John McDonnell rails against the Labour government's austerity measures

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  • Опубликовано: 24 сен 2024
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  • @pauloates5972
    @pauloates5972 8 часов назад +20

    A true labour gentleman.
    He's the man that Labour should listen to and not take the whip from him.
    Starmer would rather surround himself with arselickers and remain a control freak.

  • @johndavies5985
    @johndavies5985 8 часов назад +13

    The Starmerites will conspire to remove John from the party for his 'disloyalty'.

  • @Red-px1fr
    @Red-px1fr 9 часов назад +15

    How long until John's purged by Keith Starmlin? They can certainly afford the seat.

  • @yc9129
    @yc9129 9 часов назад +17

    It's 2024 this myth of there being no money is rubbish. Children should not be hungry anywhere on the planet but especially in countries like ours

  • @LoneNut
    @LoneNut 8 часов назад +11

    I told you. Vote starmer - get a Tory government.

  • @johnrodgelatenemusic7262
    @johnrodgelatenemusic7262 9 часов назад +24

    Now THAT"S what the Labour Party should be all about! Well said John McD

  • @Hbw113
    @Hbw113 10 часов назад +21

    Best chancellor we never had

    • @TimComley
      @TimComley 10 часов назад

      If you like giving to slackers

    • @Hbw113
      @Hbw113 9 часов назад +7

      @@TimComley Ah yes, the slackers! They’re the reason Britain is in the state it’s is today, nothing to do with the super rich. You don’t by any chance write for the Daily Mail or the Telegraph do you?

    • @JAYFD2929
      @JAYFD2929 8 часов назад

      I should check on his economic credentials if I were you! Particularly when he was employed by his mate Ken Livingstone on the GLC before Ken decided to dispense with his economic skills.!

    • @haztec.
      @haztec. 4 часа назад

      he lost the election

  • @animalkind2644
    @animalkind2644 9 часов назад +23

    Too right John. So sick of hearing Labour ministers defending these policies by saying 'unfortunately we've got to make these really hard decisions' while in reality the destitute families and old people are making the really hard and sometimes life threatening decisions of whether to eat or heat.

    • @JAYFD2929
      @JAYFD2929 8 часов назад

      I am a pensioner myself and will not get the £200 allowance, but in the grand scheme of things, keeping the Triple Lock is far more important to me.
      Where was McDonnell when the Tories introduced a two-tier State Pension in 2016? Where older, more vulnerable pensioners receive £2000 per year less than younger ones. Where was he when the Tories broke an election pledge in 2021/22 by not paying the Triple Lock to pensioners? Where was he when the Tories froze the tax Free Allowance at £12500 when it should now be in the region of £15000? Many pensioners would consequently not be paying any tax at all, and others would be £500 a year better off.
      Sorry but McDonnell and his crew were nowhere to be seen, they are just taking any opportunity to grift and undermine the current leader!

  • @richardisaacs3574
    @richardisaacs3574 10 часов назад +20

    John McDonnell should have been a Labour Party leader, but such was his loyalty to Jeremy Corbyn he never put his name forward. A true socialist.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 9 часов назад +3

      In a country that leans to the right, I'm afraid "true socialism" will NEVER be accepted in this country. We have to take what we have been given, and do what we can. We have just had years of the alternative!.

    • @JAYFD2929
      @JAYFD2929 8 часов назад

      Utter make believe! McDonnell and Corbyn took it in turns to put their name forward...it was simply Corbyn's turn.

    • @hughneal1866
      @hughneal1866 5 часов назад +2

      @@paulbird3235I was born in 1952 and I and everyone of my generation benefited from the NHS, fully funded education, secure jobs with decent conditions won by the unions and even now I claim the state pension as a right bought by my contributions not a means tested handout. Socialism worked well until it was killed by greed by employers and also by workers when they had the whip hand. I am resigned to the fact that socialism will not come back in my lifetime but we did have it, it did work and for that I will be eternally grateful.

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 5 часов назад +2

      @@hughneal1866 I'm afraid socialism was killed off by thatcher in 1984. As a striking miner fighting to keep a job I know all about socialism and communities, but when you are fighting the state with very little assistance from your fellow workers you feel very isolated and alone. And didn't the great Margaret Thatcher say "there is no such thing as society" And as you say for a short period we did have socialism, but the right wing press destroyed everything we believed in, helped obviousley by Tory rule. This new government have had a terrible start but if they fail we may never see another labour government in our lifetime. I have a grandaughter aged twelve and I constantly fear for her future. You take care my friend.

    • @Touchlineteaser
      @Touchlineteaser 5 часов назад +1

      @@paulbird3235I thank you for your post. I share your concerns and am more pessimistic now than even before the election.

  • @devindersingh2618
    @devindersingh2618 10 часов назад +14

    Well said JMc

  • @dfcjohnston
    @dfcjohnston 8 часов назад +20

    Well said John. Keir Starmer is a real disappointment. I am sick of austerity and it does not have to be like this. We are a rich country and the rich should pay.

  • @toon9359
    @toon9359 10 часов назад +10

    I voted for Labour but I think Starmer is a Tory Corbyn wouldn’t of done this

  • @robertnewton6454
    @robertnewton6454 8 часов назад +24

    I am a state pensioner
    I am losing my winter fuel payment
    I have asthma so I have to keep the heating on
    I am fed up listening to politicians telling me
    That I must accept tough decisions
    So that I can access some
    Golden utopia
    That I know from past experience
    Will never arrive

    • @paulbird3235
      @paulbird3235 5 часов назад +1

      As a pensioner also, my wife and I have also lost the allowance, but what really grieves me is ---. On the morning of the election and after voting. My wife and I were in a que at Tesco and a little old lady who lives on her own said to me "I am in a dilema and I don't know who to vote for" I then convinced her not to vote Tory but to support Labour. I told her that they would look after her. I hope one day to bump into her and apologise.

  • @Ghengiskhansmum
    @Ghengiskhansmum 5 часов назад +6

    Starmer's new party is basically the second coming of the Tories 2010 coalition.

  • @terrapyn99
    @terrapyn99 10 часов назад +25

    Sir Starvalot is in the pockets of his corporate donors and the Labour Party exists in name only.

    • @Believe-you-me-
      @Believe-you-me- 9 часов назад +1

      Proof?

    • @kevingullick1596
      @kevingullick1596 8 часов назад +1

      ​@@Believe-you-me-😂

    • @scooble
      @scooble 8 часов назад +2

      @@Believe-you-me- ....i dunno, how about the £4m donation from an arms and oil industry hedge fund based in a tax haven?

    • @Believe-you-me-
      @Believe-you-me- 5 часов назад +2

      @@scooble Thats a donation 🤦‍♀️. Show me what they got in return. I can wait….

  • @Dean-qe9cl
    @Dean-qe9cl 10 часов назад +10

    Well just get Keir Starmer to have a sausage.

  • @indricotherium4802
    @indricotherium4802 10 часов назад +9

    Is John serious about staying in a party that could happily rename itself the New Conservative Friends of Israel Party?

    • @archvaldor
      @archvaldor 8 часов назад

      I think the idea is that he stay and fight to change the party. I don't agree with the strategy but I respect it.

    • @indricotherium4802
      @indricotherium4802 7 часов назад

      @@archvaldor : it's really about acknowledging the impossible. Starmer's made sure the left will never again get the traction to win Labour back.

  • @kevinwilde
    @kevinwilde 10 часов назад +16

    john Mc,Donnell true Labour. definitely not starmer's Reeves their appeasing conservative government.

  • @MrGavinBoyd
    @MrGavinBoyd 9 часов назад +13

    “Austerity for you, freebies for me.” Sir Kid Starver

  • @takenoprisoners-u3x
    @takenoprisoners-u3x 8 часов назад +3

    One single solitary Labour MP who isnt a RED TORY. Wont be long before he loses the whip.

  • @darkhistories69
    @darkhistories69 11 часов назад +12

    Apart from that, lets stop tax loop holes and make sure that the wealthy ACTUALLY pay tax. Not an unfair amount of tax just a fair share. 40% for the richest without fail.

  • @KevinSmith-ki7yl
    @KevinSmith-ki7yl 8 часов назад +5

    Is John the last of the almost extinct real Labour MPs.

    • @neils4886
      @neils4886 4 часа назад

      Nah, just a British hating Marxist.

  • @dominiclane8538
    @dominiclane8538 8 часов назад +9

    End of austerity while bringing in austerity lmao .you could not make it up

    • @janetmalcolm6191
      @janetmalcolm6191 7 часов назад +1

      Been shown not to work so why repeat things?

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

      Austerity is simply the burden gifted us by not collecting all due taxes.

  • @BrianWillcox-qp2hr
    @BrianWillcox-qp2hr 10 часов назад +2

    " it began with a man too long without sleep to continue his journey"..

  • @normanstratford9329
    @normanstratford9329 10 часов назад +2

    The only one that voted for keeping the WFA. Labour does not seem to know what to do, Starmer says the opposite to what he has done. He wanted to help the pensioners and ended up with making them poorer. The cost of fuel has gone up and this makes things far more difficult. Trade unions want the decision to be reversed and I hope that they have some influence before things get too bad.

  • @illlumination
    @illlumination 9 часов назад +3

    Starmer out!

  • @moshudoduwade219
    @moshudoduwade219 9 часов назад +5

    Terrible Conference!🤦‍♀️

  • @paulross2023
    @paulross2023 3 часа назад +2

    Top man, sir, a true brit

  • @andrewwatts2443
    @andrewwatts2443 10 часов назад +4

    you can't CUT your way to growth, it never has and never will work. The Government needs to put is big boy pants on and start taxing those that actually have enormous sums of money. Start targeted problem solving for long term solutions rather than patching things because they look or sound good.

    • @user-pp9yk3tu4z
      @user-pp9yk3tu4z 9 часов назад

      where is that level where you consider people to have enormous sums of money?

  • @raymondelf7520
    @raymondelf7520 10 часов назад +4

    starmer what sausage

  • @jamesconnolly3827
    @jamesconnolly3827 7 часов назад +3

    Talk Talk it's a party that no longer represent me a solid tu member former miner. When the tories are in power you know who your enemies are, when labour is in power you don't know who your allies are. So now Alba saor agus Alba gu bràth

  • @PaulMitchell-t5i5i
    @PaulMitchell-t5i5i 11 часов назад +7

    I'm at that age where my idea of a wild night involves a bubble bath and a good book💝

  • @klassonder2508
    @klassonder2508 10 часов назад +2

    Free Sausages for Palestine…😮

  • @williamfence566
    @williamfence566 10 часов назад +3

    Sounds great . Won't happen

  • @RobinHarding-ep1ud
    @RobinHarding-ep1ud 9 часов назад +8

    Labour as much use as a hand brake in a canoe .

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

      It is now. In the past it gave you the best of society.

  • @Gwalion
    @Gwalion 5 часов назад +1

    With Starmer at the helm? - yeah right

  • @haydoncooper3744
    @haydoncooper3744 10 часов назад +7

    Lobe him or Loathe John he is sticking to his beliefs and for the first time I am with him on this.

    • @anonymoushuman8962
      @anonymoushuman8962 10 часов назад

      But his beliefs are flawed and destructive to the economy and to the country

  • @lsmoulton
    @lsmoulton 3 часа назад

    Thank you John.....a decent man.

  • @davidharwood9552
    @davidharwood9552 10 часов назад +3

    John. Respect but we need transparency. This is lacking by Starmer leading the party

  • @RobinHarding-ep1ud
    @RobinHarding-ep1ud 9 часов назад +3

    Always thought mc Donald was a lefty lunatic ……first time ever he sounds sane..ish here . !

    • @janetmalcolm6191
      @janetmalcolm6191 7 часов назад +1

      He always talks the truth. At least one sane person.

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

      You were always wrong, protecting Public Services is hardly lunacy, more Patriotic.

  • @johnfaulkner6776
    @johnfaulkner6776 3 часа назад

    Come on John - join up with Jeremy and form alt-Labour!

  • @FreeFragUK
    @FreeFragUK Час назад

    Two cheeks of the same arse. It was clear to anyone paying attention to Starmer's behaviour over the last couple of years, what sort of party we'd end up with with Starmer in charge.

  • @BrianGreen-g5l5l
    @BrianGreen-g5l5l 11 часов назад +2

    Relationship status: debating whether to shave my legs or wear pants all winter😛

  • @NeonVisual
    @NeonVisual 11 часов назад +27

    The people complaining about means testing a pensioner benefit are the same people who voted time and again for disabled people to have benefits removed or restricted, for the 2 child cap, for young people to be given mandatory national service, for the removal of the £20 universal credit uplift, for everyone's pay to stagnate for over a decade, all while having extremely generous triple locked pension increases well above wages and inflation, and these very same people are now complaining that the free handouts to rich people are withdrawn.
    1 in 4 pensioners are in millionaire households. They should be getting nothing from the state.

    • @samuelstevens248
      @samuelstevens248 11 часов назад +6

      They also voted for brexit. 25% of pensioners have at least a million in assets

    • @NeonVisual
      @NeonVisual 11 часов назад +3

      @@samuelstevens248 You do realise that the majority of brexit voters were NOT pensioners, right? Just because their age group were more likely to vote for Brexit doesn't mean most pensioners voted for brexit, or most workers voted to remain.
      Do you also realise you've been ranting for nearly a decade now?

    • @siskinedge
      @siskinedge 11 часов назад

      Until the goverment invests in infrastructure, we cant have the economic growth to ensure the pension exsists when I or my neice and nephews need it. capitalism is a plant that demands care and maintainance, thatcherism abandons the plant, ebay's the state and blames minorities for the conseqences. weak men bring hard times, bruh the boomers should take a small sip of what they sew.

    • @George._.M
      @George._.M 10 часов назад +8

      I'm complaining and none of this applies to me. The issue isn't the concept of means testing, it's that they are doing it at a level leaving many poorer pensioners unable to heat their homes.

    • @Barbarapape
      @Barbarapape 10 часов назад +2

      I don't know which country ypu are living in, but it is not the same one that the vast majority of us live in.
      There are some very rich people who are also pensioners, but the vast majority are not rich.
      Re the triple lock, next year the state pension will rise by 4% not the 22 or 14% that has been awarded to
      junior doctors and train drivers.

  • @danielcollinson4456
    @danielcollinson4456 4 часа назад

    John needs to leave the Labour party. However, he probably won't have to as i believe he won't have the wipe restored.

  • @BrianWillcox-qp2hr
    @BrianWillcox-qp2hr 10 часов назад

    " John McDonnell has a farm e i e i o

  • @peacetheworld...........7105
    @peacetheworld...........7105 10 часов назад

    Labour party bed with people who got Money.......... forget they are not Winning this??.........even the opposite Tories who would Never share food with others...........would makes sense........... damn.....

  • @stothAjs
    @stothAjs 4 часа назад

    i hate this labour gov but we have to be careful that we dont forget to praise the raise for striking workers and we dont explain the dangers in increasing 2 child policy. having benefits increase with child birth also increases crime rate in urban areas. we saw how bad that was 20 years ago. women having kids to get paid and be 1st on council house ladder was not sound policy. its not a good measure and we should look at other ways to distribute benefits aside from numbers of children.

  • @fintamaria2429
    @fintamaria2429 6 часов назад

    👏👏👏👏

  • @paulmarshall4793
    @paulmarshall4793 3 часа назад

    I'll have 'im as PM I think 👍

  • @kevingullick1596
    @kevingullick1596 8 часов назад +5

    Millionaire Free gear Kier wont feel austerity thats for sure

  • @CliveDunmall
    @CliveDunmall 10 часов назад

    John I think you are great but I don't agree with universal payments ,much better to means test by taxation . Ok thats not happening but it may do in the future. Please wait until the budget before making judgements John. Remember currently tax thresholds are frozen till 2026 unless we hear otherwise.

  • @Oralmoot
    @Oralmoot 10 часов назад +1

    Good luck with that because john will looking in from the outside hoping, while Labour new paymasters will get everything they want.

  • @Crouchy232323
    @Crouchy232323 11 часов назад +1

    *"Labour government"*

    • @ohk749
      @ohk749 10 часов назад +3

      🤮 Uni-party 🤮

  • @junglist_30
    @junglist_30 10 часов назад

    This guy is raw as fuck 🤡

  • @californiadreamin8423
    @californiadreamin8423 11 часов назад +4

    Didn’t Ken Livingston sack John McDonnell ? That takes some beating. The right hand man to JC in 2019 which led to electoral catastrophe.

    • @Crouchy232323
      @Crouchy232323 11 часов назад +9

      Jeremy Corbyn would have done far more to bring back the sausages than Sir Kier Starmer has

    • @matthewotooleis
      @matthewotooleis 10 часов назад +1

      Corbyn and McDonnell got more votes than Starmer.

    • @californiadreamin8423
      @californiadreamin8423 10 часов назад

      @@Crouchy232323 Really….just why did he impose a 3 line whip to support the Tories get Article 50 through parliament, and he didn’t even know what the Tories were planning ? 4% drop in GDP buys an awful lot of sausages.

    • @burtyactual3272
      @burtyactual3272 10 часов назад

      you are part of a disgusting class war, the labour party should represent and be staffed by members of the working class from multiple trades & backgrounds the working class and Under class people need agency and representation. not to be managed by a bunch Of middle class professional politicians, we have at least two other parties that fit that bill. You and others like you have selfishly turned a member funded party into a party funded by capital, it's plain wrong. You are a full time troll and a coward.

  • @OanKnight
    @OanKnight 10 часов назад +3

    John McDonnell should have the deceny to join his friend Jeremy in obscurity.

    • @janetmalcolm6191
      @janetmalcolm6191 7 часов назад +1

      Definitely not he does a lot for people apparently. That is the job MP's should be getting on with!

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

      McDonnell wants to improve public education too.

  • @allykhan8594
    @allykhan8594 10 часов назад +2

    Print more money or raise taxes, both will not sort this out. Children in poverty first question: what are their parents doing to sort it out??...

    • @monkeykingeater
      @monkeykingeater 10 часов назад +5

      So it's your view that only parents are responsible for the wellfare of their children?

    • @dietkebab
      @dietkebab 6 часов назад

      @@monkeykingeater No. However, they have the lion share of responsibility.

    • @Titus9508
      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

      Have you seen just how much tax goes uncollected? 40 billion 22/23 alone, I think that may help a little.

  • @simonbamford8441
    @simonbamford8441 10 часов назад

    A yesterday man squawks.

  • @Cherrytune386
    @Cherrytune386 10 часов назад +2

    Awwwww go and run to Corbyn. Starmer is in power now!

    • @noramartin96
      @noramartin96 5 часов назад +1

      Rubbish! Power that's a frightening scenario!

    • @Robbie-Rabbit
      @Robbie-Rabbit 32 минуты назад

      @@noramartin96 🤡

  • @lorrainekerr8749
    @lorrainekerr8749 10 часов назад

    He should join Corbyns party.

  • @yetidodger6650
    @yetidodger6650 10 часов назад

    If you're worried about an old person not being able to afford to heat their home then go and help them.

    • @noramartin96
      @noramartin96 5 часов назад +3

      Thank you, are you making me an offer I can't refuse?

  • @timwoodger7896
    @timwoodger7896 10 часов назад

    Politically it makes sense for Starmer to go further right. The left are so fractured now and have no option but to vote labour to keep reform U.K. out.
    Starmer knows this and will go after the Tory voters that will not vote for a far right reform U.K. but will vote for a new conservative Labour Party.
    The next election is all that matters to Starmer and it will be an election fought on right wing policies between three right wing parties. The question is will the conservatives join reform in a coalition or will labour join the conservatives in a coalition to defeat reform U.K. if the left does not stand by Labour?? Starmer’s gamble of purging the left is paying off and that leaves Britain with right wing governments for the next 10-20 years!! Reform really could be in power sooner than people realise. Either way the left are far too fractured to be any opposition to the three main right wing parties.
    Starmer could go much further right than the torys have managed so far as there’s no opposition in parliament to stop him from pushing right wing policies through parliament.

  • @anonymoushuman8962
    @anonymoushuman8962 10 часов назад +1

    Redistribution of wealth does not work.
    Its destructive. It’s the politics of envy and it’s cynical.
    You need to provide a framework for growth for individuals so that they can start business create wealth and become prosperous.

    • @LukeofSmeg
      @LukeofSmeg 9 часов назад

      It's not the politics of envy, the current economic system is simple not sustainable.
      The current system means the rich can basically say "do as I say or I'll leave or not invest" and get their way until the end of time.
      And yet the rich increasingly see any form of investment that creates jobs as too much risk and too much management.
      They'd prefer to invest in speculative assets, especially pump and dump scams, one of the worst being cryptocurrency for example, which provides basically no jobs and wastes extreme amounts of energy. Asset stripping companies are another example of terrible investments that previously didn't exist when this economic model was first adopted, these issues were not accounted for at the time.
      Take those issues on one hand, and then add on automation and AI...
      And then add the fact that housing costs have increased well above inflation, with pay increasing at a rate lower than inflation, energy bills going through the roof, despite energy companies making massive profits...oh and did I mention we're giving these energy companies over 11 billion pounds (often higher) every year to keep fuel costs "low" (even though they're increasingly rapidly)?
      Where is the money for ordinary people coming from?
      This is not a sustainable economic system, there logically must be a breaking point.
      A truly wise government would act before that breaking point erupts into chaos, rather than pretend the current system is fine and continue bending over backwards for the very richest.
      Pointing this out has sweet FA to do with envy or jealousy. It's honestly a pathetic excuse to suggest anyone criticising excessive wealth or private schools for instance are just doing so because they are jealous. It's about fairness and decency. If some people are jealous that's up to them but I for once criticise them because they are elitist and reinforce class supremacy, which shouldn't still be a thing in 2024, and yet your framing as any argument against them as being the politics of envy proves that it is still a very real issue.

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      @Titus9508 4 часа назад

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  • @DorothyThompson-u8t
    @DorothyThompson-u8t 11 часов назад +1

    This video is the best way to forget all your problems and just laugh. I recommend it to everyone💋

    • @anllpp
      @anllpp 10 часов назад +3

      ❤😂❤ well why not. If you don't laugh you'll cry 😮😢😂