lost me
🌈
Chelsea Brown that’s a mood tho
EccentricErin Ack right haha
Lost me too
The thing is he lost me there too 😂
Compromise: Thomas skips the wedding for the audition. However, Thomas calls his friends and takes them out to a super fancy restaurant, and give the wedding gift there. They'll understand if you need to do something for your career, and they'll appreciate that you took the time to consider them
Did you just...
Meaning this whole entire episode was pointless.
That's exactly what I was saying like how come they get to have their happy day that makes the rest of their life and Thomas cant just bc they're his friends. Like what they said wasnt a compromise it was a sacrifice. In short, I was on deceits side the whole time
Justine Hornberger I frickin' love that idea. They each get their big days, but still acknowledge each others big day in a special way.
As much as I love this idea, would both parties realistically feel good about it? (Character) Thomas may still feel guilt for skipping the event, and while Lee and Mary Lee might agree to the terms, would it really make up for their friend missing their big day? Even if Lee and Mary Lee say they understand the situation, they might not and will feel upset about the decision made. In the span of things, they most likely would get over it, but people tend to prioritize feelings in the moment rather than in the future.
Deceit hopping around from "lying isn't always bad because it freed Europe from N*zi control" to "We live in a society" is the reason why he's my favorite character.
he both is super chaotic and also asks some great philosophical questions, he’s iconic
Same.
Janus was mad that they didn't get his lesson so he let Remus out of the storage closet he was locked in.
Ahahahahaha , like a punishment 👹
Interesting theory, could be entirely possible and probably is
Meanwhile Remus was writing an entire song waiting for this moment 😂
The scary thing is that's probably true
i love the idea that janus sicked remus on them like an attack dog because he was mad they werent understanding his point lmao
Anyone ever notice how Thomas has so many suits and so many onesies that he just switches between for videos and yet he pulls it off flawlessly
Lol yea, he also has alot of Hogwarts merch
wait so your profile... are you... a......
*trash (p)an?*
Cosplay Switch 100
Or maybe he just keeps it on for shooting depending on the character. (Probably didn't say it right, but my point still stands.)
Imagine how hours his voice is after making these videos
I love how Virgil says “you guys know him as deceit” almost as if Virgil knew him as someone/something else
*[evilly laughs in future]*
@@who.is_updog_ LMAO
Well, as we see, Deceit is less just being dishonest, more just self interest and self preservation.
I love how Deceit then starts pushing Virgil about how reluctant he was to share his name. As the audience when this video came out, we assumed it was due to how big of a moment it was for Virgil and that he didn't like Deceit mentioning it for his own gain. But then we hit the current timeline and realise that Virgil was terrified that if Deceit continued down that path, he might also reveal that Virgil was originally a Dark Side and the Thomas in this video did not know that information at the time.
Deceit: Is it true you once said that *"Weddings are outdated overly expensive pageantry."?*
Me: Omg how is his Virgil impression so great?
Me ten seconds later: ... Oh... Right.
Lol
The charecters are so defined that you forget they are the same person, so when they do impressions you wonder "why is it so good"!?
No, cuz it was driving me insane how different the two voices felt, and yet they are coming from the same person! LIKE WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!
Was gonna say it's because he's deceit and it's his job to do impressions before realizing
Yeah, because he’s Deciet. Of course he’s- oohhhhh
“Don’t let him or.... .....any of his friends..... stay that long ever again.”
Remus in the back eating deodorant: I beg to differ!
Remus, in the back munching on deodorant: Bet
Me, firstly watching the series and sweating: Remus? tHERES LIKE 1 MORE SANDERS EPISODE LEFT-
Technically, Remus didn't stay as long as Deceit. So, Virgil got what he wanted.
So we got Remus and Deceit, the dark parts to Roman and Patton. But what about Logan? Is Virgil his dark side? Does that mean there is a light side to Virgil or has virgil changed to be a light side instead of a dark side?
@@creepichan483 maybe Roman is virgil light side?
*"LIES!!!!!!"*
"Yeah, that's Deceit. Come on out."
Falsehood
*FALSEHOOD!!!*
@@creeperawman.9399 hey i wrote falsehood first!
@@yomama3501
Ok
@@yomama3501 FALSEHOOD!
Someone wrote it in the script first.
My theripist is encouraging me to watch these and actually assigned this episode to me as a homework assignment. Thomas is really helping people. She's gonna start reccomending this series to her other clients as well.
Oh my gosh, that's amazing! I don't go to therapy, but this show is pretty much my comfort show and actually helps me go through my issues, so i can understand why your therapist would recommend it!!
I love how we all are rewatching this like 2 years later 😂
your therapist is amazing, welcome to the fandom❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
That is so precious
i used this show in my therapy as well. though, i showed it to her and she loved the concept. virgil in particular has helped me a lot in terms of my anxiety. its super cool :D
I love how Roman is actually the right brain and Logan is the left so they control each hand XD
omgggg that's such a cool science detail reference
I understand that reference
I think they are the opposite sides of brain. Left part controls right hand and vise versa
Although the funny part is that the left brain controls the right part of the body and vice versa (I think)
"Deceit... if that is your real name..."
"It is"
Everyone: "It isn't"
Lol
Janus! Bad snakey boi! Don’t lie.
Clara Cipher what else do you expect him to do
I Have Sinned Gacha true 😂
Part two: hi, I exist now.
" I'm too emotionally unstable for jury duty" oh shoot Virgil, same
I can agree but I have to say that I love virgil's outfit
Me too
Relatable
SAME
That may or may not literally be how I got out of a jury duty summons once.....too real Virge
Roman: should we beat someone up and rob their unconscious body?
Remus: Y E S
Janus: * brings up any mention of heterosexual union *
Roman: you lost me
*MOOD*
"What does the judge even do? "
"His best"😄
**Patton being pure for 27 episodes (not) straight**
@@grassj6002 I believe you mean for *44 minutes* not straight.
Marisa Grutzius u meen the thing u sed but with a ™️ at the end
Rollie 8bitRainbow Dr.,Cheri”tagon ,jo ughF food oil roo msesy was,ojovtr,season d5o. F lie fl,r *4-4. V. Video, mic &x(($. Mac
Christopher Green what did you just say?
D: Say you had a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman
R : you lost Me
*I dead* 😂😂😂
The friend on the other side :o
23:54
Not gay enough for the sides
@@CooperGooper "Not gay enough! NOT GAY ENOUGH!"
Nightmare y e s
I love Janus going "What, how??" in a totally out of character voice for him, when Logan says Thomas would lose more if he missed the wedding 💀💀💀
And Roman using Thomas's hand to flip off Logan was ONE HUNDRED PERCENT Remus fucking around
Janus is such a amazing character, he's like Virgil in the beginning. Acted like a villian but he isn't in a way. He wants to look out for Thomas, he wants what is best for him.
and all of the sides (ALL OF THEM, including Remus, in his own.. unique.. twisted way..) try to look out for Thomas
Roman calls 'Logan' Deceit.
'Logan': "Lies!"
Real Logan: "Falsehood!!"
*Knows it's Deceit immediately*
Omg I just mixed Logan and Patton I was so confused...
animal800 I've watched Thomas for so long its kinda impossible for me to do that
Yea same I knew that I think he did that on purpose
Logan’s said lies before, then afterwards deceit appears in front of mr. cry’s a lot, grabs a mace and throws it at Logan and smashes his head in while also kicking Virgil’s balls, I come around from behind Roman and snap his neck, then we tackle Thomas and Patton together
Or maybe that was a dream, hmm idk, but we came very close to trying that
He was also wearing Logan's old tie🤷♀️
"Deceit, if that is your real name."
"It is."
I don't think we can trust him on that one.
Does he get a real name like everyone else? If so I got ideas
@@jessicam181 Oooh~ what's your ideas?!😱😱😱
Hmmmm is deceit in disguise as deceit we has to think about dat!!!
Right??
Plot twist
You know what bothered me?
Deceit said that Virgil was a liar, since he didn't want to tell his name at first. (20:10)
He himself didn't tell the others his name yet.
Yes, he said that he's a liar himself and stands for that, but what bothered me is that he uses that against Virgil, sitting in “glass houses” himself.
good lord does anyone else remember how this absolutely FLOORED the fandom when it came out
I love revisiting these and remembering how wild it felt at the time
I've been rewatching videos and I think people were more floored when part two was announced at the end of that one blooper video?? Wild stuff man
10:29 I’ve watched the bloopers so much that now it’s weird to not hear Janus says “Because he’s about to be served... a giant dick-“
Same- 😭✋
I can't un-hear Janus Singing viRGILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
@@EnderTheIdiot sammeeeee. I expect him to yell it every time
11:40 Subtle Things:
Logan swore on Stephen Hawking's The Grand Design,
Patton swore on a Catholic Youth Bible,
Virgil swore on Grimm's Fairy Tales,
and Roman swore on a VHS of Disney's Pinocchio.
I can't see squat when it comes to the books! I'm honestly impressed you could see what they were!
Pinocchio was an inspired choice for an episode that was in part about lying
Thomas swore on a regular bible
Oh my god that is so funny I never noticed it before
Mona Teasley Deceit doesn’t swear on any thing, which makes sense cause he is the side that is supposed to lie
“Then why is he still here?!”
“He doesn’t like Nazis.”
Im dying XD
That can’t be where the figurative bar is.
"That cant be where the line is"
"That cant be where the bar is"
Same
my internet cut out at 5:09 XD
Just throwing this out there: If one of my friends passed up an opportunity like that to attend my wedding, even though they didn't really want to, I would be horrified. In this hypothetical situation, I'd likely stay married for some time after the wedding--it's not like it's a one-time-only opportunity to celebrate my marital status. They could come by for cake and sentiment some other time. Not a big deal.
that's what I'm saying!!! I totally agree! It's definitely a situation where you just talk to your friends and tell the truth! Nothing against the video but it kind of makes the only two options lie, or force yourself to go quietly, which is just not the only two options at all.
"I'm too emotionally unstable for Jury duty."
"I don't care, wonderful!"
Virgil and Janus both are a mood
"He doesn't like Nazis. That... *_can't_* be where the bar is."
No, it’s around where Jack and Dean live
@@tamarabespoke290 Jack and Dean?
You can hate nazis and *still* be a jerk
I mean it's a good start
@@emanuelrojas2 true ,just look at antifa
"Say you have a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman-"
"You lost me"
It could always be gayer
-Thomas Sanders
What if they are all GAY
Mood
Since there all fractions of Thomas they share all the same aspects of Thomas meaning yes there all gay which I adore so much
He's full rainbow all the time (I'm not hating! I'm making a joke!)
Ok but Deceit sometimes sounds like a teacher in this. He said “and we’re not focussing on that today” and “we’re just going to focus on the_________for today” then continues to give a lecture sooooo we all just had a history lesson today😐
"i'm through with my questioning."
"correction, that was more like lecturing."
It's crazy that despite literally being the personification of deceit, alot of what Deceit says rings true. Even his small jab, "It's so cool how you never listen to Roman." Ends up getting proven shortly after when Patton chastises Roman for supposedly wanting Thomas to lie, even though he actually was offended that Thomas thought that going to the callback was not a good enough reason to miss the wedding.
Plot twist: *He took so long deciding if he should go to the wedding that by time he decided to go, it had already happened.*
We Are Family omg perfect no one would see it coming
😂😂😂
I liked and then I liked again.
Because my first was six hundred sixty six.
We Are Family // I love this😂
Lul
Patton talking to himself and comforting himself is just Sanders Sides in a nutshell.
How did I not notice this
This made me physically pause
I just.. Actually said "oh my God ur not wrong" out loud
Lol
Lark Feathers Ik I loved it so much he’s so adorable
“The one angry man over there”
Virgil: * Prince hood over head *
Deceit getting more and more pissed off with the others is one of the most entertaining things ever. I genuinely think that he's the only competent side.
1) I wanna know Deceit and Virgil's history
2) Patton giving himself a pep talk
3) Virgil's *don'ts* are melting in a puddle of angst
4) *angst™*
5) “don’t let him or any of his friends stay that long ever again.” Who are his friends???
6) Is Patton ok????
I hope so! (I love your picture lol)
For real. IS Patton ok? He seems off... like someone we haven’t met yet is impersonating him too.
@@emilyholmes6979 eek...this could go very bad...
"I'm too emotionally unstable for jury duty may I be excused?"
Mood Virgil
M O O D (also omg ur profile-)
Such daily mood
He was kind about it
Showed manners and no witty comment
Yes he may
@@ominousshadowplays8112 me 24/7
fricking same
I cannot believe it's taken me this long to realize that the reason Virgil didn't answer the question here, (19:46) is because he doesn't want to go to the wedding either, as Thomas' anxiety. and being honest about Thomas' norepinephrine levels (which is a hormone that plays an important role in the body's "fight or flight" response) would reveal that.
Not Virgil trying to give me anxiety but I literally just find everything about him comforting
He’s so comforting for what 😭
ikr how can the literal embodiment of anxiety give me so much seratonin?? 😭
Patton is the type of person who pulls out a “get out of jail free card” at a serious court case
I... Yeah, you know what, you're right.
Why is this accurate!!!
Ha, I get 69th like.
Nice
Theuncreativeyoutube 𝖓𝖔𝖎𝖈𝖊 👌👌👌
DragonRelicVII after making this comment I just said aloud “didn’t Thomas make a vine on this”
My mum was in the room
She was v confused
"Attack the pinata?"
"I belive he's suggesting you should beat someone up and rob their unconcious body, right?"
"...NO!"
CaseyCat ! That’s one of my fav parts.
CaseyCat !
*ATTACK ON PIÑATA*
That’s a big mood
Lol right as I saw this comment I got to that part 😂
I'm Deceit in that situation
Jan saying “oh honey” gives off the same energy that remy gives saying “oh sweetie”
So I'm not the only one who would've skipped the wedding right-
I think almost all of us would’ve tbh
i honestly would have just said "hey, i've got a callback and can't come" and then brought them a wedding gift later.
yeah, I think for the sake of the video they didn't include the third option: just tell your friends the truth and they'd obviously understand if they too were good friends.
nope
Nobody:
Deceit: WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
What I'm getting of Deceit's character aside from lies is that he genuinely tries to do for Thomas what he thinks he needs, he feels Thomas needs to do things for himself, and Deceit is an A N A R C H I S T.
Patton: We do?
Jandiqar Thace not Quite...
When we find out Deceit is an anarchist
@@jandiqar Sorry didn't see you already said that
Things I love about this video already:
- Every time Deceit walks away from where he stands in the courtroom while cackling evilly or as an act of triumph
- Logan shouting from the back of the room
- The whole thing with Virg at the beginning(before the title sequence)
- Deceit's courtroom outfit
- How Virgil distrusts Deceit no matter what
Virgil's smile when Patton made the joke thoughhh.
Fangirl Corps deceit looks like bill cypher to be honest
I mean, i know i would distrust deceit.
Shade Fox haha lol
Janus really showed up to the light sides just to realize that they need more therapy then the dark
“So you’ve never been reluctant to share something with the group?”
“ Don’t. ”
“What? I just meant your name!”
*”D O N T”*
Bad comment don’t like
Thomas: Thanks for setting me straight... despite...--
me: *you being gay?*
Thomas: --the cost..
me: *oH-*
_meraki saudade_
We have been conditioned.
*And it's beautiful.*
BLESS
BLESS
Deceit- Say you had a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman
Roman- you lost me
WHEEZE SAME
Meeeeee!
He’s gay
Kiana Doughnut oooooh didn’t know that
omg yess
Just, same.
I love how they say roman controls thomas's left side as thats what the right brain does, the right brain being the 'creative' side as roman is, this makes logan the left brain, aka the 'logical' side of the brain that also controls the right side and it describes their characters perfectly
I am the left brain I am the left brain, I work day and night until my inevitable death-brain.
@@matthewbartlett3442 ya got a job to do, you better do it right and the right way, is with the left brain's might
My deceit in disguise as my logic :" F A L S E H O O D "
MY ANXIETY : "YEAH LOGIC WOULDN'T SAY THAT"
ME: " NO ANXIETY LOGIC WOULD SAY THAT"
@@pistachio6843 i like Oreos and pu55y! Yes, in that order! And I cried for at least an hour after watching Toy Story 3! Woody! I am the right brain! I have feelings, I’m a little over the place but I’m lustful, trustful and looking for somebody to love!
Wait, so left handed people are picassos?
As a straight man... Thomas's voice is rather enchanting.
Virgil: **trying to give anxiety to other people**
Thomas: “NO, YOU’RE *MY* ANXIETY. NO ONE ELSE’S.”
How were they on screen at the same time?
@@vbvideos6571 very good editing is what i'm guessing-
Possessive Thomas! XD
Green screen
Vigril: is your door locked?
Me: JOKES ON U, IMA CHILD. IDC AND IDC IF MAH DOOR IS LOCKED
virgil: did you forget to turn off the stove?
Me: i can cook but I didn’t do it today.
Roman: WHAT DOES THE JUDGE EVEN DO!!!!
Patton: His best!
"I know it's a lot to ask...but just keep reading."
Patton is too pure
When deceit first left Patton said in the softest purest voice "bye~"
Precious bean
i love my little biscit
Me: cooking dinner, only to get distracted rewatching all the sanders sids over again.
Virgil: "is your door locked? Did you leave the stove on? What do you think people-"
Me: "OH S**T THE STOVE!!!"
Virgil just saved me from burning my dinner. Lol
@Ashley Smith Cyrus haha im glad!
OMG THIS IS LITERALLY ME LOL# mood
I like how the bibles deceit used to swear them all to truth are different, Logan's is a math textbook, Romans is a disney VHS, Thomas' is a regular old leather bound bible, Pattons is a colorful paperback bible, and Virgil's is a red journal
Virgil's is actually Grimm's Fairy Tales!
@@archerwarren4984 that's a cool detail!
Virgil: never let him or his friends stick around for that long ever again
*1 year later*
janus can have a seat at the table if he promises not to push anyone down the stairs
I wanna see our purple boi reaction to this so much
My headcanon for why Virgil wasn’t there is that Janus asked Remus to distract Virgil while he talked with the others, he knew Virgil wouldn’t shut up about how they can’t trust him and all that
Lol love the fact that in the past it was anxiety that didn't have a seat at the table, now it's deceit.
ps. Maybe tag your comment as spoilers so new fanders aren't spoiled?
Giulia CF seriously i can’t wait until the next episode when virgil comes back... like did they never clue him in or did they intentionally leave him out???
cassie elliott
Having a script writing view on this, it's pretty obvious Janus was necessary in that conversation, and if Virgil was there when he showed up a huge part of the dialogue would focus on Virgil freaking out on how he hates Janus and don't want him there, considering that the section of the video with Janus was the most important one cause it basically explained the whole lesson of the episode, Virgil being there was unacceptable cause it would change the focus, not to mention Janus is no longer considered a bad guy after this episode so Virgil hating on him would just confuse the viewers.
Tho I wonder WHY does Virgil and Janus dislike eachother so much? I really hope we learn more about their past next episode
Giulia CF yeah that makes a lot of sense! and i agree, i hope we find out a lot more about their past in the next ep. virgil has always seemed like such a complex character to me, he has so many layers that i can tell are just eager to be explored
7 months later: still hasn’t re-dyed his hair and Virgil is mad.
Virgil: am I a joke to you
@@morgolig6095 Patton: If you keep talking bad about yourself, *_I will tackle hug you._*
@@dogocatostudios8719 Logan:PATTON,VIRGIL STOP
@Nicole Crouch
Remus : BUTTS!
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The music whenever Deceit appears actually really slaps. Shame it’s not linked in the description
If you still want to know, it’s Mysterious Paths by Marco Belloni
@@WisteriaIsHere omg thank you so much!
@@WisteriaIsHere thanks!! I've always loved it but had no idea how to search it!
Deceit was there because Patton was lying.
Patton created two different dilemmas (honesty vs lying and right vs wrong) to conflate with and distract from the real dilemma (selfishness vs selflessness) because Patton didn't want to reveal that he believed Thomas was amoral for wanting things. Patton is also the one who defined the parameters and terms during the trial and played dumb to keep everyone using those definitions for his benefit.
Deceit wasn't calling attention to Patton's apparent incompetence to be malicious, he was calling attention to it because Patton uses it to control discussions.
"Take him away. He's a fake!" "What-no! I am the real Roman." Looking back, knowing about Remus and all of Roman's insecurities, this line has SO many layers.
BUT WHAT DID JANUS SPELL JSJASJDHSHAJSH
Lyrical Miracle Wrommin it’s just an odd way to spell Roman lol
@@justarandomperson345 for some reason I read that as Ramen
Akkua Blue lol 👌
seriously! it's so weird rewatching all the old videos knowing what we know now
Does anyone realized that if Deceit didn’t mention the fact that he doesn’t like the Nazis the whole court room thing wouldn’t have happened
True...
Thomas needed an excuse
Which wouldn’t have lead them to making the decision that Thomas was going to the wedding
So Deceit actually helped them a lot by making at comment lmao
LunaFox 45 he might be the part of Tomas that embodies deceit but he’s still a voice like the others and while anxiety also started off seeming villainous it’s because he wanted to help but didn’t think anyone would listen to him if he was soft so he went emo and intimidating but still had the best interests at Heart and eventually became a good guy I think deceit and the duke also are “good” as they also want to help Tomas in their own ways like mentioned above deceit set up the court room and ended up being the reason tomas goes to the wedding and the duke helps Tomas accept that his creativity isn’t black and white
Oh my God!
VIRGIL SMILING TO PATTON'S PUNS IS THE MOST WHOLESOME THING I'VE EVER SEEN
25:10 “and now ur marrying that prince” *Virgil looks at Roman- I rest my case :)
Ikr, I never see anyone talk about that moment
Holy shoot im keeping this-
How is no one talking about this piece of pure gold:
Deceit: "I didn't say liar, I said lawyer. ...Totally different." 😂😂😂
Kimberly one of the best lines 😂
What the difference tho?
@@canadianprincipality8987 there is no difference... Listen to the song The Pot by Tool
then later he repeats "it takes a liar to know a liar" and no one bats an eyelid
Are they though?
deceit: say you had a stereotypical relationship between a man and a woman
roman: you lost me
GOD i love them
But gayer
Miranda Bryant
Oh NOW that makes sense
23:52
Me: huh
👏👏👏👏 i love da gay.
ALSO YOUR PFP!! IS THAT SEBASTIAN STAN!?!
Anybody notice the books each character swore the oath on?
Logan: “Grand Design” by Stephen Hawking
Roman: A VHS case for Pinnochio
Thomas: A Bible
Virgil: Book of Grimms Fairy Tales
Patton: Catholic Youth Bible
😂😂
@@AuggieG2004 ahh makes sense. Just updated the post, thank you!
I did not notice that thank you for pointing that out
Virgil: I'm to mentally unstable for jury duty, can I be excused?
Me: this man is a MOOD
It is perfection.
Sometimes I actually forget how good an actor Thomas is , I forget all these characters are still him and that just shows it. Really need to appreciate him more.
How do you forget this amazing angel of this mans
I agree that I keep forgetting they're all Thomas. The sides seem almost real sometimes!
To me, they all sound like they have different voices even though they’re *still* Thomas.
and I'm loving his performance of Deceit! I can't get over how different he feels than all the other characters
Right?! I was like:
"wow Deceit does a really good Virgil impression!
...
...
...
Oh right... because it's Thomas... they're all Thomas -.-"
"to watch mary-lee marry lee merrily and their life becomes a dream" is such an underrated joke
Bec Marie I don't know what it's called, could just be boredom, but I have this thing by which (it's a bi witch) my brain goes through all sorts of media while I'm working to keep me focused. Recently, I have been going through this and the Intrusive Thoughts episodes from beginning to end (though I skip over most of Logan's wordy explanations lol). And I always have to stop myself from grinning like a loon whenever I get to such lines as "You lost me," and "Done."
Aina Song “You lost me” is because Roman is a flamboyant gay. At least, that’s what I think.
Honestly it’s one I think about regularly like I just randomly remembered it today and had to come back and watch this again
It literally took me 3 whole rewatches of this vid to get the joke while this entire time I could've scrolled down the comments instead
XD
All of Romans jokes are, honestly. I catch myself smiling and giggling whenever one crosses my mind :p
37:01 Virgil’s smirk when deceit is frustrated is amazing
This episode literally made me look at Deceit and go "wow how does he do such a good Virgil impression"
Seriously a testament to irl Thomas' acting skills that i routinely forget that these are all just characters played by the same guy XD
23:53
Deceit: "Say you had a stereotypical relationship between a man & a women"
Roman: "You lost me.."
Omg XD
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
OUR GAY PRINCE HAS DONE IT AGAIN
XD🤣
XD
Yes!!!
Stuff i liked about this
-Virgil being so cute as usual
-I really missed Logan saying" Falsehood" a lot
-Deceit's role in the story
-The Script & Thomas' Acting was on point
-Effing character development
-And a little life lesson.( just like the one they show in cartoons.)
i mean, almost all of the Sanders Sides' episode are meant to give a life lesson..
anxious dude. Virgil is always cute
I don‘t know why but this is my favourite episode. I rewatched this so many times and I still skip backwards a lot because I appreciate the puns, the jokes, the scenary, the mimic of the characters and the characters dynamics. I love this episode.
It's my favourite episode too :D
SAME HERE! 😁
its one of my favorites too. mainly because of janus. hes _so_ entertaining.
Virgil: Is your door locked?
Me: Yes
Virgil: Did you leave the stove on?
Me: No
Virgil: What do you think people say about you when you leave the room?
Me: Now you've hit a nerve
Yup that's my life
My side's
Downty- anxiety
Stu: ADHD side
Mark:Brains
Wily: Creative
My answer was AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
They say I'm annoying. But then again they say that to my face.
So true
Deceit: **shows off his symbol which is a huge deal**
Patton: ooh, lookit the little tongues!
Hey, it's bestgirl!! 😄😀😁😀😄
Me: HOLY FRICC ITS TWO FACE
Janus.
Topaz Productions 11, low-key my reaction
pinkie2054 the symbol basically means that Deceit is, and always will be, apart of Thomas.
I just realized: Virgil says don't let him or any of his friends stick around that long ever again". Friends. Plural. We only know of Remus. Even further proof of there being one more side we've yet to be introduced to.
:0 YeS
He'll probably be logans counterpart since virgil has no counterpart
Virgil: "Did you leave the stove on?"
Me: "frick, I made coffee today" *gets out of bed at 12:06 am to check*
Virgil: never let him or his friends stick around for that long ever again
*3* *months* *later*
Remus happens
Virgil: ughhhhh
“Friends”? Plural? :o are there other dark sides??
Yep
@@pandimensionalfrog9010 yes, they've kind of been over it
Now: "maybe we should let deceit have a seat at the table"
Nicole Briant wait what? I know about Remus but I think people have kind of forced “sleep” (Remy” from the vines and Emile Picani into the fandom so I wander which side they would be
The fact he said ' _you_ guys literally know him as deceit' instead of ' _we_ literally know him as deceit' implies he knows his name and all the other sides names but won't tell which really makes sense seen as he used to be a dark side :3
edgy kiddos I noticed that as well! 😄
Yup and I just want to go and high five the anxious bean and tell him it's ok and it's high five because I know he won't hug a stranger.
I've seen this like 5 times already and only just noticed that
I is confusled
I imagine that deceits real name will finally be revealed when virge accidently blurts it out while being mad at him
This video is seriously foreshadowing Virgil having used to be a dark side.
WHERE?!!!
@Jordyn Rowland ....alright, guess I'm just blind
Runaway Pirate he was. Latest vid
I mean I realized the part where he said “do not let him or... his friends-“ pretty much says he was a friend. In other words, he paused before he said his friends because he doesn’t want Thomas to restrict him from showing up
I rewatched this video and uMmM have you seen the new one? UwU
Name spoilers below!
Going back to this episode after SVSR, I feel so bad for Roman. He got yelled at and told off for supporting Janus in this episode and then got yelled at and told off AGAIN in SVSR for _not_ supporting him, so I can't blame him for feeling betrayed by Thomas at the end of that episode. Not to mention the fact that him laughing at Janus's name reveal was literally par for the course for Roman- he did the exact same thing to Virgil when he revealed _his_ name.
And let’s not forget that Deceit made fun of Roman’s name first.
W-R-O-A-M-M-I-N
It means “Remorse” in Western Frisian.
What's SVSR?
Nevermind-
Yeah, but I feel bad for Janus too. It’s obvious that names are a very important and private thing- at least for some of the sides (notably Janus and Virgil but everyone except Remus seems to care quite a lot otherwise they’d have revealed them a long time before this series started) and Janus was using his name as a “I want you all to trust me and for us to do better as a group” type of reveal. Roman made fun of that. Janus is honestly very likely to be insecure about his name. Virgil doesn’t dislike his name, he just didn’t want to put his trust out there in case it was broken. (Or funnier option for why he said that, snakes can actually not distinguish colours as well as humans and are likely to be dichromatic in daylight, meaning they see two primary colours compared to the three that humans see. So he might genuinely not be able to tell if it weren’t for Remus having a moustache)
@@teassa3820 he reaps what he sows. i did feel a bit bad for him too, but given he manipulated roman, using his obvious insecurities to his advantage, (and then went for the fucking kill with the "evil twin" comment) i feel like he kind of deserved it. roman is a bit unfairly mean sometimes, but he usually only genuinely insults someone if they insult him first. and janus 100% insulted him first.
30:08 PATTON MAKING VIRGIL SMILE AWE HE KNOWS HE"S STRESSED OUT BUT WANTED TO MAKE HIM SMILE OMG
Roman : How do you plead?
Thomas : *looks at Patton*
Patton : *looks at Logan*
Logan : *mouths* Not guilty
Patton : *looks to Thomas*
*mouths* Hot milky
Thomas : dot pinkie
Logan : FLAMES.
ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE.
🙃 I get the Clue reference
S-SEETHING FLAMES
Okay that killed me reading this XD
Sophia P. Same, I love that movie! Doesn’t Ms. White say that?🤣
CLUUEEEE
Logan: says one thing
Roman: “ *OrDeR! ORdEr iN ThE CoUrT!!!* “
Helena Rosno this is beautiful
I’d like some fries.
Omg XD
Can I get a waffle? Can I please get a waffle??
11:59
Everyone: I do
Patton: Okay, so do we kiss now, or-?
Me: *W H E E Z E* That was perfect
I NEED AN ALTERNATIVE EPISODE WHERE EVERYONE KISS IN THAT PART
I can't believe it took me three years to figure out why Roman was acting so weird while he was the judge. He wasn't being creativity here, but one of his secondary roles as the ego. I'm so slow omg
VIRGIL SAID DONT LET HIM OR ANY OF HIS FRIENDS STICK AROUND. ANY OF
HIS FRIENDS.
FRIENDS.
THE REST OF THE DARK SIDES ARE COMING SOON
YES THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY
Omg..
I didn’t notice that 😮
I HOPE WE DONT HAVE TO WAIT AS LONG
I noticed I'm excited
Any of you guys read “Glitch (prinxiety)” on Wattpad
Thomas: "I plead the 6th"
Deceit: "Oh honey, you mean the 5th.
Thomas: "NO, I MEAN THE 6TH AMENDMENT!"
Logan: *Raises his hand like (YEA TELL EM! FINALLY YOU LEARNT SOMETHING)*
I kinda feel bad for Logan. He got thrown into the back seat. For *no* reason. Also, Patton got thrown into the deep end. And Logan had to watch the whole train wreck that Deceit orchestrated.
I just learned about the Bill of Rights in my history class so I actually understood this part 😅
@@-ellieille- I just learned them yesterday and remembered some today so ya
5th amendment:you dont have to speak and people cant say your guilty bc you didn"t speak
6th amendment:speedy trial by jury and its a fair jury (or something like that i started forgetting it at the end)
Actually if you turn on closed captions, you'll be able to catch everything that they say. Exactly as they say it, and when they say it.
Each of their ties in the courtroom have the same pattern as their regular clothes outside of the courtroom. Thomas' is floral like his shirt. Patton's is bright blue. Virgil's is his hoodie. Such a clever wardrobe move.
hey did anyone else notice the way janus replied "oh, of course you don't" to logan saying he doesnt have feelings at 14:00? it's the same tone he uses in response to thomas and the others when theyre lying, or he is
Can we appreciate Logan just correcting the legal jargon from the back? Cause that’s amazing. And would be me.
Also, Virgil, I love you
Tessa Foley I love Virgil too....
He is just misunderstood.💚❤️💜
666 likes :)
Who doesn’t?
The correct term is badgering
Dead Potato ORDER! ORDER IN THE COURT! Go ahead Patton