Wilt was asked once hey you averaged 50 points a game for an entire season back in the day but you would never do that in today's NBA would you? So what would you average in today's NBA? He said well I would guess around 30 or so. But you gotta understand , I'm 50 years old.
Because there is zero chance he does that in modern basketball. Shit, most of the superstars sit out in the 4th when they have blown a team out. He's some mythological god to people. Just like Bruce Lee being some amazing fighter. A way different game and comparing the 2 era's is ridiculous. Anyone thinks he's keeping one of those records today or even 2 decades ago's game you are crazy.
@@itsyourenotyour9101 Because players today always are tired and don't enjoy basketball, but money. You know, 15 players from 60s averaged more minutes per game than both LeBron and MJ.
@Brawl Boi Well, LeBron probably. About MJ, I'm not sure if he'd like to play again with Bulls unless they offered him 30 mln$ a season (adjusted for inflation 47 mln$), you know he refused for a month before accepting.
@Brawl Boi you know, The Last Dance was done to praise and eulogise MJ and his legacy. I don't disrespect him, as I don't disrespect any player, but I just think work hard means other thing (also if we talk about basketball). In 60s rules were so strict that probably nobody of the last 30~40 years, if he could, would play good there, for (at least) five things: 1. Dunks: if you dunk 360/ under the legs/ from the free throw line etc., you'd be ejected (it was considered a techinical foul). 2. Salary: In 1959, the player who earned the most, had less than 30'000/year. Wilt, in his prime had 100'000/year, but just because he was Wilt. 3. Outfit: You mustn't wear sneakers, because they didn't exist, but other annoying shoes. 3. Three points: If you shoot from 60 ft (West did once in NBA Finals 1970) or if you do a lay up, your shoot give you always just 2 points. 4. Sometimes, if you didn't remember your stats and you weren't famous, if you wanted NBA formalized, you must report to the statitian after every action. 5. Just 2% of games were televised: if you played bad, you couldn't try to improve watching your highlights.
I dont think you can somehow lower his stats because he was playing too many minutes. It is actually what might be the most impressive, that you have a center playing in an era when the pace was much higherand he was able to play every single minutes of every game while being extremely efficient.
+RubberDucky Russ They have no choice to adjust, because many people aren't bright enough to fully understand the basics of the game like possessions and pace.
+RubberDucky Russ what's wrong with "adjusting"? When you compare statistics you should always aspire to normalize them if you want the comparison to have any logical value, that's all "adjusting" is.
@@locdogg86 "Actual physicality" . Wilt used to get punched and kicked in almost every match without the refs interfering. Nowadays the "real" physicality of the 60s has been replaced by flops
300lbs Shaquille O’Neal doesn’t need to punch and kick to back you in. Players have much more muscle today and that muscle gets used because everybody jumps and sprints to the max for every second they are on the floor today. Wilt used to stroll down court and wait for the post pass and then finger roll it in. Wilt never had a 300 pound defender guarding him.
@@firstlast9916so Shaq was more muscular than Wilt? Even 7x Mr Olympia, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Said that Wilt was one of the strongest guys he ever saw and you think Shaq is stronger. In 1972, 35 year old Wilt was praised for Outsprinting A Prime Kareem and winning many late possessions. Plus Shaq was mostly fat when he was 300 lbs. Wilt was defended by many great Centers like 7'3 Swede halbrook who jumped 6'2 and was a track and field athlete, Bill Russell 6'9 high jumping champion, Competitive track and field athlete etc. Shaq was dominant because of all the fouls that he did. Plus Wilt also faced Centers who were more dominant than Shaq. Robert Parrish, Who played against both Shaq and Artis Gilmore, Said that Gilmore was more dominant and stronger than Shaq, And Wilt used to Ragdoll Gilmore easily. So in terms of dominance, Wilt>Artis Gilmore> Shaq
DaMn sOn umm. Anybody can outsprint skinny ass slow Kareem. I don’t think kareem ever sprinted anywhere. Kareem had an unstoppable hook shot. He didn’t need to sprint ever. And he didn’t. Shaq would score 100 points per game in the 1960s and you know it. Basketball was like 15 years old in the 60s and 80% slow skinny white people. Give me a break.
This was the most unscientific way of discrediting a player. All you did was reduce his MPG which is completely unfair because Wilt actually played those minutes. He didn't have some unfair advantage. You even pointed out that the pace of play was faster and so there were more possessions. That reality makes what Wilt did even more amazing. you can't just reduce a players MPG to prove an argument. You actually have to make a credible argument. THey had the same 48 min game, and the same 24 second shot clock. It's not Wilt's fault that today's players/coaches have fewer possessions.
and think about it, today's game has three points so players could score more points easily. no way any nba player could score 70 points without 3 points today.
I have been a basketball fan my entire life, but I genuinely believe the NBA has some of the dumbest fans in all of sports with a vast wave of people constantly making comments totally lacking in knowledge. It gets worse as time goes on. Look at those Steph Curry stats he crafted up lmao. Did he even take into consideration that every move Steph makes with the ball would be considered a travel in the 1960s?! Steph would probably averaged less than 15ppg in the 1960s
Also nobody was on drugs in 1962...illegal drug use didn't become a problem until the 70s and performance enhancing drugs didnt become a problem until the 80s....the NBA of 1962 was untainted compared to what we have now.
For real, just wasted an hour trying to explain to a kid on here this nonsensical, not analytics. There is a fundamental problem with stat geeks who never played a sport. The don't understand SPORTS MAKE YOU TIRED. Just because you can put up certain numbers with 15 minutes and 7 shots a game, that does mean numbers will be 2X with 30 mins and 14 shots.
You failed to mention that they played a LOT more games on back-to-back nights in those days - making Wilt's minutes per game even more impressive. Almost all NBA games today have 2 to 5 days between games.
If you adjust Wilt's 48 minutes to 36 minutes you are taking a quarter's worth of stats away from him for nothing. The man did everything people like to say is "over-rated" on a horrible schedule, no good team doctor, a gym that isn't air conditioned, biased refs, hard hardwood, poor coaching, and a pair of Converse shoes. name one nba player who had a 40+ inch vertical and played 48.5 mpg in a season all in damn CHUCKS
On top of that pace was higher and defence was physical. Which drains stamina even more He would have spare stamina today...he would be god on both sides for 48+ mins
Sure but who was going to stop him? Russell was basically the only guy in the league who could guard Wilt. Despite the author of this video dismissing that, it matters. Shaq had to go up against guys like Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutombo, Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning. The NBA had nobody like that back then, except Wilt and Russell. Put 2000 Shaq (who averaged 30/14 back in 1962) and he'd put up a 50/26 as well. Kareem put up a 35/17 in 1972 and I think that's more impressive b/c there were a lot of other quality big men at that time. But in 1962, most big men were 6'6"-6'8", there weren't any foreign players, most teams had a black-player-limit b/c they wanted white fans in the South to keep watching, oh and some stuff was legal that would be offensive goaltending now - you could dunk balls that were in the cylinder, and re-direct teammates' shots into the basket while the shot was on the way down. Kareem would have gotten around 50/26 as well.
Will Rich, thank you. What these knuckle heads don't want to mention is that the year Wilt scored 50, the next highest was 30 ppg. that is 66% higher than the next leading scorer.
@@Statalyzer Wilt was stronger and much more athletic than Shaq. Not to mention he was longer and more skilled, also while being a better passer, rebounder and defender. Bill Russel, one of the best defenders of all time only did little to stop Wilt. He would easily drop 40+ on any of those guys.
I remember he said a different thing. It's perfectly fine to do it for fun, it's just stupid to do it to diminish the greatness of a champion (usually from a team we don't like). He's not saying Wilt was a fraud, but 50 points for game is such an incredible record that today nobody could even come close. This video explains why.
I don't mean to brag or anything but I scored 29pts in 15 today... Sure I was playing a team of 4 year olds...and Yeah the trash talking made them cry...But give me credit.
+Cen Len “Censari” Caf-flow wow your a moron. He's making a joke, you know, since wilt basically scored 50 a game on little kids. It was pretty damn simple, but I guess you couldn't figure it out...
I disagree with the "game being more physically demanding" now specifically in contrast to Wilt. Wilt was hard-fouled A LOT during his playing days and refs often overlooked/ignored many hard fouls against Wilt. He took a beating during those games.
@@d3va383 top 2 lmfao, michael, kareem, bill, magic, duncan, who's not better than lebRUN? He is a PIECE OF SHIT, all the rings are fake, never win a real ring, never be a real KING🤣
+Kobe Tobe Golden state actually had a good defense. Boguts a good defender, Draymonds a good defender, Iguodala is a good defender, Thompson is a good defender, which is why curry rarely guards his man.
And you said that nba is more physically demanding even tho wilt is the strongest player to ever play...... he bench pressed 500lbs!!! When he was 63 he benched 465 which is more than shaq did IN HIS PRIME.......@me when you find a player in today's game doing stuff like that please and thank you
How can people say Wilt's overrated when they didn't even watch a full game of Wilt playing basketball... I haven't, and i know better to respect such amazing player.
The first game I ever saw in ly life live was Chamberlain vs. Russell. I saw that matchup about 30 times. Both those guys would still ball and dominate today.
Wilt could do things Russell couldn't. Russell usually had the better team and the better coach. Both were incredible athletes who would be all-stars today.
@@jshonsmith3399 wilt was the godfather of nba basketball with george Mikan Neil Johnston, bob petit those guy had advantages wilt did not have basketball videos learn stuff,internet lots of learn basketball Larry bird, pistol pete, red Auerbach,etc etc
Jshon Smith LBJ Played in a cupcake era Kobe is better than LBJ okay Lebron cleveland lose on big 3 Celtics Kobe lakers won two times in a row without shaq, LBJ NEEDS TO BUILD A SUPER TEAM TO WIN A RING
Jshon Smith Not only that but u also disrespect Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Dr J, Bill Russell etc etc...Wilt only won two rings bc Of celtics i mean 7 HoF!! And Wilt won one chips against them
But when Wilt does that against players like Russel... It is all about the pace of the game and how it was easier... But when he does it against lesser competition... It is all about the players..
@@LegitPlays777 the pant area was smaller, but wilt was super man strong, great fadeaway shot touch like to bank his shots, unstoppable low moves around the basket but very old wilt with knee surgery more than held his own against young jabber
@Making Gainz nope. Think about it. Back then, coaching was trash, nutritionists sucked, shoes sucked, all of the things NBA players get easily, Wilt would not have had it. This season was not overrated. If anything, it's surprising he didn't get the MVP.
@Making Gainz ??? I'm 17. So what there was only 8 teams. Like Mike said, less teams = only the best will be able to play. I highly doubt you wouldn't be having some sort of pains with the fitness and stuff they got. I think you don't appreciate greatness. You've probably only been watching NBA for the past 10 years with your views on the past. Watch Wilt's highlights. He was balling. Are you in the NBA? No, I didn't think so. Were you ever in the NBA? No, well then you wouldn't have a first hand experience on what it was like playing in the 60s compared to now.
You can't adjust the stats with the minutes played. That's like saying Usain bolt can run a 100m dash in 9.6 seconds. But he has never ran a 1000m race or a marathon, so if we adjust the length of the race with the time, he runs a 96 second 1000m and an hour and 7 minute marathon.
+Noriega Moffett my father watched this man play ball and he would scream and yell and get upset every single time because wilt was just THAT DAMN GOOD. he really was.
Um no, he wasn't. Wilt wasn't playing against world-class athletes who trained 6 hours a day making millions and using advanced medical technology to enhance their ability. He was playing against some people who had day jobs, and making what would be then less then 100,000 dollars now. Anyone who has a wide grasp of different levels of basketball would see this; Kwame Brown was amazing in HS and a bum in the pros - the skill gap makes a difference. Even a player averaging .9 PPG in the NBA could score 20 PPG in College or another league. Do you honestly look at players like Bob Cousy (greatest PG of the 50s) and think he could hold a candle to Russell Westbrook's athleticism.
Walt Bellamy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Bob Lanier, Willis Reed, Elvin Hayes. If you don't know those guys, you should look them up. Wilt wasn't facing guys with day jobs. He played in the 60's and 70's, not the 50's. In his mid-30's on hobbled knees, he was able to outplay a young Kareem. Of course Westbrook is more athletic than Cousy was, but the centers Wilt was playing were great athletes. It's a misconception that Wilt was playing "small, unathletic white guys."
twrambo Wilt is not a better athlete than players today and I was talking about the whole league was unathletic not just the centers The 1962 season is just inflated. You mentioned Walt Bellamy, who's rookie year was 1962, averaged 32 PPG at 22 years old. This was my far his best year, when he was 28 he averaged 17 and his career averaged 20.1 PPG. Same thing with Wilt. 29 Year old averaged 34 PPG instead of 50. No players today are at their best in their rookie year. They peak in their late 20s, which makes sense. The fact that these players peak at the vary beginning either shows inflation of stats or a low level of competition.
You cannot "take out the 3 point shot" in today's game. The 3 point shot changed the entire nature of the game, opening up the floor in a way that a guy like Wilt would MURDER you inside today. No, he wouldn't average 50 a game because there would be guys taking three point shots, but that is the biggest reason. Baylor might have some trouble in today's game, because he was small by today's small forward standards, though a phenomenal player. Oscar would be Oscar in any era, one of the best all around players, ever. Pettit was a great forward who could shoot outside, and would do well in today's game, perhaps not like what he did then, again because of bigger forwards guarding him.
Did he take into account that Wilt was a Centre? not a PG or SG so all his FG would have been in the post compared to most of these players he's comparing to who would be 3PT shooters. How bout training, eating, supplements, technology etc. improvements? all sport has evolved so the athletes of course are stronger, faster as they should be but you just can't compare it's disrespectful to these greats
JimmyJames82 Everyone compares. Anyway, comparing old athletes to newer athletes gave oldies the edge : more possessions, more shots taken, more points, more rebounds and more minutes despite the advance training and nutrition.
Don't forget either, the rules today make the game far less physical, and it would have been much harder to defend Wilt than it was in previous eras where you could have excessive physical contact and hand check.
In nba's 60 all athletes like Robertson, Russel and Chamberlain retired before even reaching 35 yo, from 30s they already lost most of their power that they have in youger days. This is because they played for at least 45 minutes per game in every game for 8/9 consecutive seasons. Is not about training, eating, supplements, technology etc, is about regulating energy that in todays nba make you be in a top form at least up to 34 yo. Sorry for my english hope you understand
I see you have two videos called "7 Stories that Prove Michael Jordan was not Human" and "7 Stories that Prove Kobe Bryant was not Human." You should delete this video and replace it with "13 Stories that Prove Wilt Chamberlain was not Human." Here are those stories: 1. Scored 100 points in a game against a 6-10 center (same size as Dwight Howard). 2. Recorded an NBA record 55 rebounds against BILL RUSSELL. 3. Blocked 26 shots in a game against the Detroit Pistons. 4. Recorded an "unofficial" quintuple-double (blocks and steals were not yet officially recorded) - 53 points, 32 rebounds, 24 blocks, 13 assists and 11 steals on March 18, 1968 against the Los Angeles Lakers with 7-0 Mel Counts at center. 5. 122 games (regular season and playoffs) with 50 or more points (Michael Jordan is the next closest with 39). 6. 32 games (regular season and playoffs) with 60 or more points (The next closest players are Kobe Bryant - 6, Michael Jordan - 5, and Elgin Baylor - 4). 7. Wilt recorded the ONLY official double triple-double in NBA history, 22 points, 25 rebounds, 21 assists on February 2, 1968 against a Detroit Pistons team that had two Hall-of-Famers and two All-Stars not in the Hall (as well as a player who averaged a double-double over his career but never made an All-Star game). 8. Wilt is the ONLY player in NBA history to record a quadruple double-double (40+ in two different categories). HE DID THIS 8 TIMES. 9. Wilt once went 18 for 18 from the field on February 24, 1967 against the Baltimore Bullets. 10. Wilt is the ONLY center to ever lead the league in assists for a season (1968). 11. Wilt averaged 45.8 minutes a game over his career and never once fouled out. 12. Wilt has 78 total OFFICIAL triple-doubles. The next closest center is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with 21. 13. Wilt recorded a 30-30 (30+ points and rebounds in a game) 103 times. All other NBA players COMBINED have done this a total of 28 times throughout the history of the league. I picked 13 stories to commemorate the jersey number he wore throughout his NBA career. There are so many more stories that could be used, not only in the NBA, but in college and high school as well. Not to mention his time with the Harlem Globetrotters. There are also many off-the-court stories (Google "Lynda Huey + Wilt + boat" for one amazing example). I grew up in the Jordan era, but after doing thorough research I've come to realize Wilt's unmatched greatness. A real-life Paul Bunyan. Picture a man with the strength of Shaquille O'Neal and the agility of Hakeem Olajuwon. That's Wilt Chamberlain.
1. His defender was darrall imhoff. Ever heard of him? Exactly 2. Um, there were 150 missed shots in that game. My question is why would the tallest guy on the court not get atleast 100 of those rebounds. 3. Against the most skilled shot takers in history I bet. We all know that all the players on that pistons team had handles like kyrie irving. 4. Prove it. 5. Against midgets. 6. Against munchkins. 7. Billy Cunningham and hal greer have stated how bad wilt was with passing only to players that would shoot immediately to get an assist. He was a stat padder. 8. against orphans 9. Deandre can do that easy. Deandre is the all time leader in field goal percentage by the way. 10. Stat padding. 11. Goes to show how animated he was to play D huh? 12. Stat padding. 13. Against infants. How dare you compare wilts skill to hakeems. That's really disgusting.
You're using terms midgets and munchkins to describe players like Bill Russell 6-10, Nate Thurmond 6-11, Bob Lanier 6-11, Walt Bellamy 6-11, Willis Reed 6-9, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 7-2, Elvin Hayes 6-9, just a few of the HOF players he faced by the way. The fact that you are using the misconception that he played short, white guys shows how little you know... The great thing is, that I love Hakeem, but I also appreciate Wilt and all the great players of the past. You're just hating on a guy because of his era (who you are very misinformed about). No matter, I'll disagree with you and agree with Julius Erving, Karl Malone, Kareem, Rick Barry, Earl Monroe, Connie Hawkins, Jerry West, Chris Webber, Bob Lanier, Bill Russell, and so many other greats who actually played the game, who have gone on record to say that Wilt was the greatest center. All the best.
twrambo Thurmond did not start playing full minutes till 1965. Lanier didn't play in the 60s. Willis Reed couldn't jump and didn't start playing till 65 aswell. Just watch footage of him playing. Willis couldn't get off the ground. Elvin Hayes started playing in 1969 and Kareem started in 1970. So the only two players that are left in the early 60s are Bellamy and Russell. Both Bellamy and Russell could actually defend. But if wilt is shooting 40 shots per game in 1962, Russell and bellamy aren't going to be there to contest all 40 of those shots. So most of the time, he was playing against midgets or slightly tall guys that could not jump.
***** the only two athletic big men that had a chance at contesting wilt chamberlains shots in 1962 were Bellamy and Russell. I could name you at least 50 athletic big men in the NBA today.
50 athletic big men today?! There are hardly any big men left in the league. I hope with the emergence of Joel Embiid and Karl-Anthony Townes we see a resurgence, but the league has seen a decline in solid big men since the 1990s. As far as 1962 season goes there were other athletic big men in the league, like HOF Wayne Embry, who was the same size as Ben Wallace and HOF Clyde Lovellette, who was the size of Dwight Howard. Then you have the 7 foot All-Star Walter Dukes... Honestly, what gets me about you Wilt haters is that you take time to bash the man. If you don't like him, then why do you watch videos and tape on him? Maybe I don't understand, because I don't do that, as I appreciate players like Kareem, Hakeem, and Shaq. They just never made my jaw drop as much as Wilt did. He faced 15 HOF big men throughout his career, whereas Hakeem faced 12. I just appreciate players, I never waste time hating on great players.
Will people stop it with the myth that Chamberlain faced 5'6 midgets who had day jobs? This was the 60s not the goddamn 40s. The average center back then was 6'10, which is only only inch shorter than today's. They played the game professionally and took it fucking seriously. The lack of space also prevented scrubs from joining, despite less investments into the sport. Consider the following and you will see why he'd be nearly unstoppable in today's league: Yes it's true Chamberlain had more possessions back in the day (but who can play 45 minutes every game?). But note there were no hand checking. They were much more strict in limiting centers' offense with fouls unlike the 80s to today's era. The 60s favored defense much more than offense. Wilt once commented that Shaq couldn't be physical in the 60s because the way he dips his shoulders, it would have been an automatic foul. Chamberlain didn't just dunk the ball like Shaq; he had a variety of moves (finger roll, fadeaway jumper, spin, skyhook like Kareem) and he still led the league in TS%. (1) Assists? Led one season in assists, the only center to do so CHECK (2) Scoring? Obviously the greatest scoring seasons of all time (50.4) and could have scored 40 on average but was told to pass the ball more in his later seasons (hence the assist record). Watch a footage of him making 4 three pointers in a row as a Laker bets on him. CHECK (3) Defense? He often averaged 15+ blocks and 20+ rebounds... most players can't even do this over a lifetime. When he was in his mid 40-s, he blocked every one of Magic Johnson's shots at a pick-up game.... CHECK (4) Speed? Has the greatest track/ field record of any basketball player ever. Look up his records. It's insane that a 7'2 guy can move this fast. (5) Stamina? He averaged 48.5 minutes in some seasons and 45 min as his career average. That's fucking insane. CHECK (6) Strength? Honestly, you could write a whole article on this alone. He carries 220+ pound guys with one hand each like they're nothing. It's just ridiculous. He dislocated Gus Johnson's shoulders with an indirect contact block. Just endless stories. 600lb bench press in his prime and when he was training with Arnold, he could do 550+ confirmed. That's far more than Shaq ever did! CHECK (7) Vertical? There are true stories that he touched the top edge of the board when basketballs got stuck. He won several high jump contests in college. He had quite probably the greatest reach of all time, block even Kareem's sky hooks. CHECK (8) Basketball IQ? His intelligence was off the charts. He never fouled out of a game! That's probably one of his most insane records. The 60s was notorious for foul calls on offense. This man would be ridiculous in the offense-oriented NBA of today. CHECK (9) Accuracy? He led the league in TS% at 72%. You can't beat this. His efficiency was insane. CHECK
Btw he wasn't actually 7'2" he was more like 7'0.5" not that it makes a huge difference but it kinda disproves the idea that he was just towering over his oponents even more
Wilts endurance was incredible to play 48.3 minutes for entire season...could jump really high, strongest player in NBA history, elite track star and very fast.
dont have to have a 3 pt line . curry could take alot more shots as compared to this era. in the past pete created handles and nobody could stop him and his shooting ability. why ? nobody will have answer for something they didnt seen or face before. they wouldnt stop curry or any elite scorers today. defense are honestly just too trash and weak in the past.
R.J. Perfetto my ass . did you even watch jordan play ? please don't bring bad boy piston and knicks acting as if all games were that tough please . nba even took the steps to soften handcheck rules because bad boys were utilizing them while mj hit the gym . shorten the 3 pt line which fits perfectly into mj shooting range , making mj unconsious shooting from outside range . expansion team added filled with rookies that haven't even play a single pro game . talent is watered down , many talents are leaving their team to join a good team . while knicks was top in the league in defense , their offense way below average standard(their era). they were able to give bulls and the refs a hardtime . too bad refs helped mj when doc rivers contained him . there ain't even zone defense , nba banned it just so midrange and low post game can survive . all you need is play 1on1 . now looking at this current league talent , with allen iverson changing the game . promoting ppl to add handles , shooting abilities and quickness into their game to pair up with decent/good footwork . sorry bad , elite scorers today would school 80s and 90s . they are jsut simply too slow for us . and btw , 80s and 90s can't even guard their man clean . thus they need to play dirty , push and pull when they can't defend . throw punches when they got boxed out failing to grab the rebound . how pussy is that ? get a fighter in my team , throw some punches at opponent team to make sure they laid back and stop trying so hard .
Never can any of Wilt's achievements be diminished.. Adjust Chamberlain game to today's style and he'd still excell, you have to remember this man was a great athlete at Kansas in track and field.. Also while still in high school he was dominating top college and professionals .. He would destroy today's centers
This is a joke I can’t adjust his stats like that cuz no one else in the league could play that many minutes a game and average 30 cuz they’d get tired cuz wilt is some much more physically superior
Wilt played in all 160 games, and averaged 48.5 and 47.6 minutes those seasons. This is CLEAR evidence of stat padding. No team in history goes through a season without enduring multiple blowout games, so it is obvious with Wilt rarely stepping off the floor that he was padding his stats. A good example is the March 7, 1962 game between the Celtics and Sixers, in which the Celtics won 153-102, yet Wilt played the whole game. In BOTH Wilt's 50 and 45 ppg seasons, his teams were DEAD LAST in opponents' points allowed - the absolute WORST defense in the league. After the 1961-62 season, Wilt only delivered 22 in Game 7 of the 1962 EDF when it mattered against the Celtics, and they lost.
+#Father -Prime And by that standard Michael BY FAR is the most overrated player. Look at people like Stephen A. Smith, to question MJ or Lebron is BLASPHEMY. (his words.)
If Wilt nearly always lead the league in minutes per game, then why would you set his minutes per game equal to Harden's? In the last 10 years we've seen players average 40+ minutes per game, including Allen Iverson who had a season playing 43 minutes per game... In fact, the leader in minutes per game is usually 40+ minutes. So if you're going to take Wilt, who lead the league in minutes more than any other player in history, and adjust his numbers to modern NBA, then Wilt's minutes should be around 43 minutes per game if not more... Sorry dude, but if you think 50 points per game would adjust to only 31 points per game, you clearly did something wrong. Wilt's 50 points per game average was 12 points per game higher than any other player back in 1962. So its was about a 30% higher points production then the next top player which was Baylor with 38 points per game. If you took the 2nd leading scorer in the last season, Harden with 28 points per game, and you increased it by 30%, you'd be at about 36 points per game. Your 31 points per game adjusted numbers are pretty far off. Also, part of the reason that his team back then averaged 125 points per game was BECAUSE of him being on the team. He could run down the floor on fastbreaks and score. Also if you are constantly going to Wilt on offense, rather than doing a lot of setting up plays which run down the clock, then naturally you get more possessions in the game. Both Wilt and Russell were big reasons for the leagues fast pace back then, especially since there were only 9-10 teams in the league and two of those teams had Wilt and Russell who pushed the pace. So if you're going to adjust Wilt's numbers based on field goal attempts, and Wilt played on the team that scored the most points per game in 1962, then why would you adjust his numbers to the number of field goal attempts of an AVERAGE paced team in 2016? Why not adjust the field goal attempts to one of the FASTEST paced teams in 2016 since Wilt's team was the fastest paced team back then? Wilt's Warriors team was 2nd in Field Goal Attempts per game in the league in 1962, averaging 111. 6 fga/game. So why not adjust that to lets say the 2015-16 Warriors who averaged 3rd in field goal attempts per game in this year's league, averaging 87.3 fga/game? Or we could put him on the Celtics in this league, who averaged 89 fga/game, since then it would be more likely that we would see Wilt carrying the offense like he was doing in 1962... Lets see... So Wilt's 1962 numbers playing on the 1962 Warriors, who averaged 111 fga/game, were: 50.4 points/25.7 rebounds/48.5 minutes/39.5 field goal attempts If adjusting to him playing on this year's Celtics who averaged 89 fga/game, and adjusting his 48.5 minutes per game instead to 43 minutes per game, his numbers would be: 35.8 points/18.3 rebounds/43 minutes/28 field goal attempts When you're trying to make adjustments, you can't simply turn Wilt into something he is not... Just because he'd be playing in today's game doesn't mean he would be reduced to playing the same minutes as James Harden... One of the ways that Phil Jackson actually tried to motivate Shaq on the Lakers, and to increase Shaq's impact on the team, was he told Shaq that he wanted him to try to do something that Wilt did, which was play every minute of ever game in a season. As a result, Shaq increased his minutes from 34.8 minutes per game in 98-99 season, up to 40 per game in 99-00 season, and that year was the beginning of the Lakers' 3-peat. So you're going to say that Wilt would only play 38 minutes per game, but Shaq who tried to BE LIKE WILT was able to increase his minutes to 40 per game, despite Shaq being notoriously lazy and not having the same stamina or drive to stay on the floor every minute like Wilt had? No, we can't change who Wilt was to try to make his numbers seem "reasonable". Even saying Wilt would only play 43 minutes per game is probably less than he actually would.
You also know there's something seriously wrong with your adjustments when your adjustment for someone scoring 30 points per game in the modern NBA would equate to scoring 40 points per game in 1962... So you're saying that nearly everyone who lead the league in scoring in the last 10 years would have been putting up 40+ points per game if they played back around 1962? If that's the case, then why was Wilt the only guy in the 1960s who had a season with 40+points per game? Why weren't there about 5 guys with seasons of 40+ points per game in the 1960s, since in the modern NBA there was Curry, Durant, Lebron, Iverson, Kobe, McGrady, and Shaq all who had years with 30+ points since the year 2000? Clearly something is wrong with your adjustments. Nice go at it though...
Furthermore, its not very wise to assume that if you took a player from today and put them back then on a team with faster pace, with different rules like no 3 point line (not just because of more points, but also it spreads out the defense), no defensive 3 second rule, you couldn't dribble the way you do today because if your hand was on the side of the ball it would be called for traveling/carrying, more physical play, and so on, you can't assume that their FG% would still be as high... Imagine one of today's players if they had to dribble the way they dribbled in the 1960s, with more physical play being allowed, trying to drive to the basket and encountering Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell waiting there in the paint with no defensive 3 second rule ready to shove the ball down your throat... Lets see today's players play 1 game under these conditions, and then we can see what kind of FG% they have and how many points they put up Lol... That would be fun actually. The NBA should have special days where teams play each other with the rules and type of officiating that the NBA had in different eras. That would be very interesting to see.
I understand this is a what-if scenario but this is still pointless. You can't just adjust number of possessions and think you will get any effective comparison. I don't understand why people continue to do this. It does not take into consideration how incredibly different the playing conditions and game rules were between the eras. There is nothing overrated about averaging 50 points and 25 rebounds, especially if you are over 7 feet tall doing nothing but running and jumping in Chuck Taylor's for 48 minutes a night.
It would be great to bring a young Wilt to todays nba courts. He could really kill every body and every one would just eat their empty words. Disbelief is why he is not more widely known as the goat. And i consider myself as a die hard fan of MJ.
@bone-snypa Walt Bellamy ; bill Russell is in NBA hall of fame ": wilt played against bunch of 7 footer like Tom boerwinkle; Mel counts : Kareem Abdul jabber;; foreign basketball players 7 foot tall etc etc Willis reed basketball hall of famer first game against Willis reed 50 points ; nate Thurmond;; had enough for today
In one of my brother's bodybuilding magazines, Arnold stated Wilt was so strong he outlifted all the professional bodybuilders in the gym. His lean, tapered physique was deceptive, and he supposedly ran a 4.6 40 yard dash, and could run a 26.2 mile marathon. He would have won a lot of titles, if the Celtics dynasty wasn't in the same era that he played.
Your calmer videos are so much easier to watch. You going over the top and over emphasizing words in a sentence gets extremely old, but this is perfect.
+NEVERGONNAFINDME 6'3 white guys? Watch the film and tell me how many 6'3 white centers you see... The average height of nba player was a whopping 2 inches less than today. Centers were 6'10 on average which is an inch less than today. Do some fucking research bro. Demarcus cousins wouldn't even start in the 60's. Wilt would average 20 rebounds in today's sorry ass league. It was so much rougher and more physical back then, centers were better than they are today.
Shaq is strongest most dominant ever and he still ONLY managed to average 30 and 15 in his prime. Wilt is a good athlete. But bench-pressing 1000lbs doesn't mean squat in basketball. His shooting form was poor, he goal-tended a bunch, and he couldn't make his teammates better as evidenced by Bill Russell's Celtics teams always beating the Warriors and Lakers. If he couldn't win in a league with 9 teams he ain't winning in a league with 30.
Al Coholic if I had the condition to play every single minute in any team sport I will if unfortunately most players now get burnt out so they have to adjust to a time schedule lmaoooooo
@@lotus8965 That's because no adjustments need to be made. Teams could play at that pace today. There were college teams in the early 90's that did it too. Those guys back in the day were true athletes. I love Shaq as a player, but his fat ass wouldn't have made it back then.
I know this is two years old, but I couldn't help point out one of the flaws in this video. Huge mistake in adjusting "minutes per game". You didn't subtract because of height, which you shouldn't, but the ability to stay in a game and be effective is a physical trait like speed or height, not a hard stat. That's part of being able to score--the fact that you can STAY IN THE GAME. It derails your psuedo-scientific approach at the outset. For whatever reason, the coaches or Hardin felt is was necessary pull him a few times giving him less chances to score, who's to say that he wouldn't have been winded if he'd been allowed to stay in and wouldn't have scored during those minutes anyway. By your logic, you could just as easily BOOST the point outcome for past players because today's players are more rested when they ARE in the game. Understand the problem? If possible minutes are the same in '62 as in '16, then that should never be part of your equation. There are also several other problems with the "calculation" but I have to go.
When Magic Johnson played for LA, he would throw an entry pass to Abdul-Jabber, Kareem would dribble the ball, put on some head fakes and decide to shoot his 'sky hook'. Magic would get an assist. I thought an assist was when the pass led DIRECTLY to a basket. Magic's assist totals were padded. I believe that to this day. When the games were played in LA, the assists totals were even more generous.
At the end of the day, the NBA is a business..So it is true some players were helped along the way to enhance their careers to promote their popularity and thereby promote the league. A classic example is failing to call offensive fouls on Shaq. In Wilt's day, he was such an unstoppable force, the league feared he would be far too dominant and they felt they needed to change rules to stifle him and maintain competition among teams and players.
Wilt Chamberlain avg 50.4 points per game because he was that great. if he wasn't others would of done the same or greater. Wilt has been a dominant force putting up numbers of a similar nature since high school. Shut your mouth, you were way out of line for making that video criticizing the man's stats.
The minutes argument lacks base. Just as you cannot blame Wilt for being 'taller and stronger' than everyone, you cannot blame him for playing more minutes. Though today's game may be more 'physically demanding' - subjective, if you ask me - 1960s travel was more demanding to the highest degree. Not to mention no modern athletic training/recovery methods, AND more possessions. Baylor, Petit, Russell, and Wilt were able to maintain those numbers DESPITE playing so many minutes. Who's to say that Curry, Lebron, Westbrook, etc could sustain such play/output if the same demands of minutes/travel/lack of recovery were hoisted upon them? Wilt's numbers were insanely impressive (minutes included!) and he would be a dominating force even in the modern day NBA!
+Tommy Jordan I completely agree with this. Not only that, but there's also the no hand-checking rules of today, and the refs back then were sticklers for rules. Hence why the ball handlers back then looked really awkward when dribbling the ball (since "carrying" was highly enforced unlike todays game). Not saying that the guys today can't handle the rock.....but I would love to watch a game for fun where they get called for carrying and traveling.
Ace Alvarez I agree players today average more points because of the 3 point line. Imagine how many points Jerry West would have averaged if the 3 point rule was in effect back then.
It'd be like if Shaq in his prime were defended by Tyler Hasbrough and PJ Tucker for half the season, only if there were no threes (so more incentive for the guards to throw in the post and not shoot) and if it were legal for Shaq to grab a missed shot on it's way down or above the cylinder and dunk it for a putback.
This is terrible, you know why because wilt was able to play all 48 plus..... He can handle this slow pace of today's basketball. Also take into account the difference play style of back then. Where it was shot the first quality wide open shot unlike today's where they try to get the best quality and efficient shot. Wilt had 70% shoting one season, with the paint much more crowded. imagine if he was play today, with all this space. Less double timex or more ,but heck Wilt had the assist title one year just to show he can. Wilt was a unhuman on court. If only that counted blocks back then his PER would sour. Never again say Wilt's 50 ppg was overrated. Don't adjust numbers it's not real.
@Jesus Saldana Well there much slower in pace today so not sure how much faster they are lol,they aren’t much taller since they have to fake their height and use shoes to look taller like women XD. www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nba-player-true-heights-without-shoes-20191018-ctfvnt2rrjgipkhkoq2dbdfwya-story.html Just listen to stories of old timers like Wilt and how strong they were,or just search Gus Johnson and broken rim and you’ll know what I mean.Players back then were still good and strong,and that’s without many of today’s tools to help them be better than they could back then.
The scoring is about the same. The pace isn't quite the same b/c shooters used to be less efficient so it took more possessions to get the same number of points. But the pace of play has picked up dramatically. And yeah the rest games change things a lot. It's a smart coaching decision, but it does alter things.
I know this video is old but what's funny is that when he lowered Oscars stats from a triple double he compared them the Westbrook but then now Westbrook just finished the season averaging a triple double
+Dry Ice Wilt is an ALL TIME Great, still. Just not as Great at people think when they look at his numbers. The fairest, most accurate way to compare eras are: Possessions per game. Points per possession. Team rebounds per game. Rebounding percentage. Wilt's team AVERAGED 133.1 possessions a game in 61/62. (Compared to 95.6 possessions a game the 86/87 Bulls had when Jordan averaged 37.1ppg) Also, Wilt played ALL of those 133.1 possessions, while Jordan only played in 77 of those 95.6 Bulls possessions. Points per Possession, Jordan TRUMPS Wilt. Jordan's 86/87 season alone would have translated into 60+ points per game in 61/62. Wilt's team AVERAGED 78 rebounds a game in 61/62, the year he averaged 25.7 rebounds a game. (Compared to Dennis Rodman's 91/92 Pistons who averaged 42.1 rebounds as a team when Rodman averaged a career high 18.7 rebounds a game in that season) Rodman's rebounding percentage TRUMPS Wilts by a good 10%. Rodman would have averaged 30+ rebounds for several seasons at a time if he played in the same era in the 60's with almost double the rebounds to grab back then, in 8 less minutes than Wilt.
sorry for all of you young guys, but wilt was the best ever. ill settle for 2nd if you are that hell bent on saying jordan. Firstly, people talk about Wilt like you would about making chuck norris jokes. all the stories may sound ridiculous, but that is because it was true. 2nd, the fact that the 3pt line doesn't exist actually HELPS wilt make his case for being the best. he threw down 50ppg, an 100pt game, and all of the other records that he holds without jacking up a single 3 pointer. steph curry didn't make it to 40ppg, and he sunk the most 3s in a season in NBA history by miles. 3rd, the superstars of today are groomed from childhood to become megastars. they have access to billion dollar facilities, trainers, regimens, film study, etc. they don't smoke cigarettes or drink before games. they don't have part time jobs. in the 60's and 70's, things were much different for athletics. players didn't
get paid enough to play full time. many athletes had part time jobs and couldn't dedicate as much time to the game as the players of today. coaching wasn't as good because there was less film study, less microanalysis of stats, trends, etc. at the end of the day, a guy who holds 71 NBA records, most of which by himself, no matter what era you played in or what circumstances, you had to have been special. and the fact that he played every single second of his career was a testament to his physical stature and durability. he was a freak of nature. he played those minutes because he could. and in a league where the big man has been reduced to a plug in the middle of the floor to just draw attention for a bit, wilt would have absolutely demolished the league.
His argument is extremely flawed. The fact wilt played 48.5 in a faster paced and tougher league. He would easily do that in the modern nba. So it makes no sense
Mike, you are spot on when you state that numbers don't lie. But you didn't bother to mention that numbers can be deftly manipulated by those with sufficient acumen and an agenda. Although the NBA has obviously evolved since Wilt's era, I'm sure the same numerical operation that measured his incredible point totals in that extraordinary season he had would be just as effective in today's game. The illusory nature of this fictitious piece is similar to stage theater in that both events are at their most effective when the observer suspends belief.
Do you realize Wilt did all he did without even trying too hard. Today, with all the show offs and hotdogging, he would finally be motivated to shut everyone up. Can you imagine him being aggressive? If Wilt had played in the last 30 years, he’s the only player anyone would talk about. Think MJ phenomena on steroids.
"Wilt was one of the greatest ever, and we will never see another one like him." - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who broke Chamberlain's record to become the NBA's leading career scorer. "When I started to play with him, he helped make me a better player. We seemed to have a real good feel together, I think it translated into a confidence with him. All players are generally judged by the number of championships they won. Unfortunately, he only won two. His greatness as a basketball player can't be questioned. He was fun, we used to laugh at him a lot, some of the things that would happen. I once told him, no one roots for Goliath." - Jerry West, former teammate and current executive vice president of basketball operations with the Lakers. "As I grew up, Wilt the Stilt was the player. Just the things he was able to do. I guess one year they told him he couldn't make as much money as he wanted because he couldn't pass the ball, so he went out and led the league in assists. Watching Wilt, you always kind of got the idea he was just playing with people. That he was on cruise control and still 10 times better than anybody else that was playing at that time." - Denver Nuggets Coach Dan Issel. "Obviously, he was both literally and figuratively a larger-than-life sports figure of the 20th century. He dominated his sport like almost no one else." - Atlanta Hawks president Stan Kasten. "He was the NBA. He was the guy on the top. Wilt was the guy you talked about - he and Bill Russell. He was the most dominating center - the best center to ever play in the NBA." - Former NBA center and Bulls coach Johnny "Red" Kerr, who played part of one season in Philly with Wilt and against him for six-plus years. "He was always a person that I viewed as being bigger than life in more ways than one. I had recently heard through friends and associates that he hadn't been feeling well, but again, I felt Wilt was a person who was able to overcome anything, so I was totally shocked to hear of his death." - Al Attles, a former teammate of Chamberlain's with the Warriors and now the team's vice president and assistant general manager. "Wilt Chamberlain had a great deal to do with the success of the NBA. His dominance, power, demeanor and the rivalry with Bill Russell says it all. He will be sorely missed by myself and everyone in the basketball community. Wilt was a great performer and a great athlete." - Former Boston Celtics coach Red Auerbach. "He was a terrific guy. It is a great loss to the sports world. Wilt Chamberlain had a special place in basketball history and he will be missed. We had many battles with Wilt. He was a fun guy to be around; he was a 'Gentle Giant.' " - Boston Celtics great and Hall of Famer Tom Heinsohn. "I spent 12 years in his armpits, and I always carried that 100-point game on my shoulders. After I got my third foul, I said to one of the officials, Willy Smith, 'Why don't you just give him 100 points and we'll all go home?' Well, we did." - Darrall Imhoff, who as a 6-foot-10 rookie center for the Knicks, guarded Chamberlain during his 100-point game. "We've lost a giant of a man in every sense of the word. The shadow of accomplishment he cast over our game is unlikely ever to be matched." - NBA Commissioner David Stern. "It's a shock to all of us in the basketball community. This is a guy whose impact changed the rules of the game ... he changed the interior part of our basketball game." - Los Angeles Lakers Coach Phil Jackson. "He was more inquisitive than anybody I ever knew. He was writing a screenplay about his life. He was interested in world affairs, sometimes he'd call me up late at night and discuss philosophy. I think he'll be remembered as a great man. He happened to make a living playing basketball but he was more than that. He could talk on any subject. He was a Goliath." - Sy Goldberg, Chamberlain's longtime attorney. "He just was a wonderful person. He comes off one way, but he is truly a family-oriented person, a person who loves his friends and friends loved him. ... He is a person that will always be one of our favorite, favorite people. Not only because he was a great basketball player, but he was a great son, a great brother, a great uncle and he was just a nice, nice person." - Chamberlain's sister, Barbara Lewis. "I did see him about four times a week - big, strong, big smile. He always thought he could play still better than all the guys in the game could play. He is gone and I can't believe it." - Announcer Chick Hearn, who broadcast all of the Lakers games when Chamberlain played for them. "The 76ers family is deeply saddened by the loss of not only one of our greatest players of all time, but by an incredible human being. We pass along our condolences to his family and join the millions of basketball fans around the world mourning this loss." - 76ers owner Pat Croce. "Wilt was a tremendous individual, I really got to know him when I was coaching at UCLA. He spent a lot of time with the team. As far as basketball, he changed the way the game is played. This is a great loss." - 76ers Coach Larry Brown
Wilt shot 70 plus percentage from the Floor reconcile that! Wilt have been an inch taller today just because of the sneakers Wilt was about a hundred years ahead of his time.
Wilt chamberlain was the same size as kareem, if not slightly taller with shoes. Also during a video clip of kareem yelling g at the referee for fouling, wilt came up to him angry and kareem stopped immediately in fear. A 43 year old wilt scared kareem and blocked his skyhook that game after kareem blocked his shots which made him mad
@@ot-xx6il bro wtf are you talking about white guys and jobs? Nba players were earning on average $200K per contract if you translate it to today's money, also the average height was 6'5 back when wilt and Kareem played, that shit is factually incorrect Also how come wilt was the only one to block it? Its either Kareem was a lucky man or wilt was a freak of nature
he's getting rid of comparing he's saying its not fair to compare stats from 1962 to today's game it basically all even out. maybe watch the video before trying to prove him wrong
Ryan Sellinger Now people cite this video as the proof that the 60's sucked. Whether Mike intended it or not, this video unfairly damaged the 60's and now people give it none of the respect it deserves. I came back to leave a comment because all I see now from people is that "the 60's are garbage, Bill and Wilt are overrated. Watch this Mike Korzemba video that proves it." Instead of doing their own research they watch this one video on a hypothetical circumstance and claim it as fact.
Draven Flores-Rios I hate when people act like wilt only Dominated cause he was playing against 6’3 centers when in fact the average height of centers then and beyond were roughly the same. Just look at this: Bill Russell C 6-9 (1/2) Wilt Chamberlain C 7-1 (1/16) Swede Halbrook C 7-3 Darrall Imhoff C 6-10 Ray Felix C 6-11 Wayne Yates C 6-8 Bevo Nordmann C 6-10 Walter Dukes C 7-0 Walt Bellamy C 6-11 1961-1962 Season, 9 active, avg = 6-11.06" (6-10.81" excluding Wilt) 1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 67) avg = 6-10.44" (Centers of that season averaged over 1/4 of an inch taller than modern centers, and that is if we exclude Wilt - the difference is more than 1/2 an inch if we included him)
Completely changed my mind about Chamberlain. There isn't a doubt that he was the most versatile center of all time. The fadeaway with the bankshot was literally invented by him. He was unstoppable. He didn't get those 50 points per game by just dunking over everybody or laying it up. And centers were also tall back then. It's a myth that he played against total scrubbs or anything. The competition was high back then. Look at the players. Traveling was called, you couldn't do crossover like today cause it was called instantly. There was no defensive rule like today. It was way harder to score inside the paint cause everybody was lingering there. No 3 Point line to stretch the game. His only weakness was his free throw shooting. He was getting double teamed almost instantly. Imagine what he would be able to do in todays league, with all the rules helping the individual player. He would score 50,60 with ease. His stats were tracked for 137 games. He averaged 8.8 blocks. This guy would held all block records. And nobody would be even able to come close to it. His dominance is unmatched. He was like Shaq on lean.
I mean he still averages more points than everyone and more rebounds than most and he was also a great defensive player so it's not extremely overrated
Wilt was stronger than shaq. Shaqs heaviest bench was around 450 pounds and Wilt was benching 460 at 59 years old. He apparently lift around 500 pounds and was the strongest person in a body builder gym when he worked out with Arnorld.
Don't know where you're getting your numbers from but Wilt could bench 600 in his prime but Shaq could REP 500 which would make him stronger in my eyes as repping large amounts is extremely difficult.
+kobe bean Kobe just recently said he would have went to UNC which makes sense because he idolizes Jordan, but yeah Lebron would've went to Ohio State.
50 points a per game for a whole year, is not over rated. The real Goat. Alot of people dont know that Wilt had Pancreatitis for a year which affected his play and he still averaged 37 points a game. He also had ventricular tachycardia and blood poisoning during his prime. He never let it slow him down.
did he say wilt was overrated or that his stats are. he never knocked will he is just saying that if will's stats were adjusted to how it is now it doesn't look as incredible/hard to obtain
+ascensionofchaos I will say that I think it's wrong of us to adjust stats solely based on pace and minutes. If anything, a slower pace and fewer minutes would boost fg%. I also think it's important to realize the percentage of the team's points came from Wilt. Wilt's 50 ppg is better than Jordan's 37 ppg because Wilt scored a higher percentage of his team's points.
because curry averaged 30 PPG against good nba players, and wilt averaged 50 PPG against busdrivers. so you're just being a salty curry hater with shitty arguments. good day!
5:13 Funny he talks about Oscar's triple double season then goes on to compare him to Westbrook....before the 2016-17 season..... Mike Korzemba is Illuminati Confirmed
He would have been bad in his last game probably, I feel like the injury made his last game that much more better, he worked harder. If he didn't have the injury in all his other games, the Lakers coulda made the playoffs in 2014/2015.
And lets remember … players in this day and age average however many less minutes than wilt... that means that we was able to play like that during those minutes... that's not a knock. If you can play longer at an elite level that gives you a plus.
its impossible with modern rules to do that, back then no offensive goaltending, no 5 in key, wilt missed tons of Ft just to dunk them in getting tons of rebounds and easy baskets, and many other rules... if you would put prime shaq or hakeem in that era and lelt them camp and get all balls, they would do same if not better cause of hakeem IQ and shaq insane power
The NBA was constantly passing new rules to make Wilt LESS dominant. He had no less than 5 rules put in place to counteract his dominance. Add 20 points back on for new rules and then you have his 'modern' scoring average. Plus every nba team was a super team, not the watered down 30 team league of today.
Wilt was probably the most athletic player in the NBA. I've seen a video of him in the 73 All Star game blocking a shot near the top of the backboard.(13ft) And I also heard that he was really fast and Schwarzenegger said he was one of the strongest people he knows, and Schwarzenegger was a bodybuilder.
Current football linemen don't even try to lift 600 lbs. Hell, the record for lifting in the late 60s wasn't yet 600 lbs. Are we to believe that Wilt lift as much as professional power lifters. If you have ever heard Schwarzenegger speak on talk shows, you'd know that he is full of embellishing bullshit. Wilt legacy is full of hype and folklore. Instead of lifting weights, he should have been practicing his free-throws. Maybe he would have won a couple of more championships.
Wilt was asked once hey you averaged 50 points a game for an entire season back in the day but you would never do that in today's NBA would you? So what would you average in today's NBA? He said well I would guess around 30 or so. But you gotta understand , I'm 50 years old.
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sounds like an inflated ego
Says the guy who said that Londzo Ball is Steph Curry with 40 inch vertical
I'm glad the FBI has Wilt's back. XD
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Penalizing a guy for averaging 48 minutes a game? Seriously?
Because there is zero chance he does that in modern basketball. Shit, most of the superstars sit out in the 4th when they have blown a team out. He's some mythological god to people. Just like Bruce Lee being some amazing fighter. A way different game and comparing the 2 era's is ridiculous. Anyone thinks he's keeping one of those records today or even 2 decades ago's game you are crazy.
@@itsyourenotyour9101 Because players today always are tired and don't enjoy basketball, but money. You know, 15 players from 60s averaged more minutes per game than both LeBron and MJ.
@Brawl Boi Fun fact: Nate Archibald never won by a lot or lost by a lot in 1973 (when he averaged 45% wins), but he averaged 46 minutes per game.
@Brawl Boi Well, LeBron probably. About MJ, I'm not sure if he'd like to play again with Bulls unless they offered him 30 mln$ a season (adjusted for inflation 47 mln$), you know he refused for a month before accepting.
@Brawl Boi you know, The Last Dance was done to praise and eulogise MJ and his legacy. I don't disrespect him, as I don't disrespect any player, but I just think work hard means other thing (also if we talk about basketball). In 60s rules were so strict that probably nobody of the last 30~40 years, if he could, would play good there, for (at least) five things:
1. Dunks: if you dunk 360/ under the legs/ from the free throw line etc., you'd be ejected (it was considered a techinical foul).
2. Salary: In 1959, the player who earned the most, had less than 30'000/year. Wilt, in his prime had 100'000/year, but just because he was Wilt.
3. Outfit: You mustn't wear sneakers, because they didn't exist, but other annoying shoes.
3. Three points: If you shoot from 60 ft (West did once in NBA Finals 1970) or if you do a lay up, your shoot give you always just 2 points.
4. Sometimes, if you didn't remember your stats and you weren't famous, if you wanted NBA formalized, you must report to the statitian after every action.
5. Just 2% of games were televised: if you played bad, you couldn't try to improve watching your highlights.
I dont think you can somehow lower his stats because he was playing too many minutes. It is actually what might be the most impressive, that you have a center playing in an era when the pace was much higherand he was able to play every single minutes of every game while being extremely efficient.
Wilt averaged 25,000 bitches per game in 1962
but if we "adjust the stats" to today's game...... he only fucked 20 bitches per night (this videos logic)
Lmaoooo
+RubberDucky Russ
They have no choice to adjust, because many people aren't bright enough to fully understand the basics of the game like possessions and pace.
+RubberDucky Russ what's wrong with "adjusting"? When you compare statistics you should always aspire to normalize them if you want the comparison to have any logical value, that's all "adjusting" is.
+Dave Toussaint u can't Adjust stats that makes no sense. Wilt would today's training would be just as dominant u can't adjust stats.
You are forgetting something... Stars don't play as much minutes because they get tired. Wilt doesn't get tired.
Because there's actual physicality, and players are much more explosive. Its easy to coast 48 minutes.
@@locdogg86 "Actual physicality" . Wilt used to get punched and kicked in almost every match without the refs interfering. Nowadays the "real" physicality of the 60s has been replaced by flops
300lbs Shaquille O’Neal doesn’t need to punch and kick to back you in. Players have much more muscle today and that muscle gets used because everybody jumps and sprints to the max for every second they are on the floor today. Wilt used to stroll down court and wait for the post pass and then finger roll it in. Wilt never had a 300 pound defender guarding him.
@@firstlast9916so Shaq was more muscular than Wilt? Even 7x Mr Olympia, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Said that Wilt was one of the strongest guys he ever saw and you think Shaq is stronger. In 1972, 35 year old Wilt was praised for Outsprinting A Prime Kareem and winning many late possessions. Plus Shaq was mostly fat when he was 300 lbs. Wilt was defended by many great Centers like 7'3 Swede halbrook who jumped 6'2 and was a track and field athlete, Bill Russell 6'9 high jumping champion, Competitive track and field athlete etc. Shaq was dominant because of all the fouls that he did. Plus Wilt also faced Centers who were more dominant than Shaq. Robert Parrish, Who played against both Shaq and Artis Gilmore, Said that Gilmore was more dominant and stronger than Shaq, And Wilt used to Ragdoll Gilmore easily. So in terms of dominance, Wilt>Artis Gilmore> Shaq
DaMn sOn umm. Anybody can outsprint skinny ass slow Kareem. I don’t think kareem ever sprinted anywhere. Kareem had an unstoppable hook shot. He didn’t need to sprint ever. And he didn’t.
Shaq would score 100 points per game in the 1960s and you know it. Basketball was like 15 years old in the 60s and 80% slow skinny white people. Give me a break.
This was the most unscientific way of discrediting a player. All you did was reduce his MPG which is completely unfair because Wilt actually played those minutes. He didn't have some unfair advantage. You even pointed out that the pace of play was faster and so there were more possessions. That reality makes what Wilt did even more amazing. you can't just reduce a players MPG to prove an argument. You actually have to make a credible argument. THey had the same 48 min game, and the same 24 second shot clock. It's not Wilt's fault that today's players/coaches have fewer possessions.
and think about it, today's game has three points so players could score more points easily. no way any nba player could score 70 points without 3 points today.
I have been a basketball fan my entire life, but I genuinely believe the NBA has some of the dumbest fans in all of sports with a vast wave of people constantly making comments totally lacking in knowledge. It gets worse as time goes on. Look at those Steph Curry stats he crafted up lmao. Did he even take into consideration that every move Steph makes with the ball would be considered a travel in the 1960s?! Steph would probably averaged less than 15ppg in the 1960s
Also nobody was on drugs in 1962...illegal drug use didn't become a problem until the 70s and performance enhancing drugs didnt become a problem until the 80s....the NBA of 1962 was untainted compared to what we have now.
Even if he played all the same minutes, there were 20 more possessions per game in the 60s than in today.
For real, just wasted an hour trying to explain to a kid on here this nonsensical, not analytics. There is a fundamental problem with stat geeks who never played a sport. The don't understand SPORTS MAKE YOU TIRED. Just because you can put up certain numbers with 15 minutes and 7 shots a game, that does mean numbers will be 2X with 30 mins and 14 shots.
You failed to mention that they played a LOT more games on back-to-back nights in those days - making Wilt's minutes per game even more impressive. Almost all NBA games today have 2 to 5 days between games.
If you adjust Wilt's 48 minutes to 36 minutes you are taking a quarter's worth of stats away from him for nothing. The man did everything people like to say is "over-rated" on a horrible schedule, no good team doctor, a gym that isn't air conditioned, biased refs, hard hardwood, poor coaching, and a pair of Converse shoes. name one nba player who had a 40+ inch vertical and played 48.5 mpg in a season all in damn CHUCKS
Sosh Vujisic His stamina is another underrated aspect of his game
Sosh Vujisic - he can't name a player today who did that, that was his whole point, players today aren't allowed to do that
He has a 48 inch vertical
@@ronniemedina299 they just can't because nobody has the stamina level and consistency that wilt had.
On top of that pace was higher and defence was physical.
Which drains stamina even more
He would have spare stamina today...he would be god on both sides for 48+ mins
It doesnt matter what era u in nobody's suppose to drop 50 a game on you
Will Rich 👏👏👏
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Sure but who was going to stop him? Russell was basically the only guy in the league who could guard Wilt. Despite the author of this video dismissing that, it matters. Shaq had to go up against guys like Ben Wallace, Dikembe Mutombo, Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing, Alonzo Mourning. The NBA had nobody like that back then, except Wilt and Russell.
Put 2000 Shaq (who averaged 30/14 back in 1962) and he'd put up a 50/26 as well. Kareem put up a 35/17 in 1972 and I think that's more impressive b/c there were a lot of other quality big men at that time.
But in 1962, most big men were 6'6"-6'8", there weren't any foreign players, most teams had a black-player-limit b/c they wanted white fans in the South to keep watching, oh and some stuff was legal that would be offensive goaltending now - you could dunk balls that were in the cylinder, and re-direct teammates' shots into the basket while the shot was on the way down. Kareem would have gotten around 50/26 as well.
Will Rich, thank you. What these knuckle heads don't want to mention is that the year Wilt scored 50, the next highest was 30 ppg. that is 66% higher than the next leading scorer.
@@Statalyzer Wilt was stronger and much more athletic than Shaq. Not to mention he was longer and more skilled, also while being a better passer, rebounder and defender. Bill Russel, one of the best defenders of all time only did little to stop Wilt. He would easily drop 40+ on any of those guys.
Wilt was still the most dominant player to ever play the game, period. Rip my friend
Someone could have a near mvp season today with half his points and rebounds
Probably cuz todays league is actually competitive? Wilt was ahead of his time playing with those guys.
Aren't you the same guy who said we shouldn't compare era's? 😂
He said he doesn't believe in comparing PLAYERS from different eras, not the eras themselves
+Josiah Reynolds yeah, chicks were a lot less slutty back then. That makes his accomplishments all that much more impressive.
lol
+Calvin Somers that's what he just did mate
I remember he said a different thing.
It's perfectly fine to do it for fun, it's just stupid to do it to diminish the greatness of a champion (usually from a team we don't like).
He's not saying Wilt was a fraud, but 50 points for game is such an incredible record that today nobody could even come close.
This video explains why.
I don't mean to brag or anything but I scored 29pts in 15 today...
Sure I was playing a team of 4 year olds...and Yeah the trash talking made them cry...But give me credit.
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+gamemaniac85 w
no one cares bro
+Cen Len “Censari” Caf-flow wow your a moron. He's making a joke, you know, since wilt basically scored 50 a game on little kids. It was pretty damn simple, but I guess you couldn't figure it out...
+gamemaniac85 i would have dropped 50 on them 4 year olds but ima give you props. W
I disagree with the "game being more physically demanding" now specifically in contrast to Wilt. Wilt was hard-fouled A LOT during his playing days and refs often overlooked/ignored many hard fouls against Wilt. He took a beating during those games.
the point is no superstar would ever play 48 minutes per game today anyways
I watched a lot of videos and i watch players not even contesting his shot lol. id be open to changing my opinion if you have some evidence though.
@@theartofcompetition5965 sure let me go out of my way to convince a total stranger replying to a 2 year old comment.
@@Maximillian200HP You just did exactly that lol
@@theartofcompetition5965 no I said I wasn't going to bother digging up evidence in a fruitless attempt to change the mind of a total stranger.
NEVER CAN YOU SAY WILT WAS OVER RATED. THE TRUE G.O.A.T.
❤️wilt
not even top 10 all time
@@d3va383 better than lebRUN james lmao, he is not even top 15
@@mimosashinichi6120 then wilt’s not even top 100 if Lebron’s not top 2, let alone not top 15
@@d3va383 top 2 lmfao, michael, kareem, bill, magic, duncan, who's not better than lebRUN? He is a PIECE OF SHIT, all the rings are fake, never win a real ring, never be a real KING🤣
Isn't he still more physically superior to any big man now? What if he had the diet, supplements and training lifestyle of a modern player too
+Jacob Streiff Seriously. After games, most players would drink beer and smoke a stogie with their cheese burger.
like who?
Jacob Streiff no not really players like boogie Jordan capella could definitely make it hard
Jacob Streiff wilt was unstoppable in the low post today players had better weights equipment
Jacob Streiff training videos, shooting videos etc etc
Do what if James Harden could play defense
W
He can play defense but he has to do so much offensively that he doesnt play defense so he isnt tired when its time to play offense
+Duque Braga Defense is more important than offense though.
That so original
+Kobe Tobe Golden state actually had a good defense. Boguts a good defender, Draymonds a good defender, Iguodala is a good defender, Thompson is a good defender, which is why curry rarely guards his man.
Wilt would have dominated in today's game........he is the MOST dominate player in NBA history
And you said that nba is more physically demanding even tho wilt is the strongest player to ever play...... he bench pressed 500lbs!!! When he was 63 he benched 465 which is more than shaq did IN HIS PRIME.......@me when you find a player in today's game doing stuff like that please and thank you
u know u sound kinda dumb...cause u never even watched him play
Johnson Tang you know that you can rewatch games right?
Travis Smith 👏👏👏
Not even
oh so let's not talk about how hard it is to play the whole game
Please do why brian Scalabrine is so underrated
FTM98
indeed
*****
says a guy with a name like adri boy
+Titty Oogel You've got nowhere to talk
alright adri boy
*****
Titty Oogel hes trash
How can people say Wilt's overrated when they didn't even watch a full game of Wilt playing basketball... I haven't, and i know better to respect such amazing player.
Tbh there's not really any exciting footage of Wilt playing. That's one of the main reasons why people think Wilt is overrated.
The first game I ever saw in ly life live was Chamberlain vs. Russell. I saw that matchup about 30 times. Both those guys would still ball and dominate today.
Kpaw Damn you're super lucky then. Who do you think was better between Wilt and Russell?
Wilt could do things Russell couldn't. Russell usually had the better team and the better coach. Both were incredible athletes who would be all-stars today.
Kpaw Damn how old are you?
Averaging 50.4 PPG is never overrated! Wilt is the GOAT!
Not even better than Kobe. And definitely not better than Kareem,MJ,Magic,Lebron
Jshon Smith you’re stupid
@@jshonsmith3399 wilt was the godfather of nba basketball with george Mikan Neil Johnston, bob petit those guy had advantages wilt did not have basketball videos learn stuff,internet lots of learn basketball Larry bird, pistol pete, red Auerbach,etc etc
Jshon Smith LBJ Played in a cupcake era
Kobe is better than LBJ okay Lebron cleveland lose on big 3 Celtics Kobe lakers won two times in a row without shaq, LBJ NEEDS TO BUILD A SUPER TEAM TO WIN A RING
Jshon Smith Not only that but u also disrespect Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Dr J, Bill Russell etc etc...Wilt only won two rings bc Of celtics i mean 7 HoF!! And Wilt won one chips against them
You lost me with today's game being more physically demanding. No Way!
Did I just read 50 PPG and overrated in the same sentence..lol...wow...
But when Wilt does that against players like Russel... It is all about the pace of the game and how it was easier... But when he does it against lesser competition... It is all about the players..
@@LegitPlays777 the pant area was smaller, but wilt was super man strong, great fadeaway shot touch like to bank his shots, unstoppable low moves around the basket but very old wilt with knee surgery more than held his own against young jabber
@Making Gainz how about wilt averaging 44 plus point a game next season
@Making Gainz nope. Think about it. Back then, coaching was trash, nutritionists sucked, shoes sucked, all of the things NBA players get easily, Wilt would not have had it. This season was not overrated. If anything, it's surprising he didn't get the MVP.
@Making Gainz ??? I'm 17. So what there was only 8 teams. Like Mike said, less teams = only the best will be able to play. I highly doubt you wouldn't be having some sort of pains with the fitness and stuff they got. I think you don't appreciate greatness. You've probably only been watching NBA for the past 10 years with your views on the past. Watch Wilt's highlights. He was balling. Are you in the NBA? No, I didn't think so. Were you ever in the NBA? No, well then you wouldn't have a first hand experience on what it was like playing in the 60s compared to now.
You can't adjust the stats with the minutes played. That's like saying Usain bolt can run a 100m dash in 9.6 seconds. But he has never ran a 1000m race or a marathon, so if we adjust the length of the race with the time, he runs a 96 second 1000m and an hour and 7 minute marathon.
+Noriega Moffett my father watched this man play ball and he would scream and yell and get upset every single time because wilt was just THAT DAMN GOOD. he really was.
+dubla321 wow
Um no, he wasn't. Wilt wasn't playing against world-class athletes who trained 6 hours a day making millions and using advanced medical technology to enhance their ability.
He was playing against some people who had day jobs, and making what would be then less then 100,000 dollars now.
Anyone who has a wide grasp of different levels of basketball would see this; Kwame Brown was amazing in HS and a bum in the pros - the skill gap makes a difference.
Even a player averaging .9 PPG in the NBA could score 20 PPG in College or another league.
Do you honestly look at players like Bob Cousy (greatest PG of the 50s) and think he could hold a candle to Russell Westbrook's athleticism.
Walt Bellamy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, Nate Thurmond, Bob Lanier, Willis Reed, Elvin Hayes. If you don't know those guys, you should look them up. Wilt wasn't facing guys with day jobs. He played in the 60's and 70's, not the 50's. In his mid-30's on hobbled knees, he was able to outplay a young Kareem. Of course Westbrook is more athletic than Cousy was, but the centers Wilt was playing were great athletes. It's a misconception that Wilt was playing "small, unathletic white guys."
twrambo
Wilt is not a better athlete than players today and I was talking about the whole league was unathletic not just the centers
The 1962 season is just inflated. You mentioned Walt Bellamy, who's rookie year was 1962, averaged 32 PPG at 22 years old.
This was my far his best year, when he was 28 he averaged 17 and his career averaged 20.1 PPG.
Same thing with Wilt. 29 Year old averaged 34 PPG instead of 50.
No players today are at their best in their rookie year. They peak in their late 20s, which makes sense.
The fact that these players peak at the vary beginning either shows inflation of stats or a low level of competition.
You cannot "take out the 3 point shot" in today's game. The 3 point shot changed the entire nature of the game, opening up the floor in a way that a guy like Wilt would MURDER you inside today. No, he wouldn't average 50 a game because there would be guys taking three point shots, but that is the biggest reason. Baylor might have some trouble in today's game, because he was small by today's small forward standards, though a phenomenal player. Oscar would be Oscar in any era, one of the best all around players, ever. Pettit was a great forward who could shoot outside, and would do well in today's game, perhaps not like what he did then, again because of bigger forwards guarding him.
Did he take into account that Wilt was a Centre? not a PG or SG so all his FG would have been in the post compared to most of these players he's comparing to who would be 3PT shooters. How bout training, eating, supplements, technology etc. improvements? all sport has evolved so the athletes of course are stronger, faster as they should be but you just can't compare it's disrespectful to these greats
JimmyJames82
Everyone compares. Anyway, comparing old athletes to newer athletes gave oldies the edge : more possessions, more shots taken, more points, more rebounds and more minutes despite the advance training and nutrition.
JimmyJames82 say what
Don't forget either, the rules today make the game far less physical, and it would have been much harder to defend Wilt than it was in previous eras where you could have excessive physical contact and hand check.
In nba's 60 all athletes like Robertson, Russel and Chamberlain retired before even reaching 35 yo, from 30s they already lost most of their power that they have in youger days. This is because they played for at least 45 minutes per game in every game for 8/9 consecutive seasons. Is not about training, eating, supplements, technology etc, is about regulating energy that in todays nba make you be in a top form at least up to 34 yo.
Sorry for my english hope you understand
I agree with you. Wilt Chamberlain was amazing and just as dominant as Shaq in his prime
What if Tracy McGrady never got injured Plss make this
Yes
+Lolapplegaming That's a very D-rose like player what if...
we know the answer lol T-Mac goat
+SMaRk don't say d rose is the same sentence as Tracy
how about if yao and hill didnt get injured. or if duncan actually went to Otown
I see you have two videos called "7 Stories that Prove Michael Jordan was not Human" and "7 Stories that Prove Kobe Bryant was not Human." You should delete this video and replace it with "13 Stories that Prove Wilt Chamberlain was not Human." Here are those stories:
1. Scored 100 points in a game against a 6-10 center (same size as Dwight Howard).
2. Recorded an NBA record 55 rebounds against BILL RUSSELL.
3. Blocked 26 shots in a game against the Detroit Pistons.
4. Recorded an "unofficial" quintuple-double (blocks and steals were not yet officially recorded) - 53 points, 32 rebounds, 24 blocks, 13 assists and 11 steals on March 18, 1968 against the Los Angeles Lakers with 7-0 Mel Counts at center.
5. 122 games (regular season and playoffs) with 50 or more points (Michael Jordan is the next closest with 39).
6. 32 games (regular season and playoffs) with 60 or more points (The next closest players are Kobe Bryant - 6, Michael Jordan - 5, and Elgin Baylor - 4).
7. Wilt recorded the ONLY official double triple-double in NBA history, 22 points, 25 rebounds, 21 assists on February 2, 1968 against a Detroit Pistons team that had two Hall-of-Famers and two All-Stars not in the Hall (as well as a player who averaged a double-double over his career but never made an All-Star game).
8. Wilt is the ONLY player in NBA history to record a quadruple double-double (40+ in two different categories). HE DID THIS 8 TIMES.
9. Wilt once went 18 for 18 from the field on February 24, 1967 against the Baltimore Bullets.
10. Wilt is the ONLY center to ever lead the league in assists for a season (1968).
11. Wilt averaged 45.8 minutes a game over his career and never once fouled out.
12. Wilt has 78 total OFFICIAL triple-doubles. The next closest center is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with 21.
13. Wilt recorded a 30-30 (30+ points and rebounds in a game) 103 times. All other NBA players COMBINED have done this a total of 28 times throughout the history of the league.
I picked 13 stories to commemorate the jersey number he wore throughout his NBA career. There are so many more stories that could be used, not only in the NBA, but in college and high school as well. Not to mention his time with the Harlem Globetrotters. There are also many off-the-court stories (Google "Lynda Huey + Wilt + boat" for one amazing example). I grew up in the Jordan era, but after doing thorough research I've come to realize Wilt's unmatched greatness. A real-life Paul Bunyan. Picture a man with the strength of Shaquille O'Neal and the agility of Hakeem Olajuwon. That's Wilt Chamberlain.
1. His defender was darrall imhoff. Ever heard of him? Exactly
2. Um, there were 150 missed shots in that game. My question is why would the tallest guy on the court not get atleast 100 of those rebounds.
3. Against the most skilled shot takers in history I bet. We all know that all the players on that pistons team had handles like kyrie irving.
4. Prove it.
5. Against midgets.
6. Against munchkins.
7. Billy Cunningham and hal greer have stated how bad wilt was with passing only to players that would shoot immediately to get an assist. He was a stat padder.
8. against orphans
9. Deandre can do that easy. Deandre is the all time leader in field goal percentage by the way.
10. Stat padding.
11. Goes to show how animated he was to play D huh?
12. Stat padding.
13. Against infants.
How dare you compare wilts skill to hakeems. That's really disgusting.
You're using terms midgets and munchkins to describe players like Bill Russell 6-10, Nate Thurmond 6-11, Bob Lanier 6-11, Walt Bellamy 6-11, Willis Reed 6-9, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 7-2, Elvin Hayes 6-9, just a few of the HOF players he faced by the way. The fact that you are using the misconception that he played short, white guys shows how little you know... The great thing is, that I love Hakeem, but I also appreciate Wilt and all the great players of the past. You're just hating on a guy because of his era (who you are very misinformed about). No matter, I'll disagree with you and agree with Julius Erving, Karl Malone, Kareem, Rick Barry, Earl Monroe, Connie Hawkins, Jerry West, Chris Webber, Bob Lanier, Bill Russell, and so many other greats who actually played the game, who have gone on record to say that Wilt was the greatest center. All the best.
twrambo Thurmond did not start playing full minutes till 1965. Lanier didn't play in the 60s. Willis Reed couldn't jump and didn't start playing till 65 aswell. Just watch footage of him playing. Willis couldn't get off the ground. Elvin Hayes started playing in 1969 and Kareem started in 1970. So the only two players that are left in the early 60s are Bellamy and Russell. Both Bellamy and Russell could actually defend. But if wilt is shooting 40 shots per game in 1962, Russell and bellamy aren't going to be there to contest all 40 of those shots. So most of the time, he was playing against midgets or slightly tall guys that could not jump.
***** the only two athletic big men that had a chance at contesting wilt chamberlains shots in 1962 were Bellamy and Russell. I could name you at least 50 athletic big men in the NBA today.
50 athletic big men today?! There are hardly any big men left in the league. I hope with the emergence of Joel Embiid and Karl-Anthony Townes we see a resurgence, but the league has seen a decline in solid big men since the 1990s. As far as 1962 season goes there were other athletic big men in the league, like HOF Wayne Embry, who was the same size as Ben Wallace and HOF Clyde Lovellette, who was the size of Dwight Howard. Then you have the 7 foot All-Star Walter Dukes... Honestly, what gets me about you Wilt haters is that you take time to bash the man. If you don't like him, then why do you watch videos and tape on him? Maybe I don't understand, because I don't do that, as I appreciate players like Kareem, Hakeem, and Shaq. They just never made my jaw drop as much as Wilt did. He faced 15 HOF big men throughout his career, whereas Hakeem faced 12. I just appreciate players, I never waste time hating on great players.
Will people stop it with the myth that Chamberlain faced 5'6 midgets who had day jobs? This was the 60s not the goddamn 40s. The average center back then was 6'10, which is only only inch shorter than today's. They played the game professionally and took it fucking seriously. The lack of space also prevented scrubs from joining, despite less investments into the sport. Consider the following and you will see why he'd be nearly unstoppable in today's league:
Yes it's true Chamberlain had more possessions back in the day (but who can play 45 minutes every game?). But note there were no hand checking. They were much more strict in limiting centers' offense with fouls unlike the 80s to today's era. The 60s favored defense much more than offense. Wilt once commented that Shaq couldn't be physical in the 60s because the way he dips his shoulders, it would have been an automatic foul. Chamberlain didn't just dunk the ball like Shaq; he had a variety of moves (finger roll, fadeaway jumper, spin, skyhook like Kareem) and he still led the league in TS%.
(1) Assists? Led one season in assists, the only center to do so CHECK
(2) Scoring? Obviously the greatest scoring seasons of all time (50.4) and could have scored 40 on average but was told to pass the ball more in his later seasons (hence the assist record). Watch a footage of him making 4 three pointers in a row as a Laker bets on him. CHECK
(3) Defense? He often averaged 15+ blocks and 20+ rebounds... most players can't even do this over a lifetime. When he was in his mid 40-s, he blocked every one of Magic Johnson's shots at a pick-up game.... CHECK
(4) Speed? Has the greatest track/ field record of any basketball player ever. Look up his records. It's insane that a 7'2 guy can move this fast.
(5) Stamina? He averaged 48.5 minutes in some seasons and 45 min as his career average. That's fucking insane. CHECK
(6) Strength? Honestly, you could write a whole article on this alone. He carries 220+ pound guys with one hand each like they're nothing. It's just ridiculous. He dislocated Gus Johnson's shoulders with an indirect contact block. Just endless stories. 600lb bench press in his prime and when he was training with Arnold, he could do 550+ confirmed. That's far more than Shaq ever did! CHECK
(7) Vertical? There are true stories that he touched the top edge of the board when basketballs got stuck. He won several high jump contests in college. He had quite probably the greatest reach of all time, block even Kareem's sky hooks. CHECK
(8) Basketball IQ? His intelligence was off the charts. He never fouled out of a game! That's probably one of his most insane records. The 60s was notorious for foul calls on offense. This man would be ridiculous in the offense-oriented NBA of today. CHECK
(9) Accuracy? He led the league in TS% at 72%. You can't beat this. His efficiency was insane. CHECK
That 3s video is insane too he literally hookshots 4 3s in a row while barely even looking at the basket
Btw he wasn't actually 7'2" he was more like 7'0.5" not that it makes a huge difference but it kinda disproves the idea that he was just towering over his oponents even more
He had a 48" And that's an Average. Imagine him getting a running start. That's over 50.
Damn, nice job.
Tbh wilt is just another dude in today’s nba. If shaq played back then he would be wilt x10 because he was way more talented.
Wilts endurance was incredible to play 48.3 minutes for entire season...could jump really high, strongest player in NBA history, elite track star and very fast.
What you didn't take into account is that in 1962 there were no three pointers so steph curry would have a lot less points
+xxBunny Maddenxx Yes I did. I said it in the video. Curry averaged 49.3 ppg when 3 pointers were included.
dont have to have a 3 pt line . curry could take alot more shots as compared to this era.
in the past pete created handles and nobody could stop him and his shooting ability. why ? nobody will have answer for something they didnt seen or face before.
they wouldnt stop curry or any elite scorers today.
defense are honestly just too trash and weak in the past.
R.J. Perfetto my ass . did you even watch jordan play ? please don't bring bad boy piston and knicks acting as if all games were that tough please .
nba even took the steps to soften handcheck rules because bad boys were utilizing them while mj hit the gym .
shorten the 3 pt line which fits perfectly into mj shooting range , making mj unconsious shooting from outside range .
expansion team added filled with rookies that haven't even play a single pro game .
talent is watered down , many talents are leaving their team to join a good team .
while knicks was top in the league in defense , their offense way below average standard(their era). they were able to give bulls and the refs a hardtime .
too bad refs helped mj when doc rivers contained him .
there ain't even zone defense , nba banned it just so midrange and low post game can survive .
all you need is play 1on1 . now looking at this current league talent , with allen iverson changing the game . promoting ppl to add handles , shooting abilities and quickness into their game to pair up with decent/good footwork .
sorry bad , elite scorers today would school 80s and 90s . they are jsut simply too slow for us .
and btw , 80s and 90s can't even guard their man clean . thus they need to play dirty , push and pull when they can't defend .
throw punches when they got boxed out failing to grab the rebound .
how pussy is that ? get a fighter in my team , throw some punches at opponent team to make sure they laid back and stop trying so hard .
R.J. Perfetto bye scrub .
R.J. Perfetto 16 , going 17 this year . playing in proam league .
how old are you oldhead ?
Thank you for making this video. I hate when people say Wilt is the GOAT.
L.
+Burt Macklin LMAO
Maybe because he is because u can't hate a player that was to good for the league and if he played now he would kill everyone on the floor EVERYBODY.
To me Wilt is GOAT but that's your opinion and I respect
Honestly ppl think someone now can score 100 but its not possible unless you like never miss a 3
Never can any of Wilt's achievements be diminished..
Adjust Chamberlain game to today's style and he'd still excell, you have to remember this man was a great athlete at Kansas in track and field..
Also while still in high school he was dominating top college and professionals ..
He would destroy today's centers
From my understanding Wilt fouled out one time in his entire basketball career (Highschool-NBA) and never fouled out in the NBA
@@Mike-yq7ce no he was ejected he never fouled out
This is a joke I can’t adjust his stats like that cuz no one else in the league could play that many minutes a game and average 30 cuz they’d get tired cuz wilt is some much more physically superior
Wilt played in all 160 games, and averaged 48.5 and 47.6 minutes those seasons. This is CLEAR evidence of stat padding. No team in history goes through a season without enduring multiple blowout games, so it is obvious with Wilt rarely stepping off the floor that he was padding his stats. A good example is the March 7, 1962 game between the Celtics and Sixers, in which the Celtics won 153-102, yet Wilt played the whole game.
In BOTH Wilt's 50 and 45 ppg seasons, his teams were DEAD LAST in opponents' points allowed - the absolute WORST defense in the league. After the 1961-62 season, Wilt only delivered 22 in Game 7 of the 1962 EDF when it mattered against the Celtics, and they lost.
Call Me Crazy But is MJ overrated atleast a bit
yes he is very overrated
Sshhh! We can't criticize him! The MJ fans will not allow for anyone to doubt his airness! The 90's MUST be remembered at the greatest era!
Draven Flores lol true
+#Father -Prime And by that standard Michael BY FAR is the most overrated player. Look at people like Stephen A. Smith, to question MJ or Lebron is BLASPHEMY. (his words.)
+Chatun Saram Wilt > MJ
If Wilt nearly always lead the league in minutes per game, then why would you set his minutes per game equal to Harden's? In the last 10 years we've seen players average 40+ minutes per game, including Allen Iverson who had a season playing 43 minutes per game... In fact, the leader in minutes per game is usually 40+ minutes. So if you're going to take Wilt, who lead the league in minutes more than any other player in history, and adjust his numbers to modern NBA, then Wilt's minutes should be around 43 minutes per game if not more...
Sorry dude, but if you think 50 points per game would adjust to only 31 points per game, you clearly did something wrong. Wilt's 50 points per game average was 12 points per game higher than any other player back in 1962. So its was about a 30% higher points production then the next top player which was Baylor with 38 points per game. If you took the 2nd leading scorer in the last season, Harden with 28 points per game, and you increased it by 30%, you'd be at about 36 points per game. Your 31 points per game adjusted numbers are pretty far off.
Also, part of the reason that his team back then averaged 125 points per game was BECAUSE of him being on the team. He could run down the floor on fastbreaks and score. Also if you are constantly going to Wilt on offense, rather than doing a lot of setting up plays which run down the clock, then naturally you get more possessions in the game. Both Wilt and Russell were big reasons for the leagues fast pace back then, especially since there were only 9-10 teams in the league and two of those teams had Wilt and Russell who pushed the pace. So if you're going to adjust Wilt's numbers based on field goal attempts, and Wilt played on the team that scored the most points per game in 1962, then why would you adjust his numbers to the number of field goal attempts of an AVERAGE paced team in 2016? Why not adjust the field goal attempts to one of the FASTEST paced teams in 2016 since Wilt's team was the fastest paced team back then? Wilt's Warriors team was 2nd in Field Goal Attempts per game in the league in 1962, averaging 111. 6 fga/game. So why not adjust that to lets say the 2015-16 Warriors who averaged 3rd in field goal attempts per game in this year's league, averaging 87.3 fga/game? Or we could put him on the Celtics in this league, who averaged 89 fga/game, since then it would be more likely that we would see Wilt carrying the offense like he was doing in 1962... Lets see...
So Wilt's 1962 numbers playing on the 1962 Warriors, who averaged 111 fga/game, were:
50.4 points/25.7 rebounds/48.5 minutes/39.5 field goal attempts
If adjusting to him playing on this year's Celtics who averaged 89 fga/game, and adjusting his 48.5 minutes per game instead to 43 minutes per game, his numbers would be:
35.8 points/18.3 rebounds/43 minutes/28 field goal attempts
When you're trying to make adjustments, you can't simply turn Wilt into something he is not... Just because he'd be playing in today's game doesn't mean he would be reduced to playing the same minutes as James Harden... One of the ways that Phil Jackson actually tried to motivate Shaq on the Lakers, and to increase Shaq's impact on the team, was he told Shaq that he wanted him to try to do something that Wilt did, which was play every minute of ever game in a season. As a result, Shaq increased his minutes from 34.8 minutes per game in 98-99 season, up to 40 per game in 99-00 season, and that year was the beginning of the Lakers' 3-peat. So you're going to say that Wilt would only play 38 minutes per game, but Shaq who tried to BE LIKE WILT was able to increase his minutes to 40 per game, despite Shaq being notoriously lazy and not having the same stamina or drive to stay on the floor every minute like Wilt had? No, we can't change who Wilt was to try to make his numbers seem "reasonable". Even saying Wilt would only play 43 minutes per game is probably less than he actually would.
You also know there's something seriously wrong with your adjustments when your adjustment for someone scoring 30 points per game in the modern NBA would equate to scoring 40 points per game in 1962... So you're saying that nearly everyone who lead the league in scoring in the last 10 years would have been putting up 40+ points per game if they played back around 1962? If that's the case, then why was Wilt the only guy in the 1960s who had a season with 40+points per game? Why weren't there about 5 guys with seasons of 40+ points per game in the 1960s, since in the modern NBA there was Curry, Durant, Lebron, Iverson, Kobe, McGrady, and Shaq all who had years with 30+ points since the year 2000? Clearly something is wrong with your adjustments. Nice go at it though...
Furthermore, its not very wise to assume that if you took a player from today and put them back then on a team with faster pace, with different rules like no 3 point line (not just because of more points, but also it spreads out the defense), no defensive 3 second rule, you couldn't dribble the way you do today because if your hand was on the side of the ball it would be called for traveling/carrying, more physical play, and so on, you can't assume that their FG% would still be as high...
Imagine one of today's players if they had to dribble the way they dribbled in the 1960s, with more physical play being allowed, trying to drive to the basket and encountering Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell waiting there in the paint with no defensive 3 second rule ready to shove the ball down your throat... Lets see today's players play 1 game under these conditions, and then we can see what kind of FG% they have and how many points they put up Lol... That would be fun actually. The NBA should have special days where teams play each other with the rules and type of officiating that the NBA had in different eras. That would be very interesting to see.
Great post!
Legendary post. Bravo.
because he wasn't
Points per game:50.4
Rebounds per game:25
*ASSISTS:2.4*
Kobe:that’s my man!
*then leads the nba in assists for a year just to prove he could*
Kobe stole Michael Jordan all of fancy score basketball moves
lloyd kline MJ stole Wilt fadeaway and Elgin Baylor’s double clutch or four clutch layup And Dr J dunks
Dude you're insane. He's by far the best played ever. By far
How dare you disrespect Wilt
Markers no disrespect, just stating facts
No facts, just lies
He would be another seven foot goon with poor shooting form in today's league.
Jay MacDonnell Poor shooting form HAHA. You do know the reason why he made so much points is because he used a crazy 7,2 fadeaway
Jay MacDonnell dude you high? he has one of the best fadeaway shots in history
I understand this is a what-if scenario but this is still pointless. You can't just adjust number of possessions and think you will get any effective comparison. I don't understand why people continue to do this. It does not take into consideration how incredibly different the playing conditions and game rules were between the eras. There is nothing overrated about averaging 50 points and 25 rebounds, especially if you are over 7 feet tall doing nothing but running and jumping in Chuck Taylor's for 48 minutes a night.
It would be great to bring a young Wilt to todays nba courts. He could really kill every body and every one would just eat their empty words. Disbelief is why he is not more widely known as the goat. And i consider myself as a die hard fan of MJ.
That Westbrook comment didn’t age well 😂
If you average 50+ pts per game ur not overrated, facts
If you understood how to use your brain and comprehend stats you'd see that it is in fact incomprehensibly overrated.
@bone-snypa and took an ungodly amount of shots
Wilt average 44 points a games that over rated too?? Other years leading the nba in scoring points :;
@bone-snypa Walt Bellamy ; bill Russell is in NBA hall of fame ": wilt played against bunch of 7 footer like Tom boerwinkle; Mel counts : Kareem Abdul jabber;; foreign basketball players 7 foot tall etc etc Willis reed basketball hall of famer first game against Willis reed 50 points ; nate Thurmond;; had enough for today
WHY ARE U DISRESPECTING WILT. HE IS THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYER IN NBA HISTORY PERIOD.
Xander Chamberlin not the most 🤔
Well not in history but yea he is underrated
In one of my brother's bodybuilding magazines, Arnold stated Wilt was so strong he outlifted all the professional bodybuilders in the gym. His lean, tapered physique was deceptive, and he supposedly ran a 4.6 40 yard dash, and could run a 26.2 mile marathon. He would have won a lot of titles, if the Celtics dynasty wasn't in the same era that he played.
Your calmer videos are so much easier to watch. You going over the top and over emphasizing words in a sentence gets extremely old, but this is perfect.
He probably wouldn't score that much today, but wilt would still dominate the league.
FAT JAXSON I agree
lol, put demarcus cousins in a league filled with 6'3 white guys back when the sport wasn't as advanced and he would be considered the GOAT too.
+NEVERGONNAFINDME 6'3 white guys? Watch the film and tell me how many 6'3 white centers you see... The average height of nba player was a whopping 2 inches less than today. Centers were 6'10 on average which is an inch less than today. Do some fucking research bro. Demarcus cousins wouldn't even start in the 60's. Wilt would average 20 rebounds in today's sorry ass league. It was so much rougher and more physical back then, centers were better than they are today.
have you ever watched a video of wilts play? literally 2-3 guys standing around him not even trying to defend him back then.
Shaq is strongest most dominant ever and he still ONLY managed to average 30 and 15 in his prime. Wilt is a good athlete. But bench-pressing 1000lbs doesn't mean squat in basketball. His shooting form was poor, he goal-tended a bunch, and he couldn't make his teammates better as evidenced by Bill Russell's Celtics teams always beating the Warriors and Lakers. If he couldn't win in a league with 9 teams he ain't winning in a league with 30.
This is an absolute joke....
Explain your reasoning
Al Coholic if I had the condition to play every single minute in any team sport I will if unfortunately most players now get burnt out so they have to adjust to a time schedule lmaoooooo
Pappy Tron how because he stated facts
@@lotus8965 That's because no adjustments need to be made. Teams could play at that pace today. There were college teams in the early 90's that did it too. Those guys back in the day were true athletes. I love Shaq as a player, but his fat ass wouldn't have made it back then.
@@tomjackson7755 FAX
I know this is two years old, but I couldn't help point out one of the flaws in this video. Huge mistake in adjusting "minutes per game". You didn't subtract because of height, which you shouldn't, but the ability to stay in a game and be effective is a physical trait like speed or height, not a hard stat. That's part of being able to score--the fact that you can STAY IN THE GAME. It derails your psuedo-scientific approach at the outset. For whatever reason, the coaches or Hardin felt is was necessary pull him a few times giving him less chances to score, who's to say that he wouldn't have been winded if he'd been allowed to stay in and wouldn't have scored during those minutes anyway. By your logic, you could just as easily BOOST the point outcome for past players because today's players are more rested when they ARE in the game. Understand the problem? If possible minutes are the same in '62 as in '16, then that should never be part of your equation. There are also several other problems with the "calculation" but I have to go.
When Magic Johnson played for LA, he would throw an entry pass to Abdul-Jabber, Kareem would dribble the ball, put on some head fakes and decide to shoot his 'sky hook'. Magic would get an assist. I thought an assist was when the pass led DIRECTLY to a basket. Magic's assist totals were padded. I believe that to this day. When the games were played in LA, the assists totals were even more generous.
At the end of the day, the NBA is a business..So it is true some players were helped along the way to enhance their careers to promote their popularity and thereby promote the league. A classic example is failing to call offensive fouls on Shaq. In Wilt's day, he was such an unstoppable force, the league feared he would be far too dominant and they felt they needed to change rules to stifle him and maintain competition among teams and players.
Magic could have easily adjusted his playstyle for more assist but yeah u aint cappin
Wilt Chamberlain avg 50.4 points per game because he was that great. if he wasn't others would of done the same or greater. Wilt has been a dominant force putting up numbers of a similar nature since high school. Shut your mouth, you were way out of line for making that video criticizing the man's stats.
The minutes argument lacks base. Just as you cannot blame Wilt for being 'taller and stronger' than everyone, you cannot blame him for playing more minutes. Though today's game may be more 'physically demanding' - subjective, if you ask me - 1960s travel was more demanding to the highest degree. Not to mention no modern athletic training/recovery methods, AND more possessions. Baylor, Petit, Russell, and Wilt were able to maintain those numbers DESPITE playing so many minutes. Who's to say that Curry, Lebron, Westbrook, etc could sustain such play/output if the same demands of minutes/travel/lack of recovery were hoisted upon them? Wilt's numbers were insanely impressive (minutes included!) and he would be a dominating force even in the modern day NBA!
+Tommy Jordan I completely agree with this. Not only that, but there's also the no hand-checking rules of today, and the refs back then were sticklers for rules. Hence why the ball handlers back then looked really awkward when dribbling the ball (since "carrying" was highly enforced unlike todays game). Not saying that the guys today can't handle the rock.....but I would love to watch a game for fun where they get called for carrying and traveling.
Ace Alvarez I agree players today average more points because of the 3 point line. Imagine how many points Jerry West would have averaged if the 3 point rule was in effect back then.
Top 10 rebounders in 1961-62 season:
7’1” Wilt, 6’10” Russell, 6’11” Bellamy, 6’9” Pettit, 6’9” Kerr, 6’5” Green, 6’8” Embry, 6’7” Howell, 6’5” Robertson and 6’6” Naulls
Top 10 rebounders in 1991-92 season:
6’7” Rodman, 7’0” Willis, 7’2” Mutombo, 7’1” Robinson, 7’0” Olajuwon, 6’11” Seikaly, 6’10” Anderson, 7’0” Ewing, 6’9” Malone and 6’6” Barkley
Clearly, Wilt had a huge size advantage over his contemporaries.
It'd be like if Shaq in his prime were defended by Tyler Hasbrough and PJ Tucker for half the season, only if there were no threes (so more incentive for the guards to throw in the post and not shoot) and if it were legal for Shaq to grab a missed shot on it's way down or above the cylinder and dunk it for a putback.
Overrated? More like underrated, would LOVE to see Wilt play today...
This is terrible, you know why because wilt was able to play all 48 plus..... He can handle this slow pace of today's basketball. Also take into account the difference play style of back then. Where it was shot the first quality wide open shot unlike today's where they try to get the best quality and efficient shot. Wilt had 70% shoting one season, with the paint much more crowded. imagine if he was play today, with all this space. Less double timex or more ,but heck Wilt had the assist title one year just to show he can. Wilt was a unhuman on court. If only that counted blocks back then his PER would sour. Never again say Wilt's 50 ppg was overrated. Don't adjust numbers it's not real.
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@Jesus Saldana Well there much slower in pace today so not sure how much faster they are lol,they aren’t much taller since they have to fake their height and use shoes to look taller like women XD.
www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nba-player-true-heights-without-shoes-20191018-ctfvnt2rrjgipkhkoq2dbdfwya-story.html
Just listen to stories of old timers like Wilt and how strong they were,or just search Gus Johnson and broken rim and you’ll know what I mean.Players back then were still good and strong,and that’s without many of today’s tools to help them be better than they could back then.
"this slow pace of today's basketball."
This didn't age well.
@@Statalyzer Today's pace is not the same pace of the 60's. Go look up the stats. Plus, stars today, take games off.
The scoring is about the same. The pace isn't quite the same b/c shooters used to be less efficient so it took more possessions to get the same number of points. But the pace of play has picked up dramatically.
And yeah the rest games change things a lot. It's a smart coaching decision, but it does alter things.
This channel is the most underrated channel on all of YT. Keep up the great work bro. #salute
+Ben Flisakowski Thanks my brotha
I Disagree
you mean overrated?
That is the first thing I thought when I found the Channel
KyseD 27 Why cause i don't think hes the most underrated YT Channel numb nuts
Wilt could average 70/80 in today’s date
I know this video is old but what's funny is that when he lowered Oscars stats from a triple double he compared them the Westbrook but then now Westbrook just finished the season averaging a triple double
...You can't change history
Exactly
Who is changing history?
+Dry Ice
Wilt is an ALL TIME Great, still. Just not as Great at people think when they look at his numbers.
The fairest, most accurate way to compare eras are:
Possessions per game.
Points per possession.
Team rebounds per game.
Rebounding percentage.
Wilt's team AVERAGED 133.1 possessions a game in 61/62.
(Compared to 95.6 possessions a game the 86/87 Bulls had when Jordan averaged 37.1ppg)
Also, Wilt played ALL of those 133.1 possessions, while Jordan only played in 77 of those 95.6 Bulls possessions.
Points per Possession, Jordan TRUMPS Wilt. Jordan's 86/87 season alone would have translated into 60+ points per game in 61/62.
Wilt's team AVERAGED 78 rebounds a game in 61/62, the year he averaged 25.7 rebounds a game.
(Compared to Dennis Rodman's 91/92 Pistons who averaged 42.1 rebounds as a team when Rodman averaged a career high 18.7 rebounds a game in that season)
Rodman's rebounding percentage TRUMPS Wilts by a good 10%. Rodman would have averaged 30+ rebounds for several seasons at a time if he played in the same era in the 60's with almost double the rebounds to grab back then, in 8 less minutes than Wilt.
+massdagod Who cares? It's not easy to be your team's only option average 50!!!! points on great efficiency and have 49 wins.
Its all relative
sorry for all of you young guys, but wilt was the best ever. ill settle for 2nd if you are that hell bent on saying jordan. Firstly, people talk about Wilt like you would about making chuck norris jokes. all the stories may sound ridiculous, but that is because it was true. 2nd, the fact that the 3pt line doesn't exist actually HELPS wilt make his case for being the best. he threw down 50ppg, an 100pt game, and all of the other records that he holds without jacking up a single 3 pointer. steph curry didn't make it to 40ppg, and he sunk the most 3s in a season in NBA history by miles. 3rd, the superstars of today are groomed from childhood to become megastars. they have access to billion dollar facilities, trainers, regimens, film study, etc. they don't smoke cigarettes or drink before games. they don't have part time jobs. in the 60's and 70's, things were much different for athletics. players didn't
get paid enough to play full time. many athletes had part time jobs and couldn't dedicate as much time to the game as the players of today. coaching wasn't as good because there was less film study, less microanalysis of stats, trends, etc. at the end of the day, a guy who holds 71 NBA records, most of which by himself, no matter what era you played in or what circumstances, you had to have been special. and the fact that he played every single second of his career was a testament to his physical stature and durability. he was a freak of nature. he played those minutes because he could. and in a league where the big man has been reduced to a plug in the middle of the floor to just draw attention for a bit, wilt would have absolutely demolished the league.
enacuate lol couldn't even dignify yourself with a real counter argument, just that lame, over beaten meme xD
Derek The Diesel L
His argument is extremely flawed. The fact wilt played 48.5 in a faster paced and tougher league. He would easily do that in the modern nba. So it makes no sense
+Derek The Diesel I agree that he was amazing and was very athletic but his era was so weak
How can you adjust the amount of minutes he plays in a game. He played those minutes for a reason
Mike, you are spot on when you state that numbers don't lie. But you didn't bother to mention that numbers can be deftly manipulated by those with sufficient acumen and an agenda. Although the NBA has obviously evolved since Wilt's era, I'm sure the same numerical operation that measured his incredible point totals in that extraordinary season he had would be just as effective in today's game. The illusory nature of this fictitious piece is similar to stage theater in that both events are at their most effective when the observer suspends belief.
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+Jallon you're a salty ass loser
Please do what if Melo,Bosh,Wade and James were never in the nba
wtf
How would the 2003 draft go without them and how will it affect the years to come like the heat's championship seasons
+David Mujynya Why Melo?
+GERBILSAURUSREX all 4 of them left a big impact the the league
+David Mujynya I like ur idea
Do you realize Wilt did all he did without even trying too hard.
Today, with all the show offs and hotdogging, he would finally be motivated to shut everyone up.
Can you imagine him being aggressive?
If Wilt had played in the last 30 years, he’s the only player anyone would talk about.
Think MJ phenomena on steroids.
playing every minute of a higher paced game is impressive, not a knock against him. Plus, no 3 point line and wilt was among league leaders in fg%.
Lmao. Looking back at this video,and seeing Westbrook now,he looks like gonna average thoose adjusted numbers
"Wilt was one of the greatest ever, and we will never see another one like him." - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, who broke Chamberlain's record to become the NBA's leading career scorer.
"When I started to play with him, he helped make me a better player. We seemed to have a real good feel together, I think it translated into a confidence with him. All players are generally judged by the number of championships they won. Unfortunately, he only won two. His greatness as a basketball player can't be questioned. He was fun, we used to laugh at him a lot, some of the things that would happen. I once told him, no one roots for Goliath." - Jerry West, former teammate and current executive vice president of basketball operations with the Lakers.
"As I grew up, Wilt the Stilt was the player. Just the things he was able to do. I guess one year they told him he couldn't make as much money as he wanted because he couldn't pass the ball, so he went out and led the league in assists. Watching Wilt, you always kind of got the idea he was just playing with people. That he was on cruise control and still 10 times better than anybody else that was playing at that time." - Denver Nuggets Coach Dan Issel.
"Obviously, he was both literally and figuratively a larger-than-life sports figure of the 20th century. He dominated his sport like almost no one else." - Atlanta Hawks president Stan Kasten.
"He was the NBA. He was the guy on the top. Wilt was the guy you talked about - he and Bill Russell. He was the most dominating center - the best center to ever play in the NBA." - Former NBA center and Bulls coach Johnny "Red" Kerr, who played part of one season in Philly with Wilt and against him for six-plus years.
"He was always a person that I viewed as being bigger than life in more ways than one. I had recently heard through friends and associates that he hadn't been feeling well, but again, I felt Wilt was a person who was able to overcome anything, so I was totally shocked to hear of his death." - Al Attles, a former teammate of Chamberlain's with the Warriors and now the team's vice president and assistant general manager.
"Wilt Chamberlain had a great deal to do with the success of the NBA. His dominance, power, demeanor and the rivalry with Bill Russell says it all. He will be sorely missed by myself and everyone in the basketball community. Wilt was a great performer and a great athlete." - Former Boston Celtics coach Red Auerbach.
"He was a terrific guy. It is a great loss to the sports world. Wilt Chamberlain had a special place in basketball history and he will be missed. We had many battles with Wilt. He was a fun guy to be around; he was a 'Gentle Giant.' " - Boston Celtics great and Hall of Famer Tom Heinsohn.
"I spent 12 years in his armpits, and I always carried that 100-point game on my shoulders. After I got my third foul, I said to one of the officials, Willy Smith, 'Why don't you just give him 100 points and we'll all go home?' Well, we did." - Darrall Imhoff, who as a 6-foot-10 rookie center for the Knicks, guarded Chamberlain during his 100-point game.
"We've lost a giant of a man in every sense of the word. The shadow of accomplishment he cast over our game is unlikely ever to be matched." - NBA Commissioner David Stern.
"It's a shock to all of us in the basketball community. This is a guy whose impact changed the rules of the game ... he changed the interior part of our basketball game." - Los Angeles Lakers Coach Phil Jackson.
"He was more inquisitive than anybody I ever knew. He was writing a screenplay about his life. He was interested in world affairs, sometimes he'd call me up late at night and discuss philosophy. I think he'll be remembered as a great man. He happened to make a living playing basketball but he was more than that. He could talk on any subject. He was a Goliath." - Sy Goldberg, Chamberlain's longtime attorney.
"He just was a wonderful person. He comes off one way, but he is truly a family-oriented person, a person who loves his friends and friends loved him. ... He is a person that will always be one of our favorite, favorite people. Not only because he was a great basketball player, but he was a great son, a great brother, a great uncle and he was just a nice, nice person." - Chamberlain's sister, Barbara Lewis.
"I did see him about four times a week - big, strong, big smile. He always thought he could play still better than all the guys in the game could play. He is gone and I can't believe it." - Announcer Chick Hearn, who broadcast all of the Lakers games when Chamberlain played for them.
"The 76ers family is deeply saddened by the loss of not only one of our greatest players of all time, but by an incredible human being. We pass along our condolences to his family and join the millions of basketball fans around the world mourning this loss." - 76ers owner Pat Croce.
"Wilt was a tremendous individual, I really got to know him when I was coaching at UCLA. He spent a lot of time with the team. As far as basketball, he changed the way the game is played. This is a great loss."
- 76ers Coach Larry Brown
Keep in mind that Kareem played in the NBA longer than Wilt. If Wilt and Kareem played the same amount of seasons, Wilt would still hold the records.
Wilt shot 70 plus percentage from the Floor reconcile that! Wilt have been an inch taller today just because of the sneakers Wilt was about a hundred years ahead of his time.
Wilt chamberlain was the same size as kareem, if not slightly taller with shoes. Also during a video clip of kareem yelling g at the referee for fouling, wilt came up to him angry and kareem stopped immediately in fear. A 43 year old wilt scared kareem and blocked his skyhook that game after kareem blocked his shots which made him mad
@@ot-xx6il bro wtf are you talking about white guys and jobs? Nba players were earning on average $200K per contract if you translate it to today's money, also the average height was 6'5 back when wilt and Kareem played, that shit is factually incorrect
Also how come wilt was the only one to block it? Its either Kareem was a lucky man or wilt was a freak of nature
Imagine penalizing someone for having the endurance and stamina to play whole games and not coming out
I thought you said in another video that we should just appreciate greatness, not hate on great players, and not compare era's? Hmmmm?
he's getting rid of comparing he's saying its not fair to compare stats from 1962 to today's game it basically all even out. maybe watch the video before trying to prove him wrong
Lord Bockisins thats the point
Ryan Sellinger Now people cite this video as the proof that the 60's sucked. Whether Mike intended it or not, this video unfairly damaged the 60's and now people give it none of the respect it deserves. I came back to leave a comment because all I see now from people is that "the 60's are garbage, Bill and Wilt are overrated. Watch this Mike Korzemba video that proves it." Instead of doing their own research they watch this one video on a hypothetical circumstance and claim it as fact.
Ryan Sellinger Also, if you don't believe me; scroll down.
Draven Flores-Rios I hate when people act like wilt only Dominated cause he was playing against 6’3 centers when in fact the average height of centers then and beyond were roughly the same. Just look at this:
Bill Russell C 6-9 (1/2)
Wilt Chamberlain C 7-1 (1/16)
Swede Halbrook C 7-3
Darrall Imhoff C 6-10
Ray Felix C 6-11
Wayne Yates C 6-8
Bevo Nordmann C 6-10
Walter Dukes C 7-0
Walt Bellamy C 6-11
1961-1962 Season, 9 active, avg = 6-11.06" (6-10.81" excluding Wilt)
1989-2011 NBA draft (sample size avail, 67) avg = 6-10.44"
(Centers of that season averaged over 1/4 of an inch taller than modern centers, and that is if we exclude Wilt - the difference is more than 1/2 an inch if we included him)
Wilt and Oscar were playing against carpenters and mailmen lol
This is the silliest video you have ever posted. His averaging 50 points and 26 rebounds is just insane, no matter how you try to diminish the feat
Completely changed my mind about Chamberlain. There isn't a doubt that he was the most versatile center of all time. The fadeaway with the bankshot was literally invented by him. He was unstoppable. He didn't get those 50 points per game by just dunking over everybody or laying it up. And centers were also tall back then. It's a myth that he played against total scrubbs or anything. The competition was high back then. Look at the players. Traveling was called, you couldn't do crossover like today cause it was called instantly. There was no defensive rule like today. It was way harder to score inside the paint cause everybody was lingering there. No 3 Point line to stretch the game. His only weakness was his free throw shooting. He was getting double teamed almost instantly. Imagine what he would be able to do in todays league, with all the rules helping the individual player. He would score 50,60 with ease. His stats were tracked for 137 games. He averaged 8.8 blocks. This guy would held all block records. And nobody would be even able to come close to it. His dominance is unmatched. He was like Shaq on lean.
I mean he still averages more points than everyone and more rebounds than most and he was also a great defensive player so it's not extremely overrated
He wasn't just a "great" defender, he was one of the best to ever defend.
Weak era he played in 😂😂😂😂
Jesus Saldana he was in that era himself so that shows how good he was compared to other players
Only MJ is with him on PPG . Guys from his era get snubbed on blocks and steals as those were not a official stat line then
Wilt was stronger than shaq. Shaqs heaviest bench was around 450 pounds and Wilt was benching 460 at 59 years old. He apparently lift around 500 pounds and was the strongest person in a body builder gym when he worked out with Arnorld.
Don't know where you're getting your numbers from but Wilt could bench 600 in his prime but Shaq could REP 500 which would make him stronger in my eyes as repping large amounts is extremely difficult.
Wilt was FAST and Shaq slow. Wilt could out jump Shaq. Wilt had more shots.
I agree with everything you just said but Shaq was definitely stronger
Austin Klave Look up the video of Wilt shaking Shaq's hand when Shaq was in his prime, then come back to me.
Everyone go checkout "The Wilt Chamberlain Conspiracy."
Wilt underrated as hell. I don’t believe in one GOAT but if I had to choose one it would have to be Wilt.
Bro basketball back then was way more physical that nowadays
What if Kobe/Lebrun went to college
*Lebron
Pierre LeBrun is a hockey writer.
LeBron James is who you're thinking of
I'd like to see that one
+kobe bean Kobe just recently said he would have went to UNC which makes sense because he idolizes Jordan, but yeah Lebron would've went to Ohio State.
+ashadevi Malji LeBrun as is run to Miami to get a ring?
Basically, back then it was like MyPlayer in 2k.
Remember what Kobe said “repeat the list, repeat the list Wilt...Me....Mike”
50 points a per game for a whole year, is not over rated. The real Goat. Alot of people dont know that Wilt had Pancreatitis for a year which affected his play and he still averaged 37 points a game. He also had ventricular tachycardia and blood poisoning during his prime. He never let it slow him down.
so we're allowed to call Wilt overrated, but we can't say shit about Curry. I get it. opinions can be wrong.
exactly this man is contradicting himself. he says don't shit on curry but he's doing it right now to will by "modernizing" his stats
did he say wilt was overrated or that his stats are. he never knocked will he is just saying that if will's stats were adjusted to how it is now it doesn't look as incredible/hard to obtain
Wilt would have made a successful behind the back pass in game 7.
+ascensionofchaos I will say that I think it's wrong of us to adjust stats solely based on pace and minutes. If anything, a slower pace and fewer minutes would boost fg%. I also think it's important to realize the percentage of the team's points came from Wilt. Wilt's 50 ppg is better than Jordan's 37 ppg because Wilt scored a higher percentage of his team's points.
because curry averaged 30 PPG against good nba players, and wilt averaged 50 PPG against busdrivers. so you're just being a salty curry hater with shitty arguments. good day!
Do a video on Pistol Pete Maravich, basically the person who started flashy passes and handles.
goat
Bob cousy started the flashy passes pistol was still awesome
Best shooter of all time
+Choli Aguirre "Houdini of the Hardwood"
+Shrek The Ogre Sad he had that heart problem and couldn't play more than 10 years
Meet wilt chamberlain WITH A 40 INCH VERTICAL
5:13 Funny he talks about Oscar's triple double season then goes on to compare him to Westbrook....before the 2016-17 season.....
Mike Korzemba is Illuminati Confirmed
5:12 I love how one year later, Russ averages a triple double 😂
Do a "What if" Kobe Bryant never got injured in 2013?
He would have been bad in his last game probably, I feel like the injury made his last game that much more better, he worked harder. If he didn't have the injury in all his other games, the Lakers coulda made the playoffs in 2014/2015.
Is no one gonna talk about how he compared Oscar Roberton’s adjusted stats to Westbrook, and then Westbrook averaged a triple double?
And lets remember … players in this day and age average however many less minutes than wilt... that means that we was able to play like that during those minutes... that's not a knock. If you can play longer at an elite level that gives you a plus.
If Shaq had stayed in LA
Or Orlando
Wes Manginsay true
He'd be one unhappy guy
He would have been better in. Orlando
+Young Iverson Or both to see where he was better off
MAKE MORE WHAT IFS I LOVE EM
Pls
+Ilkka Sparenberg Same they are great
Too funny Lol
+Jack Clark Cousy made flashy passes way before Maravich, same for the Harlem Globtrotters.
wilt can do that in 2019. easily. don't make excuses for todays players.
I'm weak😂😂😂
its impossible with modern rules to do that, back then no offensive goaltending, no 5 in key, wilt missed tons of Ft just to dunk them in getting tons of rebounds and easy baskets, and many other rules... if you would put prime shaq or hakeem in that era and lelt them camp and get all balls, they would do same if not better cause of hakeem IQ and shaq insane power
Nostalgic memories shaqs power? Ignorant. Look up the stats, wilt benched more than a prime Shaq at FIFTY!
Nostalgic memories also the 3 and key would help wilt so much because they used to SMOTHER the paint with players to guard him
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The NBA was constantly passing new rules to make Wilt LESS dominant. He had no less than 5 rules put in place to counteract his dominance. Add 20 points back on for new rules and then you have his 'modern' scoring average. Plus every nba team was a super team, not the watered down 30 team league of today.
Wilt was probably the most athletic player in the NBA. I've seen a video of him in the 73 All Star game blocking a shot near the top of the backboard.(13ft) And I also heard that he was really fast and Schwarzenegger said he was one of the strongest people he knows, and Schwarzenegger was a bodybuilder.
Wilt never benched 600 pounds. Why do you guys believe Schwarzenegger. Why would a basketball player even try to lift that much.
+rex waller So basically you have no idea whether he can lift that much or not
Current football linemen don't even try to lift 600 lbs. Hell, the record for lifting in the late 60s wasn't yet 600 lbs. Are we to believe that Wilt lift as much as professional power lifters. If you have ever heard Schwarzenegger speak on talk shows, you'd know that he is full of embellishing bullshit. Wilt legacy is full of hype and folklore. Instead of lifting weights, he should have been practicing his free-throws. Maybe he would have won a couple of more championships.
Alex? Wilt was superman when wilt mrt Arnold Schwarzenegger he was old too imagine if they in the early sixties when wilt was young
Alex? Wit was superman
Mike, your channel is just freaking awesome!
+SoMo Paint Thanks my man!
Don't disrespect the GOAT like that
Amazing that the fact that Wilt could be and was double and triple teamed without the ball back then.