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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2022
  • The Eleven brings a classic pub debate to life. Two rival football fans go head-to-head, to debate which players would make it into a combined team from their clubs. The Judge - a neutral fan - has the final say on each position on the pitch.
    In the latest episode, Manchester United fan Adam McKola goes up against Liverpool fan Grizz Khan to debate an all-time Premier League era combined team, with Thogden overseeing proceedings.
    Thanks to Adam McKola, Grizz Khan and Thogden for taking part:
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  • @LADbible
    @LADbible  Год назад +110

    Thanks to Adam McKola, Grizz Khan and Thogden for taking part

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад +1

      Yo, do you even know football? Where is Giggs? Totally unacceptable. Are you kids or what? Go play fifa and leave real football pls.

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад

      Vidic two time ( the player of the season ) no defender have ever done that in the Premier league. Where is he in your stupid lineup. Otherwise you must do 5 or 11 players as subs if you don't mention these players, totally unacceptable!

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад +1

      NO NO NO totally unacceptable, recreate the video and don't forget Giggs next time . How dare you? Unforgivable.

    • @KTK44
      @KTK44 Год назад +8

      @@moe.moe.codgamer5125 Men who beats up women are not allowed on any team. Sorry not sorry. His legacy is trashed now. He'll be remembered for nothing but a brute.

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад

      @@KTK44 Idc about his attitude outside of the pitch. I care about what he has done AS A PLAYER, which is our discussion here, so go away.

  • @vashishthrajyaguru5776
    @vashishthrajyaguru5776 Год назад +1079

    I love this Liverpool Fan...his patience levels are so good and he is so humble...btw i am a Utd Fan

    • @honestmanutdfan603
      @honestmanutdfan603 Год назад +18

      That's how they work stay calm annoy the other person make them start shouting and then stay calm to look like the good guy

    • @XavierJAlexander
      @XavierJAlexander Год назад +7

      Tbh they need to be if it’s all time premier league eta

    • @harrymillward7135
      @harrymillward7135 Год назад +7

      Grizz is a legend

    • @farhanahmed211
      @farhanahmed211 Год назад

      both were awesome, respecting each others opinion

    • @iso460
      @iso460 Год назад +7

      @@honestmanutdfan603
      Don't be a clown. Some fans just have the right behavior and you can respect them, even if it's a rival

  • @rammus5672
    @rammus5672 Год назад +852

    As I United Fan, I can say this liverpool fan is absolute class!
    Conducted himself very professionally and calmly. I cant say the same for Adam.
    Also Gerrard walks into any 11, it shouldn't even be a debate

    • @MrVinjex
      @MrVinjex Год назад +60

      Gerrard had the most EPL team of the year inclusions and this was whilst Scholes and Keane were in the league. As a United fan, I hate how much I like Gerrard

    • @ebubeejiogu820
      @ebubeejiogu820 Год назад

      Clearly not a United fan. Shut up

    • @amurphy4004
      @amurphy4004 Год назад +7

      Totally agree. I'm a united fan too. Liverpool fan respected the right choice.

    • @joshuabarry1972
      @joshuabarry1972 Год назад +4

      Yep you know ball mate

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 Год назад +4

      Peak Fergie and Mou wanted Gerrard. Says it all really.

  • @handono5382
    @handono5382 Год назад +633

    This is one of the healthiest conversations about football ever. Given the topic is about Manchester United and Liverpool. The success and the rivalry between them. I love this. The debate and argument are reasonably good and not biased at all.

    • @Hekka101
      @Hekka101 Год назад +24

      I feel like if the Liverpool fan had been a bit more firm he could have gotten more players in the team but I don’t think he cares because he just wanted to have a calm debate

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al Год назад +2

      @@Hekka101 Nah I think the ratio was spot on.

    • @Hekka101
      @Hekka101 Год назад +8

      @@r4h4al i think you are a bit of a weirdo

    • @source2531
      @source2531 Год назад +1

      @@Hekka101 Pretty sure he's not trying to "ratio" u

    • @Hekka101
      @Hekka101 Год назад

      @@source2531 well whether he is trying or not he isnt

  • @eoinmallon6207
    @eoinmallon6207 Год назад +242

    As a huge Man Utd fan, I have so much respect for the Liverpool fan. Honest man, fair play!

  • @FootballKhanage
    @FootballKhanage Год назад +422

    Was a pleasure doing this 🙌🏽

    • @jordandunn6814
      @jordandunn6814 Год назад +19

      Legend Grizz

    • @marioenah7502
      @marioenah7502 Год назад +7

      Great work Grizz! Absolutely did us proud.

    • @PontyP
      @PontyP Год назад +6

      Top class as always grizz! The best representative for us Liverpool fans on social media as always 👍

    • @thecornerfla9
      @thecornerfla9 Год назад +5

      Man knows his stuff...always great watching your football chats

    • @azlankhan4172
      @azlankhan4172 Год назад

      You did really well mate. I feel Alison could have gotten in the team because he will likely continue his successes into his mid to late 30's and if you have Van Dijk you gotta have Alison.

  • @eoinoshea3151
    @eoinoshea3151 Год назад +725

    Glad they didn’t completely disrespect Rooney by not leaving him out of the team like they did do in the arsenal one

    • @conorryan2392
      @conorryan2392 Год назад +21

      Completely agree, think in that utd, arsenal one, Andy Tate missed a beat, they went into stats for those seasons and Rooney had more assists than bergkamp had g+a that season

    • @GhengisGoon
      @GhengisGoon Год назад +35

      Only deluded English fans think Rooney is better then Bergkamp

    • @harrishba3707
      @harrishba3707 Год назад +1

      @@GhengisGoon he is better you're the delusional one

    • @callum64151
      @callum64151 Год назад +7

      In the arsenal one the united fan couldn’t even debate cos the arsenal fan was delusional and wouldn’t hear anyones opinion

    • @AlexZouhehe
      @AlexZouhehe Год назад +10

      @@GhengisGoon lmao. Would you believe me if the footballing world considers arsenal fans some of the most difficult, childish and awkward people to talk to? I don't think you would. I think aftv is a good representation of you lot and i dont mean that in a nice way. And Rooney slightly edges bergkamp tbf.

  • @teddy-lq3hj
    @teddy-lq3hj Год назад +136

    Grizz is so respectable, thoughtful, and calm

  • @lukebest7424
    @lukebest7424 Год назад +130

    Thogden questioning Jaap Stam tells you all you need to know about his footballing knowledge

    • @amir22872
      @amir22872 Год назад +28

      he did say that he was learning from them two when they were talking about Irwin, tbf Thogden's still young it is to be expected

    • @dillonsass6609
      @dillonsass6609 Год назад +4

      Its cos Thogden is drinking beer, it went to his head🍺. He should've asked for a glass of water 🤣

    • @Rob07544
      @Rob07544 Год назад +1

      @@dillonsass6609 half a pint

    • @shaebryant1916
      @shaebryant1916 Год назад +1

      @@amir22872 shouldn’t be on there

    • @lukebest7424
      @lukebest7424 Год назад

      @@amir22872 he should've educated himself beforehand. And Jaap Stam isn't a particularly obscure player. And this guy has a football channel as well. Basically knows about players from the last 10 years and that's it the absolute joker.

  • @BigWes95
    @BigWes95 Год назад +471

    Out of all of the teams they've done on here this is probably the only one where I've agreed with most of it

    • @theanfieldsultan
      @theanfieldsultan Год назад +1

      Ronaldo out cantona in

    • @jdc6354
      @jdc6354 Год назад +5

      @@theanfieldsultan Ronaldo one season was better than eric cantona whole career

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад +1

      Are you a kid just started watching football yesterday? How can you agree while the greatest player of the Premier history isn't here? Ryan Giggs. Go play fifa kids ok leave real football pls don't make people laugh at you.

    • @BigWes95
      @BigWes95 Год назад +12

      @@moe.moe.codgamer5125 if you think giggs was better than ronaldo then you need to give your head a wobble. He was never the best player in the league at any point of his career. Never even really that close

    • @moe.moe.codgamer5125
      @moe.moe.codgamer5125 Год назад

      @@BigWes95 yo, they are talking about the Premier league not La Liga, are you dumb enough or dont listen to their video? Ronaldo spent most of his career and achievements in la liga. Give yourself 2 minutes to learn about Ryan Giggs pls 😂😭

  • @mpah4424
    @mpah4424 Год назад +85

    We need more football fans like Grizz! Absolute fair guy and class act

  • @lukewalker5096
    @lukewalker5096 Год назад +167

    Why would you make Thogden the judge? 😂😂

    • @oufc90
      @oufc90 Год назад +48

      Right 😂 probably never seen half of these players play, or in their prime at least

    • @craigglassford8533
      @craigglassford8533 Год назад +39

      Yeah the guy is clueless

    • @NachoInsano
      @NachoInsano Год назад +18

      Big mistake he’s an absolute crumpet

    • @palashrawat401
      @palashrawat401 Год назад +15

      Making thogden a judge in something involving Ronaldo is plain dumb

    • @5thdawg917
      @5thdawg917 Год назад +3

      😂 The guy is 21 years old! He was born in 2001. There is no way his seen majority of the Man Utd players play.

  • @gethinhughes8153
    @gethinhughes8153 Год назад +27

    As a Liverpool fan Grizz debated really fairly there. Adam is always really bitter.

    • @amateurchef9992
      @amateurchef9992 Год назад

      Calm down gethin

    • @ragnarok283
      @ragnarok283 Год назад

      I will be bitter if someone’s picking Gerrard over Scholes too lol

  • @ParrotsTT
    @ParrotsTT Год назад +169

    For the 1st time ever I actually enjoyed the dialogue, both fans put their bias aside for the most part and I agreed with all of these picks

    • @EE-kt8sh
      @EE-kt8sh Год назад +21

      Nah Adam was too biased. And i'm a united fan

    • @barbarasband6818
      @barbarasband6818 Год назад +5

      @@EE-kt8sh I’m a united fan as well but our legends are better than Liverpool in most positions so it makes sense for him to argue for united the only player who gets in is gerrard imo

    • @meldyrum4545
      @meldyrum4545 Год назад +12

      @@barbarasband6818 nah bro, that's ridiculous, the comment was about putting aside bias and you've gone and said that

    • @barbarasband6818
      @barbarasband6818 Год назад

      @@meldyrum4545 what u mean how has Trent got in van dijk maybe but I’d take Vidic and salah I’d rather have ronaldo and then take giggs on the left

    • @meldyrum4545
      @meldyrum4545 Год назад +8

      @@barbarasband6818 I'm gonna break this down one by one.
      Firstly: Trent ,as was said, completeley revolutionised the right back role. that players are expected to fit into nowadays. The numbers he puts up in termsn of assists Xa and chances created are ridicoulos for a midfielder let alone a defender. I know you'll bring up defending, but contrary to popular belief trent excels in this area producing the second-third best defensive statistics per 90 in the prem last season for right backs, the only thing he lacks is defensive awareness.
      Secondly: Vidic was an amazing player but he is glorifies over his highlights reels where he made unnecessary slide tackles that he didn't need to make or could have been prevented earlier. As well as this Vidic always had frerdinand or another world class defender next to him, Van Dijk when he came in had an average matip, joe gomez and lovren as his partenr and still managed to lead liverpool to a league title and a champions league by transforming that defense. Van dijk also managed to finish 2nd in the ballondor behind the greatest of all time in one of his best ever seasons, from centre back. Thats insane and vidic never managed anything close.
      Thirdly: Salah has played 5 going on 6 impeccable seasons, ronaldo had 3 good seasons at united, salah also holds the goalscoring record in the premier league, beating rolando, and also beating him for assists in almost all of his years as well. Salah while not as good at useless stepovers or dribbling is positionally the better attacker and wouldv'e also won a ballondor had he won the 2018 champions league final instead of Madrid. To add to this giggs while it wasn't his role, scored more than 10 goals in a season only twice over 21 seasons, and scored less than 5 in over 10 off those seasons, salah has also put up more numbers in assists and creatively in general, and while giggs was less of a direct attacking threat and more of a midfielder in a 4-4-2 he lacked any dazzling technical ability and did not have the ability to dictate the tempo or the run of play.
      Putting away bias the team presented is very good and perfect in my opinion.

  • @hurrdurrimagrunt
    @hurrdurrimagrunt Год назад +185

    Grizz is good on this, as is Maych. Two fair and objective red men.

    • @pacman7687
      @pacman7687 Год назад +2

      Nothing about anyone on Redmen is fair and objective

    • @amolmehrotra1296
      @amolmehrotra1296 Год назад +2

      @@pacman7687 why you such a hater man you are everywhere 😂 why do you even watch rival channels and expect them to be objective.

    • @pacman7687
      @pacman7687 Год назад

      @@amolmehrotra1296 because everyone has a brain and can be rational, just cousers mainly cant manage it

    • @amolmehrotra1296
      @amolmehrotra1296 Год назад

      @@pacman7687 yeah like Buvey right? He is the most biased football commentator out there and represents Man city as much Redmen represents Liverpool, but I have never seen you once comment below his videos yet you are here. So you are just biased, hypocrite and non rational as others, according to your logic you are also a couser congrats 😂

    • @pacman7687
      @pacman7687 Год назад

      @@amolmehrotra1296 Mate theres a huge difference. Buvey's almost there for comedy, Redmen is a serious channel. BUvey's footballing opinions are nonsense and no one takes anything seriously. Theres plenty of great City youtube channels that "represent" us, not Buvey

  • @rfc2399
    @rfc2399 Год назад +18

    Thogmong shouldn’t be here when he hasn’t even seen highlights of Dennis Irwin 😭

  • @EE-kt8sh
    @EE-kt8sh Год назад +61

    Need more guys like Grizz on these football talks.

  • @PPTheKop
    @PPTheKop Год назад +65

    Now I understand why United fans were annoyed when us liverpool fans talked about history alot in the past... 🤣

    • @honestmanutdfan603
      @honestmanutdfan603 Год назад +3

      See 😅🤣

    • @PPTheKop
      @PPTheKop Год назад +3

      Its bloody annoying as! 🤣

    • @honestmanutdfan603
      @honestmanutdfan603 Год назад +6

      @@PPTheKop ik but at the same we both have and nothing else to talk about when we were shit

    • @PPTheKop
      @PPTheKop Год назад

      @@honestmanutdfan603 True. Most of them don't even have that so lets just enjoy these episodes. Only hoping liverpool to play well this weekend as we all know liverpool don't play their best football against teams at the bottom 😅

    • @lk7923
      @lk7923 Год назад +1

      @@PPTheKop not true. Last year we played our best football against teams in the bottom and barely took any points against the top 4

  • @jack7boom7
    @jack7boom7 Год назад +83

    that RW debate is crazy! as a Man U fan, Salah gets it easy. As much as I love Beckham he became more of a celebrity than a footballer at the end

    • @arjinaasad2383
      @arjinaasad2383 Год назад +8

      Isn't he supposed to do what he wants after retirement.

    • @honestmanutdfan603
      @honestmanutdfan603 Год назад +15

      Beckham is clear as a player

    • @khumeighalo406
      @khumeighalo406 Год назад +5

      Exactly at the end not in his prime....its a Shame gorge best was nt in the conversation

    • @user-io8cm4dk1f
      @user-io8cm4dk1f Год назад +6

      @@arjinaasad2383 this was before retirement

    • @XavierJAlexander
      @XavierJAlexander Год назад

      Most idiotic child comment I’ve come accross

  • @BigGunner234
    @BigGunner234 Год назад +64

    United’s Ty is back at it again with the delusion, the Liverpool fan was class all around, understood the point of the debate and had actual discourse.

    • @dg1786
      @dg1786 Год назад +11

      As a united fan of 31 years. Your bang on. He’s to bias, football fan before my team, and you just can’t deny great players regardless of who they play for.

    • @woodkey1
      @woodkey1 Год назад

      True. he just wanna put out united best 11 might as well put George best. Yeay 11 players from man united. No need for discussion. Thats the problem of some united fans

    • @ItsAv3rageGamer
      @ItsAv3rageGamer Год назад +7

      McKola is one of the most arrogant fans out there.

    • @thedirtybubble2983
      @thedirtybubble2983 Год назад +1

      Am I the only one that thinks Howson is worse than McKola? As a UTD fan I think both are insufferable tho

    • @BigGunner234
      @BigGunner234 Год назад +1

      @TheRealJimmySaville Don't know how I'm being salty, im an arsenal fan so I just watch it because I want to hear a discussion beyond delusional tribalism, I guess that's salty nowadays lol.

  • @odintrondsen1977
    @odintrondsen1977 Год назад +7

    This was a very healthy and unbiased conversation, and I loved every second of it. Two unbiased people who is being calm and not screaming at each other. Its easy as an Liverpool fan to be biased atm, cause we are so much better than United right now. But can´t forget how good United was a few years ago. Huge respect to the both of them!

  • @dandanSWLdnGooner
    @dandanSWLdnGooner Год назад +10

    "Virgil Van Dyke is our cake or we're fasting otherwise" 😭🤣😭 big up Grizz 👊🏽

  • @debendersnair856
    @debendersnair856 Год назад +48

    Queue the "As the opposition supporter, this person is so respectful" and the "I'm supporter of this team and this person should not represent our club"

  • @blackholesupersloth3276
    @blackholesupersloth3276 Год назад +17

    Can't be watching Thogdon.

    • @Electroma94
      @Electroma94 Год назад +2

      He did reasonably ok at not coming off as a total bellend

    • @blackholesupersloth3276
      @blackholesupersloth3276 Год назад +2

      @@Electroma94 The Interview with Ben Foster and Goldbridge made him unbearable

    • @Electroma94
      @Electroma94 Год назад +2

      @@blackholesupersloth3276 He generally is unbearable but looks like LadBible told him to chill out

  • @sudhanshg16
    @sudhanshg16 Год назад +8

    Such an amazing conversation. Unbiased and totally healthy debate, as it is supposed to be!

  • @johnnyryan656
    @johnnyryan656 Год назад +19

    Get the Irish Guy Here
    He doesn't bite

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx Год назад

      Irish Guy on Newcastle debate, that would be awesome!

  • @adamhughes117
    @adamhughes117 Год назад +33

    GK: Peter Schmeichel
    RB: Alexander-Arnold
    CB: Rio Ferdinand
    CB: Virgil Van Dijk
    LB: Dennis Irwin
    CM: Roy Keane
    CM: Steven Gerrard
    CM: Paul Scholes
    RW: Mo Salah
    LW: Cristiano Ronaldo
    CF: Wayne Rooney

    • @kavilansigapragasan9267
      @kavilansigapragasan9267 Год назад

      💯

    • @kingsleyinno3762
      @kingsleyinno3762 Год назад

      I think vingil and ferdie looks similar players can't complement each other ,I will go with one of them+vidic..Torres of Liverpool my striker

    • @abcdefed3f
      @abcdefed3f Год назад +2

      ST: Suarez

    • @alirazajafree3119
      @alirazajafree3119 Год назад

      @@kingsleyinno3762 shouldnt be basing combination 11s on playing styles, youre comparing players of completely different eras and teams so its a useless take unfortunately

    • @abcdefed3f
      @abcdefed3f Год назад

      Or CF: Cantona

  • @dejansega1986
    @dejansega1986 Год назад +35

    Most of the best Liverpool players are still playing, so it's difficult to rate them. They might win a lot more or they might decline

    • @Lisa-cj8cu
      @Lisa-cj8cu Год назад

      I take it as you support united or I don't think you would of said that

    • @Davey768
      @Davey768 Год назад +2

      @@Lisa-cj8cu Nah, anyone would say that. Trent and Van Dijk doesn't deserve to even be mentioned when it comes to this. Adam went easy.

    • @sib1930
      @sib1930 Год назад +2

      @@Davey768 Yes they do

    • @at..
      @at.. Год назад +1

      Liverpool is writing history as we speak 🗣 these premiership greats aren’t done yet so its unfair to judge

    • @dejansega1986
      @dejansega1986 Год назад

      @@Lisa-cj8cu I support Liverpool. But as I said most of the players are still playing. They've been great, but "only" won 1 PL and 1 CL title. But they've mostly been here 4-5 years. A lot of the best United players were playing for them for 10 years. So in 5 years some of the Liverpool players might have 5 new trophies, or some might get worse and be sold... We don't know yet

  • @godfatherpart4590
    @godfatherpart4590 Год назад +25

    Grizz what a lad . Absolute class 👏👏

  • @ryancurran4600
    @ryancurran4600 Год назад +6

    One of the only debates I’ve actually enjoyed, no biased, just a few lads who actually have ball knowledge

  • @AnthB
    @AnthB Год назад +5

    Have all of them had memory loss or something? Ronaldo played almost his entire United career on the right wing, he started playing on the left when he came to Madrid. His best season at United 07/08 he started 35 games as a right winger and only 1 game as a left winger and that was the CL final.

  • @josephmorton8477
    @josephmorton8477 Год назад +3

    The first one of these videos where both fans have got it spot on and they were both respectful to each other's arguements

  • @andrei.242
    @andrei.242 Год назад

    Best debate i have ever seen. Would watch it again

  • @ankitlad25
    @ankitlad25 Год назад +45

    I love McKola but we need a little more rational representation from Manchester United fans. Cannot be emotional and vibe on the bygone days, players combined XI is also about individual merit in that specific playing position and not just trophies won as a team. This is coming from a United fan.

    • @dettwork
      @dettwork Год назад +6

      this is literally a team based on bygone days.. if there's a time to vibe on them, it's here

    • @Sachin-gv7ik
      @Sachin-gv7ik Год назад

      How can one love McKola?

    • @alirazajafree3119
      @alirazajafree3119 Год назад +4

      @@dettwork shouldnt be basing it off trophies

    • @Johndoe-gf7eu
      @Johndoe-gf7eu Год назад +3

      @@alirazajafree3119 shouldn’t be an in all time premier league XI if you never won it. Why would i want gerrard in my combined 11 when he doesn’t know what its like to win a title, how can i trust him? How can i trust him on final day to perform? How do i know he won’t bottle it?

    • @dettwork
      @dettwork Год назад

      @@alirazajafree3119 yeah, otherwise there'd be no Liverpool players in it at all, but at the same time being a standout player in a team that won 3 in a row has to be better than being a standout player in a team that didn't win it at all?

  • @jaxteller872
    @jaxteller872 Год назад +47

    United fan here, Big up Grizz, very impartial, respectful, how a football fan should be when going into debates. Adam on the other hand, was such a prick, subtle digs, very bias and arrogant at times.

    • @LoCoAde87
      @LoCoAde87 Год назад +4

      McKola being McKola. The usual.

  • @oLogicalYT
    @oLogicalYT Год назад

    More of this series please

  • @arifkeskin2698
    @arifkeskin2698 Год назад +4

    Grizz Khan is one of a kind. Love hearing him talk. Need to see more of him.

  • @EE-kt8sh
    @EE-kt8sh Год назад +14

    Annoying when people do mixed teams with extreme bias. Beckman over Salah is a madness. And I'm a united fan

    • @_biggaz
      @_biggaz Месяц назад +1

      Ur the only mad one here. What are u 14? Someone didnt watch beckham. Far better footballer. U want athlete okay salahs faster and stronger, what footballing traits are better than beckham tho? He certainly doesnt have anything that stands out as much as beckhams passing ahead of his counterpart

    • @EE-kt8sh
      @EE-kt8sh Месяц назад

      @_biggaz You don't know football just sit down man. Salah is better goal scorer, better dribbler, had more assists. Only idiot united fans or english people would take him over Salah

  • @Sam-Ra
    @Sam-Ra Год назад +7

    That's why you don't make a kid a referee.

  • @thomasforde3900
    @thomasforde3900 Год назад +6

    Grizz (Liverpool fan) was fantastic in this, could have definitely got one or two more in there but was very unbiased and accepting of some great United players

  • @tamberlame27
    @tamberlame27 Год назад +6

    4 - 4 - 2
    Van der Saar
    Neville - Rio - van Djik - Dennis Irwin
    Salah - keane - Gerrad - Ronaldo
    Rooney - Suarez

  • @Joker-yw9hl
    @Joker-yw9hl Год назад +3

    Host and Adam wound me up, and I'm a United fan. Most down to earth Liverpool fan I've ever seen

  • @dudebro6902
    @dudebro6902 Год назад +6

    We should have Chelsea all time and Liverpool all time with Rory and Grizz. It would be the calmest video ever.

  • @m.fuzailbandarkar7023
    @m.fuzailbandarkar7023 Год назад

    These videos are cool.....I think that the agree to disagree videos are next level....hope to more of them

  • @connorwilliams8714
    @connorwilliams8714 Год назад +2

    Hate how people say trent revolutionised that position when Roberto Carlos Dani ALVES and Marcelo have been working that role for decades

  • @user-io8cm4dk1f
    @user-io8cm4dk1f Год назад +58

    This sort of debate just isn’t really fair, that United team had so many players who stayed there for years and years and won so many league titles etc, whereas Liverpool has only won 1. To make it more fair, and to make it more entertaining, it should’ve been a certain season for each team and only base it off how they performed in that season. Plus the fact that Liverpool’s most successful team of the Premier era is still happening, so the players haven’t even finished their careers yet, comparing them to players who played 10+ years for an insane United team just isn’t fair.

    • @XavierJAlexander
      @XavierJAlexander Год назад +6

      That’s why it’s an all time team

    • @shush1219
      @shush1219 Год назад

      Then United would still destroy them

    • @alirazajafree3119
      @alirazajafree3119 Год назад +4

      @@XavierJAlexander it should have been all time 11, meaning taking into account the likes of ian rush and kenny dalglish

    • @mac2200
      @mac2200 Год назад +2

      @@alirazajafree3119 Then United would take into account Best, Charlton, Law etc

    • @raxj8257
      @raxj8257 Год назад +4

      @@alirazajafree3119 Liverpool would win that hands down

  • @michaelwvega9439
    @michaelwvega9439 Год назад +3

    Great video and it was so equal and fair it’s unreal. However I will say Trent didn’t revolutionize the Fullback position. Guys like Cafu, Caravjal, Dani alves, Roberto Carlos, Fachetti all revolutionized this position and the wonder kids fullbacks we see in this day and age are all stuff these guys I mentioned already did in their perspective primes.

  • @deenuk125
    @deenuk125 Год назад +11

    Issue with these videos is it goes back to "he won more"
    Ok then make the entire United 11 with no Liverpool players by that logic there's no point for a video
    We all know Fletcher was a far better midfielder than Gerard because he won the PL cmon
    Top logic there

  • @k182l
    @k182l Год назад +6

    These should be a 4 4 2 so there's 2 picks for each position and debate of it

  • @pancakeman8821
    @pancakeman8821 Год назад +17

    It's weird to think that one day the prem will have been around as long as the first division was, (touchwood) and it'll be pretty much impossible to do these combined 11's

    • @richafonz309
      @richafonz309 Год назад

      Not even a chance because there’s only 1 player that plays rn, can replace this team and it’s kdb

  • @albymichael7193
    @albymichael7193 Год назад +41

    When you make an all time 11 you don’t look at trophies you look at how they are as a player

    • @Matt-fe6wu
      @Matt-fe6wu Год назад +1

      Correct to a certain point. You have to look at reasons why certain players didn't win trophies and a rationale as to why they would be selected over someone who has a history of trophies.

    • @AdamT-mv3ok
      @AdamT-mv3ok Год назад +1

      It has to be a combination of both trophies and how good they were/are on their day, but trophies should always have the edge. How they are/were as players can make way for more subjective opinions which is hard to quantify for a fair debate. For example someone like Gary Neville was never the most easy on the eye as a player but he was efficient and remained efficient for over a decade, if Trent stops performing now he doesn't get ahead of Gary Neville all time regardless of how good he's been so far. Just like Henderson has been a greater Midfielder in the PL as compared to someone like say Modrić in the PL who was overall more gifted and went on to have an overall greater career, not to say he wasn't good for Spurs but Henderson in the PL has been greater than Modrić in the PL.

    • @FatTodd
      @FatTodd Год назад +1

      Cristiano is the reason man u revived and won that 3 peat of Prems.

    • @manojcm7567
      @manojcm7567 Год назад

      @@FatTodd bs comment u must be either a kid or a fanboy to say that lmao

    • @FatTodd
      @FatTodd Год назад +1

      @@manojcm7567 how am I fanboy. London clubs in Chelsea and arsenal were running the prem, 3 years without a title ppl were saying fergue is done out. Ronaldo comes back from world cup a man, destroyed the league 3 years in a row, with the 07/08 season the best individual season in prem history.
      Arsenal were close to getting Ronaldo and that could have changed the course of our history. So when I massively rate Ronaldo, I have good reason. If he came to us, we would have won more.

  • @degars6383
    @degars6383 Год назад

    that was such a civilized and relatively unbiased conversation, shows that a video can be entertaining without having to be 'heated'

  • @j.jswatt1401
    @j.jswatt1401 Год назад

    Easily the best epi yet, two fans arguably part of one of the biggest rivalry in sports and there was no screaming or overreacting. Fair analysis on both parts (theres always bias).

  • @LWipo
    @LWipo Год назад +42

    FOR ONCE, people put bias aside and just appreciated both sets of players. Sometimes rivalry doesn't matter and just reminisce about some of the great players we've all seen. Reminds me of Ronaldo or Messi, who cares really? Just be grateful we all got to see them both play as they are probably #1 and #2 of all time depending on preference.

    • @qBodi
      @qBodi Год назад

      not everyone has that random opinion

    • @klassed234
      @klassed234 Год назад +4

      Lit only the Liverpool fan did this, that utd fan bias as they come

    • @qBodi
      @qBodi Год назад

      @@klassed234 just like liverpool simps

    • @Slim-MMA
      @Slim-MMA Год назад +4

      Sorry but Messi vs. Ronaldo isn’t preference, it’s a litmus test for knowledge of the sport and anyone who says Ronaldo fails the test miserably.

    • @mobiustriple
      @mobiustriple Год назад

      Did we watch the same video? Cuz even the judge was biased

  • @ryanjackson4004
    @ryanjackson4004 Год назад +5

    Questionable about Trent over G Nev but respect has been shown in all players so credit to both of them

    • @PontyP
      @PontyP Год назад +3

      Noway your saying it’s a debate between Neville and TAA? It was even the easiest decision for mcKola in this whole video, Neville was a solid player and would run through brick walls for United but player to player Trent is far superior

    • @michaelduckett7688
      @michaelduckett7688 Год назад +1

      @@PontyP is he bollocks. Neville’s easily the best RB in premiership history. Trent’s not even top 5!

    • @PontyP
      @PontyP Год назад +2

      @@michaelduckett7688 Noway you just said that? Best right back in PL history? No past or present player is even putting him anywhere near they’re best 11 they’ve played with

  • @Wiktor928
    @Wiktor928 Год назад

    this video was great and grizz made some great choices and arguments! loved the guy but im heavily debating the disrespect not to mention dudeks name in goal

  • @Johndoe-gf7eu
    @Johndoe-gf7eu Год назад +1

    Featuring a bolton fan, fantastic

  • @alexab543
    @alexab543 Год назад +13

    Man Utd fans can't really hate on Schmeichel celebrating City's goals, as they've all been doing the same for the past 4-5 years

  • @marcusMakoT
    @marcusMakoT Год назад +7

    4-4-2
    Schmeichel
    Alexander-Arnold - Stam - Vidic - Irwin
    Ronaldo - Gerrard - Keane - Giggs
    Rooney - Cantona

  • @2g772
    @2g772 Год назад +2

    Should've used 3-4-3 as formation since both teams didn't have best of the fullbacks that can be considered all time greats and would've had great debate

  • @TheIantonna
    @TheIantonna Год назад

    Great fair debate !

  • @ukbigjon
    @ukbigjon Год назад +39

    United fan here.
    Just comparing Ronaldo and Salah there are two distinctions to make; their overall ability and level at their best and then there is their individual records in the league.
    If you are looking at who has been the better player, obviously that is Ronaldo; to question it would be stupid.
    Remembering Ronnie's first stint, if you had the ability to pick peak Balon d'or winning Ronaldo, which emerged in his penultimate season; you pick him over Salah.
    However, if you are looking at their over all record in the league, salah has spent more of his best years here, so his record is better in the Prem. So based on record in the league, you'd pick Salah.
    Two amazing players either way.

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад

      I like this, the least 3 years of his first stint were amazing, but Salah has more of less matched plus an extra year. There's a tendency of including his time at Madrid, where he was a different level altogether.

    • @ukbigjon
      @ukbigjon Год назад +2

      @@bri1085 equally I think people forget he actually did enter his peak at United; winning the Ballon d'or in '08... where he was absolutely incredible.
      But yeah, most of his peak wasnt at united; hence as I suggested, I do think you can assess them both by those two distinct criteria.

    • @mj200
      @mj200 Год назад +2

      They were talking about premier league impact. Therefore it's Salah?

    • @telmolicious
      @telmolicious Год назад +2

      @@mj200 Why the question mark? 😅

    • @mj200
      @mj200 Год назад

      @@telmolicious excellent point

  • @ejsmartt
    @ejsmartt Год назад +19

    Fair play fair play, I’m happy with this.
    Secondly, I’m a massive fan of Rooney but my man could’ve given a better argument for Rooney v Suarez, in terms of who would they want in one single season with this team. Would’ve been more interesting. I’m a United fan btw 😂

    • @WaniZame
      @WaniZame Год назад

      Over a career in terms of achievement and statistics and even ability I think anybody who watches football would say Suarez was a better player over his career BUT you can’t argue Rooneys significance in the Prem. Had Suarez done a decade in England he would probably have surpassed Henry as the best to do it in England.

    • @forreal7403
      @forreal7403 Год назад +1

      They should have put Rooney in the 10 and put Suarez as a striker.

  • @DawesyIsABoyo
    @DawesyIsABoyo Месяц назад +1

    Rooney,Ronaldo,Salah,Gerrard,Scholes,Keane,Evra,Vidic,Ferdiand,Neville,Van De Sarr 1st team
    Berbatov,Cantona,Schmeicel,David De Gea,Trent,Beckham,Van Dijk,Yapsten all arguments for these places

  • @laugh6581
    @laugh6581 Год назад

    Both of them were so accurate with the decisions though, really cool video

  • @saranshsharma4005
    @saranshsharma4005 Год назад +20

    Yeah, Trent revolutionized the RB role..
    You see, now a days, your RB don't have to defend anymore.. that's what he revolutionized🤣🤣🤣

    • @yessi1585
      @yessi1585 Год назад

      Defends as well as cancelo..

    • @97YNWA97
      @97YNWA97 Год назад +2

      It’s funny how Barca, Real, Liverpool and Bayern fans will all agree a full back nowadays don’t need to be sound defensively, rather be a creative force attacking yet it’s just Utd fans who’ll disagree and say a full back has to be firstly good defensively… even every top manager like Pep, Klopp etc will agree

    • @Jxotic631
      @Jxotic631 Год назад

      Im a united fan but TAA is different gravy

  • @dogsofwar811
    @dogsofwar811 Год назад +6

    Lmaooooo that line about Harry Maguire "rolls royce don't make fridges" had me on the floor

  • @chrisd1404
    @chrisd1404 Год назад +2

    Where did they found a fair, unbiased, down to earth and relatively normal Liverpool fan? This guy is rare!

  • @percypervis9470
    @percypervis9470 Год назад +2

    Why didn't that guy who was the judge just have a soft drink instead of pretending to enjoy that pint

  • @forreal7403
    @forreal7403 Год назад +4

    I think they shoulda played 433 attacking and put Rooney in the 10 and Suarez in the 9.

  • @michaelcorleonejr
    @michaelcorleonejr Год назад +13

    As an Arsenal fan my all time combined XI for Man Utd/Liverpool would be GK: Schmeichel, LB: Evra, RB: Trent, CB: Van Djik, CB: Ferdinand, RW/RM: Salah, CM: Scholes, CM: Gerrard, LW/LM: Ronaldo, FW: Suarez, FW: Rooney

    • @harrypascoe5789
      @harrypascoe5789 Год назад +3

      this is the perfect team

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад

      Fair although I'd sneak Carrick in 👀

    • @michaelcorleonejr
      @michaelcorleonejr Год назад

      @@bri1085 😂 not a chance Alonso, Keane, way ahead of him in the pecking order

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад

      @@michaelcorleonejr I'm deadly serious too, he's the player Scholes became after and retired.

    • @michaelcorleonejr
      @michaelcorleonejr Год назад

      @@bri1085 Carrick an average player imo

  • @ewanbird4370
    @ewanbird4370 Год назад +1

    I like these two they both very fair and just normal like not deluded and can’t argue with the team honestly best one of this kinda them especially the Liverpool fan

  • @Regista268
    @Regista268 Год назад

    we did well to get anyone in there but a lot of it has to do with tactics. if you're picking a team to play today you go with a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-3-1 with attacking wing backs and inside forwards instead of traditional wingers and fullbacks so a lot of the core players in dominant united teams don't really fit. up front ronaldo on the left and salah on the right makes sense in the 4-3-3 but if you were going for an old style 4-4-2 with traditional wingers you'd go with barnes and beckham or giggs and beckham. For attacking full backs you can't go past Irwin and Trent because Neville as good as he was in a 4-4-2 wouldn't fit in the modern system, but Irwin would work perfectly and maybe be even better than he was. Keane as a 6 with gerrard and scholes as the 8's is hard to argue with. ferdinand and van dijk have the pace and comfort on the ball for a high line. i wouldn't change anything tbh

  • @andrewaziz3577
    @andrewaziz3577 Год назад +12

    i see thogden i switch off!

    • @Lewis080
      @Lewis080 Год назад +1

      The thumbnail is dreadful.

  • @ellis9290
    @ellis9290 Год назад +3

    "We could possibly contemplate putting him on the left" hahaha fuck sake Adam was really determined to have an all-united 11

  • @viveknair5818
    @viveknair5818 Год назад

    Damn reasonable people and great arguments! That Andy Tate didn't know to argue and didn't get Rooney on that Arsenal United lineup!

  • @CoryJT
    @CoryJT Год назад +1

    Enjoyed this one. Great combined XI!

  • @benbancroft9643
    @benbancroft9643 Год назад +5

    Im a UTD fan… this was embarrassing from Adam. Salah is 100% in over Ronaldo and Becks on the right. Gerrard and Keane isn’t even a question, should be a certainty and Scholes is one of my favourite ever UTD players.

    • @monkey.854
      @monkey.854 Год назад +2

      salah is no wear near man u ronaldo, there's just no way you actually believe that

    • @binggo4261
      @binggo4261 Год назад

      😂

    • @paulcris107
      @paulcris107 Год назад

      U must be 6 do you remember young ronaldo at Man Utd

    • @monkey.854
      @monkey.854 Год назад

      @@paulcris107 I clearly remember watching him in Man U from 2006 to 2007 😹

  • @Electroma94
    @Electroma94 Год назад +22

    Can't really argue with the team. Rooney has to be in there on longevity and trophies.

    • @mainakdas4305
      @mainakdas4305 Год назад +1

      Rooney is there in the centre forward.

    • @Electroma94
      @Electroma94 Год назад +4

      @@mainakdas4305 I know, I'm agreeing he deserves to be in there over Suarez. But it's very close

    • @mainakdas4305
      @mainakdas4305 Год назад

      @@Electroma94 bro Suarez is the best centre forward in our generation. But in Premier League it has to be Rooney but Rooney is an all-rounder. I agree that. Also he can able to play in different postions that makes him one of the best forward in the history of Premier League.

    • @Electroma94
      @Electroma94 Год назад +2

      @@mainakdas4305 yeah, and Suarez' best season is better than Rooney best season

  • @chonlienlalhaokip3139
    @chonlienlalhaokip3139 Год назад

    As a Liverpool fan i couldn't agree more . Great debate Guys

  • @steve88evets31
    @steve88evets31 Год назад +1

    Grizz has a really great attitude. I did like the decades comment. Think they slept on that one haha

  • @TrymTheXboxGamer
    @TrymTheXboxGamer Год назад +5

    don't forget who scored the last goal in UCL in 98/99 Solskjaer

    • @gureyg3795
      @gureyg3795 Год назад

      He was super sub. So definitely should be the first of the bench when this team is down 1-0 🤣

  • @ibrarhussain2508
    @ibrarhussain2508 Год назад +3

    Grizz with the educated views, mckola on emotion rather then football

  • @boyalfian422
    @boyalfian422 4 месяца назад

    that combination is perfect.

  • @shlokpant3554
    @shlokpant3554 Год назад +1

    as a utd fan grizz was amazing this vid. he had the patience and was calm and his respect even though he was a lfc fan is class

  • @economicswithruss6259
    @economicswithruss6259 Год назад +35

    I hope Adam has seen Rio’s lie detector test where he knows VVD is clear 🤣

    • @gamingscout592
      @gamingscout592 Год назад +2

      I hope u having seen vvd saying to Rio , u are ahead of me

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 Год назад +3

      @@Mmm-ix7eh he really wasn't, there's a man utd fan right there who didn't bring up Vidic

    • @economicswithruss6259
      @economicswithruss6259 Год назад

      @@Mmm-ix7eh hahaha good one

    • @economicswithruss6259
      @economicswithruss6259 Год назад

      @@gamingscout592 I have, and VVD was being humble, Rio literally laughed because he knows

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  • @tommysargent3069
    @tommysargent3069 Год назад +19

    “Trent revolutionised the right back role” dani alves and numerous other full backs were doing it before he was

    • @FatTodd
      @FatTodd Год назад +9

      Nah Trent's style is different. Alves locked off the whole right wing by himself because barca never lost the ball

    • @mattyisfantastic
      @mattyisfantastic Год назад

      But Trent has done it better

    • @Johnster123.
      @Johnster123. Год назад

      In terms of the Premier League..

    • @Ashley_MG
      @Ashley_MG Год назад +2

      Did Dani Alves play in the Premier League?

    • @FerdinandMutie
      @FerdinandMutie Год назад

      @Hypolite Izerimana i love playing against Trent in Fifa.....shit ass defender but no cap Trent is a real G and i would to see him win more even as a United Fan

  • @thiagoteixeira6537
    @thiagoteixeira6537 Год назад +2

    Damn Grizz was so fair to Man United! Fair play mate!

  • @afellownerd
    @afellownerd Год назад +1

    Gk: Schmeichel
    Rb: trent
    Cb: Ferdinand, van dijk
    Lb: irwin
    Cdm: keane
    Cm: scholes, Gerrard
    Rw: salah
    Lw: ronaldo
    St: rooney
    Bench
    Van de sar
    Neville
    Vidic
    Carrick
    Beckham
    Mane
    Suarez
    Cantona
    Giggs

  • @xJamessii
    @xJamessii Год назад +20

    Honestly at this point, Mckola has to be playing a character... Surely?

  • @gumpastee
    @gumpastee Год назад +1

    How is Bobby Charlton, George Best, Ian Rush etc. not in, they said all time XI.

  • @jakesoccerhead
    @jakesoccerhead Год назад

    ngl, i dont watch a lot of these videos, but thye should start from the back and move forwards, cause thats where it get more heated. jumping straight from midfield to forward, completely ignoring defense to start, put the salah v ronaldo debate 5 or 6 mins into the video. great video, just a little nitpick i guess

  • @stuartabbott2307
    @stuartabbott2307 Год назад +13

    Salah has to take right wing spot over Beckham simply due to the fact it's a 4-3-3. In a 4-4-2, Beckham is the best right midfielder the premier league has seen. Beckham's football ability is so underrated by opposition fans.

  • @ImmortalRises
    @ImmortalRises Год назад +11

    Massive respect to Rooney, but Suarez was that little bit special this man was breaking records and missing a handful of games too, it was a joke how good Suarez was, just look at the chances he missed, outrageous he shouldn’t even be trying to score. Suarez’ technical ability is slept on how he isn’t mentioned alongside Benzema and Lewi is disrespect. Suarez also has the 3rd most assists in all of football, for a forward that is nuts. Rooney was more of a direct forward, a proper striker and a brilliant one too. For me Suarez just edges it Rooney is a brilliant goal scorer and if I could play 2 up front it would be them 2.

    • @rambo1872
      @rambo1872 Год назад

      If ur talking about them in their prime suarez miles better, but premier league 11 u have to give it to Rooney for longevity and accolades

    • @manino5872
      @manino5872 Год назад

      No if your talking prime then suarez is better from a united fan but in terms of longevity in the prem and overall, rooney is better

  • @virajsraul
    @virajsraul Год назад

    Wow, the best agreed all time Xi video ever...sensible, smart and mostly the right choices

  • @muhammadfirdausbinmohdkama1607
    @muhammadfirdausbinmohdkama1607 Год назад +2

    A relief for grizz not face ty again look how calm the grizz is😅

  • @adamhart70
    @adamhart70 Год назад +6

    These “all times” have lost meaning….because kenny or rush take that number 9 spot, barnes would get a strong mention, clemence in goal, come on now

    • @olliewellstood1963
      @olliewellstood1963 Год назад +2

      This is based off premier league, should be stated in the title but it’s not. Otherwise you can consider players such as Bobby Charlton as well

    • @Matt-fe6wu
      @Matt-fe6wu Год назад

      This is the premier league era

    • @jhaych
      @jhaych Год назад

      It was Premier league only, we'd then also have Chalton, best, law etc

    • @Robert-ks5ix
      @Robert-ks5ix Год назад

      Football started in 92 remember

  • @poloutz
    @poloutz Год назад +1

    These 2 know ball - exactly the team I would have gone for.

  • @Ashley_MG
    @Ashley_MG Год назад +1

    Bless that Liverpool fan. What a gent

  • @adam01101
    @adam01101 Год назад +6

    feel bad for Thogden having to deal with these two

    • @louisdnd934
      @louisdnd934 Год назад +18

      Feel bad for these 2 for having Thogden next to them

    • @adnanhaid3r1
      @adnanhaid3r1 Год назад

      nah he's just rubbish, rory's clear

    • @Losmerengues1902
      @Losmerengues1902 Год назад +1

      @@adnanhaid3r1 Rory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣