Spyderco Blue Slysz Bowie 2021 Knife Joy Exclusive Folding Knife - Overview and Thoughts
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Knife Joy website drives me nuts, I wish they would put sold out so you don’t have to open every link.
You can filter for "in stock".
I did manage to snag one, which was unexpected. I see it as sort of a sebenza type piece: high end and will last more or less forever. It's been great to bring with me to work with the pb washers. Holds up well to the dusty environment I'm in, and works well with gloves on. I feel like I paid $100 too much for it, but still cheaper than a plain Jane sebenza or inkosi. :Shrug:
I'm so glad I was able to get one. I absolutely love it. The action broke in stupid buttery smooth. It's the smoothest action out of my spyderco's by a lot. And I have a kapara, Pm2, Domino, spydiechef, drunken, manix 2xl, and smock. The drunken would be the second out of my spidey's. I still kind of wish they would have done this up in a CQI version. Because they've already deviated from the original in so many ways ( blade steel, blade finish, handle finish) If they would have added a lock bar insert and stabilizer I think this would have arguably been the superior one.
I am a Spyderco fan and am really glad I got one of these. It is an awesome knife and I did not have a problem with the price. With that being said, I put some titanium scales on my m390 PM2 and I like it better than the Bowie for less money. It is my go to m390 titanium Spyderco.
I am EDC-ing the Sage 1 in Maxamet… thanks to you brotha! 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
I got the pm2 in maxamet after hearing him go on about it lol
The large sebenza is without a doubt my favorite edc knife. I hate that it is and I’ve tried to dethrone it but it just hasn’t happened. This to me is like a sebenza that’s just a little bit bigger to make harder use easier. It still follows in that super slicey vein that I love about the sebenza but is definitely more fidgetable with that spidey hole and detent😂 I need one lol
I wish I could've gotten one of these! I just got a Spydiechef and now I really want a Slysz Bowie!
Where you located?
@@flabflex I'm in Ohio, in the southwest part of the state. They said they will get more of these in the future, so hopefully I can get one soon!
I think it would be my favorite knife of all time but I’ll never know because I’m blessed to be left handed and the rest of the world is yet to catch up
This knife is so three weeks ago. I’m loving mine so much.
I picked this up when it dropped and definitely like it but the anodization is not what you would expect for a knife of this quality, and PRICE! It is easily scratched and has major discoloration even when cleaned up from all of your hand oils, etc. I may re-anodize it another color since it's a keeper but definitely priced out of hype and not build quality, materials, etc. This is an M390 and Ti handle Spyderco, it should be in the $250 to $300 range at the most but you pay for the hype I guess.
Kind of reminds me of the Giant Mouse Ace Grand.
My brand new Cutlery Shoppe Shaman has tumble finished CTS-XHP and it is spectacular and 210 bux. I have an orange scales thing.
Gonna get one on the upcoming drop
The original is the knife I regret selling most
I spoke with and purchased a Bowie from knife joy at bladeshow 2021 this last weekend. They did say that there will be more of the blue ano M390 eventually, but not for a while. Definitely longer than 6 months!
I love the Slysz bowie. Youre right. You cant reduce a knife to its materials. Many knives are much more than the sum of their parts the Slysz being one very notable example.
But for me $400 is too much to stomach.
I disagree about the titanium framelock not requiring a lock bar insert. At $400 i think its expected and necessary when almost all of the competition has it and for less money.
Thats the only thing keeping me from going goo-goo for the Slysz and the subvert for that matter.
I know i know. Im but one little drop in the bucket of the knife community. But the makers do read these posts and it could make a difference.
Great review as always!
I know the lock bar insert doesn't matter that much, but I feel like that would have been an easy qci that would make it feel more in line with things like the sebenza 31 and xm-18
The Sebenza and the XM-18 were never intended to have inserts when they were originally designed. I've never seen a Sebenza or a XM-18 wear out. The inserts are a gimmick to sell more knives. Does nothing to improve these knives.
I dont do social media. I found out about this knife here, on RUclips. I found one from someone who just wanted his money back. he took it out of the box, and out of the plastic bag, opened it, closed it, and realized he it wasn't for him. he just wanted his money back, so I gladly obliged. I love it, except that damnable relief cut. why does the relief cut extend from the lock bar, into the frame, right under the pocket clip? would have made getting out of my pocket easier. I hemmed and hawed about getting the original, back when it went for $299 on blade hq, then they were sold out, and it was discontinued. I really regretted that.
Still need to get one in hand first, then decide if it's worth it for me.
It’s super easy to remove the blue anodizing on the scales and have a nice monochromatic look close to the original.
That’s what I did.
Photo please I'm interested
Have the original, and modded the access hole within 30 minutes, extending the cut to allow effortless flicking. Looks great, too. Vastly prefer the original over the blotchy blue and satin finish M390. XHP is easy to sharpen and a mirror-edge is easy to achieve. Stone washed blade is reflective and gorgeous and doesn't show scratches. Hopefully Knife Joy will revert to the original for several runs. Cuts like a laser. $400 is very fair -- especially if the Norseman is selling at $900. The Bowie is part of knife-history.
CTS-XHP rusts/stains easily. I like M390 over XHP because of this. I have a Les George VECP and a Todd Davison slip joint that both have XHP. It's a great steel, too.
I've never worn out a properly done titanium liner or frame lock. Inserts are a solution in search of a problem.
Feels like there's more people complaining about the people who are complaining about the price, than actual people complaining about the price lmao
I wonder if there will be aftermarket scales like CF (G10to dye) micarta or original TI in different colors to mod to liking? Just like other spydercos or does it have to be blue cuz Im not a fan of the blue but whatever's
Great video. I agree about the price. Even 400 isn’t that bad compared to other production ti frame locks ( like a Chaves or an Olamic) people are mad because it’s 400 for a spyderco. These same people complain about the Drunken too prolly.
Dude such a solid review. Appreciate the honesty and transparency. Love that you down play the hype. I just managed to pick one up should be here Friday. I’m really excited.
Huge Spyderco fan boy really looking forward to getting it in the pocket.
Love the knife......absolutely hated the blue ano (always looked dull and splotchy, had to have windex applied to get to any sort of normal looking)....sent it into KnifeModders for lightning ano, and man oh man....is she beautiful!!!!!
A little late to the show, but really enjoyed you video!
Sort of new to the knife world and have actually never heard of this specific spyderco , but I like the blue.
Love that anodized blue look. You should check out the Spyderco Spydiechef with anodized scales. Same blue scales on another awesome blade.
@@orangerider2827 Well, that sucks man. I have two and don't have that problem with either of them. Use one to prep food every night. I think it's fine specimen. When I suggested Don check out the Spydiechef, I was more referring to the fact that Knifejoy (I think) also did a blue anodized version of the chef. However, since you brought up specifics, the LC200N steel on the chef is pretty comparable to s30v in terms of durability and edge retention and has unparalleled rust and corrosion resistance, plus a pretty sweet titanium scale. But, to each their own.
@@orangerider2827 Fair enough. I only handled one after I bought one, but was immediately enamored. It is the cqi version, so that ceramic detent ball makes it officially rust proof.
@@orangerider2827 As much as I hate to say it, it seems like you might be unlucky. Who knows, maybe I'm just lucky. There is a brief conversation about the cqi chef on either Spyderco forums or bladeforum, but really that's all I can find. The only "complaint" I would say I have with the chef is the rattling of the lanyard tube when you shake the blade a bit, but I'm just nitpicking.
@@orangerider2827 Well shoot! In that case, I'm sorry to hear about the bad luck.
This is an interesting knife and itbis a great thing they brought it back. I only wish Spyderco could find a way of 3D shaping a handle without it adding $100 to the cost of the knife (I mean I understand that that process is expensive, it is a genuine wish). I would love to have one, but I would not pay $400 for one (comparing it to something like Schempp Bowie or even Caribbean - I just don’t see the added value quite as high as the cost is. I am aware that Spyderco prices their knives on cost and are not trying to milk their customers. Just here the cost to value is not quite as great as with some other of their knives.
Best looking Spyderco, cause it doesn't look like a Spyderco.
It's a great knife and I wouldn't judge people for paying the $400. For that price I would expect and desire weight reduction machining in the scales. It would be that much better. To be fair about reducing knife prices to their materials goes both ways though, because very often people will justify high costs citing materials used (especially reviewers).
Speaking of bowies, I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on an Eklipse Bowie for my first Hinderer, good idea?
I did 😉
@@metal_complex you lead I follow, the Metal General pointing out righteous blades w/impunity
I love mine!
I’m still a bit confused as to why they changed the steel/color. The original was such a sleek, classic look...it just “wasn’t broke”. I’m sure Sal has some reasoning on the Spyderco forums that I missed. But the monochromatic look with amazingly finished XHP was a major part of the original’s appeal, imo.
I sanded my knife joy Slysz Bowie and it looks just like the first one just not stone washed. I can't send picture here. I will if you like.
I mean not to get too technical when you take into account the ~11% inflation over the last 5 years and rising labor costs that brings the total from $350 up to ~$390 adding on the cost of m390 over xhp and the labor involved with anodizing the scales $400 is pretty comparable to the original knife. It is a bit expensive in my opinion but that’s just my thoughts on the argument where people say they are overcharging for it and how it is a crime to add on $50 to the price.
Great take on this!
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The blue ano scratches when you look at it.
Heck yeah
I love Spyderco knives, but $400 will net me a few beautiful TwoSun's that appeal so much more to me.
i need to see that june 4th spyderco from the livestream
Today at 2PM
@@metal_complex looking forward to the spicy meatball 🤤 😂
Is it the native chief drop from blade hq?
@@kmason3199 nope
Is it a dealer exclusive? Is it the CruCarta? I wanna keep guessing but you are on central standard time correct? So a little over half an hour till show time
I sold my Norseman and bought two of these versions. This with the Techno 2, and the Swayback…I am done.
How can I contact you to see if you would like to do a video with any of my knives?
I'm going to keep my spydiechef. I'm a little disappointed on how the scales on this exclusive wear.
Spyderco gods please please please bring back the Slysz Bowie! And bring sexy back with Magnacut steel please 😵💫😱👌🏽🥳🔪
I like it but not a huge fan of the scale color, just my opinion though, we'll see what the next runs bring.
Same issue as before. Why not just get the Sebenza with a little more money? If you already have a Seb or don’t like Seb, then go for it.
Well, all the Slysz Bowies are sold, and they go for way more on the secondary now. Everyone who bought one now has a knife worth substantially more than the Seb, and anyone who didn't has no choice but to pay to much. This comment has no meaning now.
I hope the next drop comes out at $405, just to troll everyone.
$405.99
@@ihave7sacks let's not get crazy.
14:05 anybody know what blade metal complex is dissing? i’m honestly kinda curious now haha, don’t really pay attention to new releases
The Barnes
I love mine!! I never thought I’d be able to own one so I was so ecstatic they released this. Otherwise, I’d never be able to own this grail of mine!
Somebody made a comment about this being a chance to get a $1000 knife for $400. It was meant to be funny but had a whole of truth in it.
@@n8omg agreed! The secondary prices on the original are ridiculous.
Congrats man! 😎🤘🏻
@@doctoruttley thank you so much!! I appreciate it man!
2 more Button Locks & a new Fixed Blade coming from Civivi!
Nitro-V, 14c28n, and D2.
Civivi is about to elevate their game even more looks like!
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Para 2 hands down
@@orangerider2827 it’s a full flat ground slicing machine great for average EDC tasks.... I wouldn’t say it’s a hard use knife at all, some people are gonna love it for that, others will hate it, all depends on you’re personal needs and uses
And now 450.! Do I wanna spend 450. I don't know. I wanna experience it, but I don't sell my knives. So...
My wife isn’t currently talking to me. Her last message was “I see you bought yourself a treat” that was yesterday. Should’ve gotten that DivonStout 2
Hey buddy, the problem with overpriced objects is that they propiciate a rise of prices. Just as the secondary unreasonable market propiciated a rise on this one. Besides getting close to the actual price of a Hinderer or Sebenza...no way it's close to that quality of knife.👍
The only way to combat this is to simply not buy it. To me, this is roughly a $350 knife. I'm just not willing to invest any more energy into the drama.
@@metal_complex I see it more like trying to educate and create consciousness about this interconnection between raise in prices and this voracity in consumism which is detrimental to all of us.🙂👍
Fortunately, this issue often resolves itself. Time and trends will act as an automatic counterbalance 😉
@@metal_complex yeah buddy it is like that, but then there's the next one and the next one and so on and we never learn. The more we learn, the more we can control the market as consumers.😏
So price wise, this isn't that far off from a Chris reeve or a Hinderer...........baring that in mind.......still think its "worth" the 400 dollar price tag??? Not being a jackass I'm genuinely curious.
It should be like the chef, techno, and others in the same category. 230-280$ would be reasonable.
@@bcarben93 That's kind of how I feel. I mean I've never handled the knife so I only have so much room to talk, but taking into account materials, who's making it, and where its made.......I just dont see how you can get much past 300
It's not a $400 knife. $300-$350 would have been much more reasonable IMO, but as you can see, not everyone agrees lol
@@metal_complex Ya I could probably stomach 300 but that'd be it for me lol
I don’t get the drama about price, availability, flipping, etc. None of those things are necessarily bad. It’s just marketing, market forces, etc. Exclusivity can be really cool for a lot of people therefore prices, flipping, hype, etc. No big deal really.
Man that blue is sexy compared to the original
$450... is ridiculous 🥴 🔫 but I want one
What I don’t t get is, people will bitch about spending $400 on a spyderco, but think nothing of spending $400 on a Reate or a TRM Ti Shadow.
Not the same people? 🤷🏼♂️
I personally think this is the best looking knife Spyderco has ever made (maybe second to the Nirvana), but for a knife that isn't US Made, the price is outrageous. WE Knife Co. could probably make this knife for half the price. Honestly, I'd rather spend the few extra bucks and just get a Sebenza.
IDK..I seem to own more Spyderco's than any other knife. Knife joy is one of my favorite retailors... Because they allow you to purchase with Sezzle. What is Sezzle?
I buy a $400 knife..I get to make 4 equal payments. It's like layaway.. More important to me... My wife doesn't freak out that I spent $100... She knows I like knives.
$400 all at once.. She flips her shit.
Knife joys prices are dumb as well!
400$ was too much for that knife in the first place then the idiots on secondary trying to get quadruple that. Get a chef, techno, etc for 230 or save a little over 400 for a much better knife.
@@orangerider2827 that sucks, glad you found something better. I might get the techno at some point but really I don't spend over 200 on spydercos and benchmades. There's better stuff out there.
@@orangerider2827 you just have to call or email them and let them know you need omega springs and they will send them to you free of charge. Same with screws
$300 for a knife with washers? Shit........
I spydie flick my techno 2 and my Chef with my right hand middle finger 480 times a day.
Nick Shibowie
Why would you want the scales more rounded? Keep it original even if it’s reboot. Every damn car on the road is a round piece of shit, I miss the days of being different, wether it be body lines on a vehicle or knife scales.
Side note: IMO this run looks better. Blue is awesome how many damn Spydie’s are carbon fiber, gray titanium, black G10….. a lot… boring. I’m a SpyderCo guy, that’s all I own ( 14 most of which are discontinued,exclusive, flashback etc) but damn I love when they make different ( their regular stuff is great) knives than the other guys, but silts special when they step out of their own normal designs/patterns.
I don’t need 20 PM2’s, 10 Delica’s, and 15 Manix 2’s because they changed the color of the damn scales….
Not lefty friendly or functional at all. Thanks Spyderco for saving this lefty a boat load of money.
What is this overpriced knife on hq?
He's probably talking about the James brand Barnes.
@@jonathanwatson268 correct
@@metal_complex understandable lol
Thanks for asking the question I was thinking of asking...gotta go see this gem...
Slysz bowie or not....All spydercos in general are overpriced and I've grown to dislike them....Doubt I'll ever buy another spyderco