Kimber KDS9C Rail Double Stacked 1911 Review

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  • Опубликовано: 18 фев 2024
  • I'm a big fan of the original KDS9C but now with the upgrades, including a Pic Rail, Ambi Safeties, Night Sights and improved optics plate, this is taking it to a new level. Thanks to Kimber for Partnering with us and sending the KDS9C Rail Model for the review. @Kimberamerica
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  • @joaopedrobaggio4475
    @joaopedrobaggio4475 2 месяца назад +22

    Cool gun Sootch, the last 10 years are being very innovative on the gun industry, even with all these attacks against your gun rights, just remember my American friend, never surrender, cheers from Brazil, i hope that someday we met each other in person.

  • @michaelcaristo4891
    @michaelcaristo4891 2 месяца назад +5

    Good for Kimber
    BOYCOTT EVERYTHING NEW YORK!

  • @mikethefarrier
    @mikethefarrier 2 месяца назад +14

    Its nice to see Kimber making a comeback after the catastrophes of the last few years

    • @DBONE117
      @DBONE117 2 месяца назад +11

      But they aren't making a comeback. I work in a gun store and we don't sell new ones and we do not like to take used ones in on trade as they are almost impossible to move. People simply don't want them and after they get their first one it's usually their last.

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 2 месяца назад +8

      I wouldn’t call it a comeback until this gun survives a 1000 rd burn down test. Kimber’s 1911’s have a bad reputation for quality. Their mountain rifles are nice though.

    • @petervoyt24
      @petervoyt24 2 месяца назад +4

      @@DBONE117 You speak the truth. I bought a Kimber 45ACP carry version years ago, paid an awful lot of money for it, honestly don't remember the actual price. It was very pretty, walnut grips and came in a rosewood case. That thing stove piped every 4 or 5 rounds, and ejected shell casings into your face and forehead. Had 2 gunsmiths work on it with no improvement. Finally sold that POS and swore I'd never own another one.

    • @DBONE117
      @DBONE117 2 месяца назад +7

      @@petervoyt24 this was essentially my experience with the solo and the Evo. It really doesn't matter what platform it is they don't seem to be able to make it properly. I have noticed the same issue with sig Sauer and ironically enough the same CEO who came into Kimber and then into sig I believe is responsible for the destruction of both companies reputations. I'm not the only one.

    • @Tazer120
      @Tazer120 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@erroneous6947 I 100% disagree with your claim they have bad QA. I own 3 now and they all run and run and run. I have zero problem putting money on a Kimber or betting my life on one since the KDS9C is currently my carry gun.

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival 2 месяца назад +5

    I appreciate these upgrades as they cater to both tactical and practical needs.

  • @protectiverailroaddad7541
    @protectiverailroaddad7541 2 месяца назад +11

    I really like the kds9c with the rail but I can’t justify the price increase over the original. They added an ambi safety, rail, night sights, and higher capacity mag and charged like $600 more. I’d probably be in for one if it was only $200 more than the original. Good gun non the less.

  • @TheLoneRanger745
    @TheLoneRanger745 2 месяца назад +4

    The grip shape looks like the Beretta M9 , the Black model is VERY BEAUTIFUL I like the one piece frame more than the polymer type.

  • @jefferytillis8309
    @jefferytillis8309 2 месяца назад +5

    It's very nice looking and I would probably pick it over a 2011 style pistol. Given that it is a cocked and locked 9mm pistol, I don't see why I would pick it over any number of models of CZ for less than half the money. I could afford to upgrade most with Cajun Gun Works parts and still be way ahead of the game price wise.

  • @993isgawd
    @993isgawd Месяц назад +1

    Our Kimber rep brought along a Black/Gray example for a bit of show and tell; a very sweet looker.

  • @tntshuffle-9799
    @tntshuffle-9799 2 месяца назад +4

    Why did I begin drooling as soon as I saw this pistol? 🤪

    • @garywboisseau
      @garywboisseau 2 месяца назад +2

      Same here, until I saw the price. 😒

    • @tntshuffle-9799
      @tntshuffle-9799 2 месяца назад +2

      @garywboisseau Yeah, a bit steep. Don't think I'll buy one but it is a good looking pistol.

    • @garywboisseau
      @garywboisseau 2 месяца назад +3

      @@tntshuffle-9799 I would love to have one. I love Kimber, and I love that they have moved to a gun friendly part of the nation. New York is about to lose all of their commercial tax base, because of their collective anti 2A attitude. We shall see how well that works out for them. Anyway, if this Kimber was a grand or a bit less, I'd find a way. It is an absolutely beautiful handgun.

  • @chiang_paul
    @chiang_paul 2 месяца назад +5

    Great gun ❤Thank you for your introduction 👍

  • @Boomhauer333
    @Boomhauer333 2 месяца назад +2

    That's a beautiful piece right there 👍👍

  • @thomasresams
    @thomasresams 2 месяца назад +3

    Sweet looking 1911 will be this year Christmas present

  • @Three60Crusader
    @Three60Crusader 2 месяца назад +3

    Awesome out of the box gun.

  • @paulfryejr2918
    @paulfryejr2918 2 месяца назад +2

    Good review thanks.

  • @timsmith9645
    @timsmith9645 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video nice kimber 1911 9mm gun thanks for sharing sootch00

  • @ragnargreystoke3271
    @ragnargreystoke3271 2 месяца назад +1

    Great show about a great gun. I’m sold

  • @waynethompson3605
    @waynethompson3605 2 месяца назад +1

    Great vidio, thanks, love my Kimber pistols.

  • @phxlt1994
    @phxlt1994 2 месяца назад +1

    Beautiful gun and not a bad price!

  • @mikelyon5595
    @mikelyon5595 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice piece, N/A in Calizuela!

  • @williamswiger7547
    @williamswiger7547 2 месяца назад +1

    Already have had my Wilson Combat SFX9 for some time now. This Kimber has a nice look.

  • @chrisredwolf3130
    @chrisredwolf3130 28 дней назад

    I wish Kimber made this new edition with the rail and ambidextrous Safety in the Stainless.
    I would love to see that Railed Frame with the Stainless Slide.

  • @Michael_45_AARP
    @Michael_45_AARP 2 месяца назад +3

    I picked up one of the original versions as soon as they came out and it’s been my EDC ever since then. Very accurate too.

  • @buncha5651
    @buncha5651 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful looking pistol.

  • @davidpatrick3591
    @davidpatrick3591 2 месяца назад +4

    Mine had 1 FTF on the 3rd mag.And finish isn’t durable
    Lots of finish ware on frame and slide after 100 rounds

    • @puma51921
      @puma51921 2 месяца назад +1

      100 rounds that's terrible to have wear that soon. I would send it back.

    • @davidpatrick3591
      @davidpatrick3591 2 месяца назад +2

      had many FTFeed issues and yes,I’m sending back.very disappointed

  • @quayshawndameron1349
    @quayshawndameron1349 2 месяца назад +2

    Thanks for the in depth review and info @sootch00

  • @LARRYSORETH
    @LARRYSORETH 2 месяца назад +1

    I have it. I love it I think I was the first person in Florida to get one

  • @amadexmilby7309
    @amadexmilby7309 2 месяца назад +1

    OHHH WEE! Dat gun look good.

  • @richardespinoza6243
    @richardespinoza6243 2 месяца назад +1

    I am not the biggest fan of Double stack 1911's However after seeing what Kimber has produce I am having a change of heart.

  • @dugger5302
    @dugger5302 2 месяца назад +1

    Nice looking Kimber but, sense you scratch it sounds like that would be a great give away at tonights live!! Love the limbers, good review Sootch.

  • @marknewton183
    @marknewton183 2 месяца назад

    Mine is going back to Kimber. Had nothing but feed problems since day one.

  • @saltsea9499
    @saltsea9499 2 месяца назад +3

    I really wish you would do a comparison with this, the tisas ds1911 in 4.25", and the springfield prodigy in 4.25"

  • @analogueoverdigital929
    @analogueoverdigital929 2 месяца назад +1

    Grip angle looks great, like a hk or beretta m9. Still not on board with kimber yet. Heard and seen too many fussy guns by them.

  • @larrygooch6233
    @larrygooch6233 2 месяца назад +1

    They just made a pistol closer to a Browning high power but with a few more nice details.

  • @svbarryduckworth628
    @svbarryduckworth628 2 месяца назад +2

    If I had longer fingers to reach the trigger without rotating my grip so that the barrel axis is no longer in line with the bones of my lower arm I would love it. As it is I have the thinnest aluminum grip panel I can find on my 1911's so that trigger reach is not problematic for my recoil control. Fat grips not good for short fingers.

  • @nathanhoard3421
    @nathanhoard3421 2 месяца назад +2

    💪I love Kimber's

  • @wtfdtreats
    @wtfdtreats Месяц назад +1

    Nice looking 1911, but I won't be impressed until I start seeing reputable 1911 companies make double stack .45ACP with 14 rounds minimum damn it.

  • @ReadMyDiscription.223
    @ReadMyDiscription.223 2 месяца назад +1

    I've been trying to decide between this black version or the two tone gray/black.

  • @emperor91108
    @emperor91108 2 месяца назад

    Very interesting

  • @alexwhitley5195
    @alexwhitley5195 2 месяца назад +2

    First time I broke down a 1911, I got myself an "idiot scratch".

    • @BartoniusAustinius
      @BartoniusAustinius 15 дней назад

      Bro, did the same thing on the first breakdown of my 10mm Rapide! I just didn't know 😥

    • @alexwhitley5195
      @alexwhitley5195 15 дней назад +1

      @@BartoniusAustinius Oh man, mine was on my 45 Rapide! I almost cried.

  • @TheFoxyt2
    @TheFoxyt2 2 месяца назад +2

    I was very indifferent when I saw it. But at Shotshow I shot it and fell in love with it. But I bought the prodigy instead. Plenty good enough for me.

    • @BartoniusAustinius
      @BartoniusAustinius 15 дней назад

      If $$ was zero consideration, which one of the two would you pick?

  • @darrendyson8347
    @darrendyson8347 2 месяца назад +3

    What's up Unk!!?? I'm like damn if Smith and Wesson don't come out with something similar to this I might have to go with Kimber likely guys like my grandfather's law enforcement days.

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 2 месяца назад +1

      Pls rewrite in English

    • @darrendyson8347
      @darrendyson8347 2 месяца назад

      @@DinoNucci is this English for you.. Buddha buddhahama summa Kuma Yama Yuna tuma tinta nada!!

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 2 месяца назад +2

      @@darrendyson8347 no

    • @darrendyson8347
      @darrendyson8347 2 месяца назад

      @@DinoNucci yup

  • @louisbaillie1026
    @louisbaillie1026 2 месяца назад +1

    KImber $1300. S & W 5906 $400. The 20-round mag for the 5906 is the same price as the Kimber 18 round mag. for $1000 I can live without a rail.

  • @johnm5131
    @johnm5131 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't like how the frame finish is already wearing away after just mounting a light for reviews.

  • @davebentz6072
    @davebentz6072 2 месяца назад

    I really love the looks of this, but i just dont trust Kimbers QC. Are the internals MIM ?

  • @johnkinkel4858
    @johnkinkel4858 2 месяца назад +1

    I like the newer rail version! Why didn't they build it this way in the first place?

  • @Rusonekox9
    @Rusonekox9 2 месяца назад +1

    Good looking gun for collectors, not for edc thought.
    Just like I use work boots for work instead of the fancy shoes for special occasions I wouldn't use this gun for Edc.

  • @MikeInVBVA
    @MikeInVBVA 2 месяца назад +1

    let's be honest, with CNC machining, that barrel isn't that more complicated than a normal bull barrel. Decades ago, yeah, that would be impressive and expensive, but today, not so much. As to the pistol, it's a nice pistol, the grip bob and and capacity with a rail, and ambi controls... the prices on the street isn't too bad.

  • @PeeJayBrownJr
    @PeeJayBrownJr 2 месяца назад

    If I may ask what ear protection do you use?

  • @dmw3086
    @dmw3086 2 месяца назад +3

    Very good looking gun. I just personally don’t like 9mm 1911 style guns. If I’m going to something that big and heavy give me a more capable caliber.

  • @user-jc2ul9hc1x
    @user-jc2ul9hc1x 2 месяца назад +1

    Try mc2c mossemberg and tell us what you think?

  • @RikhiRozzay
    @RikhiRozzay 2 месяца назад

    not sure if you mentioned it, but how does it compare to a staccato?

  • @stanreedy2686
    @stanreedy2686 Месяц назад

    how does it compare to the Springfield Emissary 9 mm commander

  • @rontoomey1187
    @rontoomey1187 Месяц назад

    A large handgun, 7.75 inches long and 29.6 oz. with the 15 round and 30.3 ounces with the 18 round mag and currently on line costs $1,730.99! Would like to see a comparison of this with the Smith & Wesson Equalizer, which has 1911 features, but the single action hammer is internal and this handgun costs $499.00l

  • @ksingleton101
    @ksingleton101 2 месяца назад

    I owned a 1911 Spring Field Armory for years. It was in 45 Cal. Will Kimber be coming out with a 45cal Double Stack?

  • @photognate88
    @photognate88 2 месяца назад +2

    Hey, (Off topic) I just noticed this while listing on headphones but why is your on camera voice over at the beginning mono?

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci 2 месяца назад +1

      User error

  • @user-es8zp7wu2n
    @user-es8zp7wu2n 2 месяца назад +2

    I'd rather have a ported barrel than a fluted one.

  • @castelloedaniel
    @castelloedaniel 2 месяца назад

    Nice side arm

  • @alfredmolijar4258
    @alfredmolijar4258 2 месяца назад

    Very cool gun very nice so dat gun can shoot 9mm major all the time???

  • @gregmarchegiani6656
    @gregmarchegiani6656 2 месяца назад +1

    Can we have it with a grip safety?

  • @DBONE117
    @DBONE117 2 месяца назад +5

    Kimber resale value plummets faster than a BMW. We can't move used ones out of the store and we don't like to take them in. The QC is shoddy at best.

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 2 месяца назад +1

      Their mountain rifles are good. But Their pistols are garbage imo. Unless you go back 15-20 yrs.

    • @johnnysmith3079
      @johnnysmith3079 Месяц назад

      Where are you located

  • @jaredchow3487
    @jaredchow3487 2 месяца назад

    What was the song used in the intro?

  • @danielpadgett2831
    @danielpadgett2831 2 месяца назад +1

    It will melt in your hand along with your bank account 😂

  • @natethegreatog
    @natethegreatog 2 месяца назад

    I want one!

  • @erroneous6947
    @erroneous6947 2 месяца назад +2

    Not confident in Kimbers 1911’s currently. Their mountain rifles are awesome though.

    • @justinalvarez687
      @justinalvarez687 2 месяца назад

      How come? JW bc just purchased a non rail due to huge savings

  • @BLACKNIGHT8990
    @BLACKNIGHT8990 26 дней назад

    Why don’t they have a silver version with rail?

  • @russellball280
    @russellball280 2 месяца назад +8

    Just can't bring myself to buy another Kimber!

    • @erroneous6947
      @erroneous6947 2 месяца назад +4

      Agreed. Quality is horrible. At least their 1911’s. Their mountain rifles are good.

  • @johndeere1951a
    @johndeere1951a 2 месяца назад +1

    Yonkers NY to Troy Alabama ❓ talk about friendly?
    Kimber should've moved to New Hampshire, Sig Sauer territory. Very gun friendly with educated work force ⚖️🗽☮️🇺🇲✌️
    I just bought a SIG SAUER P226 Elite for $300+ less, with DA/SA.
    full length slide rails. I love it but should I decide to sell it, It has fantastic resale value. Live Free or Die 💥✌️

  • @peterguns
    @peterguns 2 месяца назад +1

    Beauty, what a toy

  • @MrTanimgt
    @MrTanimgt 2 месяца назад

    Right side thumb safety looks very slim. Probably on the camera probably not.

  • @jacobdeem8187
    @jacobdeem8187 2 месяца назад +4

    How many malfunctions did you have?

    • @Eddie_Munster
      @Eddie_Munster 2 месяца назад +3

      Well, it’s a Kimber, so more than zero lol

    • @jacobdeem8187
      @jacobdeem8187 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Eddie_Munster as far as I can tell he doesn't give these stats which I think is.... Not good

    • @Eddie_Munster
      @Eddie_Munster 2 месяца назад +4

      @@jacobdeem8187 these are just commercials. That’s what sootch does

    • @Three60Crusader
      @Three60Crusader 2 месяца назад

      Probably zero this gun is very reliable

  • @GatCat
    @GatCat 2 месяца назад +2

    Sootch makes great videos but everything is a commercial. It’s all praise all the time to sell product.

  • @llamawizard
    @llamawizard Месяц назад

    No palm safety?

  • @WY_Circus_Freak
    @WY_Circus_Freak 2 месяца назад +1

    just so you know your voiceover is only coming through on the left channel

  • @mikekaminski6031
    @mikekaminski6031 Месяц назад

    Looks like an IWI Jericho

  • @angrywolverine6749
    @angrywolverine6749 2 месяца назад +1

    Not a kimber fan, for quality and price go Sig legion P226

  • @PhuVet
    @PhuVet 20 дней назад

    How much is the wrong optics plate if the right one is 79.99?

  • @johnlifer1494
    @johnlifer1494 Месяц назад

    I've got the stainless original model. Great shooting gun. Would like an ambitious safety, don't need a rail, but those two changes do NOT warrant a $500 msrp change. Kimbet on crack....and I hate a $99 plate for optics. Should be on the gun....

  • @Scarywoody
    @Scarywoody 2 месяца назад +4

    Nice looking safe queens. It's like putting Mag Wheels on a Model T. Enough with the 9mm 1911s.

  • @Jcarini15
    @Jcarini15 2 месяца назад

    Great looking gun, too much for a safe queen 9mm

  • @fredricharllee6870
    @fredricharllee6870 Месяц назад

    It is same size as a p226 and .5 inch shorter than glock 17. I.e. full size pistol

  • @eddiet204
    @eddiet204 2 месяца назад

    I own the first Gen KDS9c and the grip panels are virtually useless. Other than that, the gun is outstanding.

  • @bacanthony3659
    @bacanthony3659 2 месяца назад +2

    Pretty funny comparing a crap Kimber to a Wilson Combat. To each their own though.

    • @BartoniusAustinius
      @BartoniusAustinius 15 дней назад

      Just depends, with Kimber, you have a 50% chance of a lemon. But, if you luck out like me, it is an amazing pistol

  • @ARTABLACKATL
    @ARTABLACKATL 2 месяца назад

    👍👍👍

  • @jerometuazon1766
    @jerometuazon1766 Месяц назад

    Mr. Scotch, would you tell me what is that tactical watch you're wearing'? ' been your long- time fan here, seen it a lot of times in our vids, thank you Sir, -Jerome T. from Islands Philippines.

  • @antekknoll6568
    @antekknoll6568 2 месяца назад +2

    Who exactly are you ?? 😊

  • @riccochet704
    @riccochet704 2 месяца назад +43

    I honestly believe no modern pistol should come without a rail. Or an optics mounting system. This is 2024, people want the option to add lights and optics. When pistols are released without those options it makes no sense. "well, we were going to...." is not an excuse. It's a "we're old and out of touch with the market" statement. I get it if you are making a nostalgic throwback pistol, but this is a 2011 compact carry combat pistol.

    • @cavalieroutdoors6036
      @cavalieroutdoors6036 2 месяца назад +16

      More to the point - the railed model shouldn't come at a 400 dollar premium. Seriously, what the hell? Even if I thought the pistol was worth the 1300 price point, bumping that 400 for what should be a standard feature? Go home Kimber, you're drunk.

    • @maxfit68906
      @maxfit68906 2 месяца назад +7

      @@cavalieroutdoors6036My thoughts exactly.

    • @idontcare-ct7jm
      @idontcare-ct7jm 2 месяца назад +23

      I disagree. Rails make holster selection harder and optics on a point-blank, mag-dump weapon are kinda dumb imo.

    • @user-vk7jz1tc1l
      @user-vk7jz1tc1l 2 месяца назад +1

      @@idontcare-ct7jm Right, and options should be OPTIONAL. Nothing is free; _everything_ on _every_ product is paid for by customers. The difference is whether each customer pays for his own choices, or subsidizes someone else's.

    • @riccochet704
      @riccochet704 2 месяца назад +7

      @@idontcare-ct7jm If a holster manufacturer isn't making holsters to accommodate rails and optics they deserve to go out of business. And I like both on my carry pistols.

  • @berniestraight126
    @berniestraight126 2 месяца назад

    I’m sorry I think I will stick with the bull for the price I don’t know the bull is just better comes with plates and I have never had the best of luck with kimber seem to jamb were others don’t my son has had good luck

  • @Bam-BamMoore-zz2vk
    @Bam-BamMoore-zz2vk 2 месяца назад

    ‼️LOTS OF💰💰💰💰💰💰💰‼️

  • @Jason-oo4jg
    @Jason-oo4jg 2 месяца назад

    Great Video - 1911 = .45 ACP or nothing...

  • @001alien.
    @001alien. 2 месяца назад

    But of course, the quality depends on the method, especially the opinion of the shooter himself, who is an expert in firearms, is very important for someone who should pay close attention to the opinion of this expert and shooting before buying.

  • @davidpatrick3591
    @davidpatrick3591 2 месяца назад +1

    UPDATE,many failure to feed issues! Very disappointing for 2k dollar pistol.Sending back!
    Wish me luck!

  • @jamesbroughton7870
    @jamesbroughton7870 2 месяца назад

    Looks like a beautiful gun but it’s out of my price range that’s the sad part

  • @karapusat4002
    @karapusat4002 2 месяца назад

    🗡🦅🔥🔥🔥🦅🗡

  • @HammersOverStrikers
    @HammersOverStrikers 2 месяца назад +1

    Sooooo beautiful. Too bad its a Kimber😢

  • @CHEECHMUN
    @CHEECHMUN 2 месяца назад

    That what I'm talkin bout. WTF, ALL 😁😈💯💥🤟♨🧿🔨🏁1911's should be double stack!!!!

  • @tomlowndes3710
    @tomlowndes3710 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful Pistol but to pricey for me

  • @jimbo3214
    @jimbo3214 2 месяца назад

    Love the look of the Kimber but to add a "C" to the name is a joke.

  • @brucebarnes9138
    @brucebarnes9138 2 месяца назад

    I'm sure it's fine personally I don't care for picatinny rails on my pistoles

  • @thesixpkamerican1
    @thesixpkamerican1 2 месяца назад

    No sound

  • @joet.3091
    @joet.3091 2 месяца назад

    Quite the bargain at $1300 😂