@@enchiladaslayer61 Honestly it depends on a lot of things. If everyone throws themself into it its really fun but if they're self conscious its cringe.
If you think the rust drama is bad. Remember when Charlie freaked out on the guy who made the racist comment on Twitch. ruclips.net/video/yNk8jFnAKsk/видео.html
I'd like to see the streamers vs the vets, sam included, he wants to cry about pvp, pretty sure they'd quit after 20 min of people actually playing competitively.
Kinda bit late but in one of his streams someone asked if charlie ever apologize to sir winter, he answered that he didn't say any specific names so he didn't need to apologize to anyone
When the big streamers do it they’re making a fun villain dynamic. But when a small streamer does it, he’s a sweaty tryhard ruining everyone’s fun. Even when he very clearly wasn’t tryharding at all and it got blown out of proportion.
Nah, the rpers who couldn’t make it on to the rp server would’ve still complained about getting killed in a kos zone. Only by smaller content creators, though. They won’t complain about the ones bigger than them.
There are a small few in the rust community that are not toxic. Me and my friends have some random person in our base in a cell that just sings for us. We do not know why, but he does.
there is a small few in rust who ARE toxic. I dont get why people like you that probably have about 25 hrs in the game think they know everything when they never got off the beach. I'd bet you $1000 if you go to a community server and say you are new, people will help you. Official servers are for experts at the game and giant clans who act toxic to get rivals. You people all try to play with the most competative people in the game as noobs then wonder why you had a bad time... You might as well go try to beat a max level zone in DS as a level 1.
Ser winter didn’t deserve to be banned he wasn’t invited to the discord so he couldn’t read the rules. Also the “bush camping” thing is so blown out of proportion it’s actually funny
@@ncrtrooper245 Even if a 30000 hour player "doesn't try that hard" they can still ruin the server for everyone else. A lot of Rust tryhards couldn't help themselves but many did have basic restraint and awareness.
Felt. For sure parallels Rust but in my experience it was the newer people. Most veterans either time skip or don't give a shit about timeskipping. I swear it was mostly new players saying they were getting the "best" experience because they were playing the game the "right" way.
Its mildly suprising how much backlash he got for finding cover when he heard gunshots. He clearly was not camping in the bush for any amount of time and it just turned into a wrong place/wrong time situation for the other streamer who took it way to poorly and used their position to pressure serwinter to be punished for a normal gameplay movement.
Love it when big streamers with tiny fragile egos meet the guys who bring them down to reality. Ser winter, zuckles and stimpee were in the right 100%. Xqc and co. (Minus Charlie cause he just wanted to have fun) can be toxic to others and they dont bat an eye. As soon as someone dishes it back they can't handle it and have emotional breakdowns whilst streaming. Literal man and women children that plague twitch and RUclips.
I really don't like XQC, but that wasn't KOS after the no KOS rule was put in place. And he didn't say anything about Ser Winter, hell, the video isn't even about what actually happened on the server. Its about the Rust community swarming in and saying the game has to be played a certain way, and people have no right to set up private servers with specific rules.
hes saying that the private server was meant for chilling and having fun, not for sweating and making the sever a death match. if they want to sweat and kill they should go into another sever
@@butpooriri7276 Wait what? Did I attack Charlie somehow!? Does he seem misserable to you? Obviously I'm talking about the same misserable tryhards he's talking about.
Wow this was surprising from Charlie. From the clips I watched avout ser winter's "toxicity" I was biased against him myself. It took me about 10-20 minutes of watching Ser Winter's video to see that Ser Winter was in the right here. Trainwrecks was being a complete asshole, enough people have explained that.. As for the kill on xQc, Ser Winter went to a PVP zone where he heard gunshots. He literally ran away from xqc once he realized it was him, seemingly to avoid more drama. Xqc gallopped his horse over to Ser Winter with his bow drawn, and Winter shotgunned him. Idk X was kind of trying to RP maybe? But Winter not being familiar with RP and primarily being a Rust player, that behavior from X is a huge red flag that you're about to get killed. Is Winter supposed to just bow down and hope x doesnt kill him and just RPs on a PVP server? If any one watches X's RP on GTA, he makes very questionable decisions that are borderline RDM himself, pretty biased for X viewers to come attack Ser Winter on his stream for simply protecting himselg. Then the situation with LuluLovely, Winter was pretty worked up from being bullied in chat and every thing, and sort of made a judgment error by "RPing as a caveman". He says in the video it was the one kill he actually felt bad about and later he made up with Lulu and apologized. For the rest of the video he avoided any one that he KOS'd in the beginning, when he didn't understand the rules (because he wasnt invited to the discord), just to avoid any drama. Sometimes Ser Winter would die from kill-on-sighters because he was trying to decide whether or not he should shoot, yet he was the one who got banned and blamed when he RP'd way more than most people in the North. In fact, I didn't plan on watching the entirety of Winter's video, just wanted to get his perspective, however, I got sucked in to his 2 hour long video and was sad when it ended, which goes to show how good his content was. When he went South and had all those wholesome moments whilst talking about his war-flogged time in the North and acted like he had PTSD, that was awesome. Not to mention all that fun he had in the North despite the dramatic BS. Then they ban and blame Ser Winter, when his content, both RP and PVP, was arguably some of the best on the server. I watched some of the bigger streamers gameplay and they actually killed on sight nearly the whole time, way more than Winter, whilst Winter did so very sparingly after understanding the rules, yet he gets banned? All this very clearly shows how biased the comminity is towards bigger streamers. All this has wildly changed my perspective on a lot of the bigger streamers and the Twitch community as a whole. What a sad situation.
Yeah after i saw the clips in the beginning of ser's video i was saying that it was impossible for me to agree with ser bit immediately changed my mind when i saw trainwreck's tweet about winter's fiancee it made me super angry (i usually don't get angry over dumb arguments on the internet) but jesus he made personal faster than his dad leaving him
I came to the realisation that these content creators sell themselves out pretty easily, you can tell when they care more about the clout and money because they are streaming all day every day and streaming themselves doing just about anything even if its not playing video games. On youtube they pump out videos daily and generate drama constantly to keep themselves talked about. These people should be avoided, dont give them a view, dont discuss them, let them do their thing alone in the dark. People like Ser Winter or Stimpee are content creators who do it for fun and a laugh and the profit on the side is a nice bonus for them, they do what they love and love it when others enjoy it too. People like xQc are in it for fame and money, xQc has basically no real personality outside of angsty, angry dude playing vidya.
The OTV server is what I’d imagine rust was meant to be played like. A lot of PVP yet role play elements too, or atleast not killing everyone on sight.
@@Jdicjsbciendufieb You still find this out there on public servers. You just have to search. There are a lot of toxic pvpers but it makes it even more fun because you and your allies have a common enemy. If everyone was nice it wouldn't be as fun. With the chads playing everything is high stakes
@@NoXtRiY Yep. Now people just gun everyone down on-sight and teabag the ever-living fuck outta them while screaming the N word and F slur. It isn't necessarily a bad thing because 30 year-old virgins still living with their parents enjoy that shit, but there's no reason to go off about it on a private server that was specifically made for Twitch streamers and RUclipsrs to create content on. The game is a toxic cesspool now and I just have no reason to play. I'm not dogging on the people that enjoy it still, but I personally prefer to watch videos about it then going in there and experiencing it myself again.
I mean the people that say "They aren't playing the real rust" are the ones that are teaming in 10+ clans with 3 man rotations and slave miners. They also probably play on 10x+ resource lol
I play vanilla or 2x with a group of 3 (over 1k hours) and I don't think the way they are playing is wrong. Roleplaying does happen in rust, just not on every server. I see nothing wrong with having fun in a game lmao
I think the problem is that rust has been infested and taken over by these dominance complex having lowlife wannabe-chad garbage child nobodies, who all they want is to be better than the next person. They laugh in the face of whoever doesnt have at least a semi or shotty after downing them and cry when at some point the other guy gets the upper hand. Grade a dickheads is what I mean.
Personally, I sort of just disliked the fact that the more og Rust content creators such as (Some may have skins, forgive me if I say they do not) Welyn, Stevie, Blooprint, Frost, Hjune, Posty, Trausi, etc do not have skins featured but then comes in the OTV and other streamers such as Shroud and Jack to get skins when they begin streaming Rust. Now, I do not know if there are circumstances where they do not care or if they have to do something in particular to get a skin added, so it could make my comment invalid if there is. But, it seems like Swales is getting a skin, which is something that will hopefully get the others to get their skins. I understand that these are twitch drops, but to my understanding so is Swales’ skin. Which then begs the question: Why the new Rust streamers first and the OG ones second? Finally, I would like to say it is great for Rust to have all this publicity, hopefully would have more filled servers, but it would have been nice for the game to blow up due to its own self rather than due to a massive blowup. Although I don’t really care for the OTV Server streams, wtf is wrong with people just having a good time?
I played ARK for a few years and I love it, but I bought rust the other day in sale and everyone on non-official servers are so nice, giving new players stuff they don't need, letting other people in on raids AFTER blowing the doors and leaving some good stuff on your body if they kill you. The ark community is so much more toxic imo.
I'm a rust player, I'm not toxic or racist. at the start I did think about the server not being real, I thought about it and understood that its okay to make a privet server to have fun and role play BUT most of the big streamers community are little kids(12-) and they will pay the 40$ for the game, they will think they can role play like the streamers but they will be killed every 5 mins so I think every streamer should at least mention that its not the "real rust expiries". most of them doesnt have the money to buy a privet server. I have 600 hours on the game and I have a lot of fun playing it.
@pizza time stfu I’m in ur loot room at 5am #NotMyFaultUrDogShit your mad I have ur boom and ak’s but I took them for a good reason because you can’t even spray them. Your such a wired little freak stop talking about my game Bc u don’t understand it
I think it’s crazy how all these streamers and youtubers who previously never would have collabed with each other are all playing on the same rust server
I’ve owned rust for 4 years, and the community has definitely changed a lot over the years. It used to be less toxicity and more just trash talking each other on how bad you were, and now it’s gotten pretty bad like you said. If people want to make their own private server, go for it, I don’t blame you. Rust has some losers who played the game 18 hours a day and make it unfun because they stay up all night getting better stuff and raiding you while you’re at work or school. Glad to see all the new players, though. To anyone just picking up the game, good luck and I hope you have fun
Can you make private servers on Rust? I don't own the game but watching all of the different livestreams on it made me want to try out the game. But then I heard how toxic the public servers are so I've been on the fence. I don't put up with that level of toxicity in my real life, I don't need it in my videogames. But yeah if a person can start their own private server I'd be more tempted to get it.
@@BRENNONZAHROmaybe you should actually research was he is talking about before you side with cr1tikal. I like cr1tikal but on this vid he never actually saw what happened because a guy in a pvp zone stood in a bush for less than ten seconds to kill a guy
@@b1nguz i commented this 4 months ago bruh also i stand by my opinion i know everything about the incident and i initially had the same reaction as critikal before seeing his video. He stood there 10 seconds which is still bush camping and he wouldve probably stayed longer if he wasnt lucky.
@@BRENNONZAHRO What Ser Winter did is no different than if he is on a cliff, sees someone running towards him, moves back out of view until the enemy gets closer, and then peeks over the cliff to mow them down. The target was acquired BEFORE using the cliff, or bush, or tree, or whatever. Bush camping generally means that some rat sits in a bush for a long time hoping someone randomly runs by. That is not the same as SEEING the target BEFOREHAND and using the environment to your advantage to kill them. Killing people from a bush doesn't automatically make you a bush camper, the same way that shooting raiders from your roof doesn't make you a roof camper.
@@hoonk1896 idk man, their are good RP I watched from captain jack and some other guys he co ops with, hell even pvp is part of the rp, sometimes on the other side of the coin a lot of people just want to destroy shit and ruin the community I don't know anything about ark tho, yeah I see the trolling is funny but the owners who are trolling (theyoutubers) just gives them back resources they destroyed, maybe the p2w or p2 play owners (the cunts I like to call) are just in it for the greed
This happens with a lot of shit that has a smaller but dedicated fan base. It's like when an artist has their first commercial hit and all of the "true fans" are like "wow bro you fell off you were so much better when you had to eat carboard to survive".
I genuinely am annoyed this video is up without ever apologizing to Ser Winter for being the main antagonist you framed up here. You clearly made it sound worse then a simple mild bad thing he done, that wasn't the main issue. That's why you pay attention to the truth by listening to both sides of a story and piecing the proper facts from there.
Love how some people talking about the Sir winter ban were like “He CoUlD’vE hElPeD hIs CaReEr” but if you ever watched the dudes stream, he seemed to just be happy that he gets to play the game he loves with other streamers rather than being some clout chaser like everyone says he was
I’ve never seen Charlie be so wrong about something in his entire RUclips career. Xqc is literally the most toxic streamer on the platform. Crazy that anyone could defend his actions during that time
I hate to be this guy, but rust was never meant to be a role playing game. Short wipes are specifically because the goal is to kill people, become king, and start fresh. They don’t have wipeless servers for a reason. If you want to role play there’s games built for that.
@@TipsyFGC Just because it wasn’t meant for RP, doesn’t mean they can’t RP. It’s their server and they can play how they want. If somebody wants to come in and not follow the rules, they deserve the ban.
@@TipsyFGC But that's dumb as shit. So what if there are "better" games to roleplay in. If people are having fun doing it in the wrong game it really doesn't matter.
@@imranalvi5189 why do you care, just because someone has a audience doesn’t mean that they(audience) get to control them and if you think thats how a content creator should have to live then your following people for reasons you shouldn’t.!
@@aidendunlap9353 bro who said that cause Ik damn well I didn’t. Don’t put words in my mouth . All i said was you a bunch of babies for arguing. You just like the fool above keep whining.
One thing I noticed with streamers is that when they do get killed no matter the situation, they throw a dramatic hissy fit. Literally just watched one of them get killed by a scientist and quit the game.
Train wreck was ABSURDLY toxic to ser winter when he wasn’t even camping and this slander campaign is suggesting that he was mindlessly killing. I’ve never heard of ser winter before this but when I saw his side it was quite clear trainwrecks was in the wrong.
@@EjvindGEMDark Ive watched ser winter for 4 years and as he explained in his video about the situation he normally doesn't kill on site but when he sees a gun in someones hand he would shoot and he heard mp5 shots and I can confirm train wreck would have shot him on site and then treated him like crap when ser said said he'd revive him but he was being toxic and salty and then made up he bush camped
It's weird? Charlie has been wrong at least 40% of the time with takes. He's insecure and defends his RUclips buddies. Then tries to call others insecure for just defending themselves. He's a below average IQ RUclipsr with little knowledge on almost anything who got fame for talking about random stuff and memes. It isn't surprising at all. It isn't like he's some Harvard Professor.
This situation is just like when a band becomes popular and their old fans suddenly get bitter that they aren't the only ones enjoying the band's music anymore.
Weeeeeeeeell, many bands I've followed have turned to the mainstream. Changing their sound, getting a new audience while not caring about their old ones -- just in it for the fame. Rust KINDA does it the same way, but it's fun because it's 90% PVP'ers and Facepunch haven't added a gun in AGES all while adding RP shit, and the PVP'ers go like crying wojak and still play it
Charlie just sucks and keeps getting owned. he is just salty and is attacking the game to make up for his inadequacies. Its what all new players do when they meet a challenge they were not expecting. the difference is, most little kids throwing a tantrum dont have a million subs licking his b hole telling him he is right, and not a childish whiner at all.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 so you think toxicity and racism should be considered the norm and allow it to be ‘the real way to play rust’? Did you even listen to the video? Or is your brain just so rotted that all you can think is ‘haha boy fire gun boy angery. Oh haha that white person just called someone a dirty n*****.’
i think thats people being upset that the bands style changed since the early days more than anything else. like alot of Thrash bands changed their sound in the 90s, because of pressure from their labels or just because they felt like it. but then again some people seem to think popular = bad so idk.
Just watched Ser Winter’s video about the situation. Really feel like he didn’t do anything wrong. Just large youtubers hating on a smaller RUclipsr. Sad state of affairs
@@0re0n He isn’t part of the community of OTV as much as the others and his 500k subscribers is tiny compared to the millions of other followers that are truly friends with train penquin etc
Another year on and I still watch that stimpee video, he was banned by the brother of the guy he killed who was an admin It was just admin abuse, fullstop.
the ser winter clip if cut properly looks like he was sat in a bush but he literally walked through it, biggest of R.I.P's. he ended up getting death threats and his partner was dragged through the mud on twitter
I saw it live while xqc was playing. He literally saw the guy running down the road while also running, ducked through some trees and came out shooting all in like a 10 sec moment. Then sidestepped while looting and they started saying he was teabagging...
I haven't even watched more than ten minutes of otv's server but I can tell you now if they're not enjoying it for whatever reason I want to see them try playing on a public server
@Rambunctious Koala You didn't really clarify anything about the drama, or why just because something is toxic people use it as an excuse to justify the actions of another. Don't get me wrong your explanation about the game's community was great but it answers nothing about what I was specifically asking.
I guarantee you most of them are just trolling, but then there's always a couple special people who don't get it and take it too far, and once you get a bit of drama shits fucked anyways lol
@@Failzz8 Most of them are actually not trolling. Most people are salty because ''their'' game is played by noobs that are popular, and not in a way that is normal for rust. Some people just aren't intelligent enough to see things other way.
I remember CinnamonToastKen from Polaris Select, a show on DisneyXD, and this also had Jacksepticeye, Markiplier, ParkerPlays, and some other smaller youtubers than those. Its a nostalgic show for me too
Moreover, almost everything he said was a lie. Somehow he got door amped when nowhere in the VOD could you see his base, he was planting berries while running down a fully paved road, and he was bush camped even though Ser Winter was in the bush for less than 5 seconds. Let's not even get started on xqc, the person who wants to kos everyone, but if someone kills him once he bitches all day and calls you a stream sniper. He did it in the first otv server and he continued to do it no matter what server he was in. There is a reason his fanbase is so toxic.
@@greiratOS “to be fair” nono there is nothing fair about the bullshit train did. Lying about how u died and villianising some guy that killed you ONCE is more than just “shit talk”, as train put it later. The dude has serious issues, and the fact he has issues before rust should not be an excuse for shitty behaviour. The same with XQC, like the main defense i see for the bs he pulls is that “lolol he’s always like that u should know lol” - maybe that’s a problem?? Maybe acting like a mnachild and dragging peeps through the mud over a viddy game is something that shouldn’t be praised or normalised. Train even went to twitter to shit on Winter and his fiance, he later claims it was a joke but reading the tweet you can tell it’s obviously not lmao. He then proceeds to scream it was a joke on twitch and calls Winter fans fucking dumb for thinking otherwise. Nice joke train, jesus that guy’s such a toxic asshole 👀
@@ocelot9680 nah that quote is the only good thing to come from the server im glad OTV moved to minecraft because there aren't grown ass manchildren managing to get a streamer and his fiancee harassed and sent death threats because he got killed in a videogame on minecraft
@@AcidAdventurer funny how that whole situation didn't get mentioned here. Spoon did full RP and then others just killed his horse and destroyed his RP for no reason. Then they banned spoon for retaliating.
Ser winter deserves an apology and is actually a very chill streamer. I just finished watching his perspective on things. Train deserves to Apologize to him for talking so much shit about his wife and spreading so much false information on the guy.
@@EJionix Check the youtube channel Ser Winter. Their newest video covers his perspective of what happened and his interactions with all those toxic streamers.
Why are all these Winter fanboys commenting on this video as of Charlie ever brought him up on this video. Even responded on Twitch that he had no idea that Ser Winter was even involved in any drama.
@@the03k the rumors he talks about at the end are about Sir Winter and his ban. That was the "Rust Drama" that happened. Just because he didn't name drop doesn't mean he isn't explicitly talking about Sir Winter. He was the only "sweaty tryhard" "camping bushes for 30 minutes" that got banned, so it's not a question who he was talking about. He heard his teammates and fellow big streamers cry about getting owned, and he believed the lies he was told.
Train was completely in the wrong. He was kitted with a gun, got owned, was toxic about it, then threw a hissy fit. I'm not a hardcore Rust player, but Ser Winter did nothing wrong and Train was completely out of line.
Jeah Trainwreck was toxic and jeah ser winter wasnt a dick in that situation BUT i saw all the footage and i play since legacy...alone his attitude about streamer and how he play shows that he did not fit with that kind of server...sure he not the sweaty monster what the streamers projekt him but he isnt innocent either...he know what he was doing and he killed some player rly public rust like...so chill... charlie is right in this video.... he never mention sir winter just rust pros in general and he had/hav a faire point so gf hf bb
Fun fact, Ser Winter never bush camp, he went into a bush to hide from a person with a gun and was shooting, killed the person with the gun, and was planning to pick him up, but Train (The person killed) was being rude to him and in response Winter killed him. Train then went onto chat to harrass Winter for "Bush camping and tbagging him" which if you watched Winter's vods he didn't do any of those. He even offered to show Train his side of the story which train refused to see it. And 9/10 I bet Train would've killed Winter of given the chance. And before the train drama Ser Winter also didn't mindless kill Garrett who people were saying he was a naked. Truth is Garrett was in a Hazmat and hiding by a street, Winter who wasn't expecting him shot Garrett and the two exchanged a few shots but Garrett was killed, Garrett then went to chat and harassed Winter. Winter frustrated killed a random naked which in his video address the drama said it was stupid and he regretted it. In fact the player killed in that situation met Winter again and Winter apologized for it and she accepted the apology and it was over. I recommend Winter's 2 hour long video in the matter which shows his vods and his explanation and how much of a dick everyone was to him.
Also Train harassed Winter for having a prominent youtube channel and was using it as an insult. Honestly, train was being an absolute dick and actively ignored Winter's attempts to show train his side of the story.
@@daroachdawgjr A game with very low lows is going to naturally have higher highs. You just have to be able to deal with the super low lows. Someone shows up with an insult that hits you right where it hurts without them knowing a single thing about you as they shoot you and steal ur stuff that you spend hours collecting, you bounce back take revenge and level their entire base as they squeal and call you all kinds of racist slurs with a tone that sounds as if they're about to cry and you just bathe in their salt.
Well this game is super toxic. Its encouraged to kill and just loot people. Would you rather grind for hours for material? Or just kill someone and steal their stuff?
@@KattalystFr Not Gta grinders, those guys just mind there own business getting money and occasionally kill players if they got themselves a new toy, it's the God dam KD hunters and try hards who ruin the game for others just because they have nothing better in their life to do.
The people who get mad about you guys not playing rust "correctly" never played it when it came out, when it came out it was so fun and you really only killed for fun now people play it more as a shooter and not a survival fun game, Faceless made a whole video about it
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Ser Winter literally was pvping in areas prominently meant for pvp and actively avoid places were it was solely rp. They’re being so hypocritical about “oh I can only enjoy it this way” when some people were playing the way they wanted to
I watch his video on it and it is really sad how big streamers treat smaller streamers way more toxic than other bigger streamers and that they can only be right. Train didn't even care to see what actually happened and ofc he was believed because he is a big streamer and no one cared to validate his "claims" ( lies ). and how they kept whining was really obnoxious.
I like to play rust but even I’m not that harsh, I even try to help up players that I’ve downed in a fight or say gg in the chat. Some people on that game are real assholes though
@@Mooker_43 dude I've been doing that since very recently. I offered to make this dude a house and protection and in the middle he eokaed me and tried to run off with my stuff so I'm done being cool with people now
No mindless killing, yet XQC mindlessly killed Winter several times and 3rd partied himself several times. As for the girl Ser apologized to her later and explained why he did it and she accepted the apology. Blood (or whatever his name was) had a kill counter twice the size of Winter and when Winter died he GGd multiple times. Picked people up when he downed them and realized they were the ones trying to kill him, he even did prank calls, gave out more than a few rad suits, hunted down a toxic player who stole someone's loot and left the team, yet no one even talked to Winter before banning him. Abe should have atleast viewed the clips and saw what happened before banning him, team rocket broke the rules so many times and were ignored, they raided a solo player for something another team did.
could have just said he might have looked at the wrong sources, but you had to say it in this stupid fucking format that makes me want to jump off a bridge.
You've got it all wrong man. I've never watched "Ser Winter" (the guy who got banned) or heard of him before, but I just watched his POV of his entire stream and it's insane how wrongly he was painted when he literally only killed in the PVP zone and even there he was pretty tame, and he still RP'd a lot too. It was the louder voices of some of the bigger streamers that painted him as a sweaty bushcamper, when he never even bushcamped (he was running down the road after hearing shots and saw someone in the PVP zone before they saw him so he stepped into the bush for 3 seconds - you can count - to get a better vantage point). Watch the VOD on his youtube channel, he was legit so tame relative to people like xQC who kill on sight 24/7. It's so frustrating to see.
Been watching winter for 3+ years. I stopped a while back because i didn't like his more rp style content lmao. If someone is geared up the way train was in that clip, especially after gun shots, they're going to get into a fight and its totally warranted. Glad to see people doing there research.
same with blood. he had no say in if he gets banned or not it was just xqc saying he was streamsniping and he was raging and he was banned. he didnt even knew he was banned. which is just not fair.
@@maxhayer5241 He subscribes to the Nuxanor way of life "be toxic to toxic people and wholesome to wholesome people". Welyn definitely IS what you'd describe as toxic... to people that were extremely toxic to him first.
to be fair, rust is kinda about the "true experience" basing with friends and talking with complete strangers is what gives the game replaybility in a month the private server isn't gonna be fun because its gonna just be the same things over again
Yeah, everyone had their own way to enjoy something. Saying "thats not the true experience" is like saying, thats not how you walk. Rust is a survival game, but that doesnt mean you only try to survive and KOS, its still a game, most game is made so that other can enjoy them. You can RP, you can make trap or experiment with stuff, you can do whatever you want. Cya.
It's like saying that "since I don't have friends to play private games, I think that it's wrong" like if it's wrong why would the devs allow a private room
you don´t have to be toxic (racist/homophobic) nor salt (like xqc) to enjoy rust on a official server. other maybe will be and that´s up to you decide how to react. many professional rust players ARE roleplayers and DO their role playing DESPITE the haters on the server. how? getting good at the game mechanics so no arsehole maniac can prevent them of doing it
So heres the issue. The person in question was given conflicting rules prior to entering the game. He wasn't invited to the discord It was literally one kill where one person hid in a bush for 4 seconds. Then after learning the true nature of the server he started playing by the rules. You made him sound like some sort of cod player but it really was a limited bad behavior.
Kinda bummed this wasn’t about people not putting their trash cans out.
@@dontreadmyprofilepicture1191 cool
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Oh shit thanks for the reminder
You can melt tuna cans for metal frag
I seriously thought that's what it would be about lol
"not the lame roleplay, i was roleplaying as the god of trash"
I like the C418 profile pic, very nice
LOL, funny but true.
Honestly I thought the idea of "role-playing" was cringe but I've seen some videos and it's actually really entertaining
@@enchiladaslayer61 Well you could also say improve or acting but rp sums them up together.
@@enchiladaslayer61 Honestly it depends on a lot of things. If everyone throws themself into it its really fun but if they're self conscious its cringe.
Love that Charlie implements his love and passion of the whole garbage industry into his other hobbies
Let’s see how many subs I can gain from this comment
(I’m at 44 right now)
i think i’m genuinely starting to have intrests in garbage
@@nurutokun2532 no
@@nurutokun2532 don't give him subs, but watch my shitty videos n like them
@@nurutokun2532 go away
:(
yo what’s good winter
if only they knew
Damn back then I thought you were in the wrong, sorry man.
Yep sucks to see but hey fuck em keep living your best life
Good to see you.
Fun Fact: It's not the people who started this drama, but the trees not getting hit by naked dudes
"I am the snorlax, I speak for the trees."
the trees say CHÚNG TÔI ĐANG Ở TRÊN CÂY ĂN NHỮNG QUE PUNJI
@@tokumo2190 what does that mean in English?
If you think the rust drama is bad. Remember when Charlie freaked out on the guy who made the racist comment on Twitch.
ruclips.net/video/yNk8jFnAKsk/видео.html
@@johnpears9558 i forgot but i think it says we are in the trees eat punji sticks
this drama is making me think of what horrible war crimes General Sam could commit on this server
id also like to see stimpee on there too
I really hope this happens it will be glorious
@Cony Budding this is way too specific to just be a theory lmao
@Cony Budding cool story my sibling
I'd like to see the streamers vs the vets, sam included, he wants to cry about pvp, pretty sure they'd quit after 20 min of people actually playing competitively.
I’ll be honest, I thought “Rust Drama” was a joke title until he actually started to seriously explain it...
ruclips.net/video/s-RY8D74Y0w/видео.html
Who ever is reading this have a blessed day stay safe!!
Small youtuber looking for your support here
@@SalamiHoopz go away bot.
Let’s see how many subs I can gain from this comment
(I’m at 44 right now)
@@SalamiHoopz stop spamming every comment with this....bot
Charlie is right, there is a right and wrong side. He's just wrong about which side is which.
lol yea, unfortunately. Did he ever bring up that he was wrong?
@@avgblue5180 nope don’t think so sorry Charlie gonna have to take an L on this one
Kinda bit late but in one of his streams someone asked if charlie ever apologize to sir winter, he answered that he didn't say any specific names so he didn't need to apologize to anyone
@@xNytusDamn, that is such a copout :(
@@xNytus Oh damn I haven't seen the whole story, only watched stimpee videos on it and obv i am kinda late to this, so could someone fill me in?
Others using voice chat on rust: racist stuff
Charlie: IM THE TRASH MAN!
Cringe
@@user-wz7dq9pd5c yeah sorry
I’m watching this video while typing my 2 essay bullshit assignment for ccd about 10 fucking saints
@@jaredsabatelli2459 I mean... That's completely unrelated... But I feel your pain. Id throw that essay out the window asap
@@user-wz7dq9pd5c Cringe
This man could talk for 3 hours straight and not repeat a single word
Truth, he knows every way of saying cock and balls
Pp & eggsack
And us.. who could only repeat saying he looks like Jesus
It’s honestly a talent. Charlie is an excellent speaker, especially when you realize he rarely has any cuts in his videos.
Stolen comment
I hate backseat gamers.They don’t understand that this is all for content and is obviously gonna be played different.
*OMG no way i think i found bryce hall channel, bro it’s crazy here’s a link* ruclips.net/video/xPxgF4K_h7g/видео.html
@@riskyy2657 no
ruclips.net/video/s-RY8D74Y0w/видео.html
They're stupid as hell, it makes me PHYSICALLY upset. I love watching other people enjoy games their own way.
@mystic〥 grass? too far bro, too far.
When the big streamers do it they’re making a fun villain dynamic. But when a small streamer does it, he’s a sweaty tryhard ruining everyone’s fun. Even when he very clearly wasn’t tryharding at all and it got blown out of proportion.
who are they all calling out as the 'sweat' by the way? (obv i am kinda late to this)
If you are having fun playing a game it means you are playing the game the right way. That's the whole point
Me raging every league of legends game I play: yeah, love it
Even to hackers?
@@attackcrash655 hacking isn't fun
Not exactly
@@xKuukkelix Hacking would be fun af. I would love to hack a cod game for one day.
how and where every bit of rust drama starts... as a naked, on the beach
Is that a Stevie reference 😂
Nice reference
Yes
And then some roof campers shoot you with a L96
Ahh nice one
"you're limited only by your imagination.. and.. a million other things" LOL
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if xqc was never invited there would legitimately be zero drama
Lol
And would be an insanely boring fairyland
@@iJayx true
It’d be boring af
Nah, the rpers who couldn’t make it on to the rp server would’ve still complained about getting killed in a kos zone. Only by smaller content creators, though. They won’t complain about the ones bigger than them.
There are a small few in the rust community that are not toxic. Me and my friends have some random person in our base in a cell that just sings for us. We do not know why, but he does.
he's an scp
there is a small few in rust who ARE toxic. I dont get why people like you that probably have about 25 hrs in the game think they know everything when they never got off the beach. I'd bet you $1000 if you go to a community server and say you are new, people will help you. Official servers are for experts at the game and giant clans who act toxic to get rivals. You people all try to play with the most competative people in the game as noobs then wonder why you had a bad time... You might as well go try to beat a max level zone in DS as a level 1.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 it’s quite ironic how toxic this comment was
@@noobishcontainment breach.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 ironic how this comment is toxic as hell
“Lunch table outcast” is the greatest roast I’ve ever heard.
He couldve done better. It doesn't fit coming from a man with 2 3foot dildos
Thats what I thoght I just said damnnn
Lunch table outcast sounds like most youtubers
Especially with the whole Carson shit goin on.
idk why I find this funny but I do ruclips.net/video/reWHqfir_xw/видео.html
"why are you having fun? stop having fun."
Lol sounds like Overwatch to me 😂😂
>league of legends
When I accidentally get into a ranked match in a fighting game
boondocks
@@rodrigo_tm I’m playing it now and you’re sooo right (help me) 🙃
Ser winter didn’t deserve to be banned he wasn’t invited to the discord so he couldn’t read the rules. Also the “bush camping” thing is so blown out of proportion it’s actually funny
Ik but still his fault for tryharding its an RP server meant to chill not kill for no reason he aint in public server
@@Cimuro he wasn’t even trying that hard
@@Cimuro wasn't fully rp server tho
@@ncrtrooper245 Even if a 30000 hour player "doesn't try that hard" they can still ruin the server for everyone else. A lot of Rust tryhards couldn't help themselves but many did have basic restraint and awareness.
@@j.a.6310 So because he’s a good player, he’s not allowed to play with others?
"These puritans that think there's only one way to play"
Animal Crossing community: :|
Read this as he said it
South Africa
the acnh community is so aids lol, NO tImE SkIPpiNG ):(
I'm gonna need some context g, am I doing something wrong?
Felt. For sure parallels Rust but in my experience it was the newer people. Most veterans either time skip or don't give a shit about timeskipping. I swear it was mostly new players saying they were getting the "best" experience because they were playing the game the "right" way.
“It’s like the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.”
Gotta appreciate the comparison of Rust servers to the breakout of World War 1.
Yes it was very appropriate
I literally was searching for the comments section for this hahahah
Considering how much toxic Balkan servers for Rust are it's expecially like the start of WW1 lol
Happened to read this at the exact moment he said it...not a coincidence lol
Yes, we get the reference
Ser Winter sat in a bush for 5 seconds. Trainwreck's reply to the situation was just sad and immature.
Factual
mad cuz bad
Its mildly suprising how much backlash he got for finding cover when he heard gunshots. He clearly was not camping in the bush for any amount of time and it just turned into a wrong place/wrong time situation for the other streamer who took it way to poorly and used their position to pressure serwinter to be punished for a normal gameplay movement.
Were you surprised when it happened? Train can’t take any Ls
True
Love it when big streamers with tiny fragile egos meet the guys who bring them down to reality.
Ser winter, zuckles and stimpee were in the right 100%.
Xqc and co. (Minus Charlie cause he just wanted to have fun) can be toxic to others and they dont bat an eye. As soon as someone dishes it back they can't handle it and have emotional breakdowns whilst streaming. Literal man and women children that plague twitch and RUclips.
Don’t forget swagger
Why is there a G-Fuel fridge blocking the door Charlie? Who's out there trying to get you?
That's a closet. So I'd guess the Boogeyman, or Tom Cruise.
God
Sully from Monsters Inc. is after him.
It’s the fleshlight collector
People angry at charlie for playing rust
Didn’t you read the game requirements? Racism, hatred, despair, sadness, and a mic is needed
exactly
Yeah that's why it's fun (don't agree with the racism tho)
$5 mics*
i have ~5000 hours on rust and can confirm
but also the game has turned me into a ruthless maniac who loves causing havoc
You guys do understand that this comment is sarcastic?
This drama is like survival Minecraft players getting mad at people who play in creative or on servers
Who the Fuk? They need to be put in a mob grinder for such stupidity
Lmao
@Bread wither arena*
Idc about servers but people that only play in creative but dont use it to create stuff and just pretend to play survival that annoys me
@@TheRealRusDaddy ok that's what peaceful mode is for lol
Charlie cant even defend XQC, dude was actively pvping someone and got killed, instantly called ser winter a bush camper in the middle of a desert...
And x said him self that only way to play is violence
@@skunkmonkey214 proving he can't play shit
Got his ego hurt
I really don't like XQC, but that wasn't KOS after the no KOS rule was put in place.
And he didn't say anything about Ser Winter, hell, the video isn't even about what actually happened on the server. Its about the Rust community swarming in and saying the game has to be played a certain way, and people have no right to set up private servers with specific rules.
@@llamaczech the whole second half of the video was about specific instances on the server
Charlie: *The only guy who gets perfect score in essay*
*a *an ... point proven i guess
@@DasHackii *I guess
@@cap_hella4576 *you guess
@@DasHackii You forgot uppercase first letters, quotation marks, periods, and commas.
Jesus. You are all neck-beards
Spoonkid would be the perfect addition to the server. He’s the most chill person and a good rp’er but also a good player
True
He actually got into the server
yes and nice prof pic
yes spoon kid for sure
True
Sounds like "If I can't have it, neither can you" mentality... everybody should apparently be equally misserable in Rust.
So depressing
hes saying that the private server was meant for chilling and having fun, not for sweating and making the sever a death match. if they want to sweat and kill they should go into another sever
@@butpooriri7276 yes this comment was defending Charlie’s point
@@DogeDogeriffic thank you! I thought that was obvious...
@@butpooriri7276 Wait what? Did I attack Charlie somehow!? Does he seem misserable to you? Obviously I'm talking about the same misserable tryhards he's talking about.
Wow this was surprising from Charlie. From the clips I watched avout ser winter's "toxicity" I was biased against him myself. It took me about 10-20 minutes of watching Ser Winter's video to see that Ser Winter was in the right here. Trainwrecks was being a complete asshole, enough people have explained that.. As for the kill on xQc, Ser Winter went to a PVP zone where he heard gunshots. He literally ran away from xqc once he realized it was him, seemingly to avoid more drama. Xqc gallopped his horse over to Ser Winter with his bow drawn, and Winter shotgunned him. Idk X was kind of trying to RP maybe? But Winter not being familiar with RP and primarily being a Rust player, that behavior from X is a huge red flag that you're about to get killed. Is Winter supposed to just bow down and hope x doesnt kill him and just RPs on a PVP server? If any one watches X's RP on GTA, he makes very questionable decisions that are borderline RDM himself, pretty biased for X viewers to come attack Ser Winter on his stream for simply protecting himselg.
Then the situation with LuluLovely, Winter was pretty worked up from being bullied in chat and every thing, and sort of made a judgment error by "RPing as a caveman". He says in the video it was the one kill he actually felt bad about and later he made up with Lulu and apologized.
For the rest of the video he avoided any one that he KOS'd in the beginning, when he didn't understand the rules (because he wasnt invited to the discord), just to avoid any drama. Sometimes Ser Winter would die from kill-on-sighters because he was trying to decide whether or not he should shoot, yet he was the one who got banned and blamed when he RP'd way more than most people in the North. In fact, I didn't plan on watching the entirety of Winter's video, just wanted to get his perspective, however, I got sucked in to his 2 hour long video and was sad when it ended, which goes to show how good his content was. When he went South and had all those wholesome moments whilst talking about his war-flogged time in the North and acted like he had PTSD, that was awesome. Not to mention all that fun he had in the North despite the dramatic BS. Then they ban and blame Ser Winter, when his content, both RP and PVP, was arguably some of the best on the server. I watched some of the bigger streamers gameplay and they actually killed on sight nearly the whole time, way more than Winter, whilst Winter did so very sparingly after understanding the rules, yet he gets banned? All this very clearly shows how biased the comminity is towards bigger streamers.
All this has wildly changed my perspective on a lot of the bigger streamers and the Twitch community as a whole. What a sad situation.
Yeah after i saw the clips in the beginning of ser's video i was saying that it was impossible for me to agree with ser bit immediately changed my mind when i saw trainwreck's tweet about winter's fiancee it made me super angry (i usually don't get angry over dumb arguments on the internet) but jesus he made personal faster than his dad leaving him
👏👏👏👏👏
Sir Winter was one of the biggest RPers in Rust, he just thought it was a PvP server
The kill on trainwrecks definitely wasn't mindless and any support he'd have had he just threw away being a shitass in the chat for so long
I came to the realisation that these content creators sell themselves out pretty easily, you can tell when they care more about the clout and money because they are streaming all day every day and streaming themselves doing just about anything even if its not playing video games.
On youtube they pump out videos daily and generate drama constantly to keep themselves talked about.
These people should be avoided, dont give them a view, dont discuss them, let them do their thing alone in the dark.
People like Ser Winter or Stimpee are content creators who do it for fun and a laugh and the profit on the side is a nice bonus for them, they do what they love and love it when others enjoy it too.
People like xQc are in it for fame and money, xQc has basically no real personality outside of angsty, angry dude playing vidya.
the toxicity in rust isnt surprising, the surprising part is that some people find it surprising.
So true
Rust makes MW2 lobbies look peaceful
@@eggy6745
To be fair,that isn’t exactly an achievement
@@eggy6745 trueee 😂
Just like ark, get stuff, make stuff, feel happy, get killed in your sleep, repeat until you get crippling depression
The OTV server is what I’d imagine rust was meant to be played like. A lot of PVP yet role play elements too, or atleast not killing everyone on sight.
Yup, that's why I won't play but really been enjoying watching the content.
I need to find a private server...
Rust actually was like that in the beginning but as it got more popular the rp aspact vanished on common servers
@@Jdicjsbciendufieb You still find this out there on public servers. You just have to search. There are a lot of toxic pvpers but it makes it even more fun because you and your allies have a common enemy. If everyone was nice it wouldn't be as fun. With the chads playing everything is high stakes
@@NoXtRiY Yep. Now people just gun everyone down on-sight and teabag the ever-living fuck outta them while screaming the N word and F slur. It isn't necessarily a bad thing because 30 year-old virgins still living with their parents enjoy that shit, but there's no reason to go off about it on a private server that was specifically made for Twitch streamers and RUclipsrs to create content on.
The game is a toxic cesspool now and I just have no reason to play. I'm not dogging on the people that enjoy it still, but I personally prefer to watch videos about it then going in there and experiencing it myself again.
Rust is the best/worst survival game
when xqc can read a room better than you there’s something wrong
Edit: I love the internet
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Ser Winter did absolutely nothing wrong. Period.
@sneax1xtm240for their own ego. Lol haha lmfao
@SneaX1X TM to keep the "bad" elements out of their personality cult
Xqc is always "crying" about stuff people do to him, but when he does the same stuff to others then it's all fun and games.
📠
@@CoolBugGaming what does that mean lol
@@ohnono945 it means “fax”
When you think his "crying" is to be taken seriously🤣
its a bit of both tbh
I mean the people that say "They aren't playing the real rust" are the ones that are teaming in 10+ clans with 3 man rotations and slave miners. They also probably play on 10x+ resource lol
I play vanilla or 2x with a group of 3 (over 1k hours) and I don't think the way they are playing is wrong. Roleplaying does happen in rust, just not on every server. I see nothing wrong with having fun in a game lmao
Ah that's sweet sweet rust
@@danielzurawski8662 yeah but you don't seem to be one of the "they're not playing real rust reeeeee" people either.
@@rebel4466 yep, that's true. Just showing that not all hardcore players of the game have those opinions on this stuff lol
I think some people may get rust looking for this experience, but then arrive to be disappointed at the witness of the 'real rust' .
You’re having fun.
That’s the issue they have with you.
They're just jealous because they've become desensitized to all the language used on rust and think it's normal
DanNozzer it is normal for a game like rust
Naw Charlie pooped so basically they can life
I think the problem is that rust has been infested and taken over by these dominance complex having lowlife wannabe-chad garbage child nobodies, who all they want is to be better than the next person. They laugh in the face of whoever doesnt have at least a semi or shotty after downing them and cry when at some point the other guy gets the upper hand.
Grade a dickheads is what I mean.
Personally, I sort of just disliked the fact that the more og Rust content creators such as (Some may have skins, forgive me if I say they do not) Welyn, Stevie, Blooprint, Frost, Hjune, Posty, Trausi, etc do not have skins featured but then comes in the OTV and other streamers such as Shroud and Jack to get skins when they begin streaming Rust. Now, I do not know if there are circumstances where they do not care or if they have to do something in particular to get a skin added, so it could make my comment invalid if there is. But, it seems like Swales is getting a skin, which is something that will hopefully get the others to get their skins. I understand that these are twitch drops, but to my understanding so is Swales’ skin. Which then begs the question: Why the new Rust streamers first and the OG ones second? Finally, I would like to say it is great for Rust to have all this publicity, hopefully would have more filled servers, but it would have been nice for the game to blow up due to its own self rather than due to a massive blowup. Although I don’t really care for the OTV Server streams, wtf is wrong with people just having a good time?
Ive never seen charlie be so wrong
ARK: Survival evolved has the same toxic community. They think if you're not being offline raided everyday you're a filthy casual
Not sure but I think it's the same with Conan Exiles
Seems every survival game is that way I think
They harassed Coco and...Kanata? For practising and learning the game on a private server and the rustees bombarded
The only fucking reason i started playin PvE... I hate ark's community
Shit i hate the ark community fr, but pvp is sick
I played ARK for a few years and I love it, but I bought rust the other day in sale and everyone on non-official servers are so nice, giving new players stuff they don't need, letting other people in on raids AFTER blowing the doors and leaving some good stuff on your body if they kill you. The ark community is so much more toxic imo.
The Garbage industry is Charlie's true passion.
hes the trash man
Yeyeweeejieeiei
From the replies to that tweet you can tell most Rust players haven’t talked to a real person in years
What the fuck are you talking about? People playing rust the RIGHT way aren't real people?
Just kidding. Isolated nerds are weird.
@@kviaak7979 had me there
this is just like when Markiplier was haressed for not playing Undertale the right way
I'm a rust player, I'm not toxic or racist. at the start I did think about the server not being real, I thought about it and understood that its okay to make a privet server to have fun and role play BUT most of the big streamers community are little kids(12-) and they will pay the 40$ for the game, they will think they can role play like the streamers but they will be killed every 5 mins so I think every streamer should at least mention that its not the "real rust expiries". most of them doesnt have the money to buy a privet server. I have 600 hours on the game and I have a lot of fun playing it.
@pizza time stfu I’m in ur loot room at 5am #NotMyFaultUrDogShit your mad I have ur boom and ak’s but I took them for a good reason because you can’t even spray them. Your such a wired little freak stop talking about my game Bc u don’t understand it
“Sitting in a bush for half an hour” come on Charlie it was 6 seconds smh 🤦♂️
I think it’s crazy how all these streamers and youtubers who previously never would have collabed with each other are all playing on the same rust server
Shroud, Ryan Higa, TPain, Offline TV, just to name a few, this server is unreal and fun.
Actually some have collab'd on Among Us. There was some strange lobbies in the first few weeks. Now they're sort of sorted.
@@SessionSakic Fr crazy I love to see it tho great content
Why would it be crazy? It's viewership and big money, you'd have to be dumb not to get in on it
Haven’t seen that pic in a fat minute
I’ve owned rust for 4 years, and the community has definitely changed a lot over the years. It used to be less toxicity and more just trash talking each other on how bad you were, and now it’s gotten pretty bad like you said. If people want to make their own private server, go for it, I don’t blame you. Rust has some losers who played the game 18 hours a day and make it unfun because they stay up all night getting better stuff and raiding you while you’re at work or school. Glad to see all the new players, though. To anyone just picking up the game, good luck and I hope you have fun
Ark is same way fr
@@Jake-gb9nj yeah except way laggier unfortunately
Can you make private servers on Rust? I don't own the game but watching all of the different livestreams on it made me want to try out the game. But then I heard how toxic the public servers are so I've been on the fence. I don't put up with that level of toxicity in my real life, I don't need it in my videogames. But yeah if a person can start their own private server I'd be more tempted to get it.
@@twiggy1253 yeah ark is borderline unplayable which is a shame because its actually really fun to play but the lag is abhorrent
@@liam-ko5ol It runs fine for me. It just comes down to your PC.
Fun fact: the people who didn't like the way they were playing then they could have stopped watching
No. No. That makes way too much sense. Why would they do something that makes sense?
Woah woah are you suggesting that people should grow up and accept that things they don’t like exist and that’s ok
@@chasezacher1075 I know its a stretch but mayyyybbeee it coullld work
Fun fact is irrelevant if you can't relate
This whole thread sounds reddit af
I always come back to this video to remind myself that Charlie is not completely unbiased in his opinions...
8 year old boy with 2000 hours on rust here
@@BRENNONZAHROmaybe you should actually research was he is talking about before you side with cr1tikal. I like cr1tikal but on this vid he never actually saw what happened because a guy in a pvp zone stood in a bush for less than ten seconds to kill a guy
@@b1nguz i commented this 4 months ago bruh also i stand by my opinion i know everything about the incident and i initially had the same reaction as critikal before seeing his video. He stood there 10 seconds which is still bush camping and he wouldve probably stayed longer if he wasnt lucky.
@@BRENNONZAHRO no way he would have, he was running to gunfire and just happened to find that bitch trainwreck
@@BRENNONZAHRO What Ser Winter did is no different than if he is on a cliff, sees someone running towards him, moves back out of view until the enemy gets closer, and then peeks over the cliff to mow them down. The target was acquired BEFORE using the cliff, or bush, or tree, or whatever.
Bush camping generally means that some rat sits in a bush for a long time hoping someone randomly runs by. That is not the same as SEEING the target BEFOREHAND and using the environment to your advantage to kill them. Killing people from a bush doesn't automatically make you a bush camper, the same way that shooting raiders from your roof doesn't make you a roof camper.
Shout out to Welyn for being self aware and operating at 1% of his actual rust skill so that other people could make good content as well.
Still killed xqc quite a bit
@@karsakasdasfa6474 he was being a prick and kept ruining everything though
@@karsakasdasfa6474 he was justified because he didn’t have to hold back on destroying everyone
If he wants to sweat he can sweat different people play differently right
Welyn is such a wholesome gamer
Rust, ark, and space engineers each have their own level of politics
Space Engineers? Why that game?
@@hoonk1896 cobalt
@@hoonk1896 idk man, their are good RP I watched from captain jack and some other guys he co ops with, hell even pvp is part of the rp, sometimes on the other side of the coin a lot of people just want to destroy shit and ruin the community
I don't know anything about ark tho, yeah I see the trolling is funny but the owners who are trolling (theyoutubers) just gives them back resources they destroyed, maybe the p2w or p2 play owners (the cunts I like to call) are just in it for the greed
Ark is cancer
Even Minecraft
This happens with a lot of shit that has a smaller but dedicated fan base. It's like when an artist has their first commercial hit and all of the "true fans" are like "wow bro you fell off you were so much better when you had to eat carboard to survive".
Lolll real talk, that's exactly how they be
cardboard*
ruclips.net/video/2V4MoU0KZRs/видео.html
idk why it's funny but it honestly IS lmao
Yo we got the same pfp
@@superknightlol if you were a true fan of box related paraphernalia you would know it was originally spelled "carboard". fake fans smh
I genuinely am annoyed this video is up without ever apologizing to Ser Winter for being the main antagonist you framed up here. You clearly made it sound worse then a simple mild bad thing he done, that wasn't the main issue. That's why you pay attention to the truth by listening to both sides of a story and piecing the proper facts from there.
“How dare you have fun in the same game I play? I am shocked and frankly offended and now you’ve ruined my game.”
Your version of fun is different from version my servers reddit is gonna kick your ass
you're the guy using the pokimane garage door and getting mad when me and the boys foundation wipe it
@@dankdachshund the boys 🥶🥶🥶
@@dankdachshund stfu
Grass is green and the sky is blue. Don’t play rust if you don’t want to get absolutely fucked by the veteran community.
Love how some people talking about the Sir winter ban were like “He CoUlD’vE hElPeD hIs CaReEr” but if you ever watched the dudes stream, he seemed to just be happy that he gets to play the game he loves with other streamers rather than being some clout chaser like everyone says he was
Watch Ser Winters side of this please. These guys are all fucking liars.
ong
ruclips.net/video/5I6x89hYPWY/видео.html
Charlie should of done a little bit of research on this topic.
that video he now uploaded really puts him in a better light then peoples perception of how he played
"Lunchtable outcasts"
Damn, Charlie's insults may not always be so wide as a church door, but they sure can strike deep
Their as thick as a castle gateway door.
It may not be as wide as a church door, or as deep as a well, but it'll do the job.
@@420roachdoggjr A cultured individual I see
pain
spain without the s
I’ve never seen Charlie be so wrong about something in his entire RUclips career. Xqc is literally the most toxic streamer on the platform. Crazy that anyone could defend his actions during that time
sucks that he also refuses to aplogize and joined in on the slander
L charlie fr
yeah, being friends and shit RUST is blasphemy.
Wait Rust having a toxic community?
*Who would've fucking guessed huh*
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes.
@@thebigbonednotfathuevo7438 so true
The sky is blue
@@thebigbonednotfathuevo7438 I didn’t know that!!😨🤭😱😨😱🤭😨😱🤭😨🤭😱
@@Datapitstopyaps yes the floor here is made of floor
"Lunchtable outcasts" is one of the most solid burns Charlie has ever landed. So fucking true. And so fucking accurate for Rust players.
I hate to be this guy, but rust was never meant to be a role playing game. Short wipes are specifically because the goal is to kill people, become king, and start fresh. They don’t have wipeless servers for a reason. If you want to role play there’s games built for that.
I'm so gonna use that insult when I get the chance
@@TipsyFGC Just because it wasn’t meant for RP, doesn’t mean they can’t RP. It’s their server and they can play how they want. If somebody wants to come in and not follow the rules, they deserve the ban.
@@TipsyFGC this doesnt make sense. The game will be played however you want to. It's a game. Let people have their fun ffs
@@TipsyFGC But that's dumb as shit. So what if there are "better" games to roleplay in. If people are having fun doing it in the wrong game it really doesn't matter.
"But I won't be having fun if everyone is miserable and not having fun including me"- REAL Rust Player
"Buhu, im an entitled streamer who wants everything my way otherwise I'm going to cry and bitch about it to my chat on twitch" - REAL content creators
@@johanogie2981 bruh the rust streamers are the ones who did this, as they refused to play the game the way the rules were laid out to be. Nice one.
@@devilselbow sound like a whiney baby rn arguing in the comments
@@imranalvi5189 why do you care, just because someone has a audience doesn’t mean that they(audience) get to control them and if you think thats how a content creator should have to live then your following people for reasons you shouldn’t.!
@@aidendunlap9353 bro who said that cause Ik damn well I didn’t. Don’t put words in my mouth . All i said was you a bunch of babies for arguing. You just like the fool above keep whining.
One thing I noticed with streamers is that when they do get killed no matter the situation, they throw a dramatic hissy fit. Literally just watched one of them get killed by a scientist and quit the game.
Ooo do you remember who it was? That sounds like a fun watch
@@jooot_6850 ikr
Train wreck was ABSURDLY toxic to ser winter when he wasn’t even camping and this slander campaign is suggesting that he was mindlessly killing. I’ve never heard of ser winter before this but when I saw his side it was quite clear trainwrecks was in the wrong.
100%.
Train is, was, and always will be a piece of shit.
I've been watching Winter for a while. He's a good bloke and he's a good storyteller. Most Rust youtubers are.
@@EjvindGEMDark Ive watched ser winter for 4 years and as he explained in his video about the situation he normally doesn't kill on site but when he sees a gun in someones hand he would shoot and he heard mp5 shots and I can confirm train wreck would have shot him on site and then treated him like crap when ser said said he'd revive him but he was being toxic and salty and then made up he bush camped
@@darkphoenix8433 Yeah I know mate. Winter's clearly in the right here, and Train as usual is an absolute dickhead.
Kinda disappointed this wasn’t about lilypichu the starving artist vs the kitten clan.
Lily is a racist and prejudiced against the kittens
yeah lily is catist
@@kidfromneptune that makes me like her more if she’s a racist 🥺
@@applenewmoon4402 - edgy 15 year old
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idk why it's funny but it honestly IS lmao
“They’re like pain from naruto” couldn’t have said it better myself
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pain was right doe
Let’s see how many subs I can gain from this comment
(I’m at 44 right now)
@@shrupsr6 he always was
@@nurutokun2532 none
It's a weird vibe coming back to this a year later, and remembering Charlie was in with the wrong take on something.
yeah never thought id see charlie having a tantrum over a video game
It's weird? Charlie has been wrong at least 40% of the time with takes. He's insecure and defends his RUclips buddies. Then tries to call others insecure for just defending themselves. He's a below average IQ RUclipsr with little knowledge on almost anything who got fame for talking about random stuff and memes. It isn't surprising at all. It isn't like he's some Harvard Professor.
This situation is just like when a band becomes popular and their old fans suddenly get bitter that they aren't the only ones enjoying the band's music anymore.
Weeeeeeeeell, many bands I've followed have turned to the mainstream. Changing their sound, getting a new audience while not caring about their old ones -- just in it for the fame. Rust KINDA does it the same way, but it's fun because it's 90% PVP'ers and Facepunch haven't added a gun in AGES all while adding RP shit, and the PVP'ers go like crying wojak and still play it
in other word, elitist.
Charlie just sucks and keeps getting owned. he is just salty and is attacking the game to make up for his inadequacies. Its what all new players do when they meet a challenge they were not expecting. the difference is, most little kids throwing a tantrum dont have a million subs licking his b hole telling him he is right, and not a childish whiner at all.
@@terryfuldsgaming7995 so you think toxicity and racism should be considered the norm and allow it to be ‘the real way to play rust’? Did you even listen to the video? Or is your brain just so rotted that all you can think is ‘haha boy fire gun boy angery. Oh haha that white person just called someone a dirty n*****.’
i think thats people being upset that the bands style changed since the early days more than anything else. like alot of Thrash bands changed their sound in the 90s, because of pressure from their labels or just because they felt like it. but then again some people seem to think popular = bad so idk.
Just watched Ser Winter’s video about the situation. Really feel like he didn’t do anything wrong. Just large youtubers hating on a smaller RUclipsr. Sad state of affairs
Winter through out the whole time on server sounded depressed cuz he was more focused on not pissing people off rather than having fun
What larger youtubers? Train's YT channel is like 3 times smaller than SW. What a dumb excuse.
He probably meant Twitch streamers
@@0re0n he meant content creator
@@0re0n He isn’t part of the community of OTV as much as the others and his 500k subscribers is tiny compared to the millions of other followers that are truly friends with train penquin etc
Rust fans: "this world shall know pain"
Can confirm
Ooo a naruto reference
The otv server has too much order imo. It’s very different gameplay when every random isn’t out to murder/cheat/steal from you
@@roguewasbanned4746 rust is about using everything in your abitlity to fuck others over an make it to the top thats the whole point of rust
@@roguewasbanned4746 No it just means you never played with friends and only join pubs
It's been a year since then but man does this video still ages like milk
Another year on and I still watch that stimpee video, he was banned by the brother of the guy he killed who was an admin
It was just admin abuse, fullstop.
the ser winter clip if cut properly looks like he was sat in a bush but he literally walked through it, biggest of R.I.P's. he ended up getting death threats and his partner was dragged through the mud on twitter
He was in the bush for like 4 seconds. This clown also said 30 minutes without fact checking.
I saw it live while xqc was playing. He literally saw the guy running down the road while also running, ducked through some trees and came out shooting all in like a 10 sec moment. Then sidestepped while looting and they started saying he was teabagging...
wait who was the guy that did it? or not?
@@Cornholio8787 Ser Winter killed trainwreck, and then train cried about Bush camping and teabagging.
Y’all lucky you guys have friends to play with in a non toxic community
basically the reason why I've never played Rust though I've owned it for 5+ years
I haven't even watched more than ten minutes of otv's server but I can tell you now if they're not enjoying it for whatever reason I want to see them try playing on a public server
@@Hallows_ send em to SAVAS
You guys can be friends now
@@FollowTheRabbitHole Savas is gone
I'm on Sir Winter side on this one. His video made it clear on who's lying.
Penguin didnt even mention winterbitch and all y'all can do is act like little fanboys protecting him 🤣🤣🤣
@@thisone98 did you see his side?
@Rambunctious Koala Not up to date on this but why do people use the "Its a Toxic community so its okay" argument?
Custard
@Rambunctious Koala You didn't really clarify anything about the drama, or why just because something is toxic people use it as an excuse to justify the actions of another. Don't get me wrong your explanation about the game's community was great but it answers nothing about what I was specifically asking.
The time Jesus was wrong.
Very sad indeed
I really don't get it. The way THEY play the game is completely unaffected.
They're literally offended by other people having fun.
I guarantee you most of them are just trolling, but then there's always a couple special people who don't get it and take it too far, and once you get a bit of drama shits fucked anyways lol
They can play rust the way they want to on 99% of the servers, but the one server that has rules against their play style they want to be on the most.
@@Feshman117 exactly
@@Failzz8 Most of them are actually not trolling. Most people are salty because ''their'' game is played by noobs that are popular, and not in a way that is normal for rust. Some people just aren't intelligent enough to see things other way.
The """hardcore""" Rust community is just about taking the fun out of the game
Charlie speaks so well that even the auto-generated captions can pick up every word he says.
woah ur not wrong
Years of talking to yourself usually pays off
Central florida accent, very standard
Holy shit
Not to say I’m not impressed, but after all the video doesn’t have any background audio to interfere
I come back to this video every now and then to remind me that even Charlie can be objectively wrong
ser winter probably would have followed the rules if he was invited to the discord so he could read the rules...
He did follow the rules on the pvp server people just didnt like that he was better than them (xqc)
@@lewisallen582 did you just say xqc is better than ser winter?
@@Enfinitie read his comment one more time, this time aloud
@@the-ru1is good call, thank you
To be honest when ser winter got banned it wasn’t for a valid reason just bc of a salty streamer who can’t talk losses
Don't care about the drama here to see more ToastKen and Charlie succeed in their waste management
Eventually it will become a mafia, as all waste management should be.
I haven’t seen much since they discovered the Waste Management Balloon, but they are dedicated to their craft
then people are gonna get mad because "thats not how you play rust" lmao
I remember CinnamonToastKen from Polaris Select, a show on DisneyXD, and this also had Jacksepticeye, Markiplier, ParkerPlays, and some other smaller youtubers than those. Its a nostalgic show for me too
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Trainwrecks was being such a baby
Moreover, almost everything he said was a lie. Somehow he got door amped when nowhere in the VOD could you see his base, he was planting berries while running down a fully paved road, and he was bush camped even though Ser Winter was in the bush for less than 5 seconds. Let's not even get started on xqc, the person who wants to kos everyone, but if someone kills him once he bitches all day and calls you a stream sniper. He did it in the first otv server and he continued to do it no matter what server he was in. There is a reason his fanbase is so toxic.
To be fair train gets mad a lot and he isnt used to rust where you spend a bunch of time getting gear just to die out of nowhere
@@greiratOS so not just a baby, a huge baby.
@@UnknownGamer40464 Yeah I guess so
@@greiratOS “to be fair” nono there is nothing fair about the bullshit train did. Lying about how u died and villianising some guy that killed you ONCE is more than just “shit talk”, as train put it later. The dude has serious issues, and the fact he has issues before rust should not be an excuse for shitty behaviour. The same with XQC, like the main defense i see for the bs he pulls is that “lolol he’s always like that u should know lol” - maybe that’s a problem?? Maybe acting like a mnachild and dragging peeps through the mud over a viddy game is something that shouldn’t be praised or normalised.
Train even went to twitter to shit on Winter and his fiance, he later claims it was a joke but reading the tweet you can tell it’s obviously not lmao. He then proceeds to scream it was a joke on twitch and calls Winter fans fucking dumb for thinking otherwise. Nice joke train, jesus that guy’s such a toxic asshole 👀
"you really are one of those rust players aren't you?" is the only good thing that the rust server produced
Don't r/woosh me but this is some next level sarcasm right here
@@ocelot9680 nah that quote is the only good thing to come from the server
im glad OTV moved to minecraft because there aren't grown ass manchildren managing to get a streamer and his fiancee harassed and sent death threats because he got killed in a videogame on minecraft
@@rooknizan2923 also enardo's and stimpee's videos where top tier
Blasphemy. Spoonkids pinto video is the single best thing on RUclips and it came from that server
@@AcidAdventurer funny how that whole situation didn't get mentioned here. Spoon did full RP and then others just killed his horse and destroyed his RP for no reason. Then they banned spoon for retaliating.
Ser winter deserves an apology and is actually a very chill streamer. I just finished watching his perspective on things. Train deserves to Apologize to him for talking so much shit about his wife and spreading so much false information on the guy.
fiance* idk if its spelled right but they aren't married yet
Hey is there like a link I want to look
@@EJionix Check the youtube channel Ser Winter. Their newest video covers his perspective of what happened and his interactions with all those toxic streamers.
Why are all these Winter fanboys commenting on this video as of Charlie ever brought him up on this video.
Even responded on Twitch that he had no idea that Ser Winter was even involved in any drama.
@@the03k the rumors he talks about at the end are about Sir Winter and his ban. That was the "Rust Drama" that happened. Just because he didn't name drop doesn't mean he isn't explicitly talking about Sir Winter. He was the only "sweaty tryhard" "camping bushes for 30 minutes" that got banned, so it's not a question who he was talking about.
He heard his teammates and fellow big streamers cry about getting owned, and he believed the lies he was told.
Train was completely in the wrong. He was kitted with a gun, got owned, was toxic about it, then threw a hissy fit.
I'm not a hardcore Rust player, but Ser Winter did nothing wrong and Train was completely out of line.
What about zuckles
Jeah Trainwreck was toxic and jeah ser winter wasnt a dick in that situation BUT i saw all the footage and i play since legacy...alone his attitude about streamer and how he play shows that he did not fit with that kind of server...sure he not the sweaty monster what the streamers projekt him but he isnt innocent either...he know what he was doing and he killed some player rly public rust like...so chill... charlie is right in this video.... he never mention sir winter just rust pros in general and he had/hav a faire point so gf hf bb
@@Razyl6Idk what you just said but cool
@@Razyl6 you need to work on your Grammer and punctuation man. Can't make out what you're saying.
@@Razyl6 you havent actually seen shit. go watch his video.
Imagine Charlie as a parent just roasting you with a straight face for failing a class
Literally worse than having a privilege get taken away
Nah he'd be the good parent that gives you advice
@@verdurite 2+2=4 🙂👍
Honestly at that point I'd rather have my ass beat.
😂
Fun fact, Ser Winter never bush camp, he went into a bush to hide from a person with a gun and was shooting, killed the person with the gun, and was planning to pick him up, but Train (The person killed) was being rude to him and in response Winter killed him. Train then went onto chat to harrass Winter for "Bush camping and tbagging him" which if you watched Winter's vods he didn't do any of those. He even offered to show Train his side of the story which train refused to see it. And 9/10 I bet Train would've killed Winter of given the chance.
And before the train drama
Ser Winter also didn't mindless kill Garrett who people were saying he was a naked. Truth is Garrett was in a Hazmat and hiding by a street, Winter who wasn't expecting him shot Garrett and the two exchanged a few shots but Garrett was killed, Garrett then went to chat and harassed Winter.
Winter frustrated killed a random naked which in his video address the drama said it was stupid and he regretted it. In fact the player killed in that situation met Winter again and Winter apologized for it and she accepted the apology and it was over.
I recommend Winter's 2 hour long video in the matter which shows his vods and his explanation and how much of a dick everyone was to him.
Also Train harassed Winter for having a prominent youtube channel and was using it as an insult. Honestly, train was being an absolute dick and actively ignored Winter's attempts to show train his side of the story.
what in the god damn fuck is this? god damn bruh are we still talking about rust or real life? 2 hour video...
Rust is seriously addictive
I just got a new pc, can you convince me to buy it?
yo @Willum love your rust content
are you a fan of charlie or do you just come here when he talks about rust?
@@daroachdawgjr you should buy it because it’s a great game (it can be toxic sometimes) nonetheless, it’s fun and you can get addicted very easily
@@daroachdawgjr A game with very low lows is going to naturally have higher highs. You just have to be able to deal with the super low lows. Someone shows up with an insult that hits you right where it hurts without them knowing a single thing about you as they shoot you and steal ur stuff that you spend hours collecting, you bounce back take revenge and level their entire base as they squeal and call you all kinds of racist slurs with a tone that sounds as if they're about to cry and you just bathe in their salt.
The people saying that he was playing the game wrong were just salty they didn't have enough friends to make a private server with.
@@dariusmain3531 damn you felt real attacked by that comment didnt you?
@@dariusmain3531 oof... damn bro.
@@dariusmain3531 if your offended then she is talking specifically to you
@@dariusmain3531 the irony is in the name. You can do it friend. Stay strong
@@dariusmain3531 all darius mains really do be like that.
I wouldn't even call this drama. Just a bunch of people whining.
I don't know man they were pretty dramatic
Ssshhhh dont tell it to redditor, everything is a drama there
Its just twitter.... with extra steps
Isn’t that the same thing?
Isn't that what all youtube drama is?
“Your one of those rust players aren’t ya”
-Ego centric streamer
-streamer that thinks they, out of all the other streamers on the server, are the main character
Isn't it how every online game turns out? A bunch of no life sucking energy out of people's anger?
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GTAO Grinders attempt to suck the fun out of the game
Well this game is super toxic. Its encouraged to kill and just loot people. Would you rather grind for hours for material? Or just kill someone and steal their stuff?
@@KattalystFr Not Gta grinders, those guys just mind there own business getting money and occasionally kill players if they got themselves a new toy, it's the God dam KD hunters and try hards who ruin the game for others just because they have nothing better in their life to do.
@@alexander3240 You talking about the dent heads that point homing launchers in the sky all day to shoot down anybody's fun?
The people who get mad about you guys not playing rust "correctly" never played it when it came out, when it came out it was so fun and you really only killed for fun now people play it more as a shooter and not a survival fun game, Faceless made a whole video about it
I love faceless especially his Conan series that was abruptly ended
@blaer5 I know it's been toxic sense the beginning but is was the fun bannter type of toxic now it's just nazis and door spammers lol
@@Red_Bubble yeah that series was amazing
Link?
It’s funnier this way tbh
My day be so bad 'til Charlie mentions he roleplayed as an waste management service worker
It do be like that sometime
He's the only one who stays true to himself no matter what
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idk why it's funny but it honestly IS lmao
My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, ‘If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.’. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he died of lung cancer. It was really sad and destroyed me. My mother said to me- ‘Don’t ever smoke. Please don’t put your family through what your Grandfather put us through.” I agreed. At 28, I have never touched a cigarette. I must say, I feel a very slight sense of regret for never having done it, because your video gave me cancer anyway.
Ser Winter literally was pvping in areas prominently meant for pvp and actively avoid places were it was solely rp. They’re being so hypocritical about “oh I can only enjoy it this way” when some people were playing the way they wanted to
I watch his video on it and it is really sad how big streamers treat smaller streamers way more toxic than other bigger streamers and that they can only be right. Train didn't even care to see what actually happened and ofc he was believed because he is a big streamer and no one cared to validate his "claims" ( lies ). and how they kept whining was really obnoxious.
@@hypelogicc8550 yeah made me lose some respect, critical drops a big video like this and it just overshadows anything they had to say about it
@@hypelogicc8550 i agree
@@RoNetCorp also the fact the excuse he used. lost a ton of respect for critical
Rules of the Server: No Mindless killing. Plain and simple, you can't read you get banned.
Tldr: A group of RUclipsrs started a rust server and weren’t racist to each other so people that hate fun got mad
Thank you but I prefer Charlie's words
Rust is literally the most toxic game ever and that's why people like it so much
@@spoopskii4235 *COD MW wants to know your location*
@@spoopskii4235 doesn’t mean people havw to be toxic to play it lmao
only og rust players remember this ruclips.net/video/reWHqfir_xw/видео.html
when rust players get mad because you aren't saying racist things in voice chat
@useless moron yeah they are wrong you shouldnt get mad at a streamer for not being racist lmao
I like to play rust but even I’m not that harsh, I even try to help up players that I’ve downed in a fight or say gg in the chat. Some people on that game are real assholes though
@@Mooker_43 dude I've been doing that since very recently. I offered to make this dude a house and protection and in the middle he eokaed me and tried to run off with my stuff so I'm done being cool with people now
@@Mooker_43 exactly
@@bigsneak4458 yeah it sucks how some people are and how some are just not trustworthy
Tell me you watched one side of the story without telling me you only watched one side of the story.
No mindless killing, yet XQC mindlessly killed Winter several times and 3rd partied himself several times. As for the girl Ser apologized to her later and explained why he did it and she accepted the apology. Blood (or whatever his name was) had a kill counter twice the size of Winter and when Winter died he GGd multiple times. Picked people up when he downed them and realized they were the ones trying to kill him, he even did prank calls, gave out more than a few rad suits, hunted down a toxic player who stole someone's loot and left the team, yet no one even talked to Winter before banning him. Abe should have atleast viewed the clips and saw what happened before banning him, team rocket broke the rules so many times and were ignored, they raided a solo player for something another team did.
could have just said he might have looked at the wrong sources, but you had to say it in this stupid fucking format that makes me want to jump off a bridge.
@@monke980 I hear bridges are nice this time of year.
You've got it all wrong man. I've never watched "Ser Winter" (the guy who got banned) or heard of him before, but I just watched his POV of his entire stream and it's insane how wrongly he was painted when he literally only killed in the PVP zone and even there he was pretty tame, and he still RP'd a lot too. It was the louder voices of some of the bigger streamers that painted him as a sweaty bushcamper, when he never even bushcamped (he was running down the road after hearing shots and saw someone in the PVP zone before they saw him so he stepped into the bush for 3 seconds - you can count - to get a better vantage point). Watch the VOD on his youtube channel, he was legit so tame relative to people like xQC who kill on sight 24/7. It's so frustrating to see.
Yeah xqc won't get banned for starting it lol
Been watching winter for 3+ years. I stopped a while back because i didn't like his more rp style content lmao. If someone is geared up the way train was in that clip, especially after gun shots, they're going to get into a fight and its totally warranted. Glad to see people doing there research.
same with blood. he had no say in if he gets banned or not it was just xqc saying he was streamsniping and he was raging and he was banned. he didnt even knew he was banned. which is just not fair.
@@kennyl2009 Who? CNDBlood?
@@sulam0166 blood45dragon
Welyn has joined
*Warning, the Slayer has entered the facility.*
True but he's actually very chill rping. Never been a toxic gamer which is cool.
@@maxhayer5241 He subscribes to the Nuxanor way of life "be toxic to toxic people and wholesome to wholesome people".
Welyn definitely IS what you'd describe as toxic... to people that were extremely toxic to him first.
I love the pumpkin king
@@AtomicArtumas facts
"I recreated their private server on my private server."
I like how whenever its "you aren't getting the true blank experience" its always the most awful and toxic way to enjoy the thing
to be fair, rust is kinda about the "true experience" basing with friends and talking with complete strangers is what gives the game replaybility in a month the private server isn't gonna be fun because its gonna just be the same things over again
Yeah, everyone had their own way to enjoy something. Saying "thats not the true experience" is like saying, thats not how you walk. Rust is a survival game, but that doesnt mean you only try to survive and KOS, its still a game, most game is made so that other can enjoy them. You can RP, you can make trap or experiment with stuff, you can do whatever you want.
Cya.
charlie new unlisted video ruclips.net/video/reWHqfir_xw/видео.html
It's like saying that "since I don't have friends to play private games, I think that it's wrong" like if it's wrong why would the devs allow a private room
you don´t have to be toxic (racist/homophobic) nor salt (like xqc) to enjoy rust on a official server. other maybe will be and that´s up to you decide how to react. many professional rust players ARE roleplayers and DO their role playing DESPITE the haters on the server. how? getting good at the game mechanics so no arsehole maniac can prevent them of doing it
So heres the issue. The person in question was given conflicting rules prior to entering the game. He wasn't invited to the discord It was literally one kill where one person hid in a bush for 4 seconds. Then after learning the true nature of the server he started playing by the rules. You made him sound like some sort of cod player but it really was a limited bad behavior.
Why aren't we talking about the big steamers that were mindlessly killing more often than Winter and weren't banned?
names?
@@sazoku xq kid
Even blooprint was killing alot wit xqc
Because Abe originally said he was cool with xQc, and he's a big streamer. Hurts but it's the truth.
@@denisjon6873 pomegalul so why invite other non cool big streamers? KEKW toobased bruh