Hi Carl thanks for your video fitted mine yesterday and followed your instructions/video as you said very easy and so much better than factory standard. Keep up the good work. Thanks
What a wonderful video Carl ...irrespective of the skill needed i think you have highlighted such an important issue that BMW might consider the wisdom of the existing set up. Well done you deserve real praise for the effort . Thank you
Thank you for this video! I had just seen the other videos on this topic and I agree with you, the factory solution is confusing or even dangerous. I'm thinking about buying a used GS and many offers have exactly this problem. I'm glad I saw your video and recognized this problem. My first step would be to retrofit this solution. Thank you!
Hallo Joachim, good evening. glad you enjoyed the episode about the Weiser Indicator kits, they certainly improve visibility on the road. Good luck searching for your new / used GS, they are amazingly motorbikes. Regards Carl
Great video, I ordered and installed the S version on my 2022 GS. I didn’t want to re-enable the centre light as Australia has similar rules to Germany (can’t have three tail lights close together). Love the product and I already had people asking how did I do that…
Hello Australia 🙋🏻♂️, glad to hear you have installed the kit, they do make quite a difference and thank you for sharing, I wasn’t aware you also had the 3 light rule as well as us in Europe , which is a silly rule as cars seem to get more rear lights every year. Best wishes Carl
The big improvement on the rear is in bright sunlight, its so much easier to see the indicator in these conditions. But then again at night its also super clear what's happening. Good luck with your choice... Regards Carl
Thanks for your clear and explicit explanation Carl. On another of your videos I commented how I dislike the positioning of the GS AUX lights to the point where I’m thinking of removing them. I try not to night ride, but of course I do like the idea of extra visibility in the day. Looking at the new Weiser module for the front indicators, it looks like it is a deactivation of the yellow indicator running light. It doesn’t change it to white as a running light - is that correct?
Hi Glen, there are two different products, the plug & play version is called "Wizard Modules", if you install these on the front of your 2021 onwards GS, they will turn OFF the amber / yellow running light and just leave you with indicators. This is the cheapest solution for turning off the horrible amber running lights. BUT.... What I use is called "Extreme EVO", these are a set of physical replacement indicators (you can buy a kit of all 4 or you can buy just the front kit) . Once they are fitted on the front you then have a bright White DRL as a running light along with a normal indicator function. To be honest, since i installed these i no longer turn on the standard AUX lights... I probably could remove them. Which sounds exactly like what you are trying to do.. If you have a look at the video I uploaded yesterday ( EP:29 2 year review at 23:06 ) you will see briefly the Extreme EVO front kit installed and I show the white DRL's working. They look brilliant Watch episode 13 (at the end) as i show you how to get a discount code from Weiser. Hope this helps, let me know what you decide to do, best wishes , Carl
Great reply. - thanks Carl. If only Weiser could make a plug n play wizard module that turns the original OEM indicators into white DRL too. That would be a cost effective, quick and super easy. 👍
I’m curious if Weiser is going to produce something similar for the 1300GS, where BMW in all their wisdom decided to remove the breaking light all together.
Hi, there is a new version that ensures rear hazard function retains rear light activation. Please send the Weiser team an email and they can confirm which model that is and ensure you receive the latest version. Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Wow right on point. I just went at the dealership the other day here in Romania and they said they cannot change the light from the software. Here we are not allowed to have the front end lights permanently turned on. And I haven’t noticed right away. I was just wondering if there is any kind of simple solution for this to be changed. I will definitely order these adapters in a few days. Thank you so much for the video. Ride safe ✌️
Hi Mihail, good afternoon - Thank-you. Well now you have a simple easy solution. The installation guide will go up tomorrow at 5.00pm I'm almost finished editing. It will be a step by step guide how to install them, but they are easy to do. Greetings to Romania Best wishes Carl
If only that was true !!! Have you had the recall check done for the driveshaft? BMW have replaced lots of them under the recall for free. Just contact your local dealership and give them your chassis number and they will arrange for the recall to be done. Carl
@@justthewayitis I read this online. Translated from German BMW MOTORCYCLE SERVICE INFORMATION INFO337390 MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE CHANGE R 1200 / 1250 GS (K50) R 1200/1250 GS ADVENTURE (K51) R 1200 / 1250 RT (K52) R 1200/1250 R (K53) R 1200 / 1250 RS (K54) 10.2023 FACTS A changed maintenance plan has been in effect for all K5x models since October 2023. For the first time, it includes maintenance positions for the cardan shaft. CF NOTE The validity of the new maintenance plan is not limited to vehicles that were affected by service campaign 0033130000, but applies to all K5x models - even retroactively. If the validity is retroactive (model year 2023 and older), communication will be sent to customers. This is subject to different requirements depending on the market and may therefore be described in a separate service information. For all vehicles from model year 2024, the maintenance plan change is already part of the operating instructions, so it is not communicated separately. All vehicles with model year 2023 and older are marked with this service information. NEW MAINTENANCE CONTENT • Mandatory: Replace the cardan shaft every 60,000 km of mileage of the cardan shaft - the mileage must be checked! o Mileage of the cardan shaft: if the shaft of the vehicle has already been replaced once at 30,000 km (vehicle mileage) (as can be seen, for example, from the service history in AIR), then a replacement as part of maintenance is only necessary at 90,000 km (vehicle mileage). . o This maintenance position is free for all customers, regardless of the age and mileage of the vehicle or the customer's service history. Billing is carried out using the finding number 9033009900. (The finding number 87331000000 originally stated in AIR does not work as intended and will be changed to the new number in AIR with release 12/23). • Voluntary (offer to the customer as part of the service acceptance): Check the cardan shaft using the ISTA-guided test method and grease the splines every 20,000 km o This maintenance measure is carried out at the customer's expense (not included in central service inclusive packages). o If a replacement becomes necessary due to the inspection of the cardan shaft (test result It. ISTA), this can be billed with the corresponding normal findings regardless of age and mileage (no billing for service action 0033130000!). o If a replacement becomes necessary due to the inspection of the cardan shaft (test result It. ISTA), this can be billed with the corresponding normal findings regardless of age and mileage (no billing for service action 0033130000!). CF NOTE For vehicles for which service action 0033130000 has not yet been completed, this must be carried out first. All conditions for maintenance described above apply after the service action has been carried out. FREQUENTLY QUESTIONS To support your customer communication, please use the help listed below. If you have any further questions, please contact your responsible market manager. What changes does the maintenance plan for the R 1200/1250 models (K5x) have and since when are they valid? BMW Motorrad has decided to adjust the maintenance schedule for the above-mentioned models in the interest of customer satisfaction over the life of the vehicle. The following content has been newly added: - Replace the cardan shaft every 60,000 km (mileage of the cardan shaft, not the vehicle). This exchange takes place over the entire lifespan of the vehicle at BMW Motorrad’s expense. - Maintenance recommendation: check the cardan shaft every 20,000 km (tester-guided test method) and re-grease the splines. This recommendation is not a mandatory content of the maintenance plan and is only carried out at the customer's request and expense. The changed maintenance plan has been valid since the beginning of October 2023, and for vehicles with model year 2024 even since the start of production in August 2023. Which vehicles are affected by the change? The changed maintenance plan applies to all R 1200 / 1250 models (K5x) since the start of production (also retroactively). Why is the cardan shaft no longer maintenance-free? During ongoing field observations, BMW Motorrad has discovered that the cardan shaft of the R 1200 / 1250 models (K5x) occasionally suffers damage that impairs the function of the drive. In individual cases, propulsion can be lost. The cases we know of show an increase with higher mileage, and there is also a connection with the technical design of the drive train (including driving position) and the segment-specific usage behavior. These complaints occur to a greater extent with the R 1200/1250 GS models and government vehicles in the series than with the road models. Against this background, a service campaign was decided on for these models in 2022, as part of which the cardan shaft would be replaced at 60,000 km and at low temperatures. After more frequent mileage, a specially developed test method is used to check for previous damage to the universal joints. In the road-oriented models of the R 1200 / 1250 family, cardan damage only occurs extremely rarely. The more moderate chassis geometry (lower articulation angle of the cardan shaft in the swingarm) as well as the usage profile without any terrain component ensure a significantly lower load level on the component. Nevertheless, BMW Motorrad has decided to adapt the maintenance schedule for all models in the interest of customer satisfaction over the service life and as a preventive quality measure. What costs will affected customers incur? The mileage-related replacement of the cardan shaft is free of charge for customers over the entire life of the vehicle, even if the replacement limit has been reached several times and regardless of the vehicle's age. The recommended (voluntary) inspection every 20,000 km increases the workload as part of the inspection by 9 AW. Why is the exchange mandatory and the verification voluntary? In view of the higher risk of damage as the duration increases, BMW Motorrad ensures that customer satisfaction is the focus over the entire lifespan of the vehicle by offering preventive, free replacement of the cardan shaft at regular intervals, even for older vehicles and frequent drivers. Checking and re-greasing at intervals is at the customer's discretion in order to take into account the different operating conditions of the vehicles and the personal priorities of the driver. Why is the exchange carried out at the expense of BMW Motorrad, but the inspection is subject to a charge to the Customers? Since BMW Motorrad is changing the maintenance plan retroactively, it would not be customer-oriented to subsequently impose increased maintenance costs for standard content on affected owners of an R 1200/R1250. BMW Motorrad will therefore cover the costs of replacing the cardan shaft for maintenance reasons. With the voluntary inspection every 20,000 km, it is the customer's decision whether to have this carried out or not. It is therefore his decision whether he wants to bear the associated costs or not. Will the customer suffer any disadvantages if he foregoes the voluntary, paid inspection? No, this does not result in any disadvantages for the customer. A rejection of the maintenance recommendation is not documented in the service history. How will affected customers find out about the changed maintenance plan? Depending on the country, affected customers with vehicles up to model year 2023 will either be given an insert for the operating instructions during their next visit to the workshop or sent directly with an information letter. From model year 2024, the maintenance plan is already included in the operating instructions; affected customers will no longer be informed separately. Will there also be maintenance plan content for the cardan shaft for other series with cardan drive in the future? For new series there may be maintenance plan content for the cardan shaft (e.g. for the R 1300 GS). There are no changes to the maintenance plans for existing series (K series, R nineT models or R 18 models). (On the R 18 models, re-greasing the splines with spray wax as part of every maintenance visit has been mandatory since their market launch). Why do the maintenance schedule contents of the R 1300 GS differ from those of the previous model? The specifications for replacement and maintenance intervals depend on the technical design of the component and its use in the respective vehicle. Why isn't replacing the cardan shaft on the R 1300 GS free of charge for the customer? BMW Motorrad will cover the costs of replacing the cardan on the K5x series, as the maintenance plan change is made retroactively for the vast majority of customers, i.e. the customers Purchase did not have to assume that these inspection costs would be incurred. This is not the case with the R 1300 GS, here is the wait AFFECTED VEHICLES A list of the affected vehicle identification numbers is made available to the affected markets on a daily basis in the TCM (Technical Campaign Management). Affected BMW motorcycle Partners will receive a list of their vehicle identification numbers in the known local systems as soon as the promotion has been approved by the respective market. Before processing the technical action, it must be checked in AIR or S-Gate whether the vehicle is actually affected by this action. Not all vehicles in a model series are always affected by an action. CONTACT Dorit Mangold, EX-VA-2 Phone: +49 89 382 33664 E-Mail: info.campaign@bmw-motorrad.com
Amazing!!! I am going to ask my local dealership but it reads like we all get a free driveshaft replacement and you are absolutely right 👍 Thank you so very much for sharing 🙋🏻♂️👏🙏 Carl
Hi TallyHo, i would like to ask you something privately, can you send me an email please, and I will message you. contactcarltoday@gmail.com Thank you , carl
Looks like a simple and effective solution to a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place. I must admit that I haven't so far had any problems with other traffic mistaking my indicators though I am aware of how they work and am a little concerned about how they are understood by other road users. Installing the full set of five units is certainly a consideration for my 2023 GSA 1250. I wonder if the incoming GS 1300 will have a similar lighting set up?. Great content in your film clips, keep it up.
Hi Neville, yes it’s certainly an easy installation and makes a big improvement over stock. Their have been several reported accidents with the stock lights being the cause but I decided not to focus on that because I don’t have access to the facts. Weiser developed these while working with several UK BMW dealership who will be stocking and installing them for their customers who are already not happy. The installation guide is almost ready I hope to have it up tomorrow at 5.00pm Best wishes Carl
Yes, sadly the new GS is even worse, I’m told they have now completely removed the rear lamp assembly which if true is very disappointing We have to wait for the official launch. Carl
Another quality and informative video.That looks a good addition and something I'm going to add to my Christmas list. I already purchased the brake light module after viewing your channel. Can i purchase the indicator modules separately, Carl? Cheers.
Hi Carl, this is nice and I like the plug and play function with the original plugs. I have built exactly the same function myself, using a cheap timer module. The front lights I diabled easily just by coding. I am exited to hear what your TUEV said about it. Did you also talk with them about the center taillight being turned on all the time ?
They also said, that if i hadn't highlighted the changes they probably wouldn't have noticed. They had to read the large manual of regulations to check..... LOL But i was grateful of their time and feedback
Hi Carl, Last year I bought the Extreme Evo full kit. There was no solution for the tail light at the time. Since then, Weiser has introduced two solutions for the tail light: the Wizard center module (only available when you buy the complete rear set?) and the Ext-Run-on module. The Wizard center module is plug-and-play, the Ext-Run-on module is not. Besides plug and play which is so much easier, are there any other (functional) differences between the Wizard center module and the Ext-Run-on module? Kind regards, Alex
Hi Alex, No , no difference The EXT was a great idea but the feedback I and others gave them was that it needs to be completely plug and play and simpler to install… hence a new version which is. The new plug and play version will replace the EXT. Functional it’s the same. Weiser-Tech had a problem finding a supplier of the socket but now they have a solution which is why they have been able to move ahead with Wizard modules which was the original plan. If you have purchased a full EVO Extreme kit you have two options 😉 Send them an email and they will sell you the new plug and play version by its self. ( it will be available on the website soon) If you have already purchased the original EXT version they will replace that with a plug and play version if you wish. Just send Mark at Weiser-Tech an email and he will sort it out for you. They very friendly and helpful. My preferred setup is EVO Extreme plus plug and play tail light module Hope that all makes sense Greetings Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks again Carl! I bought the Ext-Run-on module last June as an extra addition to the full Extreme Evo kit I bought and installed 6 months prior. But I have not yet installed the Ext-Run-on module. So I just sent Debbie and Mark an email asking them if is possible tot return it and have it replaced by the the plug and play Wizard center module. I completely agree with you: I have previously experienced that they are very friendly and helpful!
@justthewayitis Thank you, very clear video. The front panel removal on the 1250 GSA is quite a bit more complex and a separate video showing this would be a great help. But a fantastic solution to a problem which should not have been created.
Hi David, if I had a GSA would make a video. A few subscribers have already installed them on the GSA and have mentioned the extra work needed. Have a great weekend Carl
Carl another amazing video! If we put aside the price and installation duration , why just not simply get the EVO option? Aside of course that in the EVO there is no centre light turn on option? What’s your opinion on this?
Yes of course My preferred set up is EVO Extreme full kit front and rear PLUS the Run-on module which you can order separately Just make sure on your order you ask for the Plug & Play Version of the Run-on Weiser will send you the correct one this way Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl again for your valuable insight, as I kind of like the current lights I went with the wizard option and then will see, thanks again
Hello Mila, Watch Episode 13 on my channel, at the end you will find a step by step of how to get your discount code. Easy and simple to do Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis this is great news! However, I can't find the product on their page. FYI/ICYMI - I think also you meant to put a link here in the description "Go here to visit the Weiser Technik product page:" but there is no link. If you have the part number or proper name it might be helpful. I'll ask Weiser support too, but in case you are quicker :) Thanks for all the help!
This the link www.weisertechnik.co.uk/product/weiser-wizards-bmw-multifunction-indicators-re-sequencing-modules-r1250-gs-a-2021-rear-module-only/ This reactivates the centre tail running light. Carl
I'm considering an R1300GS but one thing I don't like about it is BMW has eliminated the rear center light completely. The bike seems excellent otherwise but this was a stupid decision. Maybe there's an opportunity for Weiser to produce a center light plus modules.
Hi , Is it possible to have the rear flashing lights with a single function as before, while having the rear lights activated thanks to your module which allows it ?
Hi, with the Wizard Modules the only option is as shown in the video. Basically, while indicating all other functions are turned off ( brake if applicable and side light)
Ask Weiser to send you the plug and play version It’s much easier to install Just mention this in your order or give them a call. Speak to Mark the boss He we ensure you get the plug and play version Carl
Germany being Germany, I assume the tail light reactivation module is illegal, can't imagine having three tail lights checks out with the local authorities. So when the hazards are on, are there no tail lights active? Seems a bit unsafe to me. Good luck explaining that to your insurance company when you get rear ended at night.
Correct, 3 tail lights not permissible, that is an individual choice to activate it or not. There’s a new product out next month that addresses the lighting conditions when hazards are activated. So when hazards are active the tail and brake lights are again visible.
Rear is fantastic. Front is a missed chance by my opinion: should have been a module that disables the running lights on both sides when indicating, turning back running lights on when done (Similar to what the rear side does on indicating only then both sides turn off)
Hi, Yes that was tested during the development, but Weiser decided that ( and i agree ) there should be no Amber running lights on the front of motorbikes because they are dangerous. Lots of testing was done and i think eventual they will be removed from all motorbikes. Some countries already ban them. Regards Carl
I'm just realizing the high price of 230€, and sending it into the EU with all the % taxes and import duties that go over this price will make this a staggering 350€ for just the rear set. My god.... just modules not even new lights 😢 this is over the top
I do understand your comment, sadly with Brexit we are often hit with a import duty. Weiser-Tech lowered the EU price in relation to GBP which is nice as when you add VAT it’s good value, and lower than a UK price, but due to Brexit some countries add an additional import duty tax on top, which is not nice. 😞
Hi yes correct, the 2020 model does not have multifunction indicators , but you can fit the EVO Extreme kit which is what I have done and prefer. See episode 13 Carl
@@justthewayitis R1250GS Adventure. Had to take off a load more parts than on your GS based guide. I'll send you a video if you want to see the carnage...
Hi Carl thanks for your video fitted mine yesterday and followed your instructions/video as you said very easy and so much better than factory standard. Keep up the good work. Thanks
Thank you for your feedback 🙏 and I’m pleased to hear the video helped you. They do look great 👍 best wishes Carl
As usual Karl, straight to the point and crystal clear. Cheers 🥂
Thank-you...
Another great video. Thank you!
I’m actually liking this solution much more than the whole light replacement.
Hello Michiel, thank you 🙏
Yes the solution is simple and effective and for many owners it’s a great choice.
Have a great weekend 🙋🏻♂️
Regards Carl
What a wonderful video Carl ...irrespective of the skill needed i think you have highlighted such an important issue that BMW might consider the wisdom of the existing set up. Well done you deserve real praise for the effort . Thank you
Hello Roddy, thank you 🙏 for your kind words
Much appreciated, 🙋🏻♂️ Carl
Very interesting. My fellow riders always say that is hard to see the blinking if they are riding behind me.
The Weiser Technik modules do make a big difference and are highly recommended. Carl
Another top piece of advice and guidance.. clear and professional 👍
Hi Simon, thank you 🙏
Kind regards Carl
Thank you for this video!
I had just seen the other videos on this topic and I agree with you, the factory solution is confusing or even dangerous. I'm thinking about buying a used GS and many offers have exactly this problem. I'm glad I saw your video and recognized this problem. My first step would be to retrofit this solution.
Thank you!
Hallo Joachim, good evening.
glad you enjoyed the episode about the Weiser Indicator kits, they certainly improve visibility on the road.
Good luck searching for your new / used GS, they are amazingly motorbikes.
Regards Carl
Opinions are going to vary of course, but I think this is Weiser's best product yet. Thanks for another high quality video
Hi Doc, yes it’s a good one and simple to install 👍
Carl, One year after i bought the GSA1250, I will finally get the LED adaptive Headlight. Tomorrow I will pick it up! Finally!
Hello Carlos, that’s great news 👍 your going to like it very much , it is much better than the standard one.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thank you Carl.
👍
Great video, I ordered and installed the S version on my 2022 GS. I didn’t want to re-enable the centre light as Australia has similar rules to Germany (can’t have three tail lights close together). Love the product and I already had people asking how did I do that…
Hello Australia 🙋🏻♂️, glad to hear you have installed the kit, they do make quite a difference and thank you for sharing, I wasn’t aware you also had the 3 light rule as well as us in Europe , which is a silly rule as cars seem to get more rear lights every year.
Best wishes Carl
Great solution. Pre ordered the front module. Still deciding if the rear risk is worth the outlay for me. Rear looks much clearer though..
The big improvement on the rear is in bright sunlight, its so much easier to see the indicator in these conditions. But then again at night its also super clear what's happening. Good luck with your choice...
Regards Carl
Thanks for your clear and explicit explanation Carl. On another of your videos I commented how I dislike the positioning of the GS AUX lights to the point where I’m thinking of removing them. I try not to night ride, but of course I do like the idea of extra visibility in the day. Looking at the new Weiser module for the front indicators, it looks like it is a deactivation of the yellow indicator running light. It doesn’t change it to white as a running light - is that correct?
Hi Glen, there are two different products, the plug & play version is called "Wizard Modules", if you install these on the front of your 2021 onwards GS, they will turn OFF the amber / yellow running light and just leave you with indicators. This is the cheapest solution for turning off the horrible amber running lights. BUT....
What I use is called "Extreme EVO", these are a set of physical replacement indicators (you can buy a kit of all 4 or you can buy just the front kit) . Once they are fitted on the front you then have a bright White DRL as a running light along with a normal indicator function. To be honest, since i installed these i no longer turn on the standard AUX lights... I probably could remove them. Which sounds exactly like what you are trying to do..
If you have a look at the video I uploaded yesterday ( EP:29 2 year review at 23:06 ) you will see briefly the Extreme EVO front kit installed and I show the white DRL's working. They look brilliant
Watch episode 13 (at the end) as i show you how to get a discount code from Weiser.
Hope this helps, let me know what you decide to do, best wishes , Carl
Great reply. - thanks Carl. If only Weiser could make a plug n play wizard module that turns the original OEM indicators into white DRL too. That would be a cost effective, quick and super easy. 👍
The LED’s that bmw use are single colour, so it’s not possible. The only way is to fit new indicators from weiser.
Great stuff
Thank you 👍
I’m curious if Weiser is going to produce something similar for the 1300GS, where BMW in all their wisdom decided to remove the breaking light all together.
Hi Michiel, yes they are. I have now seen and tested 3 different solutions for the new R1300GS, the first video should be available very soon Carl
Very nice Carl. Just to be sure. When you use your hazard lights (without the extra rearlight module) you don't have rearlights at all?
Hi, there is a new version that ensures rear hazard function retains rear light activation. Please send the Weiser team an email and they can confirm which model that is and ensure you receive the latest version.
Carl 🙋🏻♂️
Wow right on point. I just went at the dealership the other day here in Romania and they said they cannot change the light from the software. Here we are not allowed to have the front end lights permanently turned on. And I haven’t noticed right away. I was just wondering if there is any kind of simple solution for this to be changed. I will definitely order these adapters in a few days. Thank you so much for the video. Ride safe ✌️
Hi Mihail, good afternoon - Thank-you. Well now you have a simple easy solution. The installation guide will go up tomorrow at 5.00pm I'm almost finished editing. It will be a step by step guide how to install them, but they are easy to do.
Greetings to Romania
Best wishes Carl
Carl is it true that you get a free shaft replacement on the 1250 GS at 50000kms?
If only that was true !!!
Have you had the recall check done for the driveshaft?
BMW have replaced lots of them under the recall for free.
Just contact your local dealership and give them your chassis number and they will arrange for the recall to be done.
Carl
@@justthewayitis I read this online. Translated from German
BMW MOTORCYCLE
SERVICE INFORMATION
INFO337390
MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE CHANGE
R 1200 / 1250 GS (K50)
R 1200/1250 GS ADVENTURE (K51)
R 1200 / 1250 RT (K52)
R 1200/1250 R (K53)
R 1200 / 1250 RS (K54)
10.2023
FACTS
A changed maintenance plan has been in effect for all K5x models since October 2023. For the first time, it includes maintenance positions for the cardan shaft.
CF NOTE
The validity of the new maintenance plan is not limited to vehicles that were affected by service campaign 0033130000, but applies to all K5x models - even retroactively. If the validity is retroactive (model year 2023 and older), communication will be sent to customers. This is subject to different requirements depending on the market and may therefore be described in a separate service information.
For all vehicles from model year 2024, the maintenance plan change is already part of the operating instructions, so it is not communicated separately.
All vehicles with model year 2023 and older are marked with this service information.
NEW MAINTENANCE CONTENT
• Mandatory: Replace the cardan shaft every 60,000 km of mileage of the cardan shaft - the mileage must be checked!
o Mileage of the cardan shaft: if the shaft of the vehicle has already been replaced once at 30,000 km (vehicle mileage) (as can be seen, for example, from the service history in AIR), then a replacement as part of maintenance is only necessary at 90,000 km (vehicle mileage). .
o This maintenance position is free for all customers, regardless of the age and mileage of the vehicle or the customer's service history.
Billing is carried out using the finding number 9033009900. (The finding number 87331000000 originally stated in AIR does not work as intended and will be changed to the new number in AIR with release 12/23).
• Voluntary (offer to the customer as part of the service acceptance): Check the cardan shaft using the ISTA-guided test method and grease the splines every 20,000 km
o This maintenance measure is carried out at the customer's expense (not included in central service inclusive packages).
o If a replacement becomes necessary due to the inspection of the cardan shaft (test result It. ISTA), this can be billed
with the corresponding normal findings regardless of age and mileage (no billing for service action 0033130000!).
o If a replacement becomes necessary due to the inspection of the cardan shaft (test result It. ISTA), this can be billed
with the corresponding normal findings regardless of age and mileage (no billing for service action 0033130000!).
CF NOTE
For vehicles for which service action 0033130000 has not yet been completed, this must be carried out first. All conditions for maintenance described above apply after the service action has been carried out.
FREQUENTLY QUESTIONS
To support your customer communication, please use the help listed below. If you have any further questions, please contact your responsible market manager.
What changes does the maintenance plan for the R 1200/1250 models (K5x) have and since when are they valid?
BMW Motorrad has decided to adjust the maintenance schedule for the above-mentioned models in the interest of customer satisfaction over the life of the vehicle. The following content has been newly added:
- Replace the cardan shaft every 60,000 km (mileage of the cardan shaft, not the vehicle). This exchange takes place over the entire lifespan of the vehicle at BMW Motorrad’s expense.
- Maintenance recommendation: check the cardan shaft every 20,000 km (tester-guided test method) and re-grease the splines. This recommendation is not a mandatory content of the maintenance plan and is only carried out at the customer's request and expense.
The changed maintenance plan has been valid since the beginning of October 2023, and for vehicles with model year 2024 even since the start of production in August 2023.
Which vehicles are affected by the change?
The changed maintenance plan applies to all R 1200 / 1250 models (K5x) since the start of production (also retroactively).
Why is the cardan shaft no longer maintenance-free?
During ongoing field observations, BMW Motorrad has discovered that the cardan shaft of the R 1200 / 1250 models (K5x) occasionally suffers damage that impairs the function of the drive.
In individual cases, propulsion can be lost. The cases we know of show an increase with higher mileage, and there is also a connection with the technical design of the drive train (including driving position) and the segment-specific usage behavior.
These complaints occur to a greater extent with the R 1200/1250 GS models and government vehicles in the series than with the road models. Against this background, a service campaign was decided on for these models in 2022, as part of which the cardan shaft would be replaced at 60,000 km and at low temperatures.
After more frequent mileage, a specially developed test method is used to check for previous damage to the universal joints.
In the road-oriented models of the R 1200 / 1250 family, cardan damage only occurs extremely rarely.
The more moderate chassis geometry (lower articulation angle of the cardan shaft in the swingarm) as well as the usage profile without any terrain component ensure a significantly lower load level on the component.
Nevertheless, BMW Motorrad has decided to adapt the maintenance schedule for all models in the interest of customer satisfaction over the service life and as a preventive quality measure.
What costs will affected customers incur?
The mileage-related replacement of the cardan shaft is free of charge for customers over the entire life of the vehicle, even if the replacement limit has been reached several times and regardless of the vehicle's age.
The recommended (voluntary) inspection every 20,000 km increases the workload as part of the inspection by 9 AW.
Why is the exchange mandatory and the verification voluntary?
In view of the higher risk of damage as the duration increases, BMW Motorrad ensures that customer satisfaction is the focus over the entire lifespan of the vehicle by offering preventive, free replacement of the cardan shaft at regular intervals, even for older vehicles and frequent drivers. Checking and re-greasing at intervals is at the customer's discretion in order to take into account the different operating conditions of the vehicles and the personal priorities of the driver.
Why is the exchange carried out at the expense of BMW Motorrad, but the inspection is subject to a charge to the Customers?
Since BMW Motorrad is changing the maintenance plan retroactively, it would not be customer-oriented to subsequently impose increased maintenance costs for standard content on affected owners of an R 1200/R1250. BMW Motorrad will therefore cover the costs of replacing the cardan shaft for maintenance reasons. With the voluntary inspection every 20,000 km, it is the customer's decision whether to have this carried out or not. It is therefore his decision whether he wants to bear the associated costs or not.
Will the customer suffer any disadvantages if he foregoes the voluntary, paid inspection?
No, this does not result in any disadvantages for the customer. A rejection of the maintenance recommendation is not documented in the service history.
How will affected customers find out about the changed maintenance plan?
Depending on the country, affected customers with vehicles up to model year 2023 will either be given an insert for the operating instructions during their next visit to the workshop or sent directly with an information letter.
From model year 2024, the maintenance plan is already included in the operating instructions; affected customers will no longer be informed separately.
Will there also be maintenance plan content for the cardan shaft for other series with cardan drive in the future? For new series there may be maintenance plan content for the cardan shaft (e.g. for the R 1300 GS).
There are no changes to the maintenance plans for existing series (K series, R nineT models or R 18 models). (On the R 18 models, re-greasing the splines with spray wax as part of every maintenance visit has been mandatory since their market launch).
Why do the maintenance schedule contents of the R 1300 GS differ from those of the previous model?
The specifications for replacement and maintenance intervals depend on the technical design of the component and its use in the respective vehicle.
Why isn't replacing the cardan shaft on the R 1300 GS free of charge for the customer?
BMW Motorrad will cover the costs of replacing the cardan on the K5x series, as the maintenance plan change is made retroactively for the vast majority of customers, i.e. the customers Purchase did not have to assume that these inspection costs would be incurred. This is not the case with the R 1300 GS, here is the wait
AFFECTED VEHICLES
A list of the affected vehicle identification numbers is made available to the affected markets on a daily basis in the TCM (Technical Campaign Management). Affected BMW motorcycle Partners will receive a list of their vehicle identification numbers in the known local systems as soon as the promotion has been approved by the respective market.
Before processing the technical action, it must be checked in AIR or S-Gate whether the vehicle is actually affected by this action. Not all vehicles in a model series are always affected by an action.
CONTACT
Dorit Mangold, EX-VA-2
Phone: +49 89 382 33664
E-Mail: info.campaign@bmw-motorrad.com
Amazing!!!
I am going to ask my local dealership but it reads like we all get a free driveshaft replacement and you are absolutely right 👍
Thank you so very much for sharing 🙋🏻♂️👏🙏
Carl
Hi TallyHo, i would like to ask you something privately, can you send me an email please, and I will message you.
contactcarltoday@gmail.com
Thank you , carl
Well done to the wizards at Weisertechnik!
P.S. Can't wait for the TüV report!
Hi Nick, Yes, more on that in the installation guide, which will be up tomorrow !, Carl
Looks like a simple and effective solution to a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place. I must admit that I haven't so far had any problems with other traffic mistaking my indicators though I am aware of how they work and am a little concerned about how they are understood by other road users. Installing the full set of five units is certainly a consideration for my 2023 GSA 1250. I wonder if the incoming GS 1300 will have a similar lighting set up?.
Great content in your film clips, keep it up.
Hi Neville, yes it’s certainly an easy installation and makes a big improvement over stock. Their have been several reported accidents with the stock lights being the cause but I decided not to focus on that because I don’t have access to the facts. Weiser developed these while working with several UK BMW dealership who will be stocking and installing them for their customers who are already not happy.
The installation guide is almost ready I hope to have it up tomorrow at 5.00pm
Best wishes Carl
Yes, sadly the new GS is even worse, I’m told they have now completely removed the rear lamp assembly which if true is very disappointing
We have to wait for the official launch. Carl
@justthewayitis the BMW bulb counters have taken over!
yes indeed...
Another quality and informative video.That looks a good addition and something I'm going to add to my Christmas list.
I already purchased the brake light module after viewing your channel.
Can i purchase the indicator modules separately, Carl?
Cheers.
Dankeschön für dein Video bin gespannt auf den TÜV 😂
Hallo Franz, danke 🙏
Lg Carl
Hi Carl, this is nice and I like the plug and play function with the original plugs. I have built exactly the same function myself, using a cheap timer module. The front lights I diabled easily just by coding. I am exited to hear what your TUEV said about it. Did you also talk with them about the center taillight being turned on all the time ?
Yes, not allowed 🤔
See tonight’s video
They also said, that if i hadn't highlighted the changes they probably wouldn't have noticed.
They had to read the large manual of regulations to check..... LOL
But i was grateful of their time and feedback
Hi Carl, Last year I bought the Extreme Evo full kit. There was no solution for the tail light at the time. Since then, Weiser has introduced two solutions for the tail light: the Wizard center module (only available when you buy the complete rear set?) and the Ext-Run-on module. The Wizard center module is plug-and-play, the Ext-Run-on module is not. Besides plug and play which is so much easier, are there any other (functional) differences between the Wizard center module and the Ext-Run-on module? Kind regards, Alex
Hi Alex,
No , no difference
The EXT was a great idea but the feedback I and others gave them was that it needs to be completely plug and play and simpler to install… hence a new version which is.
The new plug and play version will replace the EXT.
Functional it’s the same.
Weiser-Tech had a problem finding a supplier of the socket but now they have a solution which is why they have been able to move ahead with Wizard modules which was the original plan.
If you have purchased a full EVO Extreme kit you have two options 😉
Send them an email and they will sell you the new plug and play version by its self. ( it will be available on the website soon)
If you have already purchased the original EXT version they will replace that with a plug and play version if you wish.
Just send Mark at Weiser-Tech an email and he will sort it out for you. They very friendly and helpful.
My preferred setup is EVO Extreme plus plug and play tail light module
Hope that all makes sense
Greetings Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks again Carl! I bought the Ext-Run-on module last June as an extra addition to the full Extreme Evo kit I bought and installed 6 months prior. But I have not yet installed the Ext-Run-on module. So I just sent Debbie and Mark an email asking them if is possible tot return it and have it replaced by the the plug and play Wizard center module.
I completely agree with you: I have previously experienced that they are very friendly and helpful!
👍 let me know how you get on.
Regards Carl
Very clear explanation. When will the installation video for the 1250 GSA be available?
Hi David, I'm just about finished editing the guide, I will have it ready by lunch time tomorrow. Fingers crossed. Carl
@justthewayitis Thank you, very clear video. The front panel removal on the 1250 GSA is quite a bit more complex and a separate video showing this would be a great help.
But a fantastic solution to a problem which should not have been created.
Hi David, if I had a GSA would make a video. A few subscribers have already installed them on the GSA and have mentioned the extra work needed.
Have a great weekend
Carl
Carl another amazing video! If we put aside the price and installation duration , why just not simply get the EVO option? Aside of course that in the EVO there is no centre light turn on option? What’s your opinion on this?
Yes of course
My preferred set up is
EVO Extreme full kit front and rear PLUS the Run-on module which you can order separately
Just make sure on your order you ask for the Plug & Play Version of the Run-on
Weiser will send you the correct one this way
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks Carl again for your valuable insight, as I kind of like the current lights I went with the wizard option and then will see, thanks again
Good luck with your installation
Carl
@@justthewayitis yeah, thanks to your video instructions I believe it will be a breeze 👍
Hi Carl as usual great video, do you have a coupon code to use ? Thanks 🙏🏽
Hello Mila, Watch Episode 13 on my channel, at the end you will find a step by step of how to get your discount code.
Easy and simple to do
Best wishes Carl
i'd just wish for the tail light 'always on' feature. can we add that module if we already have the evo pro installed?
Yes you can, it’s plug and play 👍. I have it on my 2021 GS along with the Extreme EVO kit.
Carl
@@justthewayitis this is great news! However, I can't find the product on their page. FYI/ICYMI - I think also you meant to put a link here in the description "Go here to visit the Weiser Technik product page:" but there is no link.
If you have the part number or proper name it might be helpful. I'll ask Weiser support too, but in case you are quicker :)
Thanks for all the help!
This the link
www.weisertechnik.co.uk/product/weiser-wizards-bmw-multifunction-indicators-re-sequencing-modules-r1250-gs-a-2021-rear-module-only/
This reactivates the centre tail running light.
Carl
I'm considering an R1300GS but one thing I don't like about it is BMW has eliminated the rear center light completely. The bike seems excellent otherwise but this was a stupid decision. Maybe there's an opportunity for Weiser to produce a center light plus modules.
Hi Paul, yes I’ve already talked to Weiser-Tech about this once we saw the early images.
I agree… it’s a silly thing to remove and will put off buyers
The ADMORE LIGHT BAR PRO is the brake light that will fix everything. I have it on mine and I get asked about it all the time.
I have a 2024 adventure and don’t see anything wrong with the factory lights, maybe they fixed whatever the problem.
Hi George, if you’re happy with your indicators, then that’s all that really matters. Congratulations on your 2024 GSA 🙋🏻♂️
Very interesting ! Is it compatible with the new 1300GS? THANKS 😉✌🏽
Yes they are 👍🙋🏻♂️
Hi , Is it possible to have the rear flashing lights with a single function as before, while having the rear lights activated thanks to your module which allows it ?
Hi, with the Wizard Modules the only option is as shown in the video.
Basically, while indicating all other functions are turned off ( brake if applicable and side light)
Is the plug and play rearlight option available on the website of weiser?
Hi Tom
Yes
Go here
www.weisertechnik.co.uk/product/reactivate-rear-running-light-function-on-2021-23-model-year-r1250-gss-and-gsas/
Ask Weiser to send you the plug and play version
It’s much easier to install
Just mention this in your order or give them a call.
Speak to Mark the boss
He we ensure you get the plug and play version
Carl
Thank you for the quick answer... great videos!
Your welcome, the Weiser team are extremely helpful. carl
Germany being Germany, I assume the tail light reactivation module is illegal, can't imagine having three tail lights checks out with the local authorities. So when the hazards are on, are there no tail lights active? Seems a bit unsafe to me. Good luck explaining that to your insurance company when you get rear ended at night.
Correct, 3 tail lights not permissible, that is an individual choice to activate it or not.
There’s a new product out next month that addresses the lighting conditions when hazards are activated.
So when hazards are active the tail and brake lights are again visible.
Rear is fantastic. Front is a missed chance by my opinion: should have been a module that disables the running lights on both sides when indicating, turning back running lights on when done (Similar to what the rear side does on indicating only then both sides turn off)
Hi, Yes that was tested during the development, but Weiser decided that ( and i agree ) there should be no Amber running lights on the front of motorbikes because they are dangerous. Lots of testing was done and i think eventual they will be removed from all motorbikes. Some countries already ban them.
Regards Carl
I'm just realizing the high price of 230€, and sending it into the EU with all the % taxes and import duties that go over this price will make this a staggering 350€ for just the rear set. My god.... just modules not even new lights 😢 this is over the top
I do understand your comment, sadly with Brexit we are often hit with a import duty.
Weiser-Tech lowered the EU price in relation to GBP which is nice as when you add VAT it’s good value, and lower than a UK price, but due to Brexit some countries add an additional import duty tax on top, which is not nice. 😞
Come devo fare per acquistare ?
Devo comprare anche le frecce del modello anno 2023?
La mia è 2019
hi Carl, as i unserstaind this is not for my r 1250 gs hp from 2020?
Hi yes correct, the 2020 model does not have multifunction indicators , but you can fit the EVO Extreme kit which is what I have done and prefer.
See episode 13
Carl
..yeah, those orange lights have got to go, bought the Wieser light set..
Indeed they need to go 👍
@@justthewayitis bought the extreme evo set for the extra brightness that you mentioned..
Hi David which bike have you installed them on ?
@@justthewayitis R1250GS Adventure. Had to take off a load more parts than on your GS based guide. I'll send you a video if you want to see the carnage...
Ah yes the adventure can be a little more tricky, but glad you have had success even without a guide to help you 👍.
Bringt einfach weiße Positionsbeleuchtung mit gelbe Blinkfunktion, so wie jedes Auto heutzutage standardmäßig hat!
Mit LED gar kein Problem…🤷♂️
👍 LG Carl
so these are no good for american bikes?
Yes you can fit these to North American bikes, see my other videos showing you step by step how to install them
Io ho un ga standard del 2019 posso creare la situazione cambiando le frecce ?
Quanto mi costa il modulo ?
ciao e benvenuto nel canale, sì, puoi montare questi indicatori EVO Extreme sulla GS 2019
@Francesco-gu8fu
ciao e benvenuto nel canale, sì, puoi montare questi indicatori EVO Extreme sulla GS 2019