Well no... The money from the initial purchase of the "battle pass" goes directly into the prize pool. It's the extra purchases for extra levels and "treasures" is set at the 25/75 split
@@RdioActvBanana the gap waaaaaaaaaay to far, look at pro lol player try Dota 2 unranked game for 1st time in RUclips, you will ROFLing so hard, after that search singsing lol videos, he played LOL like reading comic books! I just wanna say I'm LOL'ed!
@@madrain9898 Except its not really declining now, is it? Sure the last 2-3 month the playerbase has been in a (small) decline, however back in March the playerbase was near the highest its ever been in dota history (250k+ players compared to March 2018). The average players online at any time was, just some month back, near record levels.
It's been really interesting to watch the evolution of both the game and The International over the last decade. Even with a prizepool like this, the barrier to entry will still immediately dissuade 85-90% of people with initial interest to learn.
Dota Alchemy only the ones with strongest will to waste away their life/happiness/money continue to play this fucking game. despite all the toxicity and difficulty to get better, we presist
@@tanmaykumar4561 yeah but still, Valve gets the lion share for the prize pool. Let's say the artists get paid for like a total of 20-25% of the prize pool. Where's the rest? Valve. Yep.
@@Larph13 but Valve pays for all the talents food and lodgings, plus hiring and paying every single person that works on the event. Money runs out quickly
@@imo098765 Like how much do they pay for all that expenses? 10,000 per player meal and hotel stay? 10,000 per game for electricity and internet? It's not like that Look in china where the next TI will be played, USD has a couple more value over CNY and basically, they can buy more stuff in China and pay for it for fewer dollars. TI will not deplete the whole community-funded money. Valve is still the clear winner after TI.
lol.fork knife exactly XD dota is the most complicated game in the history that's why it doesn't have much more paly as fork knife or league of lesbians.it needs brain and strategy.
Ithink they listen on to people who want the game to better like bugs report or hero balancing, not crybabies who ask to delete riki or techies because they cant buy any fucking sentries
I knew that feeling, started playing at 13 years old, now I'm 19 and I recently hit divine and am now divine 4. Spam Skywrath Mage, go Atos-Blink-Scythe of Vyse. Blink+Hex then nuke your enemies, get BoTs and run around the map smoked doing that. I gained 1.2k mmr in 2 weeks doing it. Good luck. Heralds-Divines suffer from bad positioning, abuse it hardcore. Also activate quickcast, halving the amount of keys you press/clicks for your sky spamming/nuking. Can play sky in any position and solo win the game through kill gold. Null Talismans into the said items = free win. Don't even need boots of speed. XP talent - +1 arcane bolt - 15% ancient seal - 300 gpm. I see boosters do this all the time.
@@Inaban182 Watch guides of the role you prefer, see what you did good and bad in your replays. Always be in a positive mood when playing and learn to mute people.
The only online game that update patch on some hours 😂 But still, MOBA especially DOTA2 is the best concept of competition, teamwork, strategy, experience, and intuition combined into a game. It's not just like battle royale concept when luck is pretty much affect the game, only a tiny portion on MOBA game based on luck. You gotta hone your skill until your mental is resilient to face any kind of situation that can affect how the game ends.
@@lowlow5678 did you know, now in DoTA 2 all the percentage based skill using the pseudo-random to distribute random number more accurately? Maybe you too much watching Dota WTF sir 😁
@Indio Hatuey What scam Valve are the ones that spend money on creating the compendium AND the actualy TI. This isn't free not sure in what world you live in
Some corrections and additional info: The 29 mil contributed is 25% of the money spent by the community on the event. The other 75% is for valve and I guess for organizing the tournament. Also the stuff you get is not even close to being team based. And if you think about it, yes it is event based, as in you can only get some of it now (a lot of the it can be bought on the steam market later), but it is nowhere near being rare. There is rare stuff among it, but 90% isnt.
it is rare as most what you get in battle pass can't be get anywhere else. example: tower skin, io arcanas, chatwheels, emoticons, alot of sets, taunt.
lew: *dota 2's prize money is so insane* wait till you hear that $30 mil is just a 25% of all total contributed sales,so the dota 2 community contributed about $120 mil all in all
Lew: "it must be impossibly hard". Wow, you have never been more accurate Lew. I say for a person beginning to learn to play dota right now and invest their entire waking hours on the game, the chance they even reach top 10 leaderboard (let alone getting even on the top 10 of The International) is really slim. Every time somebody asks me about how hard the game is I would say "if u invest as much time it takes for you to be slightly above average on this game on something else like being an academician, you might already earn a doctoral degree"
Actually im 2 years watching lew in unbox therapy. And im surprised that the podcast would feature dota 2 which is my fav game now. Pls do more about featuring this game.
I didn't play dota 2 anymore but i always watch the Ti every year There compete the best of the best players and teams It's much better than watching Neymar diving on the field
I stopped watching it since last year due to how terrible arcana and other cosmetics effects. It barely looks like the original character and too much particles
@Naught Guile with all due respect sir i appreciate that you are among the lucky ones that do not have any fps drops in these situations but if you read reddit there is a post about this everyday , my pc runs gta 5 with ultra settings at 120 fps and dota runs at 250-300 fps . surely this is still a issue with some people , i even did rearm + shivas combo in demo mode 20 times nothing happened
Sorry for 2 years late.. Gaben has listened to the player from the very start..watch dota archieve when Gaben approached Dota's Pro Player at TI 1,, he asked them how can he develop the game..
@@magshub6639 I know it's not free but let's be real here, of that 90 mil, how much of that is really invested in the event? Maybe 10 mil? That's a stretch and even then 80 mil is a hefty profit.
Ronit Jaiswal hey the game is free to play.. Where do u think they will get the money for maintenance of the server around the world plus keeping updates and making the game alive? Plus its not compulsary.. Yes its 75% which goes to valve, but that 75% is what keeps the game alive whole year around.. Remember valve is not a charity.. But they're doing it as if they are.
@@ronitjaiswal7856 Search most profit games in 2018 and how much they make profit.Billions and hundred of millions.None of the game make a tournment that give a large prize pool just fronite recently did one. Only dota is the game that give money back to players and give community a fan.This is not a chartiy. For long runs,they need money too.
I am 38 years old and I have been playing DOTA for almost twenty years now since it was created in the Warcraft mod. I dont play it so much now as I always get my ass kicked but I continue to watch it and support it. I treat it like a sport, it is very entertaning to watch. And dont waste your time trying to be a pro. A pro grinds 8-12 hours every day playing and I would say only Top 200 of pros make decent salary out of maybe 20 million people who play DOTA 2. That's 1 in 100.000 players. And only Top 5 players can reach 1 million income every year.
its just from passion to pay money i guess, theres alot of long time dota players that play since they are young, im 25 i started to play dota when i was 11, now im doing pretty well i dont mind dumping 1k for something that helped me go through my childhood even though i havent played the game for 3 years,i bet alot of people also feel the same way, i just wanna see its community do well
the 32M is only 25% from actual money that valve got, so for the rest like 75% money is organized for the international itself and don't forget the money also goes to the valve.
The last part man!! EXACTLYYYY!! Finally someone that sees ESports as a growing and developing industry. Thank you man. Most reviews I see are just closed minded people that only sees this as a waste of time and money. Finally someone gets IT.
Youngest kid to win The International was Sumail who won at the age of I think 16 in 2015. He started at around 7-8 years old. He plays for a team called Evil Geniuses. That year's prize pool was around 25 million USD.
The release an subscription typ of thing called the compendium, the more the level, the more is the chance of drop called treasure which relate to drop rare/ immortal item. People can buy compendium level which increase their compendium level. That's so addictive things. That's how dota make that's kind of huge money.
@@batmeme9349 it does though, not everything obviously, but give me another game that puts up the next arcana for a vote, and that when that vote is lost, still does it because of how many people want it (io arcana)
players buy dota battle pass lvl 1 is at 10$ starting you can buy levels that may or will give you skins or items as you level up your battle pass, every time you buy any item that is included in the event, 25% of that goes to the price pool and the remaining 75% goes to the developers and production team.
So if you don't want vavle get 75% you want valve to lose profits ? Show me any game that run like charity. There are so many games that have a lot of profits and all go in their pockets. At least valve give back community as much as they take. TI open a road for esport and still continuing.When TI 1 starts one million prize pool, no one ever heard and everyone suprised. If you search most profit games,there is no space for dota. But they still give us an exciting and enjoyable tournment every year. Show me any game who care fans at least like dota.
@@smitshah596 the update got just released and valve specifically asked the community to help with the concept. Just because it does not work perfectly on the release doesn't mean that it's destined to fail
The thing with the prize pool is that when we buy the tournament compendium only 25% goes to the prize pool so basically if the prize pool is 30 million steam made a profit of over 75 million dollars in one event , not the mention the live tournament tickets.
they kjinda do tho. more than most other companies like EA or Blizzard. a lot of the current quality of life things in the game were because of reddit : p
Just a word on commitment, I started when I was 14 and now am 19, I am in the 90th percentile of players (ancient 4/4kmmr/4k hours) the mmr value dictates skill - pro players start baseline 6kmmr+ and have probably 10000 hour in game with the immortal medal. It takes a lot of effort.
im 27 i have 8500 matches peak 5.5k mmr, the diference from 6 7 and 8k mmr is literally river plate from argentina against barcelona of spain, there are tiers of players and team and you know that, to be in to the top 5 or 10, you need to be really really good as a team
Fortnite is more casually famous. Dota 2 on the other hand got so many devout fans. handing over 10$ (the price of Compendium, 25% of which goes to the International Prize Pool) is nothing to them. something to blow everyone's mind. since 1 steam account can only buy 1 compendium, most people just buy 1 for themselves, that means around 100mil that came from compendium was surely bought by nearly 10 million people (the number can be off because some people creates multiple account), Valve can really brag that Dota 2 is the premiere esport game.
You can buy only one compendium, but you can put any amount of money to that (compendium level) this year to get the Axe cosmetic you have to spend nearly 200 usd, you can get it without money too, but it takes time and it's not sure you will get it (not enough time)
I have Played about 7thousand hours of dota2 (gameplay only) not even all the videos I've watched related to the game. I've stopped playing for about 2 years now but still watch every single tournament. Dota is a beautiful game but it has a pretty toxic community
every game has a toxic community, as a LoL player I think out of the biggest games CSGO has the most toxic but at the same time the most coordinated Community
3:50 to answer this question sumail who if I'm not mistaken was the youngest player to win The International has been playing since he was 7 and won when he was 16 in the international 5 miracle(20 at the time) who was part of the team that won international 7 and was their star player has been playing since he was 13 im not sure when he started but he played in a tournament when he was 13. but he only started to play in pro dota 2 in 2015. there are also guys like misery who has been playing since dota 1 and was dominant back then with his highest placement as 2nd now this players are exceptionally talented individuals far from casuals with 5k+ hours in the game. the problem is even if dota has a prizepool like that the game doesnt have a good tutorial which drives the new guys away not to mention the fact that the game is extremely complex.
I play a lot of dota 2, and i contribuite to the compendium (the prize pool) Just because i like the idea i play an Amazing free-to-play game and i wanna contribute to the community; plus i get skins and skills effects more beautiful then the normal so win-win
Free-to-play and I was spend about 2000$ this year just because stunning with ES Arcana, Axe Immortal and Persona... Even I don't reach out 2000 level with that.. hahaha..
@@MuhamadBayuSamudra dude i just spent +-150$ for lvl 425 ,i didnt even buy the summer bundle why did you spent more for that? And less than 1000$ you can reach lvl 2k
Dota didnt just have skins, they have sound effects, graphic effects for teleportation, items and skills for individual heroes (skin related). and the most exciting of them all is arcana skin where u vote for a hero to get one. arcana is like one of the rarest item in the game, and theres gold version too.
Sadly no, most dota players now are the ones who played dota 1 and are like older generations. 10 yrs from now it will decline in playerbase. I can't even see complete true beginners on dota anymore, only smurfs who ruin games for the ones who wanna try it out. So it's gonna die out soon
Type of tournament something you'll watch? I literally wait for August to come so that i can watch THE INTERNATIONAL..And I watch all the majors and minors semi finals and finales that takes place throughout the year..I have my final exams almost in every August..even right now I am giving my Finals..While my other friends are excited for the exams to be over and go home.. I am excited that the date of the tournament is coming closer..Production value is seriously crazy.and its soo much fun to watch.
Well i touched this as soon as i saw this cuz im a big dota fan got my bp lvl 1k last year also you get a battle pass for 10$ and than you can buy lvl 2 lvl are 1$ and only 25% of the money go to the prize pool
The amazing thing about this prize money is that Dota 2 has a very static playerbase, i.e they gain little to no new players. Most of them signed up to the game since 10-5 years ago, but these loyal players are the ones who kept the game floating lmao. I mean even lower bracket players are either those who have played for a very long time but stuck in the same brackets or smurfs. Almost nobody new actually try to play this game. But I don't think this game will die anytime soon. And even with these static playerbase, Dota 2 is arguably the most interesting esports to watch, thus they will always retain a high number of viewers in the big competitive event because even those who doesn't play Dota anymore (myself included), would still gladly watch the event.
Lew, you hit the nail on the head bro. The game is SO DAMN hard. Hardest video game I evered played. I got to the 99th percentile in NA, which is decent, but compared to the pros I am atrocious. It's staggering really.
I have around 5000 hours and I'm still nowhere close to the pro-Dota 2 scene and I started in 2013 (i was 13 & 20 now). Example: NoTail (on the winning team of TI8) has more than 15000 hrs. Yeah, not 1500 hrs. Many people just assume that if they devote their times to it they will be good enough for the pro scene, that's unfortunately far from reality. Many pro-level players don't get a chance to play for one of these teams. They generally require previous pro experience and connections w a certain team. Tough to enter the pro scene, at least in the CIS region.
Difference between eSport and Sports is that, you can get really good faster in the game within months or a year unlike sports where you need to build up your physical capability which takes a long time. Except of course for those gifted ones in sports and eSports.
ameya deokule i love this point tho, for some pro dota2 players already start (touching related dota : wc3, dota1, starcraft) before reach 10 years old. For example miracle, rtz, abed, etc.
Dota 2 is definitely one of the hardest games to master. You'd have to know all the 100+ heroes plus their skills, the 100+ items in the game, and then comes the basic game mechanics followed by the advanced micro-mechanics.
25% for prizepool split between participant 75% for valve split between skin artist, music artist, animation artist, caster etc. And they dont neccesary need to be valve employee, if ur art good enough and get vooted from the cummunity workshoop u can get some money too
Dota 2 is 5v5 Strategy Moba game. It has 5 different roles for each players in a team. You can choose any heroes with different roles. Plus the competitive matchmaking is challenging. Because you have to play 100 normal matches to fully play competitive matchmaking. And As I spent 1000 hours on this game. This game is really challenging and hard
@@hongsethya4932 consider: lodging for players, staff, then consider cost of Mercedes-Benz Arena, then consider price of security, then consider cost of networking, production, sets and everything, then, while you are at it, there is food, water, everything.... That does not come for free...
You can if you're just talking about prize pools, even though CSGO is a much superior competitive game to both of them and get a fraction of the prize.
Wtf hahahaha try playing dota. Csgo fort nite are just basics. Just know the buttons the right angle or shits but in dota2 you must think. Item builds counter picks and fvcken team play is needed. Dota is the father of RPG games
Halgun just so you know I played both games and was Lem in cs go after just 6 months in the game while dota on the other hand that is the basic time to learn the game
03:50 if you wanted to be the best dota2 player...see that's the tricky part...dota is such a game where there can never be the best....unlike all other esports...there can be no single best dota2 player in the world...there are crazy top tier players tho..
This year prize pool is 35 million plus and after this tournament they have 5 to 10 majors with million dollar prize pool 😂😂 so all m saying is we can make career out of it 😂
I was just listening to this as background noise as I brushed my teeth and when he said this company listens to it’s audience I actually choked on toothpaste
the international is HUGE, sold out arenas, mini documentaries, commentators, main panel or whatever. definitely not small time and if you understand the game and the teamwork and skill required to do what the pros do you have a good appreciation for it. definition of an "eSport".
DotA is by far the hardest team game i know thete is.. u need to invest thousands of hours just to get a high game iq.. its no joke, you cant judt say that i want to be good at dota hahaha.
Fortnite's or League's major targets are kids while DotA 2's target are kids and young adults, but mostly young adults are majority because DotA were so old now, kids playing DotA back then are now mostly adults, they can pay their own, they can pay their own Compedium, Skins, Equipments, etc. That's why Prize Pool is so huge
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Hey, the contributed prize pool is only 25% of what players spend, I.e 75% goes to the Valve. So the total spending is above 100M
wtf
And valve doesn't listen to the community lol
i was thinking the same fuck the fortnite dota is popular fortnite is mainstream
Well no... The money from the initial purchase of the "battle pass" goes directly into the prize pool. It's the extra purchases for extra levels and "treasures" is set at the 25/75 split
@@HussainArafat why listen to the community complaint if they just gonna throw money at valve regardless of what valve do with the complaint
The dota 2 players contribute the prize pool to get Ceeeeeeeeeebbbbb!!!
Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb my ceb cost more ;)
GETS THE CALL.... OF HIS LIFETIME!!!!!
@@anacondav12 Really?
> Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb!
haha, I just typed 'cep' now, can only spend for the battlepass, not the level...kinda sad..
Give credits to odpixel for that chatwheel
they say dota is a dead game.
Gaben: hold my 90m
In terms of player base, yeah it is actually declining, gaben just made some really cool looking skins this year, squeezing from the remaining players
@Markie Ang Co "Dota is a... sick mental game, it brings out the best and the worst in you"
@Markie Ang Co LoL IS easier compared to dota
@@RdioActvBanana the gap waaaaaaaaaay to far, look at pro lol player try Dota 2 unranked game for 1st time in RUclips, you will ROFLing so hard, after that search singsing lol videos, he played LOL like reading comic books!
I just wanna say I'm LOL'ed!
@@madrain9898 Except its not really declining now, is it? Sure the last 2-3 month the playerbase has been in a (small) decline, however back in March the playerbase was near the highest its ever been in dota history (250k+ players compared to March 2018). The average players online at any time was, just some month back, near record levels.
"Dota is a... sick mental game, it brings out the best and the worst in you"
Its a love and hate relationship honestly lmao
Notail the legend
"If you breaks the other's hands, it gets really easy"
That made me laugh so hard
Yeah u hate this game and uinstall it
But somehow u wanted to reinstall it again and again
It's been really interesting to watch the evolution of both the game and The International over the last decade. Even with a prizepool like this, the barrier to entry will still immediately dissuade 85-90% of people with initial interest to learn.
Australian Dota best Dota
dota alchemy hahahha
@Dota Alchemy coach me for free pls hahah
hi dota alchemy !
Dota Alchemy only the ones with strongest will to waste away their life/happiness/money continue to play this fucking game. despite all the toxicity and difficulty to get better, we presist
Dota players who contributed, we unite!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
25% of the contributed money go to the price pool, Valve gets 75%. So basically Valve earned 90 Million US-$ minus the cost of running the tournament.
They also have to pay the artists from that money right? If i remember correctly, they get a fixed share out of every asset sale
@@tanmaykumar4561 that is old news, now they just get credit afaik.
@@tanmaykumar4561 yeah but still, Valve gets the lion share for the prize pool. Let's say the artists get paid for like a total of 20-25% of the prize pool. Where's the rest? Valve. Yep.
@@Larph13 but Valve pays for all the talents food and lodgings, plus hiring and paying every single person that works on the event. Money runs out quickly
@@imo098765 Like how much do they pay for all that expenses? 10,000 per player meal and hotel stay? 10,000 per game for electricity and internet? It's not like that Look in china where the next TI will be played, USD has a couple more value over CNY and basically, they can buy more stuff in China and pay for it for fewer dollars. TI will not deplete the whole community-funded money. Valve is still the clear winner after TI.
Type of tournament something you'll watch?
Ofc. Every TI is a must watch.
Every Ti (almost?) has the highest prize pool in esports history.
Agree. TI is like the superbowl or the NBA finals. even if your a casual you end up watching these kinds of tournaments
Except TI4, that shit boring as fuck
Chinese teams are pretty boring
Ofc i hope this TI will surpass last years TI Grand final
This is the typical reaction of fork knife players.
I play spoon
Typical reaction of every non-DotA player tbh
-Fortnite- fartnite😆😆
lol.fork knife exactly XD
dota is the most complicated game in the history that's why it doesn't have much more paly as fork knife or league of lesbians.it needs brain and strategy.
@@cerebelul 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣👌
Valve listening the community
Gabe : its true Kappa
comunnity: delete techies and Riki
gabben: STFU. blyat.
VALVE LISTENING TO COMMUNITY OMEGAFAKINLUL
Krappa
Ithink they listen on to people who want the game to better like bugs report or hero balancing, not crybabies who ask to delete riki or techies because they cant buy any fucking sentries
at least we have wykhrm who at least has a way for us players to complain to or just go to reddit/dota2 lol
I started at 16yrs now I'm 23 and still can't even reach divine..so ya dota is a very hard game
I knew that feeling, started playing at 13 years old, now I'm 19 and I recently hit divine and am now divine 4. Spam Skywrath Mage, go Atos-Blink-Scythe of Vyse. Blink+Hex then nuke your enemies, get BoTs and run around the map smoked doing that. I gained 1.2k mmr in 2 weeks doing it. Good luck. Heralds-Divines suffer from bad positioning, abuse it hardcore. Also activate quickcast, halving the amount of keys you press/clicks for your sky spamming/nuking. Can play sky in any position and solo win the game through kill gold. Null Talismans into the said items = free win. Don't even need boots of speed. XP talent - +1 arcane bolt - 15% ancient seal - 300 gpm. I see boosters do this all the time.
dude I started at 14 now I'm 26 and still can't reach ancestral :(
How many hours played?
@@Inaban182 Watch guides of the role you prefer, see what you did good and bad in your replays. Always be in a positive mood when playing and learn to mute people.
dude, your profile pic 😂
The only online game that update patch on some hours 😂
But still, MOBA especially DOTA2 is the best concept of competition, teamwork, strategy, experience, and intuition combined into a game.
It's not just like battle royale concept when luck is pretty much affect the game, only a tiny portion on MOBA game based on luck. You gotta hone your skill until your mental is resilient to face any kind of situation that can affect how the game ends.
best comment ever
Give this man a thumbs up
best comment thumbs up for you!
Luck ? Lemme laugh in 17% bash = 100%
@@lowlow5678 did you know, now in DoTA 2 all the percentage based skill using the pseudo-random to distribute random number more accurately?
Maybe you too much watching Dota WTF sir 😁
Thats right, bow to the alpha game!
Alpha af
Hahahhha
Alpha as fuck bro. Salute
Dota is one of the bettas games out there, something like minecraft should be seem as "alpha"
...
Lmao yea
“There might be a percentage that the developer get” Lew said
Ha ha ha ha haa hahaaaa
@Indio Hatuey usually the company takes 100%, so just taking 75% is basically charity.
@Indio Hatuey What scam Valve are the ones that spend money on creating the compendium AND the actualy TI. This isn't free not sure in what world you live in
i wanna see his reaction when he finds out valve keeps 75%
and that pool prize is just the 25%
Lew is on rendering mode when he hears the prize money hahahaha
price money. hmmmmm. ok
Some corrections and additional info:
The 29 mil contributed is 25% of the money spent by the community on the event. The other 75% is for valve and I guess for organizing the tournament. Also the stuff you get is not even close to being team based. And if you think about it, yes it is event based, as in you can only get some of it now (a lot of the it can be bought on the steam market later), but it is nowhere near being rare. There is rare stuff among it, but 90% isnt.
You misinterpreted him, what he said is that the stuff you get is "theme" related not "team". Smh
@@boop092 You mean misheard? And I might've, but im not sold that he said "theme".
it is rare as most what you get in battle pass can't be get anywhere else. example: tower skin, io arcanas, chatwheels, emoticons, alot of sets, taunt.
@@davidsantoso2291 Sadly some lf the stuff isnt permanent, just available throughout the event period (which admitedly is in the "months" territory).
Gabriel Isabelo watch 2:56. He said team based again. Unless you’re trying to tell me he’s saying dota2 is a theme based game? Smh
Lou : "it's a wild concept,"...
Where were you in the past few years Lou?
Unboxing stuff?
To be fair only Dota 2 does this concept
The youngest player at the pro level who also played and won an international was 16 when he won it...
And Warcraft DotA since they were 6 yrs old
Then they kicked his team mate that help them win it
Press F for Aui_2000
@@philipjamescastro8948 sumail won at the age of 6?
In warcraft?
All of this money and Gaben still enter TI stage with flip-flops and a shirt that can't even cover his belly. I fucking love it.
How did he not realize that only 25% of the sales go to the price pool, it's literary written on the screen he was looking at....
lew: *dota 2's prize money is so insane*
wait till you hear that $30 mil is just a 25% of all total contributed sales,so the dota 2 community contributed about $120 mil all in all
Lew: "it must be impossibly hard". Wow, you have never been more accurate Lew. I say for a person beginning to learn to play dota right now and invest their entire waking hours on the game, the chance they even reach top 10 leaderboard (let alone getting even on the top 10 of The International) is really slim. Every time somebody asks me about how hard the game is I would say "if u invest as much time it takes for you to be slightly above average on this game on something else like being an academician, you might already earn a doctoral degree"
I just bought it to get Lakad Matataaag! Normalin! Normalin!
And nowadays you can get that easily by joining a guild
Actually im 2 years watching lew in unbox therapy. And im surprised that the podcast would feature dota 2 which is my fav game now.
Pls do more about featuring this game.
I didn't play dota 2 anymore but i always watch the Ti every year
There compete the best of the best players and teams
It's much better than watching Neymar diving on the field
I stopped watching it since last year due to how terrible arcana and other cosmetics effects. It barely looks like the original character and too much particles
This Guy has some Class :} I stopped watching after Lord Dondo stopped participating pepega
rtz sitting on cliffs is the same as neymar diving, change my mind
Yo valve, 30 M prize pool and still we lag when Monkey King uses ulti :(
On top of pl get echo while dark seer wall create more illusion.
@Naught Guile go and check admiral bulldog's stream vods when he is vs an mk. He lags go badly when mk ults
@Naught Guile with all due respect sir i appreciate that you are among the lucky ones that do not have any fps drops in these situations but if you read reddit there is a post about this everyday , my pc runs gta 5 with ultra settings at 120 fps and dota runs at 250-300 fps . surely this is still a issue with some people , i even did rearm + shivas combo in demo mode 20 times nothing happened
@Naught Guile the lag issue are not only based on your hardware, the game it self and the game engine were also take a part of it
@Naught Guile well i guess it just a bad luck. Since someone else above mention some streamers had that lag problem
Yup, saw the tab open in lew’s laptop a few videos back.
What is crazy is that its an old payer base...not like 15 year olds
Gaben listen to player😂. Greatest joke i heard today😂
#vote_for_ogre.
Not Gaben, a certain frozen amphibian
Think ice frog only do the game related stuff skins and other r probably done my steam . Correct me if i am wrong
@@safalkoirala2330 pls make it more understanable
@@CharDhue icefrog only do game things like nerf and buff, bugs, etc. Skins are from Steam Workshop (Users Creation)
Sorry for 2 years late..
Gaben has listened to the player from the very start..watch dota archieve when Gaben approached Dota's Pro Player at TI 1,, he asked them how can he develop the game..
This was 2 years ago. Wait till they see this year
Just 25% of the sales fund the prize pool.
Technically 120 million in revenue and 25% of that ie 30 mil goes to prizepool. valve keeps rest of the 90 mil.
do u think renting arena, event crew and many more are free?
@@magshub6639 I know it's not free but let's be real here, of that 90 mil, how much of that is really invested in the event? Maybe 10 mil? That's a stretch and even then 80 mil is a hefty profit.
Ronit Jaiswal hey the game is free to play.. Where do u think they will get the money for maintenance of the server around the world plus keeping updates and making the game alive? Plus its not compulsary.. Yes its 75% which goes to valve, but that 75% is what keeps the game alive whole year around.. Remember valve is not a charity.. But they're doing it as if they are.
@@ronitjaiswal7856 Search most profit games in 2018 and how much they make profit.Billions and hundred of millions.None of the game make a tournment that give a large prize pool just fronite recently did one.
Only dota is the game that give money back to players and give community a fan.This is not a chartiy. For long runs,they need money too.
I am 38 years old and I have been playing DOTA for almost twenty years now since it was created in the Warcraft mod. I dont play it so much now as I always get my ass kicked but I continue to watch it and support it. I treat it like a sport, it is very entertaning to watch.
And dont waste your time trying to be a pro. A pro grinds 8-12 hours every day playing and I would say only Top 200 of pros make decent salary out of maybe 20 million people who play DOTA 2. That's 1 in 100.000 players. And only Top 5 players can reach 1 million income every year.
its just from passion to pay money i guess, theres alot of long time dota players that play since they are young, im 25 i started to play dota when i was 11, now im doing pretty well i dont mind dumping 1k for something that helped me go through my childhood even though i havent played the game for 3 years,i bet alot of people also feel the same way, i just wanna see its community do well
the 32M is only 25% from actual money that valve got, so for the rest like 75% money is organized for the international itself and don't forget the money also goes to the valve.
AND WE ARE NOT DONE YET! 😎
More coming after Tiny Prestige Item 🤩
Wait till Lew finds out about TI10 prize pool
Valve keeps 75%but they use it for the arena and the accommodations. (some of it)
they also get some from advertisements
"It's a moba"
People don't know that "moba" is a term for everything from chess to CS, yet neither of them are "mobas".
ARTS.
The last part man!! EXACTLYYYY!! Finally someone that sees ESports as a growing and developing industry. Thank you man. Most reviews I see are just closed minded people that only sees this as a waste of time and money. Finally someone gets IT.
Youngest kid to win The International was Sumail who won at the age of I think 16 in 2015. He started at around 7-8 years old. He plays for a team called Evil Geniuses. That year's prize pool was around 25 million USD.
Lew talking about Dota...... Which earth m living on????? Amazing dude... Love you
The release an subscription typ of thing called the compendium, the more the level, the more is the chance of drop called treasure which relate to drop rare/ immortal item. People can buy compendium level which increase their compendium level. That's so addictive things. That's how dota make that's kind of huge money.
fave youtuber talk abt my fave game made my day
"it's just one of those companies that really listen to the costumers" we talking about valve???
Data is the best game ever, I'm glad to see this kind of video from you guys
In dota 2 you don't buy battle pass you buy memes memes are love memes are a way of life is natural 30m would happen
"It'S a cOmPANy thAt lIsTEns To tHe GaMERs"
well yeah, for the people that pays.
Krappa
@@batmeme9349 it does though, not everything obviously, but give me another game that puts up the next arcana for a vote, and that when that vote is lost, still does it because of how many people want it (io arcana)
Still beta #NoKappa
Krappa
players buy dota battle pass
lvl 1 is at 10$ starting
you can buy levels that may or will give you skins or items as you level up your battle pass,
every time you buy any item that is included in the event, 25% of that goes to the price pool and the remaining 75% goes to the developers and production team.
Listens to the customer 😂😂😂
Devs?
Valve gets 75% of the contribution and only 25% gotoprize pool so 100m is contributed xD
Smit Shah Well the new matchmaking update is a step into the right direction. Ranked Roles for every one
@@towb0at have u even tried it ?
People are queuing hard support for faster ques and no one is playing their roles had 5 games from morning
So if you don't want vavle get 75% you want valve to lose profits ? Show me any game that run like charity.
There are so many games that have a lot of profits and all go in their pockets. At least valve give back community as much as they take. TI open a road for esport and still continuing.When TI 1 starts one million prize pool, no one ever heard and everyone suprised. If you search most profit games,there is no space for dota. But they still give us an exciting and enjoyable tournment every year. Show me any game who care fans at least like dota.
Well it's a free game , spending money is ur choice
@@smitshah596 the update got just released and valve specifically asked the community to help with the concept. Just because it does not work perfectly on the release doesn't mean that it's destined to fail
I'm so glad you find out about dota 2 :)))
98% people here are Dota 2 players and that 59 dislikes( for now ) is League of Legends players xD
Xd indeed
Cam sense some Leagures are jealous..😂😂
Lol is close to dead
hahaahhaahahah yeah!🤣😆
Fork knife players
The dislikes are there because they did poor research.
The thing with the prize pool is that when we buy the tournament compendium only 25% goes to the prize pool so basically if the prize pool is 30 million steam made a profit of over 75 million dollars in one event , not the mention the live tournament tickets.
dota is hard game. but even if you can't play the game pretty good. you can watch other player or any turnament. watching dota is kind of art.
More info besides that only 25% of the revenue goes to the pricepool:
The winner team gets half of the pricepool
So proud being in a dota 2 community even i dont buy compendium. Lol
moncheri 07 good for u., and you're playing the game for free. Be thankful atleast.
Spend ur free time in nature or with people,dont throw it on games....i was a freak dota player and i know how much of a life i missed!
@@milelemi8725 omfg man I can't agree enough
@@milelemi8725 cant agree more
they don't give items it is actually a battle pass and by paying more you get more levels and on each level u get skins and other gifts
"one of those companies that really listens to the players" hahahahahhahaha
they kjinda do tho. more than most other companies like EA or Blizzard. a lot of the current quality of life things in the game were because of reddit : p
@@xyr3s tbh they only listen to top Reddit post, except list of game breaking bugs.
Gaben
@@koknyoq top reddit posts are the safest things to implement sice they are the majority of the community
im glad they dont allways listens, we dont even know what we want most of the time
Just a word on commitment, I started when I was 14 and now am 19, I am in the 90th percentile of players (ancient 4/4kmmr/4k hours) the mmr value dictates skill - pro players start baseline 6kmmr+ and have probably 10000 hour in game with the immortal medal. It takes a lot of effort.
im 27 i have 8500 matches peak 5.5k mmr, the diference from 6 7 and 8k mmr is literally river plate from argentina against barcelona of spain, there are tiers of players and team and you know that, to be in to the top 5 or 10, you need to be really really good as a team
Fortnite is more casually famous. Dota 2 on the other hand got so many devout fans. handing over 10$ (the price of Compendium, 25% of which goes to the International Prize Pool) is nothing to them.
something to blow everyone's mind. since 1 steam account can only buy 1 compendium, most people just buy 1 for themselves, that means around 100mil that came from compendium was surely bought by nearly 10 million people (the number can be off because some people creates multiple account), Valve can really brag that Dota 2 is the premiere esport game.
You can buy only one compendium, but you can put any amount of money to that (compendium level) this year to get the Axe cosmetic you have to spend nearly 200 usd, you can get it without money too, but it takes time and it's not sure you will get it (not enough time)
started playing it from middle school. so i guess 13. and now i am 26. and still learning everyday
I have Played about 7thousand hours of dota2 (gameplay only) not even all the videos I've watched related to the game.
I've stopped playing for about 2 years now but still watch every single tournament.
Dota is a beautiful game but it has a pretty toxic community
Last line touched my soul bro .
Pretty sure other community too
Every gaming community has some toxicity dude welcome to 2019
Every game has their own taste of toxic community
every game has a toxic community, as a LoL player I think
out of the biggest games CSGO has the most toxic but at the same time the most coordinated Community
3:50
to answer this question
sumail who if I'm not mistaken was the youngest player to win The International has been playing since he was 7 and won when he was 16 in the international 5
miracle(20 at the time) who was part of the team that won international 7 and was their star player has been playing since he was 13 im not sure when he started but he played in a tournament when he was 13. but he only started to play in pro dota 2 in 2015.
there are also guys like misery who has been playing since dota 1 and was dominant back then with his highest placement as 2nd
now this players are exceptionally talented individuals far from casuals with 5k+ hours in the game.
the problem is even if dota has a prizepool like that the game doesnt have a good tutorial which drives the new guys away not to mention the fact that the game is extremely complex.
I play a lot of dota 2, and i contribuite to the compendium (the prize pool) Just because i like the idea i play an Amazing free-to-play game and i wanna contribute to the community; plus i get skins and skills effects more beautiful then the normal so win-win
Krappa
Free-to-play and I was spend about 2000$ this year just because stunning with ES Arcana, Axe Immortal and Persona... Even I don't reach out 2000 level with that.. hahaha..
What lvl are you
I'm just at lvl 156
@@MuhamadBayuSamudra dude i just spent +-150$ for lvl 425 ,i didnt even buy the summer bundle why did you spent more for that? And less than 1000$ you can reach lvl 2k
Dota didnt just have skins, they have sound effects, graphic effects for teleportation, items and skills for individual heroes (skin related). and the most exciting of them all is arcana skin where u vote for a hero to get one. arcana is like one of the rarest item in the game, and theres gold version too.
It IS a complicated game honestly. I hope dota2 attacts more new players in the future. TI9 is gonna be epic!!
Sadly no, most dota players now are the ones who played dota 1 and are like older generations. 10 yrs from now it will decline in playerbase. I can't even see complete true beginners on dota anymore, only smurfs who ruin games for the ones who wanna try it out. So it's gonna die out soon
Type of tournament something you'll watch?
I literally wait for August to come so that i can watch THE INTERNATIONAL..And I watch all the majors and minors semi finals and finales that takes place throughout the year..I have my final exams almost in every August..even right now I am giving my Finals..While my other friends are excited for the exams to be over and go home.. I am excited that the date of the tournament is coming closer..Production value is seriously crazy.and its soo much fun to watch.
Can't wait till my kid comes to me and says "Eh...*points at samples of prize pools*...I'm pretty good..."
that 30 mil.. is just 25% of what the whole Dota community contributed, which is 120mil and counting..
Well i touched this as soon as i saw this cuz im a big dota fan got my bp lvl 1k last year also you get a battle pass for 10$ and than you can buy lvl 2 lvl are 1$ and only 25% of the money go to the prize pool
The amazing thing about this prize money is that Dota 2 has a very static playerbase, i.e they gain little to no new players. Most of them signed up to the game since 10-5 years ago, but these loyal players are the ones who kept the game floating lmao.
I mean even lower bracket players are either those who have played for a very long time but stuck in the same brackets or smurfs. Almost nobody new actually try to play this game. But I don't think this game will die anytime soon.
And even with these static playerbase, Dota 2 is arguably the most interesting esports to watch, thus they will always retain a high number of viewers in the big competitive event because even those who doesn't play Dota anymore (myself included), would still gladly watch the event.
Lew, you hit the nail on the head bro. The game is SO DAMN hard. Hardest video game I evered played. I got to the 99th percentile in NA, which is decent, but compared to the pros I am atrocious. It's staggering really.
I have around 5000 hours and I'm still nowhere close to the pro-Dota 2 scene and I started in 2013 (i was 13 & 20 now). Example: NoTail (on the winning team of TI8) has more than 15000 hrs. Yeah, not 1500 hrs. Many people just assume that if they devote their times to it they will be good enough for the pro scene, that's unfortunately far from reality. Many pro-level players don't get a chance to play for one of these teams. They generally require previous pro experience and connections w a certain team. Tough to enter the pro scene, at least in the CIS region.
"Valve listens to players" cool.
So where's the HALF-LIFE 3?
Difference between eSport and Sports is that, you can get really good faster in the game within months or a year unlike sports where you need to build up your physical capability which takes a long time. Except of course for those gifted ones in sports and eSports.
It's valve and gaben's favorite game so what did u expect?
30 million is well deserved, dota is probably the hardest to fully master. So many variable, so many things you can do.
Yes 10 would be a great age to start
ameya deokule i love this point tho, for some pro dota2 players already start (touching related dota : wc3, dota1, starcraft) before reach 10 years old. For example miracle, rtz, abed, etc.
Dota 2 is definitely one of the hardest games to master. You'd have to know all the 100+ heroes plus their skills, the 100+ items in the game, and then comes the basic game mechanics followed by the advanced micro-mechanics.
Indeed up to now only 4 pro players can play meepo imagine that,
You don't see their genuine fascination. They sound and look clueless about the game at least to me. XD
25% for prizepool split between participant
75% for valve split between skin artist, music artist, animation artist, caster etc. And they dont neccesary need to be valve employee, if ur art good enough and get vooted from the cummunity workshoop u can get some money too
Plz some one tell them it's just 25 % 😂😂😂
Dota 2 is 5v5 Strategy Moba game. It has 5 different roles for each players in a team. You can choose any heroes with different roles. Plus the competitive matchmaking is challenging. Because you have to play 100 normal matches to fully play competitive matchmaking. And As I spent 1000 hours on this game. This game is really challenging and hard
Gaben keeps 75% ahahah 😏😎😏 only 25% is contributed
man u know how much cost to rent stadium, pay workers, own tech its insane number gaben takes like 20% man
In the meantime = matchmaking =RIP
@@devedeve1029 This shows how gaben are cares about us. LOL have almost 100m player but prize pool are so less than us
@@hongsethya4932 consider: lodging for players, staff, then consider cost of Mercedes-Benz Arena, then consider price of security, then consider cost of networking, production, sets and everything, then, while you are at it, there is food, water, everything.... That does not come for free...
@@JM_psyike LUL do you know how much ticket the international cost is ? you make me laugh
feels good having your favorite game being reconized
Lol! You can never compare Fornite to DOTA2. Hahaha. 😂
You can if you're just talking about prize pools, even though CSGO is a much superior competitive game to both of them and get a fraction of the prize.
Halgun cs go superior to dota ?? Dont make me laugh.Even a child can play cs go and it takes you almost a year or half to just know the basics of dota
Wtf hahahaha try playing dota. Csgo fort nite are just basics. Just know the buttons the right angle or shits but in dota2 you must think. Item builds counter picks and fvcken team play is needed. Dota is the father of RPG games
@@god_dipu4623 Pretty easy to tell neither of you have even played csgo, at least more than 5 minutes.
Halgun just so you know I played both games and was Lem in cs go after just 6 months in the game while dota on the other hand that is the basic time to learn the game
03:50 if you wanted to be the best dota2 player...see that's the tricky part...dota is such a game where there can never be the best....unlike all other esports...there can be no single best dota2 player in the world...there are crazy top tier players tho..
gorgc is the best player in the world
2:26 "It's one of those companies that listen to the players" sure.. WHERE IS DIRETIDE?
Gaben: Soon Krappa
They got the calculations wrong, 25% of what you spend goes to TI so of the price pool is 30 mil that means that players spent 120 mil
$30 million is just 25% of what the community contributes.
Kids start at 5-6 years old btw
At 32 million right now! Dota 2 community bless up!
This year prize pool is 35 million plus and after this tournament they have 5 to 10 majors with million dollar prize pool 😂😂 so all m saying is we can make career out of it 😂
Most pros do play from dota1 which was published like 2003/04 so yeah.
it takes around 13k hours to become a "pro" dota2 player
Meanwhile Sumail wins TI5 as a 16 years old haha
@@ChaosSpectator2020 he was playing since he was 9 thou
I was just listening to this as background noise as I brushed my teeth and when he said this company listens to it’s audience I actually choked on toothpaste
Do a research before making videos
the international is HUGE, sold out arenas, mini documentaries, commentators, main panel or whatever. definitely not small time and if you understand the game and the teamwork and skill required to do what the pros do you have a good appreciation for it. definition of an "eSport".
DotA is by far the hardest team game i know thete is.. u need to invest thousands of hours just to get a high game iq.. its no joke, you cant judt say that i want to be good at dota hahaha.
I have 4000 hours. That's not enough to be top tier
I played since Dota 1 (2005) for me, yet I'm still stuck on divine 6.
This is the hardest MOBA ever!
15k hours.. and i have 2 smurf account... bow down mortal.. haha but the journey was not without struggle, it was difficult.
I had 3,000+ hours (not including time spent on DotA 1) and it's still not enough. Damn.
Fortnite's or League's major targets are kids
while DotA 2's target are kids and young adults, but mostly young adults are majority because DotA were so old now, kids playing DotA back then are now mostly adults, they can pay their own, they can pay their own Compedium, Skins, Equipments, etc.
That's why Prize Pool is so huge
If I didn't stop playing Dota - I might be a pro by now lmao
I love how Dota is not giving crazy ads to stay relevant for like, I don’t know, 20 years??