Use the Standard Black Powder formula. Mill your composition damp (not wet) for 6 hours. The composition will come out of the mill either dry or almost dry. You could as an option keep it damp during the milling process. then remove the composition add enough water to make a ball that sticks to itself and granulate it over a screen. Do not worry about losing KNO3 (trivial amount), its been absorbed by your Air Float Charcoal and Sulfur during your milling process. Just wait until screen is dry to tap/rub what might stick of the Black Powder off of the screen. This is how I make really fast BP without a lot of fuss or worry.
Good job! I do things a little differently....I use 70/30 isopropyl alcohol instead of water....make my "ball" which I compress between thick plastic sheets with a rubber hammer...take the resulting sheet and pass the material though a #10 coarse screen....dry the granules in the sun on a copper tray...then size via stacked screens. More ways than one to skin a cat.
you can get much faster powder by milling it for a minimum of 3 hours. I personally do 4% dextrin and you can see the results on my channel titled "d1glitter bp only burst". I just used homemade silver maple charcoal and milled it for 4 hours. your granulation method is excellent. I really like the granule size and structure.
@@E85_STI I would just try a little bit of perc and benzoate to speed it up. aluminum and KNO3 react poorly and generate enough heat to spontaneously ignite. if you just get good charcoal it will make all the difference in the world. 3 hour milled bp with a proper mill rpm and charge will create some scary fast stuff. it burns with soft "thump" instead of whoosh.
@@E85_STI addidng aluminum to BP wont make it burn faster, just burn hotter with more residue - I tried that. To make BP burn faster mill it 8h and then granulate it by pressing slightly wet with 12T hydraulic press (corned black powder) or, buy rice hulls/grass seeds and coat them.
Can u regranulate the dry mixture again ,ive just made first batch works well just wondering if u have gone back and done the steps again for a better/worse product? Cheers
Yes you can and the more you do it the faster it gets because you are breaking down the chems and making them mix better. When you wet the mixture it makes the nitrate absorb into the charcoal
So I’ve always uses the 8 mesh granules for all my rockets but once you ram the powder it won’t matter the size as it’s rammed in increments. I make whistle rockets and that powder isn’t granulated though and I use a 100 mesh screen for those rockets.
Oh nice and I’ve made sugar rockets and tested them with a scale to see the thrust and I added a little rust to see if it changed the power but I haven’t tried charcoal added before.
ruclips.net/video/JoTQBVRyNE4/видео.html I can make a better one if needed. This one is an old video I made so it might not have the digital PWM controller.
@@E85_STI what size motor are you using? And it would be cool to see what you did for speed control! I'm trying to make a two in one ball mill small star roller combo!
@@treemaster2012 so I’m using a motor out of an old drill but if you wanted to get a motor off Amazon you could easily use a 550 motor like for an RC car but the speed controller I have keeps the speed down low enough to be able to allow the media to grind the powder because if you go to fast like 75rpm the media will start to stick to the wall and rotate with the powder and not crush it much. Now a lot of people will say they use 90rpm and that’s for the rock tumbler so mine is much more efficient and I can control the speed much better than the harbor freight rock tumbler. The battery I made is homemade 12 volts in a 3s 3p configuration and they are 18650 cells so on my channel I have a video I uploaded a week ago called Icy breeze update and I show the battery there.
So as long as you don’t grind all three together you’ll be fine but the granulation process is important because when you wet the powder the water breaks down the nitrate and it absorbs it into the charcoal so that gives you a better mixture than just mixing them dry. Also once granulated the powder doesn’t dust as much when using it to press.
I don't think it slows it down at all but doesn't seem to make the granuals as hard as dextren! But it also doesn't need to be milled to produce fast powerful bp
Use the Standard Black Powder formula. Mill your composition damp (not wet) for 6 hours. The composition will come out of the mill either dry or almost dry. You could as an option keep it damp during the milling process. then remove the composition add enough water to make a ball that sticks to itself and granulate it over a screen. Do not worry about losing KNO3 (trivial amount), its been absorbed by your Air Float Charcoal and Sulfur during your milling process. Just wait until screen is dry to tap/rub what might stick of the Black Powder off of the screen. This is how I make really fast BP without a lot of fuss or worry.
Good job! I do things a little differently....I use 70/30 isopropyl alcohol instead of water....make my "ball" which I compress between thick plastic sheets with a rubber hammer...take the resulting sheet and pass the material though a #10 coarse screen....dry the granules in the sun on a copper tray...then size via stacked screens. More ways than one to skin a cat.
you can get much faster powder by milling it for a minimum of 3 hours. I personally do 4% dextrin and you can see the results on my channel titled "d1glitter bp only burst". I just used homemade silver maple charcoal and milled it for 4 hours. your granulation method is excellent. I really like the granule size and structure.
Have you ever tried adding aluminum to the black powder? I’m thinking of trying it to see what it does.
@@E85_STI I would just try a little bit of perc and benzoate to speed it up. aluminum and KNO3 react poorly and generate enough heat to spontaneously ignite. if you just get good charcoal it will make all the difference in the world. 3 hour milled bp with a proper mill rpm and charge will create some scary fast stuff. it burns with soft "thump" instead of whoosh.
@@E85_STI addidng aluminum to BP wont make it burn faster, just burn hotter with more residue - I tried that. To make BP burn faster mill it 8h and then granulate it by pressing slightly wet with 12T hydraulic press (corned black powder) or, buy rice hulls/grass seeds and coat them.
Denatured alcohol
Thanks for doing this!
No problem and it’s fun to make black powder
How you make your pucks
I would use alcohol it evaporates fast
Can u regranulate the dry mixture again ,ive just made first batch works well just wondering if u have gone back and done the steps again for a better/worse product? Cheers
Yes you can and the more you do it the faster it gets because you are breaking down the chems and making them mix better. When you wet the mixture it makes the nitrate absorb into the charcoal
Would you recommend an 8 mesh screen for pressing into rockets or would a 12 mesh granual perform better?
So I’ve always uses the 8 mesh granules for all my rockets but once you ram the powder it won’t matter the size as it’s rammed in increments. I make whistle rockets and that powder isn’t granulated though and I use a 100 mesh screen for those rockets.
I made this rocket fuel it's 7g kno3 2.5g of powder sugar and 1g of powder charcoal I know it equals out 10.5g but it's so great sugar rocket fuel
Oh nice and I’ve made sugar rockets and tested them with a scale to see the thrust and I added a little rust to see if it changed the power but I haven’t tried charcoal added before.
Looks like it worked well
Very good job
Phát is white water?
Don't use dextrin😮
And do you have a ball mill build vid?
ruclips.net/video/JoTQBVRyNE4/видео.html
I can make a better one if needed. This one is an old video I made so it might not have the digital PWM controller.
@@E85_STI what size motor are you using? And it would be cool to see what you did for speed control! I'm trying to make a two in one ball mill small star roller combo!
@@treemaster2012 so I’m using a motor out of an old drill but if you wanted to get a motor off Amazon you could easily use a 550 motor like for an RC car but the speed controller I have keeps the speed down low enough to be able to allow the media to grind the powder because if you go to fast like 75rpm the media will start to stick to the wall and rotate with the powder and not crush it much. Now a lot of people will say they use 90rpm and that’s for the rock tumbler so mine is much more efficient and I can control the speed much better than the harbor freight rock tumbler. The battery I made is homemade 12 volts in a 3s 3p configuration and they are 18650 cells so on my channel I have a video I uploaded a week ago called Icy breeze update and I show the battery there.
@@E85_STI cool thanks
Glad containers are not static resistant I think it through you’ve gotten away with this so far. The burns are forever if you survive.
Why granulation is important?
I mix them in coffee mixer. It give me ffffine powder.
Why corned is important
So as long as you don’t grind all three together you’ll be fine but the granulation process is important because when you wet the powder the water breaks down the nitrate and it absorbs it into the charcoal so that gives you a better mixture than just mixing them dry. Also once granulated the powder doesn’t dust as much when using it to press.
You ever use red gum bp?
No haven’t tried it yet but I’ve heard someone mention it before. How does it work vs traditional black powder?
I don't think it slows it down at all but doesn't seem to make the granuals as hard as dextren! But it also doesn't need to be milled to produce fast powerful bp
@@treemaster2012 what’s the ratio with the red gum
@E85STI it's basically the same about 3% per 100g but you mix the red gum into Denatured alcohol then ad to your meal D
@@treemaster2012 oh alright yeah I’ll have to try it and do you have a video of the process and results?