Why I'm fighting to stop Labour's austerity plan | Dave Ward interview
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- Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
- CWU General Secretary Dave Ward joined us after Rachel Reeves' speech at Labour conference to discuss his motion to push the government to end winter fuel cuts.
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16 years after the 2008 financial crisis, bankers have had their bonuses restored, pensioners have had the winter fuel allowance taken away.
and workers were left with the bill for the freebies that pensioners vote for.
UK benefit fraud estimated £60 Million, estimated tax fraud £55 Billion. Starmer's Tories attack benefit and ignore tax fraud. Nuff said.
@@m0o0n0i0r the pensioners paid their tax and N I,ya walloper!
A lot of people in my area who voted for change are very disappointed.
If the state pension is increased what’s the issue
How many?
@@Fabbydabby1It's not increased before winter. You can't spend money you don't have.
You voted for reform.
@@SammyInnityou have spent the last 14 years voting to take money away from disabled people and single mothers.
How does the shoe feel on the other foot?
Equality solves most problems, inequality causes most of them
Top man is Dave Ward he knows we should look after our pensioners.
Why don't the rest of them know that while they are accepting muslim bribes?
Ask any postal worker if they think Dave Ward is a top man.Good luck.✌️
@@TheTartanSpartans it will be a low number
Labour politicians have the most gifts but pay nothing for them according to them.
The discussion around the WFA is such a mess.
If you want those with the most to contribute the most, why give the WEALTHIEST GENERATION IN HUMAN HISTORY where 27% are millionaires free money?
What other generation gets government funded luxuries?
27% of the generation……what’s that meant to mean ?
Now if the ideal living standard was based on comparison to previous generations alone like that, would that not state the case for returning to the quality of life in the Victorian era? The Georgian period? I mean I wouldn't mind the working conditions of medieval England, every farmer is practically their own manager under the local baron, and they get more days off that we do now 😂 But pining for the days before social security nets and gov-funded services isn't just a sign of a good work ethic on your part and a desire to earn for yourself, it's a call to bring back mass poverty, fear, crime, and suffering. The whole point is that having things cut over the last 14 years of Austerity has made us poorer, and made us less hopeful for our futures, driving up mental illness and civil unrest. The system as it is does not allow for the upward mobility for EVERY person that it claims, and with companies and their owners always trying to pay the smallest possible wages they can, laying people off, raising prices and owning the vast majority of all money in the world, the reality is most people are mathematically unable to buy their own houses with one or two full-time, mimimum wage jobs anymore, and moving away from the government's responsibility to support us now would only make that harder. We already have a massive poverty issue and so many people homeless, just come to Cambridge and see for yourself how many people have been turfed out to struggle and starve alone.
The capitalists want all the money there is, and as long as that remains, we will have nothing left but to buy the lie that we have to sweat to earn every penny, while others sit on piles of money and watch them get bigger. We even have 20+ million people across the world, who's living conditions come under the definition of modern slavery! That includes at least a few people here in the U.K., as I recall a video of someone forced to live/work in a london flat to grow weed - It's not about everyone getting their dream life, it's to say that there needs to be a "bottom line" to living standards that we don't cross and the one we have isn't good enough, the disparity between the richest and poorest even her in the U.K. alone is insanity
I do agree that fiscal responsibility of the government is key and things should balance out as they can before spending, however I couldn't disagree more with the conservative idea of running the government like a business to see how full the coffers can become instead of helping the British people. The mandate of a modern nation is based on the idea that the government provides and maintains a standard of living for all its citizens rather than purely to act as a sovereign's bank account.
27% of boomers are millionaires? Er, no. Maybe 2%.
@@californiadreamin8423 it means after working over 50 years, we own our homes. Just gaslighting.
27% are millionnaires? Weren't you on Question Time a few years ago, claiming that 80% of the population earned more than £80K? By the way, My winter fuel payment doesn't go to pay for luxuries - just a few more of the essentials I should never have had to do without in the first place!
I think Labour assumed that people would be happy with a worse change.
Why would anyone want austerity followed by high taxes?
Austerity requires a cut in spending, there is no cut in spending planned.
@@eddyd63Would you agree that we need an increase in spending at this time?
If all we wanted was the status quo then why vote for a change. It's a genuine question. Not trying to be argumentative or anything 🙂
@@Floyd-df2uq What I would say is that the last time a prime minister announced unfunded spending the gilt market collapsed and millions of people watched their pensions disappear. This directly led to a crash in the govs popularity that they never recovered from.
I find it funny that people on the left (of which I am one of them) can happily criticise Truss for her disastrous time in office but have no idea that what they are proposing will have exactly the same effect.
The economy has been mismanaged for years, rapid spending increases will result in the loss of confidence from financial markets and will actually harm the economy, not boost it.
The economy as it is needs to be very carefully managed, it is not an exaggeration to say we are in a very delicate situation.
People seem to be under the impression that government spending is some static thing that would have the exact same effect now as it would have had 10 years ago.
Yes, austerity was a disastrous policy that has severely hampered our growth, but that neglect has far reaching and profound effects that have severely weakened this country and made it far more difficult to turn around.
Austerity for you, freebies for me.
Yes that's what the boomerati have benefited from for 14 years
If you're head of a Union shouldn't you be advicating for the members of that Union rather than grandstanding on winter fuel allowance cuts which won't affect any of your members? Why isn't he advocating for a winter fuel allowance for workers? Just playing politics basically.
Labour as bigger hypocrites and dunces as ever.
Worked 47 years to buy my own small home and finally paid off my mortgage at 68 years of age, now retired and in poor health can't afford to live in it on £13k a year. The loss of the WFP was the last straw, I wouldn't say I have the broadest financial shoulders...why is Labour punishing people like me? I didn't vote Conservative or for Brexit.
yeah this means test for folk on the cusp like yourself , it aint fair ,
Labour could easily impose a windfall tax on the energy companies that would easily raise not only the billion to give our seniors a winter fuel allowance but also the other 60 odd million of us
approx 7 billion per annum to give every household a winter fuel allowance , and the energy companies would still be in profit
Labour are punishing you because like the Conservative party they will not impose the windfall tax and they are wrong to just be tories in red ties
they are too scared to punch up , so they punch down
Labour are not for the working-class anymore, have not been for the last 4o years .I think people who voted Labour have buyers remorse.
“Its not austerity!” screams Phil Moorhouse, somewhere in the background.
If overall public spending increases then it isn’t austerity
I was depressed when I heard in the news today that Starmer was going to tighten up on benefit claimants and I thought, change of government same language and then thought of the reverse what about tightening up on tax evasion and advoidance but that would upset their rich friends.
People with the most already pay the most. That’s how percentage tax works. But in most cases it’s just the middle class getting shafted
Yep. 60% of all personal tax receipts are paid by the top 10% of earners. 40% by the top 1% of earners.
Whenever I hear phrases like 'Tax the Rich' or 'Those who have the most should pay the most' I almost always am left wondering what is actually meant by those phrases. In the form given, they're almost functionally meaningless.
They don't, they have accountants to avoid it. Most don't even make an 'income' in the taxable sense
@@witwicky5565 Those figures are from IFS's Tax Lab.
"The top 10% of taxpayers paid 60% of all income tax in 2023-24, up from 35% in 1978-79. The share of income tax revenue contributed by the top 1% of taxpayers rose from 11% in 1978-79 to 29% in 2023-24, despite big cuts in top rates of tax in the first 10 years of that period."
I stand corrected on my claims about the top 1%. They contribute 29% rather than 40%. The 10% claim is further confirmed.
(I'd drop the link but YT tends to block them)
@@kdog3908Have you not heard of tax dodging? It’s what wealthy companies and rich people do. They avoid paying their share and that is the problem. The Tories even had a former chancellor who was caught doing it, Nadhim Zahawi. That is the problem.
@@veganbarnsley15tax avoidance is legal tax dodging, I'm quite sure there's lots of loopholes that could be closed but I'm guessing there's little appetite to do so because it would affect politicians and their wealthy supporters. Much easier to fleece the middle class.
He is sitting on the wrong side of the fence. I hope he puts as much passion into wealth distribution towards the asset-less young.
I don't understand what you mean?
The young don't do any work that's why they're asset-less
@timmo491 don't be glib
@@Mightypi you don't know what glib means do you lol
I'm in total agreement with him
The question is do you need the winter fuel allowance ?? , or do we govern by tory press story's.
They are all offended on other people's behalf, while they themselves have hundreds of thousands of pounds of property. They are greedy and want it all.
People think pensioners get something for nothing...not so ...when I was working we were paying the pensions of the then pensioners - in addition to free university etc etc....my son is of the opnion that politicians know that most of the children of pensioners will help their parents....so really it is a tax and 'abuse' of the young.....if you do not have children or your children are not likely to help you or you are the type who won't help your parents...shame on you and am sorry for parents!
The problem is money velocity, consolidation and how it doesn't circulate in the local economies anymore. It ain't actually complex, what's better buying from a local grocer who spends at the pub, buys from local independent shops. Or you buy it at a supermarket and the cash mainly goes to shareholders and the top 1%. Seriously how much longer do we have to wait for someone to actually be honest? This is a distortion in the economy across so many sectors. The supermarkets killed the local grocer economy, Amazon nuked the rest of the shops. Privatisation destroyed investments in transport and utilities. What planet are these people on thinking just tax the rich and give to the poor. It will just woosh right back up again to the rich. Who will find a way to avoid it. Idiots!
you nearly lost me at the first sentence but then i realised its my ignorance of your words that is the fault , i read on , im glad i did
good post
@@tomfinney3416 thank you for being normal. It's also worth noting it can cause shadow economies to form. Such as shop lifting to order things like that. Illegal prescription meds also. They really should know this by now.
taxing the rich to give money to the poor to give money to the rich who we tax to give money to the poor... etc i mean yeah lets jus do that sounds good? unless you have a problem with the water cycle too?
You probably don't realise this but beyond the actual tax income, a big reason progressives and socialists argue for high levels of taxation on the rich is because the goal is not having any rich people, because they are a harmful and distorting influence on our society and economy, not to mention statistically less happy than median earners. The best result would be an economy where wealth and the value it determines isnt stored in stupid rich people bullshit like paintings and rundown manor houses but productive factories and thriving apartment complexes.
Yes the rich will find ways to avoid taking any hits, but is the solution right to hit the poor? Also I would be interested to hear any ideas of solving the problems?
@@elizabethdavis9119 I believe it to be an intrinsic part of a capitalist system. Outside of regulation or incentives to push money down I don't think there is one. My doom and gloom and decoupling actions are based on this assumption.
If Labour is about equality, why do we have a two-tier pension system in which public sector workers get 4-6 times the amount of pension than people in the private sector who have contributed the same amount?
I wish we'd all come together and sort this mess out; and make sure it never happens thereafter ever again (/-_•)\ but we don't, we're weak and say "it's not perfect but it's the best we haaaave.." so we vote for it each 4 a half years and we get this sludge every election
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People who have the most rarely want to contribute anything, which is a people and education issue.
What rubbish
@@TimComley that's not a counter argument, that's just spouting
Depends what you classify as those with the most. What is that threshold
There is a horror game, Madison it's called. It's a pretty decent horror game, very much of the Amnesia tradition. However, one main issue I had with it was its use of incidental noises in the background, supposedly to maintain a sense of dread. These incidental noises were largely doors swinging on their creaky hinges. It become incredibly annoying once I noticed it, not scary at all. This interview, despite how good an interesting it is (truly, good work Ava), gave me real Madison vibes.
As long as these Rich people are only focused on huge profits. And the Employees cannot afford from their salary, a roof over their head a decent rent every month, Poverty, Austerity will not disappear!!
I would like to know who is supposed to hold this government to account for their actions and why are they not actually holding this government to account.
I sympathise with the unions, but they forget that there is the economic reality that inward investment (and thus job creation) does require an incentive structure for the wealthy. The world is super competitive now. When you can hire high-quality talent in emerging markets like Colombia, Malaysia, or Turkey for a fraction of the cost, or incorporate your business in the Cayman Islands or the UAE and pay little to no tax, why would you want to invest in the UK if the offer is ‘come here and we’ll shake you down’?
Stop imports of anything that can and should be made in the UK....grow more food for one
What's wrong with means testing? Try getting a mortgage or bank loan without it...
Nothing is wrong with means testing it's just the cut off point is too low
Nothing,but what is next,state pension same logic.
Actions speak louder than words. The labour party does the talk including the Conservative party. The issue that the consumer has is believing them and all they can say is oh it’s a long-term. People are suffering and enough is enough. People need to live have a roof over their head. I’ve warmed dignity and somewhere where to live the society as yet to sort this issue out. We shouldn’t be comparing ourselves with other countries or other people we should be getting on with a thing. It’s alright then saying well we’re gonna do this. We’re gonna do that just do it. We want to see people actually making those words into real action and if they don’t, I’ll give this party 18 months or less especially Rachel Reeves which at this moment time. It’s debatable whether or not she has credentials for being in that job it’s alright saying she has experience does she have the experience in accountancy? She might well have worked in the bank of England. It doesn’t mean to say she understands people or what the situation is at hand. Running the government is one thing but trying to run it as a household is another. She should put her biases on the side and concentrate solely on what the people want and what they need are by doing so you will not only make the country at a better place to work but also make the country a better place to live and bring up their families. The country cannot afford to wait numerous months down the line. It’s not good enough to rely on the stock market and the rich because the rich will always find a way to get away with it and these are loopholes. They have to resolve quickly. It’s not good enough and that’s it. Most of the audience yesterday were totally bored out of their Mind. They heard the old rhetoric they’ve had enough they want answers they want them now and they want solutions now it’s all saying well they’re coming down the line. They can’t wait that long. Their families used to keep they are futures and this is where it lies. You’ve got to spend money to make money And as soon as you realise it the better regardless of what the bank of England may or her advisers may say and it’s mainly her advisor saying this she should listen to the people more they are the ones should be running the country the politicians should be working on behalf of usjust putting it out there. Take care of your friends and family and bye for now.
"One reason for the existence of the “union leader” type is the high rate of salaries paid by the workers to their leaders; salaries supplemented by taking on extra jobs, speaking, or writing for the capitalist press. Their income puts them in another class. They eat different food, live in better houses, attend Ascot and royal garden parties, their wives are introduced to titled women, and generally they live in a new world. Any sympathy they had for the workers dies. Their hopes are not for an equalitarian society, but for higher salaries." - Trade Unionism or Syndicalism?
They are already paying the most 🙄
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Hope he finds a little time to talk to the people at the stall behind him, looks like he needs that chat.
Reeves' speech was a pile of horse manure. But it's too soon for him to be too critical.
Got money for dingy divers but not OAPS if Labour want them here then take one in. And when we have nowhere to put them will they get a tent or will single people lose there roof ?
I’d say y’all will look silly when overall spending goes up but people don’t actually care.
So we’re clear, austerity is when overall spending goes down.
I really hope they regulate media outlets, I’m tired of you all twisting the truth for barely any clicks.
so you are claiming that Labour will return the spending to pre-Austerity levels, because even keeping the dpearment budgets the same or slightly increasing them is still a form of austerity, basically anything other than a massive increase in spending to reach the pre-cut levels is definitionally a continuation of austerity. Now will they do even more austerity on top of the current austerity thats the real question and the answer is probably yes, at least within healthcare, education and transport they have made clear signals that further cuts or privatisation are incoming.
@@Kohanman I mean they’re also not doing what the tories did which is waste a bunch of public money on parties, expensive dinners, helicopters, swimming pools, horse stables, etc.
They wasted a lot of money on themselves. Say what you want about Starmer, he’s not gonna waste money like they did.
We need a few more tax bands. We need to get rid of the monarchy. Get rid of all gambling. Create jobs. Increase taxation of heavy cars and vehicles. Simple tax system. Get rid of trust funds. One house per family.
Id also like to hear Ava drop her Ts and Hs and replace th with ff and ou with aa.
Nigel put labour in by default votin
Absolute bollocks. Thise with the least or very little suffering under Starmers new Tories. New boss ,same as the old boss.
People keep saying “tax the rich” but are also happy to give millionaire pensioners free money. Weird.
"Union paymaster" hahaha, what a joke. I wake up every day *wishing* labour were loyal only to the unions! Labour are worse than a joke now.
Most income or most wealth. The very easiest target is income. The harder but more lucrative target is wealth ( made hard by the Treasury and HMRC ).
Tax evasion is 9 to 20 x more than benefit fraud yet HMRC investigators are a much smaller proportional team than the DWP’s.
Easy targets will always pay and the wealthy will always avoid their true fair share and must be considered as spongers.
I wouldn't trust ward he stiched up royalmail workers I'm looking forward to the opportunity to vote him out of his postion as many are.
This ye cant grow the economy wothout investment is so annoying, as if the state cant be that investment
Always private investment isnt it
We need private investment in infrastructure and business. And wealth distribution. 90% tax is coming 😂
Reeves's speech was the same old rhetoric, evasive & empty nonsense. Boring.
In order to court investors, you need to balance your books. We could have borrowed under genuine Tory austerity but borrowing now just condemns us to a future burden. Wages are to high to produce anything for profit as our currently failing economy is built on services. We need to work with the cards we currently have, short-term struggle, long-term our children get a better life. Hopefully.
Lol
Longest wage stagnation since the Napoleonic war
@@scoobleMaybe don’t vote for conservatives then.
I already pay a top marginal tax rate of 60% thanks to confiscation of personal allowance.
Try to take more and I will cut back and work less, the tax man will lose more than |I do.
Many more people will be worse off if you take this route whereas more will benefit if my efforts were incentivised instead.
Austerity is when the government spends less. Labour plans to balance the books (manifesto promise) and spend slightly more. That’s not austerity.
Kind of but not. Austerity is when there are difficult economic conditions which cause us non rich people to have to live on less and with restricted public spending. I'd say we are still living in austerity. There is still limited public spending and we are still struggling with less than we need. Basically, we are being served a slight bigger portion of gruel.
@@MrJones285 please sir, may i have some more
I see austerity as cutting public spending to balance the books. It should be short term, not 15 years. It has become sell off state assets, close local authority services, care homes boarded up, schools and hospitals crumbling and wage reductions in the public sector reduced by stealth.
Cut police, cut border force, cut hospital staff, rack up hospital waiting lists to 9m, let schools and hospital buildings crumble, but say you are going to build 40 new hospitals but don’t get beyond a handful.
Call any govt department helpline and the average wait time is 38 mins and reply to a letter is 4 months.
@@kevinshanahan6064 The government goes from owning public assets to then selling them off for a quick lump sum. That lump sum then gets pushed into the private sector. Take my public sector workplace, I earn 28k but because we're understaffed we have lots of contractors. These contractors earn 40-45k depending on qualifications for the same job I do. If you keep this practice up for let say 15years then we're slowing pushing public money out of circulation and into private pockets. People are making 150K+ from public sector jobs the actual in-house workers are getting 40-50k for. It is a stupid government model and it is done due to ideology and not to 'balance the books'
They will make 20bln on cuts so it is austerity
These people are so full of nonsense! They are trying to fix the hole in the budget!! You can’t relax rules now it’s been relax for 15 years!
If the unions with drew their donations then they would sit up and listens..Other wise your just peeing into the wind..🧑🎄
Remember "tax the rich" yeah that's not gonna happen. 😂
Hey incel, they’ve already committed to higher taxations for the wealthy. They’re also planning to close tax loopholes but that will take parliamentary time.
Parliament has only been in session for like what a month? Why don’t you go outside while you wait?
@hazyhayley7488 the fact that you had to resort to name calling just goes to show how utterly embarrassing you are. ✌️
@hazyhayley7488 also, there's a reason labour were out of power for 15 years, because they were that bad previously no one wanted them running the country. 😭😭😭
@@hazyhayley7488 I want to believe you - we'll see....
@@nathanaelsmith3553 Think of it this way, if they don’t we’re probably going to need to do something more extreme. The rich will let us die. So it’s us or them ya know?
she trying to save face at thee expense of lives get of your horse
Same old slogans
Tax property, tax portfolios, tax pensions.
What austerity plan has he dreamed up?
Can you describe austerity ?
What they don't understand is if high taxes created success, the UK would be booming. The reason the Country is in trouble is because the highest Taxes in 70 years are destroying the economy. Its the welfare state that's the real problem, no economy can afford to have 9.7 million people between the ages of 18 and 65 economically inactive. Investment only comes if there can be profits.
A very reductive take.
@@aarontait3952 but unfortunately true
The tax system still favours the concentration of wealth and distribution from the bottom to the top.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305not really when you look at the figures, I don't think talent or work ethic should be punished personally.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 that's easy to solve take risks with your money and work harder because thats where wealth comes from
Has this bloke read his party’s own manifesto?
This is not austerity in any way.
You sure right wing press have labelled it, they are dust
yet 10 thousand rich people leave per week divvies this lot
To become immigrants to where ? Will they not have to pay their fair share of tax in that country then ?
If they don't love our country enough to pay their tax here to make the country better then they are not as patriotic as they say they are really
@@chrismurphy6070 the point is that they already are paying so why pay more
@@chester6343rich people tend to pay less tax as they can afford teams that lost the amount of tax they pay.
@@LeedsHypnotherapist sure they do and they told you this did they?
@@chester6343 what and they told you they didn't, yes ?
It's called tax and those that earn the most do pay the most but you're probably referring to the high paid executives that take bonuses through share option schemes and benefit from lower taxes through those lower dividend tax rates but you will find that this was set out by Jeremy Corbyn back in 2019 and divdend tax rates and capital gains will likely be pushed up to the same level as income tax, whilst throwing private investors under a bus.
This means that private investors will move away from investing, like I have done and won't take any financial risks with their own capital.
Labour don't appreciate that it is the high risk of investment that can bring disaster as much as reward. People will stop taking those risks when this happens and look for more certainty, at a time when everything looks uncertain.
people who generate the wealth should benefit.....guess what happened in uganda when they chuck out all the indians(who were wealthiest and most industrious group) and confiscated their wealth under idi amin. The economy collapsed and didn't recover for 20 years. Uganda realized they made a a mistake and tried to entice them back. if you take too much wealth from people that deserve it and distribute to people that dont the same thing will happen. this is why wealth taxes don't work and are not popular
It’s not austerity if overall spending is up. Christ, get a dictionary!
Click bait nonsense. Again! 🙄
Union member all my life(62 now) no more from me as they give support to Starmer,'s starve squad political party.🏴
Most unions aren't affiliated with lab anymore. Might be worth checking in with your union too see if they are. The RMT as an example aren't
@@Mightypi GMB do give money to starmer,so that's finished for me.
Tax the rich until there pips squeak 🐁
Because you can’t be bothered to contribute?
Labour arnt left or centre. There the new Troy party.
Tax the wealthy? are you trying to give millionaire free gear Kier a heart attack 😱
I wish we'd all come together and sort this mess out; and make sure it never happens thereafter ever again (/-_•)\ but we don't, we're weak and say "it's not perfect but it's the best we haaaave.." so we vote for it each 4 a half years and we get this sludge every election
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