Another masterful production and showcase of a high quality installation. This video will be very useful to the WRX CVT community, myself included. Much appreciated.
Absolutely amazing detailed installation video! This is truly what the CVT WRX community has been hoping for a long time now so seriously big thanks for putting in all the effort on top of the install to actually record and detail all the steps. This will be a huge help to many (including myself) without a doubt so on behalf of the community a huge thank you! :) Just a quick question for you, I love the thermostat idea you came up with (helps to solve the issues for folks that get cold temps annually during winters). However, from knowing that basically once the trans is up to operating temp then anything past that (in order to prolong the fluid life and the CVT itself as well) it's best to keep the temp as low as possible from there, and considering that 180*F is a good drop but there is still some more headroom to lower it further I think, just curious is there a reason you have chosen this particular thermostat? From my small research I actually found out that Mishimoto makes their own fluid thermostat that is configurable between 160/185/200 degrees so I'm debating getting this thermostat instead and pairing it with the 160F piece so it can open a little sooner and be more effective at cooling. Just curious if you have seen this one before making your decision? * Thermostat (configured to 185F by default) - www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMOP-EXTFC-Line-Thermostat-Gold/dp/B00LINCY52/ * 160F Sandwhich Plate (to configure the thermostat to open at 160F instead) - www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMTS-SPT-71-Replacement-Thermostat-Thermostatic/dp/B009AMOWVM/ Additionally I also found another thermostat rated for 165F but looks to be much more expensive, just wanted to throw out that the option is there though - www.amazon.com/Improved-Racing-Transmission-Differential-Thermostat/dp/B00L0QGBV0/ Curious to get your thoughts on getting one of these over the thermostat you got?
I greatly appreciate your development of this content. We just got a 2020 OBXT with CVT and I intend to invest in a cooler utilizing the thermostat like you did. I move a lot and never can be sure what kind of environment ill be living in for the next year or two.
Great video and explanation about why a thermostat for the fluid is necessary in cold climates. I recently put in a Hayden 696 trans cooler which has a built in thermal by-pass. It utilizes a by pass circuit within the cooler until the fluid warms up and starts to open at 160 degrees and fully opens at 180 degrees. My application was in a 2015 Altima with CVT and I also live in NY State and completely agree with your reasoning for using a thermostatic device.
The transmission Cooler is now A standard in CVT Subaru wrx 2022 ... This Is a prof that some times the after market parts makers Knows More Than These Car Engineers Who Developed the Linertronic CVT.
When you add the HT CVT fluid to the cooler, is it also recommended to change the trans fluid to the HT CVT fluid as well? Or is adding the HT to the cooler alone sufficient?
Others are buying factory cooler with four tubes and install together with aftermarket transmission cooler, and others just disconnect pipes from the current installed factory transmission cooler and take the pipes from the after market transmission cooler and connect it to the return hose pipe and the inlet pipe of the transmission direct. What is your opinion, what do you think is the best? ?
Really nice video! Was it not necessary to bleed the air from the lines and add some CVT fluid to account for the increased volume in the lines? It looks to me that the air in the lines would accumulate in the cooler and displace part of the fluid from it. Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
Just show your video for the cooler install. Great detail and clean work. I have a 2019 forester sport and I want to add a cooler for pulling a trailer. I live in California, not sure if I need the inside stat. Any thoughts? Good job on the in install.
hey I have a 2016wrx cvt. I have a mishimoto intake and nameless catback exhaust. I plan on putting PRL intermediate pipe when it gets warmer. will I need the cvt cooler? I don't track my car, I just daily it and my commute isn't long and im in upstate NY. I don't want to install it and have transmission issues. any input would be great.
thanks man. very clear instructions, video editing is superb. i really appreciate your effort to share all information in this vid :) can't thanks you enough!
Love the install video it helped me tremendously with a similar install on my Forester XT. Now that we're in The heat Of Summer up here in New York how are your temperatures with this setup?
Excellent video. I watched it because I am researching what I might do to help cool my Lancer cvt. Wondering if you were concerned about a fluid pressure drop, especially with such a long installation?
Did you have any trouble with the thermostat connections? 1 of them was insanely hard for me to get in and it was not cross threaded. I was thinking that this cant be right but all 4 are in there now.
Also used RED LINE, Non Slip CVT High Performance Fluid as I couldn’t get any from the dealers due to supply shortages. AMSoil was too far but RED LINE was shipped via Amazon.
Wanna do this on my cvt legacy. Looks like the same process. Only concern is if the orientation of the cooler is the same. Wish you could have gotten a better view of the connections. Don’t want to end up installing the in/out backwards.
Hey bruh, would this work on a JX35 with stock cvt cooler? My cvt is hitting 100F while idling. Thinking about adding another cooler with a fan and a switch.
@@akqjtn Ok so you did remove it. I've seen people use hose mender, but the hose no longer serves a purpose so I don't know why people keep it. Maybe it was hard to remove?
Nice.. i want to install one on my XV, i bought a core and hoses can it be installed directly to the oil cooler without the thermostat? i mean the oil inlet to the core and from the core back to the oem cooler?
This video is very appreciated and thank for the hard work in developing this. The only question I have is; what did you do with the OEM hose once you removed it from the CVT return and warmer unit? Sorry if this has been asked previously but I didn't see anything. Thanks!
@@akqjtn, great and thanks. I was picturing the OEM plumbing wrong by thinking the return and warmer unit had separate lines, when it should only be a short single hose connected both that you removed and put this cooler between these points. Thanks again.
Thanks for another great video. It looks like you mounted the cooler with the "M" logo facing the engine. Could you have mounted it facing away from the engine (with the included mounting brackets)? I look forward to your new winter CTV temp numbers and later your spring/summer numbers. It also looks like you have everything you need for an AWD tire wear video. ;)
Random thought, but you should look into a brake master cylinder brace and see if that ~$150 mod will improve the brakes ahead of replacing the pads. From talking with a local tuning shop, part of the issue we're seeing with our brakes is because the master cylinder is flexing more than it should, which is causing... weird... brake response.
Such a great video I’ve been waiting for. But out of curiosity. The thermostats won’t open until 180 degrees which my cvt barely reaches maybe cause it’s winter in NJ never checked temps in the summer yet. You trust this bypass with mods?
Boost & Shutter yea I’m just trying to decide if i really start modding. I want the protection of the cooler but if 90% of the times temps barely go above 180ish what’s the point. I know people that bypassed the stock cooler completely and temps are in the 160s constant and they say it heats up quickly
Boost & Shutter so pretty much if you start to mod the vehicle as the fluid temp goes up the thermostats will open up and cool the fluid like normal but when it’s under normal driving conditions it runs almost as a standard unit. I have a forester XT i plan on doing some stuff eventually but probly just intake bpv and egr and tgv deletes with aos i don’t plan on racing it or anything just trying to get a little more power out of it and protect as much as i can from the dirty valve issues that plague these DI motors
How’s the cooler working. Was gonna use this on my forester xt and can’t decide on by passing the stock cooler and going straight aftermarket or using the thermostat you got
Boost & Shutter i know your on the Facebook pages I’m on. If you can shoot me a message I’d like to talk about thins install if you have a few. Curious about a few things
That short tubing loop on the stock cooler/warmer says to me that they anticipated the need for additional cooling capacity for the CVT in certain use cases. Or they just felt like creating an additional failure point just 'cause.
May sound like a dumb question. But does anyone know if this mounting configuration works with the 14-18 Forester XT. Same FA20 engine, I would assume since the forester is bigger, that there will be ample room for mounting. This is the cooler i would go with but just thought Id ask before attempting to build my own
I would avoid using teflon tape. Last thing you want is teflon in your transmission. What I dont understand is how you bottomed out those fittings. Mine wont budge.
@@akqjtn I understand but for the average driver a transmission cooler is not required. Maybe under continuous heavy trailer hauling in the city or hilly countryside but even this is not likely as today's transmission leave the largest transmission source of heat (CVT and conventional automatics) out of the picture; the torque converter. Today's torque converters have internal clutches that are locked up shortly after initial pull away from a stop. Clutches in CVT's or conventional planetary gear transmissions don' do any significant slipping and so don't generate any heat. If they did, they would fail. Gear sets and Variators are low heat generators also.
You have to make sure no debris gets into the cvt fluid and all of its connecting parts. That would destroy the cvt. I wouldn’t recommend using saw tools near a cvt
The most annoying part of this cooling is that i don't have that cvt cooler you disconnected the hoses from. And every single guide or thread i read all have it, so ppl just integrate aftermarket coolers into already installed one
massive fuckup.. lines go on the TOP!!!!!! never both on the bottom ffs epic fail! 26min mark either you forgot to FILL after running the lines through to the thermostat,, so as to eliminate as much air as is reasonable before connecting the lines (yes its not easily done to eliminate it all esp wo spilling but it is doable to fill so only a few inches of hose has air as they are being connected from the cooler. and yes the pan level still needs to be checked/filled etc but this not only helps avoid issues there but avoids potential air gapes being big enough to impact the fluid level the thermostat needs to be bled through to the cooler and not everyone will remember to do that so this precaution helps avoid any potential low level of fluid in the tranny also upgraded lines etc but didnt change from crappy NPT to better fittings that are far better quality and far less of a failure point for the few bucks needed at this point its really a no brainer. /facepalm
Another masterful production and showcase of a high quality installation. This video will be very useful to the WRX CVT community, myself included. Much appreciated.
Absolutely amazing detailed installation video! This is truly what the CVT WRX community has been hoping for a long time now so seriously big thanks for putting in all the effort on top of the install to actually record and detail all the steps. This will be a huge help to many (including myself) without a doubt so on behalf of the community a huge thank you! :)
Just a quick question for you, I love the thermostat idea you came up with (helps to solve the issues for folks that get cold temps annually during winters). However, from knowing that basically once the trans is up to operating temp then anything past that (in order to prolong the fluid life and the CVT itself as well) it's best to keep the temp as low as possible from there, and considering that 180*F is a good drop but there is still some more headroom to lower it further I think, just curious is there a reason you have chosen this particular thermostat?
From my small research I actually found out that Mishimoto makes their own fluid thermostat that is configurable between 160/185/200 degrees so I'm debating getting this thermostat instead and pairing it with the 160F piece so it can open a little sooner and be more effective at cooling. Just curious if you have seen this one before making your decision?
* Thermostat (configured to 185F by default) - www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMOP-EXTFC-Line-Thermostat-Gold/dp/B00LINCY52/
* 160F Sandwhich Plate (to configure the thermostat to open at 160F instead) - www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMTS-SPT-71-Replacement-Thermostat-Thermostatic/dp/B009AMOWVM/
Additionally I also found another thermostat rated for 165F but looks to be much more expensive, just wanted to throw out that the option is there though - www.amazon.com/Improved-Racing-Transmission-Differential-Thermostat/dp/B00L0QGBV0/
Curious to get your thoughts on getting one of these over the thermostat you got?
I greatly appreciate your development of this content. We just got a 2020 OBXT with CVT and I intend to invest in a cooler utilizing the thermostat like you did. I move a lot and never can be sure what kind of environment ill be living in for the next year or two.
Very detailed. Keep making detailed videos like this 👍
More to come!
Can’t say enough about how helpful and detailed this video is, thank you for the excellent guide!
As soon as you said NY, I knew you were my guy to watch. 🎉
Great video and explanation about why a thermostat for the fluid is necessary in cold climates. I recently put in a Hayden 696 trans cooler which has a built in thermal by-pass. It utilizes a by pass circuit within the cooler until the fluid warms up and starts to open at 160 degrees and fully opens at 180 degrees. My application was in a 2015 Altima with CVT and I also live in NY State and completely agree with your reasoning for using a thermostatic device.
Mishimoto needs to hire you to do their videos. Try getting the TMIC and Charge pipe that install was a pain in the ass. Thanks for the video!
The transmission Cooler is now A standard in CVT Subaru wrx 2022 ... This Is a prof that some times the after market parts makers Knows More Than These Car Engineers Who Developed the Linertronic CVT.
The JDM WRX came stock with a cooler. Its only in the USA that they removed it.
When you add the HT CVT fluid to the cooler, is it also recommended to change the trans fluid to the HT CVT fluid as well? Or is adding the HT to the cooler alone sufficient?
Only a couple minutes in and I gotta say that this is one of the best instructional videos I've seen on any installation on my wrx
Interested to know how has it been holding up after all this time.
this video explained how to install even better than the mishi video did, Especially with the tips!
The best DIY video I've ever seen. Thanks!
Others are buying factory cooler with four tubes and install together with aftermarket transmission cooler, and others just disconnect pipes from the current installed factory transmission cooler and take the pipes from the after market transmission cooler and connect it to the return hose pipe and the inlet pipe of the transmission direct. What is your opinion, what do you think is the best? ?
This is an incredibly helpful and thorough video! Thank you so much!!!
you dont need to somehow "burp" the cvt of air after the install?
I have got a 2022 Subaru outback 2.4 L turbo TR690 CVT your Wrx motor looks identical to mine. I was wondering if that cooler would work on mine
Do the vibrant hose upgrade come in different colours or just black?
Excellent instructional, great job on the thinking element. Thank you.
What did you do with the hoses you detached from the cooler? Did you just leave them to flail about or you secured them somehow?
Are the inlet (return) ports labeled by the manufacturer as inlet? How did you know that was the return port?
Really nice video! Was it not necessary to bleed the air from the lines and add some CVT fluid to account for the increased volume in the lines? It looks to me that the air in the lines would accumulate in the cooler and displace part of the fluid from it. Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
Just show your video for the cooler install. Great detail and clean work. I have a 2019 forester sport and I want to add a cooler for pulling a trailer. I live in California, not sure if I need the inside stat. Any thoughts? Good job on the in install.
Great Video! I'm just curious. Did you buy 2 of the vibrant hoses? Or was 1 set enough?
I have a doubt, shouldn't the new lines be purged? Congratulations by the way! One of the best RUclipsrs that explains a tutorial in detail.
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hey I have a 2016wrx cvt. I have a mishimoto intake and nameless catback exhaust. I plan on putting PRL intermediate pipe when it gets warmer. will I need the cvt cooler? I don't track my car, I just daily it and my commute isn't long and im in upstate NY. I don't want to install it and have transmission issues. any input would be great.
thanks man. very clear instructions, video editing is superb. i really appreciate your effort to share all information in this vid :) can't thanks you enough!
Would you recommend doing the thermostat if I liv3 in utah?
Fantastic installation video, very detailed and great camera work. This video gave me confidence to do it!
Any sort of maintenance for this cooler?|
Or does getting the cvt transmission fluid changed count?
Can u have the M facing the outside or just the inside?
Love the install video it helped me tremendously with a similar install on my Forester XT. Now that we're in The heat Of Summer up here in New York how are your temperatures with this setup?
Excellent video. I watched it because I am researching what I might do to help cool my Lancer cvt. Wondering if you were concerned about a fluid pressure drop, especially with such a long installation?
Did you have any trouble with the thermostat connections? 1 of them was insanely hard for me to get in and it was not cross threaded. I was thinking that this cant be right but all 4 are in there now.
Great video, clear and concise. Not weird stuff, just a solid video.
Also used RED LINE, Non Slip CVT High Performance Fluid as I couldn’t get any from the dealers due to supply shortages. AMSoil was too far but RED LINE was shipped via Amazon.
Wanna do this on my cvt legacy. Looks like the same process. Only concern is if the orientation of the cooler is the same. Wish you could have gotten a better view of the connections. Don’t want to end up installing the in/out backwards.
Hey bruh, would this work on a JX35 with stock cvt cooler? My cvt is hitting 100F while idling. Thinking about adding another cooler with a fan and a switch.
I have a question for the CVT transmission I have a same car WXR 2020 and I want to modify the car so just think require
Cvt oil change are you have video?
I need such a thing to be fixed on my Nissan serena !! Very proffesional
Is this applicable to any cvt transmission? I have honda crv turbo and hesitate when it comes for towing regarding the durability of cvt.
Quick question, what did you do with the original hose that went into the stock cooler? From the video it looks like you removed it.
@@akqjtn Ok so you did remove it. I've seen people use hose mender, but the hose no longer serves a purpose so I don't know why people keep it. Maybe it was hard to remove?
Nice.. i want to install one on my XV, i bought a core and hoses can it be installed directly to the oil cooler without the thermostat?
i mean the oil inlet to the core and from the core back to the oem cooler?
Deficient Amazon listing for the Vibrant hose -- what are the dimensions, ID and how much hose does one get for the money ?
Does it have to be installed upside-down? Meaning tubing facing the ground (M symbol flipped upside-down)
Would this be about the same for the 2015 subaru Impreza?
Was there a big change in temperature after installing the cooler? Planning to do a custome tune with this
This video is very appreciated and thank for the hard work in developing this. The only question I have is; what did you do with the OEM hose once you removed it from the CVT return and warmer unit? Sorry if this has been asked previously but I didn't see anything. Thanks!
@@akqjtn, great and thanks. I was picturing the OEM plumbing wrong by thinking the return and warmer unit had separate lines, when it should only be a short single hose connected both that you removed and put this cooler between these points. Thanks again.
Do you need to have a AP and tune wit this cooler?
I wanna do this to my 2014 outback, as I am a spirited driver, and like to rev it a bit.
do you have video of after you installed and test? i want to see how it go! im about order them for my stage 2 i need them as well!
Bro you detailed this video so good amazing job keep it up
Hey i have a maxima 2011 and it’s a cvt transmission. I was thinking of getting a transmission cooler. Does this brand have for Nissan maxima?
Probably yes
Thanks for another great video. It looks like you mounted the cooler with the "M" logo facing the engine. Could you have mounted it facing away from the engine (with the included mounting brackets)? I look forward to your new winter CTV temp numbers and later your spring/summer numbers. It also looks like you have everything you need for an AWD tire wear video. ;)
can you install this on a 2015 impreza 2.0i? not for power but for long periods of driving
My 2016 cvt impreza needs this, because after going 180-195 it for about 10 minutes the cvt overheat light comes on
It might be trivial to you or the community, but is there an oil change video coming?
Your videos are so good and informative!
Please make an cvt oil change thanks
How do you assure that the oil is running in those lines? Is there a pump or something???
Awesome 👏 video I saved for reference when Install mine
Random thought, but you should look into a brake master cylinder brace and see if that ~$150 mod will improve the brakes ahead of replacing the pads. From talking with a local tuning shop, part of the issue we're seeing with our brakes is because the master cylinder is flexing more than it should, which is causing... weird... brake response.
@@akqjtn Installs not to hard, still testing it, but it's looking promising thus far.
My OB 2016 is still at 50 celcius after 40min drive.. was - 15 celsius outside though :P maybe the cvt last longer in colder climates...
Thank you for the video 👍🏻
Such a great video I’ve been waiting for. But out of curiosity. The thermostats won’t open until 180 degrees which my cvt barely reaches maybe cause it’s winter in NJ never checked temps in the summer yet. You trust this bypass with mods?
Boost & Shutter yea I’m just trying to decide if i really start modding. I want the protection of the cooler but if 90% of the times temps barely go above 180ish what’s the point. I know people that bypassed the stock cooler completely and temps are in the 160s constant and they say it heats up quickly
Boost & Shutter so pretty much if you start to mod the vehicle as the fluid temp goes up the thermostats will open up and cool the fluid like normal but when it’s under normal driving conditions it runs almost as a standard unit. I have a forester XT i plan on doing some stuff eventually but probly just intake bpv and egr and tgv deletes with aos i don’t plan on racing it or anything just trying to get a little more power out of it and protect as much as i can from the dirty valve issues that plague these DI motors
How’s the cooler working. Was gonna use this on my forester xt and can’t decide on by passing the stock cooler and going straight aftermarket or using the thermostat you got
Boost & Shutter what’s your temps?
Boost & Shutter i know your on the Facebook pages I’m on. If you can shoot me a message I’d like to talk about thins install if you have a few. Curious about a few things
Depends where you live and how cool/hot it gets.
That short tubing loop on the stock cooler/warmer says to me that they anticipated the need for additional cooling capacity for the CVT in certain use cases. Or they just felt like creating an additional failure point just 'cause.
@@akqjtn ah yes. Those aussies get all the nice things.
Quick question if you didn’t have the thermostat/ dose it matter where put the line on the cooler or no?
Yes still matters
Can u install in the same place in newer forester with no hood scoop will it block air flow to the intercooler?
Hey did u have any problems with air trapped in the hoses u put in goin into the cvt ?
May sound like a dumb question. But does anyone know if this mounting configuration works with the 14-18 Forester XT. Same FA20 engine, I would assume since the forester is bigger, that there will be ample room for mounting. This is the cooler i would go with but just thought Id ask before attempting to build my own
Great Video altogether !
I would avoid using teflon tape. Last thing you want is teflon in your transmission. What I dont understand is how you bottomed out those fittings. Mine wont budge.
What intake
13:55
High Torque (CVT) Fluid Linear (5 GAL)
Part Number: SOA748V0200
22:20 - After cutting the hoses better would to clean them inside. But you did not.
I can do this!!!! After all; i played with Lego in the late 70's.
What happens if your installation causes the transmission to run too cool? It does have a minimum/maximum range.
@@akqjtn I understand but for the average driver a transmission cooler is not required. Maybe under continuous heavy trailer hauling in the city or hilly countryside but even this is not likely as today's transmission leave the largest transmission source of heat (CVT and conventional automatics) out of the picture; the torque converter. Today's torque converters have internal clutches that are locked up shortly after initial pull away from a stop. Clutches in CVT's or conventional planetary gear transmissions don' do any significant slipping and so don't generate any heat. If they did, they would fail. Gear sets and Variators are low heat generators also.
and i would put it on bottom middle bumper and remove bottom grill too
Hey where did u buy the fluid
Normally its found in 5 gal buckets. 1 quart is bought at New Provisions Racing.
You have to make sure no debris gets into the cvt fluid and all of its connecting parts. That would destroy the cvt. I wouldn’t recommend using saw tools near a cvt
You don't have to bleed the air from the lines or anything...
You probably should, especially if your particular run is long.
I thought the m symbol was supposed to to facing the other way
Wanting to get one of these for me 2020 cvt wrx, but can’t find where you get the thermostat at for it? Is it from mishimoto as well?
Nice bro
I wouldn't use a Dremel or any such tool, the dust from that would go down the new pipes and contaminate the transmission
The most annoying part of this cooling is that i don't have that cvt cooler you disconnected the hoses from. And every single guide or thread i read all have it, so ppl just integrate aftermarket coolers into already installed one
lol florida viewer here
Boost & Shutter i sure will great video
This dude live in silent hill
It's not recommended to be placed upside down !
massive fuckup.. lines go on the TOP!!!!!! never both on the bottom ffs epic fail!
26min mark either you forgot to FILL after running the lines through to the thermostat,, so as to eliminate as much air as is reasonable before connecting the lines (yes its not easily done to eliminate it all esp wo spilling but it is doable to fill so only a few inches of hose has air as they are being connected from the cooler.
and yes the pan level still needs to be checked/filled etc but this not only helps avoid issues there but avoids potential air gapes being big enough to impact the fluid level the thermostat needs to be bled through to the cooler and not everyone will remember to do that so this precaution helps avoid any potential low level of fluid in the tranny
also upgraded lines etc but didnt change from crappy NPT to better fittings that are far better quality and far less of a failure point for the few bucks needed at this point its really a no brainer. /facepalm
Embarrassing...
Great video, thank you!