Best Hot Hatch sub £35k? BMW 128ti Full Review | 4K
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- I get my hands on BMW's 128ti for a few days, what's this little affordable hot hatch like to live with?
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if you tell me steering feel is great i'm buying one
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Been toying with a 128ti for ages...finally put my order in on Saturday and delivery estimated for mid June. Can’t wait!
Driving one today for the first I was surprised just how quick it is. 👌🏼
Thanks Joe. Just bought my wife the car as a Mother’s Day surprise and your review helped me cement my decision making. Your enthusiasm is infectious 😀
Great video Joe, going from strength to strength, quality narration and you make the subscriber feel the joy.
Hiya Joe. Been watching every review vid on the 128....yes I'm going to get one! I really like your review; only one to be objective, only one to mention economy and the losses due to 4 wheel drive, (why the performance is similar to 135i). I learnt more from you than any of the others....oh and no LOUD MUSIC! Thanks😎
Watching this again as I am very close deciding to go for a 128ti. As always very informative video, 👍 Joe
Great video. I’ve had a 128ti since Dec 20 and the wife recently got her M235i GC.
Agree 100% - the 128 is far more engaging, more fun whereas the 235 is almost a little clinical in comparison.
Just had mine delivered partly off the back of this video. Love it!!
Thanks for the video Joe, this new 1 series seems a wise choice for those wanting fun for a fraction of the price to bmw's topshelf offerings. You've made me want a test drive!
Love the caressing of the red accents Joe 😉 And well done on the Oakley 🙌
Thanks Joe. Purchased one on the back of your initial review and Hamza's face on his video. Lack of test drives and covid has made this one an unknown in the line up. I've had a varied past history in cars, 4 pot petrol, diesel, v6 v8s and flat 6s. Manual would be preferable but despite people's opinions who never actually get to drive the cars, I love mine. It's not an M but its exactly what it was set out to be and more. Had it 3 weeks and worth every penny.
The quality of you videos keeps on growing! Good work man
Thank you!
It is nice ad refreshing to see that you do not need to spend over 100k to have fun with a car.
Once again, Joe nails it in this excellent video.
It would be great to see a collaboration with another RUclipsr and get a comparison in real-time of this car and a Golf GTI or similar.
Great review, have been searching for a review of this. Top Gear mag put this ahead of others 👍🏼
I've currently got an A3 2.0lt tfsi sline. After another 4 years this 128ti will probably be my next. Just a perfect all rounder 👌
I’m definitely interested in driving one. My good friend has an M135i and I have the M235i GC, it’ll be good to compare all three. Talking about fuel economy, I’m currently averaging 41.5... gentle driving in eco pro 👌 Very impressed with the car so far.
Just ordered one of these 2 days ago in Storm Bay with red detailing deleted, added every extra apart from 19" wheels and just managed to keep it under £40k. Was initially going for M135i but wanted the extras. But after watching your videos as well as mostly every other review on the 128ti I'm glad I went for this. Roll on February! Great videos by the way, I'm now a subscriber.
Just to update this post. ended up cancelling new order due to delivery time, chip shortage and spec being downgraded. Bought a 10 month old one at end of November with all the packs and in Storm Bay plus 19" 552M wheels. Brilliant car, absolutely love it and everything Joe says is spot on.
Where you leasing? How much did you pay for both deals ?
Finally a 128ti video! Thanks! I have a few questions:
Does it do lift off oversteering?
What can you say about the sound? Can it do little crackles?
How are the brakes? Is it stable under heavy braking?
What exactly do you dislike about the gearbox? I've driven this gearbox in a Mini JCW and I really enjoy it. It often predicts exactly what I was about to do. Only the paddles aren't as responsive as you'd like them to be.
Personally I wouldn't like a manual. A normal F40 diesel is already hard to control when accelerating fast out of a roundabout. Shifting and steering plus torque steer makes it hard to keep the car in a lane. Or maybe I just can't drive properly. 😂
picked mine in december and now i can really say its a real hot hatch! 🔥
Great review as always Joe, would be good to see the Golf GTI side by side review with the Ti.
Thanks Joe, for your review. This has made my mind up, and I will be going for the M128i instead of the M135i. I think they both have their strong points, but the 128i seems like more a drivers car..
thanks again
Very nice review as always 😄. Makes me want to have this car even more 😄
great review Joe. I always wait for your videos. Shame, that they dont offer it with manual. I have been watching your videos since you had M135i (he white one), thanks to you, i have convinced my brother when he vas upgrading form hic JCW 3 door, to buy M140, manual, Great car. Keep up the good work and congrats on you U tube success.
I’ve just bought myself a 2015 BMW M235i today in red with a manual box, and I’m absolutely bloody loving it
Great decision my friend. I have a manual M235i in blue. It's all the car you need and then some.
Damn I love this so so much. Very good value... though curious how it compares to a GTI (Clubsport)
Nice video Joe!
I haven't watched one for a while, but I enjoyed that. 👍
The next generation 1 series isn't on the same level as the previous. Especially from an engine and gearbox point of view.
It certainly gets things right with the technology and interior though.
Both, M135i and 128ti have their place in the market, and direct rivals with VW Golf R and GTI etc.
Having said all that, I will be sticking with my M235i for a long time to come! No way am I downgrading to a damn 2 litre! 😂😂
Keep the great content coming. 👍
Lovely drive had it for a few month, I’ll be looking forward to the 2023 version
I like it. One from the top is the sweet spot most times. Diminishing returns after that. I like the concept of bringing back the ti its appeal is that those that know know.
I’ve seen a few of the TI’s on the road now and I think like the new 4 coupe, in the right colour they look good. 👌🏻
Great video, im on the look out to replace my leon cupra 290 in the next 12 months this maybe on that list tbh
You can always trust Joe for an extensive BMW review😃
Nice one, Joe, thank you.
Had a 128ti as a loaner while my F30 335d was having a recall done yesterday. Got to drive it about 80 miles or so and I was impressed on the whole. It was black with the red accents so looked a bit chavvy in my opinion (especially for a factory car), the interior doesn't look like it will take well to wear and tear with all that gloss black and some cheap feeling plastics, it had 19's so the ride was a tad harsh and the auto hill-hold is just bizzare. But despite that I really enjoyed it, plenty if power for road use and really nimble in the bends with loads of grip - that was with the Bridgestones on it too! It averaged 30mpg, we were obviously having some fun in it, but not amazing as it was mostly cruising; the one I had with options was just under £40k, an amount of money I wouldn't part with for it - but I'd say that about nearly any new car with modern prices. Though, I think it would be a good leasing option and it did leave me with a big grin, propper fun little car.
Best of all, normal indicators! But, the tick is very loud through the speakers and sounds like something you'd hear in a Peugeot 307 🤣
I remember wanting the compact ti back in the day. Looks a good all rounder 💪🏽
Joe make the rolling race happen I would love to see it and believe it would be a very close race 👍
Good video as ever, thanks for posting! Looks like you can’t order one with the “normal” basic dials as per your loan car anymore, it seems to be the full digital system only and larger screen so I guess that’s where the extra £1k has gone. Keep up the good work!
Hi, I've noticed this as I was deciding between a 2series GC with the 2l petrol (178bhp) and the 128ti. The funniest thing is that with the same spec, the 128ti works our cheaper than the GC. Makes it a no brainer :D
I saw one of these in person for the first time the other day - the red accents looked really cheap and nasty in person. Good thing you can option them off!
I ordered mine without the ti stickers on the side. Sadly it also deletes the contrasting side skirts, so mine will be body coloured. I ordered Melbourne red metallic, so the fins front and back will be in black. You still get the 128 ti badges on the rear hatch.
I saw one with them and quite liked them.
@@johnfranklin6394 nice, congratulations have fun with it
I optioned them off the new car I ordered then put them back on then cancelled the new car as a 10 month old one came up in my colour Storm Bay and it had all the extras plus the red bits. Got to say I love the red bits now as it catches every ones eye and they all assume it is a sporty version, especially those who know very little about cars. I think it would look too much like a 118i with the bodykit otherwise.
Excellent review, if I could afford one, I’d be getting one! 👍🏻
Good stuff Joe great video
Thank you!
Great review, it would be good to see you review some other, less high performance BMW’s too, such as the 330i, X5 30D etc. Thanks
Another great review, Joe, thanks. Really interested in what you say re the comparison with a Mini. I really miss my Mini. I needed more space, but big minis feel flabby and I ended up switching for an A4. Which is dull. This might well be the answer.
Have you tried the JCW Clubman? Does feel a little larger than my wife's previous Coopers S but so much faster, comfortable and practical.
The best FWD 300+ bhp has to be the type r but it doesn’t achieve the mpg you got on the motorway and the looks are polarising. The new sport line version of the type r looks better than the original gt variant but this 128ti looks great! Solid video!👍🏻
Please do a back seat long drive with the 420 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Picked up our ideal spec Mini Clubman Jcw for just under £35k - active dampers, Nav, Pan roof, Harmon Kardon, tft dash. That's effectively 135 for 128 money.
I think the 2021 facelift I30N DCT will be one to compete for the price point and performance. Plus you get a track warranty.
I really want to have a drive in one of these, my 1st BMW was an E36 318ti not as powerful but it was a great car which I kept for 6 years and did 97000 miles in it.
Get mine hopefully in December can’t wait
Hi Joe! Loving your videos! So on this video I noticed that you were driving about two minutes from my house! I have an M240i which I bought after watching your vid! If you are close then we should go for a drive!
I love it Joe and would have one over the M135i like you. Is it as fun to drive as a F20/21 M135/M140i?
Great video and you're on Harry's route too!
Joe, have you tried the updated version 2021... I have ordered one blind rather than the M135 and would love a back to back to test because there are supposed to be a lot of differences regards Lee.... great channel by the way
Think this car is very fun for a FWD. Everyone seems to think the same about it. This is definitely one car to watch for.
Watch? It's ugly!!!!
@@DDLNX exactly, the shape of the hood is off, people have no sense of aesthetics. this is an overpriced regular hatchback, not a bmw, why would anyone want to pay for a badge ONLY*?
how tf do I see people commenting on some of your videos that your a sell out and bmw pay you blah blah. Like can you not jus tell by watching these videos how passionate this guy is about what he does and how much effort gets put in smh.
Hey Joe, great review. The price increase may be due to BMW running out of the parts for the standard dials and screen. All 1 series come with the full digital dials and larger screen as standard right now, and they have upped the price as a result. Check the configurator. Some of us have been lucky by ordering earlier with the standard dials and now getting upgraded to the full digital dials for free. My dealer confirmed this to me last week.
The standard dials are terrible. Sadly most used 1 series seem to have them.
Great video Joe ! Anyone any thoughts on comparing this to a 3door mini hatch JCW . I'm thinking of ordering a 128Ti instead of the JCW. I have a cooper S just now and love the way it drives. the JCW and this appear to have similar power figures. Just wondering about the enjoyment and driver involvement and what you would pick? the JCW is well specked with similar kit so payments are similar - would really appreciate any feed back on this question please
Love the video classic Joe Achilles. Oh yeah baby spend it haha, M-lite New BMW 135i owners going to be annoyed with that line: “biggest smile on your face in the 128ti vs 135i” Great video mate.
Awesome mate 🇦🇺
My M135i with paint and pro pack £411 down £411 a month. I did get a very good discount though.
This car really interests me but I bought a F60 JCW a little while back. As it’s a second car in our household size isn’t an issue (traded in my 218D Coupe). Is it as fun to drive as a Mini ? I imagine the suspension makes it a more comfortable daily but my Mini is mainly driven for pleasure these days. Not forgetting you can get a manual in the Mini.
I’m loving mine, picked it up a couple of days before Xmas....Got it in black with some nice extras....
Great to hear!
Cheers Joe and thanks for another 128ti video, it’s nice to see the car getting positive comments from guys like yourself..Love your channel. All the best, Paul...
This is number 1 on my my list. @luappaintball - what extras did you spec?
@@thoughtfuldog5424 - Hello, 19’inch alloys, 128ti Pro Pack, Tech Pack, The digital dash & black leather..Got a nice discount on the price from my local BMW dealership...
Hi how do you find the fuel consumption on yours ?
this car is surprisingly good 👌🏾👍🏾
Most new merc and bmw have to grow on you just like new m3 its growing on me especially in dark colours and a few trimings 135i with bodykit in sick and i also love merc a45 amg but as always merc pips it on interior
Nice review mate, just picked up mine yesterday. Only strange thing is that you don’t have a digital cockpit... Is that something other for the UK than in f.e. Belgium?
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Rumour has it that you knock one out to anything Joe Achilles related at least once a day 💦
Weird youtube unsubbed me from your channel, but put you in recommended. I subbed way back when you collaberated with LLF with the nob T-shirt.
I wish this car was on the market 2 years ago. I bought a 1 series shadow edition 120d xdrive and cost me more than the 128ti. This car seems excellent value and fun to drive
Love the car,thanks.
Nice review, agree re manual option here - shame as it would seem to suit this sort of car.
I agree with comment on M135, during my test drive I felt very un-engaging, I even said that to the BMW salesman, I told him i was actually dissapointed in it - no feeling from it at all. Especially following my Focus RS
cant wait to see 2022 update :)
Come on then Joe, I’m nearly three years into my M140i deal. Would you swap that for the M135i or the ti?
We need more cars like this. 0-100 as the currency for bragging rights only makes sense to a point. Virtually any car for sale today will get the job done. Is the car fun to drive, along with meeting your practical needs and environmental sensibilities? That's the better question.
Yes you can option the M Sport bucket seats
Both the Civic Type R and the Hyundai i30 N are FWD cars that crack the 6 sec mark to 60... but point taken...
Loved the bit where you pointed out the body accents, you looked like one of the birds on Play your cards right
‘Higher or lower for the car’
This made me laugh also haha 🤣
Just took delivery of my 128ti. Also have Leon Cupra 300… 128 suspension feels way bouncy compared to even Cupra mode on Leon… 128 seats more comfortably and sound system standard is great. Biggest let down is the exhaust sound or lack of on the 128. Cupra pops and burbles
TBH id get the M135i for the AWD in bad weather in the UK if I wanted a smallish hatchback.
Why has nobody done a 128ti vs M135i race video I can’t find one anywhere it’s baffling .So curious to see the gap
Australian version gets the 120i engine not your higher power unit as it fits better in our range here - still a great car I think yet lots of competition in this class and X2 looks better I think 🤔
Just can’t get my head around the front of the current 1 series.. what would be excellent would the the front of the M2, and the rear of this 1 series.. you’ll see every selling their hot hatches to get this blend..
Great video Joe. By any chance did you note the tyre pressures? I’ve read a few folk say that the tyres are over inflated at 2.7 bar which makes the ride a little harsh.
I just got my nearly new m125i and that perhaps explains a bit - my fronts are 2.7ish and my rears are 2.3. What should they be?
I understand why BMW had to make this, and had to make the M135i.
I don't like either, but I understand why.
As a life long BMW fan, the hot hatch I most desire now, is the Merc A45s.
The M2C is the only BMW I desire, well that and the M5 which will never be in my budget.
Joe is the first person to accept a MINI with a BMW badge might not be a bad thing. I love that BMW is taking the fight to VW and Mercedes with a fun and hot compact and if they sold this in the US I'd buy it 100%
Financially, it's a bit of a bargain compared to it's competition right now - BMW offering very nice contributions and if you have something to part-ex (like I do with my 2016 Swift) you can probably squeeze it in under £300pcm. That's a lot of car for the money. Compare the interior quality to the likes of the new GTI, Megane RS or i30n and it's night and day. No silly rev limiter shenanigans too!
Like the 128ti a lot.
i love the red accents on that car
Saw 1 of these 3 weeks ago and it looked good but i would get that nagging feeling if I owned 1 I should have gone for the m135, not driven the 128ti so maybe it is as good as the m135 which I have reviewed
I oddly quite like these and prefer them to the new M135i; it seems to have a bit more sense of fun.
It looks like BMW have a car that can really take the fight to the Golf GTI. I’d have one of these over the Mk8 no question; it still has questionable looks like the Golf but has a far better interior and by all accounts is a very old car to drive.
I like this car. Does it have the artificial engine sound in the cabin?
I bought the new 35i and I have to say it looks way nicer in person and it drives like a dream and I know it has the same shell as the ti but the ti looks cheap and tacky especially with the red bits and ti written on the skirts. Either way why wouldn't you just buy the 35i ? Its pretty much the same price and looks way nicer. I had the previous shape 120i b48 engine pushing 320hp and if I was being completely honest I really prefer the new car, drive is completely different of course but all round I'd say new is the way forward.
Is that front left under inflated in the opening shot or just heavily weighted from parking on the grass?
Actually did a rolling race this week in my 135 against my pals 128 and there wasn’t that much in it, maybe a car length by 70mph 👍
Old 6cyl 135?
@@thepodbaydoorshal no the new f40 pal
you can option the M Sports Semi Bucket Seat
Picked mine up on Wednesday! Absolutely class car, I'm finding any excuse to drive it!
What do you guys think of the bmw motech m135i xdrive?
I can't get my head around the loss of the 6cyl for a 4 I loved my 135 and 140 and drove my F80 and F87 with numerous 140's and they always left me thinking my cars aren't 30 to 42k better I don't think I'd have the same feeling with these new 1 series mini m cars.
Joe you've had them all what are your thoughts.
They had to lose the 6 cylinder unfortunately because of emissions. But they didnt need to lose the rwd drivetrain. That's the shutter for me. But agree with you pal
@@prits5976 we really are on the Dawn of loosing amazing cars forever I never thought it'd happen
@@Be22ThePig buy the older stuff while you can lad
@@prits5976 Had a stunning YMB F80 pretty much fully loaded comp with full great leather.
Sold it thinking I'd get the new G80 M3, then saw it was just an M5, beautiful but not what I want n spec I wanted was like 86k.
So I bought one of the last M2 Comps fully loaded, so far I love it.
@@Be22ThePig nice. I really like the g80 its gunna shit all over audi and merc equivalent.
M2 is a great car too.
I have my poster car, an e46 m3. Not the csl that was on the wall but I have a lovely low miler and have a carbon airbox to go on.
Thinking to add an e92 or an e63 m6 to the stable
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Hi Iam Matt Watson from car wow,and today we have a brace of BMW's
Iam in the m135i
And next to me in the 128ti,is Joe Achilles😃
Pick mine up in Aug 🥳
Hyundai have yet to release their new 120N which is due out this summer with only manual availability. Could be a cheaper and more thrilling alternative??
The i20N is a smaller car, maybe a competitor for the GR Yaris or Polo GTI. The i30N is a direct competitor to the Golf GTI, this BMW and the other FWD hatches. And as far as i know, it comes with a 8 speed DCT or a 6 speed manual transmission. The pre facelift version costs 32k € here in Romania, including discounts. 🤔 So yeah, it is cheaper.