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The Top 5 Reasons Why People Join Cults
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
- I’m going to share 5 reasons why people might join a cult. Hopefully, this will help shed light on why otherwise rational people might find themselves drawn into the orbit of a cult.
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00:40- #1 A Sense of Belonging
03:03- #2 A Search for Meaning
05:39- #3 Charismatic Leaders
08:43- #4 Desire for Change
10:34- #5 Vulnerability and Manipulation
15:18- What is Indoctrination
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In a nutshell: it’s dangerous to care more about community, charisma, etc than what’s actually true.
Very good video!
The tricky part is when charismatic people assert unfalsifiable claims as the truth.
Then it becomes a question of your faith in the dream they’re selling.
And, of course, the other followers are told not to associate with those lacking faith, discouraging you from thinking critically about the group and its doctrines.
Many cults start because their leader believes they have exclusive truth. Some church denominations toe this line too. "We're the most biblical New Testament church." "We're getting back to pure and unadulterated Christianity." "Other denominations try, bless their hearts, but we're the most theologically sound." Many cults have great theological statements but an unhealthy culture when it comes to caring for people as Jesus did.
I studied with JWs when I was in my teens and early 20s and they go after vulnerable people. If you're from a single mother household, or say your friend passed away they capitalize on peoples vulnerabilities.
The most saddest documentary that I watched was about Jonestown. I lost it when they showed dramatize scenes of the precious children being poisoned. So disturbing and very sad.
I watched a video once years ago that had (or claimed to have) actual audio from the poisoning process, and the screaming still haunts me… especially the children. I can’t even imagine the evil that would brainwash and drive people to something so horrific.
That hits me hard too.
Same here. 😢💔
Same same! I shutter to think that 250,000 little ones are not even given a chance to be born....
@@laurenammond6980the silence that followed haunted me.
Yup.
Cults doesn’t just hurt the people in it, but the loved ones around them who couldn’t do anything to help them!
About what you hinted at, 14:00, I’ve noticed that some churches use music to emotionally gaslit people. It’s disturbing. The amount of people I see online who used to go to churches where it’s basically a big concert, eventually left because they found the same feeling when at secular music concerts.
We shouldn’t be using worship music to play with peoples emotions, we’re supposed to be worshiping God. And I’m not saying people can’t feel emotional while worshipping, I’m more so saying that it’s forced on people in a lot of these concert like settings, and that’s wrong.
Couldn’t agree more! God bless you for posting this!!
I grew up in a church that sang the old hymns. By which I mean songs written in the late and early 19th and 20th century. These are not songs that just repeat a touchy feely chorus over and over. Most of the songs had 5-6 long verses that helped explain different aspects of God, purposes of God, the plan of Salvation. And the revealed beauty of God and His salvation moved me deeply with joy. I stopped listening to the Christian radio station in my area because a catchy tune with a strong beat may get my feet tapping as I sing the same few words over and over but it doesn't move me to awe the way the profound verses of the old hymns do.😊
@pmc2999 hey my church is like that too! I agree, it's the truth in the lyrics that moves me, but beautiful (not necessarily catchy) music that accompanies it makes it even better
@@pmc2999I also grew up singing old hymns, from the 19th century to the 20th, and they mean more to me than a few words repeated over and over again to a hypnotizing tune. There are some pretty good, modern Christian songs too, but they’re hard to find.
@@pmc2999I use my Bible with the hymns! Such glory! Sing hymns, songs and spiritual songs, making melody in our hearts to the Lord. Ephesians and Colossians
11:00 raised jw, i will NEVER forget the talk where the brother said that he was advised to look for houses that used to have kids toys in the yard and now didn't, because they may have lost a child and would be more receptive if you played to that.
Sick!
This verse below really helped me discern between actual scripture and well-meaning people’s “beliefs.” Test the “wisdom” that you are getting against this verse and the rest of scripture and ask yourself if it lines up.
“But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.”
James 3:17-18 NIV
Thanks 😊
That's good scripture to meditate on! Thank you!
Lovebombed and fell into wof and nar without knowing it. Was taught not to question anything and primed for deception as a young adult.
I joined the Mormon church years ago because they have a very clean way of living. No smoking, no alcohol, no gambling etc. I knew that the doctrine was wrong , but a lot of my catholic friends had gone down the path of drunk drugs and divorce and I didn’t want to end up like that. Long story short, I left LDS and am now in the evangelical church. My biblical knowledge has increased significantly and I’m impressed by the biblical knowledge of most church members.
JOHN ANKERBERG JAshow_o_r_g and RUclips
MORMONISM (teaching disagrees with New Testament)
MORMONISM - ZONDERVAN GUIDE TO CULTS
REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES WITH THE MORMONS - Ron Rhodes
LEAVING MORMONISM: WHY FOUR SCHOLARS CHANGED THEIR MINDS - Lynn Wilder
FALLING INTO GRACE: HOW A MORMON APOLOGIST STUMBLED INTO CHRISTIANITY - Michael Flournoy, Lynn Wilder
UNVEILING GRACE: THE STORY OF HOW WE FOUND OUR WAY OUT OF THE MORMON CHURCH - Lynn Wilder
THE MORMON ILLUSION WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE LATTER-DAY SAINTS - Floyd McElveen
MY KINGDOM COME THE MORMON QUEST FOR GODHOOD - Ed Decker
GODMAKERS WHAT THE MORMON CHURCH REALLY BELIEVES - Dave Hunt
FAST FACTS ON MORMONISM - John Ankerberg
MORMONISM UNMASKED - Philip Roberts
THE MORMON MIRAGE - Latayne Scott
(Thanks - Dave Strong)
GREAT to hear your latest testimony -- Jesus bless you !!
What does the LDS church have to do with cults?
@@jacobmayberry1126 MORMONISM (teaching disagrees with New Testament) For example -- You can become a god, each god has a wife and children, there are inumerable gods
JOHN ANKERBERG JAshow RUclips
MORMONISM - ZONDERVAN GUIDE TO CULTS
KINGDOM OF THE CULTS - Walter Martin (Latest edition)
REASONING FROM THE SCRIPTURES WITH THE MORMONS - Ron Rhodes
LEAVING MORMONISM: WHY FOUR SCHOLARS CHANGED THEIR MINDS - Lynn Wilder
FALLING INTO GRACE: HOW A MORMON APOLOGIST STUMBLED INTO CHRISTIANITY - Michael Flournoy, Lynn Wilder
UNVEILING GRACE: THE STORY OF HOW WE FOUND OUR WAY OUT OF THE MORMON CHURCH - Lynn Wilder
THE MORMON ILLUSION WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT THE LATTER-DAY SAINTS - Floyd McElveen
MY KINGDOM COME THE MORMON QUEST FOR GODHOOD - Ed Decker
GODMAKERS WHAT THE MORMON CHURCH REALLY BELIEVES - Dave Hunt
FAST FACTS ON MORMONISM - John Ankerberg
MORMONISM UNMASKED - Philip Roberts
THE MORMON MIRAGE - Latayne Scott
(Thanks - Dave Strong)
@@jacobmayberry1126Hmmm. Let me think 🤔 🤨
At least the person talk about the LDS church has more to do with what melissa says on cults than those keep on talking about get rich quick schemes. I have never heard her endorce that.
My family left a church that had become cultish. The pastor was very charismatic, replaced staff over time with broken, hurting people who looked to him as their savior. Our family left a couple years ago and the change in our kids is ASTOUNDING!!! We knew something was wrong at that church but could never put a finger on it...and our kids grew up there and we thought things were alright for them (except that only the pastor kids were getting attention from the youth pastor and our youngest hated Sunday school and stopped going). So when we left, their growth has been amazing to see! Like flowers blooming and coming alive. Thank you for making this video! It resonates and is very good information!!
These are almost the exact same reasons why people get sucked into romance scams
You have described MLMs, Fraternities, and Sororities very well
Thank you for this insightful video!
Great video!!! I get attacked by a political cultists regularly because I question things and would like some answers, don't blindly support when things in the past done that harmed many Americans haven't been addressed. I am attacked and called names and accused of supporting the "other side" even though I am on the same side of issues politically..🤷🏼♀️ Not allowed to ask questions or be gaslit and thrown away. 😅
After many deaths in my family and a hurricane my best friend thought he could get me to join the SDA. Thankfully the Lord had instilled in me the truth necessarily to stand against his reasoning. When he said, "So it's okay to murder and cheat on my spouse?" I responded, if you're a Christian why would you want to?
He finally stopped being my friend because I wouldn't come around to his thinking. I however have never stopped being his.
🕊️🙏🕊️
The same thing happens when people figure out Christianity is BS and leave. They want to keep their friends but Christians start shunning them
Good for you! Stand strong!
God bless you!
Yes...JWs like to use the word 'inculcate' in place of 'indoctrinate'. A LOT.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿
Prayers out for those that are living who have been affected by cults 🕊️
His grace and mercy be upon you and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯
You hit the nail on the head. The Swiss psychiatrist Dr Carl Jung explained these reasons too. I admit that I went through difficult times myself when I was a young man searching for the meaning of life, belonging somewhere, and finding peace, joy, and harmony in my life. I investigated a few regions but they never gave me anything. I am fortunate that I have a strong will and I don't base my self-esteem on the opinions of others. I learned to manage my fears and not be manipulated by fear.
Thank you Melissa. Those were the exact reasons how I got recruited into the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Thank you for your words of warning. All believers should see this for themselves and to teach their children. Be a blessing.
"love-bombing" would be the wrong tactic to use on me. Emotional appeals wouldn't. But I must be aware and wary of the others you mention. Thanks. a well-grounded person would be in a better position to recognize something that isn't right. This video also puts a light on the need for knowing Scripture, but also for a good understanding of proper biblocal theology and doctrine.
God designed the ultimate model of group fulfillment, the worldwide Church, to meet peoples' needs. It's centered around Christ and His gospel. Following God is the greatest purpose, so people find true fulfillment in serving Him, loving one another, and caring about the world around as Jesus would. Identity is found in Christ, not the world around or a human-appointed leader. Cults (and many other organizations) are sadly Satan's twisted counterfeits of the Church.
Melissa, love your channel. God bless you and your family.
One thing that is hard is many churches act like the only connection that is valid is marriage. If not married, then obviously not God’s will. As someone who was severely abused and neglected, it is pretty disheartening. How does one learn healthy ways to interact with normal relationships, without the pressure of romance? There are a lot of emotional and spiritual orphans out there. (This is not for a lack of trying. Been a Christian for over 30 years trying to find a church to find healthy community with.)
I don't have any advice for you but I'm in the same boat! I have no idea how to form relationships and the fellowship/church aspect of faith is extremely difficult for me. Romance is definitely not in the picture, but as you said, marriage is a BIG deal in a lot of churches. A lot of singles feel left out. I'm sorry that you went through abuse and neglect but I really applaud you for trying to find a church. I pray God guides you to a good place.
This is my problem in a nutshell-however I am married. I suffered sexual abuse (grooming) and neglect as a child. I struggle with socializing and making friends. I don’t think many churches understand the difficulty of the situation or how to handle people who are withdrawn or also be introverted. I haven’t seen much support for or fellowship opportunities for single believers. My church is not good at fellowship period, so I went to “the church” other believers from other churches to find fellowship opportunities. Sorry I don’t have a great answer for you.
@@BriJenell I have finally found a church I feel welcome and have gotten involved, but relationships are definitely on the shallow side. If we are not to be unequally yoked, how do we find like minded people if not at church, yet churches do nothing to be relevant or welcoming to singles as a whole. I am trying to connect my church to a singles group that has no home. They have been struggling due to lack of stability and accountability. I am trying.
@@NikiLarson-gs2yb I don’t think they do. Most of leadership have been married for most of their adult lives and have grown up in Christian families. So hard for them to understand. At least my church will acknowledge they don’t know how to respond to victims of trauma. That is a start. Sorry you went through all that.
@@me-lr1vsWhom the Son sets free is free indeed! I would encourage you through my own suffering- please find a study (a real study) with people who encourage your growth. I don’t do any Lifeway studies because they are emotional based (a reference Melissa mentions in the video). Think Beth Moore and other celebrity “Christians”. The best thing I found to do after trying more secular leaning “Christian” self help type books was to dig into the word by myself first. I was lucky to find a mentor that was more like a father to me and was wholly supportive of and determined to guide me in salvation through faith. I’ll be praying for you to find such a person. Much Love and Gods Abundant Blessings!
God help us all.
Thank you Melissa❤South Africa
So good! I don't know if anyone here is familiar with the Animorphs. It's a children's series. But the Sharing organization in those books preyed on people who were lonely and wanted a sense of purpose by hosting social events and telling people how much their lives could change if they just joined the club. There was a lot of secretiveness around it. The people who eventually did got infiltrated by aliens and became recruiters themselves. lol Extreme example but this video reminded me of that!
That was wonderful and short enough to watch again so it really sinks in...great points....we need to seek after truth, always
Lady! You are hitting so many of my thoughts lately.
1. I was recruited to an insurance MLM. I wasn't there long, PTL.
There were definitely elements of them trying to exert control in my life.
2. I've been binging Mike Winger's The Passion Project.
You said "claiming spiritual authority" which really got me with regards to Brian Simmons and TPT. I just see that he is toeing the line of claiming to be the one Biblical "authority on earth."
Ya, stay far away from the passion “translation”!!
Employers, military... The list is endless where you are invited up to the inner circle as long as you pledge allegiance to the Idol.
Thank you for this topic.
Thank you, Melissa
That’s why many deconstruct. They often fall into the trap of a type of “Christianese” that’s not biblical…. When they realise, this “christianese” is man made, they leave, truly believing Christ is a lie.
But it was their hearts that desired a different Christ and waking up to the reality…. Make them walk away. Sad because they don’t want to pursue Christ who is the truth, the way and the life, a glory who is waiting for them.
Melissa, you covered the topic of the draw to cults perfectly, which makes this time period so dangerous, as so many people are lonely and may have lost their ties to other humans. Maybe that is why peer groups exist all our lives, and many parents will do things to their children just to fit in. I love your research and analysis on many religious and cultural issues.
good video Melissa! your very good at presentation.
Thank you sooo much for your ministry Melissa 🙏🏼
Well done! Thanks for the great information
Nailed it once again! Very valid and solid talk!😎👍
Good stuff melissa,thank you God bless.
Thank you Mellisa interesting
You rock for this video. A good way to fight back, even if indirectly.
This is very helpful in understanding a friend.
Go ahead and speak that truth and exposed the darkness. Keep exposing it, because cults absolutely exist and prey on the weak/vulnerable. Appreciate you for your videos and researched information sharing.
Another great video Melissa.
Thank you Melissa!
Hi Melissa , thank you for this. Could you share insight and perspective on deliverance ministry and NAR a little more in upcoming videos?
Great work
amazing video
The main reason is, they are not born again, and fall for religions, and by not knowing the word of God are tossed to and frow, they need to be given the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believes.
#3, Perfect description of the Austrian painter.
Sometimes you can have otherwise sound and alive Christian churches, which slide into cultic patterns.
The 'heavy shepherding' of the 1970s and 80s was an example.
It's tricky because commitment and accountability are necessary, but these can become distorted into patterns of unhealthy control and dependence.
So happy when i see you
My mom , no education, abused child , bad marriage JW
Thank you, for sharing this.
Would you please do one on brainwashing?
YWAM - Youth With A Mission!
I have been too independent all my life & have questioned everything & everyone including my parents. Carisma turned me away. Maybe this was good because I searched for my own answers & have always had to "know that I know" & this was my quest to find if Christianity was TRUE. No one tells me what to think except for God & that is not exactly how God works
Victory chapel cfm perfectly fits this.
By your definition, true, Biblical Christianity is incapable of being indoctrinated, since proving all things is commanded to all individuals, including the quality/salvation of leaders.
It's amazing how much i thought i knew about why I'm here, where I'm going, etc... the big questions about life we all have, and how much pride was associated with that "knowledge" when i was LDS... it feels so good to repent for that pride and to be ok trusting God and maybe not having all the "answers". Life's much more of an exciting adventure!! I visit with jws weekly, and i totally see the pride in them that they have the "truth"/"answers". The truth is that what God has in store for His children is much more wonderful than we can even comprehend. And it doesn't require secret handshakes, key words, tokens or any other of a long list of "requirements". His Doctrine is simple: repent, be baptized, and follow Him. That's it! Anything more or less than that cometh of EVIL, as He says Himself. Problem is people don't think that could mean what it does and create a .myriad of checkboxes.
- the need want and desire for connection is Be cause of Love
Thank you for defining indoctrination so clearly. I feel like that word has been overused and misused.
Repeating an answer to a question "What does the LDS church have to do with cults?" asked in a thread.
"For starters, the LDS doctrines depart from orthodox Biblical theology. The LDS also present themselves as the true church with teachings exclusive to the LDS that Christians are missing, which is no surprise since the core of LDS teachings are not Christian.
A good place to start is the teachings centred on Jesus Christ. Hint: Jesus and Lucifer were not brothers, as the LDS teach".
I was 'guilt ridden' by groups if my doctrine or experience didn't match with theirs. In my case there was a spirit of 'condemnation' by Oneness Pentecostals if I didn't submit to their 'baptism'. Never submitted to them.
No one willingly submit to cults but are intimidated into them.
When the book is going to be released!?😉😉
Can't wait!
Unfortunately, what you are describing is true for many Christian Churches. I like to ask questions and understand "why" things are done a certain way. Usually, this is tolerated a little bit but many times I am shut down and told "that's just the way we do things".
Yes, and the people that call themselves Christian’s and do those things are wrong. I’m sorry that has happen to you. I wish people would be open to answering questions, and if they don’t know the answer looking into themselves.
Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, if you abide in my word, you are my disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. John 8:31,32
Not about me me me III it’s about looking after the children and the women that are in need all we need Lord Jesus Christ wisdom bless you in Jesus name
Charisma...isn't there a magazine called that? 🤔
happend to Allison Mack from Smallville
dead on In The aspect of the Leader can do no wrong and have all the amswers promises on novelty ....
The interesting thing is that every susceptibility is something that was designed in us that God is supposed to fulfill, and did so to the first two in the garden of Eden until their rebellion and fall now inherited in us.
You dropped NOTHING but GEMS. We should do a collab. I’ve made similar videos we think very similar.
6:10 - I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly trust in Jesus' name. 😊
I regard you a friend, Mel; let’s be cautious not throw all our Charismatic friends (very much the anti-denom that became popular from the ‘70s forward). Yes, it’s all to simple to swerve into Charis-mania; as our Word of Faithers do? Teach it, my sister!
- as the needing to find as your name and it's meaning when so of the heavens to than know your purpose within and as God
What?
Sound went mute...
Melissas whole cake book
Ironically, I've always seen Melissa as a charismatic leader who can do no wrong. What do I do now?
Haha. Repent! She would tell you that herself! But if she ever says, I've got the whole truth and you don't... Follow me! Then run!
***Help*"" (I am asking for clarity, not trying to be mean) What is your understanding of Adventists? I understand that Sabbath is Saturday but I feel like they are only consumed with Saturday. ***Help***
Sorry, this comment above is for another channel not yours bless you and all your ways in Jesus name
She should do a video on the top 5 reasons folks join Christianity
Same could apply to literally any other religion.
@@safeeffective385 Exaclty
Or maybe better phrased "Why Christianity is NOT a religion" (and God's evidence = Fulfilled Bible Prophecy ETC)
@@dstrong86bluecoffee Anytime man speaks on behalf of a deity, you are dealing with religion. You can try to change the definition of religion as much as you like but Christianity is a religion. You get all religion from man. The only way to a man made god is to go through the men that created the god.
Even the Bible mentions 'religion' in positive terms in several verses
I'll let you do the research
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The "lockdown" protocols were established by teams of behavioral psychologists, historians, and anthropologists... and not virologists, immunologists, and epidemiologists as one would expect in a "viral outbreak/pandemic".
Think about that one for a bit.
I'm favoured, Getting my own Truck has always been my Dream for my business. I just acquired 2 recently, earning $32K weekly has been really helpful. I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support Charity Organizations.
God bless you and your family more abundantly, Amen!!
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
0:02 It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
Thanks to Ms Elizabeth Marie Hawley 🙌❤️✅✅
Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me
I agree with the beatiful Melissa
All great points. Great job in realizing these truths. Excellent job, now, applied them to every christian doctrines and denomination and you tell me if any of those applies to your religion.
Exactly. My ancestors joined Christianity because they were enslaved by Christians and forced into Christianity. But the Christian wants to talk about bad about other cults.
Nailed it
Jws
Church of Christ, international Christian Church… definitely fit the pattern.
Hallelujah!!! I’m favored and blessed with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and also support the work of God and the church.
Oh really? Tell me more!
This is what Ana Graciela Blackwelder does, she has changed my life.
After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.
I know Ana Graciela Blackwelder, and I have also had success...
Absolutely! I have heard stories of people who started with little or no knowledge but managed to emerge victorious thanks to Ana Graciela Blackwelder.
You're a great teacher Ms. Melissa 😁👍🏾
“And they probably have done away with gender” 😉
Calvinists have adopted all these, honed them and employ them everyday!!!
John 6:44 is your weapon.
This comment doesn't even make any sense. Calvinism doesn't even have a leader. Touch grass or at least find a new obsession.
There are plenty of big name leaders,,, john MacArthur, John piper, rc Sproul, Albert Mohler and countless others.
I can’t stand Calvinism, but no I don’t think its followers fit this.
I think that verse favors Calvinism more than it disproves it. But hey, if you want to make war with fellow believers over second and third rank issues, be my guest.
@@GratiaPrima_ what's funny is that most people I've encountered who see a Calvinistic demon behind every tree, also happen to attend a church with like 6 people and have a pastor with absolute authority and control over the congregation who doesn't allow them to read any Bible version except the KJV.
Good to see Michael Beverly completely destroy this video
Could it be why they join Christianity too? It is a very interesting video. Sometimes I wish I was Christian, but nothing makes more sense scientifically than Hinduism.
I recommend you read the Bible and ask The Lord Jesus for help knowing his salvation and love for you.
It sound like you are descibing Christianity.
Can you question god? Does the story give your life meaning and a feeling of belonging?
Or do you realize this but is this in your satire section?
I been in churches that became cults and I had to leave.
Reason #1... 💩🧠
Political party rallies, Q-ANON, politics used by fascists and demigods, religions targeting single people, the elderly etc
Something is very wrong with this RUclipsr because she fails to understand that all religions and denominations are cult's.
There's nothing wrong with her.
Selling religion is an easy grift
@@zhengfuukusheng9238 😀
✝️👑
8:39 - reminds me of a certain presidential candidate, who's initials are DJT.
Better yet, Obama
I agree!
OK, but remember that Christianity is very cultic. In other words: there are cults, and there are cults.