Once while in Japan, I left my expensive camera in a taxi that took me back to my hotel late one night. I didn’t even realize it until the next morning when I was leaving the hotel. How? Well, my camera was sitting on a gold platter at the front desk of the lobby. Just sitting there! Out in the open. I pointed to it, and said “Hey, That’s my camera!” to the concierge behind the counter. He just smiled and said “Dozo” gesturing for me to take it. That totally blew my mind. Shit like that always happened to me in Japan. Love Japan.
josh kim Yeah, it should be normal...but I live in New York City. Great city full of great people. However...if you leave something in a cab here...um...I wouldn’t expect to see it again. Sadly.
Gamz Neddyl Dude. You obviously don’t live in NYC.
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Shit like that has happened to me in the USA. I once dropped my wallet out of my jacket pocket riding a motorcycle on a busy road. I thought it was gone forever. Next day, I got a phone call offering to return it. The man came to my address and returned it to me, forgoing any reward at all.
As a Chinese, I don't really understand what's wrong with some people of my country these days. I don't think it's a shame to admit the truth that China does have plenty of bad things. The first step to solve a problem is to admit there is one. And I do think it is pathetic to say that a person is China hater just because he or she pointed out some flaws of this country which do exist. To admit the fact and to make the country better, or to keep denying and change nothing, it's quite clear(at least to me) which choice is really good for the country.
suhani sharma About Eating dogs, there was in China also a very intense debate recently, in which almost the whole society is involved. Some Chinese believe that dogs are no different than other animals such as chicken, pigs or cattle. As long as those dogs are not pets, but raised by those who legally own them, we have no right to interfere in others' choices. The other, especially those who have a dog as pet, on the contrary, think that this tradition increases the possibility that their pets would be stolen and sold to the restaurant. And the way some savage people kill the dogs is extremely cruel. Although most Chinese, especially those who live in the relatively developed area, don't eat dogs, the mainstream thought about this topic is the first one. And they also demand the government to make a law that dogs thieves and animals torture should be punished more toughly.
I see chinese tourist here a lot, and all of'em are noisy and shouting while they talk and also completely ignorant towards others, I don't believe bookish education provides these basic ethics. Culturally I find chinese people to be the poorest in the planet, barring the rural muslims. Ofcourse chinese younger generation who have been exposed to western society try to weave a different story.
stubby wonderkid Yeah.. I know how that feels, especially when you compare Chinese with other tourists for example Japanese, who are extremely quiet when they talk to each others. But actually, they are not necessarily being rude and it's probably just the way they talk. I've heard of a theory that Mandarin sounds somehow extremely annoying to western people. If you got a chance to hear people talk to each other in Cantonese, you would definitely think they both are extremely angry, but they might just talk about a very happy thing... And about the culture stuff, in fact, our traditional culture(like Confucianism) does say a lot about being polite and so on. But those things have been dead for a long time due to the shitty political stuffs from 1949 to 1976. Especially from 1966 to 1976, Chinese destroyed literally everything about the culture. Back then, the life was just about violence and fighting with each other. And the tourists you can see these days are the people who have grown up in such an environment.
as a Chinese, i d say this is very fair comment about Japan and China. we are still far behind japan in terms of the living standard.....China's GDP per capital is still only one third of Japan. this shows everything. The good thing is that all Chinese people know this and keep improving....God bless both China and Japan.. especially for the people. not politicians.
Depends, Japan reminds me a lot of Seattle, my USA hometown, they're both super clean and I love that. The opposite of Hanoi, my Asian "hometown" which is like a human garbage dump.
Thomas Affolter I don't think the population of Seattle can be compared with that of Tokyo or Osaka. Most populated US cities are dirty, at least in downtown, from my own experience.
i once forgot my backpack in subway train and 30 minutes later a subway worker came to me with my backpack and i was 3 stations away, it blew my mind how japanese society is
mongolian50cent WOW. the mbta in Boston will hold it in there main office if they find it. But to go track you down and give it back to you wow so cool!
@@Rays_Bad_Decisions i was on wheelchair so, i think all the stations knew that i needed assistant so all the workers knew all about my stuff when i requested a ramp to get on the subway at first station, when i arrived every stops that i was taking one worker always come and greet me and help me in n out of subway trains
I had a good experience in US during a business trip. While on walk in Napa Valley I lost my wallet with maybe $500 in it in cash as part of business allowance. The next day I got email that police department located my wallet thanks to my business card inside. Somebody kind found it and brought it to police. By that time however I was in southern California already. Police officer was so kind to send the wallet by Fedex. All my money and IDs were there. I was so greatful to kind people over there.
On Chinese Language vs Japanese Language. 1. You can learn conversational Japanese in about 6 weeks, and within six months, you can speaking, ordering and getting into trouble with the best of them. But to read a newspaper requires "kanji" and that's years of study. 2. Chinese is a TONAL language and each tone has a different meaning. There is "rising tone", "falling tone", "rising and falling tone" and so on and so on. I can't hear the tones, so I'll never learn Chinese. I lived in Japan for three years and I spoke it well. I was never "scammed" and in fact, I went to a pachinko parlour once and the yazuka guys let me play for free. Why? he knew that I had no knowledge of how to "cash in" on my pachinko winnings, whatever they were. I returned the tub of pachinko balls, bowed deeply and thanked him. Love your videos, keep up the awesome work!
沖縄 Okinawa. To be fair, Okinawa is NOT really Japan. The Okinawans speak a variety of unique dialects, but Standard Japanese was the only way I could communicate.
Heinrich Beck The Chinese language has been developed for thousands of years. It is really not a very easy language to master. The Chinese language has four tones, which is difficult for foreigners, but if you can learn more about Chinese, you will find Chinese language. It is beautiful. You have learned a lot of Japanese, and there are many words in Japanese that are composed of Chinese characters. You should also find out
Japan has honesty. Unbelievable honesty. About 15 years ago my wife and I visited various places around Kyoto and Nara. We took a tour south from Nara and stayed overnight in a temple in a small mountain town called Yoshinoyama. It had a number of temples and a long row of souvenir shops for the tourists. During the day we walked past all the shops and small stalls looking at the items for sale. Some were very expensive, around $100 or more. We walked past one and the middle aged Japanese lady owner stopped us and tried very hard for us to come inside and have some tea with her. Her English was quite good. We were very hesitant thinking she was trying to hard sell us something we did not want, but eventually we succumbed and went inside. Wonderful experience! She made Japanese tea, and sat with us for half an hour showing some of her photo albums from when she went to various western countries. We did not see any other westerners in that town during our whole stay so we must have been an attraction for her to have someone interesting with whom to talk. Then came the "hard sell". She brought out a beautiful box and in it were two hand made, exquisite porcelain horse figures which she was offering to us. We said we did not want to buy and apologized feeling a bit guilty, but she said "No, no. Please take it as a gift. My late husband made it and I want you to have it as a memory". We were flabbergasted at her generosity. Later that night after we had a fabulous dinner, we decided to go for a walk. It was after 10pm and the streets were dark with only a few street lights. Everyone was gone. The streets were empty. YET ALL THE PRODUCE WAS STILL ON THE TABLES OUTSIDE THE SHOPS. Nothing had been put away, including all the very expensive items. It seemed to us that it was unheard of that someone would steal from these tables. Unbelievable honesty and trust. That was just one wonderful experience out of many in the 3 weeks we traveled around that region. Japan and its people are truly amazing. I have been back a number of times on holiday and never had a bad experience.
I think due to extreme environmental issues that Japan suffers like tsunami and other natural disasters, being in a remote area the cooperation between the people is well rooted. Honesty is the best policy in those times.
No surprise. Stupid guy, when there are employment rate high, everyone dont need to steal, lie, and cheat. See America, kill, robbery, hate, lie, cheat, bully, all dirty things are happening.
@Ricardo Santos I definitely agree with you when it comes to that point. I live in Germany and the only thing which we had to do sometimes was sweeping the class. I think in general we should teach the children better hygiene. For example how to wash the hands the "WHO"-way. That would definitely lower the amount of infections. I learned that during university for microbiology practice and most people probably don't know about that. Especially now during the COVID-19 virus outbreak and also in general during flu season hygiene should be top priority. If it hits us hard few people will have sufficient hygiene.
That's why I respect China, bro. We still use Kanji. I also have lots of friends from China n they are awesome. You know what, I am not interested in politics since I was born after the long serious relationship between 🇯🇵&🇨🇳, learning past history is important, but to make a better bond n make a delightful history together is more important.
Why Japan is China's mother ? Japan learns Chinese culture and uses Chinese characters. You won't learn culture and words from your son, will you? Generally speaking, mothers teach their sons to learn culture and writing.
I am no hater. I am a Westener. I have lived in China and in Japan. This video doesn't comment on the isolation you will feel in Japan if you live there for longer than 30 days. Japanese people are not helpful at all. Japanese society doesn't want foreigners to live in their country and you will have a very hard time if you try to integrate into Japanese society. I GUARANTEE that the OP would change his mind about Japan if he tried to move there and live there for 10 years. He would see that it is extremely hard to keep a good Job in Japan. It is extremely hard to marry a Japanese girl in Japan and in general, you will feel isolated if you try to move to Japan and live there. China, on the hand, will bend over backwards to welcome you as a foreigner. It is night and day.
@@Michael-fw5ef YES! Thank you! This is also why i love china. As a chinese, we had a bad history with japan( which i hope the get overwith) but i love the japanese culture in general, it is nice
@Neil Miranda Cool story, i actually agree with you. I lived with a japanese for some years now, since i am chinese i thought we may have some bad relationship(as friends). One day he approached he approached me and said something in japanese. I told him that i didnt understand. Later on he invited me to eat with him in a cafe, he started teaching me how he,(as a japanese) was superior and shouldn't be disrespected. Despite that, he is a very nice guy. He really doesn't judge people much.
I lost my wallet not once BUT TWICE while traveling Japan. Both times I just went to the counter (subway station and arcade) and saw the employee noting down the contents of my wallet. Absolutely incredible and I wish there would be a similar sense of mutual respect around the entire world.
There are a lot of reasons why Japan is like this. One of the biggest reasons is teaching children manners in school, something that would never be considered in the modern west...
@Gammy Leddack what was I right about? japanese not liking outsider's? I was hoping he'd answer that because I have interest in traveling to japan but if everyone is going to treat me like shit for being an outsider then why would I go there
@Alex K ok so I talked to my friend who is stationed in japan and he does say they are polite but allot of them, especially the older japanese give him a very cold look for being an outsider and certain stores don't serve him because he isn't japanese but they aren't hostile about it as he says they try to be as polite as they can and say they won't serve you but he says they don't speak english and just make an X with their arms to show you that "we don't serve your kind here"
Having lived in Japan and traveled in China, I would agree. In Japan if you drop your billfold , someone will grab it --- and rush it to the police station!
I was living in China from 2004 to 2015. I have also lived in Japan during 4 months in 2012. I love China like a 2nd hometown, really. I can say I feel much better living in China than living in France, which is where I was born. And I also love Japan, for different reasons, and I would also love to move there, or at least try. And for all those posting bad comments from their homecountry, you just cannot judge a country from what you see on TV. You have to live there to understand, to appreciate, and to be "allowed" to criticize it.
Thank you so much. It's good to have some fair and honest opinion. People can like or dislike a country, but vomiting like this on a country without even step there a foot is just dishonest.
la vérité est ici. L'impression que j'ai avant je fais mes études en France est bien changé, il y a des choses que je pense vrais mais faux etc. The observation give me the true view of a country rather than grabbing information on media, cuz media is always subjective.
William Doublet Fair enough! So many people are judging others after watching one or two videos rather than seeing for themselves. Stop hate each other, China and the USA......
@Justin Wong Chinese can be nice as well. But they are mostly the young generations like students and new job holders. Old or middle aged ones have terrible manner. And they are very rude to their kids very often. Also very nosy. I hope the young people of China will make the society better in future.
@Justin Wong I have seen how often old people treat their kids badly, yelling and screaming and others. I wouldn't say its a good manner. Chinese people usually pass it off as "oh those are just old generations being old generation". Also you're saying old generations were nice BCZ THEY FOLLOWED TRADITION MORE. Old times were not really good. People used to have repressive society. People used to prefer sons instead of daughters bcz it was more about profiting. There are so many other weird things in traditionalist societies. They used to pretend to be nice to strangers but to the people in their families they showed all the bad manners and not to mention nosing around everyone they have power over. But I guess for different people see them in different ways. For us, we really don't like traditionalist societies. We as foreigners only like the festivals, foods and costumes.
You're right about that, don’t have to prove,in the Great Tang Empire, Japan send people to China to learn about some good things,including manners,right now the Chinese people’s manners maybe is not so good is just because history ,you know Genghis Khan and the Manchu, in this time,we just lost it ,and the Japanese was keep it,I think it's hard for you Westerners.
The Japanese have a lot of discipline and that leads to people being nice and clean. The world could learn from them. Not that they are perfect but to be that organized is definitely admirable.
Yes true, but dont forget that in some aspects the politeness has gone to the extremes which makes it hard for the population to be "just as you are". This has lead the country into people disappearing and even commiting suicide.
@@erfantavoosi100 What really surprised me was that the US has almost the same rate of suicides per capita (rank 30 vs 34). AND Americans are rude as hell too.
Thank you for making this video, I am Japanese living Canada and became Canadian citizen while ago, visited both countries and like both countries. We both should appreciated each others without politically, Japan and China had a lot of interaction in our history and we should continue that.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
I would like to talk to someone here. can i have your attention? i met in a "japan vs china video" a japanese person called yu i . i left a section when i explained why china is a better place to be than japan , then that yui showed up and told me "japan is better, are you chinese?" before staying silent. CAN anybody explain me what's wrong with her ? is that true that Japanese are patriotic or are only conscious of china issues? because she doesn't explain me in detail why japan would be better than china, and when i told her that i am not a chinese (i am just a cultivated french), she still didn't answered me , it's been some months she talked to me like that ! it's not polite or rspectful! i saw that strange person on other japan videos. also if she don't speak well english why she replied to the ones in favor of china? any idea? if she still didn't want to reply me here , can somebody else explain me why japan would be a better place than china and what was wrong with that person? please i need to know! yu i or somebody else here, please reply me frankly here!
I have been living in Japan for almost 20 years and recently came across your videos via strange parts. Im relieved that you said at the start of this video that this is not about politics as its about living in each country. I believe that there are good and bad points of each country and love to watch vids on life in other countries.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
Here's my China vs. Japan story: In 2002 I (a Yank) was backpacking through western China on my way to Vietnam. Out of convenience I hooked up with a Brit -- headed to Hong Kong -- for several days of travel. I had Chinese language skills which helped him, and we were able to split certain costs. So, we arrive in Lijiang, in Yunnan Province. We get to our intended guest house and they've got two beds left. One is in a 3 bed dorm room and the other is in a 5 bed dorm room. Respective cost was 15RMB and 10RMB per night. At that time the exchange rate was approximately 8:1 (US$), so we were literally talking pennies. However, this guy was really trying to save on costs so he insisted on taking the cheaper of the two rooms. The current occupants of these rooms were out when we inspected the rooms so we didn't know who we'd be sharing them with. Turns out that I had a Japanese couple in my room, while he had two Aussies and two Chinese. We went out for a bite to eat and back to the guesthouse. Because we'd been traveling since early morning, we both retired quite early. After showering I went back to my empty room, turned out the lights, and closed my eyes. Before long the door opened and the Japanese couple returned to the room. Initially they turned on the light, but they quickly noticed that the third bed was now occupied. Off went the light. For the next several minutes, they took care of their business, quiet as church mice. I heard them whisper to each other a couple times and once or twice they turned on a small flashlight to take care of some matter. They went out to the bathroom and took care to close the door gently each time. The next morning I got up very well rested and met this Brit for breakfast. He complained of having a terrible night's sleep. You can guess what happened. At some point after he fell asleep the Chinese couple returned to the room. They threw on the lights, put down their food and drink, and then sat up for several hours eating, drinking, and talking loudly -- as if no one else was in the room.
It all comes down with respect to others. I noticed in SE Asia they would stop their car or tricycle and chit chat with a pal on the side of the road while blocking the whole traffic. Nobody honked cause they’re used to that.
I haven’t been to China yet, likely will be visiting sometime later this year or early next. Excited! That said, your observations about Japan, a country I visit at least twice a year are spot on! From the artistry behind the food, to the near pristine cleanliness of its public spaces, the culture espouses standards on a level that I’ve seen nowhere else and permeates the entire society. And, that’s a good thing :)
I've worked in China twice. 2001 and 2010. The 2001 trip was a nightmare from beginning to end. Altough we were invited by the government, I have some of the most incredible stories to tell about incompetence, rudeness and utter idiocy. N O T H I N G W O R K E D !!! Nothing was according to contract and noone was responsible for anything. We went to Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Hong Kong felt like a fresh breeze of civilized behaviour after suffering through the mainland madness. We were pretty happy just to get out of there in one piece as the last idiocy almost had me and my collegue attacking a government official physically. Guess we wouldn't have left there ever if that would have happened. However the 2010 trip was different. That time we went to Beijing and Shanghai. It was quite a different experience. I got to see another side of China and had a great time. F.e. the best meal I've had all my life was in Shanghai and work-wise the entire situation felt more professional and flowed (fairly) easy. There are a few reasons why the trips were so different, but the biggest one is Status. The first trip we got the short end of the stick because the Chinese basically had misunderstood who we were. On the second trip it was very clear that we were a pretty high profile visit and was treated accordingly. Status seems to be everything in China. Also, almost ten years had passed and this could be felt everywhere. I've worked in Japan too and absolutely love that country. But being a westerner it sometimes feel you are like a bull in a glass-shop because of all the politeness and tidyness. This is not something you feel in China. There you better man up and stand your ground (which I kind of like). In short I think that working in China really speaks to my Pirate/Entrepeneur/Adventurer persona as it is filled with challenges that will test your endurance in a character developing and "fun" way. Constantly making sure you are not being ripped off and having to show strength almost every second. A little bit like "the Wild East". Working in Japan is just such a breeze as they are incredibly organized in their dealings with you. Everything is in order and the risk of being scammed is as Winston says, almost nil (if you don't deal with the wrong people of course, but you know if you are and have to blame yourself if that happens). But if you want to get a little bit more adventureous China has a lot more to offer to the strong of heart. China for adventure, Japan for tourism.
Yeah the growth is really tremendous. I left China in '95, and went back in '06. I was surprised they had easily accessible utilities, phones everywhere, and the nearby town of Ganzhou ballooned to a population of almost 1 million (we were visiting family, so rural areas). I can only imagine what it's like in 2018.
China is a BIG country with massive population, therefore most probably you will experience all kinds of different things/behavors , good or bad. But it is changing at an incredible speed, if you could go there every 5 years , you will be surprised how things have evolved /changed.
theres a website HK sucks which is really funny and the Japanese are way more civilized and futuristic than chinese could ever hope to be and im sure that pisses them off! japanese drink and dance,chinese eat and shop!
I love Japan. The small convenience stores and supermarkets are amazing. I couldn’t believe how many varieties of Kit Kat you can buy. The food and craft beer is great and dining out is generally inexpensive. I look forward to returning.
I would like to talk to someone here. can i have your attention? i met here a japanese person called yu i . i left a section when i explained why china is a better place to be than japan , then that yui showed up and told me "japan is better, are you chinese?" before going silent. CAN anybody explain me what's wrong with her (something tell me yui's apparently a girl)? because she doesn't explain me in detail why japan would be better than china, and when i told her that i am not a chinese (i am just a cultivated french), she still didn't answered me , it's been some months she talked to me like that ! it's not polite! if she still didn't want to reply me here , can somebody explain me why japan would be a better place than china then? please i need to know! yu i or somebody else here, please reply me frankly here!
Stayed in Japan for 3 months and love the country and the people in it. Respectful and well manner. Almost everything is clean and organized. Japanese takes pride in their arts and cooking to the max.
The biggest distinction between Chinese and Japanese culture is not the difference in quality of life or technological development or infrastructure, but the fact that Japan is a very high trust society whereas China is a very low trust society.
The worst thing is that some of the damage that is now being done will be permanent. That lead will stay in the environment forever and poison everyone who eats food grown in China.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
I've lived in Japan for almost 8 years now and have lived in China for about a month. Japan is a very safe country, never lost anything here during my stay. China is not as safe as Japan. Japanese food is really delicious and looks amazing but sometimes the new comers and tourists would not get used to eating Japanese foods. Japanese people are really polite. But as he said Chinese people talk loudly. But I loved Chinese culture. I think Chinese are honest people no showing off... but in Japan people show off to be good most of the times. You won't know if someone is really unhappy because they never show it in Japan. It makes Japanese difficult to understand. But life in Japan is really convenient and the service is really good. People are really helpful. But Japanese people are not so friendly. I found that it's opposite in China. Chinese people are friendly and full of life.
It depends on socioeconomic status. Among working class people if you're reticent and/or soft spoken they see you as extremely cold, distant, and unfriendly. You're expected to have little personal space, pry around a lot of personal information, and chat excitedly to show interest. But I find richer people to be quieter, talk less, and show a lot more restraint. I think a lot of the older generation (who've gone through poorer times) find the newer generation to be uncaring and unfilial, and the differences in communication play a part in it.
I had the great privilege to have been stationed @ Yokota Air Base an hour west of Tokyo from '02-'06. It was a period of my life that I will never forget. Some comments. About the work ethic of the Japanese--the entire society has a sense of duty to the group, whatever that is, that super-cedes the individual. This shows up in a million ways, day-to-day, in all areas of life. The Japanese are unfailingly polite. Good manners are something that everyone practices at all times. So....when it comes to work, you do your best, no matter what your job is, because that's the right thing to do for the group (family, work center, team, company, etc.). Stealing is VERY frowned on, as is arson. Stealing breaks down trust in the group very fast, so people don't do it. This includes scamming. Hostess bars, it is universally understood, operate under a different metric. You know, whether you are Nihonjin (Japanese) or Gaijin (a foreigner), that those places provide you with young, pretty, engaging companions, and that while your drinks will be reasonable, their drinks will be expensive. That is how they make their money. Also, many of the hostess bars run on the clock, usually by the hour. Additionally, there are those hostess bars where the hostesses are actually prostitutes, but that's a subset, and as such their services are sex for hire by the hour, which is another subject entirely. The only other scam-type businesses are the Yakusa families---the Japanese Mafia. But they don't bother foreigners, as long as you don't bother them. Anyway, with anything else, what you see is what you will get in Japan. It's a matter of good manners, face, and honor, to a degree. They don't lie, they don't cheat, and they don't steal. That being said, the Japanese are very careful with what they say. If you ask a Japanese for a favor and he doesn't want to do it for you, he will not say no to you directly, as it would cause an uncomfortable situation where either one of you or both of you would lose face. He might start inhaling his breath almost through his teeth, saying something like, "ahh, Pete-san, it is VERY difficult....VERYYY difficult to do that." Or something along those lines. What he's really saying is, "I want to say no to this request, but I can't because it would be very impolite." So, a proper response would be something like, "oh.....Yuki-san, please, please forgive me. It was so foolish of me to make such a silly request as that." Then he "forgives" you, you say you're sorry for having bothered him, there's a lot of bowing that goes on, and eventually, you both get a chance to back away from an awkward situation without losing face. Everyone goes home happy and the group integrity is maintained. Now, of course, in family situations, it's not like this all the time, but there is an element this that runs through the whole society. So...they do a LOT of interactions that are centered on politeness. As far as stealing goes, you could drop a wallet stuffed with Yen on a subway, and some young dude who's dressed like a cross between a punk-rocker and a hood will come up to you, bowing, and holding out your wallet as an offering, and saying, "sumimasen, sumimasen," to let you know it's your wallet and that he found it. And....there will be no money or credit cards gone. And examples of this can be found every day all over Japan. There is a flip side to the polite interaction, though. There's a phrase in Japanese that means "stated meaning", and another one that means "hidden meaning", and these two phrases are real encapsulation of what can go on. Being polite all the time because it's something you must do many times does not encourage the outside thinker, the iconoclast, or the rugged-do-it-on-my-own individualist. And a folk phrase in Japanese culture sums this up, "the nail that sticks up will get hammered down." And in many ways, it's true. The Japanese love to experience and at times absorb new things from new cultures, and very often come up with their own unique spin on them. They are great for taking an idea, putting 50 or 100 or 5000 people on it, studying every little piece of it, and refining it to the nth degree. But coloring outside the lines, even if it get things done better or faster? Not as much. And the Japanese who dares to go his own way? Well, he should live in a segment of society where interaction with the group is not as necessary. These people do exist, but to this day, they are still a minority. The culture is a fascinating juxtaposition and contrast of the deeply revered ancient traditions and the cutting edge modern. You got a chance to see that in Tokyo with it skyscrapers on one block and shrines on the next. And even if the Japanese man or woman you meet is non-religious, they are still very proud of being Japanese, and proud of their country, its culture, traditions, and contributions to the world. If you want to see a couple of films that are fiction but capture the heart of spirit of Japan, I'd recommend Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck for the modern stuff, and The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise for the traditional things. Both have good scripts and good acting and do a really good job of showing what it is to be Japanese. That all being said, I would recommend living in Japan to anyone. I made a lot of good friends there, and will always treasure the times I spent there. Respectfully, PMH
Same here, thank you for sharing your experiences, that was nice to read, I too, want to visit the country as soon as everything goes back to normal after the virus. Cheers!
I heard someone once say that Japanese culture has all of the good characteristics that you mention but is a long way from producing something like James Brown.
I definitely go with Japan. I have always liked and admired the Japanese people and their country. I will visit the country one day, no matter how expensive it is.
As a South African that has been to both Japan (several times) and to China (several times) I can say that Japan wins hands down. The biggest downside to Japan is that it is more expensive. However...that aside I think that aside from the other points you made you I feel you did not fully address (even though I know you said you would not address politics but as to how that pertains to living in China, it matters) 1) the ability to breathe. The air and water in Japan is actually clean as opposed to how stunningly polluted and dirty China's is. Japan uses a lot of clean energy (wind, solar, electric cars), and half of everyone rides bicycles to most places. That's a huge win. 2) The freedom....plain and simple. The fact that you have access to any and all media (print, music, internet etc) without government censorship, banning and heavy handedness. Basically there is political freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech and association. You can put your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalala" all you want in an effort to ignore the politics but it's the reality and affects one's life. That too is a huge win for Japan. And absolutely the manners and way of thinking and behaving of the people really matters. Japanese people have never ceased to amaze me in terms of their kindness and treatment of me as a guest in their country. I once traveled first to Beijing and then afterwards to Osaka. I have to say that the staff in Beijing airport were the most rude, aggressive, and hostile assholes I have ever experienced at any airport. While when I arrived at Osaka the airport staff could not have been more kind and nice to me and made the process of going through immigration border on a pleasure as opposed to the stress and anger I felt in Beijing. You can call that an adventure all you want. But how I am treated as a human being matters to me. The Chinese still have a LOT to learn about how to treat people visiting their country(hint: not like criminals) And so Japan wins hands down for me.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
@Yolanda Krieger Agree with you. Briefly I lived and worked in Tokyo. The people were very friendly and kind. Would love to go back and travel throughout the country.
I work in the tourism industry and I can tell you the that Japanese people are some of the most respectful, honest and honourable people I meet. The Chinese are literally the polar opposite.
I agree with most of what you said. I have relatives who live in China as well as in Japan and I have visited both countries recently. I really love China, most people are very polite, there is so much you can do and the food is so diverse and generally it´s very inexpensive to spend time in China. Japan however is really exceptional in almost every way. I have never seen a country that keeps their cities so clean and I´ve never seen any other country, where the people are so civilizated and helpful. The mentality in Japan is what I like the most about this Country, we all can learn from them!
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheat, they refuse to be more open culturally , they don't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them, but many are, unlike 99% of japanese.
@@nsebast China and japan similar culture?? Lol. Have you even watched the video? Only think they kinda have in common are the religion and similar writing systems
@@Shadow77999 Yea religion, writing systems, architecture, belief system. It has the same root, why would it produce a different fruit? It wont be exactly the same cause that would be boring, at least 85% the same. Give China more time to develop. As the uneducated old generation pass, the new generations will be highly educated and it will become close to Japan.
Michael 1 year ago I am no hater. I am a Westener. I have lived in China and in Japan. This video doesn't comment on the isolation you will feel in Japan if you live there for longer than 30 days. Japanese people are not helpful at all. Japanese society doesn't want foreigners to live in their country and you will have a very hard time if you try to integrate into Japanese society. I GUARANTEE that the OP would change his mind about Japan if he tried to move there and live there for 10 years. He would see that it is extremely hard to keep a good Job in Japan. It is extremely hard to marry a Japanese girl in Japan and in general, you will feel isolated if you try to move to Japan and live there. China, on the hand, will bend over backwards to welcome you as a foreigner. It is night and day.
any more of those winston type videos on japan, like driving around on bikes, recording and talking about the environment, this whole documentary approach is interesting, I liked this one a lot
Good video! I've lived in Japan for a while, and have only traveled in China (though I lived in Vietnam for years, which shares more than a few similarities). For people going overseas to teach English, which a lot are, and have no specific interest in Japan (and are perhaps looking for an adventure) I would almost be more quick to recommend China. The cost of living to salary will allow a lot more travel potential in country, as well as in the surrounding areas, and China overall just feels a little more alien and different to the 'western world'. I really enjoy Japan, and am enjoying it more now more than ever, but part of this is from having a fair amount of experience and decent credentials to move up the chain here (even if it is in the context of teaching English). It's fairly competitive here, and China just has a lot more accessible opportunities.
Good review, I have been living in Japan for 11 years and go often to China. Both are amazing countries with a lot of pros&cons. You need to know and accept them. Japan is an easier places for tourists and China is really an exiting adventure place! Guys you just need to enjoy both of them and no need to decide that one is better than the other... and stay awesome!
Xyz Abcd very interesting comment but not adding anything to the discussion. Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
Let me say that objectively, China’s development time is only 30 years, and Japan’s development time is more than 70 years, so the comparison is unfair. China is changing all the time, including modern culture and living habits. Japan basically No change
I visited a pal in Sapporo, Japan and we went night skiing on Moiwa. We got a taxi after to a restaurant. An hour later I look up and see a guy walking towards us. I say “hey! That’s our taxi driver from earlier!” I remembered his face as I sat in the front chatting. He only came back with my ski gloves, which I’d left in the taxi and hadn’t even missed. I offered him a few yen, he declined with a smile. What a guy. Only in Japan.
So many stories about lost items, its just awesome. My favourite is that the japanese sometimes "reserve" a table outside of for example starbucks by laying their smartphone on the table. Then they go inside to order their coffee and stuff... Of a far right group which was demonstrating against to many foreigners visiting kyoto..... But they were still very polite and one guy helped us with the luggage. I mean wtf
Great video. Few points I would elaborate on. Personally, I have lived in China for only 2 years and Japan for 3. I agree with basically everything you said. Although...first, Japanese drinking culture is far more complex that "all you can eat /drink", there are numerous group drinking rules and customs to follow, something you wouldn't pick up from a few weeks travel. Second, you said Japanese was an easy language to learn! Come on bro, both Chinese and Japanese are some of the hardest languages in the world to learn to English native speakers. Third, China has a lot more to offer than what you mention, though at the end of the video you really nailed it. I wish you expounded more on the awesome adventures waiting to be had in China! Great video, thanks!
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
As always, I enjoy your video and your perspective very much, Serpentza. I've been to both countries and I fully agree with you. I really wish I could have stayed in China for a bit longer when I was young. That will be an incredible experience to see the evolution of a country. I really hope China can get better and better because it got so much potential. It's such a massive place and with such a mixed culture. Anyway, please keep bringing us your eyes by showing us more videos and ~ stay awesome!
What makes Japan such a beautiful country is the fact that there’s an intrinsic common sense of respect to others around you and to yourself...I’d say it’s the only county with those attributes. Prejudice does exist, but respect and decency still normally prevails...
@@missplainjane3905 yes very much, i went to the parks in china in the times of 2017 and 2023 and the country has gotten much better! Japan hasn’t changed alot but i love the robots there !
If anything China has fallen even further behind. As serpentza said, the negatives now outweigh the positives. The CCP is a brutal dictatorship and with Xi coming to power, the country unfortunately took 2 steps backwards.
李三月, I think you might be interested to know that, aside from recent history, Japan has always had a huge admiration for China since forever. Historically, Japan always admired China, especially the culture's opulence, especially because Japan is a country very poor in natural resources. So you see a lot of Chinese historical influence in Japan, and I think when it comes down to it, even Japanese people of today admit that China is one of the most important cultures in history, that have shaped the world to what it is today. This is all from a Japanese person :)
Thanks for the insightful video! My parents are Chinese but I've been born and raised in Canada. I love learning about Japanese culture! It's such an interesting country. I feel like its the most different first world country out there. Being Chinese I feel really critical on China. Especially in regards to manners. Since Canadians are stereotyped to be polite, I try my best to be polite in public to hold up that good stereotype but to also to reverse the Chinese stereotype of being rude. Regardless of the countless negative points China may have. I still love it. Recently I've been really excited about all the growth China has been going through. I'm looking forward to what comes.
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From my observation, the younger Chinese generations are much better now when it comes to good manners because of their exposures to other cultures. The one that has bad or rude manners are the older and middle aged Chinese.
I love your way of speaking. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Awesome narration. The way you present the story is so riveting. If you know Japanese, why don't you make a series of videos in Japan? Would be so interesting.... 👍🏻
I would prefer such a system to current systems in the West. I work as loss prevention and the law has been rendered largely ineffective in controlling the spread of crime, drug addiction, dropping property values, social loafing, intergenerational dependency, the rise of unintegrated 5-columns, and the proliferation of r-selected (low-quality) minority populations.
Fascinating video. I lived in Japan for about 10 years altogether. Stationed in northern Japan, Aomori Prefecture, with the U.S. military. I found your comparison of the drinking cultures interesting. Perhaps things have changed since I lived there last in the early 1990s, maybe it had to do with the military culture I'm from, but I found that my drinking experience in Japan was comparable to what you said about China. I used to go to one bar in particular which a few Japanese businessmen also went to and we all became great drinking buddies. To cut to the chase, it was the norm to fill our 4 or so ounce glasses to the top with whiskey. I had many a horrible hangover as a result. And yes, the Japanese are incredibly honest and helpful. It used to be a common perception that you could send your 5 year old to the store with a 10000 yen bill to buy a 100 yen item and they would come back with all the right change. I found that insight to be very true. Speaking of 5 year olds, one time I was at a festival with some friends and they had their young, blond haired daughter with them. The Japanese were amazed by her hair and everyone wanted to touch it. Well, one person grabbed the girl from the mother and then started passing her down the line so everyone could touch her hair. Talk about a distressed mom, but the girl was promptly returned no worse the wear. Lastly, how helpful the Japanese are. I am a ham radio operator. I wanted to get a license in Japan and I simply walked into the headquarters of the Japanese Amateur Radio League (JARL) in Tokyo cold. The woman at the front desk, who didn't speak a lick of English, was flustered, but recovered quickly. She tracked down a man who spoke only a little more English who walked me through the entire process to get a license. Took a few hours. I would hope that would happen in America, but I am not optimistic. Another ham radio story: my radio kept breaking and the technician told me that if it broke down one more time, that he would travel the 400 miles to my home to figure out the problem and fix it...for free. His company had that much pride in their product. Sorry for going on. I just found your channel today and it is fascinating. I dated a Chinese girl many moons ago and well, let's say she is the one who got away. I was always extremely interested in Chinese culture and I look forward to learning more about it from you.
Be Chinese living in Japan now, I almost agree with all of your reviews about living in Japan and China except one truth: when you live here in Japan for more than 3 months, you will desperately miss the diversity of Chinese food, which I mean you will get tired of the diet life with ramen, sushi, curry everyday. At least I am tired. BTW, thanks for your great video!
+xiao xiang Learn to cook, youtube and google are still free. You get better overtime, and no, it doesn't take half hour or more to cook tasty food. Once you get a hang of it, 10, 15 minutes TOPS.
That's probably true. Though according to Michelin Stars, Japan still have to highest "quality" food in the world (fresh ingredient etc). So after being tired of Japanese food maybe you could have thried some French or Italian restaurant over there since the Japanese seem to have very good ones. I believe they also like Indian food though I don't know if the chefs they import are as renowed.
I don't know how you get tired of food in Japan when you could possibly find food from any countries you can think of if you live in or near Tokyo. Food selections are ridiculously diverse in Tokyo area. But I understand how you miss the real Chinese food made in China.
Since he's living there for three months he's probably mainly eating cheap food. That's probably a lot more limited to curry, ramen, and conveyor sushi.
As a Chinese , And lived in japan too, agree with the part you talked about two countries’ food, the stability of the food quality in China does fluctuate.
The most different between Japan and China is that China is a multi-ethnic country. Not all the peoples in China are talking louder, it's due to pronunciation...I even can not understand what are they (the couple in the bus) talking about. Cantonese may be one of the popular dialects in China since Guangzhou is a major city in Mainland China. But most people speak Mandarin as official language which typified by the Peking dialect. I was born in Shanghai so I also can speak Wu dialect which be used only in Shanghai and Zhejiang. If you come to Shanghai, you will find the peoples here are more polite.
Love your stuff Vince! I currently live in Japan as a westerner I got some culture-shocks here in there, but totally love this country. Shout out for conquering Southern China.
I've lived in both and I will say this about them. From an environmental perspective Japan wins hands down, its just plain nicer. But from a personal relationship perspective I prefer Chinese people. Don't get me wrong the Japanese are lovely people, but I always found them to be somewhat reserved in an informal setting even when you know them well. I always felt like there was some sort of invisible hard to overcome barrier between us. This is not something I've found in China. As soon as I've been taken in to their inner circle then I have felt like one of the family, their generosity has blown me away at times and I really appreciate them for that. On the subject of language, its very hard to compare the two. It is like comparing Russian to English. The written language has some crossover but the grammar and spoken languages are completely unrelated. From my perspective Japanese was slightly easier overall than Chinese due to a slightly more forgiving writing system and the absence of tones. But either one is a serious undertaking for a native English speaker. Finally if you won't take my word for it then my Japanese friend who studied with me at Tsinghua has told me many a horror story about the working culture in Japan where she would regularly start work at 9am and put in shifts until 3am the next day. Working in Japan can be very punishing and she much prefers living in Hong Kong to Tokyo for that reason alone.
I lived in China for my first 16 years and lived a total of more than 2 years living in Japan. I don't agree that behaviors from the elderly in China are "bad" (as you mentioned). I believe that's part from the traditional culture that does not match "the western standard", people speak loudly so it feels more lively (热闹/にぎやか). I agree that the new generation in China is doing pretty well now, by this I mean they keep the good stuff from traditional culture and learn/adjust from other cultures. Btw, In Chinese, "Cheers" is 干杯, which is similar to Japanese version 乾杯. You can also interpret it as empty your glass as well?
My job is to transport Japanese ( Panasonic in Osaka) to Tesla everyday. My ex boyfriend lived in Japan for three years when he was a boy because his dad played base ball for the Chunichi Dragons. So I have somewhat gotten interested in the culture for these reasons.
The comment section of this video is disappointing. A lot of narrowminded polarized views. Of either hating China or hating Japan. Did any of those people even watch the video? Serpentza clearly says that he's not comparing if either one is better but just some of the differences. Both countries have their own advantages and disadvangtes.
Yeah but, so what?, that doesn't stop us from taking the differences he presents, and comparing and deciding ourselves, isn't the whole point of the video to present an unbiased source of information about these countries, so we can form our own opinion?, some people are going to watch this video and think that one country is better, that's fair, others are going to think that there's no better country or both are great or both suck, that's fair too.
+Ashley Lau you seem to have that selective type of hearing because he keeps stating that he's not putting down China just showing the facts of both places and not comparing one to the other as either one being greater than the other
That's because the facts are that China is still growing so the negatives will out weigh the positives. In 30 years I'm sure many of these things will change. Unfortunately I do not think that the cleanliness or personal responsibility will ever change in China.
Some people hate hearing the truth... It sucks but it's true China is very much behind other countries when it comes to cultural cleanliness and other things in society
Thank you for your video. As you mentioned, some Chinese people speak loudly in public place, that is not a good behavior. but when i studying in UK, i found British also speak loudly sometimes, more importantly when they laugh, they laugh in a extremely high voice, what do you think of this? i am really looking forward to your reply.
+Wu Gang some of us have already noticed our problems, the news also report the uncivilized behaviour. the viewers began to pick up liter after competition, oversea students are polite as well. we are changing, but it need a period. somebody still label us as xxx, when Asians are doing something bad, they all consider them as Chinese. May be they just know China.
Japan developed much sooner than China of course. Japan is fantastic. Three negative points that stand out though, are 1.) high suicide rate 2.) long work hours with NO COMPENSATION for "overtime" 3.) low pay for outrageous cost of living. The Japanese work so hard. Its not fair they don't get to enjoy more free time. There should be a declaration of human rights to end long working hours.
You need to understand ones' culture to really judge their behaviors. Japanese takes pride in their productivity and probably that's why they'll greet you "ganbatte" (try harder) instead of America's "taking easy". Just saying.
bite me Well I live in Japan and some people get sick of their work. It’s the way it is is what causes people to become suicidal. The workers are also treated unfairly like not getting sick pay and being forced to work even if you are sick. A woman with the flu (influenza) was a a train station and she fell into the tracks and got hit by the train because of her sickness and forced to work. I was at the incident, I feel that is the truth.
Ann An that is true, but I enjoy it at lunch time but it is also a good place for having a good night out because that’s where most salarymen go. They would obviously have to pay for their own food, they might not have to pay their rent.
Thank you for your neutral review. I live in Japan and think it has many good things, but also many negative things. What I learned is that every country has good and bad things.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China. for the ones who are going to disagree with me, explain me why japan would be better than china then. i am french by the way.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
I live in japan and the best part is not tokyo or osaka or the history or the food the best about japan is biking or driving in rural japan its beautiful and on the trips going to a mom n pop shop and get snacks while your riding
@@grade3328 ... Only 4 years old? LOL. One of our Japanese homestay students left behind a "Made in Japan" rice cooker when she returned to Japan in 1994. The cooker was made in 1992 and I still use that 28 year old device today. It works perfectly and never had any repairs. Meanwhile, some items that are Made in China" don't even function correctly new out of the box, and many are so poorly made that they fall apart after a few uses.
@@sbalogh53 yeah my point is its prize, for some simple comparison the fying pan like my japanese frying pan cost about 30$ meanwhile i bought it for dirt cheap 6$, man i just love made in japan
@@grade3328 ... I have two Japanese chef knives, one for sushi and the other for general cutting. I bought them in 2004 when I first went to Japan. I have never had to sharpen them and they are still razor sharp after much use. The Chinese chef knife I also had was thrown away soon after purchase because it could not even be sharpened. I could safely run it along my hand without risk of a cut. I think they must have been using a really bad grade of steel. On the other hand, with the Japanese knives you can see the pattern of layers of metal near the edge showing high quality of materials and workmanship. Of course the Japanese knives were much more expensive than the Chinese one. You get what you pay for.
Thanks for the great video! I think this video is really good for people who can think by themselves.
I just want to say, please don't compare like "China vs Japan" or "Chinese vs Japanese".(I know this video doesn't mean it. I think it was pretty fair.) Citizens are just the gathering of each, one person. Of course, they're grown up/educated in their way, but everyone is different and has something others can't understand. I am just sad when someone says Chinese/Japanese is bad because ~~~. Let's say it's just because of him/her... I'm a 21 years old Japanese girl. I am not used to English and not sure if I make sense. But I can't help to say that.
Love your series btw, I live in Hong Kong and have been to both countries often and I think your thoughts are spot on. It is obviously impossible to cover everything in a short video, but I would make a correction to yours, the drinking culture in Japan is actually enforced by the culture, as an employee you are required to go have a drink with your boss if you want to keep your job. This is true at least with most corporate jobs. Also, I think you should mention sexism in Japan compared to China, I will leave the thoughts of that for you to comment for China, but in Japan its pretty bad. My sister worked there for a global accounting firm and was a leader in the project she was on, the Japanese counterparts didn't take her seriously and would direct problems and questions to a male subordinate. She prevailed after a struggle but it's a constant struggle for women in Japan. I would like to hear your thoughts on women in China compared to Japan.
I experienced the same. I absolutely love Japan. I have spent months there and as soon as COVID dies down I plan on moving there for six months. Even the hanging subway handles in Japan are spotless during rush hour, which seems impossible.
as a chinese i like japan because the country is very similar to the tang-dynasty of china. whether the culture and the good manner of the people. really miss the old china.
Couldn't agree more...In truth, Japan has been preserving the great Chinese civilization much better than the current communist China. The PRC stupidly had cut its tie with the past brilliance of China the world admires due to the socialist revolution movement.
averagejoe i dont think it is mostly because of the party. it is mostly cause of the poetry for the past century and the fallen of the qing dynasty that leads the people's manner fallen too. living standard is the main problem i think. ;( although the young generation is caughting up! really glad to see that XD
+Vivian Zhu Mostly not because of the party? You must be brainwashed. The cultural revolution, instigate by the CCP, deliberately, systemically, and ruthlessly wiped out Chinese traditions and culture in China.
Vivian Zhu No. That is not the reason why I said so. Instead this is why: 1. They do try brainwash their people constantly. Evidence? Tight censorship, controlled media, manipulate news information, carry out massive propaganda: against the west, US in particular, and glorifies the party, twist historic facts. 2. The CCP tried to wiped out the culture in the cultural revolution (along with some other political reasons). This is a historic fact and the effect was profound in my opinion. 3. Blaming poetries instead of the ruling party for the mess is just absurd. Therefore, I concluded that it is the result of brainwashing.
''Take a while to catch up to Japan in social politeness'' Please. Nobody is catching up to Japan in social politeness, they have basically perfected the art of being polite.
Whenever I visit my home country, people tell me they can tell I've lived in Japan because of my mannerisms, which include bowing, smiling, and showing reverence :)
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic. China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins. unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
Japan and China have both beautiful places and sceneries, unique characteristics... but that's true that Japan is much more clean compared to China, people are also more polite etc... Though, China is a complexe and rich country, with its 56 and more ethnicities. That's not the case of Japan which is more homogene and is almost composed only of japaneses (aside the ainus people...). I thin I'd prefer to live in China, because you can feel more relaxed, you can breath and make easely friends... Japaneses have this attitute to keep, this over-politeness to have all the time, this comedy, they always fear to be judged, they're not really natural... I like when people can be themselves and express themselves without being ignored or bullied for their differences. When Chine will reach more education and a better standing of life, it'll be the best place to live in Earth.
Thank you for speaking the truth!!! I think it is a form of teaching. Thank you for making videos about China and put it out there. I'm a Chinese Canadian/American, but technically, I'm an adult third culture kid. I think it is a blessing that I get to living in developed countries like Canada and America. I wish I could say the same about China. I definitely prefer clean and polite. China is a beautiful country with rich history. But It is so terrible and sad to have 1.4 billion people living in there but don't take care of the land properly and don't respect it. And with so many people in there you would think people ignorant of other people would be the last thing need to be educated about, it would be natural. But quite the opposite when comes to considering that everybody's freedom is limited.
Chinese people are usually loud and lack mannerisms.....always looking for an angle!...looking to get over ....on things they can take advantage of any situation........Japanese people are a lot more sophisticated and dignified....and very polite.....period...
Once while in Japan, I left my expensive camera in a taxi that took me back to my hotel late one night. I didn’t even realize it until the next morning when I was leaving the hotel. How? Well, my camera was sitting on a gold platter at the front desk of the lobby. Just sitting there! Out in the open. I pointed to it, and said “Hey, That’s my camera!” to the concierge behind the counter. He just smiled and said “Dozo” gesturing for me to take it. That totally blew my mind. Shit like that always happened to me in Japan. Love Japan.
So as Korea
GREENMEENIE oh and that should be normal!! Don’t you think?
josh kim Yeah, it should be normal...but I live in New York City. Great city full of great people. However...if you leave something in a cab here...um...I wouldn’t expect to see it again. Sadly.
Gamz Neddyl Dude. You obviously don’t live in NYC.
Shit like that has happened to me in the USA. I once dropped my wallet out of my jacket pocket riding a motorcycle on a busy road. I thought it was gone forever. Next day, I got a phone call offering to return it. The man came to my address and returned it to me, forgoing any reward at all.
As a Chinese, I don't really understand what's wrong with some people of my country these days.
I don't think it's a shame to admit the truth that China does have plenty of bad things. The first step to solve a problem is to admit there is one.
And I do think it is pathetic to say that a person is China hater just because he or she pointed out some flaws of this country which do exist.
To admit the fact and to make the country better, or to keep denying and change nothing, it's quite clear(at least to me) which choice is really good for the country.
+Lantao Wang thank you my friend, you are am enlightened person!
suhani sharma About Eating dogs, there was in China also a very intense debate recently, in which almost the whole society is involved.
Some Chinese believe that dogs are no different than other animals such as chicken, pigs or cattle. As long as those dogs are not pets, but raised by those who legally own them, we have no right to interfere in others' choices.
The other, especially those who have a dog as pet, on the contrary, think that this tradition increases the possibility that their pets would be stolen and sold to the restaurant. And the way some savage people kill the dogs is extremely cruel.
Although most Chinese, especially those who live in the relatively developed area, don't eat dogs, the mainstream thought about this topic is the first one. And they also demand the government to make a law that dogs thieves and animals torture should be punished more toughly.
+suhani sharma
sorry，not everyone eats dogs in China.most of Chinese people hate eating dogs.
I see chinese tourist here a lot, and all of'em are noisy and shouting while they talk and also completely ignorant towards others, I don't believe bookish education provides these basic ethics. Culturally I find chinese people to be the poorest in the planet, barring the rural muslims. Ofcourse chinese younger generation who have been exposed to western society try to weave a different story.
stubby wonderkid Yeah.. I know how that feels, especially when you compare Chinese with other tourists for example Japanese, who are extremely quiet when they talk to each others.
But actually, they are not necessarily being rude and it's probably just the way they talk. I've heard of a theory that Mandarin sounds somehow extremely annoying to western people. If you got a chance to hear people talk to each other in Cantonese, you would definitely think they both are extremely angry, but they might just talk about a very happy thing...
And about the culture stuff, in fact, our traditional culture(like Confucianism) does say a lot about being polite and so on. But those things have been dead for a long time due to the shitty political stuffs from 1949 to 1976. Especially from 1966 to 1976, Chinese destroyed literally everything about the culture. Back then, the life was just about violence and fighting with each other. And the tourists you can see these days are the people who have grown up in such an environment.
as a Chinese, i d say this is very fair comment about Japan and China. we are still far behind japan in terms of the living standard.....China's GDP per capital is still only one third of Japan. this shows everything. The good thing is that all Chinese people know this and keep improving....God bless both China and Japan.. especially for the people. not politicians.
+Li Andy
True.
The system from both country sucks and nothing to do with 一般的 people.
I'm Japanese once lived in China.
May the God bless you too!
+Li Andy Well said !
I strongly suggest Winston to clarify that the order and cleaness of Japan is also way ahead of most Western countries such as USA and UK.
Depends, Japan reminds me a lot of Seattle, my USA hometown, they're both super clean and I love that. The opposite of Hanoi, my Asian "hometown" which is like a human garbage dump.
Thomas Affolter I don't think the population of Seattle can be compared with that of Tokyo or Osaka. Most populated US cities are dirty, at least in downtown, from my own experience.
i once forgot my backpack in subway train and 30 minutes later a subway worker came to me with my backpack and i was 3 stations away, it blew my mind how japanese society is
good for you
mongolian50cent WOW. the mbta in Boston will hold it in there main office if they find it. But to go track you down and give it back to you wow so cool!
@@Rays_Bad_Decisions i was on wheelchair so, i think all the stations knew that i needed assistant so all the workers knew all about my stuff when i requested a ramp to get on the subway at first station, when i arrived every stops that i was taking one worker always come and greet me and help me in n out of subway trains
I had a good experience in US during a business trip. While on walk in Napa Valley I lost my wallet with maybe $500 in it in cash as part of business allowance. The next day I got email that police department located my wallet thanks to my business card inside. Somebody kind found it and brought it to police. By that time however I was in southern California already. Police officer was so kind to send the wallet by Fedex. All my money and IDs were there. I was so greatful to kind people over there.
they just do their cultural duty
On Chinese Language vs Japanese Language.
1. You can learn conversational Japanese in about 6 weeks, and within six months, you can speaking, ordering and getting into trouble with the best of them. But to read a newspaper requires "kanji" and that's years of study.
2. Chinese is a TONAL language and each tone has a different meaning. There is "rising tone", "falling tone", "rising and falling tone" and so on and so on. I can't hear the tones, so I'll never learn Chinese.
I lived in Japan for three years and I spoke it well. I was never "scammed" and in fact, I went to a pachinko parlour once and the yazuka guys let me play for free. Why? he knew that I had no knowledge of how to "cash in" on my pachinko winnings, whatever they were. I returned the tub of pachinko balls, bowed deeply and thanked him.
Love your videos, keep up the awesome work!
どこで住まれていたんですか？
沖縄 Okinawa. To be fair, Okinawa is NOT really Japan. The Okinawans speak a variety of unique dialects, but Standard Japanese was the only way I could communicate.
Heinrich Beck The Chinese language has been developed for thousands of years. It is really not a very easy language to master. The Chinese language has four tones, which is difficult for foreigners, but if you can learn more about Chinese, you will find Chinese language. It is beautiful. You have learned a lot of Japanese, and there are many words in Japanese that are composed of Chinese characters. You should also find out
when a Japanese gang is nicer than the Chinese government lol
@@HeinrichBeck うちなーはやまとぅぬいちぶやいびーん
Japan has honesty. Unbelievable honesty.
About 15 years ago my wife and I visited various places around Kyoto and Nara. We took a tour south from Nara and stayed overnight in a temple in a small mountain town called Yoshinoyama. It had a number of temples and a long row of souvenir shops for the tourists. During the day we walked past all the shops and small stalls looking at the items for sale. Some were very expensive, around $100 or more. We walked past one and the middle aged Japanese lady owner stopped us and tried very hard for us to come inside and have some tea with her. Her English was quite good. We were very hesitant thinking she was trying to hard sell us something we did not want, but eventually we succumbed and went inside. Wonderful experience! She made Japanese tea, and sat with us for half an hour showing some of her photo albums from when she went to various western countries. We did not see any other westerners in that town during our whole stay so we must have been an attraction for her to have someone interesting with whom to talk. Then came the "hard sell". She brought out a beautiful box and in it were two hand made, exquisite porcelain horse figures which she was offering to us. We said we did not want to buy and apologized feeling a bit guilty, but she said "No, no. Please take it as a gift. My late husband made it and I want you to have it as a memory". We were flabbergasted at her generosity.
Later that night after we had a fabulous dinner, we decided to go for a walk. It was after 10pm and the streets were dark with only a few street lights. Everyone was gone. The streets were empty. YET ALL THE PRODUCE WAS STILL ON THE TABLES OUTSIDE THE SHOPS. Nothing had been put away, including all the very expensive items. It seemed to us that it was unheard of that someone would steal from these tables. Unbelievable honesty and trust.
That was just one wonderful experience out of many in the 3 weeks we traveled around that region. Japan and its people are truly amazing. I have been back a number of times on holiday and never had a bad experience.
@Maegnil Dianians stfu
@Aeyahul Dianyisas what do YOU know about their culture? Have you even been to Japan?
I think due to extreme environmental issues that Japan suffers like tsunami and other natural disasters, being in a remote area the cooperation between the people is well rooted. Honesty is the best policy in those times.
No surprise.
Stupid guy, when there are employment rate high, everyone dont need to steal, lie, and cheat. See America, kill, robbery, hate, lie, cheat, bully, all dirty things are happening.
@@fortdetrickvlab4838 No one asked chang
Japan is a clean place. Its like the whole country is OCD. lol I love it.
We kinda are. XD
@Ricardo Santos I definitely agree with you when it comes to that point. I live in Germany and the only thing which we had to do sometimes was sweeping the class.
I think in general we should teach the children better hygiene.
For example how to wash the hands the "WHO"-way.
That would definitely lower the amount of infections.
I learned that during university for microbiology practice and most people probably don't know about that.
Especially now during the COVID-19 virus outbreak and also in general during flu season hygiene should be top priority.
If it hits us hard few people will have sufficient hygiene.
please tell that to my japanese ex wife
china is also pretty clean
I bet that will be a selling point after this s&£t storm.
I am Japanese.
I'm proud of my country.
I also respect China.
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That's why I respect China, bro. We still use Kanji. I also have lots of friends from China n they are awesome.
You know what, I am not interested in politics since I was born after the long serious relationship between 🇯🇵&🇨🇳, learning past
history is important, but to make a better bond n make a delightful history together is more important.
@@chainsong32 No way. China is Japan's bitch.
Why Japan is China's mother ? Japan learns Chinese culture and uses Chinese characters. You won't learn culture and words from your son, will you? Generally speaking, mothers teach their sons to learn culture and writing.
@@zhx6922 I was just kiddding, zh. They are both great places. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
漢字読めない
Out of all the countries I've visited, Japan is definitely in my top 3 of all time. For visiting and for living.
Fr its great
Are you living in Japan permanently? Or just for school or business? You won't be accepted permanently.
What's your other top two countries? Trying to decide another country to visit. Thanks!
@@traveldoc1234 I am white and I became a Japanese citizen in 2010. Yes, it is not given to any Tom, Dick and Harry. I will grant you that.
wich are the other two?
Why some think he is a hater??This guy has lived in China for ten years.It is obvious he loves it.
Michel Zou China is also nice, We love you from Japan!
Michel Zou it's mostly haters who are chinese
I am no hater. I am a Westener. I have lived in China and in Japan. This video doesn't comment on the isolation you will feel in Japan if you live there for longer than 30 days. Japanese people are not helpful at all. Japanese society doesn't want foreigners to live in their country and you will have a very hard time if you try to integrate into Japanese society. I GUARANTEE that the OP would change his mind about Japan if he tried to move there and live there for 10 years. He would see that it is extremely hard to keep a good Job in Japan. It is extremely hard to marry a Japanese girl in Japan and in general, you will feel isolated if you try to move to Japan and live there. China, on the hand, will bend over backwards to welcome you as a foreigner. It is night and day.
@@Michael-fw5ef YES! Thank you! This is also why i love china. As a chinese, we had a bad history with japan( which i hope the get overwith) but i love the japanese culture in general, it is nice
@Neil Miranda Cool story, i actually agree with you. I lived with a japanese for some years now, since i am chinese i thought we may have some bad relationship(as friends). One day he approached he approached me and said something in japanese. I told him that i didnt understand. Later on he invited me to eat with him in a cafe, he started teaching me how he,(as a japanese) was superior and shouldn't be disrespected. Despite that, he is a very nice guy. He really doesn't judge people much.
I lost my wallet not once BUT TWICE while traveling Japan. Both times I just went to the counter (subway station and arcade) and saw the employee noting down the contents of my wallet. Absolutely incredible and I wish there would be a similar sense of mutual respect around the entire world.
Then Japan should maintain ethnic homogeneity. Japanese students returning from universities in the USA should be quarantined for 10 years.😂
There are a lot of reasons why Japan is like this. One of the biggest reasons is teaching children manners in school, something that would never be considered in the modern west...
id say at the time this was uploaded this was true but china has now overtaken japan
they behave like robotic retrievers
@@奤....Bullshit!! China will never overtake Japan!!
Japan, I CHOOSE YOU !
Welcome to the light side of the Force....
Anbuhiro
Thank you
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thank you from japan
@Gammy Leddack you get what you pay for...
I've been learning Japanese for the last 2 months. But for a reason this video gave me the motivation I needed to study even harder😁
Ganbatte! がんばって！Keep at it!
japanese is a torture to learn. like chinese
@@maegalroammis6020 I'd like to learn both languages
@@RomMor2 good luck spending fifty years
@@maegalroammis6020 Thank you😂
japan is really clean and the japanese are veryyyyyyyy polite
I was always under the impression that the Japanese don't like forginers and only tolerate them for the business they bring.
@@bit_aim are you japanese?
@@bit_aim so what is Japans opinion of outsiders then? I'm sorry to pry but I was always told that you guys aren't fond on outsiders.
@Gammy Leddack what was I right about? japanese not liking outsider's? I was hoping he'd answer that because I have interest in traveling to japan but if everyone is going to treat me like shit for being an outsider then why would I go there
@Alex K ok so I talked to my friend who is stationed in japan and he does say they are polite but allot of them, especially the older japanese give him a very cold look for being an outsider and certain stores don't serve him because he isn't japanese but they aren't hostile about it as he says they try to be as polite as they can and say they won't serve you but he says they don't speak english and just make an X with their arms to show you that "we don't serve your kind here"
Having lived in Japan and traveled in China, I would agree. In Japan if you drop your billfold , someone will grab it --- and rush it to the police station!
10000000% true
Also China!
@@xiaoyu.2162 yeah right
whereas in China - they snatch it from your pocket, backpack, purse, etc and BRAG about doing that.
M Chrysogelos Nono Nono,that’s like 10 years ago,China has security camera everywhere now,I live in China,and seriously,EVERY WHERE!
I was living in China from 2004 to 2015. I have also lived in Japan during 4 months in 2012. I love China like a 2nd hometown, really. I can say I feel much better living in China than living in France, which is where I was born. And I also love Japan, for different reasons, and I would also love to move there, or at least try.
And for all those posting bad comments from their homecountry, you just cannot judge a country from what you see on TV. You have to live there to understand, to appreciate, and to be "allowed" to criticize it.
Thank you so much. It's good to have some fair and honest opinion.
People can like or dislike a country, but vomiting like this on a country without even step there a foot is just dishonest.
la vérité est ici.
L'impression que j'ai avant je fais mes études en France est bien changé, il y a des choses que je pense vrais mais faux etc.
The observation give me the true view of a country rather than grabbing information on media, cuz media is always subjective.
Ommmmg, I am half french and half chinese, omg, you really spoke what my mind was thinking.
William Doublet Fair enough! So many people are judging others after watching one or two videos rather than seeing for themselves. Stop hate each other, China and the USA......
WATCH HENTAI
Japan is way better.
Japanese people have respect ✊ and manners
@Justin Wong Chinese can be nice as well. But they are mostly the young generations like students and new job holders. Old or middle aged ones have terrible manner. And they are very rude to their kids very often. Also very nosy.
I hope the young people of China will make the society better in future.
@Justin Wong I have seen how often old people treat their kids badly, yelling and screaming and others. I wouldn't say its a good manner. Chinese people usually pass it off as "oh those are just old generations being old generation". Also you're saying old generations were nice BCZ THEY FOLLOWED TRADITION MORE. Old times were not really good. People used to have repressive society. People used to prefer sons instead of daughters bcz it was more about profiting. There are so many other weird things in traditionalist societies. They used to pretend to be nice to strangers but to the people in their families they showed all the bad manners and not to mention nosing around everyone they have power over.
But I guess for different people see them in different ways.
For us, we really don't like traditionalist societies.
We as foreigners only like the festivals, foods and costumes.
And you don’t know that manners was all from China,the Japanese was learned all from China.
@@一橋輕雨 prove your point
You're right about that, don’t have to prove,in the Great Tang Empire, Japan send people to China to learn about some good things,including manners,right now the Chinese people’s manners maybe is not so good is just because history ,you know Genghis Khan and the Manchu, in this time,we just lost it ,and the Japanese was keep it,I think it's hard for you Westerners.
The Japanese have a lot of discipline and that leads to people being nice and clean. The world could learn from them. Not that they are perfect but to be that organized is definitely admirable.
Yes true, but dont forget that in some aspects the politeness has gone to the extremes which makes it hard for the population to be "just as you are". This has lead the country into people disappearing and even commiting suicide.
@@erfantavoosi100 What really surprised me was that the US has almost the same rate of suicides per capita (rank 30 vs 34). AND Americans are rude as hell too.
Japan is very restrictive in a lot of things. You're not as free as you think. Great place to visit, not a great place to work and be yourself.
japan has tyranny
@@419chris419 Yeah. You have to learn to conform or be an outcast.
Thank you for making this video, I am Japanese living Canada and became Canadian citizen while ago, visited both countries and like both countries. We both should appreciated each others without politically, Japan and China had a lot of interaction in our history and we should continue that.
canada>china>japan
Why are so many Chinese moving to Canada and Japan? New Chinatown in Tokyo
If you want to build a Chinatown, live in China.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
I would like to talk to someone here. can i have your attention? i met in a "japan vs china video" a japanese person called yu i .
i left a section when i explained why china is a better place to be than japan , then that yui showed up and told me "japan is better, are you chinese?" before staying silent. CAN anybody explain me what's wrong with her ? is that true that Japanese are patriotic or are only conscious of china issues?
because she doesn't explain me in detail why japan would be better than china, and when i told her that i am not a chinese (i am just a cultivated french), she still didn't answered me , it's been some months she talked to me like that ! it's not polite or rspectful! i saw that strange person on other japan videos. also if she don't speak well english why she replied to the ones in favor of china? any idea?
if she still didn't want to reply me here , can somebody else explain me why japan would be a better place than china and what was wrong with that person? please i need to know! yu i or somebody else here, please reply me frankly here!
I must admit, you give one of the best and unbiased comparisons on youtube..keep it... Best wishes from us...
+Sanket Thakare thanks mate, that means a lot
I have been living in Japan for almost 20 years and recently came across your videos via strange parts. Im relieved that you said at the start of this video that this is not about politics as its about living in each country. I believe that there are good and bad points of each country and love to watch vids on life in other countries.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
cant' compare. cost of living might be way cheaper in china but quality is 10000000% better in japan
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Here's my China vs. Japan story: In 2002 I (a Yank) was backpacking through western China on my way to Vietnam. Out of convenience I hooked up with a Brit -- headed to Hong Kong -- for several days of travel. I had Chinese language skills which helped him, and we were able to split certain costs. So, we arrive in Lijiang, in Yunnan Province. We get to our intended guest house and they've got two beds left. One is in a 3 bed dorm room and the other is in a 5 bed dorm room. Respective cost was 15RMB and 10RMB per night. At that time the exchange rate was approximately 8:1 (US$), so we were literally talking pennies. However, this guy was really trying to save on costs so he insisted on taking the cheaper of the two rooms. The current occupants of these rooms were out when we inspected the rooms so we didn't know who we'd be sharing them with. Turns out that I had a Japanese couple in my room, while he had two Aussies and two Chinese. We went out for a bite to eat and back to the guesthouse. Because we'd been traveling since early morning, we both retired quite early. After showering I went back to my empty room, turned out the lights, and closed my eyes. Before long the door opened and the Japanese couple returned to the room. Initially they turned on the light, but they quickly noticed that the third bed was now occupied. Off went the light. For the next several minutes, they took care of their business, quiet as church mice. I heard them whisper to each other a couple times and once or twice they turned on a small flashlight to take care of some matter. They went out to the bathroom and took care to close the door gently each time. The next morning I got up very well rested and met this Brit for breakfast. He complained of having a terrible night's sleep. You can guess what happened. At some point after he fell asleep the Chinese couple returned to the room. They threw on the lights, put down their food and drink, and then sat up for several hours eating, drinking, and talking loudly -- as if no one else was in the room.
Nail...on...head.
china>japan
@@giannilyanicks1718 China is awesome, the CCP are horrible.
It all comes down with respect to others. I noticed in SE Asia they would stop their car or tricycle and chit chat with a pal on the side of the road while blocking the whole traffic. Nobody honked cause they’re used to that.
Haha, you lucked out man/gal!
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
I haven’t been to China yet, likely will be visiting sometime later this year or early next. Excited!
That said, your observations about Japan, a country I visit at least twice a year are spot on!
From the artistry behind the food, to the near pristine cleanliness of its public spaces,
the culture espouses standards on a level that I’ve seen nowhere else and permeates the entire society.
And, that’s a good thing :)
I've worked in China twice. 2001 and 2010.
The 2001 trip was a nightmare from beginning to end. Altough we were invited by the government, I have some of the most incredible stories to tell about incompetence, rudeness and utter idiocy. N O T H I N G W O R K E D !!! Nothing was according to contract and noone was responsible for anything.
We went to Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Hong Kong. Hong Kong felt like a fresh breeze of civilized behaviour after suffering through the mainland madness.
We were pretty happy just to get out of there in one piece as the last idiocy almost had me and my collegue attacking a government official physically. Guess we wouldn't have left there ever if that would have happened.
However the 2010 trip was different. That time we went to Beijing and Shanghai. It was quite a different experience. I got to see another side of China and had a great time. F.e. the best meal I've had all my life was in Shanghai and work-wise the entire situation felt more professional and flowed (fairly) easy.
There are a few reasons why the trips were so different, but the biggest one is Status. The first trip we got the short end of the stick because the Chinese basically had misunderstood who we were. On the second trip it was very clear that we were a pretty high profile visit and was treated accordingly. Status seems to be everything in China. Also, almost ten years had passed and this could be felt everywhere.
I've worked in Japan too and absolutely love that country.
But being a westerner it sometimes feel you are like a bull in a glass-shop because of all the politeness and tidyness. This is not something you feel in China. There you better man up and stand your ground (which I kind of like).
In short I think that working in China really speaks to my Pirate/Entrepeneur/Adventurer persona as it is filled with challenges that will test your endurance in a character developing and "fun" way. Constantly making sure you are not being ripped off and having to show strength almost every second. A little bit like "the Wild East".
Working in Japan is just such a breeze as they are incredibly organized in their dealings with you. Everything is in order and the risk of being scammed is as Winston says, almost nil (if you don't deal with the wrong people of course, but you know if you are and have to blame yourself if that happens).
But if you want to get a little bit more adventureous China has a lot more to offer to the strong of heart.
China for adventure, Japan for tourism.
Yeah the growth is really tremendous. I left China in '95, and went back in '06. I was surprised they had easily accessible utilities, phones everywhere, and the nearby town of Ganzhou ballooned to a population of almost 1 million (we were visiting family, so rural areas). I can only imagine what it's like in 2018.
China is a BIG country with massive population, therefore most probably you will experience all kinds of different things/behavors , good or bad. But it is changing at an incredible speed, if you could go there every 5 years , you will be surprised how things have evolved /changed.
Good and fair summary.
theres a website HK sucks which is really funny and the Japanese are way more civilized and futuristic than chinese could ever hope to be and im sure that pisses them off! japanese drink and dance,chinese eat and shop!
china is better
I love Japan. The small convenience stores and supermarkets are amazing. I couldn’t believe how many varieties of Kit Kat you can buy. The food and craft beer is great and dining out is generally inexpensive. I look forward to returning.
My favorite is the wasabi Kit-Kat :)
it's stuipud how kit-kat has allowed the japanese to made many flmavors.
I would like to talk to someone here. can i have your attention? i met here a japanese person called yu i .
i left a section when i explained why china is a better place to be than japan , then that yui showed up and told me "japan is better, are you chinese?" before going silent. CAN anybody explain me what's wrong with her (something tell me yui's apparently a girl)?
because she doesn't explain me in detail why japan would be better than china, and when i told her that i am not a chinese (i am just a cultivated french), she still didn't answered me , it's been some months she talked to me like that ! it's not polite!
if she still didn't want to reply me here , can somebody explain me why japan would be a better place than china then? please i need to know!
yu i or somebody else here, please reply me frankly here!
Stayed in Japan for 3 months and love the country and the people in it. Respectful and well manner. Almost everything is clean and organized. Japanese takes pride in their arts and cooking to the max.
japan is good but chiana is very very baddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
@Ken narville see the garbage can next to you? stick yer iggy head in there
Ken narville
How do they manipulate?
@@prakashbairad3690 you can't even spell the right word about China
Prakash Bairad bruh your spelling is just painful to watch
The biggest distinction between Chinese and Japanese culture is not the difference in quality of life or technological development or infrastructure, but the fact that Japan is a very high trust society whereas China is a very low trust society.
Japan: Pristine, beautiful, clean, precise & polite - I pick Japan, you can keep China.
The worst thing is that some of the damage that is now being done will be permanent. That lead will stay in the environment forever and poison everyone who eats food grown in China.
As long as you , a foreigner is genuinely welcomed there , but I guess you don't care .
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I hope to visit both China and Japan someday.
I've lived in Japan for almost 8 years now and have lived in China for about a month. Japan is a very safe country, never lost anything here during my stay. China is not as safe as Japan. Japanese food is really delicious and looks amazing but sometimes the new comers and tourists would not get used to eating Japanese foods. Japanese people are really polite. But as he said Chinese people talk loudly. But I loved Chinese culture. I think Chinese are honest people no showing off... but in Japan people show off to be good most of the times. You won't know if someone is really unhappy because they never show it in Japan. It makes Japanese difficult to understand. But life in Japan is really convenient and the service is really good. People are really helpful. But Japanese people are not so friendly. I found that it's opposite in China. Chinese people are friendly and full of life.
but as a chinese i think talking loud is not a big deal ,
It depends on socioeconomic status. Among working class people if you're reticent and/or soft spoken they see you as extremely cold, distant, and unfriendly. You're expected to have little personal space, pry around a lot of personal information, and chat excitedly to show interest. But I find richer people to be quieter, talk less, and show a lot more restraint. I think a lot of the older generation (who've gone through poorer times) find the newer generation to be uncaring and unfilial, and the differences in communication play a part in it.
@Gamz Neddyl landscapes......LOL guess you never been to china
@Gamz Neddyl japan>china for the landscapes ,i konw china has the most diverse landscapes in the world and i live in japan now.
@Ken narvilleplease google china landscapes
I had the great privilege to have been stationed @ Yokota Air Base an hour west of Tokyo from '02-'06. It was a period of my life that I will never forget. Some comments. About the work ethic of the Japanese--the entire society has a sense of duty to the group, whatever that is, that super-cedes the individual. This shows up in a million ways, day-to-day, in all areas of life. The Japanese are unfailingly polite. Good manners are something that everyone practices at all times. So....when it comes to work, you do your best, no matter what your job is, because that's the right thing to do for the group (family, work center, team, company, etc.). Stealing is VERY frowned on, as is arson. Stealing breaks down trust in the group very fast, so people don't do it. This includes scamming. Hostess bars, it is universally understood, operate under a different metric. You know, whether you are Nihonjin (Japanese) or Gaijin (a foreigner), that those places provide you with young, pretty, engaging companions, and that while your drinks will be reasonable, their drinks will be expensive. That is how they make their money. Also, many of the hostess bars run on the clock, usually by the hour. Additionally, there are those hostess bars where the hostesses are actually prostitutes, but that's a subset, and as such their services are sex for hire by the hour, which is another subject entirely. The only other scam-type businesses are the Yakusa families---the Japanese Mafia. But they don't bother foreigners, as long as you don't bother them.
Anyway, with anything else, what you see is what you will get in Japan. It's a matter of good manners, face, and honor, to a degree. They don't lie, they don't cheat, and they don't steal. That being said, the Japanese are very careful with what they say. If you ask a Japanese for a favor and he doesn't want to do it for you, he will not say no to you directly, as it would cause an uncomfortable situation where either one of you or both of you would lose face. He might start inhaling his breath almost through his teeth, saying something like, "ahh, Pete-san, it is VERY difficult....VERYYY difficult to do that." Or something along those lines. What he's really saying is, "I want to say no to this request, but I can't because it would be very impolite." So, a proper response would be something like, "oh.....Yuki-san, please, please forgive me. It was so foolish of me to make such a silly request as that." Then he "forgives" you, you say you're sorry for having bothered him, there's a lot of bowing that goes on, and eventually, you both get a chance to back away from an awkward situation without losing face. Everyone goes home happy and the group integrity is maintained. Now, of course, in family situations, it's not like this all the time, but there is an element this that runs through the whole society. So...they do a LOT of interactions that are centered on politeness.
As far as stealing goes, you could drop a wallet stuffed with Yen on a subway, and some young dude who's dressed like a cross between a punk-rocker and a hood will come up to you, bowing, and holding out your wallet as an offering, and saying, "sumimasen, sumimasen," to let you know it's your wallet and that he found it. And....there will be no money or credit cards gone. And examples of this can be found every day all over Japan.
There is a flip side to the polite interaction, though. There's a phrase in Japanese that means "stated meaning", and another one that means "hidden meaning", and these two phrases are real encapsulation of what can go on. Being polite all the time because it's something you must do many times does not encourage the outside thinker, the iconoclast, or the rugged-do-it-on-my-own individualist. And a folk phrase in Japanese culture sums this up, "the nail that sticks up will get hammered down." And in many ways, it's true. The Japanese love to experience and at times absorb new things from new cultures, and very often come up with their own unique spin on them. They are great for taking an idea, putting 50 or 100 or 5000 people on it, studying every little piece of it, and refining it to the nth degree. But coloring outside the lines, even if it get things done better or faster? Not as much. And the Japanese who dares to go his own way? Well, he should live in a segment of society where interaction with the group is not as necessary. These people do exist, but to this day, they are still a minority.
The culture is a fascinating juxtaposition and contrast of the deeply revered ancient traditions and the cutting edge modern. You got a chance to see that in Tokyo with it skyscrapers on one block and shrines on the next. And even if the Japanese man or woman you meet is non-religious, they are still very proud of being Japanese, and proud of their country, its culture, traditions, and contributions to the world. If you want to see a couple of films that are fiction but capture the heart of spirit of Japan, I'd recommend Mr. Baseball with Tom Selleck for the modern stuff, and The Last Samurai with Tom Cruise for the traditional things. Both have good scripts and good acting and do a really good job of showing what it is to be Japanese.
That all being said, I would recommend living in Japan to anyone. I made a lot of good friends there, and will always treasure the times I spent there.
Respectfully,
PMH
Thank you for sharing your experiences man, really looking forward to traveling to Japan one day as well!
@@firstmoviesHD Doitashimashite, as my Japanese friends would say. You are very welcome.
Same here, thank you for sharing your experiences, that was nice to read, I too, want to visit the country as soon as everything goes back to normal after the virus.
Cheers!
I heard someone once say that Japanese culture has all of the good characteristics that you mention but is a long way from producing something like James Brown.
Damn u wrote a lot i literally didnt read any of it but i will like your comment anyway
Awesome video!!! This was great. Just what I was looking for. Thankyou. I love China and Japan! I really want to explore both sides !
China welcomes all the friendly people
Too bad chinese communists are the most unfriendly people.
I definitely go with Japan. I have always liked and admired the Japanese people and their country. I will visit the country one day, no matter how expensive it is.
China welcomes all peace-loving people
中国最不欢迎的是小美分和慕洋犬，评论里某人应该趁早自己滚出去。
As a South African that has been to both Japan (several times) and to China (several times) I can say that Japan wins hands down. The biggest downside to Japan is that it is more expensive. However...that aside I think that aside from the other points you made you I feel you did not fully address (even though I know you said you would not address politics but as to how that pertains to living in China, it matters)
1) the ability to breathe. The air and water in Japan is actually clean as opposed to how stunningly polluted and dirty China's is. Japan uses a lot of clean energy (wind, solar, electric cars), and half of everyone rides bicycles to most places. That's a huge win.
2) The freedom....plain and simple. The fact that you have access to any and all media (print, music, internet etc) without government censorship, banning and heavy handedness. Basically there is political freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech and association. You can put your fingers in your ears and go "lalalalala" all you want in an effort to ignore the politics but it's the reality and affects one's life. That too is a huge win for Japan.
And absolutely the manners and way of thinking and behaving of the people really matters. Japanese people have never ceased to amaze me in terms of their kindness and treatment of me as a guest in their country. I once traveled first to Beijing and then afterwards to Osaka. I have to say that the staff in Beijing airport were the most rude, aggressive, and hostile assholes I have ever experienced at any airport. While when I arrived at Osaka the airport staff could not have been more kind and nice to me and made the process of going through immigration border on a pleasure as opposed to the stress and anger I felt in Beijing.
You can call that an adventure all you want. But how I am treated as a human being matters to me. The Chinese still have a LOT to learn about how to treat people visiting their country(hint: not like criminals) And so Japan wins hands down for me.
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
Based
Love love love Japan.
Ken narville It is okay. There is no perfect country in the world. Even Japan has bad stories about local. There is always bad parts in all countries.
ありがとう
Ken narville Except the dark side is bigger in your mind. Your culture makes you disagreeable with foreigners. And stop following me.
@Yolanda Krieger
Agree with you. Briefly I lived and worked in Tokyo. The people were very friendly and kind. Would love to go back and travel throughout the country.
@@luv2travel2000 you were naive back then
I work in the tourism industry and I can tell you the that Japanese people are some of the most respectful, honest and honourable people I meet. The Chinese are literally the polar opposite.
Where do you work?
@@guacre2675 in the UK
they have no personnality
@@giannilyanicks1718 you're a hater, it's obvious
they are creepiuer than chinese
Ive been to both China and Japan and honestly i prefer Japan.
thats my personal preference.
Slush ROBLOX Murdered by fellow Chinese, Look it up"
Japan all the way, I enjoy having healthy lungs.
+ShelbieRayLoves I don't get it
+ShelbieRayLoves japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world
If there are tons of rapists in Japan, I can only imagine how many more are in China.
+NSX-R Japan also has the highest suicide rate
+Jack Cheng rates*
I agree with most of what you said. I have relatives who live in China as well as in Japan and I have visited both countries recently. I really love China, most people are very polite, there is so much you can do and the food is so diverse and generally it´s very inexpensive to spend time in China. Japan however is really exceptional in almost every way. I have never seen a country that keeps their cities so clean and I´ve never seen any other country, where the people are so civilizated and helpful. The mentality in Japan is what I like the most about this Country, we all can learn from them!
Japan is my favourite country outside of my homeland. People treat everyone with such mutual respect. ❤️ 🇯🇵
You been there
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheat, they refuse to be more open culturally , they don't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them, but many are, unlike 99% of japanese.
Developed country vs developing country.
Very true. China was in poverty barely 40 years ago. Japan was in poverty 70-80 years ago. Give China 20 years and it will be close to Japan.
@@nsebast not the culture
@@Shadow77999 It will. Dont you notice China, Korea and Japan have similar culture, architecure, religion etc. Give China 20 more years to catch up.
@@nsebast China and japan similar culture?? Lol. Have you even watched the video? Only think they kinda have in common are the religion and similar writing systems
@@Shadow77999 Yea religion, writing systems, architecture, belief system. It has the same root, why would it produce a different fruit? It wont be exactly the same cause that would be boring, at least 85% the same. Give China more time to develop. As the uneducated old generation pass, the new generations will be highly educated and it will become close to Japan.
Your a smart dude!!!! Japan 🇯🇵 for sure!!!! As far as politeness and courtesy
Michael
1 year ago
I am no hater. I am a Westener. I have lived in China and in Japan. This video doesn't comment on the isolation you will feel in Japan if you live there for longer than 30 days. Japanese people are not helpful at all. Japanese society doesn't want foreigners to live in their country and you will have a very hard time if you try to integrate into Japanese society. I GUARANTEE that the OP would change his mind about Japan if he tried to move there and live there for 10 years. He would see that it is extremely hard to keep a good Job in Japan. It is extremely hard to marry a Japanese girl in Japan and in general, you will feel isolated if you try to move to Japan and live there. China, on the hand, will bend over backwards to welcome you as a foreigner. It is night and day.
@@delongtsway953 I can only imagine my friend. Thank you for sharing your experience 👍🏼
@@litoloco4fish that'sv why you shouldn't go in japan
any more of those winston type videos on japan, like driving around on bikes, recording and talking about the environment, this whole documentary approach is interesting, I liked this one a lot
I LOVE Japan !
Very safe and clean and also a lot of fun. Very refined and polite.
Good video! I've lived in Japan for a while, and have only traveled in China (though I lived in Vietnam for years, which shares more than a few similarities). For people going overseas to teach English, which a lot are, and have no specific interest in Japan (and are perhaps looking for an adventure) I would almost be more quick to recommend China. The cost of living to salary will allow a lot more travel potential in country, as well as in the surrounding areas, and China overall just feels a little more alien and different to the 'western world'. I really enjoy Japan, and am enjoying it more now more than ever, but part of this is from having a fair amount of experience and decent credentials to move up the chain here (even if it is in the context of teaching English). It's fairly competitive here, and China just has a lot more accessible opportunities.
japan always!!
Good review, I have been living in Japan for 11 years and go often to China. Both are amazing countries with a lot of pros&cons. You need to know and accept them. Japan is an easier places for tourists and China is really an exiting adventure place! Guys you just need to enjoy both of them and no need to decide that one is better than the other... and stay awesome!
Xyz Abcd very interesting comment but not adding anything to the discussion.
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something.
BHO1811 Ikr why do people even choose between them? Both cultures are amazing and really nice so people should just respect both of them
I agree 100%
Let me say that objectively, China’s development time is only 30 years, and Japan’s development time is more than 70 years, so the comparison is unfair. China is changing all the time, including modern culture and living habits. Japan basically No change
@@dttth7192 Actually, Japan has changed a lot in the past 30 years.
I visited a pal in Sapporo, Japan and we went night skiing on Moiwa. We got a taxi after to a restaurant. An hour later I look up and see a guy walking towards us. I say “hey! That’s our taxi driver from earlier!” I remembered his face as I sat in the front chatting. He only came back with my ski gloves, which I’d left in the taxi and hadn’t even missed. I offered him a few yen, he declined with a smile. What a guy. Only in Japan.
So many stories about lost items, its just awesome. My favourite is that the japanese sometimes "reserve" a table outside of for example starbucks by laying their smartphone on the table. Then they go inside to order their coffee and stuff...
Of a far right group which was demonstrating against to many foreigners visiting kyoto..... But they were still very polite and one guy helped us with the luggage. I mean wtf
typical weeb story
love the fact that you film outside the ambient sound makes it better and music isn't beefed
needed*
+Abel +1
love japan from india.❤❤
If you love Japan, better immigrate to Japan, cause Japan is better than your country
vishal mishra ありがとう❤
Yazheng Li ooohhh roasted. Lol
vishal mishra 🇯🇵❤️🇮🇳ありがとう！
vishal mishra I love india from japan😍😍😍😍😍😍
Great video. Few points I would elaborate on. Personally, I have lived in China for only 2 years and Japan for 3. I agree with basically everything you said. Although...first, Japanese drinking culture is far more complex that "all you can eat /drink", there are numerous group drinking rules and customs to follow, something you wouldn't pick up from a few weeks travel. Second, you said Japanese was an easy language to learn! Come on bro, both Chinese and Japanese are some of the hardest languages in the world to learn to English native speakers. Third, China has a lot more to offer than what you mention, though at the end of the video you really nailed it. I wish you expounded more on the awesome adventures waiting to be had in China! Great video, thanks!
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
As always, I enjoy your video and your perspective very much, Serpentza. I've been to both countries and I fully agree with you. I really wish I could have stayed in China for a bit longer when I was young. That will be an incredible experience to see the evolution of a country. I really hope China can get better and better because it got so much potential. It's such a massive place and with such a mixed culture. Anyway, please keep bringing us your eyes by showing us more videos and ~ stay awesome!
What makes Japan such a beautiful country is the fact that there’s an intrinsic common sense of respect to others around you and to yourself...I’d say it’s the only county with those attributes. Prejudice does exist, but respect and decency still normally prevails...
id say at the time this was uploaded this was true but china has now overtaken japan
@@missplainjane3905 yes very much, i went to the parks in china in the times of 2017 and 2023 and the country has gotten much better! Japan hasn’t changed alot but i love the robots there !
If anything China has fallen even further behind. As serpentza said, the negatives now outweigh the positives. The CCP is a brutal dictatorship and with Xi coming to power, the country unfortunately took 2 steps backwards.
As a Chinese I have to say:Japan is a very special and unique country in the world.
卧槽，他还知道bilibili？！！
+Yinho Li 这句怎么不用英文。。
笑出声
李三月, I think you might be interested to know that, aside from recent history, Japan has always had a huge admiration for China since forever. Historically, Japan always admired China, especially the culture's opulence, especially because Japan is a country very poor in natural resources. So you see a lot of Chinese historical influence in Japan, and I think when it comes down to it, even Japanese people of today admit that China is one of the most important cultures in history, that have shaped the world to what it is today. This is all from a Japanese person :)
Pukurin Hart Shame we Chinese didn't preserve those treasures well. Sheer pleasant to read your comment. Best regard.
Thanks for the insightful video!
My parents are Chinese but I've been born and raised in Canada. I love learning about Japanese culture! It's such an interesting country. I feel like its the most different first world country out there.
Being Chinese I feel really critical on China. Especially in regards to manners. Since Canadians are stereotyped to be polite, I try my best to be polite in public to hold up that good stereotype but to also to reverse the Chinese stereotype of being rude.
Regardless of the countless negative points China may have. I still love it. Recently I've been really excited about all the growth China has been going through. I'm looking forward to what comes.
PigStuffy77 不需要
My parents are also chinese and i've also grew up in canada
*Let's get down to business, to defeat the Huns*
Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?
You're the saddest bunch I ever met
But you can bet before we're through…
Mister, I'll make a man out of you
From my observation, the younger Chinese generations are much better now when it comes to good manners because of their exposures to other cultures. The one that has bad or rude manners are the older and middle aged Chinese.
I love your way of speaking. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome narration. The way you present the story is so riveting.
If you know Japanese, why don't you make a series of videos in Japan? Would be so interesting.... 👍🏻
So basically Japan is better in nearly every aspect.
The inhabitants are the people who *make* it better. The only problem is that most people can't afford to live there.
I would prefer such a system to current systems in the West. I work as loss prevention and the law has been rendered largely ineffective in controlling the spread of crime, drug addiction, dropping property values, social loafing, intergenerational dependency, the rise of unintegrated 5-columns, and the proliferation of r-selected (low-quality) minority populations.
하 하, go finish your dog stew you fart-knuckle.
Emperor Palps Stick to your words, I love Korea and so does most of the world because of companies lile Samsung
dirac17 good, so why not stay in japan?
I am Chinese, I like this Video, very real and honest, no bias.
你这个卖国贼，别人说中国不好你还帮别人说话
you watch anime bro? 😂😂😂😂jk.. I binged all your vids. idk why.
+Anime Balls Deep yes I do
what anime do you watch :D
+Anime Balls Deep Deep Kaze no tani no Nausicaa is my favourite
nice, we both watch your videos, i think i binged all of them now, because we going to visit in 5 months or something, your cool as fk :)
+Anime Balls Deep thanks mate, hope you have an adventure!
I like your open, honest, clear and transparent presentation. Very insightful. You elicit trust in what you say.
Fascinating video.
I lived in Japan for about 10 years altogether. Stationed in northern Japan, Aomori Prefecture, with the U.S. military. I found your comparison of the drinking cultures interesting. Perhaps things have changed since I lived there last in the early 1990s, maybe it had to do with the military culture I'm from, but I found that my drinking experience in Japan was comparable to what you said about China. I used to go to one bar in particular which a few Japanese businessmen also went to and we all became great drinking buddies. To cut to the chase, it was the norm to fill our 4 or so ounce glasses to the top with whiskey. I had many a horrible hangover as a result.
And yes, the Japanese are incredibly honest and helpful. It used to be a common perception that you could send your 5 year old to the store with a 10000 yen bill to buy a 100 yen item and they would come back with all the right change. I found that insight to be very true.
Speaking of 5 year olds, one time I was at a festival with some friends and they had their young, blond haired daughter with them. The Japanese were amazed by her hair and everyone wanted to touch it. Well, one person grabbed the girl from the mother and then started passing her down the line so everyone could touch her hair. Talk about a distressed mom, but the girl was promptly returned no worse the wear.
Lastly, how helpful the Japanese are. I am a ham radio operator. I wanted to get a license in Japan and I simply walked into the headquarters of the Japanese Amateur Radio League (JARL) in Tokyo cold. The woman at the front desk, who didn't speak a lick of English, was flustered, but recovered quickly. She tracked down a man who spoke only a little more English who walked me through the entire process to get a license. Took a few hours. I would hope that would happen in America, but I am not optimistic. Another ham radio story: my radio kept breaking and the technician told me that if it broke down one more time, that he would travel the 400 miles to my home to figure out the problem and fix it...for free. His company had that much pride in their product.
Sorry for going on. I just found your channel today and it is fascinating. I dated a Chinese girl many moons ago and well, let's say she is the one who got away. I was always extremely interested in Chinese culture and I look forward to learning more about it from you.
Japan is the best!!!
China is good too.
Be Chinese living in Japan now, I almost agree with all of your reviews about living in Japan and China except one truth: when you live here in Japan for more than 3 months, you will desperately miss the diversity of Chinese food, which I mean you will get tired of the diet life with ramen, sushi, curry everyday. At least I am tired. BTW, thanks for your great video!
+xiao xiang thank you for the great comment!
+xiao xiang Learn to cook, youtube and google are still free. You get better overtime, and no, it doesn't take half hour or more to cook tasty food. Once you get a hang of it, 10, 15 minutes TOPS.
That's probably true. Though according to Michelin Stars, Japan still have to highest "quality" food in the world (fresh ingredient etc). So after being tired of Japanese food maybe you could have thried some French or Italian restaurant over there since the Japanese seem to have very good ones. I believe they also like Indian food though I don't know if the chefs they import are as renowed.
I don't know how you get tired of food in Japan when you could possibly find food from any countries you can think of if you live in or near Tokyo. Food selections are ridiculously diverse in Tokyo area. But I understand how you miss the real Chinese food made in China.
Since he's living there for three months he's probably mainly eating cheap food. That's probably a lot more limited to curry, ramen, and conveyor sushi.
As a Chinese , And lived in japan too, agree with the part you talked about two countries’ food, the stability of the food quality in China does fluctuate.
Would love to visit Japan someday!
I respect them for being polite and organised, rarely seen elsewhere.
The most different between Japan and China is that China is a multi-ethnic country. Not all the peoples in China are talking louder, it's due to pronunciation...I even can not understand what are they (the couple in the bus) talking about. Cantonese may be one of the popular dialects in China since Guangzhou is a major city in Mainland China. But most people speak Mandarin as official language which typified by the Peking dialect. I was born in Shanghai so I also can speak Wu dialect which be used only in Shanghai and Zhejiang. If you come to Shanghai, you will find the peoples here are more polite.
Your videos are fantastic. Very informative.
everyone: i love japan
china: *cries in corner*
Foreigners living in Japan reading this: "If I speak I am in trouble"
China doesn't need love from everyone. We Chinese are fine being hated.
@@wolfy6223 liars. And hypocrite.
So you should stop ussing u tube. And keep using your weibo.😂😂
@@memetinter2853 I'm not lying. Whether you guys hate us or not, it's not our business.
@@memetinter2853 It's fine to hate us, because we have done so much cruel things. I hate my own people too so it's fine to hate us.
Love your stuff Vince! I currently live in Japan as a westerner I got some culture-shocks here in there, but totally love this country.
Shout out for conquering Southern China.
Are you still there
I've lived in both and I will say this about them. From an environmental perspective Japan wins hands down, its just plain nicer. But from a personal relationship perspective I prefer Chinese people. Don't get me wrong the Japanese are lovely people, but I always found them to be somewhat reserved in an informal setting even when you know them well. I always felt like there was some sort of invisible hard to overcome barrier between us. This is not something I've found in China. As soon as I've been taken in to their inner circle then I have felt like one of the family, their generosity has blown me away at times and I really appreciate them for that.
On the subject of language, its very hard to compare the two. It is like comparing Russian to English. The written language has some crossover but the grammar and spoken languages are completely unrelated. From my perspective Japanese was slightly easier overall than Chinese due to a slightly more forgiving writing system and the absence of tones. But either one is a serious undertaking for a native English speaker.
Finally if you won't take my word for it then my Japanese friend who studied with me at Tsinghua has told me many a horror story about the working culture in Japan where she would regularly start work at 9am and put in shifts until 3am the next day. Working in Japan can be very punishing and she much prefers living in Hong Kong to Tokyo for that reason alone.
One country is clean and respectable. The other is loud, dirty and values money over anything else.
あなたの英語はとても聞き取りやすいです!!
英語の聞き取りの学習でよく閲覧させていただいてます😊
日本を明確な情報で紹介していただき、ありがとうございます😊
Really enjoying that vaporwave intro/outro music!
This guy is a wealth of knowledge WOW !
I lived in China for my first 16 years and lived a total of more than 2 years living in Japan. I don't agree that behaviors from the elderly in China are "bad" (as you mentioned). I believe that's part from the traditional culture that does not match "the western standard", people speak loudly so it feels more lively (热闹/にぎやか). I agree that the new generation in China is doing pretty well now, by this I mean they keep the good stuff from traditional culture and learn/adjust from other cultures. Btw, In Chinese, "Cheers" is 干杯, which is similar to Japanese version 乾杯. You can also interpret it as empty your glass as well?
My job is to transport Japanese ( Panasonic in Osaka) to Tesla everyday. My ex boyfriend lived in Japan for three years when he was a boy because his dad played base ball for the Chunichi Dragons. So I have somewhat gotten interested in the culture for these reasons.
The comment section of this video is disappointing.
A lot of narrowminded polarized views. Of either hating China or hating Japan. Did any of those people even watch the video? Serpentza clearly says that he's not comparing if either one is better but just some of the differences.
Both countries have their own advantages and disadvangtes.
Yeah but, so what?, that doesn't stop us from taking the differences he presents, and comparing and deciding ourselves, isn't the whole point of the video to present an unbiased source of information about these countries, so we can form our own opinion?, some people are going to watch this video and think that one country is better, that's fair, others are going to think that there's no better country or both are great or both suck, that's fair too.
Lol fuck off free speech bitch
+Ashley Lau you seem to have that selective type of hearing because he keeps stating that he's not putting down China just showing the facts of both places and not comparing one to the other as either one being greater than the other
That's because the facts are that China is still growing so the negatives will out weigh the positives. In 30 years I'm sure many of these things will change. Unfortunately I do not think that the cleanliness or personal responsibility will ever change in China.
Some people hate hearing the truth... It sucks but it's true China is very much behind other countries when it comes to cultural cleanliness and other things in society
Thank you for your video. As you mentioned, some Chinese people speak loudly in public place, that is not a good behavior. but when i studying in UK, i found British also speak loudly sometimes, more importantly when they laugh, they laugh in a extremely high voice, what do you think of this? i am really looking forward to your reply.
顶一下，这家伙也就是只看到了一些浅的东西，况且每个国家的文化不同，何必用日本人的标准去衡量中国人呢？
+Ming Sin Wong believe me, there are more in china, cant deny that
+Ling Kong yeah,so what do you want to say next? u hate china and shame on chinese?! by the way r u a quality man?！
+Wu Gang some of us have already noticed our problems, the news also report the uncivilized behaviour. the viewers began to pick up liter after competition, oversea students are polite as well. we are changing, but it need a period. somebody still label us as xxx, when Asians are doing something bad, they all consider them as Chinese. May be they just know China.
+Qunye Ren 他说的还可以， 比只知道黑别人的BBC 纪录片强多了
Japan developed much sooner than China of course. Japan is fantastic. Three negative points that stand out though, are 1.) high suicide rate 2.) long work hours with NO COMPENSATION for "overtime" 3.) low pay for outrageous cost of living. The Japanese work so hard. Its not fair they don't get to enjoy more free time. There should be a declaration of human rights to end long working hours.
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The high suicide rate is something that is caused by number 3 but it’s about the poor pay rate.
You need to understand ones' culture to really judge their behaviors. Japanese takes pride in their productivity and probably that's why they'll greet you "ganbatte" (try harder) instead of America's "taking easy". Just saying.
bite me Well I live in Japan and some people get sick of their work. It’s the way it is is what causes people to become suicidal. The workers are also treated unfairly like not getting sick pay and being forced to work even if you are sick. A woman with the flu (influenza) was a a train station and she fell into the tracks and got hit by the train because of her sickness and forced to work. I was at the incident, I feel that is the truth.
Ann An that is true, but I enjoy it at lunch time but it is also a good place for having a good night out because that’s where most salarymen go. They would obviously have to pay for their own food, they might not have to pay their rent.
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If you love Japan, better immigrate to Japan, cause Japan is better than your country
@MATHA NOSHTO-MAN you got it twisted. the dude is promoting Japan not China
"Japanese is quite an easy language to learn" - understatement of the year. Can only be uttered by a fluent Chinese speaker :)
It's quite easy to learn to speak Japanese at a basic level. Progressing beyond that is much more difficult.
@Gamz Neddyl Are they too lazy to learn English or are you too lazy to learn Japanese?
Maybe if you exclude the writing haha
It's fairly an easy language after you learnt speaking Polish
If you know Chinese, you need only to learn hiragana, katakana and Japanese pronunciation of kanji, the hardest part is behind
japan . i am indian but i vote for japan
i am chinese ,i vote japan too,maybe usa
@Blue Mu 看不懂，说汉语
Thank you for your neutral review.
I live in Japan and think it has many good things, but also many negative things.
What I learned is that every country has good and bad things.
How about those 2 big BBQ's in 1945?
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
for the ones who are going to disagree with me, explain me why japan would be better than china then. i am french by the way.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
chinese ladies are better to befriend than japanese. they cheats , they refuse to be more open culturally , they doesn't wants to learn english and are money-driven. chinese are more direct and open. not all of them but many are , unlike 99% of japanese.
Thoughtful concise presentation with excellent editing - just in 20 minutes!
Thank you very much.
I live in japan and the best part is not tokyo or osaka or the history or the food the best about japan is biking or driving in rural japan its beautiful and on the trips going to a mom n pop shop and get snacks while your riding
You propably have the best intro music on RUclips.
+meivin123 awesome! Glad you like it!
I love Japan products they are durable.
Meanwhile in China products are “made in china”
Seriously i bought a frying pan for a VERY cheap prize in a japanese store about 4 years ago and im still using it today
@@grade3328 ... Only 4 years old? LOL. One of our Japanese homestay students left behind a "Made in Japan" rice cooker when she returned to Japan in 1994. The cooker was made in 1992 and I still use that 28 year old device today. It works perfectly and never had any repairs. Meanwhile, some items that are Made in China" don't even function correctly new out of the box, and many are so poorly made that they fall apart after a few uses.
@@sbalogh53 yeah my point is its prize, for some simple comparison the fying pan like my japanese frying pan cost about 30$ meanwhile i bought it for dirt cheap 6$, man i just love made in japan
@@grade3328 ... I have two Japanese chef knives, one for sushi and the other for general cutting. I bought them in 2004 when I first went to Japan. I have never had to sharpen them and they are still razor sharp after much use. The Chinese chef knife I also had was thrown away soon after purchase because it could not even be sharpened. I could safely run it along my hand without risk of a cut. I think they must have been using a really bad grade of steel. On the other hand, with the Japanese knives you can see the pattern of layers of metal near the edge showing high quality of materials and workmanship. Of course the Japanese knives were much more expensive than the Chinese one. You get what you pay for.
Thanks for the great video! I think this video is really good for people who can think by themselves.
I just want to say, please don't compare like "China vs Japan" or "Chinese vs Japanese".(I know this video doesn't mean it. I think it was pretty fair.) Citizens are just the gathering of each, one person. Of course, they're grown up/educated in their way, but everyone is different and has something others can't understand.
I am just sad when someone says Chinese/Japanese is bad because ~~~. Let's say it's just because of him/her...
I'm a 21 years old Japanese girl. I am not used to English and not sure if I make sense. But I can't help to say that.
Love your series btw, I live in Hong Kong and have been to both countries often and I think your thoughts are spot on. It is obviously impossible to cover everything in a short video, but I would make a correction to yours, the drinking culture in Japan is actually enforced by the culture, as an employee you are required to go have a drink with your boss if you want to keep your job. This is true at least with most corporate jobs. Also, I think you should mention sexism in Japan compared to China, I will leave the thoughts of that for you to comment for China, but in Japan its pretty bad. My sister worked there for a global accounting firm and was a leader in the project she was on, the Japanese counterparts didn't take her seriously and would direct problems and questions to a male subordinate. She prevailed after a struggle but it's a constant struggle for women in Japan. I would like to hear your thoughts on women in China compared to Japan.
very true.
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Japan for the win!
China is better for genuine people. Not fake people.
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Awesome unbiased & objective analysis. Love your videos.✌️😊
我出生在中国，在日本长大
中国跟日本都是我爱的国家♡゛
私は中国で生まれて日本に育ちました
日本も中国も大好きです♡゛
。おさかな ur mom and dad are Chinese or Japanese？
好羡慕你啊～我是中国人但出生在西方国家。我很想去日本但我只会说中文和英语。
私はあなたがうらやましいです-私は中国人ですが、私は西洋の国で生まれました。日本に行きたいのですが、中国語と英語しか話せません。-Google翻訳から
@通りすがりのカナダ人 it's so glad so see japanese don't hate chinese.i'll visit japan soneday and of course with good manner.😄
China very ugly people racist to Africa people
中国は千年以上日本の師だったのに、他国の尻馬に乗って中国人を悪口雑言するような恩知らずな事は自分はしたくない。
そりゃ現在色んな問題もあるけど、かつての先生筋への親愛と尊敬を忘れてはいけないと思う。
時代遅れと言われてもそういう礼儀や情誼を失った時、日本文化も崩壊すると思う
I experienced the same. I absolutely love Japan. I have spent months there and as soon as COVID dies down I plan on moving there for six months. Even the hanging subway handles in Japan are spotless during rush hour, which seems impossible.
as a chinese i like japan because the country is very similar to the tang-dynasty of china. whether the culture and the good manner of the people. really miss the old china.
Couldn't agree more...In truth, Japan has been preserving the great Chinese civilization much better than the current communist China. The PRC stupidly had cut its tie with the past brilliance of China the world admires due to the socialist revolution movement.
averagejoe i dont think it is mostly because of the party. it is mostly cause of the poetry for the past century and the fallen of the qing dynasty that leads the people's manner fallen too. living standard is the main problem i think. ;( although the young generation is caughting up! really glad to see that XD
+Vivian Zhu Mostly not because of the party? You must be brainwashed. The cultural revolution, instigate by the CCP, deliberately, systemically, and ruthlessly wiped out Chinese traditions and culture in China.
hehehe who ever have opposite view as you are all brainwashed by the government
Vivian Zhu No. That is not the reason why I said so. Instead this is why:
1. They do try brainwash their people constantly. Evidence? Tight censorship, controlled media, manipulate news information, carry out massive propaganda: against the west, US in particular, and glorifies the party, twist historic facts.
2. The CCP tried to wiped out the culture in the cultural revolution (along with some other political reasons). This is a historic fact and the effect was profound in my opinion.
3. Blaming poetries instead of the ruling party for the mess is just absurd.
Therefore, I concluded that it is the result of brainwashing.
So imagine two products of the same kind:
One is "Made in China", the other one "Made in Japan".
Which one will you choose?
I would choose the one with better quality. I don't care if it's from china or japan
Made in Japan ofcourse
@@namelessguy9203 china not has quality
@@yuryorlov3572 In the last few years, Chinese products have enhanced their quality significantly
@@namelessguy9203 I don't really care that. The only product of quality from actually china is the Covid 19.
Well said, good stuff man! Thank you! Helps me appreciate China more.
''Take a while to catch up to Japan in social politeness'' Please. Nobody is catching up to Japan in social politeness, they have basically perfected the art of being polite.
Japan and Canada have perfected the art of being polite. But maybe Japan does it best!
@@jimsmith2844 canada is not polite to indigenous people and to those who don't conform to the fanatic w0ke religion.
Whenever I visit my home country, people tell me they can tell I've lived in Japan because of my mannerisms, which include bowing, smiling, and showing reverence :)
japan isn't a good place to go compared to china. its locals are fake robotic people who treat foreigners like outcasts and things. they're not good to befriend. they only thing to work work. They pretends to be nice with you without really be. they show you their real face only when they gets drunk. it's just stupid. plus even if their country is popular, they makes zero efforts to make sure their compatriots gets used of foreigners and also making their prices cheaper. nothing has changed in 2021-22. most of em still think they lives in national isolation. Pathetic.
China on the other hand is much better. generally More genuine and natural people who are slightly easier to befriend (and they doesn't need to get drunk to show you who they are), cheaper rent and services, more welcoming atmosphere. China definitely wins.
unlike japan which is just a stricter copy of China.
Japan and China have both beautiful places and sceneries, unique characteristics... but that's true that Japan is much more clean compared to China, people are also more polite etc... Though, China is a complexe and rich country, with its 56 and more ethnicities. That's not the case of Japan which is more homogene and is almost composed only of japaneses (aside the ainus people...).
I thin I'd prefer to live in China, because you can feel more relaxed, you can breath and make easely friends... Japaneses have this attitute to keep, this over-politeness to have all the time, this comedy, they always fear to be judged, they're not really natural... I like when people can be themselves and express themselves without being ignored or bullied for their differences.
When Chine will reach more education and a better standing of life, it'll be the best place to live in Earth.
Thank you for speaking the truth!!! I think it is a form of teaching. Thank you for making videos about China and put it out there. I'm a Chinese Canadian/American, but technically, I'm an adult third culture kid. I think it is a blessing that I get to living in developed countries like Canada and America. I wish I could say the same about China. I definitely prefer clean and polite. China is a beautiful country with rich history. But It is so terrible and sad to have 1.4 billion people living in there but don't take care of the land properly and don't respect it. And with so many people in there you would think people ignorant of other people would be the last thing need to be educated about, it would be natural. But quite the opposite when comes to considering that everybody's freedom is limited.
Chinese people are usually loud and lack mannerisms.....always looking for an angle!...looking to get over ....on things they can take advantage of any situation........Japanese people are a lot more sophisticated and dignified....and very polite.....period...
I agree!!!
Very very truth.
I am chinese and I been working with chinese people all my life. Probably 90 percent or more they are exactly who you describe them.
China has a very huge population...At least 1400000000.....