The Cast of Veronica Mars Talks Season 4, Inside Jokes and Good Place/Bad Place
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Are you team #Logan? #KristenBell, Francis Capra, Enrico Colantoni, Jason Dohring, Rob Thomas, Ryan Hansen, Percy Daggs III and Kirby Howell Baptiste stop by the IMDboat during SDCC to talk about the all new season of #VeronicaMars and what it's like to be reunited. Put on the spot by Kevin Smith at San Diego Comic-Con 2019, Kristen Bell only has seconds to decide which characters on "Veronica Mars" should go to "The Good Place" or the "Bad Place."
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The Season 4 ending was a rude awakening that we actually live in The Bad Place. If we lived in The Good Place, it would have ended differently.
If Logan doesn't "Jon Snow" himself in season 5 I HOPE THERE's NO SEASON 5 cause if that's the end of Logan than it's the end of "VM" show and we have to deal with it
Love your use of "jon snow" as a verb... Let's make it a thing...
Yes there can't be a season 5 without Logan Echols!! He was a great actor!
Totally agree!!!!
Eh, disagree. I think the ending was beautiful and honestly a good ending overall to the show. However if it continued, I wouldn't be mad. Logan isn't that integral to the show. As long as we have Keith and Veronica, that's enough to make it good.
Am i the only one that flinched when Rob says we blow them up you’ll love it... No Rob we won’t love it when you blow a certain person up.
Nikki Thornton it's possible I've never been so devastated by a tv show as I have by this. I simply cannot understand it.
That scene broke my heart and pissed me tf off
I say they make it into a twist where the military uses it as a way to fake his death because of some security threat and when the threat is gone bring him back.
Omg!!! I hope so!!!
Every time Rob talks I cringe. And I felt like i could feel Jason wincing when talking about his character. Those last 10 minutes I feel like literally ruined the series for me. I just watched it last night so still a little raw 😑
I was 8 years old. I just moved into a house with my mom and brother after homelessness. We slept on a mattress on the floor of our livingroom until we get beds and I remember my mum and I watching Veronica Mars. Amazing part of my childhood
We need Jason Dohring to do a guest spot on Good Place as a demon love interest
Dia Wong yessssssssss!!!!!!
Will sell kidney to see this
A little late for that but yess that would have been amazing
Oh dreams.
i would’ve done anything to see this
Go away rob! You broke my heart ❤️
I watched this show overwhelmingly for Logan and the relationship development between he and Veronica. His incredible
turnaround in the new season was inspirational and it would have been amazing to watch
the dance he and Veronica would do together each making the other
better, sharpening each other physically, emotionally, professionally.
There is SO MUCH to explore there in a procedural context and it is
hardly ever explored. I would have thought this writer was up to the
challenge to do that and still stay true to personality and types but
obviously he is a coward and sold out to what has worked for other shows
in the past. Maybe that was the only way to receive further funding
from HULU. Who knows, but I for one won't be watching. And if the other
comments I read are any indication, he cut off his nose to spite his
face. Sad, very sad!
the ending of season 4 made zero sense. you build up all these tensions and conflicts just to finally come to a resolution and then immediately take it all away. truly terrible and honestly a slap in the face to all the fans so dedicated to the show
I was also kinda sad about the ending. But I think it was to remind us that this show is a noir. We thought we were gonna get a happy ending and then it was like, PsYch--remember its a noir. you're supposed to feel depressed at the end of a noir, and bad things are supposed to happen for no reason.
Erin Abigail that's how I feel too. It was cruel and unfair. I'm out.
I like it because it makes me think Leo and V address meant to be. That's why that scene with the three of them together is so monumental for me.
BlueBubble9 this is true but with it being Veronica Mars I feel there’s a chance he’s not even dead we didn’t see his body it reminds me of what happened to Keith🤷🏽♂️
My favourite show. My dad told me about it when I was about 16 and I got to mature with it. Every time I go back and rewatch it I get something more out of it, and it’s really great sharing it with others. I even got my grandpa to watch it with me and he became immediately invested.
I am so In LOVE with Veronica Mars. I'm so glad I was able to catch all episodes on Hulu!!!
This season was amazing and exactly what I wanted it to be. Except of the cussing ending!!! I will keep watching forever but why just why. I heard your reasoning Rob, I love you but it's not enough. It could have been done in others ways, why like this. whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
What a slap in the face to all the fans who supported and wanted veronica mars back. I'm done with this show.
So I only started watching this show the end of June because it was on one of the streaming services I have and I absolutely loved it. I loved the movie as well and was so looking forward to this revival, I only had to wait like a couple weeks from when I finished watching the whole show. The ending of this revival though made me really sad, like I was actually crying. The roller coaster that is Logan and Veronica was insane
Rob must have something hidden, because I cannot understand that ending
Ana Luz Herbel it’s Rob Thomas he always has some sort of misdirection or twist, I feel like the story hasn’t ended yet and there is more of the picture to revealed especially pertaining to Logan.
Nikki Thornton he said no
I word. Leo
“we’re gonna blow them up, you’ll love it” LMAO Rob
I'm rewatching the series now, and I don't understand how the writers thought it was a good idea to kill Logan off and have Veronica leave all of her friends and Neptune behind. Veronica Mars was amazing herself, but Veronica Mars, the show wasn't just Veronica, it was Neptune and the class dynamics and crime, it was her friends and her dad, it was those bonds and connections that made it all work so well. Separating Veronica from all of her friends n family, making her the underdog again and ruining her happiness just to take her back to season one when when she was mostly alone, unhappy and vengeful, feels disrespectful to the journey and the growth she had throughout Veronica Mars. The end of season 4 felt like it was destroying all the hard work of the previous seasons, bringing Veronica back to a bad place again. I guess that was the point and what the writers want, but it feels like a disservice to all that came before.
It seems like a lot of you people only watched because of Veronica and Logan.... honestly there is a ton of other interesting characters on this show I don’t know if y’all have noticed. And the plot, the crime she and her dad has to solve which is kind of the point of the show. It’s not a romance movie and even if it was those have tragic endings to sometimes.
This is coming from someone who loved Logan to btw
Ps. With his whole navy intelligence super secret career I was more surprised that he didn’t get killed off while he was away on some mission, that’s what doesn’t make sense to me. They just forgot the backpack in the car? Com on!
Son disappointed by the ending!! Veronica DESERVES a happy ending with Logan!!! They went through so much it’s ridiculous to end this that way. They better not make a new season it would not make sense !!!
I really liked Jason and Dick in this this season :(
7:15 Kristen talks a mile a second haha
Yeah well you killed that show real fast with that ending. Just saying.
Yes!!!!!! My sister and I were like WHAT??!!
"Logan might get into the good place"
WHAT!?
But why did they kill Logan?!!!
I wish people would talk about something else other than the ending. It was a great season
It was such a great season! They totally threw all their hard work out the window with that trash ending!
i was sad at the ending ... but mostly sad because it was the last episode and no more mars investigations for a while ...
maybe that was the last of logan ... maybe logan will be in a coma carrying duncan's baby ... dont care either way as long as we get more vmars asap ... (rob ... get typing)
But guys, are we sure he is dead DEAD? Like, there's no way they are going to bring him back next season and do a kind of Michael from Jane the Virgin thing?
Yes we are sure. It was confirmed in an interview, Jason says "I'm dead."
Just saying some people liked the ending and don’t want it to end
A long time ago...
I have a crush on Enrico Colantoni
Sending an *EMPTY* open bag of marshmallows to HULU offices with a large note inside: *"FED up. Will not be watching."*
I hate you Rob Thomas. I haven't stopped crying. That didn't even make sense it was bs
I hate that Logan died in that last episode it would be nice that Veronica finds out she's pregnant after that
Except he doesn't write complex women well.
Se 5 plz
'Play It Again, Dick'
Ah, grow up, fans. That ending was good. SAD. BUT GOOD. You're cannot take sad? On a tv show? Really? With everything that's been going on in this world since..... forever?
Also. I need Leo in the next season!))
Yeah super shocked at the ending but I’m sure Leo is coming back for another season. Too much chemistry between the two of them.:)
Why is everyone in the comments upset?
Soap Scenes did you watch all the episodes?
@@GHfan4life I have now...yeah I get it.
3:07… well the fans won’t keep coming back now after what you did! You know what you did 😥🤭
good ending. now weevil has a chance.
I know I'm going to probably get a lot of hate for saying this but I'm actually kinda okay with them killing off Logan because the way they did it least room for maybe a spinoff or even with Veronica Mars goes out to different places to solve cases stuff like that
But who wants to see that? People loved the show for the characters and her relationships with them
I hear both of your sides of points but some people that just now are watching the show r not going to understand the history behind the characters if they don't watch the first 3 Seasons I watch those seasons multiple times love all the characters I'm just saying that's what it felt to me is what they were trying to do by killing off one of the main characters
Ugh. Kevin Smith is the worst.
Stop whining, logan isn't dead, yes dramatic ending. Rob has his reasons of doing it that way, I am pretty sure he will be in season 5. It be stupid of the writers to kill him off, after everything that happened between Veronica, and Logan.
thanks for killing Logan.
He’s better in a coma and not dead, we didn’t see him die, no funeral, nobody explicitly said he was dead. So I have hope... please
I’m with you. I’m choosing to live in denial.
from what I read in interviews, rob thomas said he was clearly dead. there's not coming back.
doesnt she say like something about on her way to visit him at the end? I assumed him was logan.. man i really hope season 5 shows up!
@lipsohlips97 "visit" could mean an hospital or a cemetery
@@lisaedwards9861 Yep!!!
I watched this show overwhelmingly for Logan and the relationship development between he and Veronica. His incredible
turnaround in the new season was inspirational and it would have been amazing to watch
the dance he and Veronica would do together each making the other
better, sharpening each other physically, emotionally, professionally.
There is SO MUCH to explore there in a procedural context and it is
hardly ever explored. I would have thought this writer was up to the
challenge to do that and still stay true to personality and types but
obviously he is a coward and sold out to what has worked for other shows
in the past. Maybe that was the only way to receive further funding
from HULU. Who knows, but I for one won't be watching. And if the other
comments I read are any indication, he cut off his nose to spite his
face. Sad, very sad!
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Is Rob the most hated person on the planet right now?
Dude's a complete fucking hack who doesn't understand his audience whatsoever.
Super hated.
eva2s he is a 100%
Lol I don't hate him! I hate how he wrote the ending!
There is hope that they could bring him back.
I agree I'm sure I'm not the only fan to be extremely upset with that ending. I understand some people aren't going to always be happy with endings, but I feel there is no justice or reasoning to what happened.
Maybe just maybe if they had been given a season 4 right after number 3 finished and they decided to break them apart in favor of Piz or Leo then maybe it might have possibly been acceptable. Maybe. But the fact that most of the original fans had in the back of their minds that they were together since the movie and before that the shows ending was left in such a way that you kind of knew they would end up together that ends up being a really epic “lives ruined, blood shed, spanning decades” story. This ending just takes a big steaming dump on all of it.
STOP being so dramatic about something that clearly didn't happen! God, really, it's like you people have never seen a TV show...
@@iamsultana Agreed. They obviously are children with no love lives of their own and lived vicariously through "LoVe" hahah
Heartbreaking end, really :,(
You're not! I'm also shocked and upset. Mad and sad...
Seen season 4, was good till the end. Can't figure out how they forgot about the backpack. they'd have turned it over to the police and they sure as hell wouldn't have taken it home with them
True. Especially considering all the times something random popped in her head for her to crack a case or something that ended up being something so small and insignificant.
I know, right?!!!
Rob has NO IDEA what he brought on himself. The fans are not happy with his "explosive" ending and this choice will be his undoing.
The interviewer was so spot on when he said that "the soap operatic nature never got in the way of the show". Rob says "I want to make it a pure mystery and not have half teen soap and half mystery, I want to make this an adult show". Guess what? Marriage and dealing with marriage is what adults do. There was never a teen soap aspect that got in the way of the show. Even in season 4, when LoVe was "perfect", they weren't. They still had their own issues to work through. Showing us how they work through that - that's adulthood. Rob says he wants the next seasons to be a "whodunnit" trapped in a big house, away from Neptune, fine - let LoVe hit the road together!! There was ZERO reason to do that to our beloved Logan. Veronica and the mysteries she solves are not the only reason we love the show. We love the universe that's been created. We love the relationships, the characters. Making it ONLY about Veronica shows us you don't really know what we want...
Kevin (aka Silent Bob) is brilliant even as an interviewer
Veronica Mars is a Noir. Tragedy and Cynicism is common place in Noir.
Exactly! There was aloooot of others plotssss they could do!!! Like the psicological ones! Whyyy
those last 5 minutes didn't happen...
I really Hate Season 4 Theme Song they should of kept it the way it was.
IDK why they changed it I couldn't sing along which makes me so mad 😡 but the show was good until the last episode 😢😔
It was horrible I had to mute it and play those original song in my head
Perhaps they could not get the rights to it!
I haven’t watched season 4 yet, but I’m surprised they even put in a theme song... and I was even questioning if there was gonna be a theme song or not.. But it’s Hulu.. when have they ever put a theme song to any show? 😂
Jasmane Franklin no the show was good until the last five minutes
That 'twist' was lazy writing; nothing more than a cheap attempt to shock the audience and be lazy. The arguments the writer has given and that the actors are reluctantly repeating to justify it only demonstrate the carelessness with which the decision was made.
This!!! I agree. It would have been more interesting if it didn't happen. I also felt like he doesn't understand adult women. He said in an interview that it would be weird for her to be a 35 year old private investigator and still have a boyfriend at home. Marriage is not the only route for all women. And I rather them break up than have this happen. Lazy indeed.
Veronica Mars needs a new show runner who knows what they're doing. Diane Ruggiero seems great. Rob Thomas has lost his damn mind.
I can't deal. Theres no reason to keep this show going without its principle characters. I can't. Veronica isn't the only reason we tune in for the show.
HE deserved better ... WE deserved better
MsRainbow Brite who???
@@laylay5032 you really want a spoiler?
MsRainbow Brite I guess I found out, it’s Logan right?
@@laylay5032 yes
After growing Logan as a character and getting the audience to root for him and his development from teen jackass to a great adult who serves as Veronica’s rock and then make that his ending is unforgivable in my opinion. I feel like I grew up with these characters and it’s so hard to rewatch old episodes now knowing it’s his end. And also to watch Veronica’s story when she’s had very little growth and has heartbreak after heartbreak thrown at her it’s just not inspiring anymore. I’d like to think her story ended with her being happy with her sole mate and still being a badass PI that gets justice for others. I just don’t understand how that couldn’t have been her story and their story. It makes me sad because I really care about these characters since I was a teenager. It’s unfair that thus us their ending and I think it’s lazy on RT’s part to think that this is the only place he could take them
Just strolling along, found this video on RUclips...BAM! Flood of messages about that ending and the severely mixed reactions people had to it.
I'm a HUGE LoVe fan, no doubt. I've shipped them since before shipping was a thing as well. Primarily because it was an incredibly complex and romantic relationship that involved serious character growth on both sides. And the way Logan was portrayed in season 4 was unbelievably good. Logan has always had a penchant for sort of drawing Veronica -- something the movie made extremely clear -- and has had a hold on her since the pilot even. So to watch Jay play Logan still doing that, but sort of drawing Veronica into a relationship that can be solid and balanced and decent and grown up was awesome. Because Logan in season 4 has grown up, matured, worked through his demons. And he sort of spends the season forcing Veronica to confront her own. Which was a big part of why I loved season 4.
Right up until the end. All you wackos out there saying that we're just rabid fans all dramatic over our heartbreak at the end of season 4, I'm going to give you a valid reason the ending is more than painful -- it just freaking sucks. Because all of that growth and complex storytelling is COMPLETELY UNDERMINED by *SPOILER ALERT* Logan's death. At the end, that voicemail Logan leaves Jane and says that he wants to marry Veronica because she's tough and he wants to be like her...I mean sure. That's probably a little bit true. But Veronica is damaged. Logan is damaged. That was the connection that allowed LoVe to grow. But Logan worked on it, and like Kris says, Veronica ends up being the stagnant one. So Logan just sort of nudges and pushes and occasionally fights with her so she'll confront her own demons, so she can grow up too. And at the end, his death and it happening 2 seconds after their wedding and then BAM! He just puts her on a pedestal and it's like...what's the point?
What dead what? The movie? I remember they were working on it! How he died!
Shavana Baker YES!!!! Why let them get married?? It made it worse. I wish they'd never made more.
It's not really mixed reactions. It's like 99% extremely negative and enraged/heartbroken. Rob Thomas screwed up severely.
Gosh I couldn't agree more w/ you. The ending was so messed up. Logan is the most developed character in the show, and the way Jason portraying him just adds lots more charm to it. What doesn't add up is, Rob wrote Logan's development marvellously, even though yeah he screwed him up halfway season 3, but then the movie made up for all the mess, even in season 4, he gave him depth to his character, yet somehow he decided to end it like that, with lame reasoning he gave to the media... what the hell? I think Kristen Bell had a lot to do with what happened since season 4 was heavily backed up by her. and I'm sure I'm not alone by saying Logan is a stronger and better character than Veronica. he evolves, and Veronica not so much. it's possible that Kristen doesn't like that. and the need to kill him off just to give Veronica a major character development is just lazy and bitter as hell. Jason probably was throwing a shade when he said, "You're saying I was a mistake?" in this interview...
Rob Thomas - you disappoint! You better do some fancy footwork in writing a fix for the big screw up of an ending. Otherwise, don't bother with a season 5... This fan won't be back!!
Kappa Luppa many of the fans won’t be back unfortunately. I have many friends who were immensely dissatisfied with the ending.
Listening to Jason talk just tears me apart now. 😭
Roni Roshni they didn’t show him die, they didn’t show him at the end....they left a hole open so if they get picked up for another season they can bring him back. There was a year long gap with no explanation, anything can happen in a year...that’s what I keep telling myself to hope the ending isn’t as clear cut as it looks.
@@haleymitchell9482 he's dead and buried. Sorry, there's no bringing him back.
9melissal oh? So you saw his funeral? You saw them burry him? Because I sure as hell didn’t 🤷🏼♀️
@@haleymitchell9482 Rob Thomas said he's definitely dead. Sooo
Haley Mitchell yea i have a bit of hope too. i think it would be cool if he just showed up at her door and told her he was in the hospital recovering from injuries, and then got deployed, so he couldn’t talk to her, and then just shows up and they live happily ever after
Please bring back Logan alive for the new season of Veronica Mars! The ending is not acceptable! It's too dramatic like in a soap opera! Logan should be involved more in solving crimes together with Veronica!
I honestly don't want a 5th season after that ending....
Maybe you should. :)
i only want season five if logan is back, like they can make it a dream, or he was in the hospital and didn’t want to see her until he was fully recovered, but yea if not i don’t want more
What Kristen said here about this being for the fans or because of the fans.......no, no it's not. The movie was for the fans. This was painful and horrible and unnecessary. The Marshmallows are crushed. And Rob, I hope your daughter knows that the "show you made for her" shows that you can't be happy and choose your own path. All these years for that. I can't get past it.
Exactly. Kristen saying that it's for the fans is bs. With this ending everyone is just sad especially with the very much lacking reasoning behind it.
Yep. Hearing him talk about his daughter was sickening since his message to women is that in order to be interesting and strong you have to endure endless trauma and can't embrace femininity or fun and can't have healthy relationships even after YEARS of dysfunction
This is exactly how I feel. Spot on.
Really Kristen? Weevil goes to the good place but Logan isn’t good enough for the good place yet? Also Logan wasn’t bad in season 3 at all or even much of season 2. Just season 1 really
I'm listening to this and wondering whyyyyyyyyyyy?! Why, Rob, why?!
I'm not even being dramatic. If another season comes out I am not even remotely interested in watching it.
@@taraa5792 I agree but at the same time I can't help but to think and hope Logan will come back because it wasn't shown him dying.
RIGHT! You didn’t see a body........ and also in a different interview with Jason Dohring, he says “There’s ways to bring people back in various ways,” sooooooo
*SPOILER ALERT* (Although, I don't think it's a secret any more...)
Here is how to fix it... We find out that Logan was severely injured, near death, but not dead. He is holding on by a thread, near brain dead. V can't handle it. She stays by his side as long as she can, but she can't handle seeing him so damaged, and she runs [her weakness, her inner turmoil]. She is sleuthing the evildoers and for all intents and purposes leaves him, using her investigation as her excuse. While she's off digging for clues and solving other mysteries he slowly begins his recovery. He comes back, but not fully - yet. He soon realizes that she gave up on him and he can't fully forgive that. He gains strides to a strong recovery, maybe loses functioning in some way (arm, leg, etc.). But he just can't deal with the fact she didn't believe in him. He says wish we hadn't gotten married. There's your challenged V and we have Logan back. Now Logan is actually continuing to be a better person than Veronica. Will they stay married, will Logan meet a wonderful therapist and fall in love, will V continue with therapy. Was it all a dream and there was never an explosion...
Or... he wasn't in the car at all! He was taken hostage or disoriented and wandered... something!!
Now go fix season 5!!!
i know this comment is a year old but this idea for season 5 is amazing.
please write the rest of the show.
the ending was horrible why does it have to end it that way
I was also kinda sad about the ending. But I think it was to remind us that this show is a noir. We thought we were gonna get a happy ending and then it was like, PsYch--remember its a noir. you're supposed to feel depressed at the end of a noir, and bad things are supposed to happen for no reason.
BlueBubble9 I can’t even watch the original show anymore cus it just makes me sad
What is everyone talking about????? What ending?? Did season 4 come out? I thought it’s coming out July 26
Lux it dropped a week early. Go watch now!
Mixitup. Bam by the sound of it everyone hated it
Not interesting in season 5 anymore. You destroy the show
They ruined it. Can't watch it without Logan. VM is incomplete.
agreed
the fans won't come back this time... at least not most of us :/
Yawa Rafhael yup
The end of an era. Thanks, Rob for destroying your show and the hopes and dreams of all your fans. Bring.Back.Logan! Let’s just ignore the last 10 minutes of the last episode and do a rewrite.
LOL Did KB even hear herself? The reason VMars keeps being able to come back is bc of the fans. Well killing off Logan is a sure fire way to not get to come back. Lost most of your fans by doing that. Definitely know you lost this one.
Cant watch this episode 4. My level of dissappointment is no one can measure. No Logan, no watching
I don't know if I'm reading too much into this. But Kristen and Jason look really sad. The only one beaming through the video is Rob. Totally unaware he's ruined everyone's favourite show.
I have been watching Veronica Mars since I was like 7, and I mean watching and rewatching at least three times a year. It was my cure for boredom for the past ten years to the extent I can quote full scenes from the show and name who said what line or who did what in what season/episode. I love all of these actors and this show has been a major part of my life for a good bit of time. Kind of off topic but Kristen Bell has been a major roll model in my life for a long damn time and I absolutely adore her. Within the theme of being attached to this show for a greatly extended period of time Jason Dohring's character, Logan Echolls, has not only been my ideal dude because of his caring soft center and tough "I don't need anyone *ᵖˡᵉᵃˢᵉ ˡᵒᵛᵉ ᵐᵉ* " exterior, but he has also held this place in my heart where I just adore him a tad farther than my vocabulary will let me express. That all being said, I don't know if I can truly describe how distraught I was post-watching the last episode of season 4. I was horrified. I was like, "JASON- oH MY GOD LOGAN NO FUCKIN' WAY" and then sobbed hysterically for like fifteen minutes only to erase the episode from my memory and now, several months later I was like "damn I forgot how season four ended, I need to rewatch it." Im sensing at this point you've realized my dilemma, my heart RE-broke. I want to make a petiton to Rob where he just makes Logan in like some coma or something so I can scape this phase of grief, denial, and just be right.
Thank you for coming to my TED Talk on why Jason's character, Logan, should still be alive. I love the show and will always support it but damn, that shit hurt.
I'm a marshmallow forever, ily v-mars. 💕
I’m gonna say it! WITNESS PROTECTION! I know that’s what rob has up his sleeve! He better!
I like it! Bring him back!
Denise Moore maybe he has to as he saw what the senator fella was up to or he’s undercover!!!
hard pass on season 5. the ending was my ending with VMars
Then you crap on the fans by killing Logan off
This fan isn’t coming back, love ya Kbell, but hard pass.
Yeeeah... that is exactly my thought
Yeah, they lost me too.
Game of thrones ruined all other tv series. They're all trying to do the 'shocking deaths, no one is safe' bit. Its honestly not a good formula for MOST shows. Really just makes it feel cheap and flushes away decent character development. Same thing with the originals. They killed off the majority of their cast (still upset about phoebe tonkin) to set up a new show, with no respect to the viewers having spent their time watching characters grow and change and become more complex. The writer here wanted to shake things up, but the old formula is why this show keeps coming back. Sure, change things, but dont be so damn dramatic! Logans abs and witty personality make every scene hes in better 💔
listen to your fans he just can't be gone i dont understand and will never understand..........#LoVeneverdies
OMG The thing that scares me the most is the posibility of the Logan’s death.
SPOILER
This new season it sucks for the most.
But kills Logan?
No. It’s NO SENSE.
I’m sorry for the actor and for all cast but evryone hates the end.
I’m very disappointed.
im so f-ing disappointed :(
They set it up to where Logan is gone for weeks for work. If Rob Thomas wanted to focus on just Veronica and have her outside of Neptune, have her do that when Logan is deployed. And bc we've already seen their 'love story', we can focus on the mystery like Rob wants. If Logan really died, Veronica will probably get new love interests, and then you'll have to focus on that, taking away from the mystery. Logan and V were finally just happy together. They fought so much in earlier seasons, esp 3. They basically made the movie to give them their happy ending and now they took it away. Sure, I'd rather them be in love and he dies, versus they break up. But my favorite part of the show was seeing LoVe happy together. Logan is so funny and his wit matches Veronica. The show needs Logan's character. Have him be in a coma, it still fits w the ending. And don't break them up again. Have them be an old married couple and focus on mysteries.
You shouldn’t feel great about the finale to this season Rob cos it didn’t do the show or Veronica service.
the mystery was fine it's just the last 15 minutes that take away from the show. Best to just pause after the wedding scene xD
His daughter is about to be pissed after season 4
Kristen Bell is amazing and the world needs to see her so much more, in theaters, on TV, in their lives.
Rob I hope you make severe decisions on season 5 because of the crazy madness behind your fans cause a lot of us are so hurt and mad. I don’t believe that was the best decision for the series. There’s no true justice in it.
Finished season 4 last night and now every time Rob opens his mouth I’m yelling at him. 🤬🤬
The writers screwd them
So bad .m
Like I loved him as chase graves in izombie even though he was a jerk but really loved him with liv moore
Like hell, always the couple's I loved the most didnt became the endgame 💔💔
Lol no way Weevil goes to the Good Place, are we forgetting how he successfully planned to have Thumper killed in season 2??? (even though Thumper was a killer himself)
Who is thumper again
@@tarirobere3395 Thumper was the guy that formed an alliance with the Fitzpatricks and took Weevil’s place as leader of the biker gang in season 2
@@misterrominade7928 oh Yh thanks
I watched VM much younger and thought Veronica can do no wrong. Now older, I now understand and empathize more with Keith and the adults who tried to help, protect and educate Veronica to make her better. Love this show so much.
so there are actually people who think killing off Logan is a way to get more season. lol.
1. they ruin Logan's character halfway season 3 >> awful rating >> the show get cancelled
2. the fans raise money on Kickstarter to fund a movie to finish the story >> Logan's character redeemed marvellously >> movie's well rated
3. show revival is possible because the loyal fanbase is still going strong >> season 4 happens >> kill off Logan >> no more seasons
to quote tons of people who've said the same thing, "No Logan, no VM."
I thought maybe Logan could have survived because we didn't see any funerals or anything which have made it possible in the future to bring Logan back BUT we see Veronica going to their therapist and then living town so yeah he's dead and never coming back
I may or may not have ugly cried a bit at the ending of season 4, but it won’t keep me from watching the next season! All y’all mad and saying you’re done, have a little faith! This show has been gold since episode 1 and only keeps getting better. “Bad boy turned good” would’ve bored you to death eventually, because all her relationships that were with “good guys” bored you to death and didn’t last. The whole LoVe relationship was rooted in trauma and loss, and their separations were the same! At least Logan didn’t have to fizzle out, because really, his character deserved nothing less than an epic sendoff!
Still waiting where to watch it in the uk but judging by these comments............
tnh: if you like complex female characters imprecisely navigating difficult circumstances with the limited range emotional tools they have you'll probably like it ... if you failed to understand the entire premise of 4 seasons of television 2 books and a movie and think its a story about making a boy happy ... then you might not like it ...
I wished they had more than eight Episode in season four is too bad they killed off Logan
I just found this show on Hulu and have been totally binging it this whole week while house sitting for my son !!! Thank you all !!
So I guess Season 4 is the the finale. Now that you killed Logan off. Goodbye Felicia.
thanks for spoiling the season
Hated the ending so much why???
The IMDb boat looked so cool at Comic Con I wish I could have gone on it.