Great video. But you have misunderstood the healing mechanic in the game. It's nearly the same as Dark Souls. When you rest at a shrine, your "estus flasks" refill. I don't know why you imply it doesn't. The difference is that Nioh allows you to pick up non-permanent "estus flasks" in the environment. This is maxed at 10. But as you level up, you increase your permanent, refillable "estus flasks." In other words...you have 4 permanent estus flasks. You use them all. You pray at a shrine and you will get all 4 back. but if you pick up non-permanent estus flasks in the world (say you gather 2 more making your total 6) if you drink all of them, and rest at a shrine, you will revert back to 4.
I find it silly seeing people review Nioh after playing for not even a week. You could put 150 hours into this game and still be learning new game breaking mechanics.
It's interesting to note that the 3 stances are based on Japanese Kendo. With the sword above your head, you are opening your defense for high attack power. With the the sword down you are measuring distance between you and your enemy (Real life), hence your speed is higher. With the sword in the middle you are in defense/default combat position.
I've been waiting for a From Software set in a non-European setting. I just thought it would be BY From Software. Japanese mythology is TERRIFYING, so this is perfect. Now all we need is one based on Native American culture. Go north and you find Inuit cultures, killing off abandoned villages filled with wendigos. Go south and you'll find a giant bat for a boss in an Mayan temple full of mummies. I'm waiting, From Software.
+Aza Smith AS cool as that would be might be a while. Miyazaki was planning on taking a break from the souls series to work on new IP's as he didn't want Dark Souls like games to become an annual thing like CoD.
+Aza Smith as long as we could make our characters look however we want and not be forced to make Native American characters, I'm for it. Muh Pyrus need his orange skin and red eyes/hair, damnit!
yep... let's just hope it doesn't die. Nioh with it's skill builds, and fantastic deep combat mechanics, layers additional difficulty in complexity of combat not pure punishment which is definitely way forward.
yeah, after like overall 8 hours of playing the beta i ended up thinking "Gosh, am I digging this more than Miyazaki games, combat wise?" it's that good. the fact that's hard doesn't matter. just look at the Souls series. it worked.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer I'm pretty sure the combat is suppose to be hard for new players....just as the souls games were hard mostly for newcomers then after beating it, it's gets easier the more you play. Hardest part is usually the beginning stage.
Actually, you know what this game reminds me of? Onimusha. Think about it, the game is reliant on being able to handle various enemies that follow the same rules you do. It punishes those who get greedy or plan improperly and rewards those who take their time and improve their skill. Hell, the combo system and otherwise can be related to the special attacks from the different weapons you got in Onimusha. Still, for that alone, I want to check this out.
Lone Knight You DO realize that's the Ps2, which was considered by everyone to be the best console of it's time. (Hell it had THE best launch line up ever) The problem with the Onimusha series was just it didn't do so well when it tried to change things up with "Dawn Of Dreams" Plus Capcom being Capcom back around that time (2006) they were in their "change everything" stage. So you can guess why we never seen much from the Onimusha series again.
Don't get it twisted, I liked it as well... But you could tell due to it not having the best of sales (according to Capcom, it under performed), Capcom decided to shelf the series. Sad really.
+Elvis Presley geralt and eredin buttfuck vesimir. then geralt thinks eredin is going to love him forever until he cuts off geralts penis. then leaves him for a water hag. eredin couldnt resist those saggy boobies.
For those watching this in 2020 the complaint he has about the Elixirs (estes flasks) is fixed to where excess goes to storage, and you're given a minimum of three at every shrine and possibly more depending on the number of Kodama you find throughout the region
1r0zz think someones jealous that the Witcher will most likely be the highest rated game for the next couples decades, and whatever game they decide to fanboy over will never compare to it. but yea, youre right, Witcher 3 doesnt have good gameplay, not like it won hundreds of awards for its gameplay or anything
I really like the sound of no I-frames. When I first learned about dark souls and started playing it, it seemed so hard because naturally you wouldn't think you could just phase through an attack. Well when I found out, I realized that the game was definitely nowhere near as hard as people were saying. This changes things up. Also the combat looks fantastic and the setting is awesome. 1v1 samurai fights will never get old.
Doctopus ***** I don't get it. You think in reality you can just roll in the direction of a demon's mighty hulking fist and you will be left unscathed?
+Mike M you think in reality there's demons with might hulking fists in the first place it's a fantasy game they have to have I-frames or some boss fights would LITERALLY be impossible to beat just because of there sheer size of course it's going to make it less difficult but what your not accounting for is the enemies follow up attacks that can catch you right out of roll and them following it up afterwards with a big combo and getting perfect timing on rolls can be very difficult depending on the situation this its still difficult a lot of the enemies attacks are delayed specifically so it can catch you out of a roll dark souls is still pretty difficult
The Jake eh I know what you're saying but Dark Souls really isn't difficult once you realize there's I frames. Also, 3 gives way too many rolls and s. I was never damaged in a roll. 2 was okay but bad hit boxes made some bosses wierd to deal with like Sinner. 1 was the best with rolling. Costed a lot, had to be timed right, and you couldn't just roll INTO attacks, because you would get damaged. You had to roll through them, left or right. It only had 4 roll directions though.
layton115 Example: You can hold a maximum of 8 Elixirs (restores HP) so if you pick up a 9th elixir, you'll be asked if you want to send the 9th one to your storage chest. If you have 4 elixirs and 10 elixirs in storage, it will automatically take 4 from storage so you have the maximum 8 again. of course, you must return to a shrine (like bonfire in DS/ checkpoint) to reload the used items.
@@hubblebublumbubwub5215 he probably is talking about fanboys biting each others asses on the comment.. Mature, well thought-out unbiased comparisons are welcome
Did you watch the video? Because it's not a comparison, it's drawing contra-standards to an absent yet associated title within the same medium. It's a way to start talking points without having to jump into and explain every detail because others have set the foundation before it. Also, there's nothing wrong with comparing likes. We don't live in a vacuum where other games were never created to compare to one another. You have to look at a body of work to get a sense of what's truly good and poor.
+TerraMantis I was watching it as I was typing that. But still, the similarities are minimum to be honest, as other have pointed out. Nioh has more in common with other titles from Team Ninja and it shares just some mechanics with Dark Souls
It's not "just some mechanics" that Nioh shares with Dark Souls. And it's definitely not "minimum" similarities. Shrines in Nioh act exactly like bonfires as checkpoints to rest and choose your Ninjustu and Magic loadout just like Sorceries and Miracles loadouts. Stats are almost identical to literally every Soulsborne game. Roughly 90% of the items in Nioh have literally the exact same effect as every consumable from Souls, but the names are different. Co-op works almost the exact same with phantoms. Death mechanics of retrieving your gravestone so you don't lose amrita (souls) from where you died last is the same as bloodstains. Amrita, like souls, is used as currency to level up just like Soulsborne. The armor weight system effects roll and dodging speed just like Souls. The elixir system is identical to blood vials from Bloodborne. Weapon stances of Nioh hold the same principle as weapon transformations of Bloodborne. The list goes on. I'm not saying Nioh isn't doing something very differently or putting its own spin on very similar concepts from Soulsborne - enough to such a degree that it's justifying itself to stand apart from Souls - but to say its similarities are minimal to Souls is ridiculous. The developers themselves compared it to Souls.
This game is going to be an absolute beast and start of a franchise that will live harmoniously with the Souls series and community. It has already been embraced. Every player I encountered in the demo was from Souls anyway. What I played was borderline masterpiece. I am so hyped for this game it ain't even funny. Also, your preview is excellent, as usual.
All of the gripes in this video has been rectified in the latest beta, so they'll sure be fixed in the release. The stamina regain etc are explained in the tutorial. Consumable items now go to storage as surplus. PVP is coming after launch as a free DLC, proper friend co-op with password is also included in the latest beta and also there is another form of co-op included. Team ninja has listened to most all player feedback and have added all and beyond to the game.
My main problem with Nioh is that a samurai themed Dark Souls game was not what I wanted. I had been following this game ever since that first teaser trailer came out when the PS3 was announced and was excited since but when I played the alpha demo, I was hoping for something different than Dark Souls. Don't get me wrong, I love the series, but I was just hoping for something different and the fact that this game is trying to be similar is disappointing to me.
I never had a problem with the Elixers and farming. Most of the enemies in the second stage drop at least 1 Elixer after death, plus you always get 3 elixer's from the shrine by default. Also, I'm pretty sure you can increase your Elixer restoration capacity by leveling up a certain stat (I forget which one it was, but I remember always starting with 4 after leveling up a bit instead of 3)
Thank you very much for this video. At first Nioh sounded really interesting for me but without s and a "blood vial storage" I won't be happy with the game, no matter how great the other aspects are. I got in love with my dodge system in DS3 - maybe I'm too unfair to want it in other games too but I'm just too addicted. Again thank you very much - your video was 100% what I was searching for since all the other reviews didn't answer my questions
No problem. I'm glad you found something you're looking for. That said, the Alpha this video was based on and a Beta have both passed since this video was made and Team Ninja implemented a lot of feedback based off videos like this. A lot has changed since this video was made nearly a year ago now. There's a storage system which was showcased in the Beta and there are i-frames, but the i-frames are not as forgiving as Souls. I'm not telling you to go out and buy the game, just wait for people to talk about the final release before you jump to any conclusions. Feedback and development has altered the game a lot since the Alpha. I have other videos about the progression of the game as the year went on and I played it.
TerraMantis wow thank you very much. I'm going to watch your other videos. You are great :-D there should be more people who answer the questions like you
They fixed it, Not It's not just like a Blood vials its actually like Estus flasks now. No need for farming!! if you do pick up health vials its now a bonus
The revenant system is something I've been wanting in the Souls games for a very long time now; what better way to keep 'online' play alive long after a game's life cycle than to immortalize real builds as npc summons/invaders? This almost makes up for the other lackluster elements of online play you mentioned. On another note, I was initially quite disappointed to learn that this game resembled Onimusha less than some had suggested, but it's looking like it may be quite a wonderful game after all, and one that I'll have an easier time getting one of my close friends to try out(I think he might even enjoy it more than I will), especially once they fix up the summoning system ;) I've had my fair share of solo play interspersed with random encounters over the last 5 years, and I'm ready for a soulslike in which co-op can be arranged directly for a change.
+Iron-Yogi lol, as an addict myself, at least with dark souls 3, i can relate. but i wish there were more games like dragon's dogma: dark arisen that gets copied too, enjoyed that one more still. 159+ hours dark souls 3 and 599+ hours dragon's dogma: dark arisen.
@@wallacesousuke1433 Yeah i never understood the whole feel with the game. Like bruh enemies quickly become punching bags, and a fucking tank sometimes. Why does a goblin requires a fire spell, two arrows to the face, and fuckton of slashes to die
Btw, i don't agree with your opinion to change the elixir. Like the souls series, depending how good you are at the game, you COULD technically run through it without being hit a single time. I mean, the guy in your vid was wearing no armour and didn't get hit once by the boss. Instead of seeing it as JUST an action RPG, I think the developers were going for a more gritty and dark SURVIVAL action RPG, which is why it'll be up to YOU, the player, to 'farm' for items. (I think they just intended for you to pick them up on the way) Well, it's just my opinion. It is it's own game after all.
"Fucking eh man. That's an amazing idea. Git Gud or farm like a peasant." No, that's a shit idea. A game having challenge and teaching you to get better is good. A game punishing you and wasting your time is not good, and doesn't help the player improve. It's bad design and they were right to change it.
+Nick Fedorov not at all... you know kids, your videogame ignorance hurts... onimusha is a completely different beast, that you are abusing to somehow hide the two great game inspiring this: Demon Souls and Ninja Gaiden...
+clubg100 yeah and some opinions are based on less facts than others. Not every opinion is equally valuable. Just saying "its my opinion" doesn't absolve you from other people calling you out on your factual errors.
1r0zz c'mon, it's a game about oriental-looking guy killing other oriental-looking guys and oriental-looking demons. There are has to be some similarities.
Nick Fedorov first the main character is William Adams (or Miura Anjin) a real historical "western Samurai"... second in onimusha you fight fictional demons from a fictional war aganist Oni. in this the demons are all real world japanese folklore. you are actually being RACIST. because you are taking elements from something and just flocking them all together with strong prejudice.
I can't help but kind of respect the way in which companies have been capitalizing off the idea of the Souls formula. Don't get me wrong, I'm usually not the type to respect developers who jump on bandwagon movements, but considering the Souls series has seen 3 sequels(including Bloodborne) since 2014 - and the series will probably be on hiatus for a while, we need some healthy competition. Beyond that, I like how they've been focused on creating different aesthetics and environments, since that's always important to the overall feel of a Souls game. I know many people were disappointed with Lords of the Fallen, but I think Nioh will probably give us enough variety and differentiation to make itself something great.
+The Angry Little Alchemist Also, I REALLY wish I played games like Ninja Gaiden. I've played Monster Hunter 4 and that's freakin' amazing, but a lot of action games like Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden, no.
+phar0ahad3 cause to me it feels more ninja gaiden meets tenchu with souls elements . onimusha felt more hack slash capcom typical style of the likes of devil may cry
+phar0ahad3 No not at all its brutally hard souls style gameplay but mechanics and controls of ninja gaiden but has certain items and area design very close to tenchu
I'm a huge fan of Koei Tecmo, so I was excited to give this game a try. I've been waiting since it's original announcement back with the PS3. However, I did not get a chance to really play the Alpha demo. The Beta demo has updated a couple of my initial concerns and I actually found it slightly easier. We'll see what the full release has going for it, but I'm so hyped.
Hmm... The alpha gameplay reminded me more of Onimusha and Ninja Gaiden than it did a souls game. Souls is definitely sprinkled in there, but I'd say this is more of a spiritual successor to Onimusha than anything else. Whatever Nioh may be, it's definitely a breath of fresh air.
I like Nioh because it's Dark Souls enough for me to like it and it's different enough to feel fresh unlike DS3 that for me was just all previous games combined and constant feeling of deja vu. I really hope they will not make Nioh easier in final version, or at least made easy mode only an option.
Knowledge get both play one when your not feelin the other that’s what I do lol I have nioh, ds3, and bloodborne and I just play whichever one I’m not stuck on at the moment. Until you get stuck on a boss on all of them at the same time
Pretty good video, but again familiarity with souls is causing him to gloss over important points based on presumed similarities. Not a unique issue though since I've seen a lot of people making the same mistakes. Just in the discussion of stances alone he's already undersold half the function and use of each stance, such as low stance having inifnite regular attacks in it's default combo as well as delivering OTG hits to fallen enemies consistently, high stance always driving down the enemy center line; but leaving your vulnerable to low stance dodge-strafing specifically or the variable amounts of stagger each stance can take or inflict. The kick can be mapped to any stance, not just mid as said in the video, like the stun aura. I am glad he actually saw video demonstrating the living weapon infinite combos I've talked about, though he doesn't seem to get how they work, or at least to explain it. Taking into account that factor, the player actually constantly has the advantage over each enemy in terms of abilities and options, seeing an enemy that can ki pulse would be interesting to see, or better yet perhaps a humanoid boss also able to deploy a guardian spirit as their living weapon. He's also completely wrong about stanima yet again, though it's the number 1 inaccuracy of the press and most LPers. I watched tbfp play and was infuriated that they ran out of ki TWICE without triggering the animation, yet the first time it happened they attributed it to running out of ki. This is something people coming from souls are consistently overlooking, depleting your ki incurs no penalty, and in fact the last move to reduce your ki to 0 has however much more than 0 would have been spent included as free. Then attempting to spend ki WHILE ALREADY at 0, the animation is triggered. A reserved player who feels out the number of hits they can land in each stance will never trigger the animation even once. So I actually love this element and consider it the core of Nioh's combat, baiting foes into over-exerting themselves so that you can hammer down their ki with regular attacks or combos, then exploit their vulnerability. The fact that different enemies tire at different rates, have different stats and that you're required to observe and react to these on an individual basis makes every enemy far more engaging. He also doesn't discuss how yokai work by a different ki system, where instead of opening up to grapples, they instead suffer increased stun damage, allowing a player who's savvy at ki pulsing or pops living weapon and doesn't relent to finish them off the second their ki flashes red. It's a small thing, but it makes enemies much larger than you feel a lot more thrilling to fight and rewards you for not conceding too much ground or backing off. Storage definitely does need to be implemented and weapon disassembly needs to be made more obvious since the familiarity system is going to stump a lot of people otherwise, and I'd prefer to have some fusion mechanic to allow me to level a weapon to equal that of a stronger one I obtain if I just prefer that weaker weapon. I would however not prefer a straight up estus system but some level of compromise between estus and bloodborne, allowing weaker players to farm higher amounts like bloodborne and store them would be great, with a base amount that can be increased over time for dark souls purists. Or perhaps more along the DS2 method of having a non-replenished grindable item for struggling players, while letting more confident players stick to elixirs. Item switching could also use some work, I'd rather have two of the buttons scroll through a list and the other use the highlighted item rather than only have 3 available, I frequently wanted to have my onmyo talisman, my caltrops and my healing item equipped but then also have the firebombs .etc available as well. And while the game drops ample whetstones and glue, I'd much rather just have lower durability on items but replenish it at shrines if they're unbroken. Totes agree on PVP arenas .etc, but I could do without going too soulsy with covenants and the like either. Overall though I largely agree and look forward to seeing changes made in a subsequent alpha or beta. Considering how much TecmoKoei took on feedback from toukiden's early feedback, I expect a lot to be added or changed over time given their record.
+Cantabile Selling normal gear gifted me a large amount of extra elixirs, allowing one to face a boss with a filled inventory, selling of gear as you make attempts to net more elixirs. It's not ideal, but it's something. I'm pretty sure we haven't seen the final iteration of the system though.
washaa Yeah and I made use of that too, but it's still random what you get in rewards, even if elixirs are the most common; once you hit 10 elixirs, you just can't pick up any extras, period meaning I tried to roll with no more than 9 at any given time. A storage box is an absolute must for the final game.
Nioh was so awesome these last couple of days. I learned a bunch and could tell this is going to be a great ps4 title. I hope they do iron out some of the healing item limits, but being a Ninja Gaiden fan I am so used to fighting bosses with limited supplies. great video!
I like the fact that u neither bashed the game for the sectors it did bad on or sugar coat the ones it did good on...I didn't know about the game until I saw your video..this game surely has great potential and a unique style(not gameplay) but as u said it's on alpha so i keep my safe distance ...it sure is on my radar now...great video man keep it up :)
TheNinjatsu Onimusha is a resident evil camera using give him a sword instead of a gun put demons instead of zombies let's change the whole story game nothing about Onimusha is original Devil may cry uses the same camera views but it's a good game action Packed and fun fuck Onimusha the only game team ninja had that was good was ninja geidan everything else was a copy of a copy flat out
To those who cry about the game being an exclusive: Do you even understand how competition between consoles works? You buy the console that has the most exclusives that appeal to you. It has always been like this.
+Igeljäger But, does it need to be like this? I mean, what do you gain, as a customer, from exclusives? I mean, I know that companies do get a lot of money from this, but they also spend a lot on platform exclusivity.
Culturally Enriched Knight of Distributive Justice It instills a feeling of loyalty and a sort of "console nationalism" in their customer base. It makes them feel special because they can play a game that other consoles and the PC can't play normally without buying a PS4 themselves.
+Jewbear1884 Let's not try and act like it's just consoles. It's just as potent on PC, you just see it less often as high-budget PC exclusives are much rarer. Given the opportunity, they're just as bad as the console users. Star Citizen has been their poster child for the past couple years.
wait what.. Team ninja is working on that? A samurai themed game which is souls-inspired AND ninjagaiden-inspired? That has to be the best thing humanity has ever created, i'm sold. Forget penicilin, this is an invention on another level.
WeLiVeR no you do not fight demons. you fight Genmas, that are as far as I know a fictional race not based on folklore. genmas created by Fortinbrans... in this you fight creature HEAVILY based on real life japanese folklore. being a samurai and fighting demons is not really enough to say this copies onimusha... it doesn't, and any way you say onimusha related to this is an insult to both onimusha and this game...
WeLiVeR I already explained you what the hell Genmas are... also, "similar" is not the case here. as Onimusha has fixed camera and a linear action gameplay... unless you really want to go the racist route to have "all samurais are all the same"... pushing all this Onimusha nonsense you hurt this game. why? why nag at this game by making up insults? I do not get you people.
Why did you not address the weapon degradation? It was absolutely atrocious and when combined with the awful menus made for a very frustrating experience. It's not like the wet stones are a dime a dozen. That being said, I liked the alpha overall and hope they address these issues so I can enjoy the final product.
the first boss room had two to three of each every run and they were absolutely littered about that I couldn't get rid of them all throw away ten just to find ten more four guys later.
durability is a good thing indeed. feeling that you cant always fight with your favorite weapon caus it wont be usable when you really need it is kind of cool i think. also having to be careful of what kind of ennemy or attack you deal with caus they might destroy your equipment if they spit acid on it is quite of an additionnal challenge. something that is not really in DS3, my weapons never broke more than half before i reach the next bonfire... of course if your katana really breaks after only 10 ennemies its way too fast
It's not like Demon's Souls. It's Onimusha mixed with Reboot Ninja Gaiden. You misunderstood the healing items. It's like an old game. It doesn't have to be like Souls.
That's exactly what I said! It's feels just like the old onimusha games but revamped. They even share the same characters and extremely lite story similarities (Nobunaga using demons to achieve his goals)
The best thing about this video is the thumbnail. It's so fitting. Noir is like, "I'm a new game and so hard to beat." looking all grouchy and stern. While dark souls is all like, "I'm dark souls. The fuck do you expect?" with it's so nonchalant expression.
Well Terra, it looks like you got all of your wishes. I've finished every bit of content in the beta and they've done everything right this time around, I could play with my friends on any level as we saw fit, the way you can jump into random games is also great and every complaint you had here was the same as mine during the alpha and it's all been looked at and fixed accordingly, I hope other dark souls fans can enjoy this game to the extent that I finally have, I want it to go far and have a community much like souls. I can't wait for release.
+TheDaniel5612 Finally somebody else got an Onimusha vibe from this game. I see the ninja gaiden influence, but ninja gaiden is considerably faster. This game felt more like Onimusha in pacing.
Thugga The Goat The games arent cancer, the exclusivity is. im sure Nioh will be great but fuck buying a ps4 or xbone for 2 or 3 games exclusively on it. Ill stick with my dual boot linux/windows setup for maximum open-sourceness.
+NightBringer people could boycott them.. but I bet people will still try to be dicks and find a way to keep the cancerous console wars going some how. fuck the exclusives.. its the community of asshole gamers who are cancerous.
Love the in-depth analysis, given that when i played the... beta i believe, there was a feature to increase the number of "estus" you have, and you start by regaining 3 i believe. So they may be listening! :D plus i think the second boss was a different one, unless i missed a boss D:
Lmao nice joke. Nioh's combat is the only thing it has going for it. Literally EVERYTHING else is undeniably subpar in comparison to Souls. And Fromsoft unlike Team Ninja, actually knows how to balance their games properly.
@@hare75 Fromsoft games I mean souls type games. By that logic we might as well compare any game to any game of the industry jn general. Armored core is an entirely different genre all together.
I do think tecmo/koei is making a mistake in not releasing this game in multiplatform/pc i absolutely loved the alpha, while being punishing ( even more than dark souls ) you learn so much every time you die while the combat system is phenomenal and deep, This game definitely deserves to be played by everyone and from what i know they dont seem to have made a deal with sony on this one, it seems they are willing to skip making money on this game..
Why do you think this game is exclusive? Because they made a deal with Sony. Tecmo have no control of what system they can put it on, only Sony has that right. And actually you can make much more money by focusing the game on one console, look at the last of us, uncharted 4, halo, bloodborne, Etc. And one thing is for sure, it's to sell consoles.
+Taylor Sparks Those games you just mentioned are all first party, really bad examples. it's really not the same but sure if they striked a deal like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2 or what Sony did with Bloodborne It would be obvious. But if Koei-Tecmo are just releasing this only ps4 for the sake of it i do think they are making a bad decision.
franky Bloodborne is not a first party exclusive mind you. And again fool, Koei Tecmo have no control over the exclusivity. You wanna complain, go complain to Sony, but it's a 0% chance.
A few things that have changed based on the Last Chance Demo. 1. There is password matching now akin to DS3 and BB. It is the Secret Word system. 2. Rumor has it that they are planning an arena for PvP but I haven't heard if that'll be at release or down the road. 3. Elixers are now stored in a storage house of sorts and hold a limited number of a certain item to actually discourage farming for elixers and the like. 4. I have been playing Souls since Demons Souls and I found myself hopping right into the combat in a survivable manner within about 3 or 4 deaths. The game is brutally punishing but you tune in on it pretty quickly. I really struggled with the first boss of the LCB but after I beat her the first time I rarely died again until I tried it on Twilight Mission mode with a friend. Twice we got pseudo-cheated out of victory as we felt before the beta went down at 2AM Monday morning.
Theres nothing wrong with the elixer aspect imo. You just didn't know how to aquire elixers during early game (there wasn't a tutorial for it so I'm not surprised). There are invinsible frames btw. It happens when you evade. And I'm pissed af that you were able to find a seperate boss :/. I finished the alpha 100% but never saw that dog/beast. Only a female "vampire".
This was for the Alpha. A lot has changes since nearly the year ago that this was made. Also, that's why you never saw the boss, the Pre-Alpha, Alpha and Beta all had different stuff showcased.
There's a couple uploads of one of the developers playing the game and other trash people. If you've seen or played the beta, you can find the vid (it's an hour long) and see what they did. So far ik they added that flail & sythe/sickle weapon, should new bosses, and..... that's it from what I remember. OH! They have secret paths like in Lords Of The Fallen (breakable walls).
Alex there's several videos on this channel that follow the progression and changes of the game over the course of the past 10 months across the Alpha, Beta and some closed-doors time I had with the game and the lead developers. If you'd like to watch those just go to this channel's homepage and the videos are under the "Nioh" section. I will say though that basically every issue or problem I stated with Nioh in this video has been addressed. Not only that but each time Team Ninja has released a trial of the game they contacted myself and others like me for feedback. Again, nearly every criticism I've had each time has been addressed with changes to the game. They're doing a fantastic job absorbing and implementing feedback. Additionally, literally just today, Team Ninja just announced a final Beta for 48 hours starting on the 20th of January. So you can test the game out and the changes for yourself if you have a PS4. Last but not least, they also announced a free PvP patch that will be added on to the game after launch. Alright, hope that helps.
+TerraMantis From what you said about the healing items, i've had no problem with nioh's mechanics or bloodborne. That being said when i first played nioh i thought the same way and thought it should be more like the estus flask until i gave it some more thought the game thrives on being near perfect and through the demo i've became more better at the game and i wasnt losing as much healing items as i was when i first started. Same with bloodborne I was constantly running out of blood vials because i tried to dish out as much damage as possible without giving my stamina any consideration, I don't think the blood vial mechanics in bloodborne were that bad, same with the elixirs in nioh the only problem i've had was not being able to keep a certain amount of surplus which didn't bother me as much as it used to since i've played enough to get most of the mechanics down and learn the enemy's pattern.
+Kaidez I feel the same way. I thought that the healing mechanic was a huge problem because of my struggles with the second boss until I learned that he could run out of stamina and you could just go to town on him. I hope they don't change anything besides weapon degradation.
Stoneheart jesus christ the weapon degradation it was tough trying to find whetstones just so you can repair that shit you call a sword also ayyyy yuru yuri.
really great in-depth analysis. I'm really happy to see more souls-like games being made. I have no idea if Nioh started out with mechanics more similar to ninja gaiden or if it was souls-like before demon's souls even came out but i'm really looking forward to this game
@@maltespielt5566 i kinda gave up on dark souls all together. might try 3 or bloodborne if it ever came on pc. nioh was great but got too much repetitive visually n bloated
this is like comparing dark souls to lords of the Fallen. you're missing the point entirely. dark souls is one of the best games ever created because it's a modern day Zelda, it's so fully realized in terms of its vision, tone, world and mechanics. every enemy intricately placed, freedom to go any where yet difficultly spikes tell you you're not ready for that area yet, etc. the game is hard but fair. not hard for the sake of it/to be edgy.
it is really good and so original too they made the dark world and fucking bonfires that everyone will remember forever ripping off can never be as good as this ds art
With regards to the healing items issue; i too hate farming but i took the alternate route of learning how to take down the bosses with just the standard 3 elixers. Definitely difficult, but perhaps less frustrating overall (and more satisfying!)
no one will ever be able to surpass dark souls in my opinion. that doesnt mean that the games wont be good but people will most likely go back to dark souls
Raging Soul Yep ... After a year has passed, I keep finding myself coming back to the souls series even though I've seen EVERYTHING it can give. I keep expecting it to get boring and repetitive which it does after binging it for a month but that's why I give it a month of playing other new games until I eventually come crawling back to it like always
For me it's the opposite. The combat in Nioh just feels so good... that being said, DS has a way better soundtrack and graphics that don't make everyone look like plastic-faced anime characters.
@murnavid yeah that's fine if you don't like it, I respect your opinion. I feel the same for Dark Souls, I don't get why people love it so much, I tried to like it but I couldn't play it at all.
@murnavid I'm up for that, I'll play Sekiro then, most importantly it has a story and characters unlike Dark Souls. If you still don't like Nioh after another try then try Nioh 2 that might be better, I didn't play it yet.
The Elixir complaint is unwarranted. I'm sorry but it screams git gudish. You could try not spending hours grinding for Elixirs and spend it focusing on the boss and gameplay mechanics along with the enemy layouts. After I platinum'd all of the Souls games and Bloodborne and after I beat all of the Alpha and Beta content I'd just say it goes hand in hand with the game's difficulty. I beat the first boss at level five and the second at 16 in the Beta. The third at 20 all severely under leveled. Totally cool with it keeping its healing item system from the Alpha.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer Yeah but it refills you to three... He kept using the number 10 I thought the second Alpha boss was easy as shit but that second and third beta boss. Fuck. Makhi Makharadze And yeah Bloodborne too, what's the ultimate Blood vials cap? Like, 29? I love Bloodborne though, because if you suck at it so bad I like the idea that you can't get blood vials at lamps. If you want to go without healing items, git gud. If you want them you have to farm the fuck out of them. I just like the idea of people rage quitting in Bloodborne because they're so bad they have to use blood vials as soon as they get them. Especially when you look at like the Trophy percentages, so many people rage quit that game. If Nioh didn't refill I'd be okay with it. Unfortunately, we live in a world where this game has to make money. I just hope it crushes Souls fans. The only ones I found of any challenge were parts of Bloodborne and DS1.
FOR ALL WHO WILL PLAY THIS GAME (since alpha is over by now)... in options menu there is a game mode setting. Movie mode is preselected so make sure to change it to action mode for pure and stable framerate. Makes the game soooooo much better.
+Pat Bone I loved Tenchu when I was a kid. I played the shit out of 1, 2 and Wrath of Heaven. I never played Z but I heard mixed things. Doesn't From Software own that IP now?
I love souls games not only for combat, I think that the most enjoyable part of game that makes me stay in there for long-long time is multiplayer and alas this game will lack one. Also I really like to customize my character, "create" some kind of backstory for them, to be able to choose their sex, clothing and way they behave, however it seems that Nioh will have already preset character for everyone as well as written backstory and plot interaction. I think many players will feel in the same way and some developers forget when they claim their game to be "soulslike" that not combat system and being "hard and punishing" makes souls game to be a souls game.
I never said anything about copying, I'm just saying that inspiration lies not only in combat and the game being punishing. Ninja Gaiden was hard and punishing with in-depths combat system - but was it "soulslike"? I doubt so. It just gives me impression when developers are giving statements like that, they, in fact, just want to get additional audience from souls games fans.
+adradox Apparently the game is based of off an unreleased Akira Kurosawa film. Nioh is like 3% Dark Souls. Very few things are actually like DS at all really. It's pretty annoying that people compare them simply from the slight online interaction.
7:52 I can't belive at some point in development they thought it was a good idea to not allow you to store elixirs. In the current version it's even more of a non-issue than in Bloodborne, since after you get comfortable enough with the fighting you'll have hundreds and hundreds of elixirs in storage at all times. Wow, they really changed a lot from the alpha.
Looks way interesting. Maybe the (estus) in Nioh will be fixed: a player can take steps to raise their "minimum" level of flasks, but they still have the option to farm for more. That way, death will not condemn a player to farming from weak mobs, but if said player wants to face a boss, they can always improve their chances by grabbing extras before the fight. Also, the lack of s and shields seems like a good mixup. I couldn't imagine fighting a prowling demon (DaS I) without either.
@@yrh002b8 i finally just beat dark souls 3 and can say, it was the most boring ive had with a game. enemies werent hard they were just glitchy. they can literally 180 from any position, thats not natural. and the dodge roll is sooooooooooooo clunky. If it wasnt for the cool art style of the monsters, i wouldnt of made it through.
I would remove durability from weapons... it's annoying on dark souls (especially DS2, since it's pretty hard to break your weapon on DS1 and 3) and even more in NIOH. A good thing though is that you dont need to warp to level up like you do in DS2, 3 and bloodborne... DS1 did it right allowing you to lvl up at the bonfire, so does NIOH, but those other 3 games force you to endure 2 loading screens (one for you to reach firelink shrine for example and the other one to get back to where you were) and it's completely unnecessary. I would even consider it "bad design".
The Wild Wolf! I hated the bonfire level up system it was dumb seriously it makes sense to have something that can draw your true strength but that's me
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Dark Witcher Gaiden: The Wild Ninja Souls
OK where do I pre-order?
+Omnic Monk LOL You made my day xDD
fuck witcher
Black Fedora witcher is the most overrated game i've ever seen
psykosonikwarrior what do you know about good taste?
Great video. But you have misunderstood the healing mechanic in the game. It's nearly the same as Dark Souls. When you rest at a shrine, your "estus flasks" refill. I don't know why you imply it doesn't. The difference is that Nioh allows you to pick up non-permanent "estus flasks" in the environment. This is maxed at 10. But as you level up, you increase your permanent, refillable "estus flasks." In other words...you have 4 permanent estus flasks. You use them all. You pray at a shrine and you will get all 4 back. but if you pick up non-permanent estus flasks in the world (say you gather 2 more making your total 6) if you drink all of them, and rest at a shrine, you will revert back to 4.
Ah, so the other heal items are like DS2's system of lesser healing gems. Thanks for the explanation. Good observation.
Give this comment an upvote coz i was totally disatisfied by the wrong explanation of the video,now i may think buying it as a souls fan
So it's still not as good as the estus system tho people hated demons souls dks2s and bloodbournes healing system and would prefer only 1 healing item
They changed it aswell so now the non-permanent "estus flasks" you pick up over your cap will go into storage like in bloodborne.
many years later, Elden Ring did the exact same thing as you explained. Nioh is phenomenal
I find it silly seeing people review Nioh after playing for not even a week. You could put 150 hours into this game and still be learning new game breaking mechanics.
or you can put 5 hours into it and see everything the gaem has to offer
ricard modo no you cant
What a ridiculous statement. No, you can't see and learn everything in Nioh in 5 hours. Just No....
@@Soydrinker999 Comeone he is just joking ha ha.
Starts having Skyrim flash backs
Love both. But NiOh got some SERIOUS combat innovation.
No it didnt lol
@Ronald Mexico it does it really does I bet you probably didn’t even play this game 🤦🏽♂️
@@krillan6692 Negro what? Let's get online my friend. Check. My stats. For Nioh, that is.
@Darrius King check who I @ I wasn’t talking to you
@@ronaldmexico1297 keep lying to yourself
It's interesting to note that the 3 stances are based on Japanese Kendo.
With the sword above your head, you are opening your defense for high attack power.
With the the sword down you are measuring distance between you and your enemy (Real life), hence your speed is higher.
With the sword in the middle you are in defense/default combat position.
Showing the enemy's stamina bar is a godly idea, IMO.
The Surge did it and it made my job a hell of a lot easier
Just realized IMO means in my opinion
Na. Makes game easy.
@@Dicekidesu OMG
@@pajeetsingh It's also fundamental for the gameplay. It's exactly like saying that in Sekiro showing the enemy posture makes the game easy 💀
Press R1 to recover stamina faster after attacking. Solves running out of the stamina generally.
I've been waiting for a From Software set in a non-European setting. I just thought it would be BY From Software. Japanese mythology is TERRIFYING, so this is perfect.
Now all we need is one based on Native American culture. Go north and you find Inuit cultures, killing off abandoned villages filled with wendigos. Go south and you'll find a giant bat for a boss in an Mayan temple full of mummies. I'm waiting, From Software.
It'd be kinda fucked up if from made that.
+Aza Smith AS cool as that would be might be a while. Miyazaki was planning on taking a break from the souls series to work on new IP's as he didn't want Dark Souls like games to become an annual thing like CoD.
+cookiebandit18
Lets face it: 1) Swords and Sorcery has been done to death, and 2) Native America has not.
+Aza Smith as long as we could make our characters look however we want and not be forced to make Native American characters, I'm for it. Muh Pyrus need his orange skin and red eyes/hair, damnit!
This is a great Idea
Can we now firmly say that Miyazaki created a whole sub-genre of games?
+Santy3071 Yeah, I think we can.
no
yep... let's just hope it doesn't die. Nioh with it's skill builds, and fantastic deep combat mechanics,
layers additional difficulty in complexity of combat not pure punishment which is definitely way forward.
Actually people give credits to Contra, Castlevania, Super Mario Bros., Metroid and Doom and so on and on and on....
Yeah... the Masochist Appreciation Gener in-which you DIE!! It's fun though.
the combat system of this game is pure gold. (excellent analysis btw man)
Only problem with it is its kinda hard to get into for new players but once I understood it, it made me wish Dark Souls had a similar combat depth.
yeah, after like overall 8 hours of playing the beta i ended up thinking "Gosh, am I digging this more than Miyazaki games, combat wise?" it's that good. the fact that's hard doesn't matter. just look at the Souls series. it worked.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer I'm pretty sure the combat is suppose to be hard for new players....just as the souls games were hard mostly for newcomers then after beating it, it's gets easier the more you play. Hardest part is usually the beginning stage.
Ninja Gaiden crossed with Dark Souls. This is my dream game!
+vincentninja68 Never tried Ninja Gaiden, seemed too 'twitchy' for my taste. Though I already know I'm gonna enjoy this game!
Just play the Xbox version of Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden 2 on the 360
Actually, you know what this game reminds me of? Onimusha.
Think about it, the game is reliant on being able to handle various enemies that follow the same rules you do. It punishes those who get greedy or plan improperly and rewards those who take their time and improve their skill. Hell, the combo system and otherwise can be related to the special attacks from the different weapons you got in Onimusha.
Still, for that alone, I want to check this out.
yes.
I love onimusha, wish they would make one for the ps4
oh shit... totally forgot about Onimusha!
another victim to Console Gaming... died in the console he was born in.
Lone Knight You DO realize that's the Ps2, which was considered by everyone to be the best console of it's time. (Hell it had THE best launch line up ever) The problem with the Onimusha series was just it didn't do so well when it tried to change things up with "Dawn Of Dreams"
Plus Capcom being Capcom back around that time (2006) they were in their "change everything" stage. So you can guess why we never seen much from the Onimusha series again.
Keeneye47/Wolfkeen I actually still loved Dawn of dreams, it's actually my favorite from the series but that's probably just me
Don't get it twisted, I liked it as well... But you could tell due to it not having the best of sales (according to Capcom, it under performed), Capcom decided to shelf the series.
Sad really.
so this is what geralt did after he quit the witcher career
Prince Ashitaka you must have found some secret ending please tell me how to unlock it
+Elvis Presley geralt and eredin buttfuck vesimir. then geralt thinks eredin is going to love him forever until he cuts off geralts penis. then leaves him for a water hag. eredin couldnt resist those saggy boobies.
Prince Ashitaka oh i forgot to cut off the penis, thanks
+Elvis Presley dont forget those saggy water hag boobies 😀
Prince Ashitaka ah yes who could ever forget those.. :)
For those watching this in 2020 the complaint he has about the Elixirs (estes flasks) is fixed to where excess goes to storage, and you're given a minimum of three at every shrine and possibly more depending on the number of Kodama you find throughout the region
The main character looks a lot like Geralt of Rivia.
+Peter Hanson his clothing even look similar to the cloth shirt and accessories that Geralt wears on the Hearts of Stone promotional image
1r0zz think someones jealous that the Witcher will most likely be the highest rated game for the next couples decades, and whatever game they decide to fanboy over will never compare to it. but yea, youre right, Witcher 3 doesnt have good gameplay, not like it won hundreds of awards for its gameplay or anything
+Professor X no one's jealous kid...
+Professor X you're obviously the one fanboying here dude
+Professor X Can you get off the internet until you turn 18 in 22 years?
I really like the sound of no I-frames. When I first learned about dark souls and started playing it, it seemed so hard because naturally you wouldn't think you could just phase through an attack. Well when I found out, I realized that the game was definitely nowhere near as hard as people were saying.
This changes things up. Also the combat looks fantastic and the setting is awesome. 1v1 samurai fights will never get old.
Moron detected.
Doctopus ***** I don't get it. You think in reality you can just roll in the direction of a demon's mighty hulking fist and you will be left unscathed?
there is no pvp just co-op
+Mike M you think in reality there's demons with might hulking fists in the first place it's a fantasy game they have to have I-frames or some boss fights would LITERALLY be impossible to beat just because of there sheer size of course it's going to make it less difficult but what your not accounting for is the enemies follow up attacks that can catch you right out of roll and them following it up afterwards with a big combo and getting perfect timing on rolls can be very difficult depending on the situation this its still difficult a lot of the enemies attacks are delayed specifically so it can catch you out of a roll dark souls is still pretty difficult
The Jake eh I know what you're saying but Dark Souls really isn't difficult once you realize there's I frames. Also, 3 gives way too many rolls and s. I was never damaged in a roll. 2 was okay but bad hit boxes made some bosses wierd to deal with like Sinner. 1 was the best with rolling. Costed a lot, had to be timed right, and you couldn't just roll INTO attacks, because you would get damaged. You had to roll through them, left or right. It only had 4 roll directions though.
The elixir system has been fixed in the final game, in case that mechanic turned anyone off...
how so? just wondering. Do you reccommend this game?
layton115 Example: You can hold a maximum of 8 Elixirs (restores HP) so if you pick up a 9th elixir, you'll be asked if you want to send the 9th one to your storage chest. If you have 4 elixirs and 10 elixirs in storage, it will automatically take 4 from storage so you have the maximum 8 again. of course, you must return to a shrine (like bonfire in DS/ checkpoint) to reload the used items.
layton115 And yes, I definitely recommend this game, especially if you're a fan or Dark Souls and/or rpgs in general.
Nick Howe thanks for clarifying, im not a fan of this system/the one used in Bloodborne but overall this game looks great
This is why we can't have nice things. Everything doesn't have to be a competition. I like both, I'll enjoy both.
competition is actually a good thing
Thank you!
Competition as in "which one is better"
You can't have nice things because you click on a video called ''Nioh Vs Dark Souls'' even though you don't want people to compare them
@@hubblebublumbubwub5215 he probably is talking about fanboys biting each others asses on the comment.. Mature, well thought-out unbiased comparisons are welcome
Nioh is off to a great start. I definitely root for that game, but the Souls games are already legendary, unfair comparison in my opinion.
Did you watch the video? Because it's not a comparison, it's drawing contra-standards to an absent yet associated title within the same medium. It's a way to start talking points without having to jump into and explain every detail because others have set the foundation before it.
Also, there's nothing wrong with comparing likes. We don't live in a vacuum where other games were never created to compare to one another. You have to look at a body of work to get a sense of what's truly good and poor.
+TerraMantis I was watching it as I was typing that. But still, the similarities are minimum to be honest, as other have pointed out. Nioh has more in common with other titles from Team Ninja and it shares just some mechanics with Dark Souls
It's not "just some mechanics" that Nioh shares with Dark Souls. And it's definitely not "minimum" similarities.
Shrines in Nioh act exactly like bonfires as checkpoints to rest and choose your Ninjustu and Magic loadout just like Sorceries and Miracles loadouts. Stats are almost identical to literally every Soulsborne game. Roughly 90% of the items in Nioh have literally the exact same effect as every consumable from Souls, but the names are different. Co-op works almost the exact same with phantoms. Death mechanics of retrieving your gravestone so you don't lose amrita (souls) from where you died last is the same as bloodstains. Amrita, like souls, is used as currency to level up just like Soulsborne. The armor weight system effects roll and dodging speed just like Souls. The elixir system is identical to blood vials from Bloodborne. Weapon stances of Nioh hold the same principle as weapon transformations of Bloodborne. The list goes on.
I'm not saying Nioh isn't doing something very differently or putting its own spin on very similar concepts from Soulsborne - enough to such a degree that it's justifying itself to stand apart from Souls - but to say its similarities are minimal to Souls is ridiculous. The developers themselves compared it to Souls.
M&B vs DSouls
Saint Link
This game is not a Dark Souls clone. It's a Ninja Gaiden clone.
Gameplay of Ninja Gaiden with the concepts and ideas of Dark Souls.
Not ninja gaiden! Ninja gaiden is best best best best !the one Ni -oh Arpg game !ninja is more skillful game
What ideas and concepts of Dark Souls?
Dawill44 Combos and the stamina system mainly.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer I'd argue that the combos are closer to NG than DS.
dark souls + Geralt = Nioh
+deFyne nope xD
Japanese geralt in dark souls
+Gregory of Astora *Shameless self-advertising*
+MJBWaddap Japanese reincarnations of Yennifer and Trish I would kill to see Yennifer in a kimono 😏
The gameplay pace and style also inspired from Ninja Gaiden.
This game is going to be an absolute beast and start of a franchise that will live harmoniously with the Souls series and community. It has already been embraced. Every player I encountered in the demo was from Souls anyway. What I played was borderline masterpiece. I am so hyped for this game it ain't even funny.
Also, your preview is excellent, as usual.
MercilessV Wins the damn thread!!
That looks fucking metal as FUCK dude.
"A visceral attack, like a riposte in dark souls"
Or, yknow, a visceral attack in bloodborne
All of the gripes in this video has been rectified in the latest beta, so they'll sure be fixed in the release. The stamina regain etc are explained in the tutorial. Consumable items now go to storage as surplus. PVP is coming after launch as a free DLC, proper friend co-op with password is also included in the latest beta and also there is another form of co-op included. Team ninja has listened to most all player feedback and have added all and beyond to the game.
im still at a loss as to how onimusha has never had a revival for next gen it was one of my favourite ps2 games ever
My main problem with Nioh is that a samurai themed Dark Souls game was not what I wanted. I had been following this game ever since that first teaser trailer came out when the PS3 was announced and was excited since but when I played the alpha demo, I was hoping for something different than Dark Souls. Don't get me wrong, I love the series, but I was just hoping for something different and the fact that this game is trying to be similar is disappointing to me.
Tasuke it's a lot different. A lot better imo
I never had a problem with the Elixers and farming. Most of the enemies in the second stage drop at least 1 Elixer after death, plus you always get 3 elixer's from the shrine by default. Also, I'm pretty sure you can increase your Elixer restoration capacity by leveling up a certain stat (I forget which one it was, but I remember always starting with 4 after leveling up a bit instead of 3)
This is a great video, you're a pretty rad RUclipsr TerraMantis
Thank you very much for this video. At first Nioh sounded really interesting for me but without s and a "blood vial storage" I won't be happy with the game, no matter how great the other aspects are. I got in love with my dodge system in DS3 - maybe I'm too unfair to want it in other games too but I'm just too addicted. Again thank you very much - your video was 100% what I was searching for since all the other reviews didn't answer my questions
No problem. I'm glad you found something you're looking for. That said, the Alpha this video was based on and a Beta have both passed since this video was made and Team Ninja implemented a lot of feedback based off videos like this. A lot has changed since this video was made nearly a year ago now.
There's a storage system which was showcased in the Beta and there are i-frames, but the i-frames are not as forgiving as Souls. I'm not telling you to go out and buy the game, just wait for people to talk about the final release before you jump to any conclusions. Feedback and development has altered the game a lot since the Alpha. I have other videos about the progression of the game as the year went on and I played it.
TerraMantis wow thank you very much. I'm going to watch your other videos. You are great :-D there should be more people who answer the questions like you
these systems have been fixed to a fair extent like the blood vial storage has been fixed pretty well
A game that actually requires skill, and we can see all the pussy noobs run away screaming like chickens with their heads cut off, how funny.
They fixed it, Not It's not just like a Blood vials its actually like Estus flasks now. No need for farming!! if you do pick up health vials its now a bonus
The revenant system is something I've been wanting in the Souls games for a very long time now; what better way to keep 'online' play alive long after a game's life cycle than to immortalize real builds as npc summons/invaders? This almost makes up for the other lackluster elements of online play you mentioned.
On another note, I was initially quite disappointed to learn that this game resembled Onimusha less than some had suggested, but it's looking like it may be quite a wonderful game after all, and one that I'll have an easier time getting one of my close friends to try out(I think he might even enjoy it more than I will), especially once they fix up the summoning system ;) I've had my fair share of solo play interspersed with random encounters over the last 5 years, and I'm ready for a soulslike in which co-op can be arranged directly for a change.
it's official. the dark souls games have created a new genre of difficult action rpg. wonderful.
+StyleshStorm Yess I can continue to feed my addiction
+Iron-Yogi It is not an addiction, I can stop when I want to."What about" HEY, I SAID WHEN I WANT TO *grinds teeth*
+Iron-Yogi lol, as an addict myself, at least with dark souls 3, i can relate. but i wish there were more games like dragon's dogma: dark arisen that gets copied too, enjoyed that one more still. 159+ hours dark souls 3 and 599+ hours dragon's dogma: dark arisen.
@@StyleshStorm whats so good about Dragons Dogma?
@@wallacesousuke1433 Yeah i never understood the whole feel with the game. Like bruh enemies quickly become punching bags, and a fucking tank sometimes. Why does a goblin requires a fire spell, two arrows to the face, and fuckton of slashes to die
Btw, i don't agree with your opinion to change the elixir. Like the souls series, depending how good you are at the game, you COULD technically run through it without being hit a single time. I mean, the guy in your vid was wearing no armour and didn't get hit once by the boss. Instead of seeing it as JUST an action RPG, I think the developers were going for a more gritty and dark SURVIVAL action RPG, which is why it'll be up to YOU, the player, to 'farm' for items. (I think they just intended for you to pick them up on the way) Well, it's just my opinion. It is it's own game after all.
Yes dude! Fucking eh man. That's an amazing idea. Git Gud or farm like a peasant.
"Fucking eh man. That's an amazing idea. Git Gud or farm like a peasant."
No, that's a shit idea. A game having challenge and teaching you to get better is good. A game punishing you and wasting your time is not good, and doesn't help the player improve. It's bad design and they were right to change it.
Mister Guy then you suck and probably shouldn't be playing this game
By that logic all the souls games and bloodborne are shit game design not just piss poor story telling.
Yes, but to be fair. Vials in bloodborne are only a problem for a time, later on you'll always have much more than you can carry.
The customization is a bit overwhelming in nioh
@ nioh is haram
Gameplay wise, yeah, NiOH destroys Dark Souls
What about Onimusha similarities? It looks a lot like that series.
+Nick Fedorov
not at all...
you know kids, your videogame ignorance hurts...
onimusha is a completely different beast, that you are abusing to somehow hide the two great game inspiring this: Demon Souls and Ninja Gaiden...
*****
saying that "something looks like something" it's not a fucking opinion. it's a statement.
so guess what. he is wrong, and you are wrong.
+clubg100 yeah and some opinions are based on less facts than others. Not every opinion is equally valuable. Just saying "its my opinion" doesn't absolve you from other people calling you out on your factual errors.
1r0zz
c'mon, it's a game about oriental-looking guy killing other oriental-looking guys and oriental-looking demons. There are has to be some similarities.
Nick Fedorov
first the main character is William Adams (or Miura Anjin) a real historical "western Samurai"...
second in onimusha you fight fictional demons from a fictional war aganist Oni.
in this the demons are all real world japanese folklore.
you are actually being RACIST. because you are taking elements from something and just flocking them all together with strong prejudice.
I can't help but kind of respect the way in which companies have been capitalizing off the idea of the Souls formula. Don't get me wrong, I'm usually not the type to respect developers who jump on bandwagon movements, but considering the Souls series has seen 3 sequels(including Bloodborne) since 2014 - and the series will probably be on hiatus for a while, we need some healthy competition. Beyond that, I like how they've been focused on creating different aesthetics and environments, since that's always important to the overall feel of a Souls game. I know many people were disappointed with Lords of the Fallen, but I think Nioh will probably give us enough variety and differentiation to make itself something great.
+The Angry Little Alchemist
Also, I REALLY wish I played games like Ninja Gaiden. I've played Monster Hunter 4 and that's freakin' amazing, but a lot of action games like Devil May Cry or Ninja Gaiden, no.
Souls borne has had 5 games and 2 releases on dks1 and 2
this game also had a lot of tenchu vibes for me with certain item weapons
+Black Metal Gamer why is no one saying onimusha ??????
+phar0ahad3 cause to me it feels more ninja gaiden meets tenchu with souls elements . onimusha felt more hack slash capcom typical style of the likes of devil may cry
Black Metal Gamer oh ok i heard this was a reskin of onimusha
+phar0ahad3 No not at all its brutally hard souls style gameplay but mechanics and controls of ninja gaiden but has certain items and area design very close to tenchu
Black Metal Gamer ok
This looks awesome! Great work on the video. Very informative. Pumped to see more of Nioh as development continues!
I'm a huge fan of Koei Tecmo, so I was excited to give this game a try. I've been waiting since it's original announcement back with the PS3. However, I did not get a chance to really play the Alpha demo. The Beta demo has updated a couple of my initial concerns and I actually found it slightly easier. We'll see what the full release has going for it, but I'm so hyped.
Hmm... The alpha gameplay reminded me more of Onimusha and Ninja Gaiden than it did a souls game. Souls is definitely sprinkled in there, but I'd say this is more of a spiritual successor to Onimusha than anything else. Whatever Nioh may be, it's definitely a breath of fresh air.
I like Nioh because it's Dark Souls enough for me to like it and it's different enough to feel fresh unlike DS3 that for me was just all previous games combined and constant feeling of deja vu. I really hope they will not make Nioh easier in final version, or at least made easy mode only an option.
Ole Gerko still better then 90% of all games so no problem if its not much different better as fucking far cry 15 or assassins creed 20
Ole Gerko should I get dark souls 3 or nioh ? I already played bloodborne.
Knowledge get both play one when your not feelin the other that’s what I do lol I have nioh, ds3, and bloodborne and I just play whichever one I’m not stuck on at the moment. Until you get stuck on a boss on all of them at the same time
Pretty good video, but again familiarity with souls is causing him to gloss over important points based on presumed similarities. Not a unique issue though since I've seen a lot of people making the same mistakes.
Just in the discussion of stances alone he's already undersold half the function and use of each stance, such as low stance having inifnite regular attacks in it's default combo as well as delivering OTG hits to fallen enemies consistently, high stance always driving down the enemy center line; but leaving your vulnerable to low stance dodge-strafing specifically or the variable amounts of stagger each stance can take or inflict. The kick can be mapped to any stance, not just mid as said in the video, like the stun aura. I am glad he actually saw video demonstrating the living weapon infinite combos I've talked about, though he doesn't seem to get how they work, or at least to explain it. Taking into account that factor, the player actually constantly has the advantage over each enemy in terms of abilities and options, seeing an enemy that can ki pulse would be interesting to see, or better yet perhaps a humanoid boss also able to deploy a guardian spirit as their living weapon.
He's also completely wrong about stanima yet again, though it's the number 1 inaccuracy of the press and most LPers. I watched tbfp play and was infuriated that they ran out of ki TWICE without triggering the animation, yet the first time it happened they attributed it to running out of ki. This is something people coming from souls are consistently overlooking, depleting your ki incurs no penalty, and in fact the last move to reduce your ki to 0 has however much more than 0 would have been spent included as free. Then attempting to spend ki WHILE ALREADY at 0, the animation is triggered. A reserved player who feels out the number of hits they can land in each stance will never trigger the animation even once. So I actually love this element and consider it the core of Nioh's combat, baiting foes into over-exerting themselves so that you can hammer down their ki with regular attacks or combos, then exploit their vulnerability. The fact that different enemies tire at different rates, have different stats and that you're required to observe and react to these on an individual basis makes every enemy far more engaging. He also doesn't discuss how yokai work by a different ki system, where instead of opening up to grapples, they instead suffer increased stun damage, allowing a player who's savvy at ki pulsing or pops living weapon and doesn't relent to finish them off the second their ki flashes red. It's a small thing, but it makes enemies much larger than you feel a lot more thrilling to fight and rewards you for not conceding too much ground or backing off.
Storage definitely does need to be implemented and weapon disassembly needs to be made more obvious since the familiarity system is going to stump a lot of people otherwise, and I'd prefer to have some fusion mechanic to allow me to level a weapon to equal that of a stronger one I obtain if I just prefer that weaker weapon. I would however not prefer a straight up estus system but some level of compromise between estus and bloodborne, allowing weaker players to farm higher amounts like bloodborne and store them would be great, with a base amount that can be increased over time for dark souls purists. Or perhaps more along the DS2 method of having a non-replenished grindable item for struggling players, while letting more confident players stick to elixirs. Item switching could also use some work, I'd rather have two of the buttons scroll through a list and the other use the highlighted item rather than only have 3 available, I frequently wanted to have my onmyo talisman, my caltrops and my healing item equipped but then also have the firebombs .etc available as well. And while the game drops ample whetstones and glue, I'd much rather just have lower durability on items but replenish it at shrines if they're unbroken. Totes agree on PVP arenas .etc, but I could do without going too soulsy with covenants and the like either. Overall though I largely agree and look forward to seeing changes made in a subsequent alpha or beta. Considering how much TecmoKoei took on feedback from toukiden's early feedback, I expect a lot to be added or changed over time given their record.
Longest comment I ever read.
+Cantabile write a TL;DR ffs
+Cantabile Wow. You must have put a lot of thought into this comment. Thanks for expanding on the topic and helping me understand more what Nioh is.
+Cantabile Selling normal gear gifted me a large amount of extra elixirs, allowing one to face a boss with a filled inventory, selling of gear as you make attempts to net more elixirs. It's not ideal, but it's something. I'm pretty sure we haven't seen the final iteration of the system though.
washaa Yeah and I made use of that too, but it's still random what you get in rewards, even if elixirs are the most common; once you hit 10 elixirs, you just can't pick up any extras, period meaning I tried to roll with no more than 9 at any given time. A storage box is an absolute must for the final game.
Nioh was so awesome these last couple of days. I learned a bunch and could tell this is going to be a great ps4 title. I hope they do iron out some of the healing item limits, but being a Ninja Gaiden fan I am so used to fighting bosses with limited supplies. great video!
I like the fact that u neither bashed the game for the sectors it did bad on or sugar coat the ones it did good on...I didn't know about the game until I saw your video..this game surely has great potential and a unique style(not gameplay) but as u said it's on alpha so i keep my safe distance ...it sure is on my radar now...great video man keep it up :)
Not sure if your old enough to remember Onimusha, but any similarity & I will definitely purchase this, any type of response will be appreciated.
I'm probably older than you. Yes, Nioh has characteristics that will remind any Onimusha fan of that franchise.
TerraMantis stop haiting on the fact that they stole from dark souls
Jammyfish onimusha dawn of dreams and 3 were my games
TheNinjatsu Onimusha is a resident evil camera using give him a sword instead of a gun put demons instead of zombies let's change the whole story game nothing about Onimusha is original Devil may cry uses the same camera views but it's a good game action Packed and fun fuck Onimusha the only game team ninja had that was good was ninja geidan everything else was a copy of a copy flat out
TheNinjatsu and DOA which I love that game
Now I got two reasons to get a PS4, the other obviously being Bloodborne. I think it's gonna be totally worth it.
There's also LET IT DIE. An action game that's free, has its own feel, combat that has a lot of depth, and is free, without p2w bullshit.
To those who cry about the game being an exclusive:
Do you even understand how competition between consoles works? You buy the console that has the most exclusives that appeal to you. It has always been like this.
+Animaru Kaonashi Well, tough luck. It's business m8.
+Igeljäger But, does it need to be like this? I mean, what do you gain, as a customer, from exclusives? I mean, I know that companies do get a lot of money from this, but they also spend a lot on platform exclusivity.
+Animaru Kaonashi
To be fair though, if you were at all interested in Japanese titles, you wouldn't have bought an Xbox over a Playstation.
Culturally Enriched Knight of Distributive Justice
It instills a feeling of loyalty and a sort of "console nationalism" in their customer base. It makes them feel special because they can play a game that other consoles and the PC can't play normally without buying a PS4 themselves.
+Jewbear1884
Let's not try and act like it's just consoles. It's just as potent on PC, you just see it less often as high-budget PC exclusives are much rarer. Given the opportunity, they're just as bad as the console users.
Star Citizen has been their poster child for the past couple years.
that clap parry is the coolest thing I've seen all day!
wait what.. Team ninja is working on that? A samurai themed game which is souls-inspired AND ninjagaiden-inspired? That has to be the best thing humanity has ever created, i'm sold. Forget penicilin, this is an invention on another level.
This is what Dark souls 3+ should have been. They turned it into COD and stopped innovating. This game can really steal the souls fans away.
+ExuberantOne Yeah I hated that one Dark Souls 3 area where you pick up an RPG and had to shoot down an AC 130
+Flare Underscore Same.But the part where you have to 360 neigh scoop the yak off the cliff really takes the cake for me.
+Flare Underscore I love calling in an attack chopper on ganked tho
can't tell if i should say git gud or stfu troll
ExuberantOne is the kind of guy who needs 3 summons for Vordt.
Honestly, this game looks amazing. As a huge Souls fan, I really like the similarities. I can't wait to buy Nioh :D
This is going to be a buy for me, definitely.
For those on the fence, they patched the elixir system so It's same as DS now, excess elixir is sent to your stash.
Glad they listened to the criticism and changed the elixier mechanics.
wow u talked about Nioh and didnt even mention Onimusha... thats sad meng
+Captain Hitsu
it does not have anything from onimusha, go play that series...
+1r0zz *anything* you say?
You totally don't battle demons as a badass samurai in it or anything.
WeLiVeR
no you do not fight demons. you fight Genmas, that are as far as I know a fictional race not based on folklore.
genmas created by Fortinbrans...
in this you fight creature HEAVILY based on real life japanese folklore.
being a samurai and fighting demons is not really enough to say this copies onimusha...
it doesn't, and any way you say onimusha related to this is an insult to both onimusha and this game...
You misunderstand. 'similar to' and 'copies' have completely different meanings.
onimusha.wikia.com/wiki/Genma btw.
WeLiVeR
I already explained you what the hell Genmas are...
also, "similar" is not the case here. as Onimusha has fixed camera and a linear action gameplay...
unless you really want to go the racist route to have "all samurais are all the same"...
pushing all this Onimusha nonsense you hurt this game. why? why nag at this game by making up insults? I do not get you people.
Why did you not address the weapon degradation? It was absolutely atrocious and when combined with the awful menus made for a very frustrating experience. It's not like the wet stones are a dime a dozen. That being said, I liked the alpha overall and hope they address these issues so I can enjoy the final product.
the first boss room had two to three of each every run and they were absolutely littered about that I couldn't get rid of them all throw away ten just to find ten more four guys later.
+Tim Macone (infinitybelt) Team Ninja released their results with the Nioh feedback survey. They will remove the durability for armor and weapons!
Pop Car great!
durability is a good thing indeed. feeling that you cant always fight with your favorite weapon caus it wont be usable when you really need it is kind of cool i think. also having to be careful of what kind of ennemy or attack you deal with caus they might destroy your equipment if they spit acid on it is quite of an additionnal challenge. something that is not really in DS3, my weapons never broke more than half before i reach the next bonfire... of course if your katana really breaks after only 10 ennemies its way too fast
thank fucking god
It's not like Demon's Souls. It's Onimusha mixed with Reboot Ninja Gaiden.
You misunderstood the healing items. It's like an old game. It doesn't have to be like Souls.
That's exactly what I said! It's feels just like the old onimusha games but revamped. They even share the same characters and extremely lite story similarities (Nobunaga using demons to achieve his goals)
The best thing about this video is the thumbnail. It's so fitting. Noir is like, "I'm a new game and so hard to beat." looking all grouchy and stern. While dark souls is all like, "I'm dark souls. The fuck do you expect?" with it's so nonchalant expression.
Well Terra, it looks like you got all of your wishes. I've finished every bit of content in the beta and they've done everything right this time around, I could play with my friends on any level as we saw fit, the way you can jump into random games is also great and every complaint you had here was the same as mine during the alpha and it's all been looked at and fixed accordingly, I hope other dark souls fans can enjoy this game to the extent that I finally have, I want it to go far and have a community much like souls. I can't wait for release.
+DoggieToys It still is. Why would you expect otherwise.
Onimusha + Dark Souls = Nioh
Nostalgia just hit me with Onimusha theme in this game
+TheDaniel5612 Finally somebody else got an Onimusha vibe from this game. I see the ninja gaiden influence, but ninja gaiden is considerably faster. This game felt more like Onimusha in pacing.
+edub2689 I agree.
exclusive titles are cancer.
+JerechoNC No... no they're not.
Thugga The Goat The games arent cancer, the exclusivity is. im sure Nioh will be great but fuck buying a ps4 or xbone for 2 or 3 games exclusively on it.
Ill stick with my dual boot linux/windows setup for maximum open-sourceness.
+JerechoNC I wish their was a reliable way to make everyone boycott exclusives. It would take less than a month to never see exclusives ever again
+NightBringer people could boycott them.. but I bet people will still try to be dicks and find a way to keep the cancerous console wars going some how. fuck the exclusives.. its the community of asshole gamers who are cancerous.
+FoeDayZz So, are you saying we must boycott good games because somebody cannot play them?
Having to farm for items that repair weapons sucks. Made me quit the demo.
bicboi555 the weapons don't have weapon degradation. At all. They don't break
For those wondering, the elixirs do go into surplus once you're at max in the final version.
Love the in-depth analysis, given that when i played the... beta i believe, there was a feature to increase the number of "estus" you have, and you start by regaining 3 i believe. So they may be listening! :D plus i think the second boss was a different one, unless i missed a boss D:
Nioh had some better combat elements than FromSoft games.
Nioh 2 on the other hand makes FromSoft games look like 90s releases.
Lmao nice joke. Nioh's combat is the only thing it has going for it. Literally EVERYTHING else is undeniably subpar in comparison to Souls. And Fromsoft unlike Team Ninja, actually knows how to balance their games properly.
I wouldn't go that far, some armored core games has more deeper combat and deeper mechanics than nioh series
@@hare75 Fromsoft games I mean souls type games. By that logic we might as well compare any game to any game of the industry jn general. Armored core is an entirely different genre all together.
I do think tecmo/koei is making a mistake in not releasing this game in multiplatform/pc i absolutely loved the alpha, while being punishing ( even more than dark souls ) you learn so much every time you die while the combat system is phenomenal and deep, This game definitely deserves to be played by everyone and from what i know they dont seem to have made a deal with sony on this one, it seems they are willing to skip making money on this game..
You are stupid as hell
Taylor Sparks care to elaborate?
Why do you think this game is exclusive? Because they made a deal with Sony. Tecmo have no control of what system they can put it on, only Sony has that right. And actually you can make much more money by focusing the game on one console, look at the last of us, uncharted 4, halo, bloodborne, Etc. And one thing is for sure, it's to sell consoles.
+Taylor Sparks Those games you just mentioned are all first party, really bad examples. it's really not the same but sure if they striked a deal like Nintendo did with Bayonetta 2 or what Sony did with Bloodborne It would be obvious. But if Koei-Tecmo are just releasing this only ps4 for the sake of it i do think they are making a bad decision.
franky Bloodborne is not a first party exclusive mind you. And again fool, Koei Tecmo have no control over the exclusivity. You wanna complain, go complain to Sony, but it's a 0% chance.
I don't like that weapons don't recover durability upon death. If they fix that I'll be playing that all the time.
+Dan Watson Agreed.
A few things that have changed based on the Last Chance Demo.
1. There is password matching now akin to DS3 and BB. It is the Secret Word system.
2. Rumor has it that they are planning an arena for PvP but I haven't heard if that'll be at release or down the road.
3. Elixers are now stored in a storage house of sorts and hold a limited number of a certain item to actually discourage farming for elixers and the like.
4. I have been playing Souls since Demons Souls and I found myself hopping right into the combat in a survivable manner within about 3 or 4 deaths. The game is brutally punishing but you tune in on it pretty quickly. I really struggled with the first boss of the LCB but after I beat her the first time I rarely died again until I tried it on Twilight Mission mode with a friend. Twice we got pseudo-cheated out of victory as we felt before the beta went down at 2AM Monday morning.
OMG this combo you discuss is exactly the mixtures I've been waiting for!
So pumped for Nioh!
Theres nothing wrong with the elixer aspect imo. You just didn't know how to aquire elixers during early game (there wasn't a tutorial for it so I'm not surprised). There are invinsible frames btw. It happens when you evade. And I'm pissed af that you were able to find a seperate boss :/. I finished the alpha 100% but never saw that dog/beast. Only a female "vampire".
This was for the Alpha. A lot has changes since nearly the year ago that this was made. Also, that's why you never saw the boss, the Pre-Alpha, Alpha and Beta all had different stuff showcased.
Yeah mb man. I forgot I played the Beta lol. I was tired af and confused alpha with beta. RIP me lmao
Don't suppose you have a list of changes available since this video was made? Im still on the fence, and I share some of the same gripes you did.
There's a couple uploads of one of the developers playing the game and other trash people. If you've seen or played the beta, you can find the vid (it's an hour long) and see what they did. So far ik they added that flail & sythe/sickle weapon, should new bosses, and..... that's it from what I remember. OH! They have secret paths like in Lords Of The Fallen (breakable walls).
Alex there's several videos on this channel that follow the progression and changes of the game over the course of the past 10 months across the Alpha, Beta and some closed-doors time I had with the game and the lead developers. If you'd like to watch those just go to this channel's homepage and the videos are under the "Nioh" section. I will say though that basically every issue or problem I stated with Nioh in this video has been addressed. Not only that but each time Team Ninja has released a trial of the game they contacted myself and others like me for feedback. Again, nearly every criticism I've had each time has been addressed with changes to the game. They're doing a fantastic job absorbing and implementing feedback.
Additionally, literally just today, Team Ninja just announced a final Beta for 48 hours starting on the 20th of January. So you can test the game out and the changes for yourself if you have a PS4. Last but not least, they also announced a free PvP patch that will be added on to the game after launch. Alright, hope that helps.
But is there character creation?
+PunisherOfCasuls
No. You play as William Adams, the first Englishman to visit Japan, and first Westerner to become a Samurai, in the year 1600.
In the alpha? No
RAICK Nor will there be character creation in the finished game.
Well, you have four options for his head and beard each.
way of samurai + tenchu + onimusha = NIOH
+TerraMantis From what you said about the healing items, i've had no problem with nioh's mechanics or bloodborne. That being said when i first played nioh i thought the same way and thought it should be more like the estus flask until i gave it some more thought the game thrives on being near perfect and through the demo i've became more better at the game and i wasnt losing as much healing items as i was when i first started. Same with bloodborne I was constantly running out of blood vials because i tried to dish out as much damage as possible without giving my stamina any consideration, I don't think the blood vial mechanics in bloodborne were that bad, same with the elixirs in nioh the only problem i've had was not being able to keep a certain amount of surplus which didn't bother me as much as it used to since i've played enough to get most of the mechanics down and learn the enemy's pattern.
+Kaidez I feel the same way. I thought that the healing mechanic was a huge problem because of my struggles with the second boss until I learned that he could run out of stamina and you could just go to town on him. I hope they don't change anything besides weapon degradation.
Stoneheart
jesus christ the weapon degradation it was tough trying to find whetstones just so you can repair that shit you call a sword
also ayyyy yuru yuri.
really great in-depth analysis. I'm really happy to see more souls-like games being made. I have no idea if Nioh started out with mechanics more similar to ninja gaiden or if it was souls-like before demon's souls even came out but i'm really looking forward to this game
Played both and both are great. Nioh is faster paced and extremely long if you do all missions.
ya but nioh is better dark souls falls flat on its stupid face when reaching sens fortress. nioh's only problem was the repetitive design
@@murtazarizvi368 Yesterday did Crystal Cave, worst level so far.
@@maltespielt5566 i kinda gave up on dark souls all together. might try 3 or bloodborne if it ever came on pc. nioh was great but got too much repetitive visually n bloated
It's the samurai version of Geralt of Rivia. So cool!
+DavId Hornby im not sure if the character is supposta be Japanese tho his name is william if i recall correctly
this is like comparing dark souls to lords of the Fallen. you're missing the point entirely. dark souls is one of the best games ever created because it's a modern day Zelda, it's so fully realized in terms of its vision, tone, world and mechanics. every enemy intricately placed, freedom to go any where yet difficultly spikes tell you you're not ready for that area yet, etc. the game is hard but fair. not hard for the sake of it/to be edgy.
Joel Santiago Completely agreed
it is really good and so original too they made the dark world and fucking bonfires that everyone will remember forever ripping off can never be as good as this ds art
With regards to the healing items issue; i too hate farming but i took the alternate route of learning how to take down the bosses with just the standard 3 elixers. Definitely difficult, but perhaps less frustrating overall (and more satisfying!)
About the elixirs in Niho: I had my elixirs be put in the storehouse once I reached the maximum amount, so it now works properly like in Bloodborne.
The nioh guy is just Geralt of rivia
he is called William and is from irland
no one will ever be able to surpass dark souls in my opinion. that doesnt mean that the games wont be good but people will most likely go back to dark souls
Raging Soul
Yep ... After a year has passed, I keep finding myself coming back to the souls series even though I've seen EVERYTHING it can give. I keep expecting it to get boring and repetitive which it does after binging it for a month but that's why I give it a month of playing other new games until I eventually come crawling back to it like always
For me it's the opposite. The combat in Nioh just feels so good... that being said, DS has a way better soundtrack and graphics that don't make everyone look like plastic-faced anime characters.
very high replay value in dark souls wich means the game is that good
I gave Dark Souls a try and I just couldn't like it but Nioh? I loved it from the moment I started playing. Everything is so much better.
@murnavid DS series was boring for me. Nioh has a proper story and better gameplay.
@murnavid yeah that's fine if you don't like it, I respect your opinion. I feel the same for Dark Souls, I don't get why people love it so much, I tried to like it but I couldn't play it at all.
@murnavid damn, I didn't play Sekiro yet, gonna have to try that. Darksiders 3 was okay, kinda fun, love the series.
@murnavid I'm up for that, I'll play Sekiro then, most importantly it has a story and characters unlike Dark Souls.
If you still don't like Nioh after another try then try Nioh 2 that might be better, I didn't play it yet.
@murnavid Yeah then don't play it, there are better games to try anyway.
i love how dark souls announces its the end of the series and then here come a bunch of games trying to take the titlebelt
Altred Validiction I hope that FromSoftware makes similar games to the soulborne series
fantastic video man. good job. you put a lot of work into this. keep on truckin
The Elixir complaint is unwarranted. I'm sorry but it screams git gudish. You could try not spending hours grinding for Elixirs and spend it focusing on the boss and gameplay mechanics along with the enemy layouts. After I platinum'd all of the Souls games and Bloodborne and after I beat all of the Alpha and Beta content I'd just say it goes hand in hand with the game's difficulty. I beat the first boss at level five and the second at 16 in the Beta. The third at 20 all severely under leveled. Totally cool with it keeping its healing item system from the Alpha.
He was just saying how it should refill when you rest which they actually did end up changing for the beta.
Ze-TopHat-Gamer Yeah but it refills you to three... He kept using the number 10 I thought the second Alpha boss was easy as shit but that second and third beta boss. Fuck.
Makhi Makharadze And yeah Bloodborne too, what's the ultimate Blood vials cap? Like, 29? I love Bloodborne though, because if you suck at it so bad I like the idea that you can't get blood vials at lamps. If you want to go without healing items, git gud. If you want them you have to farm the fuck out of them. I just like the idea of people rage quitting in Bloodborne because they're so bad they have to use blood vials as soon as they get them. Especially when you look at like the Trophy percentages, so many people rage quit that game.
If Nioh didn't refill I'd be okay with it. Unfortunately, we live in a world where this game has to make money. I just hope it crushes Souls fans. The only ones I found of any challenge were parts of Bloodborne and DS1.
Lack of character creation kinda sucks if you don't like the default guy
+deFyne games are flawless in your eyes aren't they
All the dude said is that he wished there was customization.
Agreed with everything you said.
FOR ALL WHO WILL PLAY THIS GAME (since alpha is over by now)... in options menu there is a game mode setting. Movie mode is preselected so make sure to change it to action mode for pure and stable framerate. Makes the game soooooo much better.
I hope you play and review the second demo of Nioh!
This makes me want a new tenchu game.
agreed i miss a stealth ninja style i got bored of a stealth assassin
+Pat Bone
I loved Tenchu when I was a kid. I played the shit out of 1, 2 and Wrath of Heaven. I never played Z but I heard mixed things.
Doesn't From Software own that IP now?
+TerraMantis yap and Z was poo so I hope they bring it back but try a bit harder
After i'm done with dks3 i'll give this a try
Too late, Alpha ended months ago...
Not talking about the alpha but the game when releases
That's about a year away.
+Ryan Weiss You must be fun at parties.
Pretty sure it's releasing this year.
I love souls games not only for combat, I think that the most enjoyable part of game that makes me stay in there for long-long time is multiplayer and alas this game will lack one. Also I really like to customize my character, "create" some kind of backstory for them, to be able to choose their sex, clothing and way they behave, however it seems that Nioh will have already preset character for everyone as well as written backstory and plot interaction. I think many players will feel in the same way and some developers forget when they claim their game to be "soulslike" that not combat system and being "hard and punishing" makes souls game to be a souls game.
I never said anything about copying, I'm just saying that inspiration lies not only in combat and the game being punishing. Ninja Gaiden was hard and punishing with in-depths combat system - but was it "soulslike"? I doubt so. It just gives me impression when developers are giving statements like that, they, in fact, just want to get additional audience from souls games fans.
well, the time will show.
Yeea I'm pretty much aware of it dude, thanks.
+adradox Apparently the game is based of off an unreleased Akira Kurosawa film. Nioh is like 3% Dark Souls. Very few things are actually like DS at all really. It's pretty annoying that people compare them simply from the slight online interaction.
7:52 I can't belive at some point in development they thought it was a good idea to not allow you to store elixirs. In the current version it's even more of a non-issue than in Bloodborne, since after you get comfortable enough with the fighting you'll have hundreds and hundreds of elixirs in storage at all times.
Wow, they really changed a lot from the alpha.
Looks way interesting. Maybe the (estus) in Nioh will be fixed: a player can take steps to raise their "minimum" level of flasks, but they still have the option to farm for more. That way, death will not condemn a player to farming from weak mobs, but if said player wants to face a boss, they can always improve their chances by grabbing extras before the fight.
Also, the lack of s and shields seems like a good mixup. I couldn't imagine fighting a prowling demon (DaS I) without either.
Nioh is better hands down.
i hate how clunky dark souls is, nioh feels sooooo fluid. character models in dark souls look terrible as well.
Yup, to me souls clunky design is poke and roll and repeat. Kinda boring.
@@yrh002b8 i finally just beat dark souls 3 and can say, it was the most boring ive had with a game. enemies werent hard they were just glitchy. they can literally 180 from any position, thats not natural. and the dodge roll is sooooooooooooo clunky. If it wasnt for the cool art style of the monsters, i wouldnt of made it through.
Dark souls has more atmosphere, the bosses are not a chore to fight and the loot its not overwhelming.
@@animaovo518 all of which is true about nioh as well. Infact more so for nioh. Dark souls bosses are all a chore, the atmosphere is just grey...
@@Zeroflax the contrary. Dark souls its not a copy an paste scenario lol and rhe bosses do not one hit kill you
I would remove durability from weapons... it's annoying on dark souls (especially DS2, since it's pretty hard to break your weapon on DS1 and 3) and even more in NIOH. A good thing though is that you dont need to warp to level up like you do in DS2, 3 and bloodborne... DS1 did it right allowing you to lvl up at the bonfire, so does NIOH, but those other 3 games force you to endure 2 loading screens (one for you to reach firelink shrine for example and the other one to get back to where you were) and it's completely unnecessary. I would even consider it "bad design".
The Wild Wolf! I hated the bonfire level up system it was dumb seriously it makes sense to have something that can draw your true strength but that's me
They did. Weapons never break
loved your diclaimer in the begining! keep up the top tier quality ^^
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