So many good albums came out mostly Nu Metal between 2000-2003.. Only someone born then or after would say that. Back in 2000-2001 (Until after 9/11) It was still pretty late 90's... And Nu Metal was the hottest thing going. Say what you want about Nu Metal but it kept metal in the mainstream. Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park, P.O.D., Creed, Staind ect. All had mainstream success in 2000
Fear Factory is metal meets alternative? Love your videos man as I appreciate the deep dives, but can’t agree with you on that. Soul of a new Machine cannot be called alt metal
"John the Fisherman" is such a good song. It's the perfect fusion of aggressive playing and funky beats. But let's be honest, basically all of Primus' songs have that feel. Very underated.
Heroin fuels the music scene; creativity and artistically it does anyway. It's always the ones who are the biggest fuck ups or junky pieces of shit that are the most amazing song writers.
@LWKGD tell that to dave mustaine , Chris Poland, the whole jazz scene and countless other legendary artists, not just in the music scene but in general
'Demanufacture' and Machine Head's 'Burn My Eyes' set the new standards for sheer guitar heaviness at that time. The quantum leap in production quality was immense, thanks to the likes of Ross Robinson and Colin Richardson. And of course, Terry Date and Pantera for leading the way.
I'd be interested to see like a "state of the scene" video. Like, where is metal and hardcore today? What are the big trends, what's popular, who are the new players, etc. I'm unfortunately not super familiar with what's going on anymore and I think it could be an interesting video.
Me too I tend to just listen to bands that have been around for a while idc if there considered mainstream in the metal scene or not as long as there not death metal or whatever I'll give them a listen
You guys should check out the podcast called “The State of the Scene”! Not from Finn, but I think it might be along the lines of what you’re looking for
He pretty much made a video about that last week, stating that rock today is pretty much dead and bands that were formed before the 2000s pretty much still dominate the scene and headline festivals. His conclusion was its a matter of offer and demand
Helmet had great song all over their discography. Meantime is my favorite album, but songs like "Wilma's Rainbow", "Smart", "Exactly What You Wanted", and "Throwing Punches" are every bit as good.
Helmet- Have you ever seen a band look more like just a bunch of regular geek looking dudes play such tight, heavy music? The early stuff almost sounds industrial machine like but that's them just playing! Highly underrated.
I was obsessed with them in the 90’s-00’s, and finally got there see them in 2014, for a Betty 20 year tour! It was awesome, and I got to take my husband and bring him back to my alt teen years :)
You mean Alice In Chains, Helmet, Faith No More Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Danzig, Depeche Mode, L7, Living Color Ozzy Osbourne, Jane's Addiction, Primal Scream
Type O Negative took Goth Rock to a whole new level... They made their music sexual, dark, and tragic... I remember wearing their shirts in high school and many asking me if I was type o negative blood instead of them knowing it was a band.
Culturally and musically, 91-94 was an unbelievable time period. This is not just nostalgia. Everything really did feel new, authentic and fresh. I really can't think of any time period since then that we experienced anything similiar.
Your comment on the media environment is dead on. I constantly see people my age (early 40s) and even a few years younger bitching about how there’s no good music being made anymore, it’s all in the past, etc which is completely untrue. What’s changed is that now you have to make more of an effort to seek it out. Back in 1994 it was pretty much inescapable. You couldn’t turn on the radio or MTV without having something great practically thrown in your face, because for whatever reason the media were much less risk averse. Nowadays it’s almost like it’s their job to keep you away from anything that’s challenging or interesting, which is why we’re looking for it here on RUclips or Spotify or what have you.
Back then I remember magazines being so influential and I'm happy he mentionned them. I can't tell you how many hours I spent getting hyped while flipping through Spin or Rolling Stones mags. I'd even cut out band pics and artwork from mags and stick them on my wall. I have vivid memories of two eras : Smashing Pumpkins type focused publications, and Marilyn Manson & co type publications.
I think a lot of the reason why people our age complain that there’s no good music anymore is because they don’t know *how* to seek it out. To younger people platforms like Spotify are intuitive. Meanwhile a lot of people my age (I’m 44) stick with Pandora or Sirius XM because they don’t understand how to navigate Spotify. They’re accustomed to having everything spoon fed to them.
It was basically Metallica. Even in the Misfits book "This music leaves Stains" they basically cred Metallica. Before Metallica did those covers and introduced their fan base to the Misfits Jerry Only didn't give a shit about the Misfits royalties, because there was none. But then Metallica covered them and all of a sudden the royalties started pouring in. Jerry sued Glenn right after that. The Guns and Roses royalties helped. They were basically getting $0.10 for each song covered for each album sold. That's a lot of money when you're selling as many albums as Metallica and Guns and Roses. The story is longer than that but the Metallica covers basically created their popularity.
@@thesilverhawaiian5024 dude i remember listening to meantime back in the day and was just blown away. Like i couldnt believe what was coming out of the speakers type of sound. Thats one, number 2, these mofo were our backyard band being from nyc so i went to see them like a week after, i was entering the underground scene at that time and age.
John Stanier, Helmet‘s drummer, is still very active and successful with Battles. Helmet was one of the biggest bands in the 90‘s, had the pleasure to see them live back in the days.
They’re an interesting band. They were hardcore/punk /metal crossover in the 80’s, then stoner metal in the 90’s, and now bordering on sludge and southern. Great band.
I used to hang out with them in the 80's when they still lived in Raleigh. They definitely adapted, improvised, and evolved since then. Vote with a Bullet, Hell yes.
“Alternative metal” and “Nu-Metal” are very interconnected and often share the same fanbase. Before “Nu-Metal” term was invented, bands like Korn were considered to be “Alternative Metal”
Nah bro, it was always called Nu-Metal or just garbage. It was called Nu-Metal as a slang and an insult. It was different but a step backwards musically from the stuff in the 80's and nothing new under the sun. Thats why it was called Nu Metal. It was called Alternative Metal after that by the labels when they figured out that the initial audience rock and metal heads weren't buying into it. So they pitched it to the grunge and alt-rock, punk crowd who adopted it as Alt Metal. So you can tell who you are talking to with it, if they call it Nu-Metal, its a metalhead or music enthusiast in general. If Alt-Metal is used you are talking to a grunge, basic citizen, poser, or industry exec. Thats basically it.
tw19771 yeah well, it’s only your opinion. Not more than that. Not to mention that term “nu-metal” appeared in magazines only in 1997. And it is sub genre of alternative metal.
@@PeterMacLeod88 No, people were calling Nu-Metal Nu-Metal as far back as 1996.If not 1995. How do I know? Because I called Korn and Limp Bizkit that at the time and my friends used it, and everybody else to describe what they were doing. The Alt-Metal label didn't take off until the late 90's when bands that would have been thrown in the catagory were reboxed as Alt-Metal because Nu-Metal by the time 1997 hit, had no favorable reputation among metalheads, but had a sizable following among the non metal crowds. So by 1997, 1998 Nu-Metal got compartmentalized to mean "Metal with rap vocals" because the press didn't want to deal with the radioactive musical waste dump that Korn and Limp Bizkit left behind. When trying to market these other bands. Thats not opinion its a fact, and real world street experience bests google search ninja skills anyday.
I'm 46 now, and I always remember bands like Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Fear Factory, even NIN (once they released the 'Broken' EP) being referred to as 'industrial', rather than 'alt-metal.'. No matter what you call it, I loved so many of those bands, and still do. I was a huge fan of punk and thrash, and also new wave and what came to be called 'alternative' (I also remember when it was called 'college rock', LOL). Industrial combined everything I loved about all those genres, and I still listen to it today. Good video; took me right back to the day too!
SerialGothQueens I would love to see a vid on Industrial. So many great bands. Everything Skinny Puppy released was phenomenal, and I’ll include The Process in that.
Yes, Industrial was rather influential on nu-metal, and actually experiened a short "moment in the sun" in the mid to late 90s thanks largely to the success of NIN.
@@saurondp Filter is still putting out good, heavy industrial to this day. It amazes me how bands like that can have such a heavy, big ass guitar sound but still sound completely different than metal. The added electronic sounds are obviously a part of that, but even the guitar sounds entirely different regardless of how brutally heavy it is.
oh no please no... as much as I do love 90's emo if he made that happen you would have hordes of nerds claiming what it is "real emo"... so no thank you
@@violetagardenia I remember him doing a video on MCR and talking shit about the "real emo" douches lmao, so i don't think he'll do a video on it, or if he knows enough about it to make a video on it, as much as I'd like to see it
he’s said on instagram that he can’t stand that genre nor the majority of its internet fandom, so i don’t think it’ll happen. makes me sad, but hey, we can’t fault him for having preferences 🤷🏻♂️
Sunny Day Real Estate, The Promise Ring , Mineral , Knapsack , Christie Front Drive and Jimmy Eat World *is my favorite band*. Oh the punk-emo bands (The Get Up Kids) Plus the genre influenced everything from Paramore/Fall Out Boy to Tigers Jaw to Mom Jeans. Seems to important to not do a video on.
Yeah I suggested to do a progression of emo video. Like from Sunny Day Real Estate Hum and Bright Eyes and bands like that to the monstrosity that it is today. Most people who claim to be emo today have no idea where it came from.
I love Helmet too! I crank the shit out of them. I don't care how old it is or how many people care about it or not. Good music stays good no matter what.
Dude i love helmet. I was literally telling someone tonight about seeing them with prong.... Great show. I feel like an old lady at 41, but i still love helmet and punk and NIN and TOOL and that kind of shit. I'll never find a soulmate.
This was a great time to be a teenager, still into a lot of this music. Just saw ministry and primus and Phil Anselmo with the illegals play a bunch of pantera songs at Slayer’s final two shows in LA 7 weeks ago
Agreed... we were the last generation before the tech boom, like kids born just before the industrial revolution, they were laborers, workers deprived of what we consider a “childhood” and thought the generation of “boomers” to follow were spoiling their kids... but I think the discoveries made during teenage years are always super integral to how you grow as a person... everything is so defining during puberty and really impacts our sense of self through our lives 💖
The term “College Rock” comes from these bands being played on independent college radio stations, since they weren’t being played on mainstream radio stations originally.
The first two Lollapalooza tours were epic it's hard to describe unless you were there. The late 80s early 90s was great time to be a young music fan at the time it almost felt like a revolution was afoot.
Demanufacture is still one of my favorite metal albums of all time. At the time it was the heaviest shit I had ever heard and it holds up completely to today’s stuff. I honestly never knew a drummer could be that fast and precise.
I first heard Fear Factory on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack and it changed my life... Holy shit was Demanufacture heavy beyond heavy!!!!! Raymond Herrera, what a fucking banger of a drummer!
@@BeatsAndMeats Exactly the same for me, Zero Signal is still my favorite song of theirs. Come to think of it, that was a pretty good soundtrack. Type O, Napalm Death, KMFDM, GZR...good shit.
La Sexorcisto is amazing. The guitar, bass, and drums are a master class in what tightness sounds like. I’ve played a lot of music in my time, but I’ve always said, if I could ever do anything I would want to be Ivan De Prume on that album.
Type O Negative will be the winner in the long run. Standing there with Slayer and Metallica. That music is timeless in its perfection of gothic vibe and metal sound. Its going nowhere but back into the machine to be reinterpreted. GWAR was easily the most fun band of the 90's, and went very strong into the 2000's. I saw them in '04 and they were just killing it in front of a packed house of University kids and hardcore drug addicts.
Good pick. Myself I'd say Fear Factory and Helmet are the champions and will be remembered fondly for a long time. But I like your pick too and could live with that
@@FinalBaton even im pretty confident that FF and Helmet (Ifrekinluv'emafreakinlot) inspired more kids to make music, Type O Negative are just... I dont have the words to descirbe their greatness! I can only compare them to the great german writes Mann and Hesse: so different, deep and mystical and at the same time playful, roguish even lewd (😉) but sooooo fucking relatable! Their use of por culture was awesome! And their music and sound are just fuckn genius. One of the best bands ever!
We were spoiled rotten back then. We had all kinds of great grunge, hardcore, thrash, death, stoner, shoegaze, post-hardcore, etc.TON certainly earned their place, but plenty of other bands were just as influential.
I thought the B 52's were more part of that EARLY 80's "New Wave" movement that also included Devo, Talking Heads, The Knack, Oingo Boingo, The Dickies, Tubeway Army, The Police, Blondie etcetera. THEIR first album came out in 1979 and their first hit song was Rock Lobster in 1980.
to be fair the B-52s had there 1st run in the early 80s with original guitarist and early AIDS casualty Ricky Wilson. After he died in 85 the band was kind of defunct for awhile till they regrouped and had more of a mainstream sound than in previous records with Cosmic Thing
@@nonameman7114 i think the reason why is that AIC is seen as the most pure example of what grunge, “should be” to music elitists, which ignores their metal elements. Personally i think the prime “grunge” example should be soundgarden but meh.
The "Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" came out in 1990 or there-a-bouts. Perhaps you are thinking about "The Land of Rape and Honey" which came out in '88. I know because I saw Ministry in '88 and '90, both times at the Cameo in Miami.
Alt-anything was cool. Im 45yrs old. heard a song on Spotify that took me back, "high" by Jimmy's chicken shack. I agree with you on helmet, rollins was my skateboarding music.😁
I saw Jimmy's chicken shack so many times! it seemed like they were always opening up for whoever I was there to see . Miss the good old days when music was music!
Primus is actually one of the most interesting bands ever imo. You should do a whole video on them! Like everything about them is so unique and interesting: sound, vocals, music videos, the bass... les is an amazing bass player! I would love a video on this band
The thing that blows my mind most about Primus, are the incredibly slim odds that those 3 freakshow musicians somehow all managed to end up in the same band. I think most musicians that are even fractionaly so unique generally end up going their whole lives without ever playing in a band that is actually a good fit for them.
@@bushleague3472 At one point, Primus made more money on tour than Michael Jackson the same year. For music of this type that is an amazing and inspiring fact.
I graduated high school in 93’, and yes, this was easily the most exciting time in heavy music. There really was an “anything goes” mentality. Also, it was ok to like many different styles of music. You weren’t stuffed in a box as a music fan during this time period. You were able to like anything.
La Sexorcisto is one of my top ten favorite albums, ever. I’ve listened to it for at least twenty-five years...love it. I still listen to Helmet and Rage as well, but that White Zombie album...it just doesn’t get boring.
Both Primus and Helmet had their own run of absolutely fantastic albums. Frizzle Fry, Sailing The Seas Of Cheese, and Pork Soda from Primus are masterpieces, and Meantime, Betty, and Aftertaste by Helmet are three of the best albums of the 90s. Helmet is criminally underrated, and I can't recommend them enough. Page Hamilton's guitar tone hits you like a Mack truck, and "Driving Nowhere" is one of the strongest songs of the decade.
Driving Nowhere's lyrics (and Page's lyrics in general) are SO smart and thought-provoking. Helmet's music always challenges me, which is why I love them so much.
I’m 22 and I got into Danzig and fear factory and it’s opened my world to a whole spur of music that I couldn’t even begin to jot down. I whole heartedly agree that the metal that came out of those scenes during that era still holds up. all of my friends love listening to all of those bands. Ironically I think most people in my generation who listen to this kind of stuff see alt metal and nu metal as basically the same thing we just love it all and listen to it in the same vain... vein?.....vane??...whatever. But yeah Danny boy, Type O Negative, and Rollins Band, were all very formative bands for my youth and are still constantly played for me.
It's to your generation what Led Zepp, Jimi, Doors, Sabbath, Stones, Floyd, etcetcetc was to my generation. It'll happen again, the old bands are dying out, the scene is getting stale, something will grow of its ashes.
"Nevermind" was released in 1991, like a week apart from the "Black album". Not in 1992. But nevertheless, I was a pre teen at the time remember all those bands and MTV programs. That was a great time for innovative music and musicians
I always loved Helmet. It's funny, I never saw them as alternative metal, even though they emerged at this time. To me, they always have been more of a punk or hardcore band and the first time I heard them I thought: Great, those guys also like Fugazi.
Never saw Helmet as metal at all, they were heavy post hardcore, ala Quicksand, with whom I saw them play with several times in the 90s. Also ties to noise (former Am Rep band after all) and grunge. I think they opened for Nirvana a couple times, and that heavy drop D guitar was used by Nirvana and Soundgarden, among others, at times. Also had more of a hardcore look. Short hair at a time when everyone had long hair.
This is by far my favorite era of music. I try not to be that old guy stuck in the past but I do still listen to a lot of these bands fairly regularly. I think the real peak of these bands was in 1994. I remember Woodstock '94 being a huge deal especially for Nine Inch Nails who's performance while covered in mud still gets talked about today. It was also soundtracks to movies like The Crow that turned me on to some of these bands. But that was also right around the time Green Day and Nu-Metal started emerging like you said. Clutch is another good example of one of these bands that still has a huge fan base today. I also think Fear Factory is super underrated for their influence on metal. I could go on and on but great video as always! Perhaps a "What killed Groove Metal" video next?
I think we revolve heavily around the music we came up to and that's just how it is. Now, if you hate every form of new music there is, then you might be a grumpy old man yes...
Deftones became kind of alt-metal with White Pony. Also bands like Dillinger Escape Plan and Mastodon were influenced by alt-metal. Especially Neurosis which could be labeled as 90s alt-metal.
I always looked at Deftones as more of an influence to Nu Metal than an actual Nu metal band. From the first album they kind of had like a hardcore thing going on and they would tour with Bad Brains and on The Warped Tour.
No Deftones did not. That's only a thing said by people who thought it was not cool to like Nu metal because it was mainstream (Nu metal was hated big time by most metal fans who wanted to seem like real fans of the genre around that time) and wanted to like the Deftones. After White pony the band redid the song Back to school so they could have rap style vocals on, now that's very nu metal.
Bryer Dawsey Nola isn’t a big enough scene for a full video of sludge/doom to me. I could see if you included bands from other regions like grief, sleep, burning witch or dystopia etc... you could pad it out for a decent video
I kind of agree with that a little bit. MTV was all about the music until the mid 90s. The "reality shows" didn't start becoming more prevalent on MTV until about 1998 from what I remember (which might not be a coincidence since that was when the boy bands and Britney Spears kind of music became huge). But I also agree with the video that it was the shift in musical taste to bands like Green Day, 311, Korn, Offspring, Silverchair, Marilyn Manson, etc. that had an impact.
89-94 will always be my favourite time for pop culture and music. SO many historic moments in music and cinema like KoRn, RATM, Nirvana, Green Day, Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction etc etc
Joseph Reynolds Well without Dave the personality and humor isn’t what it used to be, but they do a fine job at it anyhow. If Mike was sick, he’s fine now. All of the band sounds great. The stage show is funny and violent as ever. Some rarities on the setlist too.
I read they had a ton of issues recording it. They kept working it, replaying, re recording. It wasn't put out until they felt it was perfect. Probably explains why it's such a polished masterpiece. :)
Demanufacture...Remember when I bought the CD and when I listened to it completely...I was like: I don't like this album its quite heavier. And left it there. Then like a week or 2, listened to it again, and again. And it grew on me, their sound was so unique, that it took me by surprise. Love It !!!
me neither i'd always classify them as rap metal but if you listen to the self titled you can honestly hear some post-hardcore dynamics in there, listen with an open ear it's def there. but i agree it was weird to see him casually lump RATM in as a post-hardcore group
late 90's NIN & Mnason brought me to the Goth scene in my late teens. A lotta girls were into it and I lived a stone's throw from the gothiest place on Earth- Montreal. LOL Or... is/was London more Goth? So as Nu-metal emerged, I submerged into Cure, Depeche, Portishead, bauhaus, etc... I wouldn't have even know about Bauhaus if it wasn't for Goth Talk on SNL. GAWD Molly SHannon looked howt as a goth chik.
@@joseangelmontoya8623 Ugh. Already got that title from my 9 year old's friends. Overheard them say it sooo many times. And I'm just being me. Makes me smile.
Do you know how bummed out people were when the Black Album came out? I seen metalheads crying in the hallways at the high school! And during that tour they played two or three songs off the album people were not happy it was Enter Sandman of wolf and man and something else I can't remember I was too busy avoiding getting my ass kicked!
I was only 11/12yrs old 91/92. Just discovering Rock, Metal..Back album was Metallica's debut record for all I cared..No older bro/friend setting the record straight on such matters...I literally reversed their catalog -In Order - nxt couple yrs Twas all good till Reload..
Let me guess.. You are one of those "I heard Them first!" People.. Nirvana didn't get country wide mainstream coverage until beginning of January 1992. That's when Sears started selling out of red flannel shirts,lol.
@@bonnyheather I Saw Alice in Chains Get booed off stage! Opening up for Slayer Anthrax and Megadeth. I seen Soundgarden badmotorfinger open up for Metallica and yeah nobody knew who these people were!
I love the “post hard core” stuff more today than I used to. Some really incredible avant-garde stuff out of that era. Fugazi, Orange 9mm among my faves.
My favorite era of metal/hard rock is easily the first half of the 90s. There was something for everybody the first half of the 90s. Guns n Roses, Metallica, Nirvana, RATM, Pantera, White Zombie, Alice In Chains, Ministry, Type-0-Negative, NIN, Aerosmith made a comeback , Fear Factory, Sepultura , Machine Head, Soundgarden , COC, Body Count, Megadeth, Slayer, Pearl Jam, Danzig, Marilyn Manson.....what a time for rock music.
@@knightsonofjacklol yep that’s actually back when I would watch the music video if it came on MTV or listen to it on the radio. I think they’re a very talented band, but man the last 20 years I just have not care for their newer stuff.
I feel like Alt MEtal laid so much of the foundations for Nu Metal that a ton of Nu Metal bands would have been labelled Alt Metal if they were around five years earlier. I mean is Static X really such a departure from White Zombie for example?
Yes it is. The nu metal was not nearly as good as what came earlier. Look at the lyrical content and the attitude beyond the fact that nu metal was musically stagnant upon inception. There are so many nuances to a band like White Zombie that later bands clearly lacked.
Pantera Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power were also huge albums - although they are considered more metal and not alternative at all - they were still a new form of alternative styled metal. If you're into guitar oriented alt metal definitely go towards Helmet and Prong. You also failed to mention Alice in Chains - a HUGE alt/grunge metal band. Therapy? also another great band.
Yeah....I don't remember it being called Alt-metal at the time. I think that was a term used later on; as I recall it was just all part of the 'alternative rock'....which is also a terrible name.
@Sean Fisher I LOVE rock but the new shit on the radio is unbelievably fucking bad,the dudes literally sound like whining women and the lyrics match it.
Seemed like everything faded out in the 90's. Tthe first half of the decade was awesome, but I think corporate formulaism took over the second half of the decade & set the precedent from then till now. Kinda why Woodstock '99 got set on fire.
FCC act of '96, boy bands on the covers of RS and Spin... in 1996, SNL had every single Republican candidate on as a host. RATM with Forbes. WTH? God what a wierd decade!
man it's somehow weird to me that GTA San Andreas introduced me to Alt-Rock and Alt-Metal for a kid like me back then where I find shit for myself, especially when I was still an edgy kid 5-6 years ago. Radio X's Helmet, Depeche Mode, Faith No More, Living Colour, Danzig, RATM, Sound Garden, Alice In Chains, Stone Temple Pilots... especially Helmet's Unsung, we used to jam with that back in highschool 3times a week on my new thin acoustic that has pickups innit and a shit drums set. damn
Just discovered this channel recently, and I must say - LOVE IT! This video in particular spoke to me. I was born in the late '70's and became interested in music around this time (middle school age-ish). Most, if not all, of these bands I still listed to and have a wicked soft spot for. Keep up the great content.
I think Type O Negative is probably one of the most underrated bands of all time. I can't believe that it was just lumped into a group of absolutely inferior bands. Type O Negative is such a solid band that they deserve their own video.
Sounded to me like he dissed TON. Said something about a "cult band with one hit album" while showing live footage of the band, then listed all his "legends" without mentioning Peter Steele, while Pete's face is onscreen.
Fear Factory was AWSOME. Demanufacture and Obsolete were such great albums. I saw them at Ozzfest in Minneapolis in ‘97. Show also had Marilyn Manson, Pantera, PM5K, of course Ozzy, and the Black Sabbath reunion. Was the single greatest concert/fest I’ve ever been to.
Early 90's was the best damn time for music. So many great bands, so many great albums, so many great concerts/big tours. Helmet opening for Primus in '92. Ozzfest. Pantera touring nonstop for years. Hell, even MTV played great music videos and had Headbangers Ball and 120 Minutes.
@@tylerperkinson1677 Listen closely to Distraction, Repetition, and Make Room. Then listen to jazz with some odd time signatures. This band fucking mixed Alt-Metal with jazz and they meant to go for hard rock n roll lmaol
The surf and skate culture and the introduction to the x games I think helped end this style of music. Blink-182, Green Day, Sublime, Pennywise, Nofx and that Agro surf culture came along and laughed at these guys.
I saw Helmet just one month ago, and saw them like 5 times sine 2010. Same for Primus. They are not dead, but probably don't sell a lot. I still love The Cure, I saw them one month ago too. xD I saw Living Colors many time in Paris too.
I've seen both Helmet and Primus recently. Both are still killing it. I nearly lost my junk in 1995 when they toured together. EPIC. Last time I saw Helmet was about 2015 and it was about the best concert I've ever seen. They were on fire.
This video is a glorious journey through my mid-teens. Love it! I remember that 'Milquetoast' by Helmet (off THE CROW soundtrack) was the first song my shitty high school band learned to play.
Fuck right! Mine too! That and Breed by Nirvana. ALso, Weezer. Another one not included, but he'd have to make this video hours and hours long to include every fine detail of the 90s... Pumpkins and grrl punk bands left out too...
>what killed 90s alt metal?
The year 2000 probably.
lmao I said the same thing when I saw the title
So many good albums came out mostly Nu Metal between 2000-2003.. Only someone born then or after would say that. Back in 2000-2001 (Until after 9/11) It was still pretty late 90's... And Nu Metal was the hottest thing going. Say what you want about Nu Metal but it kept metal in the mainstream. Drowning Pool, Disturbed, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park, P.O.D., Creed, Staind ect. All had mainstream success in 2000
You see that Conan episode?
😂🤣
Fear Factory is metal meets alternative? Love your videos man as I appreciate the deep dives, but can’t agree with you on that. Soul of a new Machine cannot be called alt metal
"John the Fisherman" is such a good song. It's the perfect fusion of aggressive playing and funky beats. But let's be honest, basically all of Primus' songs have that feel. Very underated.
John the fisherman is such an underrated song
@@gustav2398 FRIZZLE FRY my good man.
such a banger
Fuck man i have sooo many memories with Primus and Les. I saw so many times back in the day at their shows or in festival. Great great trio.
Primus Sucks, Les is God!
Heroin was pretty good at killing off things in the music scene back then.
Yea and now it kills us off before we finish the demo!
Heroin fuels the music scene; creativity and artistically it does anyway. It's always the ones who are the biggest fuck ups or junky pieces of shit that are the most amazing song writers.
That and not wearing your fucking seatbelt.
@LWKGD tell that to dave mustaine , Chris Poland, the whole jazz scene and countless other legendary artists, not just in the music scene but in general
JezBollah 667 Jonny. Raif :(
'Demanufacture' and Machine Head's 'Burn My Eyes' set the new standards for sheer guitar heaviness at that time. The quantum leap in production quality was immense, thanks to the likes of Ross Robinson and Colin Richardson.
And of course, Terry Date and Pantera for leading the way.
Burn my eyes was an unbelievably good album at the time. It was really amazing and it still is.
are there any non-altmetal bands of 91-94?
Some of the best ever drum sound engineering in on Burn My Eyes.
I'd be interested to see like a "state of the scene" video. Like, where is metal and hardcore today? What are the big trends, what's popular, who are the new players, etc. I'm unfortunately not super familiar with what's going on anymore and I think it could be an interesting video.
Me too I tend to just listen to bands that have been around for a while idc if there considered mainstream in the metal scene or not as long as there not death metal or whatever I'll give them a listen
You guys should check out the podcast called “The State of the Scene”! Not from Finn, but I think it might be along the lines of what you’re looking for
Zacry Carmichael That would be awesome
He pretty much made a video about that last week, stating that rock today is pretty much dead and bands that were formed before the 2000s pretty much still dominate the scene and headline festivals. His conclusion was its a matter of offer and demand
Yes!
Helmet - Meantime is 🔥
the best
William Maranci hell yes!!!!
@William Maranci
Helmet - Meantime but it's Katy Perry California Girls when?
The blueprint
Helmet had great song all over their discography. Meantime is my favorite album, but songs like "Wilma's Rainbow", "Smart", "Exactly What You Wanted", and "Throwing Punches" are every bit as good.
Helmet- Have you ever seen a band look more like just a bunch of regular geek looking dudes play such tight, heavy music? The early stuff almost sounds industrial machine like but that's them just playing! Highly underrated.
I was obsessed with them in the 90’s-00’s, and finally got there see them in 2014, for a Betty 20 year tour! It was awesome, and I got to take my husband and bring him back to my alt teen years :)
Reminds me of what Beavis and Butt-Head were saying lol
If you saw these guys on the streets you wouldn't even know they were cool
The CROW soundtrack the ALT-METAL sountrack
My all time favorite compilation. ruclips.net/video/ZGKTDY_CqMU/видео.html
The first soundtrack played beginning to end, much like all the music of that era.
Five bands mentioned in this video are on that soundtrack! I'd say it's at least half alt-metal
Panthers the badge
Pantera fucking autocorrect
Corrosion of Conformity was a fucking awesome band also around that time.
My mom liked deliverance and after that she got load and reload. that's how I got into rock music
I was really into Blind when it was out. Had no idea they were this amazing Hc band before that... what a whirlwind that time was
They’re still pretty awesome. Saw them last year with Eyehategod, Black Label Society, and Clutch and they put on a hell of a show!
COC, is still awesome, songs like 13 Angel's, clean my wounds,.and albatross.
If you listen carefully, they suck shit.
This is why Radio X was San Andreas' best radio station.
Radio X got me into a lot of these bands.
You mean Alice In Chains, Helmet, Faith No More
Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Danzig, Depeche Mode, L7, Living Color
Ozzy Osbourne, Jane's Addiction, Primal Scream
Sr. Sacaninha 2nd best right behind K ROSE
I liked the country station
Mothaaaaah
I've been re-discovering Type 0 Negative lately - Mike Patton and Peter Steele immediately come to mind when talking about truly underrated artists.
Type O Negative took Goth Rock to a whole new level... They made their music sexual, dark, and tragic... I remember wearing their shirts in high school and many asking me if I was type o negative blood instead of them knowing it was a band.
Beavis and Butthead was a huge part of what put me onto a lot of these bands.
Yep
They were the reason why Crowbar became one of my favorite bands.
Yea we watched it at your house
Dude, it's how I discovered Ministry, and their side project the Revolting Cocks.
Ween push the little daisies and make them come up and sugartooth sold my fortune!
Without ‘90s alternative metal, there would never be a nu metal. Honestly, I have respect for most of the bands in the alternative metal genre.
You can hear Helmet riffs in a lot of nu metal bands
So we can blame alt metal for nu metal then?
In that case, i hate alt metal even more then if its responsible for nu metal lmao
Cody I guess that means that you also have to hate alternative, punk, and metal because without them alt metal would never exist
@@dekaiaverett3265 Its not that deep bro lol It was just a joke
Culturally and musically, 91-94 was an unbelievable time period. This is not just nostalgia. Everything really did feel new, authentic and fresh. I really can't think of any time period since then that we experienced anything similiar.
That was the tail end of the Golden Age of Hip Hop, too.
@@superbherb7947 yup. 90's boom bap was THE shit.
Agree 100%, but I would add '95 too. Lots of great music came out that year.
Best era ever!
I just wonder after watching this video, what was the non-alt metal of that time because I have the idea all metal of 91-94 is mentioned....
Ministry in their '87-'93 era were one of the greatest bands that ever existed. Period.
Saw them like 5 times in that time frame. They are about to come back to Houston soon and I'll be there for that as well.
Primus is its own genre, i think les calls it psychedelic polka
I thought it was Funk Rock due to the heavy bass guitar usage.
I call it, "Crap".
I saw them Live and they were horrible.
@@garygwin1741 And I saw them live and they were AMAZING!
@@AshelinFox Les is more!
I’d say Alice In Chains and early Soundgarden were important to this sound too
My top two with AIC on top
They were grunge bands. Different video.
No not really. The Seattle thing was its own thing, and Alice and Chains was more straight up metal than Alternative.
I agree.
Grunge
Your comment on the media environment is dead on. I constantly see people my age (early 40s) and even a few years younger bitching about how there’s no good music being made anymore, it’s all in the past, etc which is completely untrue. What’s changed is that now you have to make more of an effort to seek it out. Back in 1994 it was pretty much inescapable. You couldn’t turn on the radio or MTV without having something great practically thrown in your face, because for whatever reason the media were much less risk averse. Nowadays it’s almost like it’s their job to keep you away from anything that’s challenging or interesting, which is why we’re looking for it here on RUclips or Spotify or what have you.
Abandon RUclips; go to BitChute
Respect for saying that dude. I've had many an argument about this 😂
Back then I remember magazines being so influential and I'm happy he mentionned them. I can't tell you how many hours I spent getting hyped while flipping through Spin or Rolling Stones mags. I'd even cut out band pics and artwork from mags and stick them on my wall. I have vivid memories of two eras : Smashing Pumpkins type focused publications, and Marilyn Manson & co type publications.
I think a lot of the reason why people our age complain that there’s no good music anymore is because they don’t know *how* to seek it out. To younger people platforms like Spotify are intuitive. Meanwhile a lot of people my age (I’m 44) stick with Pandora or Sirius XM because they don’t understand how to navigate Spotify. They’re accustomed to having everything spoon fed to them.
Well said. Any suggestions?
You should do a " How did the Misfits get so big?" Video.
Ps. it was nice meeting you at the show.
I second this suggestion. All I remember hearing is the bootleg tape scene of the early 80s that made them underground legends.
You too!
It was basically Metallica. Even in the Misfits book "This music leaves Stains" they basically cred Metallica. Before Metallica did those covers and introduced their fan base to the Misfits Jerry Only didn't give a shit about the Misfits royalties, because there was none. But then Metallica covered them and all of a sudden the royalties started pouring in. Jerry sued Glenn right after that. The Guns and Roses royalties helped. They were basically getting $0.10 for each song covered for each album sold. That's a lot of money when you're selling as many albums as Metallica and Guns and Roses. The story is longer than that but the Metallica covers basically created their popularity.
Right shit at the right time and Metallica
@@ThePunkRockMBA weird to think that 9 inch nails have a songwriting credit on the number 1 song in the country. Its been number 1 for months
Helmet is amazing in the meantime and betty are soo underrated
Aftertaste as well!! It’s a lot different but man, what an album
@@TimBitten ya aftertaste has some bangers too but in the meantime and betty are masterpieces even strap it on was good
@@thesilverhawaiian5024 dude i remember listening to meantime back in the day and was just blown away. Like i couldnt believe what was coming out of the speakers type of sound. Thats one, number 2, these mofo were our backyard band being from nyc so i went to see them like a week after, i was entering the underground scene at that time and age.
One of my favorites from that time
John Stanier, Helmet‘s drummer, is still very active and successful with Battles. Helmet was one of the biggest bands in the 90‘s, had the pleasure to see them live back in the days.
A band that never seems to be talked about is Corrosion of Conformity. I mean c'mon, Clean My Wounds anybody?
They’re an interesting band. They were hardcore/punk /metal crossover in the 80’s, then stoner metal in the 90’s, and now bordering on sludge and southern. Great band.
CoC is touring right now
Corrosion has their southern groove metal niche. Great band
I used to hang out with them in the 80's when they still lived in Raleigh. They definitely adapted, improvised, and evolved since then. Vote with a Bullet, Hell yes.
james staggs Deliverance had a huge impact on me.
I love how Melvins and Jesus Lizard are always left out of these lists ...
Especially Jesus Lizard
Did he really go into Noise Rock that much? I don’t feel that he did
@@Floral_Green Is that how you view Melvins and JL ? ´Noise core ... or rock, sorry ! Really ?
Girls Against Boys anyone?
Melvins... good shit
“Alternative metal” and “Nu-Metal” are very interconnected and often share the same fanbase.
Before “Nu-Metal” term was invented, bands like Korn were considered to be “Alternative Metal”
Nah bro, it was always called Nu-Metal or just garbage. It was called Nu-Metal as a slang and an insult. It was different but a step backwards musically from the stuff in the 80's and nothing new under the sun. Thats why it was called Nu Metal. It was called Alternative Metal after that by the labels when they figured out that the initial audience rock and metal heads weren't buying into it. So they pitched it to the grunge and alt-rock, punk crowd who adopted it as Alt Metal. So you can tell who you are talking to with it, if they call it Nu-Metal, its a metalhead or music enthusiast in general. If Alt-Metal is used you are talking to a grunge, basic citizen, poser, or industry exec. Thats basically it.
tw19771 you are ill
@@PeterMacLeod88 Nah just factual
tw19771 yeah well, it’s only your opinion. Not more than that.
Not to mention that term “nu-metal” appeared in magazines only in 1997. And it is sub genre of alternative metal.
@@PeterMacLeod88 No, people were calling Nu-Metal Nu-Metal as far back as 1996.If not 1995. How do I know? Because I called Korn and Limp Bizkit that at the time and my friends used it, and everybody else to describe what they were doing. The Alt-Metal label didn't take off until the late 90's when bands that would have been thrown in the catagory were reboxed as Alt-Metal because Nu-Metal by the time 1997 hit, had no favorable reputation among metalheads, but had a sizable following among the non metal crowds. So by 1997, 1998 Nu-Metal got compartmentalized to mean "Metal with rap vocals" because the press didn't want to deal with the radioactive musical waste dump that Korn and Limp Bizkit left behind. When trying to market these other bands.
Thats not opinion its a fact, and real world street experience bests google search ninja skills anyday.
Life of Agony are still great and still going strong. They are immense live, so much energy and it's so obvious how much they enjoy every show.
I'm 46 now, and I always remember bands like Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Fear Factory, even NIN (once they released the 'Broken' EP) being referred to as 'industrial', rather than 'alt-metal.'. No matter what you call it, I loved so many of those bands, and still do. I was a huge fan of punk and thrash, and also new wave and what came to be called 'alternative' (I also remember when it was called 'college rock', LOL). Industrial combined everything I loved about all those genres, and I still listen to it today. Good video; took me right back to the day too!
SerialGothQueens I would love to see a vid on Industrial. So many great bands. Everything Skinny Puppy released was phenomenal, and I’ll include The Process in that.
Yes, Industrial was rather influential on nu-metal, and actually experiened a short "moment in the sun" in the mid to late 90s thanks largely to the success of NIN.
KMFDM and lords of acid too...all of those bands you mentioned were badass
You, my friend, have great taste in music.
@@saurondp Filter is still putting out good, heavy industrial to this day. It amazes me how bands like that can have such a heavy, big ass guitar sound but still sound completely different than metal. The added electronic sounds are obviously a part of that, but even the guitar sounds entirely different regardless of how brutally heavy it is.
The Jesus Lizard! Also please do a 90s emo video
oh no please no... as much as I do love 90's emo if he made that happen you would have hordes of nerds claiming what it is "real emo"... so no thank you
@@violetagardenia I remember him doing a video on MCR and talking shit about the "real emo" douches lmao, so i don't think he'll do a video on it, or if he knows enough about it to make a video on it, as much as I'd like to see it
he’s said on instagram that he can’t stand that genre nor the majority of its internet fandom, so i don’t think it’ll happen. makes me sad, but hey, we can’t fault him for having preferences 🤷🏻♂️
Sunny Day Real Estate, The Promise Ring , Mineral , Knapsack , Christie Front Drive and Jimmy Eat World *is my favorite band*. Oh the punk-emo bands (The Get Up Kids) Plus the genre influenced everything from Paramore/Fall Out Boy to Tigers Jaw to Mom Jeans. Seems to important to not do a video on.
Yeah I suggested to do a progression of emo video. Like from Sunny Day Real Estate Hum and Bright Eyes and bands like that to the monstrosity that it is today. Most people who claim to be emo today have no idea where it came from.
Finally Alternative Metal getting some love. Alt metal gave way to Nu metal , Groove Metal ,Funk metal and modern 21st post hardcore BITW.
Still love Primus, Ministry, Tool, Fear Factory to this day and they are still among my favorite bands, all of them still putting out badass music
It's crazy to me that I only know like 5 people who remember Helmet.
Best concert of my teenage years - The Melvins opening for Tool.
I love Helmet!
Holy shit what a concert
Absolutely!
I love Helmet too! I crank the shit out of them. I don't care how old it is or how many people care about it or not. Good music stays good no matter what.
Dude i love helmet. I was literally telling someone tonight about seeing them with prong.... Great show. I feel like an old lady at 41, but i still love helmet and punk and NIN and TOOL and that kind of shit. I'll never find a soulmate.
This was a great time to be a teenager, still into a lot of this music. Just saw ministry and primus and Phil Anselmo with the illegals play a bunch of pantera songs at Slayer’s final two shows in LA 7 weeks ago
Agreed... we were the last generation before the tech boom, like kids born just before the industrial revolution, they were laborers, workers deprived of what we consider a “childhood” and thought the generation of “boomers” to follow were spoiling their kids... but I think the discoveries made during teenage years are always super integral to how you grow as a person... everything is so defining during puberty and really impacts our sense of self through our lives 💖
I saw that tour too. Best show I’ve ever seen.
Hey I saw them on slayers tour to! Back in November 2019 it was a great show
The term “College Rock” comes from these bands being played on independent college radio stations, since they weren’t being played on mainstream radio stations originally.
ITs still fucking retarded term cos there is much more than just america and its stupid ways
@@torontotonto6189 That's a really dumb criticism that has absolutely no bearing on the topic at hand.
@@torontotonto6189 that has literally no relation to any of this
Also cuz we saw them at college house parties or $3 shows at the University ballroom
not quite my friend. "College rock" dates back to the early 80s .
The first two Lollapalooza tours were epic it's hard to describe unless you were there. The late 80s early 90s was great time to be a young music fan at the time it almost felt like a revolution was afoot.
Bruce Ifer they were moments in history as important as Woodstock There and four were also great
Lucky
you gotta give more credit to gwar, they invented music after all.
Mort Mort Mort Bohab
GWAR sucks
@@billyaubin5360 youre just gay
What about 3 lil pigs by Green Jelly? How about some other obscure 90s songs... Detatchable Penis anyone?
Good call on Helmet Betty, especially the drumming. Dude was all over that piccolo snare, very groovy drumming (for lack of a better word).
There's no such thing as a better word than groovy lol
Demanufacture is still one of my favorite metal albums of all time. At the time it was the heaviest shit I had ever heard and it holds up completely to today’s stuff. I honestly never knew a drummer could be that fast and precise.
I first heard Fear Factory on the Mortal Kombat soundtrack and it changed my life... Holy shit was Demanufacture heavy beyond heavy!!!!! Raymond Herrera, what a fucking banger of a drummer!
Yeah demanufacture was a game changer for sure
@@BeatsAndMeats Exactly the same for me, Zero Signal is still my favorite song of theirs. Come to think of it, that was a pretty good soundtrack. Type O, Napalm Death, KMFDM, GZR...good shit.
Hell yeah, Demanufacture is, was, and will always the shit! Obsolete is awesome too, fear factory made great music in general.
@@Ataraxia462 great soundtrack even the other non metal tracks were good too
La Sexorcisto is amazing. The guitar, bass, and drums are a master class in what tightness sounds like. I’ve played a lot of music in my time, but I’ve always said, if I could ever do anything I would want to be Ivan De Prume on that album.
Absolutely classic album
Rollins band: weight
Gwar: America must be destroyed
Rollins Band was the soundtrack for my deployment in Iraq in 05-06.
Also, Helmet, Quicksand, Failure, Buzzoven, Crowbar, Prong, etc. I could go on. The early 90's was a treasure trove of killer music.
Type O Negative will be the winner in the long run. Standing there with Slayer and Metallica. That music is timeless in its perfection of gothic vibe and metal sound. Its going nowhere but back into the machine to be reinterpreted. GWAR was easily the most fun band of the 90's, and went very strong into the 2000's. I saw them in '04 and they were just killing it in front of a packed house of University kids and hardcore drug addicts.
Type O Neg is timeless. No one will ever replace them or come close to their level in their genre. Goth kings.
saw Gwar twice in Worcester MA, best shows I've been too.
Good pick. Myself I'd say Fear Factory and Helmet are the champions and will be remembered fondly for a long time. But I like your pick too and could live with that
@@FinalBaton even im pretty confident that FF and Helmet (Ifrekinluv'emafreakinlot) inspired more kids to make music, Type O Negative are just... I dont have the words to descirbe their greatness! I can only compare them to the great german writes Mann and Hesse: so different, deep and mystical and at the same time playful, roguish even lewd (😉) but sooooo fucking relatable! Their use of por culture was awesome! And their music and sound are just fuckn genius. One of the best bands ever!
We were spoiled rotten back then. We had all kinds of great grunge, hardcore, thrash, death, stoner, shoegaze, post-hardcore, etc.TON certainly earned their place, but plenty of other bands were just as influential.
I thought the B 52's were more part of that EARLY 80's "New Wave" movement that also included Devo, Talking Heads, The Knack, Oingo Boingo, The Dickies, Tubeway Army, The Police, Blondie etcetera. THEIR first album came out in 1979 and their first hit song was Rock Lobster in 1980.
pheonix 5 PiL, Modern English, Gary Numan also
@@edwardwilson7079 Well, Tubeway Army was Gary Numan.
pheonix 5 yep. I failed lol
to be fair the B-52s had there 1st run in the early 80s with original guitarist and early AIDS casualty Ricky Wilson. After he died in 85 the band was kind of defunct for awhile till they regrouped and had more of a mainstream sound than in previous records with Cosmic Thing
The Knack? I don't think so!
What's the time stamp when he talks about Alice In Chains? crickets . . .
Dude legit mentions nirvana but not Alice In Chains
dr. K exactly just shows how underrated they are. It’s ironic because Layne influenced most of these peoples favorite bands.
@@nonameman7114 i think the reason why is that AIC is seen as the most pure example of what grunge, “should be” to music elitists, which ignores their metal elements. Personally i think the prime “grunge” example should be soundgarden but meh.
@@nonameman7114 he mentions nirvana only in passing.
oooh good call!! such an influential band
1988 ministry (an industrial band) made an album called the mind is a terrible thing to taste great album but ministry was never an alt metal band 😂😂😂
@Charles Hall Jr.
I do love prong and Tommy victor of prong played with ministry for a few years his riffs are great
The "Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste" came out in 1990 or there-a-bouts. Perhaps you are thinking about "The Land of Rape and Honey" which came out in '88. I know because I saw Ministry in '88 and '90, both times at the Cameo in Miami.
"Ministry went from new wave to industrial to industrial metal to industrial thrash metal." ....to cringy Antifa soy boy cuck metal.
@@solinvictus39 they're playing with slayer and primus this year. Gonna be amazing
@ⅰи∂ㄩㄅ360 like early 80s new wave too . bought thier first album for 75 cent and felt ripped off god it sucked
Crowbar mention...next vid is NOLA Sludge. Fingers crossed
Love me some Crowbar and Acid Bath. Acid Bath ain't sludge, but I grew up in new orleans when they were around.
Yeah Man- I love that southern, acid, sludge....Crowbar, Down, COC....tons of amazing riffage!
Acid Bath is literally the definition of Sludge. They were the biggest band in the movement next to EHG.
@@ScottRadkeMusic CoC is stoner rock/metal.
There's a great Vice webseries about NOLA Sludge that is actually pretty great.
Alt-anything was cool. Im 45yrs old. heard a song on Spotify that took me back, "high" by Jimmy's chicken shack. I agree with you on helmet, rollins was my skateboarding music.😁
I saw Jimmy's chicken shack so many times! it seemed like they were always opening up for whoever I was there to see . Miss the good old days when music was music!
"High" is such a good song!
Idk Emo was alt." Alt" is pretty obtuse, broad terminology.
@Choose A Better Name the urge had some classics!
Saw them live 98
Primus is actually one of the most interesting bands ever imo. You should do a whole video on them! Like everything about them is so unique and interesting: sound, vocals, music videos, the bass... les is an amazing bass player! I would love a video on this band
The thing that blows my mind most about Primus, are the incredibly slim odds that those 3 freakshow musicians somehow all managed to end up in the same band. I think most musicians that are even fractionaly so unique generally end up going their whole lives without ever playing in a band that is actually a good fit for them.
@@bushleague3472 At one point, Primus made more money on tour than Michael Jackson the same year. For music of this type that is an amazing and inspiring fact.
@@BluesyVlogs The 90's were a crazy ride for music. So much different, strange shit became hugely popular.
I graduated high school in 93’, and yes, this was easily the most exciting time in heavy music. There really was an “anything goes” mentality. Also, it was ok to like many different styles of music. You weren’t stuffed in a box as a music fan during this time period. You were able to like anything.
The riffs in this genre (and nu metal) were crazy. They were heavy, angry, and made your hands curl up into fists.
I'd say that Nu metal is a large branch of Alternative Metal. But agree about the riffs. Stompy riffs and really crunchy bass heavy tones
La Sexorcisto is one of my top ten favorite albums, ever. I’ve listened to it for at least twenty-five years...love it. I still listen to Helmet and Rage as well, but that White Zombie album...it just doesn’t get boring.
La Sexorcisto is a masterpiece. Its great around Halloween time too.
Rob zombie is an al jourgensen rip off.
Astro creep is even better imo
La sexorcisto is underrated IMO. Very danceable groove metal which is rare.
Astrocreep is my #1 all time favourite album to smash to.
Both Primus and Helmet had their own run of absolutely fantastic albums. Frizzle Fry, Sailing The Seas Of Cheese, and Pork Soda from Primus are masterpieces, and Meantime, Betty, and Aftertaste by Helmet are three of the best albums of the 90s. Helmet is criminally underrated, and I can't recommend them enough. Page Hamilton's guitar tone hits you like a Mack truck, and "Driving Nowhere" is one of the strongest songs of the decade.
Driving Nowhere's lyrics (and Page's lyrics in general) are SO smart and thought-provoking. Helmet's music always challenges me, which is why I love them so much.
Proof in that even Winona Ryder knew how good Helmet was. Dated Page Hamilton for many years. After all, she was an indie darling...
Remember when Maynard from Tool was in a Funk Metal before Tool? So weird kinda
Not as weird as Incubus being funk metal before they got big
Or his stint in Green Jelly
@@lloydchristmas6237 LITTLE PIG LITTLE PIG LET ME IN!
@@poopinfruz9771 NOT BY THE HAIR OF MY CHINNY CHIN CHIN
Green Jello wasn't funk metal, though. They were more like, what I would call, a "joke band." GWAR would also fit this category.
Finn...why you don't make red jackets or hoodies...
Living in the NW, reds not really on the color pallet here, would be my guess.
Fun fact no one asked for: Original Danzig guitarist John Christ is my band leader! Super cool guy.
No way lol.
Band leader what do you mean?
Huuuuuuuuge Danzig fan and the first line up with John is by far my favorite is why I ask ...
Now you gotta link this project
Isn't he teaching music at some college in Maryland now?
I’m 22 and I got into Danzig and fear factory and it’s opened my world to a whole spur of music that I couldn’t even begin to jot down. I whole heartedly agree that the metal that came out of those scenes during that era still holds up. all of my friends love listening to all of those bands. Ironically I think most people in my generation who listen to this kind of stuff see alt metal and nu metal as basically the same thing we just love it all and listen to it in the same vain... vein?.....vane??...whatever. But yeah Danny boy, Type O Negative, and Rollins Band, were all very formative bands for my youth and are still constantly played for me.
It's to your generation what Led Zepp, Jimi, Doors, Sabbath, Stones, Floyd, etcetcetc was to my generation. It'll happen again, the old bands are dying out, the scene is getting stale, something will grow of its ashes.
"Nevermind" was released in 1991, like a week apart from the "Black album". Not in 1992. But nevertheless, I was a pre teen at the time remember all those bands and MTV programs. That was a great time for innovative music and musicians
yeah was gonna say this Nirvana Nevermind was Sept. 1991
We had a (90 minute probably) tape with Black Album and Nevermind
I always loved Helmet. It's funny, I never saw them as alternative metal, even though they emerged at this time. To me, they always have been more of a punk or hardcore band and the first time I heard them I thought: Great, those guys also like Fugazi.
ratatatuff helmet maybe most talented band of the era
Helmet were basically post-punk/art rock guys who went metal. They were one of the best bands back then.
Never saw Helmet as metal at all, they were heavy post hardcore, ala Quicksand, with whom I saw them play with several times in the 90s. Also ties to noise (former Am Rep band after all) and grunge. I think they opened for Nirvana a couple times, and that heavy drop D guitar was used by Nirvana and Soundgarden, among others, at times. Also had more of a hardcore look. Short hair at a time when everyone had long hair.
HELL YEAH!!!
@@cemeteryindustrialcomplex3486 eh not really
You don't like The Cure? For shame!
Yeah the slander towards them and REM was a shock
Finn about to catch that HATE like he did for not liking Mr. Jones by Counting Crows
@@USHARDY he comes of as an elitist sometimes🤣🤣
Am i not allowed to ever say i dont like something?
@@ThePunkRockMBA You are, you just happen to be wrong this time ;)
The early 90s were such an awesome time to be a kid. Picking up CDs and Magic cards at the mall, then rocking out til 3am.
This is by far my favorite era of music. I try not to be that old guy stuck in the past but I do still listen to a lot of these bands fairly regularly. I think the real peak of these bands was in 1994. I remember Woodstock '94 being a huge deal especially for Nine Inch Nails who's performance while covered in mud still gets talked about today. It was also soundtracks to movies like The Crow that turned me on to some of these bands. But that was also right around the time Green Day and Nu-Metal started emerging like you said. Clutch is another good example of one of these bands that still has a huge fan base today. I also think Fear Factory is super underrated for their influence on metal. I could go on and on but great video as always! Perhaps a "What killed Groove Metal" video next?
Best era.
I think we revolve heavily around the music we came up to and that's just how it is. Now, if you hate every form of new music there is, then you might be a grumpy old man yes...
What about a "Rammstein - How did they get so big?" ... Greetings from Germany
That would be amazing!
hallo aus den vereinigten staaten! :D
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Deftones became kind of alt-metal with White Pony.
Also bands like Dillinger Escape Plan and Mastodon were influenced by alt-metal. Especially Neurosis which could be labeled as 90s alt-metal.
I always looked at Deftones as more of an influence to Nu Metal than an actual Nu metal band. From the first album they kind of had like a hardcore thing going on and they would tour with Bad Brains and on The Warped Tour.
Today is the Day basically became Mastadon so it makes sense
No Deftones did not. That's only a thing said by people who thought it was not cool to like Nu metal because it was mainstream (Nu metal was hated big time by most metal fans who wanted to seem like real fans of the genre around that time) and wanted to like the Deftones. After White pony the band redid the song Back to school so they could have rap style vocals on, now that's very nu metal.
@@MrStephen182 They were forced to include that song on the reissue by their label. It was not nu metal at all.
THATS WHERE IVE HEARD THE NAME THANK YOU! It sounded familiar
Can never go wrong with the Astro Creep!! It was the Hysteria of the 1990's, over produced but still sounds amazing to this day.
Can you make a vid on the NOLA 90s sludge scene
T M no sludge bands from new orleans like crowbar, eyehategod, and Acidbath
Bryer Dawsey Nola isn’t a big enough scene for a full video of sludge/doom to me. I could see if you included bands from other regions like grief, sleep, burning witch or dystopia etc... you could pad it out for a decent video
This channel focuses on scenes that were commercially viable. The NOLA scene never was.
YYAASS!!
EYEHATEGOD!
I first heard a few of these bands, Helmet, Living Color etc, on GTA San Andreas and I absolutely adored what I was hearing.
Christ-Fire Living Colour Stain is amazing.
First heard on gta? F*@$ I'm old
Stain is a fantastic album.
I was fourteen when GTA San Andreas came out and I was born one year before the time period in which the game is set.
MTV shifting focus from music to regular tv shows probably had a lot to do with it.
I kind of agree with that a little bit. MTV was all about the music until the mid 90s. The "reality shows" didn't start becoming more prevalent on MTV until about 1998 from what I remember (which might not be a coincidence since that was when the boy bands and Britney Spears kind of music became huge). But I also agree with the video that it was the shift in musical taste to bands like Green Day, 311, Korn, Offspring, Silverchair, Marilyn Manson, etc. that had an impact.
89-94 will always be my favourite time for pop culture and music. SO many historic moments in music and cinema like KoRn, RATM, Nirvana, Green Day, Resevoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction etc etc
I just saw Gwar last night. Still the most fun show you could witness.
Mattie Slave I’ve seen em twice with Brockie, three times with Bishop.
How is it without Dave? I heard mike has been sick, is he on stage?
Joseph Reynolds Well without Dave the personality and humor isn’t what it used to be, but they do a fine job at it anyhow. If Mike was sick, he’s fine now. All of the band sounds great. The stage show is funny and violent as ever. Some rarities on the setlist too.
I've seen Dave's GWAR 6 times. Fucking awesome.
Christhegopher94 great to hear, thanks a lot man.
Demanufacture is one of my all time favourite albums and the best album Fear Factory made.
I have to say Archetype was their best album.
I read they had a ton of issues recording it. They kept working it, replaying, re recording. It wasn't put out until they felt it was perfect. Probably explains why it's such a polished masterpiece. :)
Demanufacture...Remember when I bought the CD and when I listened to it completely...I was like: I don't like this album its quite heavier. And left it there. Then like a week or 2, listened to it again, and again. And it grew on me, their sound was so unique, that it took me by surprise. Love It !!!
Omg me too. They're rad.
The mix of this album is overstanding, still sounds fresh through these years
I'd never heard Rage against the Machine being described as post hardcore before.
zack was in a hardcore band called inside out.
It’s because they aren’t
@@robertcullen7042 zack was
me neither i'd always classify them as rap metal but if you listen to the self titled you can honestly hear some post-hardcore dynamics in there, listen with an open ear it's def there. but i agree it was weird to see him casually lump RATM in as a post-hardcore group
CJ NICKOLAS I can see that with Settle for nothing, but most of the album is funky.
The Cure, Joy Division, and all that other stuff was my favorite kind of music from the 80s :'c
The smiths?
late 90's NIN & Mnason brought me to the Goth scene in my late teens. A lotta girls were into it and I lived a stone's throw from the gothiest place on Earth- Montreal. LOL Or... is/was London more Goth? So as Nu-metal emerged, I submerged into Cure, Depeche, Portishead, bauhaus, etc... I wouldn't have even know about Bauhaus if it wasn't for Goth Talk on SNL. GAWD Molly SHannon looked howt as a goth chik.
Oh my god you finally made a video about all of my dad’s favorite bands
We go see Primus every summer at Marymoor
hahaha fuck, this comment makes me feel old haha.
Lol! I was a about to write the same comment... I felt like the way I used to think of Led Zeppelin back in the 90s
@@joseangelmontoya8623 HAHA, the exact same feeling! urgh! at least we were there to see it hahahaha
@@pliersbittaker at least we can be the next generation "cool" dads!! Lol
@@joseangelmontoya8623 Ugh. Already got that title from my 9 year old's friends. Overheard them say it sooo many times. And I'm just being me. Makes me smile.
8:05 1992?? Nirvana’s Nevermind came out in 1991, the same as the Black Album. Those are 2 albums and years everyone (should) knows. Same year.
Do you know how bummed out people were when the Black Album came out? I seen metalheads crying in the hallways at the high school! And during that tour they played two or three songs off the album people were not happy it was Enter Sandman of wolf and man and something else I can't remember I was too busy avoiding getting my ass kicked!
I was only 11/12yrs old 91/92. Just discovering Rock, Metal..Back album was Metallica's debut record for all I cared..No older bro/friend setting the record straight on such matters...I literally reversed their catalog -In Order - nxt couple yrs Twas all good till Reload..
Let me guess.. You are one of those "I heard Them first!" People.. Nirvana didn't get country wide mainstream coverage until beginning of January 1992. That's when Sears started selling out of red flannel shirts,lol.
@@bonnyheather I Saw Alice in Chains Get booed off stage! Opening up for Slayer Anthrax and Megadeth. I seen Soundgarden badmotorfinger open up for Metallica and yeah nobody knew who these people were!
I'm just concerned that you're about to send Alex Trebek back to the 5th dimension, dude.
I love the “post hard core” stuff more today than I used to. Some really incredible avant-garde stuff out of that era. Fugazi, Orange 9mm among my faves.
My favorite era of metal/hard rock is easily the first half of the 90s. There was something for everybody the first half of the 90s. Guns n Roses, Metallica, Nirvana, RATM, Pantera, White Zombie, Alice In Chains, Ministry, Type-0-Negative, NIN, Aerosmith made a comeback , Fear Factory, Sepultura , Machine Head, Soundgarden , COC, Body Count, Megadeth, Slayer, Pearl Jam, Danzig, Marilyn Manson.....what a time for rock music.
Even rhcp was good then lol
@@knightsonofjacklol yep that’s actually back when I would watch the music video if it came on MTV or listen to it on the radio. I think they’re a very talented band, but man the last 20 years I just have not care for their newer stuff.
Nevermind was 91 not 92
It blew up(Nuclear) in 92 though.
@@blesner Yup. Took the #1 spot from Micheal Jackson January 1992. It was huge in the scene in late 91, but 92 it took over everywhere.
I knew that was coming
Dont call his easy mistakes out they will circlejerk you. I had a whole list of them in the metalcore video
@@blesner Nah, it blew up in Sept ´91
I feel like Alt MEtal laid so much of the foundations for Nu Metal that a ton of Nu Metal bands would have been labelled Alt Metal if they were around five years earlier. I mean is Static X really such a departure from White Zombie for example?
a lot of nu metal bands are labeled as Alt metal
Yes it is. The nu metal was not nearly as good as what came earlier. Look at the lyrical content and the attitude beyond the fact that nu metal was musically stagnant upon inception. There are so many nuances to a band like White Zombie that later bands clearly lacked.
Nu metal to me is almost a meaningless term now. So many people use it to as a way to trash bad alt-metal bands.
i think this movement is so underrated. im so happy someone finally noted it
I hate how Fear Factory don’t get enough credit, they aren’t even my favourite band
Wtf? Funk metal was not cringe. I fuckn loved it lol. Check out Mr. Bungle - Mr. Nice Guy.
Kyuss ?
Frosty Wasp kyuss is not funk metal. It’s stoner rock. Also one of my favourite bands
Bungle goes beyond everything to be honest.
Recently been to see Living Colour on the Vivid 30th anniversary tour. Extremely good!
Infectious Grooves!!!!
Quicksand is a great band that should be mentioned here.
Alice in Chains were the best Alt Metal band. They had riffs, solos, lyrics, and Layne Staley.
Michael Czesnozki Certainly the best of the Seattle bands, even though they got the least attention out of the big 4.
AiC was like a bridge between the metal and grunge scenes. They'd fit on pretty much any bill without question.
Better than Leatherface? Better than Jawbreaker? Edit: or even better than The Melvins?
AIC and Soundgarden were the two "metal" grunge bands.
I've come to the conclusion AIC is the best driving music
Pantera Cowboys From Hell and Vulgar Display of Power were also huge albums - although they are considered more metal and not alternative at all - they were still a new form of alternative styled metal. If you're into guitar oriented alt metal definitely go towards Helmet and Prong. You also failed to mention Alice in Chains - a HUGE alt/grunge metal band. Therapy? also another great band.
The Crow Soundtrack! A pretty good sampling of really good bands and music from around that time.
We didn't call it "Alt-Metal" and most of those bands started out pre 90s.
It's always a good idea to comment without watching...
Yeah....I don't remember it being called Alt-metal at the time. I think that was a term used later on; as I recall it was just all part of the 'alternative rock'....which is also a terrible name.
@@prettynoose8497 A well I remember bands like Korn being called "Spooky-core"... things change over time.
in the words of a much wiser man than me: "living colour is my favorite black metal band"
Type o was amazing, shame Pete passed away but the older I get the longer I wait for a band to come even close to that sound, it never happens.
Never died, I’m still jamming the ‘90s.
@Sean Fisher I LOVE rock but the new shit on the radio is unbelievably fucking bad,the dudes literally sound like whining women and the lyrics match it.
@Sean Fisher *King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard*
Slipknot there new album was number one for a couple weeks
I'm pretty happy I grew up in the 90s, I was able to experience just about every type of music show growing up.
I saw ministry and primus just the other day haha best concert of my life so far
Living colour are my favourite black metal band
Well, thats great
I wonder if they've burned any churches, as black metal bands are wont to do...
@@hunterhill1013 whoooooooosh....
That joke is as old as the band itself.
If you haven't already, you should do a video on Primus. Definitely not a band for everyone, but so genius, talented and underrated.
Always happy when Type O get’s a shout out. I can’t help being a Pete Steele fan 💚🖤💚🖤
Seemed like everything faded out in the 90's. Tthe first half of the decade was awesome, but I think corporate formulaism took over the second half of the decade & set the precedent from then till now. Kinda why Woodstock '99 got set on fire.
FCC act of '96, boy bands on the covers of RS and Spin... in 1996, SNL had every single Republican candidate on as a host. RATM with Forbes. WTH? God what a wierd decade!
@@nodrogdivad yup, that definitely fucked hip-hop up too. Everyone blames the Telcommunications Act of 96.
man it's somehow weird to me that GTA San Andreas introduced me to Alt-Rock and Alt-Metal for a kid like me back then where I find shit for myself, especially when I was still an edgy kid 5-6 years ago. Radio X's Helmet, Depeche Mode, Faith No More, Living Colour, Danzig, RATM, Sound Garden, Alice In Chains, Stone Temple Pilots... especially Helmet's Unsung, we used to jam with that back in highschool 3times a week on my new thin acoustic that has pickups innit and a shit drums set. damn
Road Rash on 3DO and then PS1 introduced me to several of my favorite bands of all time: Swervedriver, Therapy?, and especially Paw
Thanks for mentioning Helmet, I feel like they don't enough credit.
Just discovered this channel recently, and I must say - LOVE IT! This video in particular spoke to me. I was born in the late '70's and became interested in music around this time (middle school age-ish). Most, if not all, of these bands I still listed to and have a wicked soft spot for. Keep up the great content.
Thank you!
@@ThePunkRockMBA You are welcome!!
I think Type O Negative is probably one of the most underrated bands of all time. I can't believe that it was just lumped into a group of absolutely inferior bands. Type O Negative is such a solid band that they deserve their own video.
Sounded to me like he dissed TON. Said something about a "cult band with one hit album" while showing live footage of the band, then listed all his "legends" without mentioning Peter Steele, while Pete's face is onscreen.
No
@@verargert3848no dude he is showing Pete that whole time because Pete is a legend
Fear Factory was AWSOME. Demanufacture and Obsolete were such great albums.
I saw them at Ozzfest in Minneapolis in ‘97. Show also had Marilyn Manson, Pantera, PM5K, of course Ozzy, and the Black Sabbath reunion.
Was the single greatest concert/fest I’ve ever been to.
Early 90's was the best damn time for music. So many great bands, so many great albums, so many great concerts/big tours. Helmet opening for Primus in '92. Ozzfest. Pantera touring nonstop for years. Hell, even MTV played great music videos and had Headbangers Ball and 120 Minutes.
Helmet is so fucking awesome. I love angry jazz musicians
Lmfao were they originally jazz musicians?
tyler perkinson Yeah. Page Hamilton is a jazz guitarist and the music definitely takes cues from jazz
@@tylerperkinson1677 Listen closely to Distraction, Repetition, and Make Room. Then listen to jazz with some odd time signatures. This band fucking mixed Alt-Metal with jazz and they meant to go for hard rock n roll lmaol
Frosty Wasp you want some truly wild time signature shit listen to Vaccination, Better, and Insatiable
Helmet -Amen. So good.
The surf and skate culture and the introduction to the x games I think helped end this style of music. Blink-182, Green Day, Sublime, Pennywise, Nofx and that Agro surf culture came along and laughed at these guys.
I saw Helmet just one month ago, and saw them like 5 times sine 2010.
Same for Primus.
They are not dead, but probably don't sell a lot.
I still love The Cure, I saw them one month ago too. xD
I saw Living Colors many time in Paris too.
I've seen both Helmet and Primus recently. Both are still killing it. I nearly lost my junk in 1995 when they toured together. EPIC. Last time I saw Helmet was about 2015 and it was about the best concert I've ever seen. They were on fire.
This video is a glorious journey through my mid-teens. Love it!
I remember that 'Milquetoast' by Helmet (off THE CROW soundtrack) was the first song my shitty high school band learned to play.
Fuck right! Mine too! That and Breed by Nirvana. ALso, Weezer. Another one not included, but he'd have to make this video hours and hours long to include every fine detail of the 90s... Pumpkins and grrl punk bands left out too...