Nu Metal didn't start with KORN...
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- Originally formed in 1993, Korn have and most likely always will be cited as the first Nu-Metal band with the very first Nu-Metal album. That would be their debut record in 1994, self-titled. The record was a commercial success and also helped to launch the career of one Ross Robinson. An American record producer that is often nick-named the godfather of nu-metal.
Robison went on to work with the likes of Slipknot, Deftones, Sepultura and Limp Bizkit amongst others. If not for Korn though, we may never have even heard of him. Korn though wasn’t exactly ground zero for what we now know as Nu-Metal. Maybe from a commercial stand-point of course but it goes much deeper than that and in this video we’re going to explore the True Roots of Nu Metal.
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Bro, I can't believe you didn't mention the judgment night soundtrack 😮
Nice
Still a great sounddtrack.
Onyx song on that album makes me wish they were mentioned, in terms of cross over success with Slam.
@@jasonwhite4167 Nice.
The "guy" wearing the Slayer shirt in the video was Rick Rubin
Yeah I was wondering if he said that sarcastically or he didnt catch that it was rick rubin
Literally just at the right time, I was just thinking to myself, “I wonder what music documentary I should listen to while at work”
Haha yep same👍🤘
😂doing the same and it’s like 7am
We wonder what would have been the right time figuratively.
Biohazards urban discipline also was monumental to the influence of nu metal. No doubt for sure Mr Bungle was a huge catalyst for some of those earlier bands, even korn and slipknot mentioned them being some of the biggest influence
Excellent Nu Metal video again. Surprised no Pantera and Sepultura were mentioned. I know Sepultura took influence from Korn to do the Roots album. But Chaos AD, also had a part to play in leading up to Nu Metal. And Pantera's groove is also an influence into the groove style riffs in Nu Metal.Can't wait to see some follow up Nu Metal Videos. Maybe even focusing on the newer bands coming out now incorporating Nu Metal influences.
Sepultura were out way before nu metal and don't need to be in the category regardless of a later album take influence from the genre. Pantera like sepultura were out before and kept to metal.
@@chrismunoz7859he wasnt saying pantera was nu metal. Hes saying nu metal was influenced by pantera. You’re not too bright are you?
Sepultura was mentioned in the first two minutes.
Korn took influence from Sepulturas roots album but sepulturas older albums are far from groove or nu metal
Sepultura were death/thrash that started in 1984. Chaos A.D. was when their sound started to change...the 4 albums prior were very fast and heavy...
Deftones doing a cover of Helmet's "Sinatra" from Strap it On is enough proof that the album did influence one of the pillar bands of nu metal. The drop tuned stacatto riffs from Meantime were also a huge influence!
Great vid like always, but you can't be talking about rap and metal/rock fusion without mentioning Biohazard, especially their seminal 1992 record Urban Discipline. The way they brought everything together had never been done so seemlessly before. Also, the sountrack for Judgement Night from 1993 featuring all rock/hip hop collabs, most notably Just Another Victim with Helmet and House of Pain and Judgement Night with Onyx and Biohazard, definately deserves a mention.
Was wondering how Biohazard were missed. Sadly I sold the Judgement Night soundtrack years ago, Just Another Victim was the standout to me.
Without Faith No More, Mike Patton in general really, we wouldn't have nu metal or a few of these bands.
Seems that nu metal is making a comeback the second or third time around.
Nu Metal has been making it's biggest comeback since the 2000's!
Nu Metal certainly is experiencing a resurgence but it's still gonna take a lot before it takes over Mainstream rock radio.
what i wouldn't give to see the genre take over the radio and replace Imagine Dragons and other glorified electronic pop bands who are labelled as ''rock''.
The Urban Dance Squad definitely deserve a mention - late 80s band from Holland who fused live distorted guitars, rapping & turntablism.... tracks like Fastlane with cameos from Flea/Rollins in the video....who also heavily influenced tom morello to start RATM.
Judgement Night OST should be in this video as it influenced the NuMetal scene.
I also think Living Colour need to get some credit for forging the way into NuMetal...... they were basically doing NuMetal before Korn, both albums Vivid & Times Up have elements of NuMetal - but Stain is when they really went to town..... but sadly never get credit for how groundbreaking they were/are.
I heard UDS on the radio about a year ago (in Belgium). I was flabbergasted lol
Urban Dance Squad and Senser
Godflesh influenced a lot of the nu metal sounds .
Especially on songs of love and hate. Pretty insane
@@ravereikoThat came out when Nu metal was already a thing. Streetcleaner and Pure both have plenty of hip hop beats if you listen carefully.
Absolutely
JUDGEMENT NIGHT SOUNDTRACK!!!
Love Body Count thank you for shouting them out!!
With references to the fusion of Rap and Metal I have to mention the "Judgment Night" OST which was an absolute gamechanger back in the 90s👌
Judge-Ment-NIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!
I know you heard that in your head.
@@chrisschindler7634 yes!!!"Another Body Murdered" with my comment😉😅
Underrated nu metal pioneer Urban Dance Squad formed in 1986..
Shootyz groove were doing it( rap/metal fusion) all the way back in the late 80’s.
Fear Factory and Korn actually have a link between them, since Ross Robinson had worked with Fear Factory and used that tape (that was later released as Concrete) to find bands to work with. As far as I know, Korn really liked what they heard and thus, Robinson got the job to produce Korn's self-titled.
Love the fact that this documentary finally gives props to Mr Bungle as well, since it's very clear that they had a huge impact on the nu-metal scene. The guys of Korn actually call the chord they use on "Blind" as the "Mr Bungle chord". (from the main riff of My Ass is On FIre)
The Tritonus, interval of the devil, forbidden in the middle ages, famously used by Black Sabbath.
The main riff of "Blind" is almost identical to Fear Factory's "Scapegoat"
The first Korn song I heard was "Shoots and Ladders", which I thought was brilliant!
What a great documentary! Born in 1986, I was 12 when mu parents bought me Follow the Leader on tape. Proud to say that besides Run DMC & Public Enemy, I have the 99% of the records you pointed out in my collection.
Amazin'!!!
Helmet was so influential. Are you kidding me? Great video though!
I remember Buzz Osborne from Melvins once actually said that all nu metal bands sounded to him like Helmet.
Suicidal tendencies had a lot of influence on the nu metal and also the hardcore punk scene
Yes, they are absoulutely number one band he forgot to mention. Their song Institutionalized was played in 1982 and released in 1983 and I definitely see it as the first fusion of metal and rap. It influenced Limp Bizkit, who cited some lyrics in the song Stuck of their first album and Body Count, who made a full cover.
Mike Muir was rapping in Institutionalized, Join the Army, Trip At the Brain et Go N Breaking long before it became trendy
No one from suicidal tendencies etc scene is or was interested in Nu Metal
*L M F A O*
@@aotctd no one said Suicidal were nu metal, just they were rapping long before it became a trent. Read carefully
People be sleeping on Body Count still to this day.
Black Hoodie slams as hard as anything then or now.
Last album is LIT!! Punching hard
I’ve been enjoying the nu-metal side of RUclips past couple weeks and I got into the memes, accidentally triggered one of my favorite RUclipsrs to have an existential crisis about their nu-metal content and they showed my comments in their video..which triggered more funny videos from other RUclipsrs about his existential crisis.
Now you release this documentary and it’s great.
So I just gotta say, this was the chefs kiss for my nu-metal themed entertainment recently.
Keep up the good work
I f**kin love ur vids bro 🤟🏿
So it was your comment Finn posted on those videos. Nice. You nearly broke poor Finn😅
Check out Vai - Pigs. It is the blue print for Korn.
Public enemy with slayer, song called channel zero, cool song
Public Enemy with Anthrax was really great too
I think Godflesh & Swans deserved to be at least mentioned here. Celtic Frost had a track called 'One in their Pride' that was obviously heavily influenced by Run Dmc. And Mick Harris, originally founding drummer of Napalm Death, has had a career of experimenting with Hip hop, dub, industrial, and more since leaving Napalm, best example Scorn.
This channel is amazing, great guy, great delivery on quality information
The “guy wearing the slayer shirt” is actually Rick Rubin himself, isn’t it ?
I think it is yes! I actually had no idea until someone else mentioned it. I'm used to Rick looking old with a huge white beard haha
So glad I found your channel! Looking forward to future vids… especially more about industrial and goth bands. Great work, keep it up!!
Thank you for a great video. Well written, well read, high quality all around. Will be watching more!
After watching this I would love to see more genre's covered. I would love a Cypress Hill or a Wu-Tang Clan doc. Very good info and research done in this video thank you!
I’m absolutely loving these videos. As a kid I would watch vh1 classic and this reminds me so much of that but better! Really like the parts when you show what else was going on in what ever year the song/video was releasing to create a general idea of the times. Keep up the great work!
Excellent work my man! Loved the history lesson
I got chills watching this it's like watching a video of all my musical influences that led me to where I am now. Pretty inspiring. Thank you!
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Pretty cool that you can hear them in the intro!
Some really interesting takes here, nice video.
Just found your channel, excellent work. Subbed because your delivery is spot on. Great work
Glad I wasnt the only one xD
also in a shallow kinda way the host is cute ngl.
In a sense you're right; RATM's first 1991 album wasn't commercially released but self released, luckily only chronology matters to me and not commerciality so RATM did it first... period.
But Rage were influenced by bands like Urban Dance Squad... So...........
@@music4u550 Indeed; Any art medium or style is a chicken and the egg dilemma - art begets influence / influence begets art.
Great video, many thanks.
Took me far longer than 30:46 to get through this as I kept going off and watching videos of the songs mentioned.
Same here. Especially when I hear the snippet of one of those songs I remember but completely forgot about and had to add to my library.
Fear Factory definitely is not talked about enough when it comes to nu-metal and being an influence on the genre and in metal music in general especially metalcore
They felt they were big inspiration to nu-metal and ended up making mediocre nu-metal from the quasi-death metal/industrial metal fusion they created. I don't thinkt hey were that big influence on nu-metal, but they're the godfathers of modern metalcore/djent and the prog metal scene similiar to that stuff.
Damn solid and entertaining documentary. Much appreciated, cheers
The effort you would of had to have gone too to make this video is unimaginable some crazy good bands there love your work
Great video dude!!
Thats pretty cool that primus seems to have had some early influence. Not to mention Larry Lelonde was a huge influence on death metal (maybe even possibly created).
Great video as usual but I was surprised you didn't mention the Judgement Night soundtrack. Maybe we can look forward to a video on popular movie soundtracks in the future?
This was a great video! -------SHOW MUSICS ROOTS!
I wonder, is there any possibility that the desert rock scene (Kyuss, Sleep, Clutch, etc) evolving in the same years in California contributed to bring a heavier, more distorted sound to the alternative rock/metal forming the basis of nu-metal?
Maybe a little... but Desert Rock bands (Kyuss, FuManchu, Goatsnake, Masters of Reality, Mondo Generator, Nebula, etc..) didn't have the "chugga, chugga" crunchy palm-muted tones that NuMetal bands shared with thrash/death metal before it.
Clutch is from Maryland - originally mixing faster hardcore sounds with a West Virginia/Southern Rock/Blues style... leaning more groove/bluesy as they progressed. "Karma to Burn" is a great band from the same area to check out, if you like Clutch.
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The video is very cool. It's basically my youth from 1989 onwards. I soaked up this music like a sponge and saw many of the bands live. Love it.
Really good video, Bodycount is a band definitely worth mentioning, Ice T is in the movie Judgement Night somebody had a great idea for the sound track in 1993 which is worth also mentioning a lot of bands collaborate to make what sounds like a Numetal album released with the movie summer 1993
As a musician I can tell you hands down there are straight up guitar riffs from everything that you've mentioned but especially from the Deftones and Korn and a lot of that they got from Faith No More when I was hanging out with Igor from Sepultura and it influenced a lot of roots along with cavalera conspiracy and Soulfly and you can truly hear that style in slipknot's first two albums and this is a conversation that I had with Igor and John Martin who is the the guitar tech from Slipknot and Stone Sour and being a former New Yorker We Can't Stop without mentioning all the New York hardcore bands that were way into the scene and help pave that way
This narrative is the one that seems to keep being spun on this platform.
If you checked out interviews from non-big 4 nu metal bands, they mention how hardcore and hardcore culture wad a huge part of creating nu metal.
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Stuck mojo
Primer 55
When speaking of industrial metal, Shotgun Messiah’s ‘Violent New Breed’ record is frequently and criminally overlooked.
…and Biohazard’s- Urban Discipline
Excellent videos, awesome facts 💯💯👏👏💯👏👏
Great video, cheers
cool vid , most of us didn't know the term nu metal back then lol .. i knew Korn wasn't the first rap metal , but seemed like the first band to use bass and weird guitar noise to add an organic rap feel on occasion , it was a fresh approach !!! sometimes Machine Head or early 2000's radio rock is considered 'Nu Metal" lol... early 90's had a bunch of bands doing the rap metal thing but in different ways (Biohazard , Dog Eat Dog , Skrew, Anthrax ect ) if we are talking purely rap metal as nu metal .. i guess (Korn , Deftones and Limp Bizkit ) would be the big 3 or first 3 Mainstream / Huge nu metal bands ... for a small time those 3 bands were crossing over featuring on songs with each other !! once they caught on it became a genre .. i would say early funk metal (Mr Bungle , Cyco Grooves, Faith no More) may have influenced Nu Metal bands , just as much, as rap .. then nu metal became a term for any metal crossover in the late 90's to early 2000's lololol ..Great video man..great call on Primus too !!! right on !!!
You were spot on with Primus and Korn. Thought it was just my
it is very true with Fear Factory, NIN, Ministry and many other early industrial. Helmet comes from the NY post hardcore scene but their music did heavily influence new metal. A lot of NY hardcore has greatly influenced many of the early nu metal bands.
KoRn is so amazing, I've been a Metalhead for 16 years and I love a lot of Technical Death Metal, Progressive Metal, Dsbm, and Metalcore and Nu-Metal, I say that KoRn is my favorite Nu-Metal band then Slipknot, Mudvayne, Static-X, Sevendust and Nonpoint which also are some of my favorite bands ever especially Static X, Nonpoint and Sevendust
People do overlook what a big influence the “hip hop” side was, and also how embraced it was by hip hop side too, but most of the popular “riffs” from lot of korn n limp stuff n all back then, where all like sounds done by muggs or lethal even Dre first with samples, n they emulated it with guitars n bass
Coming From Someone Who’s Starting To Make Nu Metal This Was A Amazing Video
The channel is excellent, I like the neutral attitude of telling the story and explaining ...greetings from Croatia, Europe 🤘🏝️🏖️
great video bro. can u do Kyuss next plz!!!
nu metal started with Bad Brains "Quickness" album, Faith No More, Mindfunk, Pantera "Cowboys from Hell" and Body Count.
Korn prefected it and made it what it was!
Reminiscence is the essence! Nicely done :)
...Body Count (org. CD- i purchased but never opened it) which was banned due to two intro tunes, only to be re-released later on minus 'intro' & 'Smoked Pork' (i bought immediately on re-release).
*Note: I still have the org. CD manufacturedly sealed in cellophane plastic equipped w/ a $17.99 fluroescent tennis-ball green price sticker tag!
...but no longer have the re-released disc album due to parting ways after .flac conversion.
Stuck mojo from Atlanta , Georgia
Faltó mencionar la movida Groove Metal, y faltó mencionar a Clawfinger, una de las bandas que tenía también el arquetipo de Nu Metal antes que el género existiera como tal
I feel like Coal Chamber also had a big play in it
The link between Run DMC and Beastie Boys was Rick Rubin. He brought the rock to rap.
What is that song in between Toxicity and Wait and Bleed?
You are absolutely correct about Body Count, however, some of the publicity from this band came from the song "Cop Killer", which I believe was forcibly removed from the album. There will never be another band to mix Hip Hop and heavy music like RATM. Their sound is unmatched. And anyone who tries in the future will fail. That's just my take on it.
I grew up on nu metal one thing that always struck me if you listen to the Beatles I Am The Walrus it has the elements of rap rock, ringo plays a hip hop style beat while John almost spits the lyrics at you sorta beastie boys esque.
Also I would like to put forth the hypothesis that the Beatles also invented techo with the track Tomorrow Never Knows.
Any way just my hot take, not looking for any back lash
Very nice vid. thnx for creating/sharing, but I have to admit I crossed my fingers in the hope of another CLaWFiNger mentioning by you. Btw. After years of lumber wondering- and asking around on FB forums.. I finally ended up last year in a Messanger chat with the leader of SexArt.. J.Davis' earlier band right before KoRn .. I asked him, (as the 'Blind' song AFAIK started as a SexArt track) if it (if KoRn) was in any way inspired by CLaWFiNger - their 'Warfair' song from 1993 on their debut Album, 'Deaf Dumb BLIND' .. The reply I got was yes, but more on Ball tounge.. and Helmet ('In The Meanwhile') was an important influence. Anthrax had CLaWFiNger as their warm-up band for a strech. ~ Anyway! Love to Primus #) -- Mushroom love from Norway, and I think it's fun that Marilyn Manson's GAOG album is one of the coolest Nu Metal albums created, IMHO.. CLaWFiNger rocks!
Its nice to hear Mix a lot and Metal church get some love. Dont for get the Judgement Night soundtrack though.
I think ice t including a bodycount track as a preview on the original gangster album probably contributed to sales
Collapsing Lungs from Florida never got their due back in the early 90s.
Death Metal in general, and groove metal also definitely influenced Nu Metal. Before Korn, some metal bands detuned a bit, but only Death Metal band like Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Morbid Angel and a bunch of Swedish bands really tuned anywhere near as low as Korn.
Korn always cites Morbid Angel as being a huge influence on self titled
How could ya miss the Judgement Night soundtrack?? That's the greatest fusion ever!!!!
Fear Factory are phenomenal, discovered them with Soul of a New Machine. Saw them x3 when they were supporting Demanufacture. Faith No More was my gateway to metal. That was such a great time in music!
Edit: Mr Bungle!!! I love their ST album, I had an OG copy with Travolta, before they had to rename it Quote/Unquote.
Funk, Rap, Alternative, Industrial = NU
You forgot groove
@@mattdeinken6580 to me groove and funk are basically the same
Anthrax and Public Emenys', Bring the Noise, was my first intro to rap metal colab, mainly because Aroesmith was considered pop music. Was definitely a fan of both, before that moment though.
Pretty good as always, also I like they idea that you are in the video,,, there is just a mistake in the detail, they wanted a deal with Adidas right from the beginning, but Adidas didn’t want to, so they went to Puma for some time, That’s what Munky told me) but now over 20yrs, later they are now officially with Adidas.😅
Thanks for the info dude! Why the hell did I think it was Nike 😅
as if this detail would change anything 🤣
Which song is at 1:14?
Linkin Park-One Step Closer
Great video the thing that i dont think a lot of people know is slayer being involved in hip hop pretty much since the biggening its really interesting considering slayer will always be considered the ultimate none sell out thrash band 2 albums i love a lot of people hate are diabolica and undisputed attitude undisputed attitude is like one of my favorite punk albums ever i still remember so many punks getting mad about it lol the thing is slayer was involved in all kinds of music people really dont know that
I remember seeing the bring the noise tour in New York City. It was dope.
Wolverine blues is a very influential album for nu metal
I said Prong and Godflesh were important influence in the nu metal scene. Heard Helmet in the bush from Korn Self titled and you could found the godflesh vibe.
"Mordred" especially with the song Falling Away in 1991 gets a mention from me.
First Machinehead album crushes all
Tangent but is that the Witch Hunter Robin soundtrack around 2 minutes?
And for me, LINKIN PARK was the first nu-metal band I listened😂 made me cult-shock into rock/metal world music
Where my fellow nu metal haters at???
Good video,really informative video that goes beyond the usually named progenitors.
I got to see Korn twice in the 90's and at both shows fieldy played "Killing in the name" by himself in between sets! For me personally"Nu metal is tight snare, quirky heavy guitar riffs, a dj and aggressive cringe lyrics! Love it 🤘👽🤘
Body count took their influence from Downset. Who started in 89. Doubtless as one of the first true Nu metal bands. They get overlooked so often it’s a tragedy.
Run DMC Kings of Rock. Publc Enemy and Anthrax. Beastie Boys :No sleep till Brooklyn" Slayer. "Fight for your right" Battle Cry .Back in the early 80's These bands influenced my musical experiences ✌️🤘🙏⚖️🇦🇺
Man, you kept the main event until the end. Body Count as far I'm concerned, is the "missing link" between rap and metal and what became "Nu Metal". I saw Body Count perform at the Ulster Hall in Belfast. Would have been early to mid '90s. "KKK Bitch" is an especially amusing song. Probably only bettered by the live performance of Evil Dick.
If you're going to include RHCP, it's probably also worth adding in Jane's Addiction
Any you guys remember Biohazard wrong side of the tracks. Good job
Kerry played on both Fight for your Right and No Sleep.
Was Anthrax and Public Enemy mentioned anywhere?
You never mentioned Killing Jokes early 90s albums..
I did actually consider mentioning Killing Joke, I love that band. I've never read about any Nu Metal musician mention them though and I don't think they ever really took off in America so not sure they really had much of an impact on the genre.
@@RAWMUSICTV Relisten to KJsong slipteam and you'll hear what I am talking about too. Great album
I’m from the same neighborhood as Geto Boyz! Rip Bushwick Bill!