What happened to the Vikings' 2022 draft class???
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2024
- Matthew Coller and Dane Mizutani wrap up our four part series looking at how the Vikings front office got the 2022 draft so wrong. What led to the poor fits and slow development of the 10 players taken in 2022?
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The Vikings have a Serious Problem with not being able to evaluate Talent, the scouting department needs to be Fired.
They already were after the 2022 draft btw. Those scouts were the one's left over from Rick. Kwesi brought in new scouts after the 2022 draft
Its ok vikings, the lions will continue to trade with you. Do you want to trade back again?
@@jordanslater7085 who knows what these nuckle heads will do? have a great off-season over in Detroit Brother.
@@JaketheMongoose A new GM isn't going to come in and solely listen to the current scouts. Did they tell him to trade down 20 spots for a ham sandwich in return. Did Kwesi and crew know that L Cine would still be available, especially cuz he was so highly coveted. Don't blame "Rick's scouts" for a very dumb trade. Addison fell right into Kwesi's lap just like K Hamilton did. Had Kwesi stood pat we'd have an all-pro safety on the squad for the next 3 -4 years.
@@Wolf-qh2lk Lol I didn't say any of that man just stating a fact because OP mentioned "new scouts"
They blew that pick. Look at Hamilton and could of got him with out moving
I was high on Cine, just wasn’t happy we moved down and passed on Hamilton.
Your first Round pick has to be a starter, you do that by picking the best player available regardless of position
I’m depressed the Vikings are in a serious hot mess compared to everyone else in the division 😮💨😂
I think they’re going to suck for luck 5 years minimum
One of my problems with the Evans pick was taking him over Riq Woolen. Woolen was bigger and faster and was felt to be raw and grabby, but the traits I heard the Vikings spout about Evan’s, Woolen has in spades.
yeah I hated that they didn't take him
If Kwesi can't find more than two players that are heavy contributors then it is time to look for another GM. Moving back from pick 11 to the late teens and picking up an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick might be the best move to make with all of the holes they have on the two lines. Hopefully some of those are filled in free agency.
Well we had a defensive guru coach and Spielman that couldn't draft a corner to save their lives . We are use to that
Got to try and get Winfield
I bet Winfield is franchise tagged or signed before free agency
@@ronrubiin4956 I'm sure he will be
It does beg the question: Would Vikes move down that far if offered that deal (trading down so far with so little in return) this year? I have to think the answer is “No.” Missing on Cine sucks, but the draft trade value was off from the start.
Passing on hamilton was a mistake. Cine is treadwell 2.0
The GM has set us back 5 years in 3 drafts - we passed on Ryan Poles and he is building an empire -
Poles passed on the Vikings wanted to build a team not just be competitive
… looks like he was right ;)
I’ve defended Kwesi so far but he HAS to hit on this upcoming draft. If he doesn’t then he gotta go
Even when Vikings draft the right players, as soon as they put on the purple & gold uniforms , they become soft and weak, go figure.
My best pick at that spot was Jordan Davis
The Eagles first 3 picks in that draft - Davis, Jurgens and Nakobe Dean - combined have played fewer snaps than Ed Ingram and at no better standard. Moderate teams were running all over the Eagles late in the season - that's your hero Jordan and Jalen Carter that they were running through.
@@robe2504quit worrying about other teams 🤡 especially teams that get that draft capital in the first place, Vikings have 2 in the top 100 this year, and if they desperately try to trade up they’ll have no picks AGAIN next year, but let’s look at the eagles 🥱😂
@@robe2504they also had a completely brain dead coaching staff trying to organize the defense this year
@@JPqbsswhen you win games 3-0, and have one of the lowest points allowed in the league, DEFENSE, is NOT your problem.
@@yolo25000 talking about the eagles, not the Vikings.
Booth highlight was his stupid celebration in practice with Titans after INT-another KAM trade dud
Oli Udoh had a season ending injury and spent the season on IR, FYI
This draft screwed the Viking Cine and Booth!!
I was reading somewhere else that a problem with Cine is his tackling ability. Which is hard to believe a defensive player from a national championship team can't tackle, but maybe he was always playing deep pass coverage in college, like you mentioned, and can't tackle NFL sized players? along with the rules of tackling in the NFL so as not to get penalized??
He is willing to give up his body, but he bounces off hits at times.
How slow do you want to go?
Think the Eagles passing on JJ aren't having the same discussion? Every team drafts 1st round busts about every 2-3 years. It happens, move on.
If Winfield Jr doesn't get tagged, get him. Draft DE and C in rounds 1,2 then get a stud DT and CB in FA. Draft for depth after that. Let Kirk and Hunter walk. We'd have 2 years to find a QBOTF and build a powerhouse team. May go 7-10 again next year but every single team besides NE who's won a SB in the past decade had a couple losing records before ascending. Our problem is preferring mediocrity over a chance at greatness.
This is why all draft picks are nothing more than A possible MAYBE !
If a guy like Lewis Cine only gets eight snaps, how on earth can it be known if he's good enough??? Put him in, and let's see what he can do.
They see him in practice
I agree
The head coach is weak and too conservative. KOC doesn’t know how to win football games. That’s the bottom line.. He worry and focusing on life little things that no matter. What should matter to him is progress and winning the Superbowl in five years. The head coach either has it or not.. A football team doesn’t need more years added to the head coach to confirm he’s not person to lead the team to a championship.
The head coach is weak and too conservative. KOC doesn’t know how to win football games. That’s the bottom line.. He worry and focusing on life little things that no matter. What should matter to him is progress and winning the Superbowl in five years. The head coach either has it or not.. A football team doesn’t need more years added to the head coach to confirm he’s not person to lead the team to a championship.
Probably because everyone saw he doesn't know the defensive concepts 🤷
The problems with Lewis Cine come down to him not being mentally capable of responding correctly to what is happening on the field. If Ingram doesn't make a jump to being above average all-around guard in his 3rd year, then he will never be more than he is, the weak link on the offensive line. I hope all these players prove me wrong but 2022 was the worst draft in Vikings history, it make Rick Spielman look like a genius.
Cine is almost as big of a bust as Teddy Bridgewater 🤯
Apparently they were out on Hamilton and so the trade down made sense to them.
That is the part that makes no sense
@@phreakerbythespeaker9902not really, dude had no fit in Donatell’s defense
@@NachDeaDSilenT Neither did Donatell
@@phreakerbythespeaker9902 BUT, you can't trade down 20 SPOTS in the 1st round of the NFL Draft (on your very 1st pick as GM) and not get at least the Lions 2023 first rounder. He panicked in the spotlight and made a foolish trade. Kwesi had no clue Cine would still be there at 32. I about had a stroke when I saw the compensation for that freefall trade!
@@Wolf-qh2lk same 💔
it was a disaster /never trade the 12th PICK
I'm not a fan of all the "2022 draft stinks" takes as if one draft class is the reason the team has problems. Look back at the Speilman drafts from 2016--2021. Most of those years (except 2020) only had 1 quality starter. The great contributor from 2019 was Bradbury. 2016 literally had no one. KAM gets and "F" for his first draft with the caveat he had to work with Rick's scouting and a short offseason. Last year was better. The cap is finally in decent shape. That said, they need a really good offseason or the rest of the division is going to leave them behind.
And please let Kirk walk.
Kwesi happened. Wait till you see the 2024 draft I’m sure we are in for another Kwesi special. 💩👨🏿🍳
TBH!!! It was his injury. It's all mental for Cine
Don't panic dudes - Cine had a horrific injury. It's hard to imagine how much that takes to get over psychological trauma. Often players disappear for a year after a serious injury and then comeback. There was zero reason to rush Cine on to the field with Metellus and co playing at such a high level. Cine and Booth are both elite athletes. Their time will come.
Thank you !!! For many people it takes many weeks to get mentally back on track even from a simple ankle sprain, so I can't imagine coming back Cine's kind of injury...
Evans will be just fine