Hi James, excellent news, I'm really pleased that your happy with them. Give them time to bed-in and wear to the shape of the discs..and they will be better still. Well done 👍Carl
Brilliantly explained without bias. My bike came from the dealer sprayed liberally with silicone spray and is still on parts of the bike a year later! I only found your channel a week or so ago. Can’t wait for your screen test results as I am going through the same issues with buffeting on my helmet! Keep it up 👍
Hi Mike and welcome to the channel, yes Silicone spray gets everywhere if your not careful. Glad to hear you are enjoying the series. I currently have a cheap version of the MRA Xscreen mounted and it does a great job of reducing the turbulence/ noise. Best wishes Carl
Thing is with contamination is that it will get burned off just by using the brakes. I'm not saying don't take care of your brakes but if they were that sensitive then shit from the road would render your brakes useless constantly. I have accidently gotten stuff like acf50 on my disks before and only noticed when I started riding. I just made sure to do some hard braking to get the performance back.
Hi Jack , your point is valid to a degree, but with over 40 years of experience working with brakes my advice is valid and does offer a simple solution to improving performance. Different contaminants have different effects some are hard to remove but by cleaning the surface of the pads and discs this generally helps improve performance. Thank you for sharing your thoughts Kindest regards Carl
I’ve only recently found this channel and the videos are great! I’ve watched all the GS ones already - they’re very informative! Subscribed and liked across the board!
Hello Adam and thank you for your comments and subscribing, slowly more viewers are joining which is great. I am pleased you enjoyed the episodes. Best wishes Carl
I thank you and take my hat off to you for all your work on these insanely informative videos. I get my r1250r Triple Black this week after waiting for 3 months. So excited!!! I love a new bike day lol. Your videos are excellent 👏 👌 👍 🙌 😀 ps... i am stunned at how easy it is to change the pads.
Hi Colin, well congratulations on your new bike, they are lovely as your about to find out. Thank you for feedback on the GS series some of them took months to put together with help from BMW (Dynamic ESA series) lots of telephone and emails calls to their technical team. Glad you enjoy them Kindest regards Carl
Thanks again Carl for another very knowledgeable and detailed video , you must have forgotten more about bikes than I know so obviously it’s extremely important to get it right in this department. BMW could save a few trees and ink by recommending to watch your videos in their handbooks .
Hi Graham, thank you. Interestingly, some BMW dealers are doing just that, ive received emails from dealers thanking me because now they reference their customers to my videos to help explain the systems on the bikes they sell. Best wishes Carl
Fantastic video, brilliantly presented Carl and thank you for your advice and suggestions! I will be ordering up a set of SA pads for my R1250R in time for my next track day 😊
Hi Rikky, I think we all wish we could spend at least one afternoon at a track day event... you are showing us all what we are probably missing. It looks a lot of fun, but I'm not sure I could trust myself not to over do it at the first corner and end up in the gravel trap. smile Best wishes Carl
Thanks for all the information on the brakes. I have Hayes installed on my GSA, but I think I may get the Brembos put on. Like you I'm a bit of a sportier rider and do a lot of trail braking.
I put the carbon ceramic (blue plate) pads on my f800st, they're fantastic. Can be a bit grabby when you start your ride so a couple of hard braking sequences smoothes them out. Great in the wet too.
Hi A lot depends on your riding style and how you use your brakes. A good replacement is the LA pad which is similar to OEM but with better feel. The SA is really good pad if you ride a little quicker as it offers great feel and improved performance. Don’t fit SC or SR pads they need LOTS of heavy constant use to get them working correctly. Personally it would be SA pads from Brembo Let me know what you decide to fit and what you think of them compared to the OEM pads Carl
Very detailed and very informative. I got a 2022 gs and looking forward to my hayes caliber leakcage so that i can let them to be replaced by bmw. Greetings from izmir Turkey.
I live in the USA, and have a 2020 1250GSA that was part of the Hayes caliper recall. I had them inspected by my dealer two times, with no sign of leaking. Even though I had the option of replacing them with the Brembo, I opted not to change them, because I felt that the Hayes had better stopping power. 55k miles on the bike now, and still no signs of leakage.
Hi Craig, hello and welcome, yes the Hayes do have great stopping power and you are obviously one of the lucky owners to have no issues. Wishing you a great spring and many happy miles on your GSA. Regards Carl
As always, great and very interesting video Carl. I learned a lot. Thankfully, I do not spray anything directly on my bikes so I do not think that I have any contamination on the breaking pads. Thanks for sharing the video… I would like to have the Brembo calipers on my GS, but the Hayes ones have not leaked so I guess I cannot have them changed (free of cost that is) by BMW. Wish you a safe riding and look forward to your next video. Cheers.
Hi Max, thank you for compliment, good to hear you already clean and detail your GS the correct way. I wouldn't rush to swap the calipers.. the Hayes are very good, it's just that last little bit of feel that the Brembo's give if you ride a little faster than most. Best wishes Carl
Excellent video with clear explanations. My question is would it be more beneficial for off-roading purposes to use the Hayes type calipers as they are a more enclosed system thus avoiding a lot of ie dirt, mud & sand for example. Great job Carl and I have just added myself onto your subscribed list. Look forwards to more videos.
Hi My Tube, that's a great question, your thought process sounds good, but once the dirt, mud and muck gets into the space between the caliper and pads, the Hayes are not easy to clean or inspect. But it's a good question. Maybe some more off road experienced subscribers can comment and share on that 👍 Carl
Great video Carl! If you're washing your bike with normal car/bike soap, will that also contaminate the brakes or is that safe? Thanks for all your videos, they're great for a beginner like me 😊
Hi Johnathan and welcome to the channel. You will be fine with normal car wash just remember to rinse the brakes down with clean water once your finished. Also its worth taking your clean bike for a quick ride to warm up and dry your brakes once your done cleaning. This will ensure the water is completely gone and the discs will less likely discolour while the bike is waiting for the next ride. Best wishes Carl
Nicely done, thank you. I'd have appreciated at least a hint about the technology that does or doesn't do this or that. HOW do some compound become more tolerant to mud or sand? More coarse?? (Shorter life on regular use as a consequence?) Or, why do Brembos provide more "feedback," HOW is this achieved?
Hi Peter, maybe during the next brake pad episode I can share more specific information about compounds, testing and development. It’s a good suggestion 👍 . My videos are normally way to long and RUclips keeps telling me to make shorter ones to engage more viewers, if I added more content to them, they would to very long indeed. Best wishes Carl
Hi Karl , love your channel but am unable to find your video on changing out the multi function indicators, I totally agree with your criticisms and they have to go!
Hello Paul, and welcome to the channel. That episode is currently being created over this and next week. I have finished testing and I'm really pleased. So it's going be about two weeks before I can complete the editing for that episode. There is also going to be a discount code that subscribers can use. Hope you can wait... smile. Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks for getting back to me, really appreciate all of your videos, they are so much easier to understand than the owners manual. I’m keen to watch the indicator swap. Paul
Hi Carl, like your videos a lot. Very simple and effective information. I have a 2021 GS Rallye. I am 5’7” and would like your advise on fixing handlebar risers on my GS. For me the reach is just about nice but would like a more comfortable feel on long rides where I can feel my palms getting numb.
Hello Sameersu, choosing a set of bar risers is an individual thing. If you are happy with the standard height and reach, you can try adjusting the bar level using the Mark's on the bars. In other words loosen the bolts and twist / rotate the bars downwards by 5 to 10 degrees. This might help with your hands going numb. Alternatively if you do decide to use bar risers they all have slightly different settings. Some go up 30mm and back 35mm, some go up 20mm and back 25mm. So this is your choice and you might need to try a couple to find the perfect solution for you. Also changing the seat height in combination with the angle ( up at the back and down at the front) can also help. It does take time to find your perfect setup. Best wishes Carl
Hi Roland, yes you still can do that, but a very fine smear on the back of pad where both pistons press against the metal part of the brake pad. And yes this is what I do. 🙋🏻♂️ I generally don’t talk about this because it’s easy for people to get confused and use it in the wrong places 😳
Hi Carl. I've just been cleaning my breaks and deglazing my pads as inspired by your video! I've just noticed the large metal spring that sits under the retaining bolt is in a different position when you remove it and when you refit it. Can you confirm which position is correct? Should the retaining bolt sit in the U shape or not? Thanks for the great videos!
Hello and welcome, definitely yes !!! Once brake fluid gets on brake linings either pads or shoes… they need to be replaced and brake discs thoroughly cleaned and decontaminated. Even a small amount of brake fluid is enough to affect the pad performance Carl
Hi James, a great question It all really depends on the owners experience level….If you are not experienced and 100% comfortable working on calipers, I would suggest ONLY moving the pistons back into the calipers once everything is thoroughly clean and you have applied a small amount of lubricant. Then gently push two pistons on one side back into the caliper housing, while holding the other side firm. I REPEAT Absolutely NO moving the pistons in and out, this is the safest way for owners that have limited experience. Moving the pistons in and out / back and forward is possible using the brake lever BUT you have to be extremely careful doing this because the pistons can…. Sometimes… pop out. This ( in and out) is normally only required when the bike has high mileage or has been used in extreme conditions or ridden through several winters as a commuting bike. For most owners, cleaning the calipers thoroughly and using the lubricant I advise in my Ducati series and then gently pushing the pistons back into the housing using the lubricant … is the best and safest way to perform this maintenance. Of course, you can purchase caliper tools and tools for compressing the pistons back into the caliper housing, but for most owners the above steps work just fine. Best wishes Carl
Hi James, thank you, and I hope you enjoy the SA pads. Perhaps just give those discs a clean when you install the new pads that way you will get the best from the SA. And... hopefully you can return and let the other owners here know what you think of the pads. Best wishes Carl
Hi, great informative video. What I don't understand on every GS1200 front brake pad change I have watched is the location of the spring. When the video starts the T30 bolt does not locate in the cut out in the retaining spring yet the reassembly it locates the T30 bolt in the cut out, could you please clarify, many thanks Brian
Very good tutorial from a pro. Do you have any experience with SBS pads? I purchased SBS pads for the rear (R1200GS LC) but the shop gave me model 674HS. Checking their website this pad is meant for the front only and they recommend 674LS for rear application which supposedly will resist brake bind. Do you think this will really be an issue?
Hi, each manufacturer makes slightly different compounds, which is quite often front or rear specific because the performance requirements are different. But essentially it’s just a brake pad… so now the HS is installed I would just see how it performs. The GS is quite heavy on its rear brake so just make sure it doesn’t activate the abs to soon.
One of the subscribers installed Stylema M4.30b with 5mm shorter bolts and a different MC. And was very happy with the results, I’ve not done the conversation myself so perhaps have a look on the forums . I believe they are 100mm. Regards Carl
Hello, I watched your video 4/5 times. I changed my 4.32 Brembo brake pads. The front wheel is a little difficult to turn. Is this normal? Do I need a break-in? The pads I changed are Brembo (brm10dhh). Thank you very much again for the clear information. Greetings from the folk song. 1250 adv.😊
Hi, the front wheel should turn smoothly and easily. Did you thoroughly clean the inside of the calliper and clean the pistons? Did you remove the callipers ? Please confirm. Did you use the lubricants I mentioned in the videos around the pistons and then gently and carefully press the pistons back into the calipers? If you did everything correctly and after a short 10 mile ride to gently bed in the new pads, the front wheel should rotate smoothly with just a little bit of drag / resistance being felt. Carl
@@justthewayitisI don't have caliper piston oil, but I felt that the pistons moved easily. I will disassemble it and check again and try to find the piston grease. I hope I can provide a comfortable wheel rotation. Thank you very much for the information.
@@justthewayitisI did the cleaning process as in the video and took an outside opportunity to disassemble the calipers and I think I cleaned them pretty well.😊
@@justthewayitis I applied the cleaning process as in the video. I applied the caliper piston paste, there was a relief of about 15% compared to the previous one, I drove on 3 different days and now I checked and the wheel turns very easily and my brakes work perfectly. Now it's the rear brake's turn. Tank you.
Do you also need to change rear calipers too? Like if I change the r1250 front calipers with Stylema then do I need to change it too? Or you can just used the OEM one❤ thank you!
Hi, 70% or more of the braking performance and control comes from the front, so for me upgrading the rear caliper would not bring any meaningful benefits. Carl
@@justthewayitis that’s so clear! You said it got the good performance so let’s see how it’s gonna be if I suddenly max out the front break while coming at 200 km/hrs ☠️ thank you! ❤️
hi I have watched so far a few of your vids and have subscribed to the channel........I would like to purchase for my 2015 Bmw R1200 GSA.. the Brembo 07BB38LA front brake pads ........please after a merry go round looking for them on the net.....not found where I can find them......please where do you buy them from? I live near the NEC in Brum. thank you for the vids will continue watching...
Hi, good evening. Brembo sadly don’t have a UK office which is a shame, and they don’t have easy access to buy motorbike pads😔. You could ring Brembosport in Northampton 01604 212140 and see if they can order them for you. I normally order direct from Italy as the prices are better and delivery is just a few days. www.omniaracing.net this is where I always order and get good prices. Carl
Hi Carl, i own a 2015 Kawasaki Er6n which weighs around 206kg wet. What brake pads would you recommend? I do mainly commuting and drive calmy with the occasional spirited ride. What pads would you recommend? Will the carbon ceramic (CC) Brake pads be enough for my bike? Will i get a shorter braking distance with the SA even though i dont ride hard?
Hi Nexii, I would not fit CC pads to your ER6N. Your choice should be between LA and SA. LA work better at lower temperatures and are more of a touring / commuting pad which offer a slight improvement over original. If you install these and clean your calipers / pistons / discs correctly you’ll notice a big improvement. SA takes a little longer to warm up but once it is.. they offer more feel and bite than the LA this is a pad for someone who rides at a quick pace most of the time. Reading what you have said above. LA is the pad I would use in your Kawasaki 👍
@@justthewayitis thank you very much Carl for the extensive explanation. I will go ahead and buy the LA pads in that case. I wish you many more safe kilometers on your bike :)
nice content, but only complain is the sound level is way to low, and when publicity gets in ,blows my speakers, so plz level up the sound by 50%. thx, Allan Canada
Hi Allan and welcome to the channel, thank you for your feedback I will have a look at sound levels in the next video which will be about the new tyres. Best wishes to Canada Carl 👍
When you going to do a video on the proper pairing of tft garmin cardo iphone I still cant get my phone to work correctly everything keeps getting better but the tft trys to make a call then hangs up I have a 2023 r1250gsa
just switched to the GS with brembos from a tiger 1200 and the braking is not as good. Mostly on the 'feel' so far, but I'm not sure how much of that is telelever vs brakes vs possibly the previous owner..
Is your GS new or a previously owned one ? If it’s used I would try a basic brake service, fluid change, clean pads and discs from possible contaminants and make sure all four pistons are moving freely and lubricated. Then when that’s all checked if your still not happy try fitting different pads from Brembo. Carl
@@justthewayitis did the front today and sadly it's no better. I was hopeful too because when cleaning there was a large disparity in how well a few of the pistons were working.
Hi Carl, thanks for the valuable info I have just finished one set of 07gr90sa pads and the brakes were awesome. However my mechanic said while I was updating the new sets that the material (red part) was overheated and burned therefore these are not actually proper pads for a gs and causes heating of break fluid.. I have never had a bad experience but what is your opinion in this regard about red turning to black and burning etc
Hi Motosurus, welcome to the channel. The red part is the metal backing which the brake compound is bonded onto. It’s quite normal for this to discolour during use. Many pads have black painted metal so you won’t see the discolouration or they are not painted and again you would not see any real change in colour. From my experience using Brembo pads this is quite normal and nothing to worry about. All pads transfer heat onto the metal backing and then into the caliper and then into the mounting and lower suspension leg, some heat is transferred into the brake fluid and that’s one reason why we change brake fluid. I feel what you have described is quite normal without actually seeing the pads my self. Hope this helps, Carl
Hi Gasp, 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch. Did you just service your brakes or are you installing new pads? Carl
Hi Gasp, 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch. Did you just service your brakes or are you installing new pads? Carl
Hi Gasp, good morning. 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch. Did you just service and clean your brakes or are you installing new pads? Carl
Sorry for the off topic question but where did you get the rear swing arm protector/GS graphics and the storage bag for the rear grab handles. I did not see the information on you video for the accessories. Thank you in advance
Hi David, no problem, questions are always welcome. If you look through the comments section for the accessories videos I have already given several links to the swinging arm cover, the quality really is very good. As for the small tool bags that fit onto the rear grab handles, these were purchased through ebay and I paid 19€ for them. I dont know your location... so not much point me sending a link, but... smile... if you search for: BMW r1250gs rear tool bags...on your local Ebay, .you will no doubt find them. Looking just now in ebay.co.uk you can find several versions, there is a seller of the exact ones i have. These have been excellent and although they came from China the quality is very good and I get tools and camera gear in mine. One small point there are 3 mounting points. When riding two up, I undue the middle strap so the pillion can more easily grab the handles. The bags still remain secure but when it's just me, I use all 3 straps. Happy shopping 👍 Carl
The swing arm cover is again available on Amazon... it was sold out. I used ebay.de and searched for : BMW r1250gs aufkleber... it was near the top of the search results. Brand is UniRacing...
I was thinking of upgrading my Hayes calipers to M4, but because the piston sizes are different, apparently this changes the ‘feel’ of the leaver. Is this correct??
Hi Slip and welcome to the channel. If you are changing to the standard M4.32 callipers that are an OEM option, it’s a straight swop which I have really enjoyed. I think I put the part numbers in one of my videos that might help you. Black- Gold or you can get Titanium colour too. Ultimate stopping performance is about the same, but brembo is just ahead, but feel and control is much better with the M4.32
Thanks for the informative video. Where do the oem pads sit in the Brembo range, I.e nearest equivalent? My Hayes set up has become graunchy, low frequency vibration, just before coming to a stop especially in the wet. I tried cleaning the discs which worked for a bit. Have you heard of this issue? All the best from South Hessen, Nick
Hi South Hessen, have you tried cleaning both discs and pads at the same time ?. For pads use 180 ish grit. For discs use min 1000 grit. Also use an old toothbrush for cleaning inside the calipers especially the piston side surface. I'm sure you know what to, but the episode in my Ducati series does give full details. The sound you describe is indeed grabbing... something is not clean or is sticking.. Best wishes North Hessen 👍
I've only managed to do the discs with a scotchbrite cloth as I don't have a garage at the moment....I'm not keen on dismantling motorcycles in public car parks....and I expect that the Germans have a law prohibiting it!
Hi Nick... LOL, yes they probably do. You can only really clean the pads with paper I described, and as you have Hayes calipers yes it's a little more work and definitely not easy on the side of the road. Apologies... I forgot to list the pad nearest to the oem, that would be the LA pad from Brembo. Carl
Hi Gary and Welcome. No not all BMW motorbikes with Hayes calipers have been recalled. My suggestion is as follows, ring or visit your nearest dealer and give them your Chassis number, they will then check that against the known database of affected bikes. Also, you might like to physically check your front calipers for any signs of weeping or leaking (Check inside the caliper and outside along the vertical joint) as I describe in the episode. If you have any doubt… ask your dealer to check them for you. I hope this helps, Carl
Hello and good morning Yes the Brembo site is not easy to navigate I also buy from here. www.omniaracing.net You can select English and then search for your motorbike Best wishes Carl
Muhteşem videolar sizi heyecanla izliyorum. Sonra gs için doğru kararları veriyorum teşekkür ederim. ❤
Hi Ibrahim, I wish for you lots of fun on your GS. 🙋🏻♂️
Best wishes Carl
Fantastic video, many of us need the detailed background you provide in your videos. Thank you for taking the time to educate us.
Hello HDK, thank you, we are never to old to learn something new.. smile. Best wishes Carl
Changed my front pads to a set of SA pads BIG improvement. Initial bite a lot lot better and more braking power 👏👏👏👏👏
I’m on your suspension setting now. Will let you know
Hi James, excellent news, I'm really pleased that your happy with them. Give them time to bed-in and wear to the shape of the discs..and they will be better still. Well done 👍Carl
Have fun...
@@justthewayitis Do you think GALFER discs give an improvement on braking
Hi James, Good morning, I just don't know, never fitted them . But some do say they do improve the performance.
Brilliantly explained without bias.
My bike came from the dealer sprayed liberally with silicone spray and is still on parts of the bike a year later!
I only found your channel a week or so ago.
Can’t wait for your screen test results as I am going through the same issues with buffeting on my helmet! Keep it up 👍
Hi Mike and welcome to the channel, yes Silicone spray gets everywhere if your not careful. Glad to hear you are enjoying the series. I currently have a cheap version of the MRA Xscreen mounted and it does a great job of reducing the turbulence/ noise.
Best wishes Carl
Thanks Carl. Another brilliant video. Cheers, Mark 😎
Thank you Mark 👍
Thing is with contamination is that it will get burned off just by using the brakes. I'm not saying don't take care of your brakes but if they were that sensitive then shit from the road would render your brakes useless constantly.
I have accidently gotten stuff like acf50 on my disks before and only noticed when I started riding. I just made sure to do some hard braking to get the performance back.
Hi Jack , your point is valid to a degree, but with over 40 years of experience working with brakes my advice is valid and does offer a simple solution to improving performance. Different contaminants have different effects some are hard to remove but by cleaning the surface of the pads and discs this generally helps improve performance.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
Kindest regards Carl
That was a fantastic explanation, I'm glad I came across your channel as I can tell you know what your talking about, Thanks ian😊
Hi Ian, thank you for your message it’s much appreciated.
Best wishes Carl
I’ve only recently found this channel and the videos are great! I’ve watched all the GS ones already - they’re very informative! Subscribed and liked across the board!
Hello Adam and thank you for your comments and subscribing, slowly more viewers are joining which is great. I am pleased you enjoyed the episodes. Best wishes Carl
I thank you and take my hat off to you for all your work on these insanely informative videos. I get my r1250r Triple Black this week after waiting for 3 months. So excited!!! I love a new bike day lol. Your videos are excellent 👏 👌 👍 🙌 😀
ps... i am stunned at how easy it is to change the pads.
Hi Colin, well congratulations on your new bike, they are lovely as your about to find out. Thank you for feedback on the GS series some of them took months to put together with help from BMW (Dynamic ESA series) lots of telephone and emails calls to their technical team.
Glad you enjoy them
Kindest regards Carl
Wow… I just educated. Thanks for the video Carl. Keep up the great work!
Thank you Bruce
Thanks again Carl for another very knowledgeable and detailed video , you must have forgotten more about bikes than I know so obviously it’s extremely important to get it right in this department. BMW could save a few trees and ink by recommending to watch your videos in their handbooks .
Hi Graham, thank you. Interestingly, some BMW dealers are doing just that, ive received emails from dealers thanking me because now they reference their customers to my videos to help explain the systems on the bikes they sell.
Best wishes Carl
Fantastic video, brilliantly presented Carl and thank you for your advice and suggestions! I will be ordering up a set of SA pads for my R1250R in time for my next track day 😊
Hi Rikky, I think we all wish we could spend at least one afternoon at a track day event... you are showing us all what we are probably missing. It looks a lot of fun, but I'm not sure I could trust myself not to over do it at the first corner and end up in the gravel trap. smile
Best wishes Carl
Thanks for all the information on the brakes. I have Hayes installed on my GSA, but I think I may get the Brembos put on. Like you I'm a bit of a sportier rider and do a lot of trail braking.
Hi Correy, sounds like you have a plan 👍.
Best wishes Carl and enjoy your Sunday.
I put the carbon ceramic (blue plate) pads on my f800st, they're fantastic. Can be a bit grabby when you start your ride so a couple of hard braking sequences smoothes them out. Great in the wet too.
Hi Two Wheels, welcome and thank you for sharing your experience... best wishes Carl
I wish I had seen this sooner. I ordered Brembo carbon ceramic pads for my R1200rt as the advert said they were for the R1200rt
They will still work but just not the best option. Carl
Hi
A lot depends on your riding style and how you use your brakes.
A good replacement is the LA pad which is similar to OEM but with better feel.
The SA is really good pad if you ride a little quicker as it offers great feel and improved performance.
Don’t fit SC or SR pads they need LOTS of heavy constant use to get them working correctly.
Personally it would be SA pads from Brembo
Let me know what you decide to fit and what you think of them compared to the OEM pads
Carl
Another excellent how to video .... Sei proprio bravo .... Grazie !
Thank you 👍
Excellent video
Thank you 😊
Very detailed and very informative. I got a 2022 gs and looking forward to my hayes caliber leakcage so that i can let them to be replaced by bmw. Greetings from izmir Turkey.
Good evening Turkey and welcome Ugur. Not all Hayes calipers leak, but if yours do fingers crossed your dealer fits Brembo for you.
Best wishes Carl
I live in the USA, and have a 2020 1250GSA that was part of the Hayes caliper recall. I had them inspected by my dealer two times, with no sign of leaking. Even though I had the option of replacing them with the Brembo, I opted not to change them, because I felt that the Hayes had better stopping power. 55k miles on the bike now, and still no signs of leakage.
Hi Craig, hello and welcome, yes the Hayes do have great stopping power and you are obviously one of the lucky owners to have no issues. Wishing you a great spring and many happy miles on your GSA.
Regards Carl
@@justthewayitis ❤
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Super video....🙂
Hi Jiŕi, welcome to the channel and thank you. Best wishes Carl
Thanks for this Carl, Richard
Your welcome !!
As always, great and very interesting video Carl. I learned a lot. Thankfully, I do not spray anything directly on my bikes so I do not think that I have any contamination on the breaking pads. Thanks for sharing the video… I would like to have the Brembo calipers on my GS, but the Hayes ones have not leaked so I guess I cannot have them changed (free of cost that is) by BMW. Wish you a safe riding and look forward to your next video. Cheers.
Hi Max, thank you for compliment, good to hear you already clean and detail your GS the correct way.
I wouldn't rush to swap the calipers.. the Hayes are very good, it's just that last little bit of feel that the Brembo's give if you ride a little faster than most.
Best wishes Carl
Excellent video with clear explanations. My question is would it be more beneficial for off-roading purposes to use the Hayes type calipers as they are a more enclosed system thus avoiding a lot of ie dirt, mud & sand for example. Great job Carl and I have just added myself onto your subscribed list. Look forwards to more videos.
Hi My Tube, that's a great question, your thought process sounds good, but once the dirt, mud and muck gets into the space between the caliper and pads, the Hayes are not easy to clean or inspect. But it's a good question. Maybe some more off road experienced subscribers can comment and share on that 👍
Carl
@@justthewayitis Very true thanks for the reply Brembo it is
Your welcome anytime 👍
Great video Carl! If you're washing your bike with normal car/bike soap, will that also contaminate the brakes or is that safe? Thanks for all your videos, they're great for a beginner like me 😊
Hi Johnathan and welcome to the channel. You will be fine with normal car wash just remember to rinse the brakes down with clean water once your finished. Also its worth taking your clean bike for a quick ride to warm up and dry your brakes once your done cleaning. This will ensure the water is completely gone and the discs will less likely discolour while the bike is waiting for the next ride. Best wishes Carl
Nicely done, thank you.
I'd have appreciated at least a hint about the technology that does or doesn't do this or that. HOW do some compound become more tolerant to mud or sand? More coarse?? (Shorter life on regular use as a consequence?)
Or, why do Brembos provide more "feedback," HOW is this achieved?
Hi Peter, maybe during the next brake pad episode I can share more specific information about compounds, testing and development. It’s a good suggestion 👍 .
My videos are normally way to long and RUclips keeps telling me to make shorter ones to engage more viewers, if I added more content to them, they would to very long indeed.
Best wishes Carl
Hi Karl , love your channel but am unable to find your video on changing out the multi function indicators, I totally agree with your criticisms and they have to go!
Hello Paul, and welcome to the channel. That episode is currently being created over this and next week. I have finished testing and I'm really pleased. So it's going be about two weeks before I can complete the editing for that episode. There is also going to be a discount code that subscribers can use. Hope you can wait... smile.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks for getting back to me, really appreciate all of your videos, they are so much easier to understand than the owners manual. I’m keen to watch the indicator swap.
Paul
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Thanks for sharing this ❤
Hi, your very welcome 🙏
Excellent explanation..
Hello Talib and welcome, thank you
Carl
Great job Carl!
Merci beaucoup 👍👍👍
Hi Stephan, thank you I hope the episode helps owners of all brands, keep their brakes in tip top condition.
Best wishes Carl
@@justthewayitis
Really help me and my 1250 GS 2022 with ...Hayes caliper....
Have a nice weekend.
Have a good weekend too 👍
Hi Carl, like your videos a lot. Very simple and effective information. I have a 2021 GS Rallye. I am 5’7” and would like your advise on fixing handlebar risers on my GS. For me the reach is just about nice but would like a more comfortable feel on long rides where I can feel my palms getting numb.
Hello Sameersu, choosing a set of bar risers is an individual thing. If you are happy with the standard height and reach, you can try adjusting the bar level using the Mark's on the bars. In other words loosen the bolts and twist / rotate the bars downwards by 5 to 10 degrees. This might help with your hands going numb.
Alternatively if you do decide to use bar risers they all have slightly different settings. Some go up 30mm and back 35mm, some go up 20mm and back 25mm. So this is your choice and you might need to try a couple to find the perfect solution for you.
Also changing the seat height in combination with the angle ( up at the back and down at the front) can also help.
It does take time to find your perfect setup. Best wishes Carl
I miss you Carl.
What’s the best brake pad for instant bite on the road?
Hi Tally Ho, SA pads are the ones to have 👍 on the Front.
I’m back very soon 🙋🏻♂️
great work
Thankyou Ironwooly 👍
Such a useful video. Thank you.
Hi Roland, your welcome 🙏 Carl
Can I ask you - we used to put coppaslip behind the pads. Is that necessary?
@@justthewayitis
Hi Roland, yes you still can do that, but a very fine smear on the back of pad where both pistons press against the metal part of the brake pad. And yes this is what I do. 🙋🏻♂️
I generally don’t talk about this because it’s easy for people to get confused and use it in the wrong places 😳
Thank you so much for that. Much appreciated. @@justthewayitis
You’re welcome
Hi Carl. I've just been cleaning my breaks and deglazing my pads as inspired by your video!
I've just noticed the large metal spring that sits under the retaining bolt is in a different position when you remove it and when you refit it.
Can you confirm which position is correct? Should the retaining bolt sit in the U shape or not?
Thanks for the great videos!
Hi well spotted
The correct position is as it’s re installed
Pin through the U shape 👍
Good luck with your cleaning it makes a big difference, Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks Carl! I'm yet to try the clean brakes but looking forward to it!
Hi Carl. Thanks for the video. Very informative, helpful. How about brake fluid, does it contaminate the brake pads? Cheers
Hello and welcome, definitely yes !!! Once brake fluid gets on brake linings either pads or shoes… they need to be replaced and brake discs thoroughly cleaned and decontaminated. Even a small amount of brake fluid is enough to affect the pad performance
Carl
@@justthewayitisthank you for the bad news hehe. Was bleeding and got sloppy. Cheers
Superb vid What’s the best way of moving the brake pistons back and forward to clean and lub the piston
Hi James, a great question
It all really depends on the owners experience level….If you are not experienced and 100% comfortable working on calipers, I would suggest ONLY moving the pistons back into the calipers once everything is thoroughly clean and you have applied a small amount of lubricant. Then gently push two pistons on one side back into the caliper housing, while holding the other side firm. I REPEAT Absolutely NO moving the pistons in and out, this is the safest way for owners that have limited experience.
Moving the pistons in and out / back and forward is possible using the brake lever BUT you have to be extremely careful doing this because the pistons can…. Sometimes… pop out. This ( in and out) is normally only required when the bike has high mileage or has been used in extreme conditions or ridden through several winters as a commuting bike.
For most owners, cleaning the calipers thoroughly and using the lubricant I advise in my Ducati series and then gently pushing the pistons back into the housing using the lubricant … is the best and safest way to perform this maintenance.
Of course, you can purchase caliper tools and tools for compressing the pistons back into the caliper housing, but for most owners the above steps work just fine.
Best wishes Carl
Thanks Carl going to give your Brembo brake pad up
upgrades a go. I run two up
briskly most of the time so going to try the SA pads a try 👍
Hi James, thank you, and I hope you enjoy the SA pads. Perhaps just give those discs a clean when you install the new pads that way you will get the best from the SA. And... hopefully you can return and let the other owners here know what you think of the pads.
Best wishes Carl
Very informatice!
Hi Ray, thank you 👍
Best wishes Carl
Hi, great informative video. What I don't understand on every GS1200 front brake pad change I have watched is the location of the spring. When the video starts the T30 bolt does not locate in the cut out in the retaining spring yet the reassembly it locates the T30 bolt in the cut out, could you please clarify, many thanks Brian
Hi Brian, send me an email and I’ll forward you some pictures
Contactcarltoday@gmail.com
Email sent
Very good tutorial from a pro. Do you have any experience with SBS pads? I purchased SBS pads for the rear (R1200GS LC) but the shop gave me model 674HS. Checking their website this pad is meant for the front only and they recommend 674LS for rear application which supposedly will resist brake bind. Do you think this will really be an issue?
Hi, each manufacturer makes slightly different compounds, which is quite often front or rear specific because the performance requirements are different. But essentially it’s just a brake pad… so now the HS is installed I would just see how it performs.
The GS is quite heavy on its rear brake so just make sure it doesn’t activate the abs to soon.
What is the model/ brand of your windscreen spoiler?
Hi Chuck, if you mean the short one on top of the standard screen that you can see in my videos, this is a MRA Xscreen.
Its brilliant !!!
Carl
Wich One should i choose….M4 100mm or M4 108mm?….do i need Spaces kit?
One of the subscribers installed Stylema M4.30b with 5mm shorter bolts and a different MC. And was very happy with the results, I’ve not done the conversation myself so perhaps have a look on the forums . I believe they are 100mm. Regards Carl
Hello, I watched your video 4/5 times. I changed my 4.32 Brembo brake pads. The front wheel is a little difficult to turn. Is this normal? Do I need a break-in? The pads I changed are Brembo (brm10dhh). Thank you very much again for the clear information. Greetings from the folk song. 1250 adv.😊
Hi, the front wheel should turn smoothly and easily.
Did you thoroughly clean the inside of the calliper and clean the pistons?
Did you remove the callipers ? Please confirm.
Did you use the lubricants I mentioned in the videos around the pistons and then gently and carefully press the pistons back into the calipers?
If you did everything correctly and after a short 10 mile ride to gently bed in the new pads, the front wheel should rotate smoothly with just a little bit of drag / resistance being felt.
Carl
@@justthewayitisI don't have caliper piston oil, but I felt that the pistons moved easily. I will disassemble it and check again and try to find the piston grease. I hope I can provide a comfortable wheel rotation. Thank you very much for the information.
@@justthewayitisI did the cleaning process as in the video and took an outside opportunity to disassemble the calipers and I think I cleaned them pretty well.😊
Ok, brilliant, 🙋🏻♂️
@@justthewayitis I applied the cleaning process as in the video. I applied the caliper piston paste, there was a relief of about 15% compared to the previous one, I drove on 3 different days and now I checked and the wheel turns very easily and my brakes work perfectly. Now it's the rear brake's turn. Tank you.
Do you also need to change rear calipers too? Like if I change the r1250 front calipers with Stylema then do I need to change it too? Or you can just used the OEM one❤ thank you!
Hi, 70% or more of the braking performance and control comes from the front, so for me upgrading the rear caliper would not bring any meaningful benefits.
Carl
@@justthewayitis that’s so clear! You said it got the good performance so let’s see how it’s gonna be if I suddenly max out the front break while coming at 200 km/hrs ☠️ thank you! ❤️
@terathepsakunjaruenpong6555 good luck with your Stylema conversion 👍
hi I have watched so far a few of your vids and have subscribed to the channel........I would like to purchase for my 2015 Bmw R1200 GSA.. the Brembo 07BB38LA front brake pads ........please after a merry go round looking for them on the net.....not found where I can find them......please where do you buy them from? I live near the NEC in Brum. thank you for the vids will continue watching...
Hi, good evening.
Brembo sadly don’t have a UK office which is a shame, and they don’t have easy access to buy motorbike pads😔.
You could ring Brembosport in Northampton 01604 212140 and see if they can order them for you.
I normally order direct from Italy as the prices are better and delivery is just a few days.
www.omniaracing.net this is where I always order and get good prices.
Carl
thanks for the help chap@@justthewayitis
Hi Carl, i own a 2015 Kawasaki Er6n which weighs around 206kg wet. What brake pads would you recommend?
I do mainly commuting and drive calmy with the occasional spirited ride.
What pads would you recommend?
Will the carbon ceramic (CC) Brake pads be enough for my bike?
Will i get a shorter braking distance with the SA even though i dont ride hard?
Hi Nexii, I would not fit CC pads to your ER6N.
Your choice should be between LA and SA.
LA work better at lower temperatures and are more of a touring / commuting pad which offer a slight improvement over original. If you install these and clean your calipers / pistons / discs correctly you’ll notice a big improvement.
SA takes a little longer to warm up but once it is.. they offer more feel and bite than the LA this is a pad for someone who rides at a quick pace most of the time.
Reading what you have said above.
LA is the pad I would use in your Kawasaki 👍
@@justthewayitis thank you very much Carl for the extensive explanation. I will go ahead and buy the LA pads in that case. I wish you many more safe kilometers on your bike :)
You are welcome 🙏
Hello, can you recommend a website where I can buy LA pads for Hayes calipers ? Many thanks
Direct from Brembo, italy or any local Brembo dealer near to you.
Where are you located and which bike model year..?
@@justthewayitis Southeast. 2021 GSA TE.
Sportsbikeshop.co uk
In stock 👍
nice content, but only complain is the sound level is way to low, and when publicity gets in ,blows my speakers, so plz level up the sound by 50%. thx, Allan Canada
Hi Allan and welcome to the channel, thank you for your feedback I will have a look at sound levels in the next video which will be about the new tyres.
Best wishes to Canada
Carl 👍
When you going to do a video on the proper pairing of tft garmin cardo iphone
I still cant get my phone to work correctly everything keeps getting better but the tft trys to make a call then hangs up
I have a 2023 r1250gsa
Hi Paul
Your not the only one 😞, ok I’ll add this to my list of videos to make
Regards Carl
just switched to the GS with brembos from a tiger 1200 and the braking is not as good. Mostly on the 'feel' so far, but I'm not sure how much of that is telelever vs brakes vs possibly the previous owner..
Is your GS new or a previously owned one ?
If it’s used I would try a basic brake service, fluid change, clean pads and discs from possible contaminants and make sure all four pistons are moving freely and lubricated.
Then when that’s all checked if your still not happy try fitting different pads from Brembo.
Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks, appreciate your quick response. It is used and I'll definitely try those steps.
No problem, your welcome.
Perhaps you will report back if you find a improvement..
@@justthewayitis ill try to remember!
@@justthewayitis did the front today and sadly it's no better. I was hopeful too because when cleaning there was a large disparity in how well a few of the pistons were working.
Hi Carl, thanks for the valuable info
I have just finished one set of 07gr90sa pads and the brakes were awesome. However my mechanic said while I was updating the new sets that the material (red part) was overheated and burned therefore these are not actually proper pads for a gs and causes heating of break fluid.. I have never had a bad experience but what is your opinion in this regard about red turning to black and burning etc
Hi Motosurus, welcome to the channel. The red part is the metal backing which the brake compound is bonded onto. It’s quite normal for this to discolour during use. Many pads have black painted metal so you won’t see the discolouration or they are not painted and again you would not see any real change in colour.
From my experience using Brembo pads this is quite normal and nothing to worry about.
All pads transfer heat onto the metal backing and then into the caliper and then into the mounting and lower suspension leg, some heat is transferred into the brake fluid and that’s one reason why we change brake fluid.
I feel what you have described is quite normal without actually seeing the pads my self.
Hope this helps, Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks Carl i felt the same
Glad to hear you are enjoying the SA pads 👍
I’m having difficulty knowing how to even begin looking for these SA pads in Canada. Does anyone have tips on how to source these?
Hi Paul
www.omniaracing.net/en/
This is who I use for my pads directly from Italy they ship to Canada
Carl
@@justthewayitis Thanks!
No problem, the prices are normally very good too ✌️
the spring plate with the "U" notch at minute 17:30 is mounted differently than you show at minute 23:05. Which one would be the right one?
Hi Gasp, 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch.
Did you just service your brakes or are you installing new pads?
Carl
Hi Gasp, 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch.
Did you just service your brakes or are you installing new pads?
Carl
Hi Gasp, good morning. 22:50 shows the correct way to install the spring, with the bolt resting in the U shape notch.
Did you just service and clean your brakes or are you installing new pads?
Carl
@@justthewayitis Exactly! and I installed as at minute 22 with the pin in the U-shaped socket I put sintered red Brembos
Brilliant, I hope you enjoy your new braking performance 🙋🏻♂️👍
Rear brake pads?
The Brembo SP is a good choice for the rear.
Sorry for the off topic question but where did you get the rear swing arm protector/GS graphics and the storage bag for the rear grab handles. I did not see the information on you video for the accessories.
Thank you in advance
Hi David, no problem, questions are always welcome. If you look through the comments section for the accessories videos I have already given several links to the swinging arm cover, the quality really is very good. As for the small tool bags that fit onto the rear grab handles, these were purchased through ebay and I paid 19€ for them. I dont know your location... so not much point me sending a link, but... smile... if you search for: BMW r1250gs rear tool bags...on your local Ebay, .you will no doubt find them. Looking just now in ebay.co.uk you can find several versions, there is a seller of the exact ones i have. These have been excellent and although they came from China the quality is very good and I get tools and camera gear in mine. One small point there are 3 mounting points. When riding two up, I undue the middle strap so the pillion can more easily grab the handles. The bags still remain secure but when it's just me, I use all 3 straps.
Happy shopping 👍
Carl
www.ebay.de/itm/304560010292?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-127634-2357-0&ssspo=tav0wgymsbu&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=kPvY8I7KT1e&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
The swing arm cover is again available on Amazon... it was sold out. I used ebay.de and searched for : BMW r1250gs aufkleber... it was near the top of the search results. Brand is UniRacing...
@@justthewayitis thank you
Your welcome 👍
I was thinking of upgrading my Hayes calipers to M4, but because the piston sizes are different, apparently this changes the ‘feel’ of the leaver. Is this correct??
Hi Slip and welcome to the channel. If you are changing to the standard M4.32 callipers that are an OEM option, it’s a straight swop which I have really enjoyed.
I think I put the part numbers in one of my videos that might help you. Black- Gold or you can get Titanium colour too.
Ultimate stopping performance is about the same, but brembo is just ahead, but feel and control is much better with the M4.32
Plus changing pads is then a doddle and you can buy something better like the SA pad, Carl
What pads for my 2021 rt
The Brembo SA pads are a very good option for the RT
Thanks for the informative video.
Where do the oem pads sit in the Brembo range, I.e nearest equivalent?
My Hayes set up has become graunchy, low frequency vibration, just before coming to a stop especially in the wet. I tried cleaning the discs which worked for a bit. Have you heard of this issue?
All the best from South Hessen, Nick
Hi South Hessen, have you tried cleaning both discs and pads at the same time ?.
For pads use 180 ish grit.
For discs use min 1000 grit.
Also use an old toothbrush for cleaning inside the calipers especially the piston side surface. I'm sure you know what to, but the episode in my Ducati series does give full details.
The sound you describe is indeed grabbing... something is not clean or is sticking.. Best wishes North Hessen 👍
I've only managed to do the discs with a scotchbrite cloth as I don't have a garage at the moment....I'm not keen on dismantling motorcycles in public car parks....and I expect that the Germans have a law prohibiting it!
Hi Nick... LOL, yes they probably do. You can only really clean the pads with paper I described, and as you have Hayes calipers yes it's a little more work and definitely not easy on the side of the road. Apologies... I forgot to list the pad nearest to the oem, that would be the LA pad from Brembo.
Carl
@@justthewayitis thanks Carl.
Are all Hayes calipers recalled?
Hi Gary and Welcome. No not all BMW motorbikes with Hayes calipers have been recalled. My suggestion is as follows, ring or visit your nearest dealer and give them your Chassis number, they will then check that against the known database of affected bikes.
Also, you might like to physically check your front calipers for any signs of weeping or leaking (Check inside the caliper and outside along the vertical joint) as I describe in the episode. If you have any doubt… ask your dealer to check them for you. I hope this helps, Carl
Hi Carl, are EBC FA724HH sintered pads correct for R1250GS front pads?
Also what compound are they equivalent to?
HH Pads are roughly equivalent to SC Brembo pads.
As to part number you would need to check on the EBC website
Regards Carl
Also make sure which calipers you have fitted Hayes and Brembo are different
I have HAYES, are these pads for Brembo calipers?
ebcbrakes.com/part-finder/
Put your bike details in the above EBC pad Finder
I'm just shocked that anyone would put tire shine on motorcycle tires sidewall or not.
Hello GSXR.... yes will all do strange things to our bikes... lol. Best wishes Carl
I think the Brembo brake pads 07BB03SP rear doesn’t fit on the gs1200 adv 2018 ? Does it ?
Hi, I just checked online and Brembo say yes. 17-18 gs and gsa.
Go to the main Brembo home page and use the Motorrad Check features
@@justthewayitis thanks for the speedy reply ! Amazing ❤️👍🏼
Your welcome
Where do you purchase your Brembo pads from? The Brembo web site is a nothing but useless.
Hello and good morning
Yes the Brembo site is not easy to navigate I also buy from here.
www.omniaracing.net
You can select English and then search for your motorbike
Best wishes Carl
They also often have discounts.
Currently the code is Summer23 for an extra 5% onto of the normal discount
Carl