The Definitive Megaten OST Tierlist with
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2020
- In this vid two music theory experts discuss the subtle concepts behind the music composed for use in the megami tensei franchise.
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00:48 Jack Bros
2:08 Megami Tensei II
3:11 Digital Devil Story Megami Tensei
4:37 Ronde
5:41 Majin Tensei duology
7:28 Persona
8:34 Revelations Persona
9:25 Persona 3 + Portable
14:05 Shin Megami Tensei If...
14:58 Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse
16:48 Shin Megami Tensei IV
19:31 Devil Summoner
22:38 Shin Megami Tensei II
24:42 Shin Megami Tensei Dx2
26:44 Catherine + Full Body
29:06 Strange Journey Redux
30:11 Persona 2 Eternal Punishment
32:22 Shin Megami Tensei Imagine
33:55 Last Bible series
35:57 Shin Megami Tensei III Nocturne
39:44 Shin Megami Tensei NINE
42:10 Persona 5
44:24 Persona 4 + Golden
48:24 Persona 5 Dancing Starlight
49:20 Persona 3 Dancing Moonlight
50:36 Devil Summoner Soul Hackers
56:32 Raidou duology. I'm not writing the full names
59:43 Devil Survivor duology + Overcloked and Record Breaker
1:04:04 Digital Devil Saga Duology
1:06:13 Persona 5 Royal
1:08:58 Shin Megami Tensei
1:10:01 DemiKids Red and Black
1:10:44 Tokyo Mirage Saloons
1:11:55 Persona Q duology
1:14:05 Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei
1:14:30 Shin Megami Tensei II: Nocturne Maniax
1:15:27 Shin Megami Tensei Synchronicity Prologue (Who comes up with these fucking names?)
1:15:55 Maken X + Shao
1:17:00 Persona 4 Dancing All Night
1:17:39 Strange Journey
1:21:38 Persona 2 Innocent Sin
Thank you
you are objectively wrong unless you agree with me 😎
Dang true
Be spittin straight fackts
Dad's simping HARD for kozuka and tasaki and honestly who wouldn't.
I’m not gonna lie there are some dangerous takes in here.
I'm ready for war
@@Larrue be careful. Because there’s a storm coming.
This was prophetic, people actually angry (?) that my opinions are different
@@Larrue ya I don’t get it
@@VincentEternal I am the storm that is approaching
SMT IV - Godtier
Everything else - Casualry
Easy
Not that extreme but kinda...
I'm late but SMTIV is the very best video game osf I have ever heard and it's not even close, and I listened to thousands of OSTs since my childhood.
If we count Apocalypse up in there too then that's perfectly reasonable to me.
"I speak unto the filth"
Jackbros is above god tier
When SimplyDad and the SMT IV theme started going off, I felt that
Oh yeah, this is peak content
Agreed
It must be fate I just wrote a paper for school on Nocturne’s use of heavy metal
What were some of the things you said?
@@yoshikagekirasfavoritehand4406 “Nocturne especially uses a mix of heavy metal and Gothic music to present ideas of “power” to the player, whether it be the player’s own power, the overwhelming power of an enemy, an ambiguity of power, or a character’s lack of power. It is this link we draw between traditional religious music, its “perversions,” and the associated power of both that make heavy metal the perfect accompaniment to understanding the conflict in Nocturne and Shin Megami Tensei as a whole.”
I then use a couple of different examples of how the presence or absence of heavy metal and Gothic music audibly tells the player who has/lacks the “power” in a situation.
You tryna publish that professionally?
@@ganon4688 Lol nope. Just a short 2500 word paper for a class.
@@darklordliam bro give it
That was fckin great 🤣
2:09 I can just stop the video right here
mt2 is literally full of nothing but bangers and it being placed anywhere but the top is grounds for cancelling SMTV
Majin Tensei 2 is badass dude wtf.
Simply can have me nodding my head in agreement and shouting at my screen, sometimes at the same time somehow.
ok but when you gonna talk bout persona 5?
what's a persona 5?
sounds like an ok game with an obnoxious fandom
@@wak2568 yeah it's got that vibe
@@chamclamtv An aura if you will
Is that a reboot for TMS ?
TMS 2? poggers
38:15 - 40:00 got me dying with that piano arrangement roast lmao
Totally agree with what you said about Meguro.
Please Atlus give this man a break.
Mfs sleep on the persona 1 soundtrack. That awakening theme 🔥🔥🔥
>S tier
@@unbanquackityishot327Kama Palace has more energy to it than most songs in MegaTen.
>Persona 1 psx on S tier
ah men on culture i see
I keep coming back to this video, my favourite video on the platform. Just the snarky and comedic delivery on a ton of opinions mixed in with collective dog-piling on Persona 3 keeps me coming back, really great content out here
Also Devil Survivor has a good soundtrack yall just SNOOZING😤
I'm here for Smt 2 placement and I've seen enough, I'm satisfied, thank you
cant wait to see SMT4 in quadruple S tier
S-Tier is Simply Tier, had to get that joke out of the way before someone else did lol
Honestly. Megami Tensei 2 is the most hardest to find it’s original OST, even an extended version. Like, only a few tracks have been posted on RUclips separately, let alone its original famicom versions. Sure the SNES renditions from Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei are there but the NES does it better. Someone please upload an extended version of all the tracks please 🥺
Best quote: "you're objectively stupid"
''i like how 4's original one goes''
*proceeds to sing the mcdonalds jingle*
This is probably the worst & dumbest tier list I’ve ever seen in my life lmao
Whats your favorite megaten ost?
Whats your favorite megaten ost?
Whats your favorite megaten ost?
Whats your favorite megaten ost?
Nocturne, P3 & IV best OST
Nice tier list, Soul Hackers, SMT IV, Digital Devil Saga and Strange Journey on S Tier - absolute masterpiece OST.
okay, but they put Jack Bros in A Tier, so it's objectively wrong
@@beowolf9480 ... thats not wrong at all
@@RollingBobbyJones what are you talking about, Jack Bros is the best MegaTen game in all aspects
U got me crackin up when y'all were talkin about noato's dungeon lmfao
Thank you for putting Digital Devil Saga 2 over Digital Devil Saga 1, I love both soundtracks but god DAMN the second game's music is just incredible.
It really fits the game too
i feel like dad hates the whole smt series
Strange Journey Redux have two great songs - Shekinah Theme, and Alex Theme. Should be on B tier not E :)
True.
Shekinah :')
I would also add the new law ending theme.
such an underrated game
@@NintendoAndMusic1205 Yeah new law ending theme (OMEN) is beautifull.
Why would just two songs elevate it two tiers above lmao
11:48 oh you mean the Mcdonalds happy meal theme?
good opinions sighted
S tier persona 1 psx ,this list its objetive as fuck, that game has the best song ever, CHILD ABUSE
tbh i mostly agree, would've placed the royal a couple tiers higher because of Throw Away your Mask and Our light but other than that a really good tier list :)
I came here a month after already watching this to say Ronde having its own tier of bad is honestly the most factual thing I’ve seen in a megaten tier list
While I can see the general opinion on Redux new OST being bland and all, what your opinion on Womb of Griefs dungeon theme, specifically? I feel like I need to ask because it was probably the only song in both the original and Redux that stuck with me (outside of battle themes).
One of the determining factors we had was remixes, arranged versions and how much new music was in the game. I think Womb is not that strong and a little off the vibes from the original, on it's own it's a fine song but not in the context of the game for me
@@Larrue I see... Well, thanks for the reply ^^
I keep coming back here from time to time.
I like devil survivor 1 music but I can appreciate why someone wouldn’t, great tier list overall imo
devil survivor ost is pretty good, but it gets annoying on the ear after a while, especially the battle theme.
This list is full of hot take but oddly Catherine being in A makes me the most triggered I think it's absolute perfection
Whaaaaat I loved the first shop theme from Ronde. Underated cruis'n USA sounding ass.
I was concerned for a moment when you put SJ Redux in E.
But then SJ classic went in S and all was well.
Yup, it's such a fall from grace
Is there a Simply Mom?
I want some of the drugs that they took before making the list because this doesn't make any sense
What did we get wrong?
you didn't put the whole persona series on S tier and that offends me because i'm stupid
@@wak2568 based comment
Say what you will, but the Ronde tier was absolutely perfect; you cannot deny such an objective fact.
@@elfiebranford9330 i mean there's not much to object, it's perfect by default
how did you guys NOT mention the fated showdown when y'all got to the raidou duology
I see strange journey's ost in S-Tier and SMT4 too so nothing's wrong with the tier list
So guys, do you wanna be clear when you said "just show the Soul Hackers intro" you mean the Saturn intro or the 3DS intro. Cause I feel you mean Saturn, but Western people would think of 3DS first.
To me, all the soundtracks are s tier
Except Ronde
Tbh this should've been Dad's video since he carried this whole stream.
Whatcha mean? I think our chemistry carried the stream
@@Larrue this
@@Larrue You two have chemistry, but that wasn't enough to fix the technical issues lol.
This was great! Thanks for this, for real
Good banter.
Some OSTs tiers I don't agree but I respect it.
My S-Tier:
SMT IV
Majin Tensei 2
SMT III: Nocturne
SMT: Digital Devil Saga 1&2
SMT: Soul Hackers
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Really surprised there’s no comments talking about your persona 5 placement
Persona 5 ost isn't even that good imo
@@memesfact1552 I like the ost, but i was expecting there to be dad haters and persona fans raising pitchforks n shit
As someone who has the P5 soundtrack as my favourite ost of all time, their placement makes a lot of sense. The soundtrack's pretty different from SMT OST's.
@@memesfact1552 true they are hyped up too much and I can’t wait for the hate but idc I love both franchises
Aye yall really trippin with this video.
Jack Bros ost obviously can't even be ranked. Its beyond that.
Hee ho
Hee hooooo
In what tier would P5S be at?
Y'know the list is pretty great, like I disagree with some placements but otherwise fire list.
larrue legit saying he wants to hate SMT IV but can't because it's way to fucking good
Low-key almost had a panic attack seeing strange journey being dragged as Larrue saying "music good but gameplay is bad"
What the, I didn't say that about sj!
@@Larrue *explodes*
Soul Hackers YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
What did the persona games do to simply dad did they assault him as a child or something cause this is a just criminal
To him, they probably assaulted Persona 1 and the 2 duology lol
p3 and nocturne dangerously low majin tensei 2 should be higher
But Majin 2 is in the highest tier?
@@Larrue yes
I disagree with p3 but noturne derseved better
Wait why’s SMT SJ remake so low compared to the original
Like my 15th time I watched this. I disagree with so much but laugh like every 2 minutes because the dynamic y’all had was great. Devil Survivor 1 sounds good in the og or Overclocked. I’m so not into whatever the fuck Meguro was doing with Strange Journey despite loving orchestral. Hopefully he tightened his shit up with Re:Fantazio.
I feel like Im the only one in the internet that adores the P3 OST :/
No there are others but compared it is lacklustre at worse and decent at best
P3 has my favorite soundtrack of any megaten game. Burn my dread is perfect
Persona 3 ost is amazing
Nah people usually love it
Where would you put persona 5 strikers?
Nice
I didn't know about the first devil summoner having an arranged soundtrack. Where can I find that?
It’s apart of the original soundtrack
Y'all did DeSu 1 kinda dirty, sure its not all bangers and there isn't that much of it so it does get repetitive, but Demon of Darkness and Deep Night alone keep it out of D imo. Garuda is also not offbeat at all idk what that was even about. Its in 4/4 so its not hard to count and I did it just fine. Sunset is also pretty nice.
33:00 lmao KDA got his ass blasted. I mean, he deserved it for trying to discredit dx2 soundtrack but that was utter destruction
Is it truly possible to vibe with *enough* tracks in all these soundtracks around but not fully equally without having a hitman sent on me? 😔
At the beginning of the video, who was that girl that dad looked like
it's simplydad
@@Larrue fair enough
Bruh 😂😂 its dad not a girl
im still singing desu1 soundtrack in my head tho
I agree with pretty much everything except for P3, the good tracks like changing seasons feel like a splash of cold water they're so good. The ambient/ story tracks are weak tho
Soul Hackers is the best in the series
I gotta say I disagree with devil survivor. I'd put devil survivor in c
If Catherine ain't S tier I swear
It's in a are we fighting
@@Larrue I accept the reasoning so nah
whats the music playing at 1:29:40 ? please answer somebody thanks!
Nocturne - sound test
I'll break some kneecaps if Strange Journey isn't S tier
I'd like to see you try
it's B tier at best
@@Larrue It's the MegaTen lord himself
@@stale_cheeto delete this
@@KaiMCGRPS i listened to it more and i think its A tier now
ATLUS: ,, Hey Shoji !!! Compose something for new Persona..."
SHOJI MEGURO: ,,Man, not again. Im so tired compose music for generic anime jrpg. Give me a break ..."
SHOJI MEGURO: ,,Here: ruclips.net/video/Ec4YbVP9R-A/видео.html , 5 000 000 yen please..."
ATLUS: ,,Hey Shoji !!! Compose something for Shin Megami Tensei..."
SHOJI MEGURO: ,,Finaly !!! Hold my beer ..."
SHOJI MEGURO: ,,Here: ruclips.net/video/jWM3gH3qXYc/видео.html"
ATLUS: ,,Hey!!!
Your payment !!!"
SHOJI MEGURO: ,,
Composing music was pure pleasure. This was for free''
What’s the song playing at 21:34
I started watching, saw P3 in E, remember you put p3 in E, and seethed
Master of Shadow and Changing Seasons, at least D😭
Persona 3 is probably BEST SOUNDTRACK in the series . . . Oof E and D tier 😔
August . . . Persona 3 best in the series? Insanely hot take.
I love a good bit of p3s instrumental tracks but yeah, lotus juice is a nah from me. (More people need to hear Majin tensei 2 ost its so goddamn good) also nocturnes ost is A tier no matter how you look at it
DDS 1&2 ost is Meguro's best work by far
I just tune lotus juice out.
Tbh i do not agreed with your opinions of the tier list, but tbf i understand the "fits the game" thing. Oh well good vid Larrue, it was really enjoyable and fun to watch
I really like the 25th remix of the chaos theme from SJ and some of the Smt IV , but stuff like the remix for The Fear of God sounds way too cheerful for tue song it's supposed to be, to the point where it doesn't even sound the same, and often not in a positive way IMO
Personally, Pull the Trigger from Persona Q2 is my favorite megaten song
All the persona q and q2 songs are amazing
Apoc should 100% be with SMT IV in the top tier, f2, fairy forest, cosmic egg, kinshicho, world map, enemy of god, etc
TMS is the best of the SMT game's I've played and the soundtrack for encore should be in s teir
I agree with a lot of these. I would have put SMT higher for its ambient unreleased tracks.
So what I got from this is that Strange Journey is the Naruto of video games.
more like the berserk of video games
Oof imagine sleeping on Persona 3's soundtrack
Honestly it slaps but compared I understand the low rating
saying imagine sleeping on personas 3 soundtrack is like saying Imagine sleeping on a pile of shit like nah I aint gonna do that
where would you rank SMT 5 now that the game's out?
Probably A tier, I thought was really good and fit the themes but nothing crazy mindblowing
I’d say like D
Solid C tier, only tracks I find memorable is the Level up theme, the reinterpretation of the nocturn track that plays during the demi-fiend boss fight and nothing else.
Should've made a SS tier for smt 4 soul hackers dds 1 and 2 and p1 on god
100%
I would put dds 1 and 2, Smt 2, Smt3 and Persona 2 (sega saitan). Persona 1 is meh in my opinion but the rest ☝️
Dx2 is surprisingly fire Tokyo Abyss battle theme goes hard
I'm going to agree with how high you rank Catherine and all but c'mon now....is it really a Shin Megami game!?!?!?
Its Megaten game.
@@nr2676 Nah, it's not Megaten. Atlus makes more than Megaten games
Stowp making fuwn of the things I wike ;-; :( :< 😞😓😩🥺😕🤕
Some of shoji meguro's best work for me is the first raidou game, strange journey and both digital devil saga games. I would consider nocturne but i have to agree with what you guys said. A lot of the good songs from nocturne are just ruined by just the addition of unnecessary instruments or sounds. Staff roll is completely ruined by that electric guitar and songs like normal battle ~town~ are ruined by that terrible ass voice that sounds like a dog barking
Nah it has its place with the town battle and the battle themes as it is unique but I can see most disliking the OST, it is an aqirrured taste
Simply Dad? more like Simply Based
Wow... just... wow. This list...
Hmm?
Persona 1 and 2 got the places they deserved. Although... I'll admit, I didn't think you'd rank MIP so high. Most fans prefer the portable remake's tracks... p2 especially got the places it deserved... HOT DAMN, LISTEN TO KNIGHTS OF THE HOLY SPEAR THOUGH!
I laughed when I persona 4 dancing happened