When 2 Top 500 Tanks Q Support in Overwatch 2
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- Опубликовано: 24 дек 2022
- Support really do be like playing Dead by Daylight
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Flats: "If you're stuck at your rank it's your own fault."
*Plays Support in Platinum*
Flats: "Are you just supposed to micromanage everyone because of how clueless they are?"
Now you understand how to play Support.
He said that in reference to damage and tank. Many times he has said thats not true for support.
@bendys brother True, he has said many times that for DPS and sometimes Tank, mechanically, you can force your way up to Diamond, but it is a very different experience for support
@@sunny_172 yep thats what I said, thanks for agreeing with me I think?
@bendys brother Yep! I've been on a Flats binge, so tbh I just wanted to comment about it, lol
the beginning was just flats experiencing the average support life
That's the thing about ow2 support now.
The skill floor is higher now, but most support players go in thinking it's ow1 😅
And Flats getting flanked by the Sojourn.
"Did they just flank me with no resistance from my team."
Yes, yes she did.
@@johntan4997 The skill floor is where it's always been.
@@allstarwoo4 What you have to realise is, *you* are the resistance. Or else your team just gets railed in the backside.
@@val26874 I think all supports should learn how to duel for survivability but that's also time and attention taken from me supporting my team. A support enabling their team is more valuable than support good at dueling. Just because Zen is very good at dueling doesn't mean it's worth pulling my discord off the enemy tank for example. Yes, it might save me but that's one less advantage our team has because I'm getting flanked.
"Suffer as I have!" - The entire Support playerbase
"what am I supposed to do, micro manage every little thing?" Ah, welcome to playing support Flats. Now you get it for why support players think everyone else are some of the dumbest players alive.
When an ego-filled tank player has to suffer support. 👌
I got told yesterday in quickplay ana your positioning sucks after 3 of my teammates run away from healing around walls into a Winston tracer genji instead of letting them use cooldowns and then proceeded to tell me I don't heal.
I told them I can heal all damage except 1 shots and brain damage. He could decide the reason himself
Flats: "They're called supports because you're not supposed to healbot"
Also Flats: 13k healing and 200 dmg in one round
I usually assume he means that for lower ranks. Because less competent players.
he's explained this in some other video before which im not expecting you to have seen so, firstly healbotting on certain characters, like mercy and lucio is bad because theyre not the best at it and you're missing out on their potential, secondly healbotting can be okay, but in solo q when you're trying to climb it means you're relying on your teamates to do everything, when your teamates are people in this rank, and you're wanting to be higher so you have to offer something more to the team. Like in bronze if you're playing moira, you can easy hop into the backline and kill one of their supports or even a dps while most likely the entire team is focused on the tanks. Since Flats isn't trying to climb, he knows they are good and they can win as long as he just heals them, plus he's playing kiriko who is pretty good as a healbot since she can build ultimate quickly, also the fact that the other support was a zen, means he has to compensate for zens lack of healing. He explained it better in the video but I forgot what it was lol so sorry.
@@Hitoshuratdn thats because he was playing kiriko, he's healbotting to get kitsune rush as often as possible, the way he was playing zen was super aggro though, it's about what the character is built to do, mercy and kiriko are characters that do best when they're babysitting other heroes, every other support is pretty much a balance of if a kill or if some heals provide more to the team in that moment
@@isaacsimpson8098 bruh he literally has a video roasting a kirko for only healing.
Keep coping please
@@Hope_Prevail The difference being, that Kiriko almost never attempted to throw a single kunai at the enemy. Most high level Kirikos will healbot to build ult while also throwing the occasional kunai or flanking
Something just heartwarming about a Top 500 having to live life like the rest of us. Feels good.
Support players: First time? You merely adopted the suffering. Us? We were molded by it.
I thought after time the suffering would cease. In fact, the suffering will always be.
To be completely honest maintank players have also sufferd allot in ow1. You could get 1shot at any moment in time it felt like lol.
@@Siks7Ate9 Don't forget the CC combos that ended with a free teleport back to spawn
@@appo5 yeah that's partly what I'm talking about.
We were born of the suffering, made men by the suffering, undone by the suffering.
Flats: “There’s no way I just went from plat four to plat three.”
Me: “Your rank went up?”
As a support player I'm very confused as to why he would ever think he would be getting more than that.
@caiocampoy9468 Ranking up ONLY 1 division is not normal, at least for me..but I have ranked up 3 divisions so
Fun to see that not even a T500 tank duo of several years playing on their masters level support cant even get out of plat with this current ranking system. Thanks blizzard
because they're not good, that's the truth of it. Look in the beginning at their enemy support stats compared to them, it's just a skill issue
I mean they aren't good supports & I'm pretty sure that's obvious at least 1000% not even Master's, their specialty is Tank
@@Alex_Aramayo yea I thought that was obvious too, they're just not as good at the support characters
@@khaledm.1476halfway through the video you can see both of them outhealed the enemy team 10 to 4 and still lost. One of their dps had 4 elims and 12 deaths. Sometimes no matter what supports do, if dps and tank aren’t pulling their weight, you lose.
That 14% scoped accuracy on Ana
Well when you got teammates spending 90% of their airtime jumping to get around of course it's gonna look like that. Contrary to popular beliefs, jumping does NOT in fact make your walk speed any faster, because you're capped at the full walk speed that character can travel. That said, jumping off high places to a lower area can increase some distance travelled a little quicker, slopes and stairs are the exception also.
@@Alkaris its okay to admit the thing you like has some faults
@@Alkaris bro ana is hitscan when scopped in what do you mean travel time
Quickscoping I believe counts as a missed shot. And if not then who cares, he's playing a offrole, enjoy the video stop bashing on none meaningfull shit lol
No way he just called you Plats lmao
"Do I have to micro manage the entire time?" Welcome to the Healer Hellscape.
7:15 is hilarious.. That’s exactly how it feels sometimes because as a support you see everything during the fight because you’re behind your team and sometimes you’re just praying for your tank not to play too aggressive
Flats' look of barely contained fury at the end of the video is what I live for.
That's why supports are the main ones using mics. We literally have to explain to our team how the game works 🤣
Unfortunately your not wrong, if say some player use their brains the remaining 60% of the people play either on full autopilot or like bots.
Nah bro, Flats reaction to his new support rank is literally just me when i play support
This is how support is
As a support main this is so true
As someone who tried maining support it’s just awful
@@gamerfox4835 i can back this claim up as another support main
@@samarieow which healer I main ana
@@gamerfox4835 i main mercy and zenyatta!
Flats can play anything except dps, we have seen him in the tour playing sojourn. He's the *only top500 player to make sojourn look actually nerfed*
Watch him play Ashe where he's actually comfortable on and he does own though
Support Mains:
*whisper into ear*: feel our pain
Wow that was a CLEAN sweep from soap's team on that match.
You have a 69 like ratio so I’m not going to thumbs up, but know it is implied. That joke had me dead 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
200+ comments of "Flats experiencing support struggles" is my favorite thing ever.
Nice video Plats. Keep up the good work.
Flats 6mo ago “I have no sympathy for supports. The support role is too strong”
Flats now “how am I supposed to have an impact on my team without micro managing??”
Ahhhh I hope the redemption arc continues
welcome to my average experience in comp flats. this has been my experience for the entire season
"Good job Platz"😂
and this highlights why we supports are annoyed, sure it’s not as bad as most people say it is but it’s still the hardest role to play
That laugh at 8:14 got me so good
So much for Supports can carry teams eh?
I remember something along the lines of “If you’re good, only 4 of your teammates can be bad, the enemies can have 5” lol.
Now you know how impossible it is as supports to carry when you’re not paired with competent Tank or DPS you can communicate with.
Edit: My bad, Flat sucks ass as support
Flats got humbled lmao
Bro this was a support diff all the way through, more like the team had to carry them
Except Bap & maybe Mercy those are the only supports i feel like i can & have carried with maybe Moira too but that's a big if
@@BalkanGames my boi 😂
Some MUCH needed holiday cheer this season lol
Haha the tanks and Dps don't understand the pain.
low elo support experience is babysitting your team I once had to tell my dps to look up because a Pharah was shooting them and they didn't know where the damage was coming from : ^)
I've been a support main since season 2 of ow1.
I actively have a higher rank DPS and tank rank because of players like
*Tanks that break line of sight*
*DPS that do less damage than Bap*
*Players that do the same thing over and over with the same bad results every time*
Oh, and my personal favorite - *Mercy one-tricks that only heal, complaining about having most healing*
got 7-2 today and ranked up from bronze 5 to... bronze 5
This is pretty nice flats can finally have the average support experience
Yup I went from diamond 4 to diamond 3. That shit made my brain melt, couldn't even cue for another game after that one
better than going from bronze 3 to bronze 5, but I'll digress
@Khaled M. I'm sorry friend. Hopefully you get out of that soon
Bro same, it's always 1 division that will turn me off
A wise man once said if you are duo queuing you have a 3 in 5 chance to get a bad player and if you are good you should climb 👀👀👀👀👀
If you are the one playing dps or tank, not support.
Welcome to support hell
I like how you make fun of Miora, yet you get absolutely wrecked by her A LOT! 😂
It's the bronze dps Moiras he doesn't like, not high rank Moiras lol
@@tuckersprano9711 lol what's the difference?
@@tuckersprano9711 don't project onto flats, he doesn't give a shit about bronze players. Moira is a shit hero and doesn't contribute much to a GM, Top 500 game, that's what he's talking about. Moira is a god Bronze to Plat
@@tuckersprano9711
There’s a difference?
@@keithk5071one knows how to help the team and the other feeds and gets no value
I didn't realize you liked horror games, I'd love to see more DBD content!
As a former support main, I understand this pain.
However, I just traded one form of suffering for another
I am now a Ball Main
Enjouly your new suffering
God once you improve as ball you will cause the suffering
More power to you
This video is an accurate representation of my matches as a support player.
'Good job Plats'
*skull emoji skull emoji*
What a treat this was thank you
Now they understand what it feels like to play supports with clueless teammates.
2:03 I feel you man. I'm telling you, sometimes (granted, not always) this is how it feels.
As a support main the crazy thing is he barely we t positive and promoted. I went 7-0 and stayed at plat 2 and 7-1 demoted me
That's weird, I went 7-0 once on support and got promoted 3 ranks (plat 5 to plat 2) ruclips.net/video/ECbb98nLkNU/видео.html
I don't understand the new rank system a whole lot but like the old system, personal performance (whatever that means in stats depending on role) and the rank of the whole lobby compared to yours may have something to do on your gains and losses. The latter is easier to determine now because of the "X challenger" titles, but it's still a little misleading because of off-roles.
My Christmas wish came true: another upload
Being support isn't fun anymore 😪 either you get rolled and targeted or your teammates spam chat for heals when your trying your best. Not saying there aren't games you make mistakes or have a bad game but for the most part it's so frustrating
I started having a lot more fun when I muted game chat, literally nothing useful is ever going to be said there.
@@Luke-vs3yw sad part is they still find a way to abuse you through text chat 😒
Then you hear Freedo saying supports aren't that bad/are the most powerful class in the game, and ponder if you are playing a complete different game...
the beginning is my experience as a tank, being new and just unlocking ranked I'm 25 loses, how I'm getting paired up with the opposing tanks being diamond etc vs a player with 0 rank and expected to win 7 games is mind blowing.
This video pleases me as a support main. This is our life.
2:04 Flats is introduced to playing support
Wtf, I main Zenyatta and a top 500 pulls off Zenyatta as a Rein heart main just surprises me for some unprecedented reason
rein heart
Not really, I mean he's in their front line trying to get environmental kills. Not really smart play for Zenyatta.
The guy is top500 for a reason, he also has gamesense, he knows the propper way to play each hero, just not at the opportune moments or under pressure or lacks the experience of certain situations.
He's also out there trying to have fun while playing support. If I play zen I don't sit 10 miles back waiting for someone to walk in a 5orb volley. That's boring. Yes if I would otherwise 100% lose that game maybe I will.
christmas upload thanks big dawg
I want more of THIS content
"SOJOURN JUST RAN UP TO ME!" Yeah, and that's why you have the kick
he died in1 second lol
2:48 is describing every support game in overwatch 2... welcome to hell buddy.
i can go to sleep happy knowing that my peak support is the same as flats whereas i am silver in tank and dps
Bro same. Im like am I bad or do I just not play them enough 🤔
I never thought I would’ve been able to play on the same server than Flats or Emongg on Overwatch and now they are the same SR as me on support, never lose hope everyone :D
this was wonderful
"Good job Plats" has be dying BRUHHHH xD
The Christmas gift I didn't know I wanted.
Loving the support content, Plats!
14% weapon accuracy Flats 😮… my man… I… I’m speechless…
Bruh I almost seized when they called him "Plats." 🤣
good job Plats
This is why it's so important to have competent teammates as a support
Or you get absolutely nowhere
LOL he understands the struggle
merry christmas plats
2:12 The fun of support is trying to keep a bunch of idiots alive :D
I wish you all a wonderful Christmas! 🎄
flats when support lifestyle:
Me on Sunday Christmas day. Suffering every game of comp as support. 😂
Love the outro
The Runescape bgm was a nice touch.
This happens to me everytime I play ranked
Mary Christmas!
Loved the video, y’all had so much fun. Thank you for letting me be a part of the games :)
Great job Plats!
Welcome to support in OW2. This is CONSTANT.
The best change was the queue time for each match a big difference from the 10 minute queue for tank
Good job, Plats!
Day 21 of asking flats to do bronze vs bots again, also merry Christmas!
kitsune rush plus zen is really fun!
That res was literal feeding
Why do I feel like that I'm the only person that enjoys support? U need healing? I'm already on it 👊
8:13 LOL
Glad to see the BS all of us have to go through EVERYDAY in our games. This is literally how probably 75% of medal rank games go.
“Hard pill to swallow - it’s your fault if you can’t rank up. Not your team’s”
Supports, that get flanked/solo ulted/saving their own asses for 5 minutes/being trash talked the whole game/fucked: …
nice to see we’re the same rank
That’s just, thats just support for you.
Love the runescape music in the backround!!!
It's gravity rush music
Never mind. It's both
Yooo, i’m a higher ranked support than flats! 😂 Always enjoy the other roles though! Glad to see you enjoying the game again!
Remember when he had few thousands of subs great to see go far
I like Plats as a nickname. Keeping that one.
As someone who mained tank in ow1 to support in ow2, I love this
How is my support higher lmao. This makes me feel better about myself thank you
It’s kinda funny to see the difference between your main role and your off roles. I’m a diamond sig and I’m almost bronze in support and dps lol.
@@googleslides8305 yeah I was always a flex player but my mechanical skill is super rusty nowadays. My dps and tank are hurting this season
@@googleslides8305
Yeah the disparity is hilarious and my friends flame me frequently for it. I'm a Masters player in Support but I'm only Silver in tank and Bronze in damage lmao.
@@PinkSleeper I would say for tank just use your brain more, don't let teammates feed their brains out and you will get ez wins purely from gamesense in that elo.
Literally if your teammates stay alive longer then if takes the enemy to feed into you your winning lol. Ontop of that dive heroes or orisa are hard to punish because there is no peel or they all shoot at the orisa when they don't need to and panic when your ontop of them lol
@@Siks7Ate9
Nah I know I could easily rank up as those roles. I just barely play them because I geniunely don't think they're that enjoyable to play. I could probably get them to atleast Plat pretty easily if I was ever motivated to play them. I mean the only reason I have any ranks in those roles to begin with was to play with my friends who are new to the game and I was forced to play Tank and DPS with them cuz my rank as Support was to high.
I can't celebrate plat's climb through the ladder enough, Merry Christmas plats
Zen has literally no other defensive option or situation in which that's applicable. Kiriko can give an entire team invincibility through most of the ults, ccs, and status effects in this game, zen needs a "this is sparta!"
Every new support has gotten 10x the bells and whistles as the original trio - soft reworks like the kick are good.
Time for flats to change his battle tag.
always surprised to hear runescape music here lol
Plat 3? Omg! I'm finally above a top500 streamer lol. Getting to Diamond 4 with Kiriko solo Q feels all the sweeter now!