Thanks :) , Josh Sawyer/Obsidian did an excellent job of making the classes distinct and yet capable of multiple roles within a party with the right build. I've definitely got a thing for unusual frontline builds.
I rlly Wanna play poe1 again after so many year, and gonna try this build, not going for potd cuz i rlly Wanna get into the story, with all companions. Thx for the video :)
Hi palmeras06, I'd recommend a Paladin or a Priest for the player character check this video out: ruclips.net/video/0qcjf24QiYA/видео.html then hire the Riposte Rogue as soon as you get to an inn for the immediate great mechanics skill etc.
Reposte has been buffed to work off of misses and grazes now too AND Escape gives a +25 to deflect so it can be used to ENTER combat with a reposte rogue.
PIllars of Eternity - The White March - RIPOSTE ROGUE - Character Creation Min-Max Guide The Riposte Rogue is the ultimate troublemaker, curious opponents who dare try to shackle him will find his retort too much to handle. Been ill most this last month sorry about the lack of content. Not quite sure what games I'm going to feature on the channel before Stellaris comes out on May 9th, so if you have any ideas/requests please let me know, thanks - Macsen.
Try it, worst case scenario is you have to retrain don't know if would work well on Path of Dammed on Hard it might, depends on party composition how good in combat you are etc... Obviously riposte won't work as well without high deflection and you'll take more damage especially if you get in trouble but I'm sure this build could be tinkered with a bit.
At some point though Riposte effectively becomes near worthless without enough deflection some other extra damage ability would likely become a better choice.
thats lovely i always wanted a rogue with high resolve for dialogue options...do u have any vids with him in action?also whats your fav party formation?
Hi ang alv I probably did have some vids but my hard drive that might have had them on went bust last month. I've got a riposte rogue on Lev 6 in the game I've been playing recently I'll have to record a bit with him. I would have done a bigger combat example in this vid but over 40 mins is a bit much already. Formation wise it depends on the party I'm using 2-3 frontline 1-2 midfield rest dps backline usually.
Riposte rogue is not viable for a lot of reasons. The first one is that starting deflection stat for a rogue is crap. -15 points than a fighter. The second one is that riposte only trigger 20% of deflected hits. And the last one is that a rogue would be hit very often in POTD because of your poor deflection. The rogue endurance is as poor as his deflection so if you are being hit often (which happen every combat) you are going to die soon, so there is no "window" for triggering it. Riposte should be nice on a fighter class, but sadly they don't have this talent. A rogue in this game is a narrow class. DPS and criticals with low survivability. You can go ranged or melee but in the end, all the good builds are the same in terms of development.
Hi Newindika 84 , well this probably won't surprise you but I think you're wrong. I covered a lot of what you mention in a lot of detail, deflection you can get up to pretty crazy levels I won't re-say how because it's mentioned in the video. If your defection is crazy high you need endurance/health less. The 20% trigger is low granted (I did state riposte is not overpowered it works best with this build but you don't necessarily have to take it, the build works fine without it) but if have 2-3 on average attacking the rogue (this is why increasing engagements is a good idea) the riposte chance hitting at least one opponent becomes much more likely each combat turn* with high defection and by lowering their accuracy. There's a reason why Paradox gave certain classes some unusual abilities/talents, they wanted people to have the possibility to use each class in more than one not always obvious way. They are not always perfectly balanced but you can see their intentions... the rogue isn't as narrow a class as you think imo.
I mean, if you want to make a riposte build that "works" you can. But is a contradiction on itself. Just because riposte is a bit broken at the moment. It only works on misses not on grazes. With the deflection penalty of the rogue expect a lot of grazes but few misses. You are using a large shield for deflection bonus, but after you choosed reckless assault. I can't agree on this. Rogue has enough deflection problems to create another one. Why you did it? Because you know you can't rely on riposte :) So, do your rogue riposte? Yes. The question is: how is this rogue compared to the standard dps one? Is riposte enough nowadays to create a build around it? I think not. I also was wondering how to create a riposte rogue, a tank version of it but sadly as I said this is a narrow class in terms of efficiency. For this class there is no better build than the standard meat grinder rogue simply because it output the bigger DPS you can achieve on this game. Have you played a full campaign with this kind of rogue? I will give it a try but in a different way. I'll choose a wild orlan 10-10-3-17-18-20 with dirty fighting & improved one, blinding and crippling strike and deep wounds that should work also with riposte.
@@newindika849 your argument went from "viability" to "this build is better". I mean he proved you wrong so I guess you had to double down. He mentioned a solution to deflection so why do you persist for it to be troublesome?
UPDATE: Riposte is getting a boost in patch 3.03, 30% of grazes now also trigger it... nice!!!
I love these unusual builds! You've helped me enjoy this game so much more with your great guides . Thanks!
Thanks :) , Josh Sawyer/Obsidian did an excellent job of making the classes distinct and yet capable of multiple roles within a party with the right build. I've definitely got a thing for unusual frontline builds.
I rlly Wanna play poe1 again after so many year, and gonna try this build, not going for potd cuz i rlly Wanna get into the story, with all companions. Thx for the video :)
I haven't played POE in a long time, & I'll start a new game with the Riposte Rogue as my main character. Thanks!
Hi palmeras06, I'd recommend a Paladin or a Priest for the player character check this video out:
ruclips.net/video/0qcjf24QiYA/видео.html
then hire the Riposte Rogue as soon as you get to an inn for the immediate great mechanics skill etc.
Thanks for the tip and video!
Reposte has been buffed to work off of misses and grazes now too AND Escape gives a +25 to deflect so it can be used to ENTER combat with a reposte rogue.
Didn't know that about Escape thanks, Riposte Rogues are better than ever!
PIllars of Eternity - The White March - RIPOSTE ROGUE - Character Creation Min-Max Guide
The Riposte Rogue is the ultimate troublemaker, curious opponents who dare try to shackle him will find his retort too much to handle.
Been ill most this last month sorry about the lack of content. Not quite sure what games I'm going to feature on the channel before Stellaris comes out on May 9th, so if you have any ideas/requests please let me know, thanks - Macsen.
still cant get over the fact that we have the same name, I've always been the only person I know with the name Macsen
Hi Macsen :) I've actually had another Macsen leave a comment before, but yeah there aren't too many of us.
I guess that's a good thing overall
btw could i switch weapon and shield with two weapon style and use him as semi tank semi dd?or would kill the built?
Try it, worst case scenario is you have to retrain don't know if would work well on Path of Dammed on Hard it might, depends on party composition how good in combat you are etc...
Obviously riposte won't work as well without high deflection and you'll take more damage especially if you get in trouble but I'm sure this build could be tinkered with a bit.
At some point though Riposte effectively becomes near worthless without enough deflection some other extra damage ability would likely become a better choice.
+Macsen Lets Plays got yah
thats lovely i always wanted a rogue with high resolve for dialogue options...do u have any vids with him in action?also whats your fav party formation?
Hi ang alv
I probably did have some vids but my hard drive that might have had them on went bust last month. I've got a riposte rogue on Lev 6 in the game I've been playing recently I'll have to record a bit with him. I would have done a bigger combat example in this vid but over 40 mins is a bit much already.
Formation wise it depends on the party I'm using 2-3 frontline 1-2 midfield rest dps backline usually.
Interesting vid btw
thanks :)
Riposte rogue is not viable for a lot of reasons. The first one is that starting deflection stat for a rogue is crap. -15 points than a fighter. The second one is that riposte only trigger 20% of deflected hits. And the last one is that a rogue would be hit very often in POTD because of your poor deflection. The rogue endurance is as poor as his deflection so if you are being hit often (which happen every combat) you are going to die soon, so there is no "window" for triggering it. Riposte should be nice on a fighter class, but sadly they don't have this talent. A rogue in this game is a narrow class. DPS and criticals with low survivability. You can go ranged or melee but in the end, all the good builds are the same in terms of development.
Hi Newindika 84 , well this probably won't surprise you but I think you're wrong. I covered a lot of what you mention in a lot of detail, deflection you can get up to pretty crazy levels I won't re-say how because it's mentioned in the video. If your defection is crazy high you need endurance/health less.
The 20% trigger is low granted (I did state riposte is not overpowered it works best with this build but you don't necessarily have to take it, the build works fine without it) but if have 2-3 on average attacking the rogue (this is why increasing engagements is a good idea) the riposte chance hitting at least one opponent becomes much more likely each combat turn* with high defection and by lowering their accuracy.
There's a reason why Paradox gave certain classes some unusual abilities/talents, they wanted people to have the possibility to use each class in more than one not always obvious way. They are not always perfectly balanced but you can see their intentions... the rogue isn't as narrow a class as you think imo.
I mean, if you want to make a riposte build that "works" you can. But is a contradiction on itself. Just because riposte is a bit broken at the moment. It only works on misses not on grazes. With the deflection penalty of the rogue expect a lot of grazes but few misses. You are using a large shield for deflection bonus, but after you choosed reckless assault. I can't agree on this. Rogue has enough deflection problems to create another one. Why you did it? Because you know you can't rely on riposte :) So, do your rogue riposte? Yes. The question is: how is this rogue compared to the standard dps one? Is riposte enough nowadays to create a build around it? I think not. I also was wondering how to create a riposte rogue, a tank version of it but sadly as I said this is a narrow class in terms of efficiency. For this class there is no better build than the standard meat grinder rogue simply because it output the bigger DPS you can achieve on this game. Have you played a full campaign with this kind of rogue? I will give it a try but in a different way. I'll choose a wild orlan 10-10-3-17-18-20 with dirty fighting & improved one, blinding and crippling strike and deep wounds that should work also with riposte.
@@newindika849 your argument went from "viability" to "this build is better". I mean he proved you wrong so I guess you had to double down. He mentioned a solution to deflection so why do you persist for it to be troublesome?