And you will find it, trust me you will. Let me put it this way Cheryl if Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God then his death upon the cross was insufficient for your life. Because only God can pay for your sins you can’t do it yourself. So Jehovah God himself was able to take on a human body that didn’t coexist with his divine nature die for the sins of the world in human flesh and then rise physically from the dead he was seen by 500 people Jesus was after his resurrection. The doctrine of the trinity is hard to grasp. But it is taught in Scripture. Here’s for you if you don’t believe what scripture says here’s the original quai Greek for Hebrews chapter 1 verse eight this goes to show that they switched it. Hebrews 1:8 ► Hebrews 1 - Click for Chapter 8 4314 [e] 8 Pros 8 Πρὸς 8 Unto 8 Prep 1161 [e] de δὲ however Conj 3588 [e] ton τὸν the Art-AMS 5207 [e] Huion Υἱόν : Son N-AMS 3588 [e] Ho Ὁ The Art-NMS 2362 [e] thronos θρόνος throne N-NMS 4771 [e] sou σου , of You PPro-G2S 3588 [e] ho ὁ O Art-VMS 2316 [e] Theos Θεὸς , God N-NMS 1519 [e] eis εἰς [is] to Prep 3588 [e] ton τὸν the Art-AMS 165 [e] aiōna αἰῶνα age N-AMS 3588 [e] tou τοῦ of the Art-GMS 165 [e] aiōnos αἰῶνος , age N-GMS 2532 [e] kai καὶ and Conj 3588 [e] hē ἡ the Art-NFS 4464 [e] rhabdos ῥάβδος scepter N-NFS 3588 [e] tēs τῆς of Art-GFS 2118 [e] euthytētos εὐθύτητος righteousness [is] N-GFS 4464 [e] rhabdos ῥάβδος [the] scepter N-NFS
If you read Sheryl’s comment and now you’re reading this, please pray for her. Sheryl, I praise God you were set free from deception. May He continue to guide you in truth!
Here is a better one Sheryl 8 ◄ Hebrews 1:8 8 8 Pros 8 Πρὸς 8 Unto 8 Prep de δὲ however Conj ton τὸν the Huion Υἱόν : Son Ho Ὁ The thronos θρόνος throne sou σου , of You ho ὁ O Theos Θεὸς , God eis εἰς [is] to ton τὸν the aiōna αἰῶνα age tou τοῦ of the aiōnos αἰῶνος , age kai καὶ and Conj hē ἡ the rhabdos ῥάβδος scepter tēs τῆς of euthytētos εὐθύτητος righteousness [is] rhabdos ῥάβδος [the] scepter tēs τῆς of the basileias βασιλείας kingdom sou σου* . of You
Great discussion, I took notes! My mom is a JW and these are great points using their own Bible. Oh Jesus, please let her have eyes to see! Thank you for this content.
I’m a Jehovah’s Witness and they obviously didn’t use the references that we use right there in the online Bible to show the accuracy of those verses. We don’t use our own interpretation nor change any scriptures in our Bible. Jesus said his true followers would be hated, and this video is proof. Apologize to your mom-She’s still your mom even if you don’t agree. 😊
@@sunnyjohnson992 There is not a single Greek manuscript of the New Testament (more than 6000) that has YHWH in it. JWs added it over 200 times in the NWT. They very much change the Bible. Look at Hebrews 1:8-9 in a Greek interlinear and try to explain how the NWT comes up with their translation.
loved this so much as an Ex-JW. My sister also is now an exjw christian and we're working on waking our mom up. This is going to help so much. Thank you both!
@Richard Stanley praying for your mom to wake up! Mine has woken up since this comment and no longer a JW after being one her whole life, and she's 73.
@@brittanyaloisio3409 that was such an encouragement to wake up to! It feels impossible at times but I know through God all things are possible. God bless you and have a wonderful Mother’s Day!!
@@richardstanley7661 your best weapon against a stronghold like this is to first get things out of your own life and be as close to God as you can be, then fast for your family members and be constantly lifting them up before the Lord because only God himself can break a stronghold like this but that’s not to say that some people don’t change their minds just by being told the truth so prayer and simply telling them can be beneficial
A masterclass for any preacher or missionary...Greetings from Greece... we have a huge problem with JW and nobody feels the need to reach them the way you do!!! Bravo!!!
I was inspired by this video yesterday and made my own short version with two points - using their Scriptures - ruclips.net/video/En2Hh1sh3fs/видео.html Witnessing to JW - Jesus Predicted His Own Bodily Resurrection - (this is important because they don't believe in the Bodily Resurrection).
What is missing is Agape Love. Nobody wants to love their neighbor (friend or foe) as themselves. "Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 22:37-40 NKJV
My family was so damaged by the JW's. Thank you so much for this wonderful comprehensive teaching and comparison. This will be so incredibly helpful, as I will pass it along. Thank you so much and God richly bless you both!
I’m an ex too but I never really believed what they taught did you know they had bought a mansion in San Diego a long time ago because they thought the12 apostles were going to come back in the last days I can’t remember when they sold it I found that out from an ex jw who’s dad used to be an elder because she was going through a box of her grandmothers or something like that after she died and there was a ton of crap like that that most jw’s don’t know about bet if they knew about things like that they would question w they have been taught js
I just witnessed to a JW cashier at Walmart, so this video should be most helpful. The Holy Spirit opened up the window to witness by me asking how she was doing and she responded that she had the worst customer ever. I told her I was sorry, and explained that it's inexcusable but due to sin being in the world due to disobedience in the garden, so people have a sinful nature. That's why Jesus came into the world. I asked her if she knew the Lord Jesus and she said yes. I asked her a follow up question with "When did you come to faith in Christ Jesus?" She said she was raised JW. I just loved her, because she didn't have the Holy Spirit to even know that the crystal she was wearing around her neck was occult. Even when I warned her that she shouldn't be wearing it because of the evil spirits she's opening herself up to, she said, "Yeah, I know." Clearly she doesn't, because she's not born again.. Anyway, my heart just went out to her, because though she didn't consider herself a perfect person, she wouldn't say she wasn't good. By definition "good" is moral excellence, and no one can achieve it through all their good works. She had some hesitation and uncertainty of whether she'll go to heaven or not based on their corrupt NWT. I asked her, "Don't you want to know for sure where you are going after you die ?" (Because I know they don't believe in hell, but annihilation)I didn't want to take up too much of her time as she was going to bag up another customer behind me, but I prayed for her and I hope to see her again.
I'm glad God led me to this video. I recently rec'd a letter from a JW. I guess a new way to reach their target audience. They sent me a letter, so I will send them one back. I wanted to know how to put that stone in their shoe. This is excellent. Just a word of encouragement. Many decades ago, lost in drugs, immorality and the occult, I was adamant that I would NEVER become one of them, a CRAZY Christian. :) Not too many months after that, I surrendered my life to Christ. Never say never in regards to God. He can reach those tough nuts to crack and I was a tough nut.
This was so amazing! I have been following you for a while and this is my first comment. Anyway, I was raised and baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. I left at 18 and stopped practicing, Oct 2020 God drew me near using what I was most interested in. As I would read the Bible I ask God to help me understand the Trinity. To help me believe that the Holy Spirit is God. The Scripture of the Great Commission is what God used for me to understand. Matthew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, " the word NAME (singular) that is when I got it. That verse helped me understand 1 Godhead 3 Person. God is good! BTW, I took notes and will go over them again. My parents are still in the organization and my dad is an Elder. I just don't know how I can bring up the conversation. They do know I am a born again Christian and baptized as one too. Tfs,
@@honorthechrist3059 Yes, we do. After getting baptized they did shun me for a few months. I cried out to the Lord in prayer to restore my relationship with my parents. Matthew 10: 32-39 brought comfort to me cause I knew this would happen. But God.....in His unfailing love and sovereignty, He restored our relationship.
It’s funny how the organization handles this situation dependent. If they can get away with making parents shun they will. If they can’t they won’t push it. I was never baptized jw so luckily I haven’t had to deal with it. My mother lives with me and my wife and we are both born again Christians.
Just love on your family unconditionally and continue praying. Let them see your love for Christ and the peace and freedom you have in Him. They will be drawn to that over time.
That is great to hear sister. The Bible says, that the Holy Spirit will give you the words to speak at the right time. Don't worry, just keep studying the word of God . God is hearing your prayers.
How did it go? They are very confident and have an answer for everything. Don't be discouraged if it doesn't seem to go well. Just plant the seed and the spirit will Make it grow.
A question to ask them is "'Why did you leave the divided church system?" Ever wondered what 'NEW' thing anyone can teach JWs? They already would know these. They once believed these.
“Trained to believe that you are the devil” This completely crossed my mind as I was brought up a JW. It’s so hard to think differently but I am trying to ensure I follow God and not men
Psalms 46:7 says that the LORD of Hosts is God. Isaiah 47:4 says that the LORD of Hosts is the Holy One. John 6:69 says that the Holy One is Jesus. Therefore Jesus is God.
Vada has such a great point about the sovereignty of God even when people try to falsify His love letters to mankind. "We can not out smart God" I love this quote.
I met a JW at a park recently and tried to share the gospel with her. It quickly became clear that our main point of disagreement was on whether Jesus is God. It was very frustrating bringing up verses (like John 1:1) and having her read her translation to nullify them. So now I am watching videos to help me prepare. I think I will even type/ copy paste the verses discussed here and print on packets for her and her friend when they come over to discuss with me more. Sometimes I feel like flipping around so much in the Bible is distracting or I will forget one of the points. But of course if they want to see it in their own Bible we can go to the online version. Thank you for helping me feel prepared instead of nervous and frustrated!
I've been in ministry to Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons since 1995, full-time since '99. Even still, there is always something new to learn. I'm familiar with many of the arguments presented here, but I've added a number of verses to my tool box. Thanks to Melissa and Vada for going through these verse for us! This was informative and has given me some homework. Now I've got more verse to mark up in my bible.
I was witnessing to a JW off and on for the better part of 2 years. I offered my friendship to them because I believed that was what the Lord wanted. This person must have been an elder or something because he knew the scriptures extremely well. I ended that relationship when he basically told me that I was dying and I needed to make more time for him so that he could speak life to me. It was then that I knew he was never in this to listen to a different perspective, but rather because I was lost and only he had the truth. It was a truly sad experience for me. I'm sure some seeds were planted, I did call him out on a LOT of issues, but like my old pastor used to say "A person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still." Only Jesus can convert the heart.
Aw so sweet of you and so true that only Jesus can convert the heart. Maybe fast and pray for this man and if He ever comes again God will honor your warfare for his soul and bring the revelation needed to his heart. 🙏
How can anyone plant any seeds in JWs. Many of JWs were once part of the divided church system. Why did they leave? John 8:21,32. The TRUTH. What new thing can anyone tell them that they wouldn't already know about? Just wondering.
@@jimjuri6490 JW's are very difficult to reach because they are spiritually blind and yet they think they see and you do not. Counterfeit Christianity is very easy to spot in one of two areas: 1. Denying the deity of Jesus Christ (JW's, Mormons, Hindi, Buddhists, Muslim) 2. A works-based gospel. Once you've denied who Jesus is, then everything else is downhill from there. If you can't see who he is, you can't see anything. Ironically
❤ Thank you you do not know how much I appreciate l should say thank God thank Jehovah God for this study , I have been out of Jehovah’s Witnesses since the early 80s that 1980s and the Trinity is the one thing that bothered me I just could not wrap my head around it I have prayed to find the answer in the thing that was holding me back was the New World translation believing that it was correct how they said it was the real Bible as they put it just in every day English not like king James I’m so happy but don’t know how to communicate this with my family since I’m disfellowshipped and they don’t talk to me my daughter gets mail at my address and will not except it but thank you and your friend for such important information I will be sharing it to the family that is not maybe they can reach . PS it’s so important to study and research I’m just learning that at 71
Thank you Melissa for bringing forth all of the information that you can find for Christian’s to defend themselves. And I could listen to your voice read scripture all night. You are an amazing and wonderful Christian woman 🙌🏼❤️🙌🏼
Love this!!! Can't wait to use this to witness (I'd love to be an apologist, trying to study daily so God can use me in this way). Thank you and bless you! ❤ Yes please to part 2. 🙏
I'm currently "studying" online with JW I met on vacation in Europe. Here's the text and questions I sent to them this week. They were really eager initially but haven't responded to my questions the last 2 times: Hey I hope your week is going well and that you might have some time this week to think about this scripture together with me (and practice your English lol). I couldn't sleep because I was thinking about how beautiful the book of Acts describes the name of Jesus and so I decided to write to you and perhaps you will think it is beautiful too. *Acts -- the Name of Jesus* (Everything is from the same book, about the same topic. I have a list of verses, a summary, and 3 questions for you.) Acts 2:21 - Whoever calls on the name of the Lord (Jehovah) shall be saved. Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" ... to save yourself (Acts 2:40) ... so they did (Acts 2:41). Acts 3:6 - In the name of Jesus Christ, rise and walk. Acts 3:16 - His name - by faith in his name - has made this man strong. Acts 4:7 - By what power or name did you do this? Acts 4:10 - By the name of Jesus Christ. Acts 4:12 - There is salvation in no one else, no other name under heaven by which to be saved, besides the name of Jesus. Acts 4:17 - Let us warn Christians not to speak in the name of Jesus. Acts 4:18 - Prohibited them from speaking in the name of Jesus. Acts 4:30 - Signs and wonders performed through the name of Jesus. Acts 5:28 - Jerusalem was filled with teachings in the name of Jesus. Acts 5:40 - Apostles beaten for speaking in the name of Jesus. Acts 5:41 - Rejoiced for suffering for the name of Jesus. Acts 7:59 - Stephen called on the name of Lord Jesus. Acts 8:12 - Preached the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus. Acts 9:14 - Saul binded all who call on the name of Jesus. Acts 9:15-16 - Saul would carry the name of Jesus and suffer for the name of Jesus. 9:21 - Christians in Jerusalem were calling on the name of Jesus. Summary: Peter started his sermon by quoting Joel's prophecy about calling on the name of Jehovah to be saved and that Jehovah would pour out his spirit. Then he said this prophecy was fulfilled _by Jesus_ pouring out the spirit he received from the Father. Then Peter repeatedly said the name of Jesus is the name that saves, and that the name of Jesus is the _only_ name that saves. The Apostles then did everything _in the name of Jesus_, by the power of Jesus, _suffered_ for the name of Jesus, _called_ on the name of Jesus, carried the name of Jesus to the gentiles. Etc. Question1: Why do you think the name of Jesus is the focus of their ministry and not Jehovah? And do you think JW today do the same as the Apostles did, suffer for the name of Jesus, _call_ on the name of Jesus? (Btw this is a side topic but I noticed in Acts 9:10-17 Jesus is the one who was aware of Saul's prayer and answered his prayer by sending Ananias.) Question 2: JW have told me "Jesus came to restore the name of Jehovah" but Acts 8:12 says the good news is _about the name of Jesus._ I'm curious if you also share the good news _about the name of Jesus_ and what _is_ this good news about Jesus' name? Question 3: I kinda asked a similar question before but you haven't answered yet. Peter said call on the name of Jehovah to be saved, yet he said the name of Jesus is the _only_ name given to be saved, and that Christians are those that call on the name of Jesus (including Stephen). How do you understand this? Thank you for your consideration of this text. I love how the name Jesus is presented in this book. So much so that's it's keeping me up thinking about how all these texts connect so beautifully. I hope you can have some time to tell me your side.
Jehovah is God Almighty, Sovereign Lord of the universe.(you already know that) He(Jehovah) has made Jesus Christ, his son, king of his Kingdom. The Bible often refers to both names interchangeably. The distinction between the two biblically, is unmistakable. Throughout the gospels, Jesus' reliance on his father is obvious. At 1st Cor.15:20-28, Paul explains that Jesus' reign is temporary. The "bottom line" is if the owner of a company delegates/entrusts authority to his son, it doesn't mean that he(the father) relinquishes ownership to him. Hope this helps.
@@rogerhewitt9061 that is very nice 👍. We have no problem with using the divine name in the Bible. The problem is that JW *_insert_* the divine name in the NT 237 times where it doesn't belong because the original authors did not use the divine name in the Greek manuscripts. They also purposely don't insert the divine name in certain verses that are citations of the OT, Greek Septuagint LXX, *where 'Lord' is the divine name* in the original. For example, in Isaiah 45:23-25 'Lord' means 'YHWH' but JW keep the word 'Lord' in the citation because it is about Jesus in Phil 2:10-11.
excellent video, even though they have corrupted the word of God with their translation, there is still enough in there to show them that Jesus Christ is our great God and Savior
Awesome video. I love all your content, but this is one of the best vids on the channel. Jw's showed up at my house this weekend, and I invited the back to further discuss the gospel. Can't wait to bring these points up! God bless you both Melissa & Vada! Keep on running the race
John 2:21 "The Temple He spoke of was His Body" (about the resurrection) - this is a good Scripture to share with them because they say The Body of Jesus did not rise. And in their "new world translation" they forgot to change the word - and it also says "BODY" - so you can prove to them in their version that Jesus predicted HIS BODY would rise. God is good! - 4983 sṓma - the physical body.
I just had JWs show up to my apartment, and I probably only answered them because I thought it may have been maintenance since I put in a request this morning. Their pamphlet had Isaiah 9:6 on it (with only the first half of the verse on it), and got to show them in the New World Translation that one of the names for Jesus is "Mighty God". I am so glad that this video helped me be able to point that out to them. It may be after the video, but I knew that God was working through the conversation.
Thank you, this was very well presented with love. As you spoke about the movie Alien, and the force shield had to be removed to reach the ship, I thought about how even the apostle Paul had to have the scales removed from his eyes before he could see the truth that was about to be presented to him. I think many of us had to have the scales of preconceived ideas removed, before we could see truth.
Thank you so much for this continent this is really awesome and will help me in my Ministry with my husband we love talking to Jehovah's Witnesses we got to go into the assembly the other day with the King James Bible it was pretty cool and no one threw us out so I was super happy about that and felt God helping us get through it
This is probably one of the best apologetic videos out there to date . Had the unction to stop at 2 separate carts this past Sunday , sure wish I watched this video before . This definitely reignited my love and passion for the image bearers
I love the content guys. I have a couple aunts who are JW’s trying to get enough information to have a productive conversation with them. One note, in the beginning of the video the guy said someone told him that gentiles doesn’t mean gentiles… the word gentiles is a Latin word transliterated into English and it means “nations”… it doesn’t mean specifically people who are non-Jewish as I grew up learning. It’s used in Genesis 10 before “Jews” ever existed… secondly a lot of folks forget that “the Jews” are a very small part of Israel. When we get into the NT the Northern kingdom (the majority of Israel, is scattered amongst the nations…
Bless you both and your loved ones. May Holy Spirit continually provide the wisdom showed in this collaboration with one another as Holy Spirit led one another for being in unity of His truth being revealed. May this go far and wide for all whom need a spark to light a fire in their heart for knowing Jesus our God is the same, three in one, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, yet being One God. Glory be to Jesus; the Alpha and Omega; King of kings; the Great I AM, forevermore.
Oh Melissa, this was so good and so informative! I love the interviews you have! I always learn something! I'm actually very curious, as many interviews as you've done, with ex-mormons, former atheists, etc... Do you personally know of any ex-JWs now Christian who would be willing to do an interview with you? Or is it harder to find them because of how tough it is to get the locks off and the fear they may experience by speaking out? I ask because I have such a hard time finding ex-JWs on RUclips who came to Christ. I have found MANY who speak out and are just floating around and even some that woke up only to end up atheists or new-agers...but next to NONE who have come to know Jesus! If you know of anyone, I would love to hear their testimony!
Melissa please pin this comment 25:35 Starts 26:04 The Heavens are the work of your hands 31:18 Hebrews 1:8 was changed 34:45 Jesus is the lamp 40:57 Jesus is also the temple 44:43 Created all [ other ] things 56:50 Firstborn, not first created 59:42 The Holy Spirit speaks 1:07:13 The Holy Spirit fills 1:13:13 The Alpha and the Omega 1:18:18 Jesus is the Judge
Where exactly is Jesus the Temple may we ask? Too, if a Firstborn of God is not brought into existence, why is he called the Firstborn of all creation (Col 1:15)? BTW Jesus is APPOINTED Judge by God. John 5:22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son, The Government APPOINTS the Judges. The Judges cannot appoint themselves.
@@jimjuri6490 I pray that the true God removes the scales from your eyes. What I noticed about JWs is that your god is not Jehovah, your god is the organisation itself, so when anything, even from the Bible goes against what the organisation teaches you cant see it, because you're taught that your god does no wrong. Test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21), if its the truth it will stand, if its a lie it will fall. Be genuine in your search, the Almighty will help you. Start with the most clear verses, once you are sincere with the ones that are obvious, the Holy Spirit will reveal the mysteries. God bless you
Ty very much for this video, so informative. My brother, my Mom and I studied on this video and we are so amazed and have absorbed so much more knowledge about Jehova witnesses and their different beliefs. Debunked definitely!
I know I'm late here but this man is very knowledgable. I have learned so much from this video. I live in an area with more Mormons than JWs but if i ever get a chance to hang out with one I can come back to this video and show them what their book says. Thank you so much Melissa for putting out this video!
@@jamesbovington8218 Hi James, can I ask why is that? Are you after the truth? It’s imperative because Jesus is the One in which we are saved by. We trust in Him and His sacrifice for salvation. Jesus is also the One we face at the end to give an account for our lives, Jesus is the One who saves and judges us! His name even means: God saves.
@@jamesbovington8218 Check out the channel and books of Greg Stafford. You will get an objective view about Jehovah's Witnesses and their theology. Jesus is not Almighty God. The Father is.
I don’t know the NWT, and I don’t know their explanation for the many verses where the Bible speaks of His deity, but this I know… When, in John 8, Jesus says, “before Abraham was, I AM,” the Jews picked up stones to stone Him (the penalty for blasphemy) because they knew perfectly well what He was saying about Himself.
Oh the timing!!! Out on a run/walk on our trail near my house this morning and there were JW that brought out a bench and were sitting under a tree with a big display of brochures and Bible study info to talk with bikers and walkers. I was thinking as I passed them of what I would say to them, praying they would see His truth was the first thing that came to mind. They didn't reach out as I had earbuds in, so they just smiled and said good morning.
I went thrifting and found a JW bible. I'm not sure how they feel about writing in their bibles but I am taking notes in order as you described here. So good, I had to just listen to it the first time. Hoping this new group of JW people that seemed to have found me can benefit from this teaching.
I love this video. I grew up a JW and was disfellowshipped at 15 years old. I found my way back to God eventually, but for a while I fell victim to the woke nonsense going on in the world, because I had no morality anymore when I left, and wasn't sure a God existed. Everything you said was spot on.
Try to look at bible it is book that comforts us and keep studying the bible it gives u hoe and u can have a realathion with God bible big book and takes king time to under stand it so pray first for Gods sprit to help u all the best
Great information, can't wait until part 2, very very helpful and informative. Thank Both of You! Great Job! Feel like I've been to Bible Study! Full Buffet Style!
Amazing, brazen, (by the grace of God!) Out of all of the ex jw’s videos I have never heard anyone of them get past the personal feelings so I am soooo❤ glad that you guys will open eyes and minds past the pain, hurt, loneliness of leaving and explain the contradictions, lies, unreasonable thinking, stubbornness, and the gall of changing the Bible, literally changing the very teachings. I am 65 and in my sixities I have just gotten to the point of talking about my feelings and expressing the wrong of the gray Bible and read comments, watch the videos (pro/con) without guilt or fear. I have chills!
What prevents Holy Spirit from being present and active is pride. Legalism is also a serious problem in many religions. There's a desperate desire to go back to the old law, because it worked so well. Jesus Christ came and fulfilled the Mosaic law and now we are to be more spiritual. Without humility, it's impossible to grow a spiritual heart. Some JW placed their faith in the law and not in the love Jesus Christ taught us to develop.
God bless you, people. jW are coming to my door all the time. And i will be more than willing to share the gospel with this revelation that you both brought up. This is gold.
On Christmas day a few years ago I stopped to see if a couple I saw in the park were in need. It's not normal to see people on Christmas day from afar with a sign. I quickly realized they were JW's. I knew they didn't believe Jesus is God. So here's how the story end's. It was cold I suggested we debate over email. His final statement was that when the Bible says LORD it was translated to mean YHWH (Jehovah). I tried several John 1 arguments and he turned it around with JW circular references. Finally I went back and remembered his LORD statement. I presented Philippians 2:5-11. Jesus is LORD! Every knee shall bow and tongue confess. The email debate ended and I presumed victory. End of story? Not yet. Almost a year later I got a knock on the door Thanksgiving weekend and it's Gustave the JW. I invite him in and asked how have you been but why are you here we never exchanged personal contact info. He said he was looking for a house down the street and came to my house by mistake. I said it's no accident. I shared my love for him and witnessed to him in front of my family. Not sure what happened after that. The seed was planted and so to say I implanted the truth bomb into the mother ship. Thanks for the interview and conversation. Thanks for letting me share. We all need to be unafraid to share the gift that has been given to us. Whom shall I fear and whom shall I obey God or man? Listen to who your talking to when we share before you start speaking another language. It's hard to listen to family and strangers talk about how far they are from God. We are the indwelling of The Holy Spirit of God who is Jesus. Sometimes Jesus just wants us to let him speak while we surrender our arguments and let him love them as only he can do in his way and in his timing.
Something that helped me with this revelation is the original word used for "Word". "In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. Then then Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (paraphrased by me lol). The term used originally for "Word" is "Logos", which is where we get the term "logic" from. Jesus is the manifestation of logic and life itself, the truth, the way, etc. manifested into a human being as God Himself, logic and truth turned into Man. May take a min to get it but once you see it it makes a lot more sense in my opinion! Hope this helps someone. 🙂
Has anyone created a chart, A->B, and/or consolidated list of NWT passages to bring up to JWs? It’s just very hard to remember everything, though I know I should attempt to memorize some.
Dear Melissa: Thank you so much for doing this. This "Bible study" has been so wonderful. I Christian and have (for some time now) a co-worker (who I call friend) who is a devout Jehovah's Witness. God has placed her upon my heart. She has witnessed to me a couple times and each time I have challenged her with what is said in the JW bible and the NKJ bible. The last time was about blood transfusions. At the end of that discussion she was actually getting angry with me. I want so much to be the "pebble" in her shoe but, afraid if I push to hard she wont talk to me. I have watched your video's, Mike Winger's and Allen Parr's channels regarding JW. I think maybe Vada Hedgemanis going to be my next resource. If you have any advise please feel free (or anyone) to share. God bless you and yours.
I think it's dangerous to read other religious works only if you are not thoroughly grounded in scripture and the truth. I do think we need to know what scripture actually says so we know the truth and can give proper answers in a loving way.
Also - Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: - (in their new world translation) they kept the word that Jesus said He was "THE FIRST AND THE LAST" - compare this to Isaiah 44:6 where "Jehovah" said He was The First and The Last - see video / RUclips - Jesus is Lord - Evidence in the First Bible Code - Genesis 1:1
@@JazFP_Jona Revelation chapter 1 verses 17 and 18 = 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
@@JazFP_Jona in the new world translation - (which I do not accept - but for witnessing purposes) Jesus also says...Rev 1:17- “Do not be afraid. I am the First+ and the Last,+ 18 and the living one,+ and I became dead,+ but look! I am living forever and ever,+ and I have the keys of death and of the Grave.*+
@@moseslivingstone1258 but Jesus himself said that he has always existed and so did John the Baptist. I’m not saying that John the Baptist was eternal I’m saying that John the Baptist said that Jesus existed before him.
I'm very glad i listened to this. My wife is getting involved in New Age Christianity. Christ consciousness and all that, but a unique aspect of it is that she believes YHWH in the OT is not the same entity as the Father and Jesus in the NT. YHWH is some lesser Gnostic entity. Yet all these texts show that Jesus is YHWH.
Having been raised by New Age teachers the term "Christ consciousness" is very familiar to me. I'm not sure if it will help but I'm going to show you a question that I ask JWs that they cannot give an honest answer to: In the following passage, who is being sent, and who is sending him? "For *this is what the Lord Almighty (YHWH) says:* “After the Glorious One has *sent ME* against the nations that have plundered you-for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye- I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. *Then you will know that the Lord Almighty (YHWH) has sent me."* (Zechariah 2:7-9) This question even works with the next two verses. Who is being sent, and who is sending him? "For *I am coming,* and I will live among you,” *declares the LORD (YHWH).* “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that *the Lord Almighty has sent me to you."* (Zechariah 2:10-11)
This is what happens when you take scriptures out of context. Why not start reading the Book of Hebrews from the beginning to gain a better understanding. Or even better, first pray for God to help you understand the meaning of his word. So, let's read from the begginning of the chapter. Which translation do you normally use? KJV? Verse 2: "[God] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" (ASV reads: "hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds;" - I always like to have a few Bible translations open to compare them). So, God has spoken at the end of those days in (or by or through) his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom also HE made the worlds (heaven and earth). So who is HE? Jehovah God. Jehovah created the worlds by/through Jesus. But you skipped this part and you started from verse 8, one of the quotes from the Old Testament that were written about someone else but also can apply to Jesus. Oddly enough, and conveniently, you then ommit verse 9. Why? Let's read if from KJV: "Thou [Jesus] hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." So Jesus' God anointed Jesus with the oil of gladness above his fellows. Say what? Jesus had God? Yes, yes he did. Just as we read also in John 20:17 of KJV: "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God." So in verse 8 Jehovah God calls Jesus God and tells him that for being righteous, his throne is forever, after God exalts Jesus to the highest position. That is in agreement with 1Cor 15:27,28 KJV: "For he [Jehovah] hath put all things under his [Jesus'] feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." NWT translation is a little clearer here: "For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone". So at the end of God's plan, Jesus is to subject himself to Jehovah. How can this be right, if you say that Jesus IS Jehovah?
I fail to see how showing Jesus to be like minded to God can prove him to be God, God has given the administration to his son he is in fact a representative of God, other scriptures in the bible refer to Jesus being a father that doesn't mean he's Jehovah, words that are used here are controversial to say the least, and the scriptures say and they will have to know that I am Jehovah a name removed from the scriptures clearly they don't want to talk about replacing it with God or lord when clearly it says the tetragrammerton yhwh or Jehovah,.
A friend of the family passed away; she was a Jehovah's Witness. My wife and I went to the service. A man started it off by saying that they would be reading passages out of the King James Version. I turned to my wife and smiled and told her that they think all versions of the Bible except theirs (New World Translation) are corrupt. Bait and switch. In another incident about 30 yrs. ago, a friend of mine (a JW) worked next to our store. He found out he couldn't get to me and he brought in a heavy hitter one day after work. After a short time, the guy got so frustrated with me he started poking me in the chest saying, "You know I'm right, you know I'm right." I told him that I knew he was wrong. Boom, he was out the door. I didn't get mad or holler or anything like that. I just let him know what I believed w/verses and stuck with it. My friend had given me a copy of the NWT and the 1st thing I wrote in it was, "The thought behind this book is a lie." I was thinking of another incident. A several JW’s would come by the drugstore leave their literature on a rack that we had for all kinds of information. and sometimes get their medicine. After they would leave, I would take their literature off the rack. I would keep it to read just to know where they’re coming from. One day, an elderly lady came in to leave their magazines. I gave her 2 gospel tracts and she literally came unglued. She took them but she was about as nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rockers. She high-tailed it out of there and I never saw them in the store again. I wasn’t expecting that kind of reaction. Poor lady.
Great video! If you look at Genesis 3:3-4 and you'll see how Satan added the word "not" to God's word to alter it's meaning and deceive Eve. It's one of Satan's most effective means of deception and he's still using it today through his earthly organization. Proverbs 30:6 "Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar."
One thing they will not tell you is that the Tetragrammaton is never used in the Greek Scriptures but they have replaced Lord and God in almost all the places in the New Testament with Jehovah. I was raised in it and left as I went into College because I didn't get baptized as a youth. Then only to think I needed spirituality in my life and went back in my thirties and got baptized married an elder that I later recognized as actually demonized and ended up cheating with another sister. The teachings just started grating on my soul and I started just staying away from the meetings and reading the Bible and then incorporating the other 9 bibles I have and I ended up reprogramming myself. LOL This was a really Good video and helpful to perhaps have a discussion with my immediate family❣ Thank YOU
The apostlrs worshipped Jesus after He rose again and they were not rebuked by him. However Jehovah and Jesus are not the same.Jesus calls Himself the Son of Man...pls refer to the prophecy in Daniel, Ancient of Days is Jehovah, Jesus is the Son of Man.Also we are meant to know God Who sent Jesus through knowing Jesus...Jesus is the image of His Father...He came so we can know Who God is...but He stresses He is the Son of Man.We have to correct this guys...
I’m a JW and I’ve done the research needed to be secure in my beliefs. I have found that the NWT is indeed more accurate than the KJV. And I have learned why that is by researching the Koine Greek and its meaning and its grammatical arrangement. So for me I’m very happy with my religious choice of beliefs. But I do wish you nothing but the best. If anyone has a honest question feel free to ask. Don’t ask if you just want to debate to feel better than me. No one is better than the other. Just remember how Jehovah feels about us as equals.
Didn’t Jesus specifically claim that He (Jesus) had a God? The bible clearly described Jesus fearfully obeyed and worshipped His God. It’s right in your bible.
Jesus is referring to the Father. Jesus refers to the Father as "God." Then the apostle Thomas refers to Jesus as "my Lord and my God." There are so many verses in the Bible that refer to Jesus as divine that any verse to the contrary is a contradiction.
I have a couple of JWs coming to talk this week...I've been researching and watching alot of your videos ( awesome BTW). I'm learning on how the JWs came up with their translation of scripture. But what if they ask.." who came up with your translation?" There are so many different translations into English of the Holy Bible...what is the correct answer to give them? Do you have a video on this?
It's usually relatively easy to find out who is on the translation committee of Bible's. For instance, if you search "ESV translation committee" you can get the degrees and positions held by the translation committee members so you can see what credentials they have as scholars. Jw's will claim that they don't list the names of their translation members because they want God to get the glory but it's not about detracting from God's glory. The issue is if the NWT members are qualified scholars.
It depends upon the translation. Many have groups of people, some have only one person. Mostly now if I remember correctly they use a greek lexicon made up from the relevant greek texts. And translate from there. For the New Testament.
My suggestion is to use their bible. Not just the 2013 addition of the NWT but their kingdom interlinear too. There are several scriptures you can use to show the differences between the Bible’s also John 1:1 Colossians 1:15,16 John 8:58 From there, a couple of questions you can ask them: 1) who gave them the authority to change the Bible? God or man? 2) why are there differences between the Bible’s made/produced by the JW’s? 3) does the new bible(NWT 2013) contradict the hold one (NWT1984/kingdom interlinear? Don’t let them control the conversation. Hope this helps
@@sgame82 the fathers name is never mentioned in the New Testament according to the Greek(the original language) The witnesses have 3 bibles they’ve made and all of them say something different. How can that be? Did the spirit get it wrong or did man?
You guys are amazing. Actually, i have a current bible study with the Jehovah's witnesses. This type of content will help me a lot. God bless you both!
Could you also go to Jeremiah 32 verse 18 Deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 17 Isaiah chapter 10 verse 21, and then also read Revelation 2213 where it talks about Jesus being the Almighty God in the New World translation and also could you go to as well second Corinthians chapter 3 verse 12 and 18 in the New World translation for us. I’ll follow right along.
This is a wonderful video. It is important to use their language and know their definitions for words. I am having to watch for a second time. And probably a third in the future. Many thanks.
Any tips for when they shut down and accuse you of apostasy, even if you show them from their own literature?! For context, I’m a born in exjw and my mom and dad are still in and in DEEP.
Do not give up, Be kind and pray that God opens doors to them to seek truth. Ask them why org. In New York forbids them to read, listen, or study the N K J, or NASB or even New Living Bible, NIV, and others that have not been changed . NWT is changed to fit JW organization. Jesus loves them and wants to Save them to enter into God's Kingdom when they die. To die is gain if you trust in Jesus. This is our temporary dwelling place/ home. God's Heaven is Eternal.
@@Vicky-bn6in only part you got wrong was the other Bible translations that they can’t read or study. They literally have those translations in their app
I find this to be fruitless. Of all the scriptures in the Bible that they have an 'explanation' for, this one will take you down one of the longest rabbit trails. They will combat with you for hours prodding away at Koine greek using words that most of us (and likely them as well) don't understand or have even heard. They are so indoctrinated to think that their explanation is correct and they'll hop through all sorts of hoops to espouse it, it just doesn't seem worth it to me. I feel like the book of Hebrews is a better place to start. Much love to you
Praise the Lord and thank you for sharing your story. I love you ❤ I’m a subscriber on Snapchat and I am now a new subscriber on RUclips. You’re a strong woman and God definitely has a plan for your life.
A loaded question is worth a thousand words. Ask a JW for an example of Jehovah's almighty power in action. The greatest example they can give is the creation of the Universe. But, John 1:3 says, "All things were made by him and without him was nothing made." So, Jesus is almighty according to the JW who gave you this example.
Welp your very first point you used was wrong. Read the whole chapter and don't cherry pick scriptures. Verse 9 clearly states that Jesus had a God and that Jesus was exultated more than his companions. Who was his companions? Verse 13 says to sit at my right hand. Was the Father telling himself to sit at his right hand? I'm going to stop the video here because it was clearly cherry picked. Don't be misled.
I wanted to contact you to download how to witness to a JW this video was spot-on I'm so excited I can't get enough of you 2 I would love to be an apologist but I'm 66 years old and feel the urgency of winning Souls over through our Lord God and savior
I am a very happy person since I became a Jehovah Witness, it changed my life in the most positive of ways, leagues better than the Catholic Church ever did. You paint them in a very bad way, we cannot be judged the way you have.
It's very clear that Jesus and his father are very close because Jesus is the administrator also what ever the father dose he does also,without stirring contention if the name Jehovah has been removed from the bible in the Hebrew scripture and replaced with God and lord, why? Regardless of the dispute of the Christian Greek scripture, but as a lot of terminology in the bible language can be interchangeable with both the father and the son, proves that the father is very close to the son, but Regardless of debating these subjects amongst yourself a Jehovah witness was not present to answer your understanding, from what I know each scripture mentioned can be easily manipulated to convince an audience if there is no one to defend these statements, why don't you write to the Jehovahs witnesses and ask them directly each question I have no other complaint other than I personally don't make any judgement unless both parties have the opportunity to have their say otherwise it becomes just another opinion,
Thank You, from Germany! You've given me the finishing facts to help two jws to see our Savior. I must add, researching YHWH, I found that the terms "Jehovah" & "Yahweh" don't exsist in the Torah, Sepuagint, Samaritan Pentateuch, nor the writings from Flavius Josephus. This in my perspective, strengthens Yehoshua to be the Way, the Truth, and the Life! His Name, His Good News, His Works, His Love, His Blood, His Resurrection, His Spirit! Just thought you might be interested. God Bless.
WOW. I'm learning so much just listening to this great discussion. Thank you both! I turned back to God through SDA/ seventh day adventists. I'm not SDA, but they were every instrumental in my recovery. The one real messed up damage I had from DSA is the vegan diet the push. It took me a while to realize the diet of excess fruit and grains made me food addicted and carbohydrate addicted. It's a recipe for making more diabetics. Their food pyramid is very wrong. I had to add meat and animal fats to heal. SDA influences the dietary rules in a very negative way.
I was an ex new ager. Diet influences intrigue me especially fasting. Using dietary guidance and food restriction times or dietary trends is a topic on its own I can suggest to look into. Cultural diets strongly linked to health and affects our concentration. Brain fog is real. Producing ketones is good to focus and understand What we are reading.
Well done! I recently started working for a business that is owned by a JW family. They are definitely not "the happiest people". I pray that God will give me the right opportunity to share my faith and open their eyes and hearts to the truth.
Excited about this video as an ex JW still struggling with Jesus being God. I’m currently reading the gospels to help me learn the truth
Just seek the truth above all else.
And you will find it, trust me you will. Let me put it this way Cheryl if Jesus Christ is not Jehovah God then his death upon the cross was insufficient for your life. Because only God can pay for your sins you can’t do it yourself. So Jehovah God himself was able to take on a human body that didn’t coexist with his divine nature die for the sins of the world in human flesh and then rise physically from the dead he was seen by 500 people Jesus was after his resurrection. The doctrine of the trinity is hard to grasp. But it is taught in Scripture. Here’s for you if you don’t believe what scripture says here’s the original quai Greek for Hebrews chapter 1 verse eight this goes to show that they switched it.
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Read the book "the sonship of Christ" by Ty Gibson. It helped me a lot with this topic
If you read Sheryl’s comment and now you’re reading this, please pray for her. Sheryl, I praise God you were set free from deception. May He continue to guide you in truth!
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Great discussion, I took notes! My mom is a JW and these are great points using their own Bible. Oh Jesus, please let her have eyes to see! Thank you for this content.
Same! I pray for your mother’s eyes to be opened as well as my moms!
Praying for you
Thank you!! 🙏
I’m a Jehovah’s Witness and they obviously didn’t use the references that we use right there in the online Bible to show the accuracy of those verses. We don’t use our own interpretation nor change any scriptures in our Bible. Jesus said his true followers would be hated, and this video is proof. Apologize to your mom-She’s still your mom even if you don’t agree. 😊
@@sunnyjohnson992 There is not a single Greek manuscript of the New Testament (more than 6000) that has YHWH in it. JWs added it over 200 times in the NWT. They very much change the Bible.
Look at Hebrews 1:8-9 in a Greek interlinear and try to explain how the NWT comes up with their translation.
loved this so much as an Ex-JW. My sister also is now an exjw christian and we're working on waking our mom up. This is going to help so much. Thank you both!
My sister and myself are both born again Christians and our mom is a jw. I pray you can help your mom and us ours.
@Richard Stanley praying for your mom to wake up! Mine has woken up since this comment and no longer a JW after being one her whole life, and she's 73.
@@brittanyaloisio3409 that was such an encouragement to wake up to! It feels impossible at times but I know through God all things are possible. God bless you and have a wonderful Mother’s Day!!
@@richardstanley7661 your best weapon against a stronghold like this is to first get things out of your own life and be as close to God as you can be, then fast for your family members and be constantly lifting them up before the Lord because only God himself can break a stronghold like this but that’s not to say that some people don’t change their minds just by being told the truth so prayer and simply telling them can be beneficial
Great to hear you are doing well and found truth after the lies of watchtower. Praying for your witness to your mum.
A masterclass for any preacher or missionary...Greetings from Greece... we have a huge problem with JW and nobody feels the need to reach them the way you do!!! Bravo!!!
I was inspired by this video yesterday and made my own short version with two points - using their Scriptures - ruclips.net/video/En2Hh1sh3fs/видео.html
Witnessing to JW - Jesus Predicted His Own Bodily Resurrection - (this is important because they don't believe in the Bodily Resurrection).
You feel the need brother. Make it a ministry. They need love and help. They just don’t know Jesus. ❤️
What is missing is Agape Love. Nobody wants to love their neighbor (friend or foe) as themselves.
"Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
Matthew 22:37-40 NKJV
@@melissayoung4776 that is no t true. When you make broad accusations by saying “nobody” you are not having agape.
@@melissayoung4776 if you love your enemies you are a poor judge of character
My family was so damaged by the JW's. Thank you so much for this wonderful comprehensive teaching and comparison. This will be so incredibly helpful, as I will pass it along. Thank you so much and God richly bless you both!
I’m ex JW. First out in 5 generations. I’m praying my family wakes up! 🎉
3 generation for me the 4-5 th were slaves
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Congrats!
🙏🙏 you are 1st of many
Well done 👏🙌
Why did you leave serving Jehovah and turning you back on him
I’m an ex too but I never really believed what they taught did you know they had bought a mansion in San Diego a long time ago because they thought the12 apostles were going to come back in the last days I can’t remember when they sold it I found that out from an ex jw who’s dad used to be an elder because she was going through a box of her grandmothers or something like that after she died and there was a ton of crap like that that most jw’s don’t know about bet if they knew about things like that they would question w they have been taught js
I just witnessed to a JW cashier at Walmart, so this video should be most helpful. The Holy Spirit opened up the window to witness by me asking how she was doing and she responded that she had the worst customer ever. I told her I was sorry, and explained that it's inexcusable but due to sin being in the world due to disobedience in the garden, so people have a sinful nature. That's why Jesus came into the world. I asked her if she knew the Lord Jesus and she said yes. I asked her a follow up question with "When did you come to faith in Christ Jesus?" She said she was raised JW. I just loved her, because she didn't have the Holy Spirit to even know that the crystal she was wearing around her neck was occult. Even when I warned her that she shouldn't be wearing it because of the evil spirits she's opening herself up to, she said, "Yeah, I know." Clearly she doesn't, because she's not born again.. Anyway, my heart just went out to her, because though she didn't consider herself a perfect person, she wouldn't say she wasn't good. By definition "good" is moral excellence, and no one can achieve it through all their good works. She had some hesitation and uncertainty of whether she'll go to heaven or not based on their corrupt NWT. I asked her, "Don't you want to know for sure where you are going after you die ?" (Because I know they don't believe in hell, but annihilation)I didn't want to take up too much of her time as she was going to bag up another customer behind me, but I prayed for her and I hope to see her again.
How was the crystal around her neck an occult?
@@jeffreyharrington5057 oh you will have to go down that rabbit hole for yourself. Mystical powers of crystals. Enjoy. It is fascinating
@@Deepthoughts4ever Noy fascinatimg to me, its more weird and demonic.
@Nancy Miner But, crystals are just rocks. Do rocks actually have mystical powers?🤔
@@Deepthoughts4ever only if you use them for worship.
I'm glad God led me to this video. I recently rec'd a letter from a JW. I guess a new way to reach their target audience. They sent me a letter, so I will send them one back. I wanted to know how to put that stone in their shoe. This is excellent. Just a word of encouragement. Many decades ago, lost in drugs, immorality and the occult, I was adamant that I would NEVER become one of them, a CRAZY Christian. :) Not too many months after that, I surrendered my life to Christ. Never say never in regards to God. He can reach those tough nuts to crack and I was a tough nut.
I’m so glad you collaborated with Veda. He is a hidden gem in the apologetics arena.
Right?! I hope people sub and check him out. He's really unique in his approach and a fresh voice.
This was so amazing! I have been following you for a while and this is my first comment. Anyway, I was raised and baptized as a Jehovah's Witness. I left at 18 and stopped practicing, Oct 2020 God drew me near using what I was most interested in. As I would read the Bible I ask God to help me understand the Trinity. To help me believe that the Holy Spirit is God. The Scripture of the Great Commission is what God used for me to understand. Matthew 28:19 "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, " the word NAME (singular) that is when I got it. That verse helped me understand 1 Godhead 3 Person. God is good! BTW, I took notes and will go over them again. My parents are still in the organization and my dad is an Elder. I just don't know how I can bring up the conversation. They do know I am a born again Christian and baptized as one too. Tfs,
Do you and your parents converse?
@@honorthechrist3059 Yes, we do. After getting baptized they did shun me for a few months. I cried out to the Lord in prayer to restore my relationship with my parents. Matthew 10: 32-39 brought comfort to me cause I knew this would happen. But God.....in His unfailing love and sovereignty, He restored our relationship.
It’s funny how the organization handles this situation dependent. If they can get away with making parents shun they will. If they can’t they won’t push it.
I was never baptized jw so luckily I haven’t had to deal with it. My mother lives with me and my wife and we are both born again Christians.
Just love on your family unconditionally and continue praying. Let them see your love for Christ and the peace and freedom you have in Him. They will be drawn to that over time.
That is great to hear sister. The Bible says, that the Holy Spirit will give you the words to speak at the right time. Don't worry, just keep studying the word of God . God is hearing your prayers.
Their website is so organized which is impressive, especially with looking up verses in their false translation. Thanks for posting this Melissa.
Which is the proper translation? Is it the ones that replace the fathers name for the title of God? The tetragammatron is his name not his title!
I think you can download other Bible translations on their website
Spoke with Jehovah witnesses a few days ago and invited them to come to my house to have a conversation. So excited for our convo now, I took notes!!!
How did it go? They are very confident and have an answer for everything. Don't be discouraged if it doesn't seem to go well. Just plant the seed and the spirit will Make it grow.
Yes how did it go
A question to ask them is "'Why did you leave the divided church system?"
Ever wondered what 'NEW' thing anyone can teach JWs? They already would know these. They once believed these.
@@jimjuri6490what do you mean divided church system? In case they ask.
Did you know that the Bible tells you not to have those people in your house don't you
“Trained to believe that you are the devil” This completely crossed my mind as I was brought up a JW. It’s so hard to think differently but I am trying to ensure I follow God and not men
Your on the right track. 😊
Psalms 46:7 says that the LORD of Hosts is God. Isaiah 47:4 says that the LORD of Hosts is the Holy One. John 6:69 says that the Holy One is Jesus. Therefore Jesus is God.
Vada has such a great point about the sovereignty of God even when people try to falsify His love letters to mankind. "We can not out smart God" I love this quote.
I met a JW at a park recently and tried to share the gospel with her. It quickly became clear that our main point of disagreement was on whether Jesus is God. It was very frustrating bringing up verses (like John 1:1) and having her read her translation to nullify them. So now I am watching videos to help me prepare. I think I will even type/ copy paste the verses discussed here and print on packets for her and her friend when they come over to discuss with me more. Sometimes I feel like flipping around so much in the Bible is distracting or I will forget one of the points. But of course if they want to see it in their own Bible we can go to the online version. Thank you for helping me feel prepared instead of nervous and frustrated!
Deuteronomy 4:35 NKJV
[35] To you it was shown, that you might know that the Lord Himself is God; there is none other besides Him.
I've been in ministry to Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons since 1995, full-time since '99. Even still, there is always something new to learn. I'm familiar with many of the arguments presented here, but I've added a number of verses to my tool box. Thanks to Melissa and Vada for going through these verse for us! This was informative and has given me some homework. Now I've got more verse to mark up in my bible.
Yes, do a part 2. It helped me and I'm not even a JW.
I was witnessing to a JW off and on for the better part of 2 years. I offered my friendship to them because I believed that was what the Lord wanted. This person must have been an elder or something because he knew the scriptures extremely well. I ended that relationship when he basically told me that I was dying and I needed to make more time for him so that he could speak life to me. It was then that I knew he was never in this to listen to a different perspective, but rather because I was lost and only he had the truth. It was a truly sad experience for me.
I'm sure some seeds were planted, I did call him out on a LOT of issues, but like my old pastor used to say "A person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still." Only Jesus can convert the heart.
Aw so sweet of you and so true that only Jesus can convert the heart. Maybe fast and pray for this man and if He ever comes again God will honor your warfare for his soul and bring the revelation needed to his heart. 🙏
I have the same problem with my roman Catholic brother in law
How can anyone plant any seeds in JWs. Many of JWs were once part of the divided church system. Why did they leave? John 8:21,32. The TRUTH.
What new thing can anyone tell them that they wouldn't already know about?
Just wondering.
@@jimjuri6490 JW's are very difficult to reach because they are spiritually blind and yet they think they see and you do not.
Counterfeit Christianity is very easy to spot in one of two areas:
1. Denying the deity of Jesus Christ (JW's, Mormons, Hindi, Buddhists, Muslim)
2. A works-based gospel.
Once you've denied who Jesus is, then everything else is downhill from there. If you can't see who he is, you can't see anything.
Ironically
Barr’s right there.” I do the conversing . The Holy Spirit does the Converting “.
Ready for part 2. I’ve rewatched this a few times. This is such a good session. Thank you for doing this!
❤ Thank you you do not know how much I appreciate l should say thank God thank Jehovah God for this study , I have been out of Jehovah’s Witnesses since the early 80s that 1980s and the Trinity is the one thing that bothered me I just could not wrap my head around it I have prayed to find the answer in the thing that was holding me back was the New World translation believing that it was correct how they said it was the real Bible as they put it just in every day English not like king James I’m so happy but don’t know how to communicate this with my family since I’m disfellowshipped and they don’t talk to me my daughter gets mail at my address and will not except it but thank you and your friend for such important information I will be sharing it to the family that is not maybe they can reach .
PS it’s so important to study and research I’m just learning that at 71
Thank you Melissa for bringing forth all of the information that you can find for Christian’s to defend themselves. And I could listen to your voice read scripture all night. You are an amazing and wonderful Christian woman 🙌🏼❤️🙌🏼
Love this!!! Can't wait to use this to witness (I'd love to be an apologist, trying to study daily so God can use me in this way). Thank you and bless you! ❤ Yes please to part 2. 🙏
This is so good. This even gave me more light in the true Bible. The trinity so clear.👌🏾❤️
Clear? On the cross did God ask "God" if he has forsaken himself? Did Jehovah send Jesus or is the bible wrong in this?
This was so good. Showing the JW website really helped! Thank you both!
Rewatching this and taking notes-- Praise God for revealing Himself clearly to those who seek Him!
I'm currently "studying" online with JW I met on vacation in Europe. Here's the text and questions I sent to them this week. They were really eager initially but haven't responded to my questions the last 2 times:
Hey I hope your week is going well and that you might have some time this week to think about this scripture together with me (and practice your English lol). I couldn't sleep because I was thinking about how beautiful the book of Acts describes the name of Jesus and so I decided to write to you and perhaps you will think it is beautiful too.
*Acts -- the Name of Jesus*
(Everything is from the same book, about the same topic. I have a list of verses, a summary, and 3 questions for you.)
Acts 2:21 - Whoever calls on the name of the Lord (Jehovah) shall be saved.
Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said "repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" ... to save yourself (Acts 2:40) ... so they did (Acts 2:41).
Acts 3:6 - In the name of Jesus Christ, rise and walk.
Acts 3:16 - His name - by faith in his name - has made this man strong.
Acts 4:7 - By what power or name did you do this?
Acts 4:10 - By the name of Jesus Christ.
Acts 4:12 - There is salvation in no one else, no other name under heaven by which to be saved, besides the name of Jesus.
Acts 4:17 - Let us warn Christians not to speak in the name of Jesus.
Acts 4:18 - Prohibited them from speaking in the name of Jesus.
Acts 4:30 - Signs and wonders performed through the name of Jesus.
Acts 5:28 - Jerusalem was filled with teachings in the name of Jesus.
Acts 5:40 - Apostles beaten for speaking in the name of Jesus.
Acts 5:41 - Rejoiced for suffering for the name of Jesus.
Acts 7:59 - Stephen called on the name of Lord Jesus.
Acts 8:12 - Preached the good news about the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus.
Acts 9:14 - Saul binded all who call on the name of Jesus.
Acts 9:15-16 - Saul would carry the name of Jesus and suffer for the name of Jesus.
9:21 - Christians in Jerusalem were calling on the name of Jesus.
Summary:
Peter started his sermon by quoting Joel's prophecy about calling on the name of Jehovah to be saved and that Jehovah would pour out his spirit. Then he said this prophecy was fulfilled _by Jesus_ pouring out the spirit he received from the Father. Then Peter repeatedly said the name of Jesus is the name that saves, and that the name of Jesus is the _only_ name that saves. The Apostles then did everything _in the name of Jesus_, by the power of Jesus, _suffered_ for the name of Jesus, _called_ on the name of Jesus, carried the name of Jesus to the gentiles. Etc.
Question1:
Why do you think the name of Jesus is the focus of their ministry and not Jehovah? And do you think JW today do the same as the Apostles did, suffer for the name of Jesus, _call_ on the name of Jesus?
(Btw this is a side topic but I noticed in Acts 9:10-17 Jesus is the one who was aware of Saul's prayer and answered his prayer by sending Ananias.)
Question 2:
JW have told me "Jesus came to restore the name of Jehovah" but Acts 8:12 says the good news is _about the name of Jesus._ I'm curious if you also share the good news _about the name of Jesus_ and what _is_ this good news about Jesus' name?
Question 3:
I kinda asked a similar question before but you haven't answered yet. Peter said call on the name of Jehovah to be saved, yet he said the name of Jesus is the _only_ name given to be saved, and that Christians are those that call on the name of Jesus (including Stephen). How do you understand this?
Thank you for your consideration of this text. I love how the name Jesus is presented in this book. So much so that's it's keeping me up thinking about how all these texts connect so beautifully. I hope you can have some time to tell me your side.
Jehovah is God Almighty, Sovereign Lord of the universe.(you already know that)
He(Jehovah) has made Jesus Christ, his son, king of his Kingdom. The Bible often refers to both names interchangeably.
The distinction between the two biblically, is unmistakable. Throughout the gospels, Jesus' reliance on his father is obvious.
At 1st Cor.15:20-28, Paul explains that Jesus' reign is temporary. The "bottom line" is if the owner of a company delegates/entrusts authority to his son, it doesn't mean that he(the father) relinquishes ownership to him.
Hope this helps.
There is also a Bible called the Divine Name King James Bible you can also check out
@@rogerhewitt9061 that is very nice 👍. We have no problem with using the divine name in the Bible. The problem is that JW *_insert_* the divine name in the NT 237 times where it doesn't belong because the original authors did not use the divine name in the Greek manuscripts.
They also purposely don't insert the divine name in certain verses that are citations of the OT, Greek Septuagint LXX, *where 'Lord' is the divine name* in the original. For example, in Isaiah 45:23-25 'Lord' means 'YHWH' but JW keep the word 'Lord' in the citation because it is about Jesus in Phil 2:10-11.
Gollllldennnn thank youuuuuu
@Ripcord this is great! Ty
excellent video, even though they have corrupted the word of God with their translation, there is still enough in there to show them that Jesus Christ is our great God and Savior
I love both of your styles so much!! So nice to see such brilliant people serving the Lord! Praise God!
I’m was just thinking and praying about this in church yesterday. Thank you for the resource.
Awesome video. I love all your content, but this is one of the best vids on the channel. Jw's showed up at my house this weekend, and I invited the back to further discuss the gospel. Can't wait to bring these points up! God bless you both Melissa & Vada! Keep on running the race
John 2:21 "The Temple He spoke of was His Body" (about the resurrection) - this is a good Scripture to share with them because they say The Body of Jesus did not rise. And in their "new world translation" they forgot to change the word - and it also says "BODY" - so you can prove to them in their version that Jesus predicted HIS BODY would rise. God is good! - 4983 sṓma - the physical body.
I just had JWs show up to my apartment, and I probably only answered them because I thought it may have been maintenance since I put in a request this morning. Their pamphlet had Isaiah 9:6 on it (with only the first half of the verse on it), and got to show them in the New World Translation that one of the names for Jesus is "Mighty God". I am so glad that this video helped me be able to point that out to them. It may be after the video, but I knew that God was working through the conversation.
Thank you, this was very well presented with love. As you spoke about the movie Alien, and the force shield had to be removed to reach the ship, I thought about how even the apostle Paul had to have the scales removed from his eyes before he could see the truth that was about to be presented to him. I think many of us had to have the scales of preconceived ideas removed, before we could see truth.
The truth is soo much fun and draws me in and never want to stop. My soul was sad, depressed and heavy under the JW spell.
Thank you so much for this continent this is really awesome and will help me in my Ministry with my husband we love talking to Jehovah's Witnesses we got to go into the assembly the other day with the King James Bible it was pretty cool and no one threw us out so I was super happy about that and felt God helping us get through it
This is probably one of the best apologetic videos out there to date . Had the unction to stop at 2 separate carts this past Sunday , sure wish I watched this video before . This definitely reignited my love and passion for the image bearers
A clear case of the BLIND leading the BLIND. WOW!
Loved this interview. Many blessings to you both and your families. :)
I love the content guys. I have a couple aunts who are JW’s trying to get enough information to have a productive conversation with them.
One note, in the beginning of the video the guy said someone told him that gentiles doesn’t mean gentiles… the word gentiles is a Latin word transliterated into English and it means “nations”… it doesn’t mean specifically people who are non-Jewish as I grew up learning. It’s used in Genesis 10 before “Jews” ever existed… secondly a lot of folks forget that “the Jews” are a very small part of Israel. When we get into the NT the Northern kingdom (the majority of Israel, is scattered amongst the nations…
Bless you both and your loved ones. May Holy Spirit continually provide the wisdom showed in this collaboration with one another as Holy Spirit led one another for being in unity of His truth being revealed. May this go far and wide for all whom need a spark to light a fire in their heart for knowing Jesus our God is the same, three in one, Father, Son, Holy Ghost, yet being One God. Glory be to Jesus; the Alpha and Omega; King of kings; the Great I AM, forevermore.
Oh Melissa, this was so good and so informative! I love the interviews you have! I always learn something! I'm actually very curious, as many interviews as you've done, with ex-mormons, former atheists, etc... Do you personally know of any ex-JWs now Christian who would be willing to do an interview with you? Or is it harder to find them because of how tough it is to get the locks off and the fear they may experience by speaking out? I ask because I have such a hard time finding ex-JWs on RUclips who came to Christ. I have found MANY who speak out and are just floating around and even some that woke up only to end up atheists or new-agers...but next to NONE who have come to know Jesus! If you know of anyone, I would love to hear their testimony!
Melissa please pin this comment
25:35 Starts
26:04 The Heavens are the work of your hands
31:18 Hebrews 1:8 was changed
34:45 Jesus is the lamp
40:57 Jesus is also the temple
44:43 Created all [ other ] things
56:50 Firstborn, not first created
59:42 The Holy Spirit speaks
1:07:13 The Holy Spirit fills
1:13:13 The Alpha and the Omega
1:18:18 Jesus is the Judge
Islam and JW have common agenda.
God bless
There's no such thing as g god there's only one God and is with capital G so Yeshua Jesus is God back in his kingdom in a spirit
Where exactly is Jesus the Temple may we ask?
Too, if a Firstborn of God is not brought into existence, why is he called the Firstborn of all creation (Col 1:15)?
BTW Jesus is APPOINTED Judge by God.
John 5:22 For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,
The Government APPOINTS the Judges. The Judges cannot appoint themselves.
@@jimjuri6490 I pray that the true God removes the scales from your eyes. What I noticed about JWs is that your god is not Jehovah, your god is the organisation itself, so when anything, even from the Bible goes against what the organisation teaches you cant see it, because you're taught that your god does no wrong. Test all things (1 Thessalonians 5:21), if its the truth it will stand, if its a lie it will fall. Be genuine in your search, the Almighty will help you. Start with the most clear verses, once you are sincere with the ones that are obvious, the Holy Spirit will reveal the mysteries. God bless you
Ty very much for this video, so informative. My brother, my Mom and I studied on this video and we are so amazed and have absorbed so much more knowledge about Jehova witnesses and their different beliefs. Debunked definitely!
I know I'm late here but this man is very knowledgable. I have learned so much from this video. I live in an area with more Mormons than JWs but if i ever get a chance to hang out with one I can come back to this video and show them what their book says. Thank you so much Melissa for putting out this video!
This is timely!! Thanks Melissa! I’m currently witnessing to an ex JW who is just not seeing that Jesus is God 😢
I am an ex JW and I doubt that I will ever accept that Jesus is Almighty God.
@@jamesbovington8218 Hi James, can I ask why is that? Are you after the truth?
It’s imperative because Jesus is the One in which we are saved by. We trust in Him and His sacrifice for salvation. Jesus is also the One we face at the end to give an account for our lives, Jesus is the One who saves and judges us! His name even means: God saves.
@@HopeKuhn Why does that mean that he's Almighty God?
@@jamesbovington8218 Check out the channel and books of Greg Stafford. You will get an objective view about Jehovah's Witnesses and their theology.
Jesus is not Almighty God. The Father is.
I don’t know the NWT, and I don’t know their explanation for the many verses where the Bible speaks of His deity, but this I know… When, in John 8, Jesus says, “before Abraham was, I AM,” the Jews picked up stones to stone Him (the penalty for blasphemy) because they knew perfectly well what He was saying about Himself.
This brother is SANCTIFIED. This was excellent. His teaching is a blessing. Very sound and practical.
Oh the timing!!! Out on a run/walk on our trail near my house this morning and there were JW that brought out a bench and were sitting under a tree with a big display of brochures and Bible study info to talk with bikers and walkers. I was thinking as I passed them of what I would say to them, praying they would see His truth was the first thing that came to mind. They didn't reach out as I had earbuds in, so they just smiled and said good morning.
I went thrifting and found a JW bible. I'm not sure how they feel about writing in their bibles but I am taking notes in order as you described here. So good, I had to just listen to it the first time. Hoping this new group of JW people that seemed to have found me can benefit from this teaching.
KEEP DOING THIS, this was awesome.
I love this video. I grew up a JW and was disfellowshipped at 15 years old. I found my way back to God eventually, but for a while I fell victim to the woke nonsense going on in the world, because I had no morality anymore when I left, and wasn't sure a God existed. Everything you said was spot on.
Try to look at bible it is book that comforts us and keep studying the bible it gives u hoe and u can have a realathion with God bible big book and takes king time to under stand it so pray first for Gods sprit to help u all the best
Great information, can't wait until part 2, very very helpful and informative. Thank Both of You! Great Job! Feel like I've been to Bible Study! Full Buffet Style!
Blessedly awesome! When the Word of God is opened, clarity ensues...taking notes!
Beautifully done. Thanks for this, God bless both of you
Amazing, brazen, (by the grace of God!) Out of all of the ex jw’s videos I have never heard anyone of them get past the personal feelings so I am soooo❤ glad that you guys will open eyes and minds past the pain, hurt, loneliness of leaving and explain the contradictions, lies, unreasonable thinking, stubbornness, and the gall of changing the Bible, literally changing the very teachings.
I am 65 and in my sixities I have just gotten to the point of talking about my feelings and expressing the wrong of the gray Bible and read comments, watch the videos (pro/con) without guilt or fear. I have chills!
What prevents Holy Spirit from being present and active is pride.
Legalism is also a serious problem in many religions.
There's a desperate desire to go back to the old law, because it worked so well.
Jesus Christ came and fulfilled the Mosaic law and now we are to be more spiritual.
Without humility, it's impossible to grow a spiritual heart.
Some JW placed their faith in the law and not in the love Jesus Christ taught us to develop.
God bless you, people. jW are coming to my door all the time. And i will be more than willing to share the gospel with this revelation that you both brought up. This is gold.
On Christmas day a few years ago I stopped to see if a couple I saw in the park were in need. It's not normal to see people on Christmas day from afar with a sign. I quickly realized they were JW's. I knew they didn't believe Jesus is God. So here's how the story end's. It was cold I suggested we debate over email. His final statement was that when the Bible says LORD it was translated to mean YHWH (Jehovah). I tried several John 1 arguments and he turned it around with JW circular references. Finally I went back and remembered his LORD statement. I presented Philippians 2:5-11. Jesus is LORD! Every knee shall bow and tongue confess. The email debate ended and I presumed victory. End of story? Not yet. Almost a year later I got a knock on the door Thanksgiving weekend and it's Gustave the JW. I invite him in and asked how have you been but why are you here we never exchanged personal contact info. He said he was looking for a house down the street and came to my house by mistake. I said it's no accident. I shared my love for him and witnessed to him in front of my family. Not sure what happened after that. The seed was planted and so to say I implanted the truth bomb into the mother ship. Thanks for the interview and conversation. Thanks for letting me share. We all need to be unafraid to share the gift that has been given to us. Whom shall I fear and whom shall I obey God or man? Listen to who your talking to when we share before you start speaking another language. It's hard to listen to family and strangers talk about how far they are from God. We are the indwelling of The Holy Spirit of God who is Jesus. Sometimes Jesus just wants us to let him speak while we surrender our arguments and let him love them as only he can do in his way and in his timing.
Something that helped me with this revelation is the original word used for "Word". "In the beginning was the Word. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. Then then Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (paraphrased by me lol). The term used originally for "Word" is "Logos", which is where we get the term "logic" from. Jesus is the manifestation of logic and life itself, the truth, the way, etc. manifested into a human being as God Himself, logic and truth turned into Man. May take a min to get it but once you see it it makes a lot more sense in my opinion! Hope this helps someone. 🙂
Has anyone created a chart, A->B, and/or consolidated list of NWT passages to bring up to JWs?
It’s just very hard to remember everything, though I know I should attempt to memorize some.
That’s what I’m going to try to do in the next couple days!
Please do a second one of these, I have been talking to Jehovah's witnesses in the park, and these are great arguments for me to use!!!
Dear Melissa: Thank you so much for doing this. This "Bible study" has been so wonderful. I Christian and have (for some time now) a co-worker (who I call friend) who is a devout Jehovah's Witness. God has placed her upon my heart. She has witnessed to me a couple times and each time I have challenged her with what is said in the JW bible and the NKJ bible. The last time was about blood transfusions. At the end of that discussion she was actually getting angry with me. I want so much to be the "pebble" in her shoe but, afraid if I push to hard she wont talk to me.
I have watched your video's, Mike Winger's and Allen Parr's channels regarding JW. I think maybe Vada Hedgemanis going to be my next resource. If you have any advise please feel free (or anyone) to share.
God bless you and yours.
I have the same problem with them to they are very rotted in they believe
I asked a JW to tell me from revelation 1.4-5 who gave the words of this book to John ?
Hey Jean,
Are you and the JW still conversing over doctrines?
Watch Anthony Rogers on RUclips
@@evahughes6807 it quite sad really.
Thank you so much for this great teachings, I've learned so much. May the Lord Jesus bless you 🙏🏾
I think it's dangerous to read other religious works only if you are not thoroughly grounded in scripture and the truth. I do think we need to know what scripture actually says so we know the truth and can give proper answers in a loving way.
Jw hush
Are you a JW?
@@landygreene8523they are absolutely right. If you don't know the true you can't spot the forgery.
Got my NWT all marked up, pray for witnessing opportunities 🙏 (Liverpool 🇬🇧) ex Mormon temple worker btw! All glory to God
Also - Revelation 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: - (in their new world translation) they kept the word that Jesus said He was "THE FIRST AND THE LAST" - compare this to Isaiah 44:6 where "Jehovah" said He was The First and The Last - see video / RUclips - Jesus is Lord - Evidence in the First Bible Code - Genesis 1:1
Can you give the exact verse that explains that when Jesus said that He's the First and the Last, he means talking about His dying...??? Thanks!
@@JazFP_Jona Revelation chapter 1 verses 17 and 18 = 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
@@JazFP_Jona in the new world translation - (which I do not accept - but for witnessing purposes) Jesus also says...Rev 1:17- “Do not be afraid. I am the First+ and the Last,+ 18 and the living one,+ and I became dead,+ but look! I am living forever and ever,+ and I have the keys of death and of the Grave.*+
My apologies. My question was actually directed to @moses livingstone but thanks, though. 😊
@@moseslivingstone1258 but Jesus himself said that he has always existed and so did John the Baptist. I’m not saying that John the Baptist was eternal I’m saying that John the Baptist said that Jesus existed before him.
I'm very glad i listened to this. My wife is getting involved in New Age Christianity. Christ consciousness and all that, but a unique aspect of it is that she believes YHWH in the OT is not the same entity as the Father and Jesus in the NT. YHWH is some lesser Gnostic entity. Yet all these texts show that Jesus is YHWH.
Having been raised by New Age teachers the term "Christ consciousness" is very familiar to me. I'm not sure if it will help but I'm going to show you a question that I ask JWs that they cannot give an honest answer to:
In the following passage, who is being sent, and who is sending him?
"For *this is what the Lord Almighty (YHWH) says:* “After the Glorious One has *sent ME* against the nations that have plundered you-for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye- I will surely raise my hand against them so that their slaves will plunder them. *Then you will know that the Lord Almighty (YHWH) has sent me."* (Zechariah 2:7-9)
This question even works with the next two verses.
Who is being sent, and who is sending him?
"For *I am coming,* and I will live among you,” *declares the LORD (YHWH).* “Many nations will be joined with the Lord in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that *the Lord Almighty has sent me to you."* (Zechariah 2:10-11)
Great video! Valuable information! Regarding firstborns: Ephraim and Manasseh! Which was first, and which was preeminent?😁
Prophet Melissa, again you are growing in grace.. May God bless
This is what happens when you take scriptures out of context. Why not start reading the Book of Hebrews from the beginning to gain a better understanding. Or even better, first pray for God to help you understand the meaning of his word.
So, let's read from the begginning of the chapter. Which translation do you normally use? KJV? Verse 2: "[God] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" (ASV reads: "hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds;" - I always like to have a few Bible translations open to compare them). So, God has spoken at the end of those days in (or by or through) his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things and through whom also HE made the worlds (heaven and earth). So who is HE? Jehovah God. Jehovah created the worlds by/through Jesus.
But you skipped this part and you started from verse 8, one of the quotes from the Old Testament that were written about someone else but also can apply to Jesus. Oddly enough, and conveniently, you then ommit verse 9. Why?
Let's read if from KJV: "Thou [Jesus] hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." So Jesus' God anointed Jesus with the oil of gladness above his fellows. Say what? Jesus had God? Yes, yes he did. Just as we read also in John 20:17 of KJV: "Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God."
So in verse 8 Jehovah God calls Jesus God and tells him that for being righteous, his throne is forever, after God exalts Jesus to the highest position. That is in agreement with 1Cor 15:27,28 KJV: "For he [Jehovah] hath put all things under his [Jesus'] feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."
NWT translation is a little clearer here: "For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone". So at the end of God's plan, Jesus is to subject himself to Jehovah. How can this be right, if you say that Jesus IS Jehovah?
I fail to see how showing Jesus to be like minded to God can prove him to be God, God has given the administration to his son he is in fact a representative of God, other scriptures in the bible refer to Jesus being a father that doesn't mean he's Jehovah, words that are used here are controversial to say the least, and the scriptures say and they will have to know that I am Jehovah a name removed from the scriptures clearly they don't want to talk about replacing it with God or lord when clearly it says the tetragrammerton yhwh or Jehovah,.
Oh my goodness, I love him! 🤗 Thank you so much for sharing this video, Melissa! God bless you guys! 🙏
A friend of the family passed away; she was a Jehovah's Witness. My wife and I went to the service. A man started it off by saying that they would be reading passages out of the King James Version. I turned to my wife and smiled and told her that they think all versions of the Bible except theirs (New World Translation) are corrupt. Bait and switch. In another incident about 30 yrs. ago, a friend of mine (a JW) worked next to our store. He found out he couldn't get to me and he brought in a heavy hitter one day after work. After a short time, the guy got so frustrated with me he started poking me in the chest saying, "You know I'm right, you know I'm right." I told him that I knew he was wrong. Boom, he was out the door. I didn't get mad or holler or anything like that. I just let him know what I believed w/verses and stuck with it. My friend had given me a copy of the NWT and the 1st thing I wrote in it was, "The thought behind this book is a lie." I was thinking of another incident. A several JW’s would come by the drugstore leave their literature on a rack that we had for all kinds of information. and sometimes get their medicine. After they would leave, I would take their literature off the rack. I would keep it to read just to know where they’re coming from. One day, an elderly lady came in to leave their magazines. I gave her 2 gospel tracts and she literally came unglued. She took them but she was about as nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rockers. She high-tailed it out of there and I never saw them in the store again. I wasn’t expecting that kind of reaction. Poor lady.
The Holy Spirit one had my spirit doing the jumping for joy praise break! Praise be God Almighty!
Great video! If you look at Genesis 3:3-4 and you'll see how Satan added the word "not" to God's word to alter it's meaning and deceive Eve. It's one of Satan's most effective means of deception and he's still using it today through his earthly organization. Proverbs 30:6 "Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you and you be found a liar."
One thing they will not tell you is that the Tetragrammaton is never used in the Greek Scriptures but they have replaced Lord and God in almost all the places in the New Testament with Jehovah. I was raised in it and left as I went into College because I didn't get baptized as a youth. Then only to think I needed spirituality in my life and went back in my thirties and got baptized married an elder that I later recognized as actually demonized and ended up cheating with another sister. The teachings just started grating on my soul and I started just staying away from the meetings and reading the Bible and then incorporating the other 9 bibles I have and I ended up reprogramming myself. LOL This was a really Good video and helpful to perhaps have a discussion with my immediate family❣ Thank YOU
Lesson begins at 23:24 minutes.
Your point?
Thank you I was looking for this lol
Awesome massage. Im taking notes 📝. Jesus es the Lord. Amen
The apostlrs worshipped Jesus after He rose again and they were not rebuked by him. However Jehovah and Jesus are not the same.Jesus calls Himself the Son of Man...pls refer to the prophecy in Daniel, Ancient of Days is Jehovah, Jesus is the Son of Man.Also we are meant to know God Who sent Jesus through knowing Jesus...Jesus is the image of His Father...He came so we can know Who God is...but He stresses He is the Son of Man.We have to correct this guys...
I love yall. I think the same way. You guys are SO exciting. Praise the LORD
I’m a JW and I’ve done the research needed to be secure in my beliefs. I have found that the NWT is indeed more accurate than the KJV. And I have learned why that is by researching the Koine Greek and its meaning and its grammatical arrangement. So for me I’m very happy with my religious choice of beliefs. But I do wish you nothing but the best. If anyone has a honest question feel free to ask. Don’t ask if you just want to debate to feel better than me. No one is better than the other. Just remember how Jehovah feels about us as equals.
JWs changed their book .. look into it
@@watchwomandebrajesusistheway Do you mean in the NWT?
@@watchwomandebrajesusistheway what book?
Nice JOB!! Vada and Melissa THANK YOU
Didn’t Jesus specifically claim that He (Jesus) had a God? The bible clearly described Jesus fearfully obeyed and worshipped His God. It’s right in your bible.
We know, it's God the Father. Which doesn't make Jesus, the Son of God any less of God.
Jesus is referring to the Father. Jesus refers to the Father as "God." Then the apostle Thomas refers to Jesus as "my Lord and my God." There are so many verses in the Bible that refer to Jesus as divine that any verse to the contrary is a contradiction.
I have been a Witness for three years and stumbled on this video. WOW! I will definitely think about this. Thank you!!
These apostates are fulfilling
2 Thessalonians 2:3 and don't realize
I have a couple of JWs coming to talk this week...I've been researching and watching alot of your videos ( awesome BTW). I'm learning on how the JWs came up with their translation of scripture. But what if they ask.." who came up with your translation?" There are so many different translations into English of the Holy Bible...what is the correct answer to give them? Do you have a video on this?
It's usually relatively easy to find out who is on the translation committee of Bible's.
For instance, if you search "ESV translation committee" you can get the degrees and positions held by the translation committee members so you can see what credentials they have as scholars.
Jw's will claim that they don't list the names of their translation members because they want God to get the glory but it's not about detracting from God's glory. The issue is if the NWT members are qualified scholars.
It depends upon the translation. Many have groups of people, some have only one person. Mostly now if I remember correctly they use a greek lexicon made up from the relevant greek texts. And translate from there. For the New Testament.
My suggestion is to use their bible. Not just the 2013 addition of the NWT but their kingdom interlinear too.
There are several scriptures you can use to show the differences between the Bible’s also
John 1:1
Colossians 1:15,16
John 8:58
From there, a couple of questions you can ask them:
1) who gave them the authority to change the Bible? God or man?
2) why are there differences between the Bible’s made/produced by the JW’s?
3) does the new bible(NWT 2013) contradict the hold one (NWT1984/kingdom interlinear?
Don’t let them control the conversation.
Hope this helps
@@mmltpb14 We talk about changes in the Bible and ignore the MAJOR change of removing the Fathers name from the Bible. Why do you think that was done?
@@sgame82 the fathers name is never mentioned in the New Testament according to the Greek(the original language)
The witnesses have 3 bibles they’ve made and all of them say something different. How can that be? Did the spirit get it wrong or did man?
You guys are amazing. Actually, i have a current bible study with the Jehovah's witnesses. This type of content will help me a lot.
God bless you both!
Could you also go to Jeremiah 32 verse 18 Deuteronomy chapter 10 verse 17 Isaiah chapter 10 verse 21, and then also read Revelation 2213 where it talks about Jesus being the Almighty God in the New World translation and also could you go to as well second Corinthians chapter 3 verse 12 and 18 in the New World translation for us. I’ll follow right along.
This is a wonderful video. It is important to use their language and know their definitions for words. I am having to watch for a second time. And probably a third in the future. Many thanks.
Any tips for when they shut down and accuse you of apostasy, even if you show them from their own literature?! For context, I’m a born in exjw and my mom and dad are still in and in DEEP.
Do not give up, Be kind and pray that God opens doors to them to seek truth. Ask them why org. In New York forbids them to read, listen, or study the N K J, or NASB or even New Living Bible, NIV, and others that have not been changed . NWT is changed to fit JW organization. Jesus loves them and wants to Save them to enter into God's Kingdom when they die. To die is gain if you trust in Jesus. This is our temporary dwelling place/ home. God's Heaven is Eternal.
I am in the exact same situation
@@Vicky-bn6in only part you got wrong was the other Bible translations that they can’t read or study. They literally have those translations in their app
Yes pleeeeease do another video! Soon too! Thank you for the work you do 🙏
I just start with John 1:1
I find this to be fruitless. Of all the scriptures in the Bible that they have an 'explanation' for, this one will take you down one of the longest rabbit trails. They will combat with you for hours prodding away at Koine greek using words that most of us (and likely them as well) don't understand or have even heard. They are so indoctrinated to think that their explanation is correct and they'll hop through all sorts of hoops to espouse it, it just doesn't seem worth it to me. I feel like the book of Hebrews is a better place to start. Much love to you
Praise the Lord and thank you for sharing your story. I love you ❤ I’m a subscriber on Snapchat and I am now a new subscriber on RUclips. You’re a strong woman and God definitely has a plan for your life.
A loaded question is worth a thousand words. Ask a JW for an example of Jehovah's almighty power in action. The greatest example they can give is the creation of the Universe. But, John 1:3 says, "All things were made by him and without him was nothing made." So, Jesus is almighty according to the JW who gave you this example.
Learning and take note for use for witnessing to the Jehovah Witnesses... 🇧🇷 directily from Brazil...! Very good content... congrats!
Welp your very first point you used was wrong. Read the whole chapter and don't cherry pick scriptures. Verse 9 clearly states that Jesus had a God and that Jesus was exultated more than his companions. Who was his companions? Verse 13 says to sit at my right hand. Was the Father telling himself to sit at his right hand? I'm going to stop the video here because it was clearly cherry picked. Don't be misled.
So you don't want to hear the cumulative argument? Got it. I will pray for your eyes to be opened.
@@markwhite116 I've heard it. You can usually tell where someone is going by cherry picking. I hope you come to know the truth.
everyone cherry picks because cherries are delicious. you can basically prove anything
Oh my! Preach! Yes, everyone we run into, interact with is an IMAGE BEARER, a person made by Good in HIS IMAGE!!
This would be a lot less of a waste of time if the first 25:00 minutes wasn't spent talking trash about everyone you disagree with.
Be kind
@@sherylmarshall1444 Rewind
@@Michael-Archonaeus They are discussing the cultural context of the modern issue.
I wanted to contact you to download how to witness to a JW this video was spot-on I'm so excited I can't get enough of you 2 I would love to be an apologist but I'm 66 years old and feel the urgency of winning Souls over through our Lord God and savior
My favorite guest I have seen yet
I am a very happy person since I became a Jehovah Witness, it changed my life in the most positive of ways, leagues better than the Catholic Church ever did. You paint them in a very bad way, we cannot be judged the way you have.
Well, the Catholic Church does have its own issues.
@@micahrodriguez6419 like all religious institutes, none are perfect!
@@Callumdevan17 True!!!!!!!
It's very clear that Jesus and his father are very close because Jesus is the administrator also what ever the father dose he does also,without stirring contention if the name Jehovah has been removed from the bible in the Hebrew scripture and replaced with God and lord, why? Regardless of the dispute of the Christian Greek scripture, but as a lot of terminology in the bible language can be interchangeable with both the father and the son, proves that the father is very close to the son, but Regardless of debating these subjects amongst yourself a Jehovah witness was not present to answer your understanding, from what I know each scripture mentioned can be easily manipulated to convince an audience if there is no one to defend these statements, why don't you write to the Jehovahs witnesses and ask them directly each question I have no other complaint other than I personally don't make any judgement unless both parties have the opportunity to have their say otherwise it becomes just another opinion,
Great video. I really enjoyed it. Thank you. 😊❤️
Thank You, from Germany! You've given me the finishing facts to help two jws to see our Savior. I must add, researching YHWH, I found that the terms "Jehovah" & "Yahweh" don't exsist in the Torah, Sepuagint, Samaritan Pentateuch, nor the writings from Flavius Josephus. This in my perspective, strengthens Yehoshua to be the Way, the Truth, and the Life! His Name, His Good News, His Works, His Love, His Blood, His Resurrection, His Spirit! Just thought you might be interested. God Bless.
WOW. I'm learning so much just listening to this great discussion. Thank you both! I turned back to God through SDA/ seventh day adventists. I'm not SDA, but they were every instrumental in my recovery. The one real messed up damage I had from DSA is the vegan diet the push. It took me a while to realize the diet of excess fruit and grains made me food addicted and carbohydrate addicted. It's a recipe for making more diabetics. Their food pyramid is very wrong. I had to add meat and animal fats to heal. SDA influences the dietary rules in a very negative way.
I was an ex new ager. Diet influences intrigue me especially fasting. Using dietary guidance and food restriction times or dietary trends is a topic on its own I can suggest to look into. Cultural diets strongly linked to health and affects our concentration. Brain fog is real. Producing ketones is good to focus and understand What we are reading.
Well done! I recently started working for a business that is owned by a JW family. They are definitely not "the happiest people". I pray that God will give me the right opportunity to share my faith and open their eyes and hearts to the truth.