It’s mostly for vintage watches Rob and some of those have very little ‘purchase’ left on the knurling section and can be hard to grip. One little trick I used to use in place of this tool was a small piece of soft leather (Chamois) and used it to wind the difficult watches. I hope I’m explaining myself properly.
The idea is good. Looking at it from the view of being one with thumbs that are shot with arthritis and it being challenging & painful to clamp down on the small crowns with your thumb-n-finger - I like that. However, $60 seems to be a bit much.
Hey Rob! Purchased mine for only $30 from online retailer a while back. I use solely for my vintage hand-wind watches with small crowns and a few pieces with “tight” crowns, difficult to wind by hand. Without proper knurling or size, some crowns do require additional pressure from the tool, like you demonstrated. A good tool but wait for a sale.
small crown with little depth with a stiff mainspring can totally wreck your fingertips, but this tool might not work for it depending on the size of the crown. I couldn't get the tool to work properly on any of my manual wind watches, the rubber tip pulls out and offers two sides one for narrow one for wider crowns but neither worked on my crowns without appllying huge amounts of force the get the crown to go inside the narrow rubber tip. The only crown that worked well on was a Sinn EZM1 but that's a screw down crown so pushing it on to turn it just pushed the crown into the threads and screwed it up, not actually winding it. So it's basically totally useless for my watches.
Perhaps Bergeon can make us a tool to read our watches for us. I don’t see the need for something like this, unless you have severe arthritis or something.
This would actually be perfect for my Magrette dual time 18. The winding crown is situated at the 4 o clock position so the case covers a couple millimeters of the crown. It’s actually a pain to wind and lock in with my bear paws. This tool would work well.
i can see this helping with scratching around the crown itself on the case for the real meticulous, and for watch makers but for me, i would try it lol
Maybe I’m different but I actually enjoy the physical aspect of winding my watches. I love and use Bergeron products but IMHO this is a somewhat expensive waste of money. Now, if you are suffering from arthritis this maybe a godsend…
I think it would work better if it had a ratchet mechanism that way you would not need to let go of the barrel to reposition your fingers, and a slightly less stiff rubber so you would not have to push so hard to work with the screw down crowns.
@staszeksowikowski9039 I don't know much about the mechanics of watches, but I know enough to know that there is a ratchet on the winding mechanism. However if the in watch ratchet works well enough why do they need to remove the winder and reposition this winder activating the only main fault of the winder which is to push the crown back into place, surely all they would need to do is twist the winder clockwise and counter clockwise and this winder is perfect for that.
@@simply_psi I don't know, but adding a ratchet to this winder seems irrational to me. I also think this product fails to justify its purpose outside of a few very specific use cases.
@@staszeksowikowski9039 the product is poorly conceived and comes from the stable of 'make it out of premium materials charged a decent of indecent amount of cash for it and there will be plenty of watch collectors out there who will part with their cash for it", stable, however there are, admittedly a small number of watches with poorly designed crowns that are fiddley to wind to put it mildly and this is an elegant solution to those issues, however it has another inherent fault in that it needs to be readily to hand to be useful but it will end up being put in the 'utility' draw and when you come to wear one of the watches with said crown issues rather than spend 30 mins sorting out the winder, you just struggle with winding with your fingers lamenting why you put that winder in such an impractical place, rather than lamenting why you bought the bloody thing in the first place
bergeron makes some nice tools but sometimes 🤷 I don't know. Being from the automotive repair I can understand repetitive motions and maybe the wind would be good if you're doing service repairs on a lot of manual winds.
This one with the rubber grip is much better than the metal claw-type crown winders because it puts less torque on the crown and stem assembly. With either, one has to be very careful to keep the winder in line with the stem because I have over-wound a vintage watch before using one.
It’s mostly for vintage watches Rob and some of those have very little ‘purchase’ left on the knurling section and can be hard to grip. One little trick I used to use in place of this tool was a small piece of soft leather (Chamois) and used it to wind the difficult watches. I hope I’m explaining myself properly.
I think I could do that with a carrot Rob, or a potato even. 😂
Probably helpful for people who might have hand issues and gripping a crown
This tool looks very useful and handy with my small and slippery crown watches. I thought about this type of tools and I finally find it.
The idea is good. Looking at it from the view of being one with thumbs that are shot with arthritis and it being challenging & painful to clamp down on the small crowns with your thumb-n-finger - I like that. However, $60 seems to be a bit much.
Some crowns are quite small, for example in the Longines Master collection. It may help there.
Hey Rob! Purchased mine for only $30 from online retailer a while back. I use solely for my vintage hand-wind watches with small crowns and a few pieces with “tight” crowns, difficult to wind by hand. Without proper knurling or size, some crowns do require additional pressure from the tool, like you demonstrated. A good tool but wait for a sale.
small crown with little depth with a stiff mainspring can totally wreck your fingertips, but this tool might not work for it depending on the size of the crown. I couldn't get the tool to work properly on any of my manual wind watches, the rubber tip pulls out and offers two sides one for narrow one for wider crowns but neither worked on my crowns without appllying huge amounts of force the get the crown to go inside the narrow rubber tip. The only crown that worked well on was a Sinn EZM1 but that's a screw down crown so pushing it on to turn it just pushed the crown into the threads and screwed it up, not actually winding it. So it's basically totally useless for my watches.
I have fat fingers I could see the use for it… especially on my older pieces
Perhaps Bergeon can make us a tool to read our watches for us. I don’t see the need for something like this, unless you have severe arthritis or something.
This would actually be perfect for my Magrette dual time 18. The winding crown is situated at the 4 o clock position so the case covers a couple millimeters of the crown. It’s actually a pain to wind and lock in with my bear paws. This tool would work well.
The package was nice.
i can see this helping with scratching around the crown itself on the case for the real meticulous, and for watch makers but for me, i would try it lol
I thought they were electric. You press a button and it whizzes round. 😂
That's exactly what I thought too.
They do both.
A solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
It would help if you had bad arthritis in your hands? That's the only reason I could think of why you would need a tool like that.
Maybe I’m different but I actually enjoy the physical aspect of winding my watches.
I love and use Bergeron products but IMHO this is a somewhat expensive waste of money.
Now, if you are suffering from arthritis this maybe a godsend…
Very entertaining vid Rob LMAO
Owning a 3861 Speedy I will say I like the idea because there is nothing pleasurable about winding that movement.
If you own a U-Boat diver, you need one of these!
Link?
That Lord Elgin looks nice, gonna make a vid about it someday?
I think it would work better if it had a ratchet mechanism that way you would not need to let go of the barrel to reposition your fingers, and a slightly less stiff rubber so you would not have to push so hard to work with the screw down crowns.
The watch already has a ratchet, though
@staszeksowikowski9039 I don't know much about the mechanics of watches, but I know enough to know that there is a ratchet on the winding mechanism. However if the in watch ratchet works well enough why do they need to remove the winder and reposition this winder activating the only main fault of the winder which is to push the crown back into place, surely all they would need to do is twist the winder clockwise and counter clockwise and this winder is perfect for that.
@@simply_psi I don't know, but adding a ratchet to this winder seems irrational to me. I also think this product fails to justify its purpose outside of a few very specific use cases.
@@staszeksowikowski9039 the product is poorly conceived and comes from the stable of 'make it out of premium materials charged a decent of indecent amount of cash for it and there will be plenty of watch collectors out there who will part with their cash for it", stable, however there are, admittedly a small number of watches with poorly designed crowns that are fiddley to wind to put it mildly and this is an elegant solution to those issues, however it has another inherent fault in that it needs to be readily to hand to be useful but it will end up being put in the 'utility' draw and when you come to wear one of the watches with said crown issues rather than spend 30 mins sorting out the winder, you just struggle with winding with your fingers lamenting why you put that winder in such an impractical place, rather than lamenting why you bought the bloody thing in the first place
I use a power drill.
bergeron makes some nice tools but sometimes 🤷 I don't know. Being from the automotive repair I can understand repetitive motions and maybe the wind would be good if you're doing service repairs on a lot of manual winds.
Hmm, I'll stick with using my fingers. $60 saved.
Carrots are orange win, win .
Next they'll have a tool to put the watch on your wrist 😂
Maybe someone who is arthritic could use it. Dane maybe....lmao
LOL
Unnecessary, but OK then.
But hey if you're going to give it to someone, I'll take it.
Only for pros that take up to many watches
Ideal for people with more money than sense.
Bruh
Pay me $60 to hand wind for you
Can you unwrap watches for me too
@@RandomRobReviews sure... let's say there's a price for everything.
If only it had a ratchet, this is ridiculous
Using a drill seems easier than this
Lol… erm no!
Even $6 is too much for that junk,
They must be on crack.
Its badly designed. Surely a clamp type tool would be much better.
Bergeon does make those. But the risk of scratching/marring the case increases dramatically compared to this one
I like to fondle the crowns on my watches, just saying.
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As for the carrot comment, I would eat the carrot LOL
This one with the rubber grip is much better than the metal claw-type crown winders because it puts less torque on the crown and stem assembly. With either, one has to be very careful to keep the winder in line with the stem because I have over-wound a vintage watch before using one.