I remember watching the first few episodes and absolutely hating Logan. Then I spoiled it for myself and learned he was going to be her love interest and thought wtf, EW. HOW. And now they're my fave people.
Character development: We all know during this Logan was just hurt and try to be strong cuz of how Lily's death and Aaron's cruelty toward Logan affected him,deep down he cared for other people aside from Veronica:Look how he cared for Dick when he told Logan about his brother's suic!de. I think Logan was tryna mask the pain.
We were supposed to hate him. I spoiled it for myself too, but I also found out it was not in the original plan. But, RT saw something and turned the whole story around because he wanted to put the two together after seeing them on screen together. He wrote their story all because of that. Jason said when he first found out it was hard to even touch Kirsten the first time in a scene because they had been written to hate each other at first.
I could never understand how early on, like in this scene, Logan wasn't a fighter. But later on in the season Logan was turned into this big tough guy who gets into all these fights.
Weevil: Did you just smashed my girl veronicas headlights? What's interesting is because of Logan's arrogance his friends car got smashed. Guess Logan's is happy he didn't drive his car over.
Weevil would definitely have handed him his yellow SUV back in a box. I remember in one hilarious episode, his biker buddies were furious about someone ripping them off. They got a hold of the guy's car and took it to a friend's junkyard where they crushed it into a neat cube and left it on his doorstep!
I just want to make it clear that I kind of hate early Logan, and I think Veronica should have made him pay way, way, way more before he was forgiven for any of the psychotic bullshit he pulled (probably would have meant less pain for him too, in the long run, if they had acknowledged that he was the cause of like 30% of her trust issues and he'd had to earn her forgiveness, because then he might have actually *been* forgiven), but I kind of love that when Weevil's gang shows up, Logan steps up to meet them, looking ready to face off, and then looks all confused when Weevil is actually mad about them smashing her car. He didn't think they were there for him, he thought Weevil had a score to settle with Veronica, and his immediate response was to put himself between them, even when he thought he hated her.
PurpleCheesecake I can't help but think back to this scene when you find out with Veronica during the scene with Trina in the hotel with Logan that Logan's dad was abusive. And in the later episodes where we see Logan gets beaten n is scared of his dad. Sort of makes you wonder what that joke of veronica's actually DID cost Logan when he got Home that night. No wonder he was pissed at her.
Kirsty McConnell I was thinking the same thing. When you first watch this episode you think "spoiled prick" but when you finish watching them and find out what his dad was like you can't help but understand why Logan reacted the way he did. You don't know how badly his dad hurt him over that
i never got that either! weevil is a tough guy but its not like logan was scared of him when he got into the fight with him in the bathroom and he faced him and his crew all at once before. its like they changed him later on in the series because he turned into more of a good guy.
16 years later and I still ship Weevil and Veronica. I liked the character growth that Logan had…. But I will forever see Weevil and Veronica as the OTP.
Good lord I remember the first time I say this. Francis Capra raises the bar and makes us believe... Weevil should have a spin off. Still think so...
JulyN78 i would LOVE a Weevil spinoff.
Still saddens me that there are VM related spinoffs. I'd like to see something about Mac or Weevil after the series ended.
go weevil he becomes protective of her after this :P
Man I wish Weevil got a happily ever after.
He did, sort of. In the movie. The end of the movie hints that things are about to go south for Weevil but one can still hope.
Well, since new episodes are coming to hulu, and he is supposed to come back, he might get a good ending!
I think they treat Weevil so badly. He being arrested in front of his gramma, his daughter being away...
I remember watching the first few episodes and absolutely hating Logan. Then I spoiled it for myself and learned he was going to be her love interest and thought wtf, EW. HOW. And now they're my fave people.
Same hahaha
Character development: We all know during this Logan was just hurt and try to be strong cuz of how Lily's death and Aaron's cruelty toward Logan affected him,deep down he cared for other people aside from Veronica:Look how he cared for Dick when he told Logan about his brother's suic!de. I think Logan was tryna mask the pain.
We were supposed to hate him. I spoiled it for myself too, but I also found out it was not in the original plan. But, RT saw something and turned the whole story around because he wanted to put the two together after seeing them on screen together. He wrote their story all because of that. Jason said when he first found out it was hard to even touch Kirsten the first time in a scene because they had been written to hate each other at first.
I used to hate Logan at the beginning...who would've thought he'll became my favorite male tv character
ah, foreplay
I could never understand how early on, like in this scene, Logan wasn't a fighter. But later on in the season Logan was turned into this big tough guy who gets into all these fights.
Weevil: Did you just smashed my girl veronicas headlights?
What's interesting is because of Logan's arrogance his friends car got smashed. Guess Logan's is happy he didn't drive his car over.
Weevil would definitely have handed him his yellow SUV back in a box. I remember in one hilarious episode, his biker buddies were furious about someone ripping them off. They got a hold of the guy's car and took it to a friend's junkyard where they crushed it into a neat cube and left it on his doorstep!
Never noticed until today Felix opening the car door for the 09ers to leave.
awww FELIX! I love felix, he was one of my favorites in the series...
Funny to think that they became one of the most EPIC couples on TV!
i love weevil, but it's funny how logan kicks so much ass throughout the series and looks so weak here. then again, i wouldn't hit weevil back either
Veronica Mars is awesome!
Veronica mars was a great tv show and lt will always be a great tv show
I just want to make it clear that I kind of hate early Logan, and I think Veronica should have made him pay way, way, way more before he was forgiven for any of the psychotic bullshit he pulled (probably would have meant less pain for him too, in the long run, if they had acknowledged that he was the cause of like 30% of her trust issues and he'd had to earn her forgiveness, because then he might have actually *been* forgiven), but I kind of love that when Weevil's gang shows up, Logan steps up to meet them, looking ready to face off, and then looks all confused when Weevil is actually mad about them smashing her car. He didn't think they were there for him, he thought Weevil had a score to settle with Veronica, and his immediate response was to put himself between them, even when he thought he hated her.
PurpleCheesecake agree
PurpleCheesecake I can't help but think back to this scene when you find out with Veronica during the scene with Trina in the hotel with Logan that Logan's dad was abusive. And in the later episodes where we see Logan gets beaten n is scared of his dad. Sort of makes you wonder what that joke of veronica's actually DID cost Logan when he got Home that night. No wonder he was pissed at her.
Kirsty McConnell I was thinking the same thing. When you first watch this episode you think "spoiled prick" but when you finish watching them and find out what his dad was like you can't help but understand why Logan reacted the way he did. You don't know how badly his dad hurt him over that
Typical, make excuses for the white dude no wonder they are so entitled, still hate Logan
i never got that either! weevil is a tough guy but its not like logan was scared of him when he got into the fight with him in the bathroom and he faced him and his crew all at once before. its like they changed him later on in the series because he turned into more of a good guy.
AWESOME SHOW !!!
Weak?! What are you smoking? He did not back down even though he knows Weevil is in a gang. That's far from weak. Logan was never a coward.
Logans fail attempt at spinning the crowbar.
Weevil should have ended up with Veronica.
16 years later and I still ship Weevil and Veronica. I liked the character growth that Logan had…. But I will forever see Weevil and Veronica as the OTP.
That's what you call foreplay, kids : )
reminds me of the scene from HP when james tries to make snape say sorry to lilly, anyone else think so?
Decent scene 👌👏👍
Weevil and Veronica fremimeis all Along
I always wanted a Wallace in my life.
good thing weevil and the pchers come
Really hate the eraly Logan but then fucking LoVe him