You are going to absolutely love It. Make sure to plan out your days and do lots of research. The shows on royalty are Broadway quality. Plan around the shows. Food is good just don’t have super high expectations for the free stuff. It’s free lol Other wise like I said. Shows shows shows. And walk around the ship. There’s time to see everything. It’s not about relaxing every single day. Go explore. It’s a lot of fun
@@SwayPromo Thank you for the tips! A little anxious about getting sea sick though. I just hope I can’t tell I’m off land for the most part. Any advice? We are staying aft on deck 10.
@@BridgittTravels you’ll be good anywhere on that ship. It’s too big to feel to much motion. As far as motion sickness. I suggest talking to your doctor and getting him to prescribe patches to use. I use those and never ever get motion sickness. Drememine though work for alotttt of people just start taking It like 3 hours in advance and take It every few hours and in the morning throughout the ship. Don’t wanna ruin your trip with motion sickness. But outside of that you will have a great timee. Trust me when I tell you. Do all the activities and shows! That’s how you get your moneys worth!!! And if you stop in the Bahamas. Rent a boat by the docking. Private boat for you and the fam around $400 for 3 hours drinks included and will take you to the isnalds and such. Beautiful. But trust me. Motion sickness you will be fine. Huge ship. No rocking basically.
we went on a big for the time ship back in 2017? it was crowded, everything was crowded and you almost had to plan your itinerary or miss out... I think this will be the same if not worse!! Too many people isn't a good thing..
i dont understand it either...especially when they own their own beach island that they are charging $39-89 bucks a person...thats insane..i can stay on the boat in the pool for "free"
What’s it got to do with being a cruise - why doesn’t the ship just stay in port? Whole place looks like a crowded nightmare- just wait until there is an emergency at sea - good luck getting 10000 people off. A balcony looking into the mall area - you must be kidding.
Thank you. This review is very helpful for those of us who haven’t traveled with Royal Caribbean in a decade and want you to see what’s out there - pretty comprehensive, yet succinct. Even though RCI want to create a ship and environments that meet everyone’s needs, I wonder if those of us who just want a relaxing break, would even find the right neighbourhood to achieve that! As for the limitations with evening entertainment, not being able to necessarily enjoy the shows or restaurants is also daunting. It’s bad enough on ‘regular’ cruises! 😄 Fortunately, it’s too expensive for me, for what you get for your money - but then, I’d be travelling from the UK - cheaper to just choose an All Inclusive vacation in one country in the Caribbean.
Just curious to know, if the food was just ok while they had execs there ~ when they are supposedly putting their best foot forward, how will it b during the FIRST official sailing and beyond. FOR ME the complimentary food can make or break a ship experience. I dont like to feel nor wanna feel that i have to pay more on top of a cruise just to have a better cruise food experience. For most cruises the complimentary options are good enough for me and i only do specialty if its a special occasion OR i jave OBC to spare.And as much as the Icon cruise prices are thats a very good deal breaker FOR ME.
I thought the same thing when I saw the aqua theater. How are people not going to be upset with how few of the 7000 passengers can actually enjoy it? Especially after paying that much money..🤷♂️
I totally agree! On an Oasis class, the Aqua theatre on the Oasis held 700 people, the Ice rink held 400 while the theatre was 900-1000. Even assuming the Icon is 15-20% larger and there are 2 shows a night, it won't even cover 1/4 of the passengers. Even if they have 4 shows (2X/night spread out on 2 nights of the cruise.), it will barely cover 50% of the passengers at most?
In harmony of seas they do have atleast 6 aqua shows in a week. I watched 3 times without a problem, no reservation in all times. It maybe a problem for family of more than 3. As they have the data from oasis class, this will workout eventually.
@@supertouring1 The difference between the first class Oasis of The Seas which was launched in 2008 and the Icon is not significant. 361.8 m (1,187 ft) overall VS Icon's 364.75 metres (1,196.7 ft) Those terms are more marketing as they are not extending the ships from one iteration to another by a lot. It's just so they could continue to say "the biggest cruise ship in the world". This won't make any major difference in any of the areas on the ship :)
Thank you. You didn't go OVERBOARD with details, like others... you went straight to the point. Everything in a short period of time. You covered everything! it was great. Even if it was longer .. I'd like it ❤ Thanks!
Prices will go down after it's been sailing for a year or so. Look at Wonder of the Seas or many of the Oasis class ships now. They're literally half the price of Icon or less. I'll probably be booking Icon in 2026 or 2027.
You can have 15 Atlantic crossings on Cunard Queen Mary Queens Grill class for $75,000!! That's double occupancy but not alcohol, specialty dining, or cigars in Churchill's Lounge.
it should. you get told right away what elevator is being selected so I would assume unless it's already on the deck your at you'll have pleanty of time. and that's coming from someone who needs a walker.
Yes, I have to look out for friends who have walkers and wheelchairs that want to go on ships for their vacations. I hope this new large cruise ship will work out the small brand new problems to get things operating well.😊
Even if it was cheap i would avoid this ship. Way too big to appeal to me. If I ever do go on a cruise it will be a much smaller ship. Thank you for the video!
The crowns edge price actually got lowered to $39. Kyle Pallo confirmed in his video. I guess they listened to some of the complaints. $90 is outrageous
JoJo sent Krista on the “crowns edge” she had a great time. I’m glad they lowered their price. 👍 I wish you were on board with Kyle and JoJo. Lauren would have enjoyed the girls company. Thanks for your content. Congratulations on your new travel agent job. You’ve traveled so many cruises, you’re going to be an asset to their cruising bookings. If you end up hosting a cruise for the travel agency, will they let you vlog? I hope they do. Thanks for your content. 👍
Price is only outrageous if nobody is willing to pay it. The fact that it’s sold out for 2024 shows that it’s priced right. They are trying to get their money back for the ship as soon as possible. Once that happens the prices will come down. I’m waiting for 2025/2026 and get the suite for the current ocean view price
As a comparison, Mariner's capacity is 4000, but it has 2 pool areas (the main pool is split in two, but it is one 'area'). One main pool area, and another restricted to adults only. For 7,000 guests, Icon offers 7 distinct pool areas. Icon has far more offerings to accommodate passengers without congestion.
@@iptvclub1575 The size doesn't bother me. I've never taken 7 days cruises and I think that's a little too much. Also, I have a little dog and I don't want to be away for too many days. He goes to a pets hotel when I'm away.
not really tho. THe ship is massive so you dont notice it as much . Maybe around the pool areas. We were just on Adventure of Seas and didnt feel crowded exept for pool
Just came off Wonder, the only Oasis Class we hadn't been on. And we're done with the large ships!! It's totally a theme park at sea now! Anything Freedom Class or smaller we love! I'm done with "6 Flags" cruising.
I'm borderline with it. It's absolutely massive, but it really just feels like an evolution of the Oasis class of ships. I'm worried that all the venues on the ship once the evening hits will require constant reservations to enjoy. I like to wing it on vacation, so I'm not entirely sure it's for me.
Agree. Went on a short cruise on Wonder of the Seas and while it was spacious, all of the shows and trivia games were standing room only. It’s not like they made the bars bigger for the larger ship. Things to consider.
Exactly. There should be a ton of "winging it" on vacations. Too much "having to be at a certain place at a certain time" is too much like like the real world that I'm escaping for that period of time.
I agree, having to plan out your entire vacation night by night just takes you out of your vacation and cruise. You’re supposed to be relaxing not fighting for a spot.
In what world does the idea of paying that much money to be in a glorified shopping mall with 10000 other passengers appealing? That's the very definition of a nightmare. With the price for one person, you can bring a whole family to a paradise in Vietnam for 2 weeks in a luxury resort, delicious food and excursions included 😂
It just goes to show how diverse the human race is. To me (and clearly you) it is the holiday from hell (the thought of an interior balcony looking down on a play area rammed with squealing kids makes me shudder) But to others this is their ultimate dream vacation. Give me classy, sedate old Cunard every time.
No desire to go on it. Went on Oasis of the Seas a few years back and knew then not a fan of “large ships.” I love smaller ones. More personal service imho, and I like the feel of the sea, not a floating hotel/mall/theatre. Just my preference.
I’ve listened to at least five different RUclipsrs/travel agents that were on that cruise and yours was the most comprehensive and informative. Thanks.
This ship seems dark and heavily shadowed on the interior promenade, central park, and surf side areas. Quite the mall vibe around the pearl, unsure if I like it or not. Like Carnival’s Mardi Gras, Celebration, and Jubilee the central atrium theater has terrible seating and simply not enough. I don’t understand why these cruise lines put so few seats in such popular spaces.
When we sailed on Celebration the poor seating in the theater was a really annoying drawback. The way they designed that theater space is awful, for half of the seating you can't even the see the stage.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 100% Celebration Central has a terrible layout. Great concept and excellent shows. But the fact that 1/2 of the seating can’t see up and must watch from TVs is ridiculous. My time on the Celebration was definitely hindered by this. The amount of time we wasted sitting waiting for shows just so we could have a good viewing angle is honestly a little depressing.
This looks like my idea of hell. Why be on a boat if you want a mall/resort vibe? I don't get it. I want to always know I am on a mfg boat. Not my cup of tea but it is someone's. Thank you for the view into this ship.
My dentist's office has a destination elevator and has had one for many years. Not so new. This ship looks like a hot mess to me, but hey, lots of people love theme parks.
In the "you got to be kidding" department. You could be easily be spending over $5,000 for a week in a small cabin in a screaming kid area, and then they CHARGE you more to use one of their rides. Why would you EVER consider doing this. Why do you think this would be a pleasurable vacation. I will not get even close to this ship. 3==
I think they might have priced themselves out of affordability and which they supposed to be a family cruise and maybe people 40 and up my payable to Force of the prices down either needs to be some legislation or people just not book on icon of the season till the price start dropping
@@kevwwong But Royal Caribbean isn't Disney. Plus Disney does not nickelyn dime everyone on the ship like Royal Caribbean does I think alcoholic drinking packages and one dining venue is extra charge on a Disney ship but everything else is Included in the fair. While krabi can charge those prices when there's no specialty dining all venues are a complimentary all non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary walking around The Crown and anchor on icon of the seas is complimentary and this fall is complimentary then they can charge Disney prices
@@darploin5071You are right. Royal isn't Disney. They are more like Cedar Fair. And prices at those parks can get pretty ridiculous nowadays. As for nickel and diming, it's a bit of a myth that DCL fanatics like to perpetuate. Disney nickel and dimes. They simply don't aggressively nickel and dime, because they are priced high enough that they don't need to. And the only comparable thing Disney includes that Royal doesn't is free soda. They charge you for alcohol. They charge you for drink tasting seminars. They charge you for bingo. They charge you to style your hair. But they won't charge kids anything for the specialty restaurants, because they're not allowed there. The justification for the high price is that Disney can provide something that Royal and Carnival and NCL never will - Disney. You get meet and greets like you do at the park. You get Disney theming. You get Disney-themed musicals. If you love going to the Disney theme parks, and the "Disney Experience", this is the cruise line for you.
@@kevwwong I'm not a Disney fan I think the current Administration of the company has been pissed 42 the point where they have nothing but flops for movies and the only thing that doesn't make it many money is there parks and their Cruise ships. And no they don't nickel and dime you on a Disney cruise ship but they do in the parks
@@kevwwong Other than sure Sure excursions Disney does not charge for activities on the ship. What I'm saying is icon of the seas is asking for Disney prices and still wanting to nickel and dine you
I thought cruising was supposed to be relaxing, so then 1 can getaway and have a holiday, but being on that is nothing but noise on all decks,you willcome off that cruise,worse than when you got on the ship,you got music everywhere you go and its loud and crowded. Ive seen RUclipsrs daily vlogs. The ship might be new and shiny,but those cabins are getting smaller every time they build the latest ship.
Icon Of The Seas is to large to much, if I'm cruising I don't want to feel as if I'm at a theme park or a mall. It's just a lot going on and for me It's kind of a turn off.
Too large, not cruising as I remember it (I've been cruising sing 1991). The emphasis has shifted from quiet and relaxing to crowded and gaudy. Every thing requires a reservation. The reason I started cruising was to get away from the hustle and bushel of reservations required type of vacation.
This ship would not be for me. I am 60 yrs old and would not use the slides, pools, children's activities, etc. I cruise on NCL which is the right speed for me.
I thought I saw a video of you saying you cancelled. It's sad to see so many negative comments. Well here's my 2 cents. We went during Mother's day and it was the BEST trip. At 54 and 55 my hubby and I loved being in the thick of the fun, but we also found sooo many quite spots on the ship went we wanted a peaceful laid back atmosphere. The seating on the track deck, pearl cafe, and the overlook behind the aquadome were all so chill. It NEVER felt too crowded during sailing not even when there were dance parties in the royal promenade. We loved the hideaway area, the water slides, ice show, water show, elemental and especially the wizard of oz...done perfectly! Luckily we found seats because every show was booked the day we embarked! We even caught a laugh or two at the headlining comedy show. Destination elevators were not slow at all and worked like a dream. Disembarkation was a messy, crowded, long wait initially but once they started letting off, it went fast.I cannot wait to get back on. She ship is sooo big and spread out. Plus I loved that it was new and clean. Just may have to bring the whole family next time, but on Star. My grandkids would have a blast!
I’ve been on 14 cruises so I’m a pretty seasoned cruiser. The thing that always annoys me is the nickel and dimeing guests. It’s expensive to cruise it should be ALL inclusive. Also allow enough shows for everyone to see.
I saw a comment about Kyle Pallo and wanted to add something. Kyle asked an employee at Crown's Edge who said that it's $49 on sea days and $39 on port days. Also, Kyle mentioned in his video, which I found interesting, that he heard somewhere that Crown's Edge was originally supposed to be free before Royal decided to add a charge to it.
I was honestly surprised that it was originally set as free. Something like that needs to run perfectly, every time. You cannot afford to have issues anywhere along the way. And if it's free, Crown's Edge will be packed non-stop. With nonstop usage, there will be an expectation of a faster turnaround time. And on something like this, the shorter the turnaround, the greater chance of something getting missed. But a price point of $40 will discourage people from using the attraction all the time, so that will likely reduce usage to an acceptable level. And of course, provide a little extra cheddar to Royal's bottom line.
Not true. The zipline is similar in the Oasis class, and lines are expected but not that bad. Zipline is free. Even the iFly skydiving simulator on Quantum class ships are free. What Royal guests expected was the same as the other amusement venues...free 1 time for everyone with appointments that have to be booked b4 being sold out, with optional extended sessions (2 times instead of 1 for this for example) that have an additional cost... and those costs are HIGH. Even Flowrider is free, with optional paid extended sessions and private lesson sessions.
Great video. Good and honest. I like your style. Keep up the good work. But 75k a week for a cruise is a bit much. And sold out for an entire? I wonder how many RC execs and dignitaries who are getting freeor discounted fares are padding that number?
75K for a suite means they are not gearing to the average cruisers, RCL trying to upscale. But how could you crowded shows with standing rooms with half capacity. It will be interesting to see how that works since RCL is considered budget cruise line along with CCL and NCL.
I am excited in going on my first RCL cruise! Icon of the Seas will be my first RCL cruise on February 10, 2024 Superbowl cruise. However, it will be my 60th overall cruise since I started cruising in August 2015. I have early dining at 5:30PM, and would like to know if I need to make reservations to attend shows at the Theater and Aqua shows. That destination elevator was implemented on Carnival Panorama and people would get impatient and just walked haha. After Icon, I'll walk over to MSc for a side-to-side cruise on board Seascape. Thanks for your informational videos!
Icon looks like a lot of fun for older preteens and teens. Competing with Disney's younger demographics may be a challenge, but Icon seems perfect for 10 to very patient 50-year-olds, and the puppy is a happy addition! By the way, Congratulations, Justin, on your luxury travel agent gig! You'll be great! 🤩🤩Hopefully, we'll see you this fall on the Crystal Serenity. Walking the promenade deck 7...the happiest place on earth.😊
The absolute horror and pure selfishness. Every onboard visit to a restaurant, every overnight stay, every visit to the swimming pool does not benefit the locals. No wonder that the people in the place where these fast food tourists dock are not welcomed. Traveling should, among other things, be good for getting to know the country and its people and not just running around town and then being entertained on the ship. Not to mention the ecological madness. The cityscape also suffered. when I think of my last visit to Lisbon. There are two huge boats lying there and spoiling the panorama of the city. Nobody really needs something like that. Take a “sensible” vacation again!
i remember when he said he would not go on icon ots because he said it was not worth the price THEN he gets it for free and completely changed his agenda and reviews. this dude is a cheap sell out and his reviews are disingenuous and have lost all credit.
It is certainly impressive that two additional Icons are in firm order with the possibility of two options for a total of five in the class, only one less than the Oasis class.
I sailed at full capacity! As a handicapped traveler the Icon was fantastic! Other than getting down to the Hideaway adults only area it, the size was wonderful it was over 6800 people sailing and it never felt like it. I was able to still see the Aqua action show even though sold out! So many options to eat other than windjammer and main dining room. I brought seasonings for the food, didn't need it...I was not disappointed and will be sailing again!
Very comprehensive, informative, and fair review. Icon isn’t my cup of tea - I prefer midsized ships like Holland America and Celebrity - but you made icon seem a bit more palatable.
I was on the same cruise! I'm right behind you in 0:56 with the balloons - that's too funny! Have a the video that I just posted today - maybe you will see yourself. Small world!
@@sidneyshaw9205 It was an inaugural sailing for the industry people and everything was included. It's not like that on a regular sailing. You have your accommodation and meals included.
I am not a fan of these huge ships, I’ll stick with smaller vessels like the Vision of the Seas and other cruise lines like Princess which I also enjoy.
Beautiful ship however, too much ship for us. There were more people on you sailing than in the entire town I live in. LOL. I hate the tiny comedy venues on newer ships. It does look like there is something for everyone!
I hate crowds, bad food, queuing, noisy drunk people, feeling confined, not being able to get away from people. I don’t think I’m going to get a cheaper cruise!
so we have to wait until you go when it has 10K people on board to hear just how good / bad the crowd situation is.... you told us about the comedy club and aqua show... (Crowded) but the buffet, food areas?
This ship would be a nightmare for me. Like a shopping mall at Christmas or Walmart on Black Friday. Aside from holding too many people the venues seem small. With very little seating for the crowds that will want to see the shows and play the games. 7000 people trying to eat dinner between 5 and 8? No way. Another very real concern is porting. What happens when 5 or 6 ships from all different cruiselines are in port at the same time. There could be 20k people trying to do the same excursions, eat at the same restaurants, swim at the same beaches all at the same time. No to mention the environmental impact on the beaches, harbors and wildlife. How many people handling sloths is too many? I bet these ships get banned in some countries. The crowds would be too much for the cities, transportation, and citizens to handle.
I believe the price for crowns edge is lowered to $39-$49 ( Via Kyle pallo ) most recent vlog due to it having a low amount of sales . Not sure that’s only happening for his cruise tho
Yeah, they're gonna need to bring those prices down if they don't want a bunch of grumpy faces in the MDR or Buffet that wanted to go specialty dining and didn't get a reservation. Because with those prices, the whole ship if gonna be fighting for reservations and not just one half, since nobody who can afford to go on board is gonna mind a few dollars extra for a fancy meal. And if they're gonna keep prices at this level, they had better gone with the virgin strategy of specialty dining only...
At what point is it too extravagant and too big. This may take away from the experience of being at sea IMO when you technically don't feel like you're at sea
Just got off the ship last Saturday. I was surprised by how spacious the ship actually is. To me, the ship felt less crowded than an Oasis Class Ship. Plenty of room to walk and activities to do that makes the spaces not so full. I would say the only area that seemed crowded was Windjammer during peak hours. We decided to wake up earlier and problem fixed. We had a great time. Most of the teenagers and kids spend time in the slide and main pool. Other than the adult only area, there were pools on deck 17 that were not so crowded. If you have the opportunity go on it and see it first hand. You will be surprised.
Hi Jay ! It’s a bit much ! We prefer a more classy, elegant cruise ships ! Not a theme park on the water ! But it gives an option for all of us ! We prefer the Princess Regal class ! Thx for sharing 🥰
Nice ship. though it is for families, loud kids etc like an amusement park on seas, not my cup of tea so not a ship I would ever use. I am more interested how something that tall, top heavy and skinny will handle the oceans during rough weather.
One of the things that I absolutely loved about Oasis-class ships is that they have two flowriders which helps a lot with crowd-control. I was shocked to find out that Icon-class only has one which will make it very crowded there.
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Booked a surf side family suite for 8,300 almost 2 years ago, it’ll be our first cruise ever. Can’t wait to finally sail this April.
Now that's a good first cruise, congrats!
You are going to absolutely love It. Make sure to plan out your days and do lots of research. The shows on royalty are Broadway quality. Plan around the shows. Food is good just don’t have super high expectations for the free stuff. It’s free lol
Other wise like I said. Shows shows shows. And walk around the ship. There’s time to see everything. It’s not about relaxing every single day. Go explore. It’s a lot of fun
This as your first cruise is gonna be awesome!!!
@@SwayPromo Thank you for the tips! A little anxious about getting sea sick though. I just hope I can’t tell I’m off land for the most part. Any advice? We are staying aft on deck 10.
@@BridgittTravels you’ll be good anywhere on that ship. It’s too big to feel to much motion. As far as motion sickness. I suggest talking to your doctor and getting him to prescribe patches to use. I use those and never ever get motion sickness. Drememine though work for alotttt of people just start taking It like 3 hours in advance and take It every few hours and in the morning throughout the ship. Don’t wanna ruin your trip with motion sickness. But outside of that you will have a great timee. Trust me when I tell you. Do all the activities and shows! That’s how you get your moneys worth!!! And if you stop in the Bahamas. Rent a boat by the docking. Private boat for you and the fam around $400 for 3 hours drinks included and will take you to the isnalds and such. Beautiful. But trust me. Motion sickness you will be fine. Huge ship. No rocking basically.
I just can't believe it was only sailing a little over half capacity, yet there was no room to watch the shows. This screams disaster. 😬
Tickets were not available to the general public. Half capacity half staff
Half seating.
@@dekdelboy if you watch the video he said the rooms were full. It had nothing to do with tickets. It had to do with how many seats are in the room.
we went on a big for the time ship back in 2017? it was crowded, everything was crowded and you almost had to plan your itinerary or miss out... I think this will be the same if not worse!! Too many people isn't a good thing..
This ship is gaudy and I feel everything should be included there should be no extra fees it's like a stick up without a gun.
i dont understand it either...especially when they own their own beach island that they are charging $39-89 bucks a person...thats insane..i can stay on the boat in the pool for "free"
Amusement parks,, restaurants ,,motel rooms shoppin malls,,theaters etc etc all in one on the sea,,,thats what i sea in the icon of the see😮
What’s it got to do with being a cruise - why doesn’t the ship just stay in port? Whole place looks like a crowded nightmare- just wait until there is an emergency at sea - good luck getting 10000 people off. A balcony looking into the mall area - you must be kidding.
Great video Jay!! (Can’t wait to sail on Icon in October!!) We love cruising!! Can’t wait to see more!! Thank you!!!😊❤
Thank you. This review is very helpful for those of us who haven’t traveled with Royal Caribbean in a decade and want you to see what’s out there - pretty comprehensive, yet succinct.
Even though RCI want to create a ship and environments that meet everyone’s needs, I wonder if those of us who just want a relaxing break, would even find the right neighbourhood to achieve that!
As for the limitations with evening entertainment, not being able to necessarily enjoy the shows or restaurants is also daunting. It’s bad enough on ‘regular’ cruises! 😄
Fortunately, it’s too expensive for me, for what you get for your money - but then, I’d be travelling from the UK - cheaper to just choose an All Inclusive vacation in one country in the Caribbean.
Doing B2Bs on Icon in April. Looks like we’re going to need both weeks.
Be interested in a review when there's the general public on board. This was a very nice overview of the ship.
The boat looks amazing but the prices are pretty high. 90 bucks for a 4 second zip line is obnoxious.
That neighborhood is going to get wet on rainy days. That might be a nightmare to keep dry.
Imagine, the folks from the Titanic crusining days on board a ship like this!
I met a lady who worked for a Travel Agency who got invited to sail also. Said it was 10k for her
Just curious to know, if the food was just ok while they had execs there ~ when they are supposedly putting their best foot forward, how will it b during the FIRST official sailing and beyond.
FOR ME the complimentary food can make or break a ship experience. I dont like to feel nor wanna feel that i have to pay more on top of a cruise just to have a better cruise food experience. For most cruises the complimentary options are good enough for me and i only do specialty if its a special occasion OR i jave OBC to spare.And as much as the Icon cruise prices are thats a very good deal breaker FOR ME.
90.00 per person for that Zipline!!?
For all the people who are saying they would never go on this ship because it's just to big, Thank you! More room for the rest of us!😉
Great. Enjoy yourself.
I thought the same thing when I saw the aqua theater. How are people not going to be upset with how few of the 7000 passengers can actually enjoy it? Especially after paying that much money..🤷♂️
I totally agree! On an Oasis class, the Aqua theatre on the Oasis held 700 people, the Ice rink held 400 while the theatre was 900-1000. Even assuming the Icon is 15-20% larger and there are 2 shows a night, it won't even cover 1/4 of the passengers. Even if they have 4 shows (2X/night spread out on 2 nights of the cruise.), it will barely cover 50% of the passengers at most?
You have to make reservations ahead of time
In harmony of seas they do have atleast 6 aqua shows in a week. I watched 3 times without a problem, no reservation in all times. It maybe a problem for family of more than 3. As they have the data from oasis class, this will workout eventually.
@@supertouring1 The difference between the first class Oasis of The Seas which was launched in 2008 and the Icon is not significant. 361.8 m (1,187 ft) overall VS Icon's 364.75 metres (1,196.7 ft) Those terms are more marketing as they are not extending the ships from one iteration to another by a lot. It's just so they could continue to say "the biggest cruise ship in the world". This won't make any major difference in any of the areas on the ship :)
@@supertouring1shows almost every night, 2 per night
Thank you. You didn't go OVERBOARD with details, like others... you went straight to the point. Everything in a short period of time. You covered everything! it was great. Even if it was longer .. I'd like it ❤ Thanks!
I try! Thank you so much for the feedback!
I saw another video on Icon and I was going to watch it, until I saw it was 1.5+ hours
I agree very detailed and made very important points of when the ship is at full capacity
Yeah, those prices will definitely not work for me or my family. See you in 5-6 years RC Icon of the Seas. ✌🏾
That's exactly how I feel! When I eventually go on this ship it will be 5-6 years from now.
Prices will go down after it's been sailing for a year or so. Look at Wonder of the Seas or many of the Oasis class ships now. They're literally half the price of Icon or less. I'll probably be booking Icon in 2026 or 2027.
Wonder of the Seas and other Icon class ships give you all the entertainment for half the price and those ships are only 0.6% smaller.
Wait the til the next biggest thing comes out then it’s my time to see the Icon haha
Me too......... I can't drop $10K on a family VC for 7 days.... it's cheaper to go to Dustin and rent a condo for $5K
75,000 a week for a townhome suite??? Man that’s crazy
Crazy that it’s already sold out for the year.
You can have 15 Atlantic crossings on Cunard Queen Mary Queens Grill class for $75,000!!
That's double occupancy but not alcohol, specialty dining, or cigars in Churchill's Lounge.
Damn people got money out there lol (not me lol)
it's actually more than that
I ain't got that kind of bread some do 😂😂😂😂❤❤❤😊
I hope the Destination elevator gives Seniors and those with disabilities enough time to get to them.
it should. you get told right away what elevator is being selected so I would assume unless it's already on the deck your at you'll have pleanty of time. and that's coming from someone who needs a walker.
That is one advantage of these elevators. People can't randomly stand in front of one anymore.
Yes, I have to look out for friends who have walkers and wheelchairs that want to go on ships for their vacations. I hope this new large cruise ship will work out the small brand new problems to get things operating well.😊
Destination elevator??? Does it go to Cozumel?
That's awesome!😂😂
That's good!!!!!
Fantasy Island Wishes! 😅😂
Hilarious
Even if it was cheap i would avoid this ship. Way too big to appeal to me. If I ever do go on a cruise it will be a much smaller ship. Thank you for the video!
Same here. Would love A older smaller boat.
Same here. Would love A older smaller boat.
Smaller ships aren't fun. U know nothing about cruises
The crowns edge price actually got lowered to $39. Kyle Pallo confirmed in his video. I guess they listened to some of the complaints. $90 is outrageous
Good to know. I agree that is ridiculous
$39 on per days, $49 on sea days
90 bucks is, like, a theme park ticket lol. I wouldn’t pay more than 20 bucks for something like this. Even that’s pushing it.
JoJo sent Krista on the “crowns edge” she had a great time. I’m glad they lowered their price. 👍 I wish you were on board with Kyle and JoJo. Lauren would have enjoyed the girls company. Thanks for your content. Congratulations on your new travel agent job. You’ve traveled so many cruises, you’re going to be an asset to their cruising bookings. If you end up hosting a cruise for the travel agency, will they let you vlog? I hope they do. Thanks for your content. 👍
Kylie Pallo is NOT a trust resource. 😂
$90 for a not even 5 minute experience? Yeah no, thats too much.
The ship is beyond huge. 7,000 people is too many on a ship. I couldn't. The price for the family suite is outrageous.😲
Price is only outrageous if nobody is willing to pay it. The fact that it’s sold out for 2024 shows that it’s priced right. They are trying to get their money back for the ship as soon as possible. Once that happens the prices will come down. I’m waiting for 2025/2026 and get the suite for the current ocean view price
As a comparison, Mariner's capacity is 4000, but it has 2 pool areas (the main pool is split in two, but it is one 'area'). One main pool area, and another restricted to adults only. For 7,000 guests, Icon offers 7 distinct pool areas. Icon has far more offerings to accommodate passengers without congestion.
@@iptvclub1575 The size doesn't bother me. I've never taken 7 days cruises and I think that's a little too much. Also, I have a little dog and I don't want to be away for too many days. He goes to a pets hotel when I'm away.
You wouldn’t really notice all of those people really. The ship is like a small city
not really tho. THe ship is massive so you dont notice it as much . Maybe around the pool areas. We were just on Adventure of Seas and didnt feel crowded exept for pool
Just came off Wonder, the only Oasis Class we hadn't been on. And we're done with the large ships!! It's totally a theme park at sea now! Anything Freedom Class or smaller we love! I'm done with "6 Flags" cruising.
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Pleebian cruising 😂
Exactly my thoughts. I don't go to amusement parks on land, so why would I go to one on a ship. The ship looks hideous and tacky.
same here big ship but not much space available for us to enjoy shows and eat
I'm borderline with it. It's absolutely massive, but it really just feels like an evolution of the Oasis class of ships. I'm worried that all the venues on the ship once the evening hits will require constant reservations to enjoy. I like to wing it on vacation, so I'm not entirely sure it's for me.
Agree. Went on a short cruise on Wonder of the Seas and while it was spacious, all of the shows and trivia games were standing room only. It’s not like they made the bars bigger for the larger ship. Things to consider.
Exactly. There should be a ton of "winging it" on vacations. Too much "having to be at a certain place at a certain time" is too much like like the real world that I'm escaping for that period of time.
It's not for anyone with common sense. You'll be paying more for a less exclusive experience.
I agree, having to plan out your entire vacation night by night just takes you out of your vacation and cruise. You’re supposed to be relaxing not fighting for a spot.
In what world does the idea of paying that much money to be in a glorified shopping mall with 10000 other passengers appealing? That's the very definition of a nightmare. With the price for one person, you can bring a whole family to a paradise in Vietnam for 2 weeks in a luxury resort, delicious food and excursions included 😂
It just goes to show how diverse the human race is. To me (and clearly you) it is the holiday from hell (the thought of an interior balcony looking down on a play area rammed with squealing kids makes me shudder) But to others this is their ultimate dream vacation. Give me classy, sedate old Cunard every time.
@@gerardmackay8909 well said! Have a wonderful end of January 😁
$10k/person/week nightmare. A vacation that compares to a Black Friday week at the mall. Ugh...
This ship will no doubt be a frenzy of screaming kids and families; not my type of cruise.
No desire to go on it. Went on Oasis of the Seas a few years back and knew then not a fan of “large ships.” I love smaller ones. More personal service imho, and I like the feel of the sea, not a floating hotel/mall/theatre. Just my preference.
I dont see an incentive to pay for the "private island" at $39-89 dollars...especially when they own the private island,lol.
just certain activities on it not basic use of island
The island is FREE, select things cost extra.
I’ve listened to at least five different RUclipsrs/travel agents that were on that cruise and yours was the most comprehensive and informative. Thanks.
This ship seems dark and heavily shadowed on the interior promenade, central park, and surf side areas. Quite the mall vibe around the pearl, unsure if I like it or not.
Like Carnival’s Mardi Gras, Celebration, and Jubilee the central atrium theater has terrible seating and simply not enough. I don’t understand why these cruise lines put so few seats in such popular spaces.
When we sailed on Celebration the poor seating in the theater was a really annoying drawback. The way they designed that theater space is awful, for half of the seating you can't even the see the stage.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 100% Celebration Central has a terrible layout. Great concept and excellent shows. But the fact that 1/2 of the seating can’t see up and must watch from TVs is ridiculous. My time on the Celebration was definitely hindered by this. The amount of time we wasted sitting waiting for shows just so we could have a good viewing angle is honestly a little depressing.
@@bflo716Oh wow! Thanks for the heads-up 💯
This looks like my idea of hell. Why be on a boat if you want a mall/resort vibe? I don't get it. I want to always know I am on a mfg boat. Not my cup of tea but it is someone's. Thank you for the view into this ship.
My dentist's office has a destination elevator and has had one for many years. Not so new. This ship looks like a hot mess to me, but hey, lots of people love theme parks.
It does! Too much going on!
I can’t wait to get on It
These massive ships are taking away the excitement of the port of calls.
In the "you got to be kidding" department. You could be easily be spending over $5,000 for a week in a small cabin in a screaming kid area, and then they CHARGE you more to use one of their rides. Why would you EVER consider doing this. Why do you think this would be a pleasurable vacation. I will not get even close to this ship.
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exactly, 100 bucks for the ropes course is ridiculous...i cant imagine anyone paying to do that.
I like that it's huge and has lots of stuff to do but it's so expensive!
It's half a car length longer than Wonder of the Seas...... It's not groundbreaking at all except for the price.
@@spudhandle It's not the length that makes the largest. It's much wider than Wonder allowing for a much bigger surface area.
I think they might have priced themselves out of affordability and which they supposed to be a family cruise and maybe people 40 and up my payable to Force of the prices down either needs to be some legislation or people just not book on icon of the season till the price start dropping
You say that, yet people have been paying high fares on Disney for years.
@@kevwwong But Royal Caribbean isn't Disney. Plus Disney does not nickelyn dime everyone on the ship like Royal Caribbean does I think alcoholic drinking packages and one dining venue is extra charge on a Disney ship but everything else is Included in the fair. While krabi can charge those prices when there's no specialty dining all venues are a complimentary all non-alcoholic beverages are complimentary walking around The Crown and anchor on icon of the seas is complimentary and this fall is complimentary then they can charge Disney prices
@@darploin5071You are right. Royal isn't Disney. They are more like Cedar Fair. And prices at those parks can get pretty ridiculous nowadays.
As for nickel and diming, it's a bit of a myth that DCL fanatics like to perpetuate. Disney nickel and dimes. They simply don't aggressively nickel and dime, because they are priced high enough that they don't need to.
And the only comparable thing Disney includes that Royal doesn't is free soda. They charge you for alcohol. They charge you for drink tasting seminars. They charge you for bingo. They charge you to style your hair. But they won't charge kids anything for the specialty restaurants, because they're not allowed there.
The justification for the high price is that Disney can provide something that Royal and Carnival and NCL never will - Disney.
You get meet and greets like you do at the park. You get Disney theming. You get Disney-themed musicals. If you love going to the Disney theme parks, and the "Disney Experience", this is the cruise line for you.
@@kevwwong I'm not a Disney fan I think the current Administration of the company has been pissed 42 the point where they have nothing but flops for movies and the only thing that doesn't make it many money is there parks and their Cruise ships. And no they don't nickel and dime you on a Disney cruise ship but they do in the parks
@@kevwwong Other than sure Sure excursions Disney does not charge for activities on the ship. What I'm saying is icon of the seas is asking for Disney prices and still wanting to nickel and dine you
Does not seem to be a ship of those of us over 60. Seems like they are going for families and 20 to 30 year olds.
You gave a great presentation.
Absolutely amazing footage that captures the size of that place. It's so massive that I'd consider it to be a floating city. :)
Nobody’s going to mention the dead lady at 7:58, already drank too much, lol
See her now😂 good eye
Kathy is having a great cruise!
I'll pass on that one. Its way to big.
I thought cruising was supposed to be relaxing, so then 1 can getaway and have a holiday, but being on that is nothing but noise on all decks,you willcome off that cruise,worse than when you got on the ship,you got music everywhere you go and its loud and crowded. Ive seen RUclipsrs daily vlogs. The ship might be new and shiny,but those cabins are getting smaller every time they build the latest ship.
That's the whole point of a ship like this. If you want a relaxing quiet cruise then you can go on a different ship or cruise line
You’re basing the entirety of cruising off of one ship.
Reel it in.
Thanks for the review! my family is going on in March so I was very eager to hear your analysis
Icon Of The Seas is to large to much, if I'm cruising I don't want to feel as if I'm at a theme park or a mall. It's just a lot going on and for me It's kind of a turn off.
This is just really proving that royal is not for me. Great review!
Thank you for watching!
Too large, not cruising as I remember it (I've been cruising sing 1991). The emphasis has shifted from quiet and relaxing to crowded and gaudy. Every thing requires a reservation. The reason I started cruising was to get away from the hustle and bushel of reservations required type of vacation.
This ship would not be for me. I am 60 yrs old and would not use the slides, pools, children's activities, etc. I cruise on NCL which is the right speed for me.
I thought I saw a video of you saying you cancelled. It's sad to see so many negative comments. Well here's my 2 cents. We went during Mother's day and it was the BEST trip. At 54 and 55 my hubby and I loved being in the thick of the fun, but we also found sooo many quite spots on the ship went we wanted a peaceful laid back atmosphere. The seating on the track deck, pearl cafe, and the overlook behind the aquadome were all so chill. It NEVER felt too crowded during sailing not even when there were dance parties in the royal promenade. We loved the hideaway area, the water slides, ice show, water show, elemental and especially the wizard of oz...done perfectly! Luckily we found seats because every show was booked the day we embarked! We even caught a laugh or two at the headlining comedy show. Destination elevators were not slow at all and worked like a dream. Disembarkation was a messy, crowded, long wait initially but once they started letting off, it went fast.I cannot wait to get back on. She ship is sooo big and spread out. Plus I loved that it was new and clean. Just may have to bring the whole family next time, but on Star. My grandkids would have a blast!
I’ve been on 14 cruises so I’m a pretty seasoned cruiser. The thing that always annoys me is the nickel and dimeing guests. It’s expensive to cruise it should be ALL inclusive. Also allow enough shows for everyone to see.
I saw a comment about Kyle Pallo and wanted to add something. Kyle asked an employee at Crown's Edge who said that it's $49 on sea days and $39 on port days. Also, Kyle mentioned in his video, which I found interesting, that he heard somewhere that Crown's Edge was originally supposed to be free before Royal decided to add a charge to it.
I was honestly surprised that it was originally set as free. Something like that needs to run perfectly, every time. You cannot afford to have issues anywhere along the way. And if it's free, Crown's Edge will be packed non-stop. With nonstop usage, there will be an expectation of a faster turnaround time. And on something like this, the shorter the turnaround, the greater chance of something getting missed.
But a price point of $40 will discourage people from using the attraction all the time, so that will likely reduce usage to an acceptable level. And of course, provide a little extra cheddar to Royal's bottom line.
Not true. The zipline is similar in the Oasis class, and lines are expected but not that bad. Zipline is free. Even the iFly skydiving simulator on Quantum class ships are free. What Royal guests expected was the same as the other amusement venues...free 1 time for everyone with appointments that have to be booked b4 being sold out, with optional extended sessions (2 times instead of 1 for this for example) that have an additional cost... and those costs are HIGH. Even Flowrider is free, with optional paid extended sessions and private lesson sessions.
it looks tacky...sorry but not for me
Seems like a lot of money for a cruise
Great video. Good and honest. I like your style. Keep up the good work. But 75k a week for a cruise is a bit much. And sold out for an entire? I wonder how many RC execs and dignitaries who are getting freeor discounted fares are padding that number?
Please don't refer to the food as free😆😆
75K for a suite means they are not gearing to the average cruisers, RCL trying to upscale. But how could you crowded shows with standing rooms with half capacity.
It will be interesting to see how that works since RCL is considered budget cruise line along with CCL and NCL.
I am excited in going on my first RCL cruise! Icon of the Seas will be my first RCL cruise on February 10, 2024 Superbowl cruise. However, it will be my 60th overall cruise since I started cruising in August 2015. I have early dining at 5:30PM, and would like to know if I need to make reservations to attend shows at the Theater and Aqua shows. That destination elevator was implemented on Carnival Panorama and people would get impatient and just walked haha. After Icon, I'll walk over to MSc for a side-to-side cruise on board Seascape. Thanks for your informational videos!
Wish the Icon and Star OTS weren't expensive AF to book
I have a hard time walking around a super walmart. I think I'll stick to a smaller ship 😲
Icon looks like a lot of fun for older preteens and teens. Competing with Disney's younger demographics may be a challenge, but Icon seems perfect for 10 to very patient 50-year-olds, and the puppy is a happy addition!
By the way, Congratulations, Justin, on your luxury travel agent gig! You'll be great! 🤩🤩Hopefully, we'll see you this fall on the Crystal Serenity. Walking the promenade deck 7...the happiest place on earth.😊
Wow. Just seems like a huge tourist trap. Literally. They have you trapped onboard and then charge you outrageous fees for absolutely everything.
The absolute horror and pure selfishness. Every onboard visit to a restaurant, every overnight stay, every visit to the swimming pool does not benefit the locals. No wonder that the people in the place where these fast food tourists dock are not welcomed.
Traveling should, among other things, be good for getting to know the country and its people and not just running around town and then being entertained on the ship. Not to mention the ecological madness.
The cityscape also suffered. when I think of my last visit to Lisbon. There are two huge boats lying there and spoiling the panorama of the city. Nobody really needs something like that. Take a “sensible” vacation again!
i remember when he said he would not go on icon ots because he said it was not worth the price THEN he gets it for free and completely changed his agenda and reviews. this dude is a cheap sell out and his reviews are disingenuous and have lost all credit.
It is certainly impressive that two additional Icons are in firm order with the possibility of two options for a total of five in the class, only one less than the Oasis class.
I always appreciate your honest and unbiased reviews. Amazing job bro. 💯🔥
Thank you bro! Someone has to keep it real
Same!
I sailed at full capacity! As a handicapped traveler the Icon was fantastic! Other than getting down to the Hideaway adults only area it, the size was wonderful it was over 6800 people sailing and it never felt like it. I was able to still see the Aqua action show even though sold out! So many options to eat other than windjammer and main dining room. I brought seasonings for the food, didn't need it...I was not disappointed and will be sailing again!
Very comprehensive, informative, and fair review. Icon isn’t my cup of tea - I prefer midsized ships like Holland America and Celebrity - but you made icon seem a bit more palatable.
$10k/person/week nightmare. A vacation that compares to a Black Friday week at the mall. Ugh...
There is much cheaper vacations than going on Icon of the Seas for sure.
I was on the same cruise! I'm right behind you in 0:56 with the balloons - that's too funny! Have a the video that I just posted today - maybe you will see yourself. Small world!
You mind telling what all. Was included in the price?
@@sidneyshaw9205 It was an inaugural sailing for the industry people and everything was included. It's not like that on a regular sailing. You have your accommodation and meals included.
I am not a fan of these huge ships, I’ll stick with smaller vessels like the Vision of the Seas and other cruise lines like Princess which I also enjoy.
12:44 can’t satisfy everyone there’s always gonna be someone unhappy 😂
U must be rich
@@treypitchford1516 I wish
The thought of being on a ship with 10,000 people makes me shudder. It’s definitely not for me.
The last thing I want is to go on a cruise with screaming kids! I need a adult only cruise.
Thanks Justin. My family and I are booked on icon for March (Spring Break) Excited to check everything out
When you are begging for a bribe in the video but clearly didn’t get the payment lol. Come on man. Anyone cruising knows you’re paid so just tell us
Beautiful ship however, too much ship for us. There were more people on you sailing than in the entire town I live in. LOL. I hate the tiny comedy venues on newer ships. It does look like there is something for everyone!
I hate crowds, bad food, queuing, noisy drunk people, feeling confined, not being able to get away from people. I don’t think I’m going to get a cheaper cruise!
are you saying they take you to an island they own and then charge you to use the beach ?
so we have to wait until you go when it has 10K people on board to hear just how good / bad the crowd situation is.... you told us about the comedy club and aqua show... (Crowded) but the buffet, food areas?
did you pay for your cruise or reduced rate or was it 100% comp?
Comped all the way and pitched a plug mid video
This ship would be a nightmare for me. Like a shopping mall at Christmas or Walmart on Black Friday. Aside from holding too many people the venues seem small. With very little seating for the crowds that will want to see the shows and play the games. 7000 people trying to eat dinner between 5 and 8? No way.
Another very real concern is porting. What happens when 5 or 6 ships from all different cruiselines are in port at the same time. There could be 20k people trying to do the same excursions, eat at the same restaurants, swim at the same beaches all at the same time. No to mention the environmental impact on the beaches, harbors and wildlife. How many people handling sloths is too many? I bet these ships get banned in some countries. The crowds would be too much for the cities, transportation, and citizens to handle.
I believe the price for crowns edge is lowered to $39-$49 ( Via Kyle pallo ) most recent vlog due to it having a low amount of sales . Not sure that’s only happening for his cruise tho
Yeah, they're gonna need to bring those prices down if they don't want a bunch of grumpy faces in the MDR or Buffet that wanted to go specialty dining and didn't get a reservation.
Because with those prices, the whole ship if gonna be fighting for reservations and not just one half, since nobody who can afford to go on board is gonna mind a few dollars extra for a fancy meal.
And if they're gonna keep prices at this level, they had better gone with the virgin strategy of specialty dining only...
A floating shopping mall and jail cell, I can't imagine the diseases onboard, 😂
I couldn't imagine going on a ship this large! Maybe one day...
Yes, me too! But I’m guessing that I wouldn’t even see half of it!
I wonder if it would be worth it …?
Thinking about going next year.. gotta drop some weight 1st 😅 👍🥂 .. gotta look sharp for the pics 😀
And yet the owner of Royal Caribbean has 2 private yachts
At what point is it too extravagant and too big. This may take away from the experience of being at sea IMO when you technically don't feel like you're at sea
royals food has definitely gone down in quality in my opinion.
I hope the price goes down some day. Would love to experience this massive ship.
I wish the cruise ships aired the shows on the stateroom tvs or other venues for people who can't get into the theater.
Just got off the ship last Saturday. I was surprised by how spacious the ship actually is. To me, the ship felt less crowded than an Oasis Class Ship. Plenty of room to walk and activities to do that makes the spaces not so full. I would say the only area that seemed crowded was Windjammer during peak hours. We decided to wake up earlier and problem fixed. We had a great time. Most of the teenagers and kids spend time in the slide and main pool. Other than the adult only area, there were pools on deck 17 that were not so crowded. If you have the opportunity go on it and see it first hand. You will be surprised.
Thanks! I’m Wowed but will probably not do this one. Hoping rumors are true that they’ll be building smaller ships soon
Hi Jay ! It’s a bit much ! We prefer a more classy, elegant cruise ships ! Not a theme park on the water ! But it gives an option for all of us ! We prefer the Princess Regal class ! Thx for sharing 🥰
Check out Paul Gauguin cruises! Sounds right up your alley. I’ve been 4 times and it’s first class
I was just on Regal. Wasn't really my vibe (skewed a bit too old for me), but I still had an enjoyable cruise.
You should try carnival Venezia . Very classy, elegant ‘ beautiful. I’ve been on it once so far I just booked again for March 25
Nice ship. though it is for families, loud kids etc like an amusement park on seas, not my cup of tea so not a ship I would ever use. I am more interested how something that tall, top heavy and skinny will handle the oceans during rough weather.
In every industry the mouse will forever and always be the enemy
One of the things that I absolutely loved about Oasis-class ships is that they have two flowriders which helps a lot with crowd-control. I was shocked to find out that Icon-class only has one which will make it very crowded there.
hows the internet speedon icon of the seas? is it any better compared to other cruises since it is new? trying to plan to work remote