I love the duality of gen 1. On one side, you have Snorlax getting almost every single good move in the game, both STAB and non-Stab, while on the other side, you have Aerodactyl with Fly, Wing Attack, and Sky Attack and NO rock type moves
Early gen mono Normal-types in general learn basically everything. I think in a way its kinda cool that in exchange for your STAB not being super effective against anything, you have access to good coverage moves that DO allow you to get super effective damage. Still though yeah, the fossils in general (and even non-Fossils like Scyther) have the most inexplicably garbage movepools. These Pokemon don't even get STAB for their other type (there are some Pokemon that have this issue too like Gyarados but that has an insane movepool regardless and people speculate it was once an actual Dragon-type at some point). Then you have even more tragic cases like Pinsir that don't learn any STAB moves at all.
Fun fact: Snorlax had a 96% usage rate in gen 2 OU. For reference landorus-t has only 44% in gen 8 OU and still manages to be the most annoying pokemon
While true you got to remember that there are 5 times as many pokemon in G8 than G2. Even if all of those aren't allowed in the OU format the numbers are still fudged in Snolax's favor anyway.
Snorlax is an absolute monster. I have fond memories of abusing the resttalk/curse moveset for competitive wifi battles. Literally one of the best Pokémon I've ever used.
It's one of the Gen 1 Competitive Big Three for a reason. Of course, in competitive battles, all Pokémon are LvL 50 (or is it LvL 100 in RBY?) and can learn their entire movesets without having to do anything for it. Meaning, competitive advantage isn't necessarily indicative of being good in a solo run of the base game. See: Tauros as a good example.
@@AhsimNreiziev To be fair, that’s mostly because Tauros is Safari zone exclusive and has a stupid Flee Rate on top of a 1% encounter rate. If it were available more normally around that point in the game, it would be way better. Hell, even if it weren’t until the burned out mansion, it would make a solid 6th ranger for your team at that point
@@AhsimNreiziev That's because most of the time, the developers didn't expect people to start using these pokemon early in the game. E.g. Tauros, Chansey, Exeggcute, etc are safari zone exclusive, and they only start learning moves at like.. lv 25-30, because the developers didn't expect people would use them in idk... vs brock or at the start... so they didn't find it necessary to add moves until much later. So Tauros is stuck with tackle for like.. 20 levels. Same goes for the legendaries.. they don't learn moves until lv 50 for the same reason. Developers didn't expect them to be used much earlier.
Snorlax is one of the best Pokemon for in-game playthroughs in almost every game you can get it in. Reliable combo of good bulk and power and a good movepool. Even if its not the competitive god it once was, at least that part holds true.
One reason why XY is held to be easy despite the Gym Leaders actually using strategy and decent teams, the game keeps handing you tactical nukes incredibly early such as Snorlax.
@@autobotstarscream765 Ehm, doesn't the last leader have 3 pokemon, one of which doesn't even have 4 moves? "Decent teams" and "strategy" aren't two words that come to mind to me when XY is mentioned at least.
@@VultureSausage I'm not counting Drunk Santa, I think he just stumbled in and started chucking Pokémon at people. Not to mention the Clown Champion that would probably get dumpstered by the early Leaders if they used post-game rematch teams. 🤡
@@autobotstarscream765 I don't think Diantha is that bad. Objectively, her team is solid. If she replaced the free OHKO that is Aurourus and one of her dragon types, I'd think she'd be okay
@Cherry! Yeah, but she lives in a Region with a bunch of living WMDs lying around, so a lot of people were probably disappointed that she wasn't stronger than Cynthia and pushing players to squeeze the most out of their super-Pokémon.
Confusion is a *volatile* condition because it will recover on its own over time or a switch, and can coexist with other ailments. Non-volatile are the ones that show up in your status bar and are, as the name suggests, more permanent.
Jrose11: "Gen 1 did something kinda weird." *multiple audience members gasp and faint in reaction to this shocking news* xD Love the videos and I'm happy to see the month of Jrose in full swing!!
Jrose I don't really know how to describe the way your gen 1 videos make me return to the days I was a kid. This content is sooo god lad, keep it going!!
I think the idea of status immunities in gen I had more to do with poison Pokemon not being poisoned, fire Pokemon not being burned, and ice Pokemon not being frozen than it did with electric Pokemon being paralyzed.
Nah, poison was already hard-coded to not affect poison types because there are non damaging poison inflicting attacks. I was probably more that Burn and freeze only had damaging attacks that statused and it wouldn't make sense to get burned or frozen from a secondary affect. I bet if Will-o-Wisp was in Gen 1 they would've caught the oversight the moment a ghost pokemon burned a Fire type.
@@DisplayThisOkay In gen II fire types can be burned and ice types can be frozen from tri attack. Steel types can also be poisoned by twineedle. They didn’t catch those lol. I guess both of those moves are fairly rare though. But they probably just didn’t care enough to fix it as it’s a pretty rare event.
The code in question doesn't affect the poison status (Poison-types being immune is hardcoded), it only affects burn, freeze, and paralysis. The paralysis part of this got removed in Gen 2 but burn/freeze stayed, which is why Tri Attack can burn Fire types and freeze Ice types in Gen 2. Anyway, they DID choose to add paralysis to this, so clearly they did intend some type-immunity to paralysis just like with burn/freeze. My best guess is that they originally only had paralysis as a secondary effect on electric moves just like with burn/freeze, which would make Electric types functionally immune, but then added moves like Body Slam and Lick later.
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13:48 Yeah that's actually true. I don't know much about the competitive scene for older generations, but RBY is an exception for me. Memory is a bit hazy, but the scene learned of Body Slam not paralyzing some time between 2010-2012. Even to this today a lot of RBY battles are done through emulation, which back then didn't have some unique quirks to the game (like not being able to heal at very specific numbers, they learned that years after Body Slam paralysis). Someone in the community was playing through a copy of Red or Blue and fought one of the Snorlaxes using Body Slam. The Snorlax knew Rest so it took a while to complete the battle, and the whole time it never got paralyzed. So the player attempted to emulate the scenario but found that Snorlax was getting paralyzed. So they essentially jailbreaked their game so that all normal types couldn't take damage and knew Body Slam. When they ran their tests, not once did a normal type get paralyzed. They showed their findings to the RBY scene, and not long after emulators were updated Competitive RBY is a rollercoaster of updates, man. Even these past few months sleep-inducing moves (except for I think Rest) got banned in the lower tiers and that is shaking up everything. Fun time to be had, personally recommend trying it out.
The fun part of all of this is that Stadium 2 has a section where they explained that, in Gen 1, Pokémon could not be statused by damaging moves of their own type. And yet, no one even suspected of this.
@@anaussie213 No, that's different. Fire-types cannot be burnt at all, regardless of the move. What happened in Gen I is that if, for example, there were a Fire-type move that could paralyze, it would NEVER paralyze a Fire-type Pokémon. Another example is how Thundershock, Thunderbolt or Thunder cannot paralyze an Electric-type even though they could be paralyzed in Gen I.
7:33 for anyone wondering why it can't paralyze, in the gen 1 games the way secondary status effects (like body slam's para, or lick's para, ice beam's freeze, etc) work is that the game first does a check to see if the target pokemon is the same type as the move, and if so then the secondary effect will never apply. For moves like Lick and Ice Beam, it works as intended, making Ghost types unable to be paralyzed by Lick, and Ice types unable to be frozen by Ice Beam (or any other ice move). However In the case of Body Slam, it becomes unable to paralyze any normal type pokemon. Just another one of the many oversights in the gen 1 games EDIT: oh he explains it a couple of minutes later... thats on me he didn't explain it right after so I assumed he forgot to mention it
It's not actually an oversight, but a way to save memory space. Part of the reason Gen 1 is so glitchy is because they also had to remove sanity checks (such as whether a pokemon actually exists when initiating a battle) for memory space issues.
It's not an oversight. It was completely intentional because it also works that way in Stadium 1, and the fact it's now different is mentioned in Stadium 2. Now WHY they did it that way... is another story entirely.
@@llSuperSnivyll Most likely, the reason is just that most status conditions are tied to a single type (Burn to Fire, Frozen to Ice, Paralysis to Electric, Poison to Poison), and they realized it would make sense for, for instance, a Fire-type to be incapable of getting burned and a Poison-type to be incapable of getting poisoned, but they didn't want to code every single exception, so they just went with a flat "if Pokemon is [Type X], then status conditions tied to moves of [Type X] don't work." Which broadly makes sense; they just didn't realize it plays weirdly with a move that inflicts a status condition and isn't as blatantly elemental. An Electric-type being incapable of getting paralyzed by Thunderbolt makes sense; a Normal-type being incapable of getting paralyzed by Body Slam, not so much.
Hey JRose, thanks for remembering us hardcore red and blue watchers during your celebration of the newly released game. You're a mensch. Also, WOOOOOO SNORLAX!
Great run! And I'm fascinated you published a Scarlet video already yesterday! It is saved to my watch list, but I will watch it only after beating the Elite 4 myself in Scarlet :)
So happy to see a Pokemon Gen 1 run! No offense to Scarlet fans, I hope you have a blast playing it. But I couldn't care less about it XD I was worried this month was going to be all Scarlet/Violet from Jrose but this makes me happy :)
Your arrogance in Snorlax's power made you *weak.* You relied on it, you coasted on it, you crippled your own ability to use him as a crutch. There are no weak Pokemon, only weak trainers. Nice vid, glad to see Snorlax's time to shine!
Fuck if JROSE doesn’t produce high quality content, it’s been about a year and boy have i slept better with this childhoodesque videos. I know it’s an old one but I can never express enough the value this series has brought to my life.
I love to see new Gen 1 content, Jrose! I've watched every single one of these with my 9 year old son. I've also had quite a few going in my earbuds while welding at work. Thanks for the quality content you put out. My son and I are both anxiously awaiting a growlithe or arcanine run. Other creators have uploaded these runs but they lack that signature Jrose style that we've come to love... please tell me that at least one of these pokemon will be making an appearance during the month of videos?
Hey Jrose! Greetings from Portugal! Another awsome run man, congrats! You know, I've watched every one of your gen1 solo runs since the beginning of the pandemic and today I've had a devilish idea. You know how you say they are solo runs but need a few extra pokemon for the HM moves? Well how about a gen1 run where you can only use one pokemon? No HM slaves? I know of at least one pokemon you could try a run with! Best of luck! 😈😂
Yes, Amnesia Snorlax is indeed very good, it even does well in competitive Pokemon so no badge boost glitches and whatnot, albeit as more of a bait and switch as his main setup is the Physical one, which is what opponents typically expect. With that said, Slowbro also has Amnesia, and a slightly better Special stat and access to nearly as many good moves as Snorlax. He's missing Thunderbolt for example but with only 3 attack moves available(Amnesia being the 4th) there are better options. Also STAB Psychic is better than STAB Body Slam Imho, in fact I don't think either setups should use Body Slam at all, their only Physical move should be Earthquake which they both have access to. So with Earthquake, Psychic and Icebeam/Blizzard, which is the best setup Imho, Slowbro has 1 STAB move while Snorlax has 0.
Based on the video length it's around the same length as Gengar and Mew, which looks really good for Snorlax to get a good time. I'm expecting mid-top tier given it's bulky enough to tank a few blows and able to deal quite a bit of damage back making it very flexible/able to exploit the badge boost glitch more than most.
Excited for the month of Jrose!!! I love the idea of switching things up this month, please have fun with this & do what's interesting for you with this opportunity!
hurray! I couldnt enjoy the last video very much, cause I never played that game, but good old red/blue; sign me up everyday! great stuff brother :-) also my prediction before watching the video: I think snorlax will land behind alakazam and gengar, but close and it will be a pretty smooth ride, after brock of course, since I assume snorlax does only know a normal move to start.
We came to very similar conclusions lol I did a Snorlax run myself today and thought "It's crazy to get rid of its STAB move...but it makes so much sense lol) I did slap Blizzard on it instead of Ice Beam towards the end impulsively because I was a bit nervous on the potential ranges (I switched out Body Slam long before you did and EQ was slightly disappointing at times lol) but ya...very similar.
@@avatarmufasa3628 Starmie will most likely break records! I've played Kanto enough times with it to know that with the right moveset it'll destroy the Kanto region
@@tylerhartman3034 I think Starmie's going to disappoint to be honest. I'm sure he'll be great and be in the A tier but I think he'll fall short of Gengar and Alakazam. The issue is he only learns water gun which isn't a great move so I suspect everything between Pewter to Cerulean will be quite slow including misty. I could be wrong, I guess I'll wait and see.
@@MotherBra1n watergun still destroys brock and starmie like the others has great speed (which always just helps times). Watergun should be relatively fast and power through pewter to cerulean. Alakazam had confusion which i guess is 10 more base power (though alakazam has higher special too), but i dont think itll be too impactful on the run. Really only misty will be hard, maybe could lose to surge if he thunderbolts. But those are the only 2 places where misty could fall short and otherwise has a way better movepool than either gengar or alakazam And we already have staryu's run, so we know that starmie is going to outperform this, and when you see what difficulties staryu had, starmie seems to have the answers in each case. For example, brock where staryu didnt have watergun. By level 50, starmie has like 30 more hp, special and speed. and defence goes up by 40, so thats a lot of extra bulk And to back it up starmie has a great matchup against elite 4 Thunderbolt against lorelie, Psychic for bruno, psychic for agatha, ice beam for alakazam. And no starter can resist those moves either, i guess he picks venasaur as the enemy (as starmie is water) but thats weak to ice beam too
@@avatarmufasa3628 the issue with the comparison to the staryu run is that Staryu was overlevelled by the time Brock had been defeated (level 17) whereas Starmie will probably only be level 8 after Brock (assuming he'll stick to minimum battles), then you have to factor in the fact that Starmie levels up slower than Staryu. Also remember that Alakazam could learn dig which helped against Misty's Starmie. It's possible tackle will be better against Misty's starmie than water gun but then if she uses an X defend (quite likely) it'll be even slower. As for the elite 4 I've no doubt Starmie will breeze through that, I'd be surprised if it isn't a first try victory.
Snorlax run, huh? I can see why it's only half an hour long, since Snorlax it's a monster. And that's considering it's a Gen 1 run. A Gen 2 one with this dude would be simply overkill
The A-tier is approximately the "under 3:30 tier" and the B-tier is approximately the "4 hours but still good tier." Snorlax is sorta in the middle of these two by statistics, so bottom of the A-tier makes sense given its narrow exclusion otherwise.
13:50 It's actually so that Fire/Poison/Ice-types can't get Burned/Poisoned/Frozen via secondary effects. Body Slam not paralyzing Normal-types is a side-effect, as well as offensive electric moves not paralyzing Electric-types. Not sure if Bug-types are able to be poisoned via Twin Needle or not.
I remember resetting at the elite four gates because I didn’t have Erika’s gym badge. Silly in hindsight, but I was a kid so whatever lol. Devastating when I got back to her gym and realized that’s what I was missing. From that moment I never forgot lol.
Snorlax doesn't do anything fast surely! But its move pool is one of the absolute best in RBY Are there literally any others in RBY (aside from Mew) that get Blizzard, Thunderbolt, Earthquake and Psychic? This will be an interesting watch though Can we get a Doduo solo run soon please? I feel the little two headed bird is neglected and overlooked
Moving 2nd all the time is always going to cause time loss just from each opponent making their move. Then add the status on it and it can quickly add up.
Ahhh Snorlax. Didn't even think about it even though it's almost always apart of my team. Probably my favorite Normal type with Lickitung and Khangaskan
I love the duality of gen 1. On one side, you have Snorlax getting almost every single good move in the game, both STAB and non-Stab, while on the other side, you have Aerodactyl with Fly, Wing Attack, and Sky Attack and NO rock type moves
Sky attack is a gen 1 move?
@@RK-cj4oc Pidgeot literally uses it at 29:29
@@Hadaron Im watching the comments while watching mate. Not there yet. Just surprised sky attack is gen 1.
I usually joke that you can tell when in development a gen 1 pokemon was made based on if it has inexplicable coverage or only normal-type moves
Early gen mono Normal-types in general learn basically everything. I think in a way its kinda cool that in exchange for your STAB not being super effective against anything, you have access to good coverage moves that DO allow you to get super effective damage.
Still though yeah, the fossils in general (and even non-Fossils like Scyther) have the most inexplicably garbage movepools. These Pokemon don't even get STAB for their other type (there are some Pokemon that have this issue too like Gyarados but that has an insane movepool regardless and people speculate it was once an actual Dragon-type at some point). Then you have even more tragic cases like Pinsir that don't learn any STAB moves at all.
Honestly buddy, you have no idea how happy it makes me to open youtube and see a fresh GEN 1 upload from you. Please keep up the great work.
Idk if everyone will be gen 1 but we are being blessed with a new vid everyday. It feels like ive died and went to heaven
and there will be more this month
For real something about watching these Gen 1 runs make me realize that life is worth living sometimes
Agreed 100%
Stuck in hospital….you have no idea how refreshing it is to see jrose win with a teddy bear.
FINALLY THE SNORLAX RUN! Here we go!
We have been waiting for this for years. Finally!!!
Finally! So pumped!
Ye finally
Was hopin for that
Snorlax dont run .. lets move at a briss pace
I'm looking forward to the Starmie run even more!
Gotta hand it to Giovanni, he really stepped up his game for this run!
Should had kept the Kangaskhan :P
@@Djuntas boooo, you're comment was shit, boooo.
He really should’ve
"Chill defeated Anxiety!"
If only it were that easy. :(
Fun fact: Snorlax had a 96% usage rate in gen 2 OU. For reference landorus-t has only 44% in gen 8 OU and still manages to be the most annoying pokemon
And that 96% is basically a 100%, because some matches ended with the winner not revealing their Snorlax.
Gen 2 Snorlax is insane.
It literally destroyed legendaries, Mewtwo stood no chance
While true you got to remember that there are 5 times as many pokemon in G8 than G2. Even if all of those aren't allowed in the OU format the numbers are still fudged in Snolax's favor anyway.
@@darkfiredragon3410 Not to mention, its "assumed" (actual) 100% usage, this gives Snorlax a 50/50 W/L.
Other fun fact: it's ranked 1st in GSC Ubers, ahead of Mewtwo, Mew, etc.
Snorlax is an absolute monster. I have fond memories of abusing the resttalk/curse moveset for competitive wifi battles. Literally one of the best Pokémon I've ever used.
It's one of the Gen 1 Competitive Big Three for a reason.
Of course, in competitive battles, all Pokémon are LvL 50 (or is it LvL 100 in RBY?) and can learn their entire movesets without having to do anything for it. Meaning, competitive advantage isn't necessarily indicative of being good in a solo run of the base game. See: Tauros as a good example.
@@AhsimNreiziev True, but most of its power comes from its bulk, attack stat, and TMs. That usually makes for a good solo run.
Snorlax is the king of the gen 2 OU Metagame. Tauros is the king of the gen 1 OU Metagame.
@@AhsimNreiziev
To be fair, that’s mostly because Tauros is Safari zone exclusive and has a stupid Flee Rate on top of a 1% encounter rate. If it were available more normally around that point in the game, it would be way better. Hell, even if it weren’t until the burned out mansion, it would make a solid 6th ranger for your team at that point
@@AhsimNreiziev That's because most of the time, the developers didn't expect people to start using these pokemon early in the game.
E.g. Tauros, Chansey, Exeggcute, etc are safari zone exclusive, and they only start learning moves at like.. lv 25-30, because the developers didn't expect people would use them in idk... vs brock or at the start... so they didn't find it necessary to add moves until much later. So Tauros is stuck with tackle for like.. 20 levels.
Same goes for the legendaries.. they don't learn moves until lv 50 for the same reason. Developers didn't expect them to be used much earlier.
"Awake, confused, and almost defeated"
That hit hard ;_;
You doing alright?
Snorlax is one of the best Pokemon for in-game playthroughs in almost every game you can get it in. Reliable combo of good bulk and power and a good movepool. Even if its not the competitive god it once was, at least that part holds true.
One reason why XY is held to be easy despite the Gym Leaders actually using strategy and decent teams, the game keeps handing you tactical nukes incredibly early such as Snorlax.
@@autobotstarscream765 Ehm, doesn't the last leader have 3 pokemon, one of which doesn't even have 4 moves? "Decent teams" and "strategy" aren't two words that come to mind to me when XY is mentioned at least.
@@VultureSausage I'm not counting Drunk Santa, I think he just stumbled in and started chucking Pokémon at people.
Not to mention the Clown Champion that would probably get dumpstered by the early Leaders if they used post-game rematch teams. 🤡
@@autobotstarscream765 I don't think Diantha is that bad. Objectively, her team is solid. If she replaced the free OHKO that is Aurourus and one of her dragon types, I'd think she'd be okay
@Cherry! Yeah, but she lives in a Region with a bunch of living WMDs lying around, so a lot of people were probably disappointed that she wasn't stronger than Cynthia and pushing players to squeeze the most out of their super-Pokémon.
"Snorlax, what would you say is the key to your success?"
"Basically, am very larg"
25:52 It was either a speed tie or Hitmonchan went for counter, a reduced priority move. But this was a fantastic run!
Confusion is a *volatile* condition because it will recover on its own over time or a switch, and can coexist with other ailments. Non-volatile are the ones that show up in your status bar and are, as the name suggests, more permanent.
Amnesia, Ice Beam, Rest, Body Slam was my go to Snorlax set back in the day. So powerful and durable it's ridiculous.
Jrose11: "Gen 1 did something kinda weird."
*multiple audience members gasp and faint in reaction to this shocking news* xD
Love the videos and I'm happy to see the month of Jrose in full swing!!
I'll have to watch this later, but I just did a Yellow playthrough and chose to use Snorlax on a whim. I was startled by how powerful its ATK is!
Hell yes, long live Jrose and his pokemon challenges!!!!
Jrose I don't really know how to describe the way your gen 1 videos make me return to the days I was a kid. This content is sooo god lad, keep it going!!
I think the idea of status immunities in gen I had more to do with poison Pokemon not being poisoned, fire Pokemon not being burned, and ice Pokemon not being frozen than it did with electric Pokemon being paralyzed.
Nah, poison was already hard-coded to not affect poison types because there are non damaging poison inflicting attacks. I was probably more that Burn and freeze only had damaging attacks that statused and it wouldn't make sense to get burned or frozen from a secondary affect. I bet if Will-o-Wisp was in Gen 1 they would've caught the oversight the moment a ghost pokemon burned a Fire type.
@@DisplayThisOkay
In gen II fire types can be burned and ice types can be frozen from tri attack. Steel types can also be poisoned by twineedle. They didn’t catch those lol. I guess both of those moves are fairly rare though. But they probably just didn’t care enough to fix it as it’s a pretty rare event.
The code in question doesn't affect the poison status (Poison-types being immune is hardcoded), it only affects burn, freeze, and paralysis. The paralysis part of this got removed in Gen 2 but burn/freeze stayed, which is why Tri Attack can burn Fire types and freeze Ice types in Gen 2. Anyway, they DID choose to add paralysis to this, so clearly they did intend some type-immunity to paralysis just like with burn/freeze. My best guess is that they originally only had paralysis as a secondary effect on electric moves just like with burn/freeze, which would make Electric types functionally immune, but then added moves like Body Slam and Lick later.
@@DisplayThisOkay Will-O-Wisp is Fire type, though.
It's mostly naturally on Ghost-types, yes, but it's not a Ghost-type move.
@@Dukstless I know that's why i wrote ghost pokemon and not ghost type.
Jrose11
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Is this the perfect RUclips channel? I think so
Underrated comment, wish more channels were like that
Unfortunately all those channels are broke. 😂
Hey Jrose. I just wanna say that you are killing it with all the videos
13:48 Yeah that's actually true. I don't know much about the competitive scene for older generations, but RBY is an exception for me. Memory is a bit hazy, but the scene learned of Body Slam not paralyzing some time between 2010-2012. Even to this today a lot of RBY battles are done through emulation, which back then didn't have some unique quirks to the game (like not being able to heal at very specific numbers, they learned that years after Body Slam paralysis). Someone in the community was playing through a copy of Red or Blue and fought one of the Snorlaxes using Body Slam. The Snorlax knew Rest so it took a while to complete the battle, and the whole time it never got paralyzed. So the player attempted to emulate the scenario but found that Snorlax was getting paralyzed. So they essentially jailbreaked their game so that all normal types couldn't take damage and knew Body Slam. When they ran their tests, not once did a normal type get paralyzed. They showed their findings to the RBY scene, and not long after emulators were updated
Competitive RBY is a rollercoaster of updates, man. Even these past few months sleep-inducing moves (except for I think Rest) got banned in the lower tiers and that is shaking up everything. Fun time to be had, personally recommend trying it out.
The fun part of all of this is that Stadium 2 has a section where they explained that, in Gen 1, Pokémon could not be statused by damaging moves of their own type. And yet, no one even suspected of this.
@@llSuperSnivyllI have a vague recollection of knowing that as a kid (fire Pokémon can't be burnt, for example).
@@anaussie213 No, that's different. Fire-types cannot be burnt at all, regardless of the move.
What happened in Gen I is that if, for example, there were a Fire-type move that could paralyze, it would NEVER paralyze a Fire-type Pokémon.
Another example is how Thundershock, Thunderbolt or Thunder cannot paralyze an Electric-type even though they could be paralyzed in Gen I.
30:21 Prof. Oak: "CHILL!" 😂
(Because you clearly were not chilling with your Snorlax.)
light on my sight as my ego becomes
This is the best thing I could have found getting off work. I’m so excited for snorlax. You are a savior jrose
I'm waiting for the random Gen 1 solo where Jrose just whips out Pokemon Green and pronounces every Pokemon, trainer, and move by their Japanese names
Jrose single-handedly defeating anxiety what a guy
7:33 for anyone wondering why it can't paralyze, in the gen 1 games the way secondary status effects (like body slam's para, or lick's para, ice beam's freeze, etc) work is that the game first does a check to see if the target pokemon is the same type as the move, and if so then the secondary effect will never apply. For moves like Lick and Ice Beam, it works as intended, making Ghost types unable to be paralyzed by Lick, and Ice types unable to be frozen by Ice Beam (or any other ice move). However In the case of Body Slam, it becomes unable to paralyze any normal type pokemon. Just another one of the many oversights in the gen 1 games
EDIT: oh he explains it a couple of minutes later... thats on me he didn't explain it right after so I assumed he forgot to mention it
It's not actually an oversight, but a way to save memory space. Part of the reason Gen 1 is so glitchy is because they also had to remove sanity checks (such as whether a pokemon actually exists when initiating a battle) for memory space issues.
Wait how is not intended with Body Slam? Seems to be working just how they planned like how a ghost like one can’t be paralyzed by lick.
@@Begeru It's meant to be able to paralyze normal types, atleast that's how it's worked in every other gen since.
It's not an oversight. It was completely intentional because it also works that way in Stadium 1, and the fact it's now different is mentioned in Stadium 2.
Now WHY they did it that way... is another story entirely.
@@llSuperSnivyll Most likely, the reason is just that most status conditions are tied to a single type (Burn to Fire, Frozen to Ice, Paralysis to Electric, Poison to Poison), and they realized it would make sense for, for instance, a Fire-type to be incapable of getting burned and a Poison-type to be incapable of getting poisoned, but they didn't want to code every single exception, so they just went with a flat "if Pokemon is [Type X], then status conditions tied to moves of [Type X] don't work." Which broadly makes sense; they just didn't realize it plays weirdly with a move that inflicts a status condition and isn't as blatantly elemental. An Electric-type being incapable of getting paralyzed by Thunderbolt makes sense; a Normal-type being incapable of getting paralyzed by Body Slam, not so much.
Ive been waiting for a Snorlax run. Thank you so much. Great video as always.
Ah! That's crazy! Can't wait to watch this run!! I'm really excited for the starmie run :)
Ah yes, this is going to be good surely?
"Sees 30min video." "probably"
@@skipspik1571 almost 32 minutes really
Literally, ONE SECOND away from 32 minutes
this month is about to be lit between your videos and world cup. Love the vids
The only thing I’d stop playing the new Pokémon for is to watch you play the old one!
Hey JRose, thanks for remembering us hardcore red and blue watchers during your celebration of the newly released game. You're a mensch. Also, WOOOOOO SNORLAX!
Great run! And I'm fascinated you published a Scarlet video already yesterday! It is saved to my watch list, but I will watch it only after beating the Elite 4 myself in Scarlet :)
Aside from Tauros I was always curious about starting the game with an oh-so elusive *Pinsir* ...
25:30 Bruno Twono? Rival Fiveal wasn't enough, Jrose? I think you miss The Count.
Are you really going to let Lieutenant Surge command a Cruise Ship?
That's a specialized job, and he's just a lieutenant.
So happy to see a Pokemon Gen 1 run!
No offense to Scarlet fans, I hope you have a blast playing it. But I couldn't care less about it XD
I was worried this month was going to be all Scarlet/Violet from Jrose but this makes me happy :)
Nope no other videos planned.
@@Jrose11 Make all the videos you like man :)
Your arrogance in Snorlax's power made you *weak.*
You relied on it, you coasted on it, you crippled your own ability to use him as a crutch.
There are no weak Pokemon, only weak trainers.
Nice vid, glad to see Snorlax's time to shine!
Perfectly timed for me to watch before bed! So excited for Jrose month!
Fuck if JROSE doesn’t produce high quality content, it’s been about a year and boy have i slept better with this childhoodesque videos.
I know it’s an old one but I can never express enough the value this series has brought to my life.
I love to see new Gen 1 content, Jrose! I've watched every single one of these with my 9 year old son. I've also had quite a few going in my earbuds while welding at work. Thanks for the quality content you put out.
My son and I are both anxiously awaiting a growlithe or arcanine run. Other creators have uploaded these runs but they lack that signature Jrose style that we've come to love... please tell me that at least one of these pokemon will be making an appearance during the month of videos?
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Poor cruise ship waiter surge…he was having a decent few runs getting some wins
JRose: "The only thing Lieutenant Surge is going to be able to command is a cruise ship!"
Me: "So he'll get promoted to Captain?"
Finally! Snorlax has always been my favorite Pokemon!
Hey Jrose! Greetings from Portugal! Another awsome run man, congrats! You know, I've watched every one of your gen1 solo runs since the beginning of the pandemic and today I've had a devilish idea. You know how you say they are solo runs but need a few extra pokemon for the HM moves?
Well how about a gen1 run where you can only use one pokemon? No HM slaves? I know of at least one pokemon you could try a run with!
Best of luck! 😈😂
Yes, Amnesia Snorlax is indeed very good, it even does well in competitive Pokemon so no badge boost glitches and whatnot, albeit as more of a bait and switch as his main setup is the Physical one, which is what opponents typically expect. With that said, Slowbro also has Amnesia, and a slightly better Special stat and access to nearly as many good moves as Snorlax. He's missing Thunderbolt for example but with only 3 attack moves available(Amnesia being the 4th) there are better options. Also STAB Psychic is better than STAB Body Slam Imho, in fact I don't think either setups should use Body Slam at all, their only Physical move should be Earthquake which they both have access to. So with Earthquake, Psychic and Icebeam/Blizzard, which is the best setup Imho, Slowbro has 1 STAB move while Snorlax has 0.
I fuckin' love me some Snorlax. And your stuff is always fantastic, I love listening to it while I work.
Snorlax is amazing with Earthquake. You got me playing Gen 1 again and I taught it Earthquake for the first time lol
Based on the video length it's around the same length as Gengar and Mew, which looks really good for Snorlax to get a good time. I'm expecting mid-top tier given it's bulky enough to tank a few blows and able to deal quite a bit of damage back making it very flexible/able to exploit the badge boost glitch more than most.
Wow, one of your best challenges I've s'en in a while.
Keep going ! You have a great idea of a way to revisit the former gens.
I just picture Snorlax hitting his head on every Pokémon he fights in the beginning with Headbutt 😂
I’m so pumped for the month of videos!
My favourite videos to just relax watch and get stuff done. Jrose you never disappoint
Excited for the month of Jrose!!! I love the idea of switching things up this month, please have fun with this & do what's interesting for you with this opportunity!
SNOOOOOORlax is going to be HUGE. A giant unstoppable beast!
hurray! I couldnt enjoy the last video very much, cause I never played that game, but good old red/blue; sign me up everyday!
great stuff brother :-)
also my prediction before watching the video: I think snorlax will land behind alakazam and gengar, but close and it will be a pretty smooth ride, after brock of course, since I assume snorlax does only know a normal move to start.
Snorlax has always been my defensive anchor on my team in the games
The run we’ve all been waiting for is finally here!
Love the month of Jrose. Keep up the great work!
Games you played way too much? Not even enough for my liking (at least on video!) thanks as always for the great video, jay!
Finally, every single rby big three member has a run dedicated to it.
I'm so excited to finally see my favourite Pokemon in one of these runs! Keep up the good work :D
Snorlax ate every TM
I dont know if this is possible but what about Missigno solo run?
Snorlax being slow and you having to sit through enemy text prompts really hurt him in the end from a time standpoint.
Been waiting for this hope it's a good one. Top tier I expect
We came to very similar conclusions lol I did a Snorlax run myself today and thought "It's crazy to get rid of its STAB move...but it makes so much sense lol) I did slap Blizzard on it instead of Ice Beam towards the end impulsively because I was a bit nervous on the potential ranges (I switched out Body Slam long before you did and EQ was slightly disappointing at times lol) but ya...very similar.
So does this mean we're FINALLY getting that Starmie run!? 🙏
really hope so, looking at the move list and bit more power. many of the issues with staryu seem to be fixed with starmie
@@avatarmufasa3628 Starmie will most likely break records! I've played Kanto enough times with it to know that with the right moveset it'll destroy the Kanto region
@@tylerhartman3034 I think Starmie's going to disappoint to be honest. I'm sure he'll be great and be in the A tier but I think he'll fall short of Gengar and Alakazam. The issue is he only learns water gun which isn't a great move so I suspect everything between Pewter to Cerulean will be quite slow including misty. I could be wrong, I guess I'll wait and see.
@@MotherBra1n watergun still destroys brock and starmie like the others has great speed (which always just helps times).
Watergun should be relatively fast and power through pewter to cerulean. Alakazam had confusion which i guess is 10 more base power (though alakazam has higher special too), but i dont think itll be too impactful on the run. Really only misty will be hard, maybe could lose to surge if he thunderbolts. But those are the only 2 places where misty could fall short and otherwise has a way better movepool than either gengar or alakazam
And we already have staryu's run, so we know that starmie is going to outperform this, and when you see what difficulties staryu had, starmie seems to have the answers in each case. For example, brock where staryu didnt have watergun. By level 50, starmie has like 30 more hp, special and speed. and defence goes up by 40, so thats a lot of extra bulk
And to back it up starmie has a great matchup against elite 4
Thunderbolt against lorelie, Psychic for bruno, psychic for agatha, ice beam for alakazam. And no starter can resist those moves either, i guess he picks venasaur as the enemy (as starmie is water) but thats weak to ice beam too
@@avatarmufasa3628 the issue with the comparison to the staryu run is that Staryu was overlevelled by the time Brock had been defeated (level 17) whereas Starmie will probably only be level 8 after Brock (assuming he'll stick to minimum battles), then you have to factor in the fact that Starmie levels up slower than Staryu.
Also remember that Alakazam could learn dig which helped against Misty's Starmie. It's possible tackle will be better against Misty's starmie than water gun but then if she uses an X defend (quite likely) it'll be even slower.
As for the elite 4 I've no doubt Starmie will breeze through that, I'd be surprised if it isn't a first try victory.
Finally snorlax! Ive been waiting so long. Going to enjoy this like a fine wine 🍷
Snorlax run, huh? I can see why it's only half an hour long, since Snorlax it's a monster. And that's considering it's a Gen 1 run. A Gen 2 one with this dude would be simply overkill
The A-tier is approximately the "under 3:30 tier" and the B-tier is approximately the "4 hours but still good tier." Snorlax is sorta in the middle of these two by statistics, so bottom of the A-tier makes sense given its narrow exclusion otherwise.
I'm surprised you haven't done it until now, interested to see how it's gonna go
everytime i am going to sleep.. i watch your videos. it is not a bad thing, i love pokemon and played since gen 1... everything is perfect..
You have no idea how much I love these videos. Thanks Jrose! ❤
FINALLY my favorite pokemon. Lets see how Snorlax does! Thanks for the uploads Jrose; hope you are having a great day :)
Here we are watching a month of likely easy videos, presumably he stock pile-d a bunch of these ahead of time.
Lol, ya Feebas is *really* easy.
Snorlax being god is alternate title
Excited for a whole month of JRose!
Love your gen one videos honnestly I'm so happy you annouced your one video a day for one month
Very much liking the month of jrose so far.
13:50 It's actually so that Fire/Poison/Ice-types can't get Burned/Poisoned/Frozen via secondary effects. Body Slam not paralyzing Normal-types is a side-effect, as well as offensive electric moves not paralyzing Electric-types.
Not sure if Bug-types are able to be poisoned via Twin Needle or not.
I'm watching this for the 2nd time 😅
I remember resetting at the elite four gates because I didn’t have Erika’s gym badge. Silly in hindsight, but I was a kid so whatever lol. Devastating when I got back to her gym and realized that’s what I was missing. From that moment I never forgot lol.
What a great video. I greatly enjoyed joke you made during the third gym it gets me every time 😂
I have been waiting a very long time for this, my big, round friend.
Normal types were so OP in Gen 1.
Yeah, people always talk about how broken psychic types are, but normal types are honestly even better
@@marowakcity3727 Idk, both are incredible.
7:45 "Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer."
And we get to my spirit animal, Snorlax... I reckon this is going to be a very interesting run.
Sweet!! Everyone’s been waiting for this!
Snorlax doesn't do anything fast surely!
But its move pool is one of the absolute best in RBY
Are there literally any others in RBY (aside from Mew) that get Blizzard, Thunderbolt, Earthquake and Psychic?
This will be an interesting watch though
Can we get a Doduo solo run soon please?
I feel the little two headed bird is neglected and overlooked
Nidoking I think
@@8bitalex Nidoking does not get Psychic
@@adamh2900oh my bad
Moving 2nd all the time is always going to cause time loss just from each opponent making their move. Then add the status on it and it can quickly add up.
Ahhh Snorlax. Didn't even think about it even though it's almost always apart of my team. Probably my favorite Normal type with Lickitung and Khangaskan
Not surprised how great Snorlax is, so excited for the month of Jrose! Keep up the great work 😃
Yay a new Jrose video
I knew this bad boy was coming.
This thing with body slam could do my job better than I ever could.
Yay a game that isn't 5 FPS 🙃
The only exception to the Same Type Status Rule, is Psychic Types with Hypnosis
Back to the best Pokemon games. Don't waste your time on the new garbage ones.
Man oh man back to back JRose uploads. And they're Fuecoco and Snorlax.
Christmas was a month early
Been looking forward to this one most of all, glad to see it