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  • @JohnBartholomewChess
    @JohnBartholomewChess  Год назад +68

    59:21 Gonna put this position on my tombstone

  • @instacat1112
    @instacat1112 Год назад +50

    I'm around 1800 FIDE. I greatly enjoy your blitz and bullet, but these classical matches are incredibly educational. Thanks, Mr. John!

  • @elbirdo_insoko
    @elbirdo_insoko Год назад +14

    John, I found the analysis completely fascinating as we saw how "bad" some of your moves were from an engine point of view, and especially how well you took the feedback on board. I'm sure I'm not alone in dreading the analysis phase where I'm forced to confront all of my errors and start to get down on myself for "obvious" silly mistakes. It really helps to see how you acknowledge your limitations and take positive lessons from every analysis. Thanks once again for the amazing content! ~a guy

  • @DaSoulSlasher
    @DaSoulSlasher Год назад +47

    I don’t play chess but I like watching your videos. Something therapeutic about it

    • @BrokenG-String
      @BrokenG-String Год назад +14

      That radio station voice 😆

    • @JayceFisher
      @JayceFisher Год назад +3

      Me 2

    • @nivagnoswal
      @nivagnoswal Год назад +4

      I do play chess, but I often have this on in the background...I like the ambience it creates and i find it very relaxing...

  • @goldenlion3184
    @goldenlion3184 Год назад +3

    It's great to see you work through an incredibly complicated position like this. It helps to see how you approach the thought process!

  • @jasit
    @jasit Год назад +2

    I'm sooooo delighted to see John making new standard games videos. He explains his thoughts during the game so clearly. Fantastic and very instructive content. I hope that new videos will be posted regularly :) Thank you mr. Bartholomew!

  • @nickd5422
    @nickd5422 Год назад +4

    These kinds of tense, complicated, closed positions always get me. I get overwhelmed calculating all the variations, and inevitably make a mistake. It's good to see how John navigates them.

  • @dragonoid296
    @dragonoid296 Год назад +12

    The engine analysis was insane. Probably one of the most interesting games on the channel

  • @emregeylani
    @emregeylani Год назад +3

    Great game & analysis John, this was one of your best content. Kudos to CarriCarri as well, he played an amazing game. As a ~2K lichess player, I generally don't want to trade my Q with two Rs. It feels like position will get sharp too quickly.

  • @sailorjerry3720
    @sailorjerry3720 Год назад +1

    It feels like you've posted more this January than you have all 2022 and it's great!
    Thanks, John!

  • @Xmask19
    @Xmask19 Год назад +52

    petition for john to show us cool mating patterns for 15 minutes

    • @firebug3256
      @firebug3256 Год назад +3

      I could watch John show us cool mating patterns for as long as he was willing to. That position with the stacked tripled e pawns for both white and black was also nuts.

  • @TamNguyen-zy2dq
    @TamNguyen-zy2dq Год назад +12

    REALLY good standard game, John… prob the best one yet. real high level, tense chess!

  • @DeathEaterLink
    @DeathEaterLink Год назад +5

    Crazy that such an accurate game to my eye (barring the Qf1 move ofc) is such a blunderfest to the deific stockfish

  • @carlofierens3773
    @carlofierens3773 Год назад +12

    Thank you for your videos, John. They mean the world to us! Best chess content on RUclips, period.

  • @jonshive5482
    @jonshive5482 Год назад +6

    Wow. What a nail-biter! All kindsa possibilities in a mostly closed position. Don't think my nerves would last long in something like this. The draw was well-earned (and most likely welcomed) by both players. Thanks for instructive entertainment John.

  • @nomvanhoutte1998
    @nomvanhoutte1998 Год назад +5

    So glad you're posting these longer games, this one was super interesting. You're analysis is without par. Thanks for all you do.

  • @equal___
    @equal___ Год назад +8

    loved the long form analysis of the end game, really starting to see how coordinating pieces even if you don''t have a clear plan can come in handy

  • @brookelovett2847
    @brookelovett2847 Год назад +4

    That was quite the wild west shootout! Losing that F pawn was devastating. Thanks for all the juicy content John

  • @ericsmtbadventures9
    @ericsmtbadventures9 Год назад +3

    I love your rapid and classical time control games with heavy commentary, thanks John!

  • @nimbatchelor8684
    @nimbatchelor8684 Год назад +4

    Wow, what a game! Thanks for the recent RUclips content. Very educational-as always.

  • @ariterjanian5000
    @ariterjanian5000 Год назад +3

    Fantastic game and analysis! Instructive and complex

  • @rleon01
    @rleon01 Год назад +7

    Awesome that you have been consistently videos again. Really enjoying it. Thanks 👍🏽

  • @marlowe5511
    @marlowe5511 Год назад +7

    great stuff john, always really informative watching you play a skilled, high rated opponent

  • @xhulioxhelilai9346
    @xhulioxhelilai9346 Год назад +2

    Great video John. You presented perfectly your thought process. Very helpful and educative. Nice job!

  • @andrewmckay2153
    @andrewmckay2153 Год назад +30

    So glad your back regularly John! Loving the new videos. Keep it up man!

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 Год назад +4

      His back does what regularly?

  • @williammartinjoel2295
    @williammartinjoel2295 Год назад +2

    I love these Standard videos!! Keep them coming, I learn a lot from watching these!

  • @andreastornes25
    @andreastornes25 Год назад +4

    Fantastic game and analysis! Watched from beginning to end and the hour flew by! Great to have you active on YT again! I would also have gone for the two rooks, looked good :) I was thinking rook f to c1 in order to have rab1 available to support b pawn push~ GG and well played by both :)

  • @jonahklees8637
    @jonahklees8637 Год назад +4

    Top notch video John! My thoughts on Q trade were that you’d have to eventually give up that b pawn to get the knight in the game (so technically even material) and if he can stay solid with his pieces by his king with his bishop protecting c8 his queen and extra pawn on the queen side seemed unpleasant. That said I’m sure you could still draw it. Keep up the great work!

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Год назад +5

      Thanks for your comment and feedback, Jonah! Hope you've been doing well lately - appreciate you watching.

  • @jhamberg1043
    @jhamberg1043 Год назад +2

    Great game and analysis! These slower time controls with tough pairing is really a treat to watch. I would have not gone for 2 rooks vs. queen, it seemed a bit difficult to coordinate. But I guess lower rated players usually don't take that road :) Great that you tube content is back, long time fan starting from those ICC games and three videos per day.

  • @83gh
    @83gh Год назад +1

    Thank you for all your content, John!
    Interestingly, 10. c5 fails to a surprising intermezzo 10... Nxf4! threatening a fork on e2, and white is forced to recapture 11. gxf4 if they don't want to lose either the b pawn (11. Qxf4 Qxb2) or the c pawn (11. cxb6 Nxe2+ 12. Kh1 Nxc2 13. bxa7 Nd3 14. axb8=Q Rxb8)

  • @gyrex
    @gyrex Год назад +2

    Thanks for another amazing video John. These longer format games are so valuable.

  • @fuadyhidayat
    @fuadyhidayat Год назад +3

    Always grateful to learn something from your explanations, John. Keep it up!

  • @ChessAndKungFu
    @ChessAndKungFu Год назад +2

    Really helpful to hear your thought process, especially here, since I play these openings for white and for black. Thank you!

  • @hansgruber9093
    @hansgruber9093 Год назад

    Wow what a great game John, fascinating to see how the pair of rooks stacks up against the queen, and then later the 3 pieces. Great tactics, great battle at the end. Please keep up these longer time frames & especially against similarly high rated opponents, it's some of the best chess content around. Thanks!

  • @jakedesmond5107
    @jakedesmond5107 Год назад +2

    Always a lift in my day when I see a standard video!! Thanks John :)

  • @islamadam8502
    @islamadam8502 Год назад +3

    It's quite nice to see you again on a regular basis 👍 Nice sweater by the way 😎

  • @luciano3141618
    @luciano3141618 Год назад +2

    Another amazing educational game, commentary and analysis.

  • @stegozavr171
    @stegozavr171 Год назад +2

    Really interesting game, it's really instructive to hear your explanations and thought process during it)

  • @GoudaLips
    @GoudaLips Год назад +1

    Great to see you posting new content to RUclips again!

  • @Behzood1
    @Behzood1 Год назад +2

    Love these, John! Thank you!

  • @sirnacane9929
    @sirnacane9929 Месяц назад +1

    I've been watching your standard videos for years now and the past few weeks I've been watching the most recent ones and I gotta say, the 15+15 time control has made for absolutely fascinating games. I watched #300 Ruy Lopez Rumble the other night and it's my favorite so far. It slows the pace down just enough for a pinch of extra quality over the 15+2/15+10/etc. other time controls on this playlist. If you ever start making these again I would definitely vote for this pace.
    As a much much lower rated player I've noticed that you really try to push some ideas, not necessarily to their limit, but much further than I do myself. I was shouting for a Rfd1 early on simply because it seemed that was the only piece not doing anything and development is drilled into my head but you kept doing other things and they usually end up being correct. I saw Qf1+ right before you pushed your f-pawn at the end and was heartbroken, but shows I've learned something after watching so many of these since I think that's the first move I've ever noticed myself that you missed, which is saying something considering how many of these I've watched (and how much easier it is to notice things when you're not actually the one playing).

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  4 дня назад

      I'm late to reply, but my sincere thanks for your wonderful comments! I'd love to find the time for more 15+15 games going forward, so stay tuned for more of those longer games. I agree with you that the quality difference is notable compared to a lesser increment.
      Sounds like you're treating these games correctly for educational purposes, by the way: comparing your own thought process to what's happening in the games and what I'm describing; trying to make this more of an "active learning" experience rather than a "passive" one. Cheers, and I hope you have a great holiday season!

  • @stanleym796
    @stanleym796 Год назад

    Wow! This was a crazy game. To answer your question in the video, I definitely would not have traded the queen for the 2 rooks but the appeal is definitely there with the knight covering the f7 square. I think you mentioned earlier in the game that you were the one with the positive tension and I think that makes sense as to why you should play some sort of rook move like Rfd1. Great content as always John!!! Keep these coming!!!

  • @byronstone386
    @byronstone386 Год назад +4

    To answer your question around 56:27
    I was thinking of closing the position with c5, then maybe capturing on c6 and rerouting the a3 Knight
    Personally I would've been skeptical going for the imbalance of 2 rooks for the queen unless I was sure it led to mate or something

  • @zawzawz88
    @zawzawz88 Год назад

    VERY instructive game! I particularly liked the middle game when you were talking at length about some positional ideas, like comparing the quality of pieces for both sides and how to think about the pawn tension. Highly valuable insights into the thought process of a master in an unclear position.

  • @Nick_Bc
    @Nick_Bc Год назад +4

    Thanks for uploading these regularly, i was starting to miss them :)

    • @jonshive5482
      @jonshive5482 Год назад

      I'd long since given up hope. What an unexpected pleasure this is.

  • @walterlotte4215
    @walterlotte4215 Год назад

    This one was very enjoyable to watch. The complexity of the game and the depth of the thought processes were astounding.

  • @ethan3038
    @ethan3038 Год назад +1

    To answer your question at 57:00 John, I evaluated taking both rooks as better for black just because I couldn’t figure out how to deal with this knight on a3 which seemed pretty permanently bad

  • @francescovanspronsen404
    @francescovanspronsen404 Год назад +6

    Those tripled pawns made me laugh so hard

  • @thedarksoulsveteran
    @thedarksoulsveteran Год назад +2

    Thanks for another quality & instructive video JB

  • @sinan4833
    @sinan4833 Год назад +2

    Great, thank you John!

  • @jasonmckinney8166
    @jasonmckinney8166 Год назад +5

    Wow what a game!! SO instructive :)

  • @brant25
    @brant25 Год назад

    It's been 4 or 5 years that I do the treadmill at the gym watching these standard videos. I've watched them all at least twice. Nice to have some new ones😅 You are aewsome John!
    Btw, my online rating always goes up when I'm hitting the gym more often

  • @fascinatingfactsabout
    @fascinatingfactsabout Год назад +1

    I really like this longer games format, made me want to play more classical on Lichess :D
    I saw b4 in a game btw and struggled to explain to myself why you weren't worried about it, decided I'm not smart enough to see how tactically you had it covered or something. Glad to see the engine says I was right :P

  • @bgtopteam
    @bgtopteam Год назад +1

    You are the best, John. Keep up these it is way better against high rated oppnents

  • @johncook8900
    @johncook8900 Год назад +3

    Not qualified to comment on the queen vs the 2 rooks here, but this was SO FUN to watch! Thanks for talking through it.

  • @JesusGreenBL
    @JesusGreenBL 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great example of how complicating the position can be useful especially when you're down, because it got so complicated towards the end that you both made mistakes. One of my favourite games I've watched on this channel.

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you - glad you enjoyed it and found it instructive!

  • @heavyhands1383
    @heavyhands1383 Год назад +1

    Hell yes. Keep em coming!

  • @TheN00bPolice
    @TheN00bPolice Год назад +2

    I didn’t realise you were uploading more often, need to get that notification bell going!

  • @brandonpeterson6306
    @brandonpeterson6306 Год назад

    This was one of your most interesting games. Lots of fun and wacky stuff. Thanks for the videos!

  • @johnstevenson9956
    @johnstevenson9956 Год назад +5

    You're light years ahead of me and I've learned so much from you, but I never would have traded that Queen off because that Bishop to F8 just threw cold water on the Rook.

  • @westofwahpeton4692
    @westofwahpeton4692 Год назад +3

    Wow great game, fun to see one with no early simplification.

  • @zekeslavens
    @zekeslavens Год назад

    This - this is the reason we love John.

  • @cjtakoz
    @cjtakoz Год назад

    I struggle in super closed, sharp positions so I found this video especially interesting. Thanks John

  • @antonrandahl1174
    @antonrandahl1174 Год назад

    Great stuff as always John! My intuition said not to go for the two tooks for the queen but then again my intuition said fxe in that previous game so I thaught you knew best here as well. My style would have been c5 (also even before b5) there but my slow style has often got me in positions where eventually I do not know what to do anymore.

  • @fredkaboom
    @fredkaboom Год назад

    Wow, what a game! So sharp that both sides had to use almost all of their time. Too bad about losing the f-pawn, but also shows how universal it is to make a move and immediately go "oh no!"

  • @stephenl7048
    @stephenl7048 Год назад

    What an interesting game, and so well explained. I was thinking of 13b4 to gain space, as if Qxb4 then 14Rb1 picks up the b pawn. If 13...a6 you can guard the b4 pawn and line the R against the Q with Rb1, and strengthen the pawn advancing to b5 at some stage. I think your opponent's long think at move 17 was over the idea 17...dxc4. After 18d5, which you well discussed, he has the move Nxe5 with Nf3+ to follow with a discovery on the white queen. If here 19fxe5 Bxe5 20dxe6 Bxc3 21Bxb6 Bb2 it looks like a roughly equal mess, but 19Bxb6 Nf3+ 20Rxf3 Bxc3 21Rfxc3 refutes the whole line. He had also to calculate (in this line) 20Qxe5 Qxe3+ 21Kh1 Bxd5, and be sure that it was winning, all of which is why I think he "went into the tank", and finally played the better rac8.

  • @goldcat3688
    @goldcat3688 Год назад +1

    Hey John, great video as usual! Thanks for all the content lately ;) also I do have a weird request, I commented on one of your videos a while back (standard #103) and asked for a book you mentioned in the video. I come back every once in a while and check (pun intended) for an answer, would definitely appreciate it if you find time to go back to the video and help me out ;) love you John!

  • @hellomynameisaustinw
    @hellomynameisaustinw Год назад +1

    Thanks john that was really interesting

  • @davidmbonu4718
    @davidmbonu4718 Год назад

    Incredibly interesting game. I will say I did not agree with the Queen for 2 rooks. In my head I just didn't see it the same way. The way I looked at the position, blacks rooks were quite dormant and doing very little in cramped space while your queen was synchronizing a lot of the harmony of the white position. Because of this the trade struck me as wrong, and I didn't see the rooks being that dangerous as there wasn't much room for infiltration. That's my take purely on the Queen exchange. During the vid I was quite sure the engine would disagree it was better for white, however you clearly proved your point by creating havoc for black to deal with. Awesome game! - NM David Mbonu

  • @samwade4456
    @samwade4456 Год назад

    Great vid. Love the standard chess series

  • @snared_
    @snared_ Год назад

    Anyone else watch this with engine and look directly at john to try to figure out whether or not he is seeing the evaluation? I know that's not what is happening since he is a master, but watching the game in this way is very entertaining on a human level. Always watching these vids with the engine and skipping around is the way to consume chess content best! Cheers all!

  • @pat_attack
    @pat_attack Год назад +2

    Great game

  • @robdubent
    @robdubent Год назад +2

    I immediately didn’t like the Q trade for the rooks. I liked Rb1 to just keep building tension! If you invert the board and look from your opponent’s pov (I do that often, even otb in tournaments I will get up and stand behind my opponent on occasion quitely to see) I’m sure thinks it’s quite intimidating! I think he was relieved after the trade. But I’m not quite an IM and wasn’t under time pressure 😊

  • @Alabastrova
    @Alabastrova Год назад +2

    Best series!

  • @willsutton3184
    @willsutton3184 Год назад +1

    Wow fun game to watch, tons of interesting positions.. unfortunate the clock came into play otherwise it would have been fun to see some imbalance technique.. personally I like the queen over two rooks since it seems like a trickier piece to have.

  • @stevevogt1328
    @stevevogt1328 Год назад

    Man i would've collapsed in that middle game lol. So much tension, awesome game!

  • @coreydanni4485
    @coreydanni4485 Год назад

    Thank you for the videos. I missed the standard time formats.

  • @Koerq
    @Koerq Год назад

    Fascinating game. Thx for the content.

  • @Vulturesss314
    @Vulturesss314 Год назад +1

    Excellent game!

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory3659 Год назад +1

    Almost John's immortal game!

  • @danielmoore1077
    @danielmoore1077 Год назад

    Loving the videos John!

  • @zwishking6032
    @zwishking6032 Год назад

    54:00 - I'm proud to have come up with b4 on my own :) I thought it was a nice way to build space without wasting time.

  • @michaelf8221
    @michaelf8221 Год назад +1

    I wouldn't have traded the queen for two rooks because your king is honestly a little too unsafe and the position is a little too open for me to trust it. Reminds me of two games: Carlsen - Nepo WCC game 6, and the online banter blitz where Dubov and Nepo are doing hand and brain. In the second one, Nepo is like "don't you like winning material?" to Dubov, who replies, "but you're down a queen!"

  • @statma4274
    @statma4274 Год назад

    This was awesome John. I agreed with your decision to play c x d5 and play two rooks against the queen. But I’m merely 1750 rapid on lichess so what do I know. Keep up the great work

  • @faznaz7455
    @faznaz7455 Год назад +1

    I personally dislike the Queen for 2 rooks decision. With more time black may have figured out a concrete plan to exploit white’s lack of coordination which is the key issue here. For example, the knight stranded on a3 does not leave a good impression which struggles to find useful squares. In the meantime black is quick to coordinate and launch an assault on the White pieces. However with less time, this option is certainly plausible to me. Also in making such a decision, the context of my opponent and tournament also matters.

  • @TimeisaSquigglyLine
    @TimeisaSquigglyLine Год назад

    Hindsight is 20/20, but I think there is a way to rule out the option of trading queen for rooks: The knight on a3 is badly placed and should be improved before making the game open and unbalanced.
    During the game I thought the current position was pretty confusing, so I would have maybe also gone for the trade of queen for rooks just to clarify things.
    Cool game!

  • @nocurve2329
    @nocurve2329 Год назад +1

    Good game. I think anyone would have gone for trading the q for 2 r given the time situation.

  • @skaarphy5797
    @skaarphy5797 Год назад +2

    Great video. I would hope that John would play 2000+ players a bit more often. I have to say I don't find it very instructive or interesting to see him mopping the floor with a 1200 player. There just isn't much to say. Some comments about opening choices, maybe a comment or two about strategic choices, then typically followed by a blunder and game over. Here on the other hand, so rich, and so fascinating to follow his thoughts and weigh them against your own ...

    • @jonshive5482
      @jonshive5482 Год назад

      Same here. Nothing like seeing evenly matched quality players going at it toe-to-toe.

    • @mikaelplaysguitar
      @mikaelplaysguitar Год назад +1

      Have you gone through all 298 standard videos yet? It's a goldmine and sounds like the exact thing you're looking for.

    • @jonshive5482
      @jonshive5482 Год назад

      @@mikaelplaysguitar Pretty much yeah. Don't bother with under-1800 opponents though; don't consider them to be proper contests.

  • @KF1
    @KF1 Год назад

    Great game, though vid was hard to watch. I noticed a lot of interruption ads in this one compared to the usual pre and post ads. Will make sure to watch on a device with adblock for next time so I can follow without interruption

  • @zwishking6032
    @zwishking6032 Год назад

    the vids keep coming! I am pleased.

  • @mattprout8872
    @mattprout8872 Год назад

    Very interesting game. Kh4 is such a finesse move!

  • @feelgoodfashion
    @feelgoodfashion Год назад

    I really like this guy, that was entertaining, well, I am ELO 1100, so it was over my head, but he talks clearly and intelligently.

  • @jakuva5722
    @jakuva5722 Год назад +1

    Super complicated position which could be analyzed for years. I learned a lot in the analysis to.

    • @JohnBartholomewChess
      @JohnBartholomewChess  Год назад +1

      Yes! As humans we can only hope to scratch the surface in these insanely complex positions :)

  • @firebug3256
    @firebug3256 Год назад

    Incredible game!

  • @TeeGar
    @TeeGar Год назад

    White's objective is to form the en potence at once and afterward to establish the grand left oblique, while the minor crochet covers the right wing against the adverse major front echelon. The minor left oblique refused is inferior to all strategic fronts directed either by the right or by the left or by the right refused..

  • @nevanthywolf
    @nevanthywolf Год назад

    That was a cool ending

  • @walterbrownstone8017
    @walterbrownstone8017 Год назад

    Bold queen sac plan.

  • @jacobtarallo7079
    @jacobtarallo7079 Год назад

    Really interesting game! I thought 13. Rd1 was a good way to keep the coordination and tension. Overprotect d4 while not committing to anything crazy.

  • @colinpaton3304
    @colinpaton3304 Год назад

    Spectacular game!

  • @John-g6x1h
    @John-g6x1h 10 месяцев назад +1

    Playing 7. NA3 I thought, I'm going to need something stronger than coffee to get this. In fact, there were precious few moves throughout the game that I might have predicted.