Wobo see if you shoot 2 guns directly too each other at the same time like if a bullet can stop another bullet when they hit each other and doo the same with a rocket please
I'm very very happy to see the VSS finally getting some love, it's just such a cool weapon that is being thrown into the 'trash' cathegory just because it's small mag, but now with this buff it's a monster
To be perfectly honest even with the 10 round mag i'm confident this weapon was far better than anyone gave it credit for - it always has been one of the most judged and underestimated since alpha.....Personally ive always enjoyed the power of pulling "Joker card tactics"
@@theDackjanielz exactly, i once took down a fully geared 3 man squad just by chambering it with AP rounds, it indeed was a very good and VERY underestimated weapon even before this buff, but now it's a destroyer
@@jonnycurran6813 It is an unfortunate side effect yeah - in alpha no one touched them with a barge pole so i collected them all the time, sure do miss those days.
"God I'm tired of the VAL in MW, maybe I should play Tarkov" "OK, so Nikita buffed 9x39 and now the Val is meta again. Maybe I should pick up DayZ again" "Bruh"
The 10 round mag was just a small hindrance to me, the VSS has always been my favorite and people slept on it because of the mag size. Its so damn good in close quarters and sniping medium ranges since the enemy simply can't hear where you're shooting from
The only reason why I don't use these weapons is due to the subsonic velocity. I tend to get into long range gunfights where an LAR or M4 would be much easier to tag targets.
I’m likely going to use the Val with a Lar combo. At least until someone decides to finally patch a certain exploit on the console versions of the game...dayz. Please finally fix the unmentionable exploits
Always loved the little VSS, now it has a twinsy for me to also love! And the AP rds were always OP, just let down by the mag size as you said, so excited to see the meta change
No, the AP rounds should not completely ignore armor. If the regular rounds do 47.5 damage against armored targets (half of unarmored) then the AP rounds should do roughly 75 damage so they're only losing 20% of their damage through armor. Also, the AP rounds penetration value should be buffed, +10% isn't enough, it should be around +30%, IMO.
the mechanic just does not work like that. The armored vests all have a 50% damage reduction against bullets. And they do that as long as their hitpoints are not depleted. If the hitpoints are not sufficient, the complete damage of the round is applied. The AP rounds seem to bypass this mechanic. So they would need to introduce a new damage function to handle the AP rounds in order to implement this. I mean it's not impossible but currently pretty unlikely.
Yes, they should ignore armor because of the steel core penetrator but should have slightly higher dispersion because the steel core isn't perfectly centered from round to round. That's only if their roughly the s as me as a XM855 green tip.
i like this change imo and the VSS/VAL with AP rounds while pumping out insane dmg has a trade off with being poor for sniping and longer ranges meaning it will be a monster in Close to medium range, thats what i feel will balance it out compared to the 308 LAR, boils down to high dmg or having higher velocity on rounds for better ranged combat
Well "armor piercing" doesn't mean magic bullets. Depending on the bullet and cartridge design it either should have increased manstopping power after penetration of the armor, or lower manstopping power, but certainly no the same man stopping power as if it didn't penetrate any armor.
It certainly makes the LAR better at medium distances compared to the AP round weps. But when it comes to range, there is a gap between Vaiga and LAR that the VSS/VAL fits in nicely.
@@WOBO The Arma devs did a great job of giving you incentives to use in game weapons for the same purpose they were designed irl. That spirit has carried over to Dayz
remember peeps that the VSS fires what is basically a pistol slug combine that with the AP\SP-6 rounds and the VSS can still to this day punch though alot of modern body armor........however i think the armor system we have in dayZ and i`am gonna say it, it really sucks, the way armor works in dayZ is the armor does not stop the bullet it reduced the amount of damage taken but still allows the bullet though the armor......i played a server called ZERO deer isles, they have a modded armor system....that stops the bullet going though until the vest\helmet breaks...you will still receive shock damage from the blunt from impact that is your body armor soaking up the rounds.. this means if hit in chest with buck shot at point blank range the vest will soak up the shot but be completely ruined and you will get knocked out but you won`t take health damage....unless a second buck shot is applied to ur totally ruined armor.......this means that helmet or vest will protect from a few shots depending on the caliber.......this means also it quite likely you`ll knock out your target during combat which means you need to double tap or take the target captive........this Zero deer isle server with this armor mod did not make combat feel bullet sponge it just adjust he way armor works so it actually protects you until it is ruined i really think we need an armor system that does not work like we are playing a fallout 4...cos that how armor works in fallout it reduced damage taken but you still take health damage.....i`ve watched alot of ballistic testing and i can tell you now that the game Escape from Tarkov massively exaggerate how much armor can protect a person.... after watching proper non fake ballistic test of certain russian helmets they stand up and protect fairly well until assault rifle cal bier firing hardener steel core AP ammo.... here is my source\link to proper non fake ballistic test of actual Russian helmets used in tarkov and dayZ.... ruclips.net/video/nyKnKbhAyu0/видео.html this channel is called Oxide and this youtuber and the supporting community have spent alot of money together to do these tests as expensive russian gear does not grow on trees and these tests can help game devs make more realistic armor......pls leave a like and sub for the ballistic test vidoes i`ve linked
Its good on paper but in reality tagets dont stand still. I still would go for .308 armour or no armour. Although I was mentioning this in previous videos that you ignore the existence of AP ammunition so Im glad you made video about it finally.
If I had to choose I'd still pick a FN FAL because it has more constistant ballistics and longer ranges and ammo availbility. That being said this buff really makes AS VAL/Vintorez great again. I wish they would give a little buff to pistol rounds and 7.62x39 mm too.
7.62x39 reeally needs to do more damage than 5.45x39 and 5.56x45 like it used to rn it's just dumb to use it, it's slower, has higher recoil, and does the same damage as these other rounds
Maybe we should have plates like what call of duty Warzone have where you pick up plates and stick it in your plate, carrier or an animation for that that would be pretty cool
I'd love to see 5.56 AP and I wouldn't mind seeing a vpo .366 shotgun, either the bolt action or the semi automatic with AP rounds. Also with shotguns esp with saiga I find going for legs works super well you almost always get an instant knock out unless it's a modded server. Super nasty with the drum mag.
I like use lar with combat sight as main gun for shooting enemies at close/medium range. Idk but the asval/vss still can be worst compared to the lar because of the bullet speed is so low that make me prefer other weapons
My only gripes with the SVAL is the fire rate and that exclusive attachment for the rail system. The fire rate should be increase to 900RPM as that's what it is for it's IRL counterpart, however I can understand why they didn't due to game balance. And with the rail system, I feel like the other AK variant weapons should be allowed to use such an attachment, it's so cool to be able to use NATO optics on an AK weapon. Overall, I'm excited to see the weapon in action and I can't wait to see what we can do with mods for it ;)
Yeah, we already have mods to do that in dayZ, I do it all the time in tarkov, just add a mount with a picatinny rail that goes on russian rails, all the aks, SVD and VSS/VAL would be able to be used with every sight/scope
I think the 20 round mag shouldn't be added at all, as something similar to the ssg and Aug from csgo will happen, where it is already a very strong weapon with it's own ups and downs, but it is only after it is buffed that people will begin using it.
Honestly I think this is all perfectly fine in theory but in my opinion now they just need to increase the range in which you can audibly hear a suppressed weapon because there's just this strange cut off where they stop making sounds that can make it impossible to even know your being shot at sometimes. I don't mind the inability to decipher the direction the fire is coming from immediately but you should always know when your getting shot at especially within relatively close range. Unless I'm entirely mistaken and my ears have deceived me this whole time in which case I'm off to go buy hearing aids.
something doesn't add up for me, First off I love that the VSS is finally becoming useful but I think the buff is exaggerated a little bit. Now although the increased damage with armor-piercing rounds does make the gun extremely powerful against armored players, both the VSS and LAR still take 2 body shots to kill which puts them in my mind equal. And with the LAR being one shot without armor, that makes it a clear winner for the better gun
I do think the AP rounds should ignore the armour, after all they're called armour piercing. However I do think that because they do it so well, that having some form of counter to wouldn't be too bad of an idea if it was implemented well. Adding another form of plate carrier that could reduce it's damage, but don't reduce it by a ridiculous amount. Something around 20% I think would be a good number. After all there needs to be a reason to use the AP rounds. The problem then arises that if another form of plate carrier is introduced into the game to somewhat counter the AP rounds, then that plate carrier would make the other obsolete, and would be OP as all fuck, against non AP munitions such as 5.56, or 7.62x39.
Does the 20rd mag really work with the VSS? I saw another video by MARKS and he said it does not work at the moment and at the beginning of your video the VSS has definitely the smaller mag.
@@lukazuza64 by no recoil I meant Less recoil as it has right now. The Caliba is bigger but not the grain I think Also the 308 (7.62 x 51) should be unhandled at full auto
I really would like to see DayZ with the Escape from Tarkov gunhandling. Would feel so much better. I really love DayZ but I just can´t take it anymore to just keep on having weird ass gunhandling when there are better options same for hitting moving targets on crowded servers with mods
Hey WOBO, could you make a video investigating inventory priority? I've noticed when doing the automatic magazine reload by hold R, it grabs the first available magazine in my inventory and loads it in, but the empty magazine tends to jump randomly into different inventory spaces, rather than into my plate carrier where I like to store them, could you investigate this pattern further? Or possibly try to figure out how you consistently keep magazines in the correct inventory spaces?
The plate carriers are still effective, just not against this beast, so the plate carrier isn't "useless" per se. With that said, the SVAL spawn rates should be SUPER LOW. For the record, as long as we're talking about rendering certain gear useless, a tac helmet is no better than a boonie hat vs. the SVAL.
They are supposed to wipe all characters and servers on Feb 14, so all duped loot will be put back into rotation. Plus the ASVAL is a helicopter drop, so it is supposed to ignore server economy
I certainly like it. Whoever is using the VSS/AS VAL gets to ignore armor, and the trade off is that 9x39 is much harder to use at range so the user is a bit limited when it comes to long range fights. I think that's fair. Honestly though, its nice that there's a weapon that is a huge middle finger to anyone wearing armor.
I killed a bunch of guys on OFF and they had 3 Svals. At Staroye, I'm not sure if they duped them. Also 2 LARs. If they did, they suck for that but I'm still keeping the guns
.308 travels in the air faster, has more weapons that use it, is more common to find and is still a two shot kill to players with armor on. I'm never gonna find these guns anyway but my choice is still the LAR.
If only I could find anything other than an SKS or Mosin lmao I've seen five AK's and one M4 since 1.0 came out, and four of those AK's and that one M4 were all being used to kill me :(
I like the VSS and I haven't played dayz in a hot minute, but I doubt this gun will become the "go to" gun simply because finding ammo for it is stupidly hard.
thanks WOBO this is interesting stuff would love to hear you thoughts/ opinions on the way the current armor system the way works in dayZ and you thoughts about the weapon meta and what could be changed....like i said i much prefer the modified armor system that a server called ZERO deer isles uses amongst there other servers more info on that in my 1st comment below.......also why on earth why VSS rounds have less damage drop of at 1000 meters than other caliber lol makes no sense its already a slow round at 1000 meter the round would drop like a shell fired from long range arty guns and has slow down alot thats weird
Even today I was playing with a team mate of mine that's pretty experienced and he still though the lar was better, also, doesent the VSS take the NVG scope?
It all depends on the server. If you are on a server with base building once the pack rats collect all 2 of the weapons that the game will let spawn and stash them in their fort, they will be worthless.
Imo Fal is still better than VSS and AS VAL, maybe they do more damage than Fal but it still requires 2 shots in the chest to kill a player (1 for head for both of these weapons since headshot damage is 2x), bullet is slower, AP ammo is way more harder to find, has more recoil and its ruining carrier plate which potentially could be yours after looting the enemy. The only pros of them are that they are silenced and if enemy is somehow below 96 hp (unless you are in extended fight or in the middle of fight of other players) it oneshots.
The weapons are super rare and the ammo isn’t the easiest to find either. In the real world AP ammo isn’t gonna care about you’re armor, so why should it in DayZ 🤷♂️
idk what all the fuss is about its in the name of the ammo AP=Armor Piercing duh :)the more realistik the game gets the better thats what i personali think good video m8 i likeit a lot :)
Do the 9x39 AP's still perform the same, post 1.12? In reference to destroying plate carriers, not damage as I already know the health damage has been nerfed in 1.12.
I think they should make armor piercing rounds harder to find those rounds should be in a tear 3 or 4 loot location it's annoying to loot for hours get good gear than some guy comes out of no were and kills me with one shot then I ask how then he tells me he has armor piercing rounds
I've been asking for 20rnd mag for over a year. I'm a huge vss fanboy. Got a good video killing like 5 people with it in less then 2 minutes. All geared
Yea it would be meta if anyone could find the damn thing lately it’s impossible to find loot now I go to high tier areas all the time all I see are viegas and sk that it
Remember when Bohemia made complex games. Now they're the laziest game devs on earth. Really tho, all bullets do the same damage and have similar dropoffs. Armor only has 1 class. BRUH.
At least you get to finish I can't even get the blood to flow into that area I have tried viagra and trapping it in the door nothing works, literally nothing works.
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My other AS VAL video: ruclips.net/video/pZFIseqFCHE/видео.html
More Info on the AS VAL: wobo.tools/dayz-weapon-info-tool.php?catid=1&wep=AS_VAL_AP
Wobo see if you shoot 2 guns directly too each other at the same time like if a bullet can stop another bullet when they hit each other and doo the same with a rocket please
Bullet vs bullet, bullet vs rocket, rocket vs rocket. Please test this
C'mon wobo tell me what you think of my video suggestion?
The more realistic the better the game is, is my vote.
@@armanddobson4015 The bullet tracing mod I have is single player only, how would I test this?
Wobo rolls back onto the scene and changes the entire meta of the game every few weeks. That's why I love him.
I'm very very happy to see the VSS finally getting some love, it's just such a cool weapon that is being thrown into the 'trash' cathegory just because it's small mag, but now with this buff it's a monster
To be perfectly honest even with the 10 round mag i'm confident this weapon was far better than anyone gave it credit for - it always has been one of the most judged and underestimated since alpha.....Personally ive always enjoyed the power of pulling "Joker card tactics"
@@theDackjanielz exactly, i once took down a fully geared 3 man squad just by chambering it with AP rounds, it indeed was a very good and VERY underestimated weapon even before this buff, but now it's a destroyer
i'm not happy people are discovering my secret that the VSS is actually a monster
@@jonnycurran6813 It is an unfortunate side effect yeah - in alpha no one touched them with a barge pole so i collected them all the time, sure do miss those days.
@Nipes 101 but it isn't supposed to be used beyond 100 meters, that's the thing, it's a marksman rifle not a sniper rifle even in reality
"Like me, would finish far too quickly" 💀
I deadass don't think I ever clicked a video so fast after waking up.
Really cool video WOBO, I'm glad you're pumping those babies out!
"God I'm tired of the VAL in MW, maybe I should play Tarkov"
"OK, so Nikita buffed 9x39 and now the Val is meta again. Maybe I should pick up DayZ again"
"Bruh"
It isn't like the gun play and performance in all three games is completely different, which makes it completely irrelevant
CoD lazer Tag bullets made the As VaL superior unlike DayZ bullet physics. Can't compare the 2 games.
I'm looking forward to the AS VAL and the 20 rnd mag
The 10 round mag was just a small hindrance to me, the VSS has always been my favorite and people slept on it because of the mag size. Its so damn good in close quarters and sniping medium ranges since the enemy simply can't hear where you're shooting from
Yes I agree if you go on my profile you can see I'm always using the vss. People slept on it heavily
200m + is no noise whatsoever, and it isn't easy to hear under that.
Seen all these other guys and said "Na I'ma wait for wobo to get the juicy facts" and glad I did!
The only reason why I don't use these weapons is due to the subsonic velocity. I tend to get into long range gunfights where an LAR or M4 would be much easier to tag targets.
I’m likely going to use the Val with a Lar combo. At least until someone decides to finally patch a certain exploit on the console versions of the game...dayz. Please finally fix the unmentionable exploits
@@Hadrian9707 carrying 3 guns will kill your stamina and reduce your ability to manage inventory but good luck
@@Hadrian9707 when they add of back you won't be able to do that anymore
Currently running vss and svd banger of a combo.
7N12 BP is becoming meta in another game aswell it seems.
In real life that ammunition is the inferior cheaper version to SP-6
Always loved the little VSS, now it has a twinsy for me to also love! And the AP rds were always OP, just let down by the mag size as you said, so excited to see the meta change
No, the AP rounds should not completely ignore armor. If the regular rounds do 47.5 damage against armored targets (half of unarmored) then the AP rounds should do roughly 75 damage so they're only losing 20% of their damage through armor.
Also, the AP rounds penetration value should be buffed, +10% isn't enough, it should be around +30%, IMO.
P.S. Sorry WOBO, I forgot to say thank you for the helpful video.
Yes, exactly this!!
Spot on this is what i was thinking
the mechanic just does not work like that. The armored vests all have a 50% damage reduction against bullets. And they do that as long as their hitpoints are not depleted. If the hitpoints are not sufficient, the complete damage of the round is applied. The AP rounds seem to bypass this mechanic. So they would need to introduce a new damage function to handle the AP rounds in order to implement this. I mean it's not impossible but currently pretty unlikely.
Love you're videos mate. You go through so much details amazing mate 👍 keep.upmthe good work bud
iv been saying it for ages the only thing ever holding the vss back was 10rd mags now it will have its time so shine
Yes, they should ignore armor because of the steel core penetrator but should have slightly higher dispersion because the steel core isn't perfectly centered from round to round. That's only if their roughly the s as me as a XM855 green tip.
i like this change imo and the VSS/VAL with AP rounds while pumping out insane dmg has a trade off with being poor for sniping and longer ranges meaning it will be a monster in Close to medium range, thats what i feel will balance it out compared to the 308 LAR, boils down to high dmg or having higher velocity on rounds for better ranged combat
Given that they’re “armor piercing,” yes they should ignore armor :) Great vid as usual!
Well "armor piercing" doesn't mean magic bullets. Depending on the bullet and cartridge design it either should have increased manstopping power after penetration of the armor, or lower manstopping power, but certainly no the same man stopping power as if it didn't penetrate any armor.
Thx for the quick walkthrough for this new weapon! :D
Bullet ballistics in real life would like to have a word with you 😁😁 love your content brother!
“we only had this measly 10 round mag that finished to quickly like me” 😂😭love that part
I think the low velocity balances things enough
It certainly makes the LAR better at medium distances compared to the AP round weps. But when it comes to range, there is a gap between Vaiga and LAR that the VSS/VAL fits in nicely.
@@WOBO The Arma devs did a great job of giving you incentives to use in game weapons for the same purpose they were designed irl. That spirit has carried over to Dayz
Hey wobo i love your videos;) keep up the good work buddy;)
look at this science and learning in dayz, maybe the developers should try it
God damn i needed that laugh :D - Maybe if they just generally give a flying about the community would be a start.
remember peeps that the VSS fires what is basically a pistol slug combine that with the AP\SP-6 rounds and the VSS can still to this day punch though alot of modern body armor........however i think the armor system we have in dayZ and i`am gonna say it, it really sucks, the way armor works in dayZ is the armor does not stop the bullet it reduced the amount of damage taken but still allows the bullet though the armor......i played a server called ZERO deer isles, they have a modded armor system....that stops the bullet going though until the vest\helmet breaks...you will still receive shock damage from the blunt from impact that is your body armor soaking up the rounds..
this means if hit in chest with buck shot at point blank range the vest will soak up the shot but be completely ruined and you will get knocked out but you won`t take health damage....unless a second buck shot is applied to ur totally ruined armor.......this means that helmet or vest will protect from a few shots depending on the caliber.......this means also it quite likely you`ll knock out your target during combat which means you need to double tap or take the target captive........this Zero deer isle server with this armor mod did not make combat feel bullet sponge it just adjust he way armor works so it actually protects you until it is ruined
i really think we need an armor system that does not work like we are playing a fallout 4...cos that how armor works in fallout it reduced damage taken but you still take health damage.....i`ve watched alot of ballistic testing and i can tell you now that the game Escape from Tarkov massively exaggerate how much armor can protect a person.... after watching proper non fake ballistic test of certain russian helmets they stand up and protect fairly well until assault rifle cal bier firing hardener steel core AP ammo.... here is my source\link to proper non fake ballistic test of actual Russian helmets used in tarkov and dayZ.... ruclips.net/video/nyKnKbhAyu0/видео.html this channel is called Oxide and this youtuber and the supporting community have spent alot of money together to do these tests as expensive russian gear does not grow on trees and these tests can help game devs make more realistic armor......pls leave a like and sub for the ballistic test vidoes i`ve linked
I knew AP VSS rounds were totally op but I never used them because of low capacity mags xD
Its good on paper but in reality tagets dont stand still. I still would go for .308 armour or no armour.
Although I was mentioning this in previous videos that you ignore the existence of AP ammunition so Im glad you made video about it finally.
Targets don't stand still? There always on exctazy?
Loot Tetris for Xbox and PlayStation would be awesome too. It definitely needs work in its current version.
If I had to choose I'd still pick a FN FAL because it has more constistant ballistics and longer ranges and ammo availbility.
That being said this buff really makes AS VAL/Vintorez great again.
I wish they would give a little buff to pistol rounds and 7.62x39 mm too.
7.62x39 reeally needs to do more damage than 5.45x39 and 5.56x45 like it used to
rn it's just dumb to use it, it's slower, has higher recoil, and does the same damage as these other rounds
@@kafeh3300 Exactly. That's why it should be buffed.
I have been wanting a 20 round 9 by 39 mag for so long it will make the vss worth picking up
Maybe we should have plates like what call of duty Warzone have where you pick up plates and stick it in your plate, carrier or an animation for that that would be pretty cool
Loved the video!!!! ♥
Used to hate the val’s , but now I’m addicted to them
I'd love to see 5.56 AP and I wouldn't mind seeing a vpo .366 shotgun, either the bolt action or the semi automatic with AP rounds. Also with shotguns esp with saiga I find going for legs works super well you almost always get an instant knock out unless it's a modded server. Super nasty with the drum mag.
Hey, love your videos
I like use lar with combat sight as main gun for shooting enemies at close/medium range. Idk but the asval/vss still can be worst compared to the lar because of the bullet speed is so low that make me prefer other weapons
My only gripes with the SVAL is the fire rate and that exclusive attachment for the rail system. The fire rate should be increase to 900RPM as that's what it is for it's IRL counterpart, however I can understand why they didn't due to game balance. And with the rail system, I feel like the other AK variant weapons should be allowed to use such an attachment, it's so cool to be able to use NATO optics on an AK weapon.
Overall, I'm excited to see the weapon in action and I can't wait to see what we can do with mods for it ;)
Yeah, we already have mods to do that in dayZ, I do it all the time in tarkov, just add a mount with a picatinny rail that goes on russian rails, all the aks, SVD and VSS/VAL would be able to be used with every sight/scope
The rail adapter is SVD height.
I think the 20 round mag shouldn't be added at all, as something similar to the ssg and Aug from csgo will happen, where it is already a very strong weapon with it's own ups and downs, but it is only after it is buffed that people will begin using it.
Honestly I think this is all perfectly fine in theory but in my opinion now they just need to increase the range in which you can audibly hear a suppressed weapon because there's just this strange cut off where they stop making sounds that can make it impossible to even know your being shot at sometimes. I don't mind the inability to decipher the direction the fire is coming from immediately but you should always know when your getting shot at especially within relatively close range. Unless I'm entirely mistaken and my ears have deceived me this whole time in which case I'm off to go buy hearing aids.
I can imagine running to VMC and getting sniped by a AP VSS with the night vision scope
I've always loved the vss. But the vsd is still the best all around rifle. Plus big boy rounds lol there simply isn't enough cover
love the videos Wobo! love you more tho ;)
something doesn't add up for me, First off I love that the VSS is finally becoming useful but I think the buff is exaggerated a little bit. Now although the increased damage with armor-piercing rounds does make the gun extremely powerful against armored players, both the VSS and LAR still take 2 body shots to kill which puts them in my mind equal. And with the LAR being one shot without armor, that makes it a clear winner for the better gun
a modded server I play on has disabled AP rounds because they completely nullify the high tier armors there (even 6B43 aka Juggernaut gets ignored)
I do think the AP rounds should ignore the armour, after all they're called armour piercing. However I do think that because they do it so well, that having some form of counter to wouldn't be too bad of an idea if it was implemented well. Adding another form of plate carrier that could reduce it's damage, but don't reduce it by a ridiculous amount. Something around 20% I think would be a good number. After all there needs to be a reason to use the AP rounds. The problem then arises that if another form of plate carrier is introduced into the game to somewhat counter the AP rounds, then that plate carrier would make the other obsolete, and would be OP as all fuck, against non AP munitions such as 5.56, or 7.62x39.
0:00 oh no what happened to NuV D:
Does the 20rd mag really work with the VSS? I saw another video by MARKS and he said it does not work at the moment and at the beginning of your video the VSS has definitely the smaller mag.
It works.
It will work in the next patch, easy fix for the devs.
The lar should have a ridicolouse recoil and the vss/asval almost non just like reallife
What makes you think 9x39 would have no recoil, it is higer caliber than 7.62x39 after all.
@@lukazuza64 by no recoil I meant Less recoil as it has right now. The Caliba is bigger but not the grain I think
Also the 308 (7.62 x 51) should be unhandled at full auto
I dont know I shoold my FAL with same recoil as in the game. I think its ok.
What's the difference between the VSS and SVAL? Is it only the appearance ?
I really would like to see DayZ with the Escape from Tarkov gunhandling. Would feel so much better. I really love DayZ but I just can´t take it anymore to just keep on having weird ass gunhandling when there are better options same for hitting moving targets on crowded servers with mods
2:08 from that point on i just started laughing 🤣 good job new sub
awesome video!
Hey WOBO, could you make a video investigating inventory priority?
I've noticed when doing the automatic magazine reload by hold R, it grabs the first available magazine in my inventory and loads it in, but the empty magazine tends to jump randomly into different inventory spaces, rather than into my plate carrier where I like to store them, could you investigate this pattern further? Or possibly try to figure out how you consistently keep magazines in the correct inventory spaces?
Good idea! Added to the list :)
Honestly if it’s going through plate vest, it should be causing more damage do to blooming and shrapnel :/
The plate carriers are still effective, just not against this beast, so the plate carrier isn't "useless" per se. With that said, the SVAL spawn rates should be SUPER LOW. For the record, as long as we're talking about rendering certain gear useless, a tac helmet is no better than a boonie hat vs. the SVAL.
Finally i couldn't wait for the vss to not suck
Another weapon that, I'll never find in Vanilla.
They are supposed to wipe all characters and servers on Feb 14, so all duped loot will be put back into rotation. Plus the ASVAL is a helicopter drop, so it is supposed to ignore server economy
@@theonethingwealladore See that would work if I could ever find a heli crash anyways lmao
@@XxShadow101xX I got really lucky and found two right outside the airfield walls on the same day
I certainly like it. Whoever is using the VSS/AS VAL gets to ignore armor, and the trade off is that 9x39 is much harder to use at range so the user is a bit limited when it comes to long range fights. I think that's fair. Honestly though, its nice that there's a weapon that is a huge middle finger to anyone wearing armor.
I killed a bunch of guys on OFF and they had 3 Svals. At Staroye, I'm not sure if they duped them. Also 2 LARs. If they did, they suck for that but I'm still keeping the guns
That's a lot of damage!
.308 travels in the air faster, has more weapons that use it, is more common to find and is still a two shot kill to players with armor on. I'm never gonna find these guns anyway but my choice is still the LAR.
If only I could find anything other than an SKS or Mosin lmao
I've seen five AK's and one M4 since 1.0 came out, and four of those AK's and that one M4 were all being used to kill me :(
Yes man. As val is the better lar. Completely silent subsonic. Can take acog. And canted sights. And a higher damage rate over time #op
The vss was always good. Just small mag size and it takes special ammo made it not worth looking out for
How about the coupled VSS mag then? I always find those randomly strewn in mili bases. never the VSS itself though haha
I like the VSS and I haven't played dayz in a hot minute, but I doubt this gun will become the "go to" gun simply because finding ammo for it is stupidly hard.
Eh. I have 3 ammo crates FULL of AP rounds.
Head up to tissy and just rotate loot I find 4 boxes of 9x39 minimum every time
I was hoping you can take the rail and the canted sight off the sval but shit we finally got the goddamn gun and a 20 rnd mag
thanks WOBO this is interesting stuff would love to hear you thoughts/ opinions on the way the current armor system the way works in dayZ and you thoughts about the weapon meta and what could be changed....like i said i much prefer the modified armor system that a server called ZERO deer isles uses amongst there other servers more info on that in my 1st comment below.......also why on earth why VSS rounds have less damage drop of at 1000 meters than other caliber lol makes no sense its already a slow round at 1000 meter the round would drop like a shell fired from long range arty guns and has slow down alot thats weird
Even today I was playing with a team mate of mine that's pretty experienced and he still though the lar was better, also, doesent the VSS take the NVG scope?
What about the WOLF AR15 w/9x39 armor piercing rounds?
It all depends on the server. If you are on a server with base building once the pack rats collect all 2 of the weapons that the game will let spawn and stash them in their fort, they will be worthless.
Imo Fal is still better than VSS and AS VAL, maybe they do more damage than Fal but it still requires 2 shots in the chest to kill a player (1 for head for both of these weapons since headshot damage is 2x), bullet is slower, AP ammo is way more harder to find, has more recoil and its ruining carrier plate which potentially could be yours after looting the enemy. The only pros of them are that they are silenced and if enemy is somehow below 96 hp (unless you are in extended fight or in the middle of fight of other players) it oneshots.
The weapons are super rare and the ammo isn’t the easiest to find either. In the real world AP ammo isn’t gonna care about you’re armor, so why should it in DayZ 🤷♂️
I think ap should have less damage than a reg ammo. Like 70-80 but still ignore armor.
idk what all the fuss is about its in the name of the ammo AP=Armor Piercing duh :)the more realistik the game gets the better thats what i personali think good video m8 i likeit a lot :)
Do the 9x39 AP's still perform the same, post 1.12? In reference to destroying plate carriers, not damage as I already know the health damage has been nerfed in 1.12.
I know because it's a game they have to do it that way but should one bullet really ruin a plate?
Hey Wobo do snipers have glare and hiw far is this glare, if there, is visible?(XIII)
I think they should make armor piercing rounds harder to find those rounds should be in a tear 3 or 4 loot location it's annoying to loot for hours get good gear than some guy comes out of no were and kills me with one shot then I ask how then he tells me he has armor piercing rounds
I've been asking for 20rnd mag for over a year. I'm a huge vss fanboy. Got a good video killing like 5 people with it in less then 2 minutes. All geared
Yea it would be meta if anyone could find the damn thing lately it’s impossible to find loot now I go to high tier areas all the time all I see are viegas and sk that it
So buckshot still has the ability one tap to plate carrier?
How much damage you took from buckshot?
You must be in red health
With plate carrier
Did the fire rate for the asval increase since this video?
LAR still better imo. More common ammo even with armor, both gun still 2 tap anyway
A perfectly fair argument, VSS does rapid fire however - Frankly it just comes down to personal taste really.
Shit, laughed way to hard. Subscribed!
Now all I have to do is find the damn thing
Wobo can you find out why the cars are so laggy
Remember when Bohemia made complex games. Now they're the laziest game devs on earth. Really tho, all bullets do the same damage and have similar dropoffs. Armor only has 1 class. BRUH.
What about vaiga and slugs what dmge does that put out now 🤔
funniest vid yet
E nós mano.
At least you get to finish I can't even get the blood to flow into that area I have tried viagra and trapping it in the door nothing works, literally nothing works.
Do the 20rnd mag fit the VSS?
As val with pvs-4 👌🏼
I cant put the 20 round mag in my vss, is that a bug or something?
If your on experimental then most likely is a big
Does any of this still apply?
The vss and ka74 are the best guns in the game... what has vanilla come to
Need more ap rounds for different guns
Aaaaand how long before nerf now that this video is out?
Has a weapon ever been really nerfed? Except the .22 nerf maybe