*opens gift* "SURPRISE!, It's grandma!" "I knew she'd make it!" "Well her head anyway. Her hands went to your cousin. Speaking of which, guess what's in your stocking!"
Sick Fact: Orin’s mother, Helena, is also her half-sister. Yes. Sarevok seduced his own daughter & had her give birth to his child. That is a thing that happened. In case anyone thought this family couldn’t get any more messed up.
@@JKerr97 2 places. The official wiki & a dialog choice when questioning Helena’s corpse. She confesses that both she & Orin loved Sarevok (like that).
@@ben5056 or maybe she did, and he returned back to her just like you do in campaign - except he was not a story hero, so she wins that duel before you reach her.
Orin: "Do you forget what I did to you?" Dark Urge: "I mean... yeah... I did... like, I thought we'd established this already... s'why it took me so long to get back here. It quite literally took me an entire campaign to find out about my mysterious past, since I can't remember anything... I don't understand what's so confusing about this for you..."
does it affect gameplay? like give her debuff or deprive her of a buff? Or is it more like a Raphael situation where you can call him sh@ with no other benefit than it is funny.
@@KikomochiMendozaWell this shit isn't funny tbh. Orin is mentally a little girl. The checks are meant to persuade her to escape. And if you do manage to unbalance her psyche, Bhaal takes over.
You can call her an inbred abomination to get her mental breakdown too. If you take the peaceful solution to dealing with Sarevok and become an unholy assassin, as well as learn Orin's parentage through Sarevok's memoirs, You can grill him on why he would take such an incestuous means of propagating Bhaal's blood. Turns out their have been no new true Bhaal spawn since the initial Bhaal-spawn crisis as quarter bloods are too weak in his essence. So since all other bhaal-spawn were dead (mostly at each others hands) a resurrected Sarevok sought to breed with his own daughter to propagate a new Slayer candidate, not accounting that D-urge would instead be tailor created to fill that roll.
That's the thing: Doppelganger ancestry in D&D virtually rules out genetic defects that come with inbreeding. Meaning she's crazy and twisted due to nurture rather than nature.
@@theodoreyoungman2111 My game bugged and Yenna simply disappeared off the face of the earth never to be seen again, despite Lae'zal having been the impostor for me. At least Grub was alive and well.
@@cianakrilIn my last playthrough Lae'zal was the impostor. She killed Yenna before my eyes because she convinced me that Yenna was the impostor. Was fine by me. I liked murder and always sent Yenna away every day.
“Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper, is tear-assing around Baldur’s Gate in a brand new Orin suit. That sound like fun?” I just think she looks like the bug from Men in Black
You know, at one time, before entering this fight, I let Karlach consume a soul coin and used every possible summoning spell from Cleric Shadowheart and Necromancer Wizard Gale to prepare for a grand epic battle... and then a duel happened instead. Nevertheless, the more audiences, the better.
Did almost the same thing, ran to the Surgeon guy, was expecting everyone there to turn on me. So in preparation, I popped some elxirs, gave Karlach a soul coin, set everyone up while my main character was talking. Only to talk him into having his staff kill him. Then when I got to the Gold/Toll boss, I thought "Ill talk my way thru this like last time". Failed miserably, and had my team wiped. Didnt know carrying gold while fighting her would give her a huge edge. Boss one shot my main and Shadowheart in a few turns lmao.
It could be worse. You could be like me and end a campaign with an inventory full of “this is awesome, better save it for later” items. I don’t think I used a single attack that didn’t come from a scroll or reinforcements during the last few fights. Everyone was rolling up with haste. 27 strength, and well rested plus’s whatever else I had laying around though. I probably canceled some stuff out with other effects but who cares at that point?
If you choose the "[Deception] Sarevok told me the truth himself. He was at you," option, the transformation into Slayer form is more violent. IIRC, Orin involuntarily turns into the slayer form after falling unconcious.
I know Orin is f*cked up as hell but I can’t help but to love her character. I missed twisted, fully evil villains, even if they act childlish at some moments 😂 Also her voice actress did an AMAZING job.
@@AntonKlermon the slayer form should be more OP, especially in this instance; Orin is the only boss you fight 1 on 1 from what I've seen in my playthroughs. Outside that, Tav Slayer form is pretty mid imo. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are on everything, but I took Barb half orc durge, and slayer form was just worst in every aspect to what I could do outside it.
With Bully Maguire being on preview, i cannot help but recite some of the quotes "Ow...look at the little Orin Junior...gonna cry?" "Stings, doesh'it?"
Orin be like ''You took him (Sarevok) away from me, he loved me.'' Your PC '' No, he despised you. You were an embarrassement to him.'' 😂 For some reason, tormenting a deranged psycho like Orin feels like fun.
Can't take either of these fools (her & Anime Gortash) seriously. Ketheric Thorm should have been the last boss. In fact, Act 3 feels like Act 2 and vice versa. When you're outrunning a army bearing down on Baldur's Gate - intent on stopping an Elder Brain from conquering the world - you don't have time to waste in a circus or doing the local police's job...
I kind of agree. Kethric was depressed and emo but felt like he had some weight and dignity to him... Like a real boss, you know? These two feel like self centred fools who can't see most obvious betrayals right in front of them bc of their hubris. Kethric and act 2 was definitely my favourite. There was too much lolly gagging in act 3.
@@hughswanson2354 Which is why going to BG after leaving the wilderness would have felt a more natural progression - with an ending in the cursed lands. It seems to me Larian built their Act 2 to feel like a rewarding finish for their looonnng early access - instead of planning it to be the middle chapter. Witness the sloppy third act we got.
The army already got to Baldur's Gate by the time you arrive, it was fended off by the Flaming Fist and the Steel Watch. That was the reason Gortash was given so much power, because he "saved" the city
honestly I do love Orin as a character. it makes me wonder what would have happened if she had intervention like the Durge did before all of this, friends to rely on rather than people waiting to backstab her. she was pretty much doomed from the start but it's still sad, it would take amnesia like Durge had to help her.
@@rakaharits I flew around without triggering the cutscene you have to be very careful though. Whenever looking for weird ways into areas use triple jump or fly you'll always find a way in.
I didn't even risk the life of Gale (he was the abducted). Used Astarion to stealthily apply a cloudkill on the Arena, and lured her out of the area, into the bridge. She and her minions had to stroll through insect plague, cloudkill, firewall and blade barrier, and when she reached armor-tank-hasted Karlach, 1 upgraded magic-missile stripped her of the rest of unstoppables she had. The rest was hack, hack, hack. Soccer kicking the beatch to oblivion.
Her dialogue isnt even that interesting. Its like someone at larian played vtmb mallavian and tried to make a half assed attempt to copy troika's homework but lacked the skill to do so. The only reaction she got out of me was "omfg shut the fuck up" like she's not even remotely entertaining she just reeks of "trying too hard to have a LOLSORANDOM EVIL CHICK" My paladin also two hit her when we fought. Most disappointing boss fight by far. And I wasn't even level 12!
lmao i followed my butlers guidance and at this point I had the slayer form instead of her and I was a barbarian needless to say orin got absolutely bodied
Larian scared me: don't pick dark urge for the first run. So I pick tav and that was cool. But after that I started second run with dark urge and saw his story ending. I dissapointed that i didn't pick dark urge for the first run.
I personally think darg urge tav is canon tav because it is the only origin that cannot join your party (but you can encounter them lying dead on the floor next to orins bed)
It really is strange to me. Larian won’t ever say it but DUrge is so clearly the canonical protagonist (with resisting the urge more than likely being the canon path). Tav in EA had some references to an “urge” and the option to either resist or embrace it, but I guess they broke DUrge off into its own origin character so that people didn’t have to experience the route’s unavoidable brutality if they didn’t want to
@@cyberdoge1857 I was playing as Dark Urge except when I told her about Sarevok, I rolled the religion check afterwards. She started to break down about how everything she did was for sarevok and bhaal intervenes and forces her to transform.
@@TehLightravenMaybe it's just me but she also becomes more powerful. She used AoE scream that killed my kidnapped companion immediately so I had to finish her in 1 turn
@@cyberdoge1857 I'm not sure if that makes her more powerful or not but she's too weak to tell. Usually she just gets 1 turn to jump at me before my Rogue/Monk kills her.
honestly i think it would be better if ketheric changed places with gortash and orin. He was such a good antagonist, he looks and sounds like an absolute menace and the other two are too cheesy to be final bosses imho. Also act 2 overall felt much more atmospheric and tense in that regard even if it is the shortest of them all
I kind of agree. Ketheric had motivations and a temperament that was worthy of a final villain. I like Orin and Gortash as villains for what it's worth, but I also feel like they were supposed to be the "mini bosses" and Ketheric was supposed to be the one manipulating them so he could get what he wanted.
Orin : *in a state of mental breakdown and denial my character : "A dirty, shriveled, anemic little part of you that still mewls for approval, and love, and a mommy, and a daddy, and a boo-hoo-hoo!"
Interesting. In my playthrough I had a dialog option to show her bhaals love for me and transform into the slayer before the fight which led to me beeing the slayer fighting normal orin.
That makes sense. Well, I thought that was a normal part of the Dark Urge questline to receive that form but I guess killing literally everyone I finished buisness with is a little bit extravagant and must have pleased Bhaal a lot. @@Lightna
@@jensenmcjens4029 I was playing a good guy Durge and I can confirm, you don't get the Slayer form unless you do certain actions. Act 2 Spoilers Below. I believe it's specifically connected to killing Isobel/killing the Nightsong. If you do either of these things, it has the same effect and you get the Slayer form as a gift. Choose not to and it triggers the night where your unsated Urge will try and kill whoever you're romancing at the time. This is presented you'll get the Slayer form if you go through with it, but I'm pretty sure the camp attacks you in the morning and you'll probably die in that encounter. But point is, you don't get the form by resisting the Urge until this part of the game where you can receive it by winning the duel.
This part bugged for me. Even though I was in the room prepared to speak with Orins Mother's dead body, it triggered the confrontataion cutscene with Orin right away
i really do love this game BUT seeing your own character talk like that when Orin Transformed into him made me realise how much better it would have been if your character wouldnt be silent...
It wasnt that this game was dnd that made it a goty. It wasnt the music, characters or story not even the spells. It was the capes! And that you could truely play a villain.
Bro what? By level 11, most of your characters should be pushing 140. Depending on feats you took, you could be looking at a Karlach with 230 HP. What characters were you using, and what builds do you make?
2 Questions. 1. Why the fuck is lazel on the floor? that was some random town girl for me. 2. WHY DOES ORIN HAVE YOUR POWER? You played the DU and gave up your powers ?? I didnt even know that was possible wtf. I know you can refuse your fathers gift at the end but... i thought becoming the slayer was set in stone. Apparently she can take it from you? wtf
both those things happened in my game so ill answer that, i told the kid to fuck off she never ended up in my camp and laezel was the only one there so that's who orin took. I never killed isobel so i was never gifted the slayer form and orin had it.
@@lenav9897 Oh ? Ill be honest. Lights Hope was all a blur to me. I think I fucked that up royally. I dont even really wanna talk about it but lets just say I only met one single NPC in that entire place. SOMEHOW, My stupid ass thought it was a place to fight people so I snuck upstairs. Guess who the first fucking npc was I met. Isobel. Guess who died in the first cutscene/chat I had at the location? Isobel. Shit hit the fan like literally 16 seconds after I got to lights hope. I heard theres a ton of shit your supposed to do there but i guess in my playthrough my guy Noped out of all of it.
Yep- Karlach's quest is there, tieflings can be there, prisoners from moonrise can be taken there, jaheira-- a character from the other baldurs gate games are there.. It's a pretty big lore point in the game..@@Foxexar
@@FoxexarHappened to me as well on my first playthrough. I was tempted to reload but I wanted to take everything happening on my first run just how the dice fell. And I actually quite liked the second act being so dark and miserable. I'll try to save everyone on my next run.
So lemme get this straight: your character was basically part of the original three that were supposed to control the absolute, went through extremely great lengths and a lot of effort to build the entire thing and achieved so much for that goal, got betrayed by one of your lackeys to be a thrall in said army, and somehow, someway, your character seeks redemption from the dark urge. im so fucking glad durge was moved away from being the base for tav
@@Carsa-is6vb i know, but it still makes zero sense that its even on the table, like this is your life’s work and you’re gonna throw it all away because?????
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Family reunions seem so fun at Bhaal's temple. Can you imagine what birthdays and Christmases look like😂😂
Christ being a Bhaalspawn is a wonderfully blasphemous idea. 😂
The family holidays are to die for ... literally ;)
*opens gift* "SURPRISE!, It's grandma!"
"I knew she'd make it!"
"Well her head anyway. Her hands went to your cousin. Speaking of which, guess what's in your stocking!"
They’re probably quite red 🤔
You should meet my family come Christmas ...
Sick Fact: Orin’s mother, Helena, is also her half-sister. Yes. Sarevok seduced his own daughter & had her give birth to his child. That is a thing that happened. In case anyone thought this family couldn’t get any more messed up.
Where did you get that information? Can’t find it anywhere else
@@JKerr97 2 places. The official wiki & a dialog choice when questioning Helena’s corpse. She confesses that both she & Orin loved Sarevok (like that).
In the table you can find a note where it is written that Sarevok put the seed of Baal into his daughter.@@JKerr97
@@TheOddityFairalso, if you go into Sarevok's office you can read his journals. He admits it all
Pretty on par for a viscous murder god, to be completely driven by libido and possessiveness.
What's wild is on a normal playthrough - you can actually find Durge's body on the floor in Orin's room.
Makes me wonder why she killed him instead of tadpoling him in non durge playthroughs.
@@ben5056I think she tried but the Durge died in the process
@@EmilianoAC1I saw it as Durge not having lost his memories and went back to confront Orin but was killed.
@@ben5056 or maybe she did, and he returned back to her just like you do in campaign - except he was not a story hero, so she wins that duel before you reach her.
Orin: "Do you forget what I did to you?"
Dark Urge: "I mean... yeah... I did... like, I thought we'd established this already... s'why it took me so long to get back here. It quite literally took me an entire campaign to find out about my mysterious past, since I can't remember anything... I don't understand what's so confusing about this for you..."
Well she is the stupid one lol, Goes mental when she realizes she was the sacrifice.
The Dark Urge is not Tav
@@backgroundpony it's still the default name for a custom character, no?
@@stars-and-clouds The Dark Urge is called The Dark Urge by default, not Tav.
@@trevormoney8126 I see, thanks!
If you go even further and do the checks she straight up has a mental breakdown and bhaal possesses her and forces her to transform.
does it affect gameplay? like give her debuff or deprive her of a buff? Or is it more like a Raphael situation where you can call him sh@ with no other benefit than it is funny.
@@KikomochiMendoza I think it might actually buff her. I think she gets bonus HP.
@@KikomochiMendozaWell this shit isn't funny tbh. Orin is mentally a little girl. The checks are meant to persuade her to escape. And if you do manage to unbalance her psyche, Bhaal takes over.
@KikomochiMendoza She gets the Slayer and so you both 1v1 Slayer duel.
You can call her an inbred abomination to get her mental breakdown too.
If you take the peaceful solution to dealing with Sarevok and become an unholy assassin, as well as learn Orin's parentage through Sarevok's memoirs, You can grill him on why he would take such an incestuous means of propagating Bhaal's blood. Turns out their have been no new true Bhaal spawn since the initial Bhaal-spawn crisis as quarter bloods are too weak in his essence.
So since all other bhaal-spawn were dead (mostly at each others hands) a resurrected Sarevok sought to breed with his own daughter to propagate a new Slayer candidate, not accounting that D-urge would instead be tailor created to fill that roll.
That's the thing: Doppelganger ancestry in D&D virtually rules out genetic defects that come with inbreeding. Meaning she's crazy and twisted due to nurture rather than nature.
I've never roasted her with that. I do drink a Potion of Animal Speaking before talking with her though.
Didn't Sarevok lose all of Bhaal's essence during his resurrection?
That would have been nice to know in the wiki. Explains a lot.
@@caramelitoalegre bro went the extra miles for that roast.
PC: “Your grandpa hates you”
Orin: “Nuh-uh”
I almost felt bad for her, until I learned that both Grub and Scratch can die at her hands.
She kills Scratch. John Wick joins the party.
She got grub in my playthrough, I took that personally.
@@theodoreyoungman2111 My game bugged and Yenna simply disappeared off the face of the earth never to be seen again, despite Lae'zal having been the impostor for me. At least Grub was alive and well.
@@magicdog9523Yenna IS the impostor. She disappears the moment Orin reveals herself in the Sewers before doing so in the camp.
@@cianakrilIn my last playthrough Lae'zal was the impostor. She killed Yenna before my eyes because she convinced me that Yenna was the impostor. Was fine by me. I liked murder and always sent Yenna away every day.
I'm sure she calls the PC pig mouthed anyway but directing it at a half orc just makes her sound racist.
What's that mean? And why a half-orc in particular?
@@imperialtrooper927 bruh
@@talesofacrookedmouth Lol
@@imperialtrooper927You know.
@@MammalianCreature I have a clue, and I might be right, and if I am, then it's another stupid and pointless matter in life.
“Imagine a giant cockroach, with unlimited strength, a massive inferiority complex, and a real short temper, is tear-assing around Baldur’s Gate in a brand new Orin suit. That sound like fun?”
I just think she looks like the bug from Men in Black
They're both dead, so
Baldur's Gate 2 was out in 2001. I think the bug in Men in Black looks like the Slayer.
@@OroborusFMA MIB was 1997
You know, at one time, before entering this fight, I let Karlach consume a soul coin and used every possible summoning spell from Cleric Shadowheart and Necromancer Wizard Gale to prepare for a grand epic battle... and then a duel happened instead. Nevertheless, the more audiences, the better.
At least Karlach was able to cheer for you even harder.
Did almost the same thing, ran to the Surgeon guy, was expecting everyone there to turn on me. So in preparation, I popped some elxirs, gave Karlach a soul coin, set everyone up while my main character was talking. Only to talk him into having his staff kill him. Then when I got to the Gold/Toll boss, I thought "Ill talk my way thru this like last time". Failed miserably, and had my team wiped. Didnt know carrying gold while fighting her would give her a huge edge. Boss one shot my main and Shadowheart in a few turns lmao.
It could be worse. You could be like me and end a campaign with an inventory full of “this is awesome, better save it for later” items. I don’t think I used a single attack that didn’t come from a scroll or reinforcements during the last few fights. Everyone was rolling up with haste. 27 strength, and well rested plus’s whatever else I had laying around though. I probably canceled some stuff out with other effects but who cares at that point?
I stunlocked her for most of the fight.
@@19ryuuseiMy dumbass only figured out ballin with 5k gold in my pockets while fighting her was a bad idea AFTER I beat her in a grueling boss fight
If you choose the "[Deception] Sarevok told me the truth himself. He was at you," option, the transformation into Slayer form is more violent. IIRC, Orin involuntarily turns into the slayer form after falling unconcious.
Baal literally erases her personality cause she understood that all she did was for grampy and not for Baal.
The deception one is so much better Orin’s reaction sounds like she’s breaking down crying saying daddy they lied to me😂😂😂
I know Orin is f*cked up as hell but I can’t help but to love her character. I missed twisted, fully evil villains, even if they act childlish at some moments 😂 Also her voice actress did an AMAZING job.
Yesss she's absolutely amazing, she's Lady Dimitrescu's VA in RE Village too
@@miru6005 Really? I knew I heard her voice somewhere but couldn’t recall where! She nailed these two blood thirsty ladies 😂
I couldn't disagree more, I just found her irritating.
I can fix her
when she first appears and does the whol copying random NPCs thing I was like: :DD "[boyfriend's name] I love her!!!"
Funny to me when he says you shoulda trained harder...and yet you go up and body her in one move even in her Slayer form.
yeahh... bosses should be much more dangerous...
I agree 100% lol@@AntonKlermon
@@AntonKlermon the slayer form should be more OP, especially in this instance; Orin is the only boss you fight 1 on 1 from what I've seen in my playthroughs. Outside that, Tav Slayer form is pretty mid imo. I'm not sure what the exact numbers are on everything, but I took Barb half orc durge, and slayer form was just worst in every aspect to what I could do outside it.
orin was a bigger issue to me as the slayer, her in human form than she was as a slayer to me as human
yeah even on tactician she did like 0 dps. don't think it was balanced properly. also saravok was like lvl 16 but still wasn't that hard.
With Bully Maguire being on preview, i cannot help but recite some of the quotes
"Ow...look at the little Orin Junior...gonna cry?"
"Stings, doesh'it?"
Orin be like ''You took him (Sarevok) away from me, he loved me.''
Your PC '' No, he despised you. You were an embarrassement to him.'' 😂
For some reason, tormenting a deranged psycho like Orin feels like fun.
'You pig-mouthed liar'...
Orc : You hurt my feelings 😂
Can't take either of these fools (her & Anime Gortash) seriously. Ketheric Thorm should have been the last boss. In fact, Act 3 feels like Act 2 and vice versa. When you're outrunning a army bearing down on Baldur's Gate - intent on stopping an Elder Brain from conquering the world - you don't have time to waste in a circus or doing the local police's job...
Circus fun that's why
I kind of agree. Kethric was depressed and emo but felt like he had some weight and dignity to him... Like a real boss, you know?
These two feel like self centred fools who can't see most obvious betrayals right in front of them bc of their hubris. Kethric and act 2 was definitely my favourite. There was too much lolly gagging in act 3.
Isn't the circus optional and I feel like the police part gave you reason to explore the city?
@@hughswanson2354 Which is why going to BG after leaving the wilderness would have felt a more natural progression - with an ending in the cursed lands. It seems to me Larian built their Act 2 to feel like a rewarding finish for their looonnng early access - instead of planning it to be the middle chapter. Witness the sloppy third act we got.
The army already got to Baldur's Gate by the time you arrive, it was fended off by the Flaming Fist and the Steel Watch. That was the reason Gortash was given so much power, because he "saved" the city
honestly I do love Orin as a character. it makes me wonder what would have happened if she had intervention like the Durge did before all of this, friends to rely on rather than people waiting to backstab her. she was pretty much doomed from the start but it's still sad, it would take amnesia like Durge had to help her.
I love how your character is so indifferent
It is crazy how I think I'm being careful and thorough and still miss so much
I had the same scene it felt so rewarding to go through the back and do this.
How do you go through the back?
@@rakaharitscrack through the left side
@@rakaharits I flew around without triggering the cutscene you have to be very careful though. Whenever looking for weird ways into areas use triple jump or fly you'll always find a way in.
@@themanwhosavedtheworld236 ohhhhhhhh
I didn't even risk the life of Gale (he was the abducted). Used Astarion to stealthily apply a cloudkill on the Arena, and lured her out of the area, into the bridge. She and her minions had to stroll through insect plague, cloudkill, firewall and blade barrier, and when she reached armor-tank-hasted Karlach, 1 upgraded magic-missile stripped her of the rest of unstoppables she had. The rest was hack, hack, hack. Soccer kicking the beatch to oblivion.
But the loot...
@@FenrirLupo Still got the loot. I beat her at the bridge.
@@alexl7213 oic, I thought you meant pushing her into the chasm by soccer kicking her.
Didn’t realize this was the culmination of the Dark Urge storyline
I cannot take Orin seriously. She's got the most undiluted, concentrated Pick Me energy I've ever seen in a video game antagonist.
She's Bhaal's pick me
Like she's not actually insane and just trying so hard to please daddy😂
I very much hope the world spares you from ever becoming stuck having to exist around one like that irl, imo it's even more cringe in reality
Her dialogue isnt even that interesting. Its like someone at larian played vtmb mallavian and tried to make a half assed attempt to copy troika's homework but lacked the skill to do so.
The only reaction she got out of me was "omfg shut the fuck up" like she's not even remotely entertaining she just reeks of "trying too hard to have a LOLSORANDOM EVIL CHICK"
My paladin also two hit her when we fought. Most disappointing boss fight by far. And I wasn't even level 12!
@@eyeballpapercut4400 no wonder Gortash seems like he can't stand her
lmao
i followed my butlers guidance and at this point I had the slayer form instead of her
and I was a barbarian
needless to say orin got absolutely bodied
I didn’t even see the room Orin’s mother was in. I just went straight down to the sacrifice table ;-; Missed a lot, and I even killed the grandpa
Larian scared me: don't pick dark urge for the first run. So I pick tav and that was cool. But after that I started second run with dark urge and saw his story ending. I dissapointed that i didn't pick dark urge for the first run.
@@BM-rr1ir Well, Dark Urge has a very interesting story, you might even say that it's the mots interesting Baldur's Gate 3 origin character
I personally think darg urge tav is canon tav because it is the only origin that cannot join your party (but you can encounter them lying dead on the floor next to orins bed)
@@keinkanal7382 Bhaalspawn on the ground? Yeah Orin is disappointing though
It really is strange to me. Larian won’t ever say it but DUrge is so clearly the canonical protagonist (with resisting the urge more than likely being the canon path). Tav in EA had some references to an “urge” and the option to either resist or embrace it, but I guess they broke DUrge off into its own origin character so that people didn’t have to experience the route’s unavoidable brutality if they didn’t want to
*Orin takes the Slayer form*
Min/Maxxed level 12 Tav: Ha Ha 20 Fireballs in one turn go *brrrrrrrr*
That's just 160d6 DMG, rookie numbers.
Just cast dense macabre and watch your minions permastunlock her.
@@Irrelevant94why stun lock when you can just murder
@@nguyentandung42 Spoken like a true dark urge.
@@nguyentandung42 The Lord of Murder perished. What makes you think you won't? But nobody ever killed someone while they were stun-locked.
When I got this scene Bhaal had to intervene and force her to transform.
did u play as dark urge? how did u get that
@@cyberdoge1857 I was playing as Dark Urge except when I told her about Sarevok, I rolled the religion check afterwards. She started to break down about how everything she did was for sarevok and bhaal intervenes and forces her to transform.
@@TehLightravenOh yeah, that choice is much more cruel for Orin
@@TehLightravenMaybe it's just me but she also becomes more powerful. She used AoE scream that killed my kidnapped companion immediately so I had to finish her in 1 turn
@@cyberdoge1857 I'm not sure if that makes her more powerful or not but she's too weak to tell. Usually she just gets 1 turn to jump at me before my Rogue/Monk kills her.
oh shit she's from Brampton I wonder if she's listened to Babbu recently
Brampton mans respect
Sarevok, Helena, Orin. One of these names does not seem like the other? I guess Sarevok let his waifu name their kid or something.
Orin is also his kid, you know
Orin isn't Sarevok's daughter, her mother is.
she is, sarevok sired helena@@Hekk.
@@dsvoid7514 So basicly Sarevok is from Alabama?
@@loveisfreethree I have heard this before but never found proof of it myself in game. Where is this info found?
honestly i think it would be better if ketheric changed places with gortash and orin. He was such a good antagonist, he looks and sounds like an absolute menace and the other two are too cheesy to be final bosses imho. Also act 2 overall felt much more atmospheric and tense in that regard even if it is the shortest of them all
I kind of agree. Ketheric had motivations and a temperament that was worthy of a final villain. I like Orin and Gortash as villains for what it's worth, but I also feel like they were supposed to be the "mini bosses" and Ketheric was supposed to be the one manipulating them so he could get what he wanted.
Kethric should have totally switched places with Gortash, I feel he's too silly a final boss
Orin whipping out her blade like Frank Reynolds whipping out his revolver to start blasting
filthy pig mouthed little liar"... oddly that reminds me of how Gollum talked in LOTR xD
thanks for the durge spoilers, didn't expect that.
please correctly title and spoiler your videos
It might be worth noting that there's a pretty substantial spoiler for the dark uge in this video.
Could've said in the title that you're playing as the dark urge, way to spoil things
God I hate spoilers but worse are spoilers that aren't marked as spoilers. Thanks for ruining that one for me.
Warchief Thrall..? Is that you?
Zug zug.
Should have included her getting 1 tapped lmao
I love how you can "Martha" your way out of situations.
more like "Ur mum" kind of situation.
Durge: Haha ur mum is also your sister. literal incest baby + L + ratio
Orin: ‧º·(˚ ˃̣̣̥⌓˂̣̣̥ )‧º·˚
Orin : *in a state of mental breakdown and denial
my character : "A dirty, shriveled, anemic little part of you that still mewls for approval, and love, and a mommy, and a daddy, and a boo-hoo-hoo!"
Can you at least put DURGE spoilers in the title?
oh.. well thanks for the Dark urge spoilers....
But can you trigger this chain of dialogue AND attain the form of the Slayer?
You can get the form earlier if you kill the cleric or here if you dont reject it from bhaal.
even if you have the slay form form killing said izz, she can still be forced to transfrom in this conversavtion.
@@wei270 damn!
Butler dude: You shoulda done a training montage
*My lvl 12 monk Kills orin turn 1 with bare hands*
Aaaand after this words to her she becomes a hamster.
Shit, seems I just got spoiled the end of the dark urges storyline 😅😂
same lol. was sure to find a comment thread where to go n cry, thx
How do you get here without triggering her battle?
When you enter the big chamber go to the left befoe gling down the stairs, there is a hidden passage that leads to her room.
We’re you playing as the dark urge?
Vid has Dark Urge MC, yes
@@Hekk. I’m aware, I’m asking the commenter not the uploader.
but i can fix her and if not, ill hit atleast
It does seem almost a shame they didn't make that an option. Sure, it'll lead to immediate murder attempts, but at least it'll be FUN murder.
Interesting. In my playthrough I had a dialog option to show her bhaals love for me and transform into the slayer before the fight which led to me beeing the slayer fighting normal orin.
You must have earned your inheritance while the player in this video did not. That's the only reason I can think of.
That makes sense. Well, I thought that was a normal part of the Dark Urge questline to receive that form but I guess killing literally everyone I finished buisness with is a little bit extravagant and must have pleased Bhaal a lot. @@Lightna
@@jensenmcjens4029 I was playing a good guy Durge and I can confirm, you don't get the Slayer form unless you do certain actions. Act 2 Spoilers Below.
I believe it's specifically connected to killing Isobel/killing the Nightsong. If you do either of these things, it has the same effect and you get the Slayer form as a gift. Choose not to and it triggers the night where your unsated Urge will try and kill whoever you're romancing at the time. This is presented you'll get the Slayer form if you go through with it, but I'm pretty sure the camp attacks you in the morning and you'll probably die in that encounter. But point is, you don't get the form by resisting the Urge until this part of the game where you can receive it by winning the duel.
Where is the spoiler alert tag?
Downvoted and channel blocked for lack of spoilers warning.
This part bugged for me.
Even though I was in the room prepared to speak with Orins Mother's dead body, it triggered the confrontataion cutscene with Orin right away
Yeah me too. Did you kill sarevok already? I kill sarevok already. Maybe thats why
You have the most chad-looking half-orc ever.
She kinda bad tho
shes one of the baddest in the game tbh
@@saber8723 Mizora
i really do love this game BUT seeing your own character talk like that when Orin Transformed into him made me realise how much better it would have been if your character wouldnt be silent...
Orin is more stable than my last girlfriend.
It wasnt that this game was dnd that made it a goty. It wasnt the music, characters or story not even the spells. It was the capes! And that you could truely play a villain.
How did you get into her room before fighting her?
You missed the note about her being an incest baby of Sarevok and his Daughter.
You could have warned that you were as dark urge so i would not be spoiled
How do you get Bach their without triggering the fight/ dialogue?
I can fix her.
Every time i see Orin she reminds me of Annie in her Titan form with her insanity when she's human and just as bratty like a spoiled child.
3:52 do you have to be the dark urge in order for orin to imitate you? I want to hear my tav speaking so bad
Brampton represennnnnt
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!😂😂😂😂
I can fix her
How do you get into her chamber before the fight ??
Did I miss another entrance ? or is it exclusif to the Dark Urge ?
another entrance, you go to the left.
@@FallenFromGlory tks ! i'll watch for it
Bhaal has the best family reunions
Imagine thanksgiving at Bhaals temple
I'm my own grandma!
I'm my own grandma!
Its so funny I know but it really is so, HEY!
I'm my own grandma!
it's the way I just finished this scene and completely missed out on such a good interaction...
oh so Dark Urge is canonically Bhaalist and the architect of the Absolute plot?
Is Helena daughter of Cyranthria or Tamoko?
On no! She has the crappy form that makes your character less effective!
Are you playing as Gul'dan? Wow
I feel slightly bad for her. She is victim fr
what classes are your group that everyone has so much health? Half my party at level 11 is still under 100 health
Bro what? By level 11, most of your characters should be pushing 140. Depending on feats you took, you could be looking at a Karlach with 230 HP. What characters were you using, and what builds do you make?
@@Littlepup93 shadowheart cleric, wyll warlock / palladin, karlach babarian, me, wizard
Lmfao everyone out here saving Lae’ zel
didnt think this was gonna have dark urge spoilers lol...
How did you get to the bedroom without Orin triggering?
Shes took Halsin from me everytime, didnt even know other companions could be taken
2 Questions. 1. Why the fuck is lazel on the floor? that was some random town girl for me.
2. WHY DOES ORIN HAVE YOUR POWER? You played the DU and gave up your powers ?? I didnt even know that was possible wtf. I know you can refuse your fathers gift at the end but... i thought becoming the slayer was set in stone. Apparently she can take it from you? wtf
both those things happened in my game so ill answer that, i told the kid to fuck off she never ended up in my camp and laezel was the only one there so that's who orin took. I never killed isobel so i was never gifted the slayer form and orin had it.
@@lenav9897 Oh ? Ill be honest. Lights Hope was all a blur to me. I think I fucked that up royally. I dont even really wanna talk about it but lets just say I only met one single NPC in that entire place. SOMEHOW, My stupid ass thought it was a place to fight people so I snuck upstairs. Guess who the first fucking npc was I met. Isobel. Guess who died in the first cutscene/chat I had at the location? Isobel. Shit hit the fan like literally 16 seconds after I got to lights hope. I heard theres a ton of shit your supposed to do there but i guess in my playthrough my guy Noped out of all of it.
Yep- Karlach's quest is there, tieflings can be there, prisoners from moonrise can be taken there, jaheira-- a character from the other baldurs gate games are there.. It's a pretty big lore point in the game..@@Foxexar
@@FoxexarHappened to me as well on my first playthrough. I was tempted to reload but I wanted to take everything happening on my first run just how the dice fell. And I actually quite liked the second act being so dark and miserable.
I'll try to save everyone on my next run.
Family tree is straight as an arrow😊
DUUUUUUUDE, when your guy started TALKING!!
What is this ? I never came across this, is it only accessible thought dark urge playthrough?
Wait... hold on. Are you telling me that Bhaal's temple always been Alabama? No wonder it looked a bit familiar. xD
So lemme get this straight: your character was basically part of the original three that were supposed to control the absolute, went through extremely great lengths and a lot of effort to build the entire thing and achieved so much for that goal, got betrayed by one of your lackeys to be a thrall in said army, and somehow, someway, your character seeks redemption from the dark urge.
im so fucking glad durge was moved away from being the base for tav
it's basically a tribute to KotOR and how Revan is the main character of the first one.
I mean it follows the pattern of the first 2 games, where your character is a Bhaalspawn.
Well, I think you can still go evil if it fits your role-play better and you can avoid the "seeking redemption" part
@@Tamaki742 they didnt do it well this year
@@Carsa-is6vb i know, but it still makes zero sense that its even on the table, like this is your life’s work and you’re gonna throw it all away because?????
Also Orin means Urine in spanish
What.....you can speak with Orin's mother?!?!
Right? This surprised me about as much as the fact that you can Speak with Dead with the Orthon's bed in Act 2.
Is this in the bhaal temple?
ah fuck i've spoiled myself of the dark urge
Dang just realized Orin is the product of incest.
You should have trained harder master
Me: fresh from the house of hope.
Ok buddy
Her grandfather os also her father
You didn't even show the location, WHICH IS IN THE TITLE. Disliked 👎
I just sneak attacked this boss from the balcony until she was dead.
i didn't even think to speak with dead on her mom's corpse, lol.