"Wilt was so aware of his strength and was so strong that he would sometimes go up weak on a dunk or do a lay up because Wilt was actually worried that he would injure the defender or break the defenders arm or wrist had he used his full strength." ~Jerry West "The best thing that happened to the NBA is that God made Wilt a nice person... he could all have killed us with his left hand." ~ Jack McMahon The NBA today is lucky he came along earlier.
@@felipefasanella7764 one of wilt weaknesses he and bill Russell were very close friends, it affected him in big playoff losses to Bill Russell , young Bill Russell greatest shot blocker and clutch time rebounder no problem with Shaquille o'neal
I thought Wilt Chamberlain is considered as one of the best defenders ever. A player that era said that he blocked 26 shots in a game and he was also able to block Magic every time in a 1 on 1
Raina sinha In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high fscoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was trrrruya team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 i mean ur not wrong but no ones gonna listen to u cause people only read regular season stats the only true way to see a goat is true stats performance(watching them) accolades longevity and winning wilt only has stats tbh
@@erfan3944 ur not wrong ab winning is a team accomplishment but jesus did u just compare a guy who avg 29.9 pts a game going to 45 a game 7 n 7 with over 50% shooting with no help as a rookie and soph in the playoffs to a man who avg 50 a game and disappeared for less than 30 in the playoffs each time yikes u got me on that one bro
Your arguments lack context and rely on perception as opposed to documented fact. Where to begin? Well, there is no salient argument against Chamberlain being the most dominant player in NBA history, so his uniformed critics have had to focus on placing negative labels on Wilt (e.g., selfish, took too many shots, passed up shots, not a clutch player) in order to steer the conversation away from the documented record. Chamberlain is the ONLY player in NBA history to have a TPA or Total Production Average (e.g., combined points/rebounds/assists per game) of 50 or more in BOTH the regular AND post-season. Yup, Wilt has the highest TPA (e.g., 51.2) in playoff/post-season history. This FACT alone demonstrates the absurdity of the argument that Chamberlain was not a dominant figure in the playoffs. In his first 7 seasons, Wilt led his Warrior/Sixer teams to the playoffs 6 times, but he alone couldn't overcome a loaded Celtics squad. It's important to note that Wilt carried his teams to a Game 7 against the heavily favored Celtics in the 1962 and 1965 Eastern Conference Finals. In the 1965 ECF, Wilt became the ONLY player in NBA history to post a 30-30 (e.g., averaging 30 points/30 rebounds) in a playoff series. Chamberlain dominated Russell to the tune of 30.1 points and 31.4 rebounds, but Wilt was still without a ring. In that time span, Wilt played in 52 playoff games and averaged 32.8 points, 26.6 rebounds, and he shot .505 from the field. No player in NBA history had a post-season averaging 32 points and 26 rebounds, yet Wilt averaged that over the course of SIX post-seasons. The following year brought a new HOF coach and the "new" Wilt Chamberlain who placed more emphasis on defense/passing than he did during his prior 7 years as a dominant scorer. The 1966-1967 Sixers were 46-4 in their first 50 games, they set a then NBA record 68-13, Wilt was the league MVP, and he posted maybe the best playoff run in NBA history. In 15 playoff games, Wilt averaged 21.7 points, 29.1 rebounds, 9.0 assists, and 9.2 blocked shots. In 1971-1972, the Lakers won a record 33 consecutive games, they set a then NBA record 69-13, and the 35 year old Chamberlain was the Finals MVP averaging 19.4 points, 23.3 rebounds, and 7.8 blocked shots. A strong argument could be made that Wilt's 2 title teams were 2 of the Top 5 NBA teams of all-time. Your argument that Wilt didn't play well in Game 7's and that the 8 point difference in his regular/playoff averages "proves" he was not a clutch is classic weak sauce. In Game 7's, Wilt averaged 24.4 points, 26.3 rebounds, and he shot .626 from the floor. Yup, .626 from the floor. Wilt also played in 160 playoff games, but only 52 of them were when Wilt was a dominant scorer, ergo, the 8 point difference in scoring averages. If one relies on documented fact, Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT. If one relies on perception, distortion, half-truths, and protecting one's own pet cat (e.g., Jordan, James, etc.), then the Big Dipper is a 2nd tier GOAT candidate.
Yup. The facts are inconvenient, so they pile it high and deep. This flurry of anti-Wilt crap is just cashing in on the Last Dance, the ...authorized... *cough, cough* documentary on Jordan by Jordan, as told by the unchallenged opinion of a gambling addicted sociopath...who is also one of the 5 greatest to ever do it.
There was a reason wilt carried his team, he was a ball hog. When he decided to pass his teammates weren’t warmed up and don’t say that his teams weren’t stacked bc he had multiple hall of famers of his team. Wilt when he decided to decrease he scoring to only 25 ppg he won the championship for the sixers. I didn’t read all of it but wilt only carried his team bc of him refusing to pass.
EB: Your knowledge of Chamberlain's history is slim and Slim left town. In his first 3 seasons in the league, Wilt played with 2 HOF's, but Tom Gola was not a scorer and Paul Arizin was past his prime as evidenced by the FACT that he retired after the 1961-1962 season. Prior to Wilt's historic 1961-1962 season, new coach Frank McGuire asked Chamberlain to score more and despite averaging 28 shots a game, Wilt shot over 50 percent from the floor in a league where the average shooting percentage was in the low 40's. In order for the Warriors to have a chance to compete with the Celtics during that time period, Wilt had to be THE dominant score in the league.
@@EB-md5hz Yes he was a for the most part a ball hog the reason why him and bill Russell had so many Hall of famers is because there were less teams meaning only the best of the best players. Like imagine if all 20 all-stars are on 9 teams plus other great players instead of 30.
One thing to clear up. U said Wilt never Won a title in HS. Overbrook won x2 City League Titles out of 3 tries in his career.. The City League title is what they competed in due to Piaa not allowing Philly schools to compete until later in the century. Just to clear up that misnomer.
Also some player of that Era has said in another video( Cuz the RUclipsr mentioned a quote from someone's book, so I will too ) . That Wilt has 55 rebounds in a game against Russel
It’s was too easy too get rebounds back then and also the reason he got so many points was cuz they were always in fast pace never taking there time to shoot they jus run up and dunk or layup there wasn’t any 3pm percentage for them of course he was gonna get that many rebounds their games back then we fast paced
@@zay7576 Another false narrative about Wilt Era. The era was a direct result of teams throwing outlet passes on defensive rebounds to push the fast break. Many teams based the offense on fast breaks. Not because players shot was broke or some other non sense
@@coachwane If teams were pushing the fast break wouldn't you think there would be more layups, thus higher shooting percentages? And look at the shooting percentage of the poster child of the fast break back then Bob Cousy. I don't think he ever shot over 40% during a season. One of the big problems is the lack of full game footage from that era where people could judge for themselves. Being generous memories fade and people tend to exaggerate the era they're most fond of. To be honest, people just flat lie. Fans and the media. I guarantee, you could take a newspaper account of a game from the 60's and if you were able to actually watch a recording of it, you would think you were watching a different game. Thankfully you can't get away with that now since EVERYTHING is recorded and documented. 30 years from now if a parent tried to embellish the greatness of Lebron their kid will easily be able to pull up an archive of any game and say "dad, this isn't exactly the way you described it." Unfortunately we can't do that today with all of the Wilt tall tales and fish stories that circulate and get more exaggerated as time goes. You even see that a bit with Jordan. You would think the guy never had a bad game in the playoffs or ever missed a clutch shot.
yall talking about how wilt lost but he turned a 13-55 team into a record at the time 69-13 beating the most dominant team in basketball history with 11 hofers when wilt only has 2 other than him
When Rick Barry was asked who his starting 5 would be, he picked Wilt at center and Russell at power forward and no mention of Kareem. That speaks huge volumes. You probably should have mentioned that the Celtics were the main reason Wilt didn't win more championships. Just because Wilt didn't have as many rings or a team that was stacked like the Celtics does not take away from how great a player he was. At times your video sounded like you were describing LeBron, lol, he could easily fit into these reasons for not being g.o.a.t. If you had the chance to watch Wilt play, it looked like he was holding back, like he was taking it easy on players, it looked like he could be the leading scorer, rebounder, or leader in assists whenever he wanted. Kind of like what I see from Jokic today. But the g.o.a.t. is a tough argument, because I think it should be based on position not overall. And then you have the whole era argument, different era, different rules, more physical play and now a whole lot softer. To say Jordan is the greatest 2 guard makes sense but to say he is the best overall compared to anyone at any position, not so sure. Could he play better at point guard than Magic, would he be better than Wilt at center, and of course, vice versa. Like in football, would you say Tom Brady is the greatest football player ever or would it make better sense to say he is possibly the best quarterback ever.
@@justabballnigga9480 they do have all nba 3rd team 🤐 lol.. no need for 3 rookie teams either.. should adjust positions on all nba teams & add 3rd all defense team tho
Sportswriter Leonard Koppett said it best.. I call Wilt Chamberlain a very honest workman. By that, I mean he always did what his employer wanted. No star athlete has ever given his boss more for the money than Wilt did during career. Eddie Gottlieb wanted Wilt to score like no man ever had, so Wilt did. Alex Hannum and some of his other coaches wanted him to pass and play defense, so he did that and he played 48 minutes a night. Those who criticized Wilt--first for his scoring, then for not scoring more--really should have criticized his employer.
I want you guys to read a quote from Tommy Heinsohn: "At 7’ 2” tall and weighing at least 250 pounds, Wilt may have been the strongest man in the league as a rookie. Despite his size, Wilt’s introduction to physical aggression in the NBA was far worse than what confronted Bill Russell. Wilt was grabbed, held, jostled, and manhandled worse than any player in the short history of the league. It went beyond rookie hazing: it was a deliberate attempt to stop the taller, stronger player by frustration and intimidation. Wilt was constantly double- and triple-teamed, hacked, and whacked and smacked as opponents tried to knock the ball out of his hands. The tactics were all the more effective because of Wilt’s notoriously poor foul shooting. Even the referees contributed to the harassment, letting opposing players get away with often egregious fouls, but calling Wilt for the slightest infraction." QUESTION(S): When was LeBron James, Bill Russell, or Magic Johnson EGREGIOUSLY fouled? Other than Russell, have any of the top five been called the "N" word during games? When did any of the so-called top five get their front teeth knocked out, which by the way, eventually led to Wilt's death? Analytics does not consider this. I didn't include Jordan because Detroit punished him. I didn't include Kareem because I personally saw Wes Unseld foul him and I thought he'd punch Unseld.
Thanks for remembering Wilt, but in the postseason he only played 36 games in warriors, instead he played 80 with lakers, a team that he no longer scored with. That's just one reason why the playoff stats aren't looking good. But nevertheless they were great. I tell you, in 1972 he averaged only 14 points and 19 rebounds in the regular season, but in the final he averaged 19 points and 23 rebounds, and in the final match he scored 24 points and collected 29 rebounds. He averaged over 31 points in all of his elimination games (including games when he was no longer scoring) being the only one to score 50 or more in at least one of them, feat he accomplished 3 times, winning all of them, including 50 against Russell and the Boston Celtics. And as there is much more that I can talk to you, and above all check.
I agree Warriors he average 34.7 PpG playoffs which is the highest among any other franchise leader in playoffs ppg. He average 23.7 PPG for the 76ers on the playoffs. And 14.7 For the Lakers in the playoffs. Ppl never put things into context
@@coachwane In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@Hate Myself ” We knew that as long as we had Russell, we could get it done against the lakers wilt chamberlain or anyone else: we had seen Russell do numbers on wilt before, we never feared him because we knew in a big game down the stretch, Russell would own Wilt. -Larry Siegfried
This entire video is Skip Bayless level clowning. The playoff points numbers are highly skewed because Wilt played most of his playoff games after the period when he stopped volume scoring of his own volition. Wilt modeled his game after Bill Russel (and won more) in the later stages of his career, which also undercuts the "selfishness" argument. Wilt was undoubtedly stat-conscious to excess, but it's also true that in his volume scoring years, the Warriors would not win unless Wilt scored a ton of points. Wilt Chamberlain was a defensive monster, who unquestionably would have led the league in blocked shots had they kept those stats. In one game, the announcers kept a tally of blocked shots. We have the audio. They counted 27. To call Wilt's defense "Just ok" constitutes astonishing, surreal indifference to reality. Opinions are like Rick Barry. Everybody's got one. Walt Clyde Frazier, Nate Thurmond, Kareem, and countless others of that era call Wilt Chamberlain the greatest who ever did it. To say that Wilt played on great teams just like Bill Russel is just disingenuous. Wilt's game was more dependent on personal athleticism than any other, and when Wilt was in his athletic prime, he was on otherwise terrible Warrior teams. He took the vastly superior Celtics' dynasty to seven games 4 times, and lost by a combined 9 points, again with vastly inferior surrounding personnel; further, he only played for great coaches for three of his seasons. Russel consistently played for great teams and great coaches. To blame Wilt being traded 3 times on his own personal unlikability is putting the cart before the horse. Russel was a sullen, unpleasant character in his own right, who never signed autographs and was hostile to the media and the Celtic fan base (often with good reason, if you know anything about the Boston media and fan base in the '60s). Russel didn't win because he never moved. He never moved because he came in to the perfect situation for him and stayed there. Wilt was stuck in his early years on terrible teams. With the Sixers, he played on the only team that ever interrupted the Celtics' dynasty. To say that teams didn't play defense in Wilt's era is obnoxiously wrong. Bill Russel's Celtics were merely above average offensively. They won because relative to pace, they had the single greatest 10-year 5-year, and 2-year defensive runs in the history of the league. Wilt also played against Willis Reed's Knicks, also a defensive dynasty. Seriously. If you're going to continue with these video segments, you might want to take your analysis beyond "OMG Michael Jordan's got 6 Rings he's the GOAT maaaan" levels, because you're not going to raid the fan bases of the likes of Bill Simmons and Skip Bayless. This was an embarrassing effort.
Why is it that every time someone says "the playoff points numbers are highly skewed because Wilt played most of his playoff games after the period when he stopped volume scoring of his own volition" they never tell you that if you go season by season every year Wilt's playoff scoring took at dip from his regular season scoring? EVERY year. For example, the year he averaged 50 ppg his scoring dropped to 35 ppg in the playoffs.
@@lavzorvic4129 he wouldn't be anything special in this era. Just cause random up here said something now you think your views are factually validated hahahaha. Pathetic.
This is an absolutely dogshit defense. "He stopped scoring because he stopped trying" yet another admission that he stat padded in the regular season What these braindead takes never seem to consider is that despite all the 50 and 60 point games Wilt had in the regular season, he had 0 60 point games in the playoffs, just 4 50 point games and his career high in the finals was 45. That's throughout his career, not just after he stopped stat padding points and started stat padding assists. Boomers are so allergic to facts
This is Kareem's open letter to Wilt Chamberlain in 1990" It would seem that someone who achieved as much as you did would be satisfied with his career. After all, some of the things you did in your time were quite admirable and have given us an enduring set of records for the books. So why all the jealousy and envy? In trying to figure this out, I started to look for what you would be jealous of, and that’s when the picture started to become clear. Many remember how frustrated you were when your team couldn’t win the NCAA tournament. Your talent and abilities were so great that everyone assumed the NCAA was all yours. But after a terrific triple-overtime game, Kansas lost. You complained about the officiating, your teammates and other things, and then quit, leaving college early to tour with the Globetrotters. That seemed to set a pattern for you. After any tough test in which you didn’t do well, you blamed those around you and quit. In professional basketball, Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics gave you a yearly lesson in real competitive competence and teamwork. All you could say was that your teammates stunk and that you had done all you could, and besides, the refs never gave you a break. Poor Wilt. In 1967, your team finally broke through. That 76er team established records that are still standing today. But the following year, the Sixers lost and, predictable as ever, you quit. You came out to L.A. and got with a dream team. The only lack that team had was leadership at the center position. Bill and the Celts took one from you in ’69, and the Knicks followed suit in ’70. People are still trying to figure out where you disappeared to in that series. True to form, after the Knicks beat the Lakers in the world championship in 1973, you quit and haven’t been seen on the court since. Of course, you came out every so often to take a cheap shot at me. During the sixth game of the world championship series in 1988, you stated, “Kareem should have retired five years ago.” I can now see why you said that. If I had quit at the time you suggested, it would have been right after a disappointing loss to the 76ers. And it would have been typical of one of your retreats. But after that loss, I decided that I had more to give. I believed in myself and in the Lakers and stuck with it. We went on to win three out of four world championships between ’85 and ’88. The two teams you played on that won world championships, in ’67 and ’72, never repeated. They never showed the consistency that the Lakers of the ‘80s have shown. And you didn’t want me to be part of that. Given your jealousy, I can understand that. So, now that I have left, one thing will be part of my legacy: People will remember that I worked with my teammates and helped us win. You will be remembered as a whining crybaby and a quitter, stats and all.
@@joshuasundar3566 Yes. I copied and pasted. The biggest mic drop in NBA history. #1 reason why Wilt is left off of many things. Kareem laid it all out!
@@DeltaLou Guess the 8 years he lost without Magic don't count. Everyone can write their own story. Without another TOP 5 player, Kareem would have literally 1 chip. And that is it.
Wilt is underrated and if we look at him as an overall player he can be considered the greatest player. The athleticism he had was unmatched and his stats are insane
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 if Wilt and Russell were switched teams Wilt Chamberlain would have the most titles in NBA history. He is better than Russell as an individual player. The Celtics were a better team. The Knicks were a better team, Wilt was better than Willis Reed and Bill Russell as an individual player. He is bigger, faster, stronger, a better scorer, passer, defender, he jumps higher, and is longer, he has more endurance. Wilt is the best individual basketball player ever, Russell simply had a much better team, and that includes the coach, and organization.
So much misunderstanding and misleading stuff here. Please read my book: Wilt the Winner: Setting the Records Straight. I'm 68. Saw him play. Wilt - 2 rings in 14 years. Lebron - 3 rings in 17 years. Kareem - 3 rings in his first 15 years (before Magic). What's the big difference? Wilt was as clutch as a big man could be, but the Celtics were dominant over everybody in his first 10 years. That's why he only won 2 - as many or more than any other non-Celtic in his era. The drop-off in his playoff averages is because most of his playoff games were late in his career, by which time he had voluntarily reduced his scoring. Also, almost all big men see lower numbers in the playoffs because defenses tighten and sag and the ball stays outside. Elimination game records are mostly about the Celtics. Close games, and Wilt always excelled, but his teammates often "wilted." About Barry, he apologized and retracted that statement from his book (see video on RUclips) and said he thinks it's ludicrous to say Jordan was better than Wilt. Look it up. Selfish? What other superstar gave up more than 50% of his scoring to help the team? What other center led the league in assists, as requested by his coach - not just for his ego. Traded twice - once because his team couldn't afford him (SF) and once because he asked for it (to LA). Lakers didn't want Wilt because he was such a media circus and their scoring would drop, but they praised him to the sky when he won them a title in 72. Lots of teams would have passed on Jordan for similar reasons. Not dominant on defense? Arguably the greatest rebounder and undoubtedly the greatest shot blocker in NBA history? Really? He intimidated the entire league and held his own against Abdul-Jabbar, though 11 years older. But you have to see defense to evaluate it because of few stats, especially back then. I saw. He certainly led the league in blocks every year and probably steals for his position, too, stats or no. Fouling out? I saw him play his heart out with 5 fouls in key games, but Wilt meant so much to his teams that he played extra smart when it mattered. That's sour grapes from Havlicek. Wilt was told early by a coach that he couldn't help on the bench - he took it to heart. Wilt always played under control, which was one of his greatest strengths. He played long minutes and made every one count. Era? There were less than 100 NBA players when Wilt started. Right, they weren't paid well except for a few - so they had to REALLY love the game. That's why they played - not just for mega-millions. They were genuine ballers. BTW, the average center was TALLER in Wilt's day than today and the average player just about the same. If they look clunky, it's because they couldn't palm the ball like today and they faced hand checking, which made graceful offensive moves very tough. Absurd to say teams didn't play defense in Wilt's day - it was MUCH tougher than today. High scoring doesn't mean no defense; it means faster pace, which means great conditioning - especially for Wilt who played almost the entire game for his entire career. If you want to consider defense, look at shooting percentages. MUCH lower in Wilt's day, though he was the first ever to shoot 50%, 60%, and then 70%. The real reason why Wilt isn't often considered the GOAT is hardly anybody expressing their opinions today ever saw more than a tiny fraction of his games, including very few complete games. And they listen to haters, of which there have always been a ton. Bill Simmons, who was toddler when Wilt retired, has a lot to do with it. His book is bogus when it comes to Wilt Chamberlain. I won't call Wilt the GOAT. Don't believe in the concept. But I never saw a better player.
It’s good to hear from someone Who actually Watched him play. Same situation happening to MJ, the younger generations don’t watch MJ play, when He was The King. Btw, thank you for this writing.
Boston celtics 1960s team had a basketball of fame player at every position, they wilt very close friendship with Bill Russell hurt his play against bill Russell especially in 1969 nba championship series, young wilt would have tear up very old bill Russell, when wilt played lew alcindor, wilt was at least five years past his prime , old and knee surgery knees wilt block bunch of jabbar skyhook shots and outscore jabbar few times
Yes Rick Barry said this about Wilt back then, but he also later said he regretted saying that and genuinely thinks he is his first pick for a team out of any player in history. /watch?v=MSTt_TxoFVo He played from 1966-1980, against a prime Wilt and a prime Kareem, being a hall of famer with 25 ppg for his career, so i'd say he knows a thing or two (especially more in retrospect). In the Jordan and Wilt GOAT debate he said, its not possible to say who the greatest player ever is due to the differences of roles in the positions. If he was to choose a player to build a team around he said it would be Wilt Chamberlain, cause "you win the game with big men and Wilt is the greatest big man in the history of the game".
Well, Barry's quote at that time said that he was willing to publicly say what other players felt. So perhaps HE regretted saying it and that HE was wrong, but what about the others in the league who Barry claims agreed with that statement at the time that he said it?
"I look back and know that my last seven years in the league versus my first seven years were a joke in terms of scoring," he told the Philadelphia Daily News. "I stopped shooting -- coaches asked me to do that, and I did. I wonder sometimes if that was a mistake." Wilt Chamberlain
@@FuShengAlex The way it was handled was a mistake. He was almost handcuffed from scoring, except for offensive rebound put backs. What team can't use a great, unstoppable, inside scorer, when the outside game has become nonexistent, during a critical stretch of a game? In some of these videos, Wilt passes out of the post, and nobody can hit a shot. I'm saying, adjust the scoring to meet the team's needs.
@@wmden1 Yes and Wilt didn't help offset that with his historically bad FT shooting in the playoffs either. No matter how anyone tries to spin it....the best teams Wilt ever played for record and title wise were when he wasn't a high volume go to scorer like other earlier years in his career.
Wilt chamberlain defensive impact in the playoffs is severely underrated. Wilt's post-season FG% allowed vs centers 59-60: Kerr regular season FG% against the league: .39.2 Kerr against Wilt in the playoffs: .29.4 Dierking regular season FG%: .36.5 Dierking vs Wilt in the post-season: .33.3 Russell regular season: .46.7 Russell vs. Wilt in the post-season: .44.6 60-61: Kerr regular season: .39.7 Kerr vs Wilt: .32.1 Halbrook regular season: .33.5 Halbrook vs Wilt: .38.7 61-62: Kerr regular season: .44.3 Kerr vs. Wilt: .37.6 Russell regular season: .45.7 Russell vs Wilt: .39.9 63-64: Beaty regular season: .44.4 Beaty vs. Wilt: .52.0 Russell regular season: .43.3 Russell vs. Wilt: .38.6 64-65: Embry regular season: .45.6 Embry vs Wilt .43.8 Russell regular season: .43.8 Russell vs. Wilt 44.6 65-66: Russell regular season: .41.5 Russell vs. Wilt: .42.4 66-67: Dierking regular season: .39.9 Dierking vs Wilt: .42.7 Russell regular season: .45.4 Russell vs. Wilt: .35.8 Thurmond regular season: .43.7 Thurmond vs. Wilt: .34.3 67-68: Bellamy regular season: .54.1 Bellamy vs. Wilt: .42.1 Russell regular season: .42.5 Russell vs. Wilt: .44.0 68-69: Thurmond regular season: .41.0 Thurmond vs Wilt: .39.2 Beaty regular season: .47.0 Beaty vs. Wilt: .38.3 Russell regular season: .43.3 Russell vs. Wilt: .39.7 69-70: Walk regular season: .47.0 Walk vs Wilt: .39.5 Fox regular season: .52.4 Fox vs Wilt: .36.2 Bellamy regular season: .52.3 Bellamy vs Wilt: .45.6 Reed regular season: .50.7 Reed vs Wilt: .48.3 70-71: Boerwinkle regular season: .48.5 Boerwinkle vs Wilt: .46.3 Fox regular season: .45.8 Fox vs Wilt: .43.4 Kareem regular season: .57.7 Kareem vs Wilt: .48.1 71-72: Ray regular season: .49.9 Ray vs Wilt: .52.9 Kareem regular season: .57.4 Kareem vs Wilt: .45.7 Lucas regular season: .51.2 Lucas vs Wilt: .50.0 72-73: Awtry regular season: .48.0 Awtry vs Wilt: .54.2 Thurmond regular season: .44.6 Thurmond vs Wilt: .37.3 Reed regular season: .47.4 Reed vs Wilt: .49.3 During Wilt's last 7 seasons after his scoring seasons, he would lead all players in playoff defensive win shares 5 out of 7 times during his non-scoring title seasons More proof that debunks Havlicek and anyone else’s notion that wilt is not goat on both ends of the floor and too worried about not fouling out and not a goat defender
Wilt did average 50 ppg one year...on an absolutely nonsensical 40 shots. His playoff average was closer to 24 ppg. Why? Because 40 shots per game is all kinds of bad basketball. His statistics have to be taken with a huuuuuge grain of salt.
@@rexperkins2499 no they don’t. Which is why this load of information has nothing to do with him averaging 50 ppg which was the least impressive feat of his entire career. This is also a most horrible take. 50 points and 25 rebounds is 50 points and 25 rebounds and the field goal percentage determines the efficiency. Not some magical head cannon that reduces your 50 points in one single regular season to 24 in the postseason for an entire career just cuz u took 40 shots in one single season and automatically means that season was bad especially if it’s instructed by the team coach and helped y’all get somewhere in the postseason lmaooo. But again, this comment has nothing to do with 50ppg which was wilts least impressive feat as the goat of nba basketball. Y’all truly need to stop buggin
We can't even lie though, with good coaching, Wilt would dominate any era. He had skill, and he didn't even need that with his out of this world athleticism...
Idk. Nowadays, if you can't shoot a 3, you're trash. I think even as dominant as shaq, dwight, and wilt were, I don't think they would have the same success in today's 3pt game. They'd get their stats under the hoop sure. But they'd clog up the paint so much that it'd affect their team success.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@@casualfandestroyer2503 Your trolling on all of wilt videos are Laughable. Wilt Chamberlain was a winner. Led the greatest x2 teams ever assembled to a championship over all time great teams. Wilt chamberlain 1967 FINALS Game 6 Close Out 24 Points/61% Defeated x8 prime HOF in Boston Defeated x6 HOF in NY 11 for 13 Career Game Winning Shots with x4 coming in the playoffs x3 Of those finals occurred after he rupturing his patella. Led his team to the finals x5 different occasions in 5 different Roles. The Basketball World created x7 Rules changes to minimize Wilt greatness. Held over 200 Records Saved the nba from going bankrupt. Never to mention Wilt often Gave Russell that work in the playoffs Dude Shot 87% in GAme 7 1969 For 18 Points. Or 29-27 average for 56% on Russell in 64 finals. Or the He put up 1967 Finals on Nate Thurmond 17.7 points 28 Boards- 7 Assists. 10 Blocks - 4 Steals average on 56% Not to mention Game 1 and Game 2 He put up x2 Quadruple Doubles 13ppg-35Rebs-10Asst-11Blcks-6 steals. Or the last 4 Games he average 20Points-25 Rebs-9Blocks 5 Assists and 2 Steals. Not to mention his close out 24-23 on 61% performance to win his first title. Accomplish all of this while often being Swarmed by as many as 4 Defenders including playoffs. Your boy never faced Double Teams ever(Russell still a 🐐). Who did Russell ever face hof worthy in the finals at center. Leroy Ellis, Larry Foust a nice players but he was never a top5 center in the 1960s. When he face HOF competition at the center position in the finals like He Did With Wilt Chamberlain or The Hawks with Ed Macauley and Bob petit he shot under 40% with 15 or less points multiple times 58&57, 69 For example. Never shot over 50% ever when facing HOf Competition at the center position in the finals. Wilt chamberlain never not face hof big man in the finals ever or never shot poor finals. I'm gonna keep this ether up when I see your blasphemous on the wilt
Pure cringe. "Wilt was all about Wilt". There are lots of arguments that completely debunked this. But whatever. Just another one of thousands of ctrl C + contrl V videos about Wilt.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's. Top Players: Best Elimination Games EG's Finals # times over 40 Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5 53/22/2 50/35/2 46/34/1 Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7 Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2 Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1 Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1 Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1 Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0 Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0 Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0 Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
Wilt had more rebounds, blocks and assists in that game and had a better FG%. For the series Wilt averaged 35.0 points, 26.9 rebounds and 2.9 assists with a FG% of .467 to Sam Jones 19.0 points, 8.1 rebounds 3.3 assists with a FG% of .444. Plus the Celtics always double teamed wilt in the playoffs.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@BlackQuad they also played thru blatant racism much much worse than what we see today, Bill Russell also played for the first all black starting 5 and first black head coach ever who won 2 chips as a player-coach
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Young man, you just don't know. Due to the lack of video of yester-year games, you, the young guy, don't know. First off, yes, Wilt had issues, especially with the press who highly scrutinized him. During an explosive racial-tension era, he was a black man that was dogged mightily by the press, and that is the information you youngsters are relying on, biased press. Many white people hated Wilt just for who he was before playing a game. Big, outer-worldly, supremely athletic, fast, and perhaps the strongest NBA player ever, but he could never get it right with the press. "Wilt only cares about scoring." "He's selfish." So he led the league in assists. At the beginning of his career, he was demanded to score often by the Philly owner as a business decision; most people don't know about that. However, he stopped scoring after six years, mainly due to his 67 coach demanding that he focus on defense and boards, which he did and excelled (top rebounder and best shot-blocker ever -- you were off regarding his defense, way wrong). We know that team is deemed one of the best ever. When Wilt had good coaches, he won twice. The rest of the time, he had bad coaches and not the greatest of teams, as Russel, MJ, Shaq/Kobe, Duncan, etc., had. Wilt was like LBJ, which is why LBJ had to create super teams to win championships. Wilt could not do that back then. And using Rick Barry as a source, if you knew him back then, that was a reach. He was a cocky young man who thought too much of himself back then. That is like the pot calling the kettle black. With all that said, yes, Wilt had personal issues, but who didn't. But it can be said that once he first came into the NBA, the deck was stacked against him. They changed the rules to make the game harder for him because he was dominating too much, yet the same NBA changed the rules to make it easier for MJ. Wilt was too good, so it is a joke not to believe he would dominate in today's game with sports science at his disposal. He probably could have played another 5 to 6 years if sports science was available back then. Just consider that he played volleyball and pick-up games into his 50's dominating; ask Magic Johnson, Larry Brown, and others on the West Coast; they saw it. Dude was simply the best, but he was often not in the best of circumstances team-wise, esp. coaches. If Wilt were on the Celtics with Red, he would have probably won the same 11 because even Russel deemed Wilt the best, and he played against Wilt often. And when Wilt lost in the playoff, they were mostly seven-game series and lost the 7th game by less than five points in most cases, not by much. It was not like he was blown out. I believe your review is historically inaccurate and did not consider the circumstances Wilt had to endure, including bad press, bad coaches, and bad teams, based on what I experienced. Yes, Wilt had issues, but so did MJ, which we learned about after his playing career. MJ did not have a good character based on what we learned after the fact. A lot of his indiscretions were covered up. He did Kwame Brown really bad.
Wilt led the league in TOTAL assists, not in assists per game. Oscar Robertson led the league in assists per game with 9.7 while Wilt had 8.6 assists per game. And again, Wilt's assists record comes with a caveat "Wilt is a very goal-oriented person, and and under Alex (Hannum) he wanted to win a title and become the first center to lead the league in assists. He liked to pass to Hal Greer or myself, because we just caught it and shot it. Chet Walker usually caught the ball, took a dribble or two and then shot it - no assist for Wilt (under the assist rules of that time). So Wilt preferred to give the ball to us. - Billy Cunningham Wilt went out of his way to chase his assist stats - going as far as to AVOID passing to Hall of Fame teammate Chet Walker because he would most likely not get an assist from Walker under the format of recording assist statistics at the time. "He said in training camp that he wanted to lead the league in assists. He thought that would be cool. Of course, we all thought that would be cool too. But he didn't want us to run. He wouldn't throw outlet passes off rebounds. Only Billy or Chet were allowed to run out and score on the fastbreak if they got long rebounds. "Wilt wanted to be involved in every half-court play, so he stood there in the middle and all of us would run around him and he tried to pile up his assists.You've got to remember that assists were kept much more strictly back then. There was none of this stuff like today where you can take three dribbles and a head-fake and it counts. You got assists if you caught the pass and made the shot. So that meant Wilt would only pass it to guys who could catch and shoot -- Luke, Billy sometimes, Wali, Hal and me. In my case, he'd try to get me to just go backdoor for a layup, because he didn't trust me to do much else. And he'd never pass it to Chet Walker, because Chet always had to be pump-faking or use a dribble and take away the assist. - Matt Guokas
The Mount Rushmore of basketball is Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Magic Johnson. Wilt had to play Russell in the play-offs and Russell was such a great defender that is why his stats dove down. Wilt is in the next tier with Larry Bird, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, and Tim Duncan. Oscar Robertson, Shaq, and KD would round out my Top 12.
It is that great. Imagine the likes of Brooklyn, Lakers, Clippers, Philadelphia, Miami, Milwaukee, Golden State, Houston as they are now playing each other and lacks player mobility. KD, LeBron, Kawhi, Steph, Giannis, Butler, Harden. Playing each other day in and day out. However one team keeps coming out on top. We know they are all elite but one has found a way to win. They all also have the opportunity to figure out how to win cos they play them all the time. Don't take away from Russell because you don't have IQ. Wilt wasn't with Russell but he was a beast so was Jerry West, Oscar Robinson and co..
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
not trying to be mean but if u want to grow ur channel quicker u gotta remove ur face from the thumbnails. thumbnails and titles play in the biggest impact in views. for example u shouldve put an img of wilt in the thumbnail.
Wilt not only wasnt "clutch" but id say that the playoff scoring issue is highlighted because of how much shittier the competition was that he played in the regular season. Once it got to the playoffs where they weren't beating on the worst teams in the league his stats declined alot.
@@MmmScotty oh they'll tell you nonsense about how he could touch the top of a backboard, bench 600 lbs and blocked someone so hard they fell and dislocated their shoulder as testament to his greatness.
@@coachwane i think simply put: Regular season: 30ppg Playoffs: 22ppg Finals: 17ppg This is why wilt is not the goat. Even worse is if you adjust it to 1990s pace were MJ played Wilt adjust in Regular season: 25ppg Wilt in the playoffs: 18ppg Finals: 14ppg💀
Wilt Regular season : 30 ppg Wilt Playoffs : 22 ppg Wilt Finals : 17 ppg 20,000 : for Wilt to have slept with 20,000 women, Wilt would have had to sleep with one woman every day *for 55 years !!* the total would be 20,075 also Wilt claimed to have killed a mountain lion with his bare hands
Wilt has the biggest ego in nba history. Unfortunately, he brainwashed a lot of people which is why there is still a bunch people who believed he is the goat.
@@jermainebynum8265 In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
You are wrong on this one. Sorry. Wilt would kick Shaqs butt any day. Any big man that came after him would be ragdolled. Put Wilt in todays NBA, with the technology, the techniques, the diet, everything... the game would be very different. It is just a weird phase on YT. A LOTTTTTTT of similar videos talking shit on Wilt. Including one from last week with virtually the same arguments.
The Greatest player of all time I don't see how this conversation has anything to do with team performance Isn't it a debate comparing player vs player? Team wins championship and I like to give credit to teams and coaches for championship and dynasties So I value a player for what is only determined by him Something that he can really take a good minimum of 75% of the merit regarding certain achievement In playoffs series let alone a championship In a sport with rotations of players with like 8vs9 or whatever number of players entering the court 1 player can't take credit for having that ring as it was thanks to him alone for doing 75% of the job to achieve that championship
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 not only that. In the 62 game 7 loss to Boston. He scored fewer points than ready to retire teammate Paul Arizin who went 4 of 22 from the floor. And even rookie Meschery who played well. This is 50.4ppg Wilt.
I am not going to make the argument that after his 6th season, he was asked by his coach to slow down on scoring and concentrate on defense. His first 6 seasons, he averaged 40 plus points and 20 plus rebounds for all 6 seasons, plus over 50% field goals made average, plus a pretty health assist average. Who else has ever even come close to that? Wilt had 8 different coaches in his career. Only two won championships, and those were with Wilt. The Celtics, Wilt's opponent, mostly in the Eastern Conference finals, had Red Auerbach, probably the best coach to ever coach professionally. They also had Bill Russel, who was a great coach also, on top of being one of the greatest players. Great teams win championships. Great coaches help those great teams win championships. Individual players, no matter how great they are, don't win championships, by themselves. So many argue about the number of championships won, stats during playoff games, etc. People who have their favorites do a lot of arguing over the arguable things. The only concrete, unarguable criteria, for the greatest player is statistics, and I mean offensive and defensive stats, both. One other thing. In college, Kareem, Lew Alcindor, at the time, was the cause of the, no dunking, rule being added to college basketball. Wilt was the cause of the 3 second lane being widened, twice, in the NBA. He was also responsible for the, no inbounding the ball, over the backboard, and no dunking the free shot, as in jumping from behind the free shot line, while in college. There may have been some rule changes, or added rules, that I am not aware of, because of both centers. There may be other players who influenced rule changes, because of their dominance, but I am not aware of them. As far as I know Kareem and Wilt are the only two. Speaks volumes to me.
There are two things that you are ignoring. Coaching and teammates. How many rings did MJ win without Phil and Scottie? The first time Wilt had a great coach was the 63-64 season when they went from not being in the playoffs to losing in the finals. The first time he had a great coach and teammates was the 66-67 season when they set the record for wins in a season and were the only team not from Boston to win the title in the 60s. The next time he had a great coach and teammates was the 71-72 season when they broke the single season win record and set the record for consecutive wins. That team beat the defending champion Bucks and Kareem in six games. In game six he blocked Kareem six times and carried the Lakers to the finals where he was finals MVP.
Facts that Wilt Stans absolutely refuse to acknowledge (admitting that you're wrong in the face of irrefutable evidence is hard): - Wilt is unquestionably the undisputed most statpadding player of all time. Early in his career, he was the original black hole on offense, only looking to score the ball and totally prevent his teammates from getting involved at all. Why we're giving Wilt credit for solely focusing on individual stats when his teams during this time period had terrible offenses is beyond me. Later, his offenses were actually *good* when he started to pass more, but this wasn't because he became unselfish. Instead, he was looking to lead the league in assists, and therefore is the Ur-Example for "Rondo Passes" where you stagnate the offense by only passing when it's likely the pass will generate an assist for you. Even as he was exiting the league and his skillset diminished to simply a catch the ball in the post scorer, like Tyson Chandler, he remained fixated on personal stats, once refusing to shoot open shots for fear of getting in the way of his pursuit of the FG% title. - Wilt is perhaps the player whose playoff numbers dipped the most from the regular season than any other top player in NBA history. While statbook oglers love quoting his 50 PPG season, they seem reluctant to acknowledge how far his averages dipped in the playoffs, you know, the games that actually matter. One of the main reasons Wilt is claimed to be GOAT by these laymen is the sheer number of scoring records he has; the number of 50 point and 60 point games. Well, in the playoffs he has no 60 point games, only 4 50 point games, and none of them came in the finals (career high 45). He also had 5 games in the Finals where he scored in single digits, 3 of these games came against a Celtics team that barely won the series in 7 games. As all of these games were decided by single digits, it's very comprehensible to believe this underperformance was a direct cause for his team to lose the series. A lot of talk about how Wilt has the 4 highest single season PPGs in NBA history, but 0 talk about how Jordan averaged more points in 6 separate playoff series than Wilt's career high. - People never seem to realize how inflated Wilt's numbers are due to pace and minutes played. he played 46 minutes a game, which is nearly half a quarter more than most of the players he's compared to. And you can give me that baloney about how durable that makes him blah blah, but it's an irrefutable fact that regardless, more playing time equals more chances at racking up counting stats. What likely happened was that Wilt played significant minutes gassed, or in garbage time. So you're celebrating him get 30 points in the first 36 minutes or whatever, which would be normal, and then watching him get 4 points in the last quarter, to rack up his totals. If you compare to other players when balancing for these figures, his scoring averages look significantly less impressive. In Wilt's best scoring year, he racked up 41.5 points per 100 possessions. Not bad, but it's a mark that Jordan eclipsed 8 times in his career. It's additional context no one wants to think about. It's even more jarring in his later years when Wilt is barely putting up double figures, yet still playing 43 minutes a game. What halfway decent modern NBA player isn't going to put up 13 points on 43 minutes a night? - People love constantly bringing up imaginary block and steal numbers for Wilt to further accentuate how statistically dominant he was, yet all numbers supposedly supporting this are completely unofficial, and thus subject to human error and bias. Any of the attempts to go back and support this through film are on notoriously low sample sizes. But you know what unofficial stat these bozos have no interest in recording? Turnovers. Wilt was most likely one of the most turnover prone players in the entire league, as he held the ball for so long that he gave defenses a lot of time to adjust. It's also been said that Wilt got called for numerous travelling, 3 second violations, offensive fouls and goaltendings. Combined with the extremely high pace and his minutes, it's hard to imagine anyone else leading the league in turnovers every year. But while his fanboys are very interested in giving him credit for unverified block numbers despite the league not tracking them, they want to pretend as though turnovers don't exist. Most of these figures are corroborated by Thinking Basketball's ranking regarding Wilt: thinkingbasketball.net/2017/12/04/backpicks-goat-9-wilt-chamberlain/
Man all of said was a bunch of lies. Biggest stat padders are LeBron and Harden. If wilt was a stat padder every record would be way out of sight and he would never change his game constantly. Next you criticize wilt for only having 4x50 points playoff games. U do realize only MICHAEL JORDAN HAVE MORE THAN HIM. When he played no one had x2. No one until Jordan. So again. How that make him the biggest stat padder.
@BoosterGoldEarth6 you clearly started watching basketball in the past few years. It's been well documented Wilt was preoccupied with maintaining his stats, it's corroborated by his teammates, his opponents and even the man himself. I mean, it's just logically proven if you have even the slightest ability to think for yourself. Never fouling out of a game despite there being no team benefit for it? Obviously the man was chasing stats and you'd have to be a moron to actually believe differently. Go talk about basketball at the kiddie table, son. Adults are talking.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career (even tho he averaged atleast 20 PPG every regular season untill his last two seasons... with a 2-4 finals record two of those losses came from Knicks Willis reed outplaying wilt how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 11-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs for a couple years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo white Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's. Top Players: Best Elimination Games EG's Finals # times over 40 Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5 53/22/2 50/35/2 46/34/1 Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7 Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2 Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1 Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1 Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1 Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0 Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0 Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0 Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Bill Russell, Larry Bird (and other goats) all call Wilt Chamberlain the greatest basketball player that will ever live. Who has the hubris to think they have the credentials to argue with them? Wilt is GOAT. Case closed.
Wilt Chamberlain was the most Dominant singular Basketball player in NBA history. The Numbers speak for themselves. More records than anyone, before or since. Many that will Never be broken. Game rules changed simply because of his ability. And only played 13 years.
This video should be titled "4 Reasons Idiots Say That Wilt Chamberlain Is Not The GOAT." Wilt lead the NBA in Scoring, Rebounds, Blocks & Assists. When he lost to the Celtics, a stacked team with 5 Star players, he outplayed Russell most of the time. Before Wilt retired, he won his 2nd Championship for the Lakers outplaying the Bucks when Kareem was at he's prime...
I feel like a good comparison for him is that he is like harden and curry is like bill russel, harden is dominant in the regular season but always chokes and loses to curry like wilt lost to russel
Wilt is top 5 All time in my opinion, simply for being so dominant so that I can not ignore him. My list goes like this: 1.) Michael Jordan 2.) Kareem Abdul Jabbar 3.) Bill Russell 4.) Wilt Chamberlain 5.) Magic Johnson 6.) Kobe Bryant 7.) LeBron James Honestly I don't see the reason why are so many people pushing James in the GOAT discussion, he will never catch up to Michael Jordan.
Lebron didn't guard Legit 5s wgi were any good, Prime Dwight would've crucified him, Embiid will kill him even some 4s like Duncan no dice... He guarded the average 5s not the good ones.
Wilt was still definitely a top 5-7 player Alltime. If you don’t have him top 10, you legitimately don’t know basketball 2x Champion Finals MVP 4x MVP 7x Scoring Champion 11x Rebounding Champion 9x leader in FG% Rookie of the Year Alltime Leading Rebounder Assists leader Didn’t record blocks when Russell and Chamberlain played
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's. Top Players: Best Elimination Games EG's Finals # times over 40 Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5 53/22/2 50/35/2 46/34/1 Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7 Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2 Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1 Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1 Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1 Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0 Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0 Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0 Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
Wilt isn't considered for TRB% career wise because you need 400 games to qualify officially.. Based upon Wilt's last 3 season's, here is the list for career playoff TRB% leaders. D. Howard 21.74 Wilt 21.08 Rodman 20.50 D. Jordan 20.38 Remember, this was his last 3 seasons and considering his stamina, he would be rebounding leader in any era. Rodman is NOT a better rebounder than Wilt. Best Finals TRB%(at least 36 mpg) Walton(77): 37.7 mpg/19.0 rpg/24.7 trb% Wilt(70): 47.6 mpg/24.1 rpg/24.5 trb% M.Malone(83): 39.3 mpg/18.0 rpg/24.3 trb% Rodman(96): 37.5 mpg/14.7 rpg/24.1 trb% Wilt(64): 45.8 mpg/27.6 rpg/23.5 trb% Wilt(72): 47.2 mpg/23.2 rpg/23.4 trb% Russell(64): 42.3 mpg/25.2 rpg/23.1 trb% Russell(62): 48.3 mpg/27.0 rpg/22.3 trb% D.Howard(09): 42.6 mpg/15.2 rpg/22.6 trb% Russell(65): 44.2 mpg/25.0 rpg/22.4 trb% Anybody who thinks that Wilt wouldn't be the best rebounder in any era is smokin somethin. Not only are his trb% higher, he does it in more minutes.
MJ is the standard of being the GOAT . Wilt is Underachieve Wilt to Michael " They changed the rules ,so that I can't dominate . They changed the rules for you to dominate "
Actually he was considered the GOAT in the 60s, 70s, 80s. The 90s he began to drop off. Not winning a lot of rings was the main factor but he has a lot of records that can't be broken. In the 90s he was top 5 even in the 2000s. However, he still was dropping off. This is why I say LeBron James is the Wilt Chamberlain of our era. We all will put him up there but as time goes by he will drop off. LeBron is 3-6 Wilt is 2-4. LeBron got the stats so does Wilt. LeBron had issues with teammates so did Wilt. LeBron is know for his freakish athleticism so was Wilt and he even got to do other sports. I get get laughed off now but as soon as LeBron retires he will drop out of the top 5. ESPN is only making him that high because of revenue purposes.
Careful now the Lebron fans will have you for breakfast. I've said similar things about Lebron, everyone always throws the he better all round... Wilt is better all round than Bill Russel doesn't make him better.
@@divinemoyo1720 You're spot on. I think Bill Russell is what I see in Kawhi. He doesn't care about stats. He just wants to win. Recently, he's been getting mocked for AD having 12000+ points to Kawhi's 10000+ but we all know Kawhi is more accomplished. Giannis too has more points.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
John Havlicek comment about wilt protecting his not foul out record has been debunked and if you too young to seen wilt play defense, all you gotta do is research that not only was he a 10x shot block leader in playoffs and regular season, but he was able to defend on ball and off ball and was debatable with bull russell as the goat defender, has a higher steal career high than MJ and in his final years threw off Kareem so much in Kareem prime that he got frustrated and wilt led his team past them. Wilt actually played harder when he picked up his 5th foul on several occasions Here’s the proof that debunks Havlicek statement Some of Wilt Chamberlain’s steals per game data with additional steals and deflection and on ball off ball menace film breakdown. Defense is a criminally underrated aspect of his game 1 steal - 76ers vs Celtics '67 EDF Game 3 (2nd half) O steals - Lakers vs Knicks '70 Finals Game 7 1 steal - Lakers vs Bulls '71 WCS Game 6 3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 Reg season 1 steal - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 3 (part) Cont. 3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 4 3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 6 (part) 1 steal - Lakers vs Knicks '72 Finals Game 5 3 steals - Lakers vs Knicks '73 Finals Game 5 Total: 2.13 steals per game in 7.5 games 3.33 steals per game vs. Kareem in 3.0 games Keep in mind, a bulk of these games are from the later rounds of the playoffs. And you can breakdown the film to see how superior of a ball denying defender and on ball defender and post defender he was Wilt averaged over double digit blocks in regular season and close to double digit blocks in playoffs and all without fouling out. U can’t be that aggressive to get that many blocks and still be so worried about fouling out that u cost your team wins and championships. It’s just not possible. Wilt was just so good he did it all without fouling out. Deal with it.
averaging 24.5 rebounds, 22.5 points and 4.2 assists in the playoffs isn't choking and if they counted blocks most of his playoff games were triple doubles.
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
If Wilt played so terrible in the playoffs, then why are his stats better than Kareems? Does that make sense? Wilt has the highest rpg in the Finals and numerous playoff records. Anyway, here are their stats. Kareem vs Wilt Playoff Stats Stats TRB% Win Shares(%) WS48 # led PER # led DWS Kareem: 24.3/10.5/3.2 14.52 35.56/237(15.0%) .1929 7 1 Wilt: 22.5/24.5/4.2 21.08 31.46/160(19.7%) .1998 6 5 Elimination Games(EG) EG Finals EG Wilt(25) 31.1/25.7/3.5/56.2 ts% (5) 27.4/25.2/3.0/55.4 ts% Kareem(23) 25.3/12.2/3.8/55.2 ts% (8) 21.5/ 7.0/3.5/53.6 ts% Best Scoring Games(including EG's) Kareem Wilt 46/25/2 56/35/1(Best EG ever) 45/18/3 53/22/2(EG) 44/21/3 50/35/2(Celtics)(EG) 43/20/3 50/15/6 41/18/3 46/34/1(Celtics)(EG) 40/15/1 46/32/2 40/17/1 46/23/2 40/19/3 45/27/3(Best Finals EG ever) 40/7/7 42/37/5(Celtics) 38/14/3 42/29/2(Celtics) 15th best game 37/25/8(EG) Head to Head Series 1971: Wilt 22.0/18.8/2.0/48.9 ts% Kareem 25.0/17.2/4.2/51.0 ts% 1972: Wilt 10.8/19.3/3.3/ 47.2 ts% Kareem 33.7/17.5/4.8/ 48.2 ts% If you didn't know better, these were defensive battles. Both had ts% around 60% at this time. In fact, Kareem's 1971 and 1972 seasons were not only his peak, but probably one of the best if not the best seasons ever by any player. Both 1971 and 1972 are both Top 5 for FG add and Top 3 for TS add. So, Wilt pretty much played him even offensively but was superb defensively in 1971. Kareem had the upper hand in 1972, but the Lakers actually won the series. 1972 was Kareem's absolute best statistical season he ever had. FG add and TS add are (FG points added) and (TS points added). They take into account volume and efficiency. Probably the best indication of how good a season you've had. Top Seasons FG add and TS add FG add TS add Wilt(67) Kareem(1972) Wilt(62) Curry(16) Wilt(63) Kareem(71) Kareem(72) Wilt(67) Kareem(71) Barkley(88) Wilt(61) Wilt(62) Wilt(66) Dantley(84) Wilt(64) Durant(13) Wilt(68) Oscar(64) Curry(16) Durant(14)
Last but not least, my favorite thing to debunk, wilts era being worse or mattering this much to the point he can’t be the goat. The number one thing that shows this is nonsense is the fact that Kareem who is from an era that is slower paced, and higher field goal percentage and less attempts and bill Russell who started in an era even faster paced and worst field goal percentage than wilts era, are in the videos list of top 5 that he posted to try and count wilt out and these guys are ranked above several legends from every other era out there not just on this guy’s lists that he posted but countless lists around the basketball world. No consistency here On top of that, Wilt should have not led the league in blocked shots rebounding and field goal percentage at all as an old man riddled with injuries in his final years during an era where the pace slowed down and field goal percentage increased and attempts decreased however he still did which goes to show that these goats adapt to anything and it matters not what the pace and attempts and field goal percentage is cuz it’s never enough to make that big a difference and wilt shows us that by being just as dominant and winning a chip at that in the years that would suggest otherwise if those things did matter! If these things truly mattered Kareem would never be ranked ahead of Lebron or jordan or in the talks with them and neither would Russell. But of course you move the goal post for wilt chamberlain. So there u have it guys, this video should be taken down asap
Study, read, research well to be able to analyze well. Bad video. But if you need information to do it, you can tell me, I have evidence that it was as good as it was in the regular season in the postseason. Separate the statistics by team so you can understand a little better, and research the books of your time, Wilt was a great clutch. I repeat, if you need the correct information to be able to analyze their numbers and his career, you can ask me and I will help you, regards.
If you really would’ve done your homework, you would’ve mentioned that Rick Barry apologize for that comment he said about Wilt Chamberlain. He said he regretted saying that. What a hack job this piece is.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@@casualfandestroyer2503 That’s easy. Championships is a terrible way to determine who the best player of all time is. Teams win over individual. If championships measure who the greatest Player of all time is, Bill Russell would be number one with 11 championships and Sam Jones would be number two with 10 championships. John Havlicek and Tommy Heinsohn both have eight. So is that your top four? I don’t think so. And as for averaging 18 points, he was asked to block shots and rebound and let West and Goodrich do the scoring.
@@Nightwing6422489 Bill Russell also has 5 reg season mvps and the finals mvp award named after him also first black starting 5 and first black head coach who won 2 as a player- don’t be a casual
@@casualfandestroyer2503 When Wilt played the NBA was a fledgling League. There was no free agency, the draft was regional, and there was no salary cap. The Celtics were one of the few teams that are integrated. That’s why the St. Louis Hawks traded the right to Bill Russell to the Celtics for two white players and the Ice Capades. In the late 50s early 60s people in St. Louis weren’t gonna go to watch a black man play. Now on top of that, all the rule changes were made to hinder one person and one person‘s game only. And that was Wilt Chamberlain. So when you say he only won two championships, my response is mission accomplished. There was no way that they we’re going to let him to dominate the league. And you never address my first comment about Rick Barry retracting his statement about Wilt Chamberlain, That’s because you didn’t do your homework before you did this video. Don’t be a Casual
@@Nightwing6422489 Wilt chamberlain never lead his team in scoring in a finals series that they won , Bill Russell did it twice with 23 PPG both times in 7 game series where teams were evenly matched and russell was just the best player on the court not to mention him having 3 finals series where he averaged 20 PPG ( 2 with 22.9 PPG or more both of which over 53% FG ) also he had a finals series where he shot 70% from the floor on 18 PPG wilt was a choker in big moments and only averaged 18 PPG for his finals career while averaging 20 PPG during the regular season for every year of his career except his last two seasons, one player played worse in big moments the other was clutch that is why Bill Russell is the goat and wilt isn’t even top 10
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
It’s silly that wilt isn’t considered a top 3 player. He played the entire hall of fame Celtics. He only dropped on the scoring department because he said he will no longer score!
Blaming wilt for scoring so much is like blaming Walter Payton for caring the ball so much. Payton was the best and so was Wilt. Ball hog? He lead the league and in assists! Kobe Bryant passed the ball in high school once I heard. Holy shit! I think Wilt sleep with your mom or something and you are salty.
Wilt is better than Russell as an individual player. He is bigger, faster, stronger, a better scorer, passer, defender, he jumps higher, and is longer, he has more endurance. Russell simply had a much better team, and that includes the coach, and organization. Wilt is the best individual basketball player ever.
Jordan slightly rose in scoring 3 points and efficiency went down. Wilts efficiency and scoring went down but his rebounds went significantly up in playoffs. None of these stats are significant enough in decline or increase to say a guy is so much better or worse than they are in playoffs than regular season. Not only that, but even with less numbers it shows that his stats still are far more impressive in playoffs than jordan Lebron or anyone else in history. And it’s inconsistent to call Russell better and unselfish by not scoring and stat padding as much as wilt but once wilt gets a little less stats by condensing his game to help the team win, y’all call it coming up short despite winning 2 rings one of them beating the 8-0 bill Russell streak. Perfect example of hypocrisy and moving the goal post for anyone who is not wilt.
Couple things: Wilt played the bulk of his playoff games after he stopped being his team’s prolific scorer. Additionally, Rick Barry changed his opinion and even said he regretted it. He also said Wilt was the greatest center ever and he one chose him over ANYONE if he were starting a team. This video is Borderline propaganda bro m.ruclips.net/video/MSTt_TxoFVo/видео.html
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107. Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring. In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird). In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was 16-2 in elimination games 10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you. Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
A lot of this lacks context and is incredibly misleading. The rules were different? They were different for everyone else in that era too, I don't see any other 100 point games. You also don't mention the fact that especially during his early career black athletes were treated differently, thats one of the reasons fans tended to ridicule his game so hard. Someone else mentioned why his playoff stats are so skewed, because most of his appearances came extremely late in his career when he was no longer a scorer. Bad video.
Lots of great basketball players of the 1960s like Jerry west, Oscar Robertson, elgin baylor, bill Russell, bob petitt, wilt, John havlicek, Sam Jones, etc, etc
"Wilt was so aware of his strength and was so strong that he would sometimes go up weak on a dunk or do a lay up because Wilt was actually worried that he would injure the defender or break the defenders arm or wrist had he used his full strength."
~Jerry West
"The best thing that happened to the NBA is that God made Wilt a nice person... he could all have killed us with his left hand."
~ Jack McMahon
The NBA today is lucky he came along earlier.
If he was a brute like prime Shaq, poor Russell. All those 1-2 point wins... bye bye.
@@felipefasanella7764 one of wilt weaknesses he and bill Russell were very close friends, it affected him in big playoff losses to Bill Russell , young Bill Russell greatest shot blocker and clutch time rebounder no problem with Shaquille o'neal
Well said
@@lloydkline6946 wilt averaged 9 blocks and still was dominant I'm the playoffs wdym and if we talking about playoff we might as well say rodman
Damn right.
I thought Wilt Chamberlain is considered as one of the best defenders ever. A player that era said that he blocked 26 shots in a game and he was also able to block Magic every time in a 1 on 1
yeah. Really didnt get that point.
Raina sinha In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high fscoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was trrrruya team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 i mean ur not wrong but no ones gonna listen to u cause people only read regular season stats the only true way to see a goat is true stats performance(watching them) accolades longevity and winning wilt only has stats tbh
and micheal jordan never ever won against lary so you see? Winning is a team achievement
@@erfan3944 ur not wrong ab winning is a team accomplishment but jesus did u just compare a guy who avg 29.9 pts a game going to 45 a game 7 n 7 with over 50% shooting with no help as a rookie and soph in the playoffs to a man who avg 50 a game and disappeared for less than 30 in the playoffs each time yikes u got me on that one bro
He's the GOAT for that 20,000 women claim.
the short ones woulda said “he’s not 8 feet but ok”
I don’t really think he did it 20k women
it might be exaggerated
Only 4 reasons? I could name more reasons why he IS THE G.O.A.T.
Exactly! He holds over 70 unbreakable reasons why he is the G.O.A.T.
Your arguments lack context and rely on perception as opposed to documented fact. Where to begin? Well, there is no salient argument against Chamberlain being the most dominant player in NBA history, so his uniformed critics have had to focus on placing negative labels on Wilt (e.g., selfish, took too many shots, passed up shots, not a clutch player) in order to steer the conversation away from the documented record. Chamberlain is the ONLY player in NBA history to have a TPA or Total Production Average (e.g., combined points/rebounds/assists per game) of 50 or more in BOTH the regular AND post-season. Yup, Wilt has the highest TPA (e.g., 51.2) in playoff/post-season history. This FACT alone demonstrates the absurdity of the argument that Chamberlain was not a dominant figure in the playoffs. In his first 7 seasons, Wilt led his Warrior/Sixer teams to the playoffs 6 times, but he alone couldn't overcome a loaded Celtics squad. It's important to note that Wilt carried his teams to a Game 7 against the heavily favored Celtics in the 1962 and 1965 Eastern Conference Finals. In the 1965 ECF, Wilt became the ONLY player in NBA history to post a 30-30 (e.g., averaging 30 points/30 rebounds) in a playoff series. Chamberlain dominated Russell to the tune of 30.1 points and 31.4 rebounds, but Wilt was still without a ring. In that time span, Wilt played in 52 playoff games and averaged 32.8 points, 26.6 rebounds, and he shot .505 from the field. No player in NBA history had a post-season averaging 32 points and 26 rebounds, yet Wilt averaged that over the course of SIX post-seasons. The following year brought a new HOF coach and the "new" Wilt Chamberlain who placed more emphasis on defense/passing than he did during his prior 7 years as a dominant scorer. The 1966-1967 Sixers were 46-4 in their first 50 games, they set a then NBA record 68-13, Wilt was the league MVP, and he posted maybe the best playoff run in NBA history. In 15 playoff games, Wilt averaged 21.7 points, 29.1 rebounds, 9.0 assists, and 9.2 blocked shots. In 1971-1972, the Lakers won a record 33 consecutive games, they set a then NBA record 69-13, and the 35 year old Chamberlain was the Finals MVP averaging 19.4 points, 23.3 rebounds, and 7.8 blocked shots. A strong argument could be made that Wilt's 2 title teams were 2 of the Top 5 NBA teams of all-time. Your argument that Wilt didn't play well in Game 7's and that the 8 point difference in his regular/playoff averages "proves" he was not a clutch is classic weak sauce. In Game 7's, Wilt averaged 24.4 points, 26.3 rebounds, and he shot .626 from the floor. Yup, .626 from the floor. Wilt also played in 160 playoff games, but only 52 of them were when Wilt was a dominant scorer, ergo, the 8 point difference in scoring averages. If one relies on documented fact, Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT. If one relies on perception, distortion, half-truths, and protecting one's own pet cat (e.g., Jordan, James, etc.), then the Big Dipper is a 2nd tier GOAT candidate.
Yup. The facts are inconvenient, so they pile it high and deep. This flurry of anti-Wilt crap is just cashing in on the Last Dance, the ...authorized... *cough, cough* documentary on Jordan by Jordan, as told by the unchallenged opinion of a gambling addicted sociopath...who is also one of the 5 greatest to ever do it.
There was a reason wilt carried his team, he was a ball hog. When he decided to pass his teammates weren’t warmed up and don’t say that his teams weren’t stacked bc he had multiple hall of famers of his team. Wilt when he decided to decrease he scoring to only 25 ppg he won the championship for the sixers. I didn’t read all of it but wilt only carried his team bc of him refusing to pass.
U should read it
EB: Your knowledge of Chamberlain's history is slim and Slim left town. In his first 3 seasons in the league, Wilt played with 2 HOF's, but Tom Gola was not a scorer and Paul Arizin was past his prime as evidenced by the FACT that he retired after the 1961-1962 season. Prior to Wilt's historic 1961-1962 season, new coach Frank McGuire asked Chamberlain to score more and despite averaging 28 shots a game, Wilt shot over 50 percent from the floor in a league where the average shooting percentage was in the low 40's. In order for the Warriors to have a chance to compete with the Celtics during that time period, Wilt had to be THE dominant score in the league.
@@EB-md5hz Yes he was a for the most part a ball hog the reason why him and bill Russell had so many Hall of famers is because there were less teams meaning only the best of the best players. Like imagine if all 20 all-stars are on 9 teams plus other great players instead of 30.
One thing to clear up. U said Wilt never Won a title in HS. Overbrook won x2 City League Titles out of 3 tries in his career.. The City League title is what they competed in due to Piaa not allowing Philly schools to compete until later in the century.
Just to clear up that misnomer.
1..Bill Russell
2.. Bill Russell and the Celtics
3.. Bill Russell
4.. Bill Russell and the Celtics
Also some player of that Era has said in another video( Cuz the RUclipsr mentioned a quote from someone's book, so I will too ) . That Wilt has 55 rebounds in a game against Russel
It’s was too easy too get rebounds back then and also the reason he got so many points was cuz they were always in fast pace never taking there time to shoot they jus run up and dunk or layup there wasn’t any 3pm percentage for them of course he was gonna get that many rebounds their games back then we fast paced
@@zay7576 Another false narrative about Wilt Era. The era was a direct result of teams throwing outlet passes on defensive rebounds to push the fast break. Many teams based the offense on fast breaks. Not because players shot was broke or some other non sense
@@Cafe-pu9lw he shot 17-42 and lost the game dude
@@coachwane If teams were pushing the fast break wouldn't you think there would be more layups, thus higher shooting percentages? And look at the shooting percentage of the poster child of the fast break back then Bob Cousy. I don't think he ever shot over 40% during a season. One of the big problems is the lack of full game footage from that era where people could judge for themselves. Being generous memories fade and people tend to exaggerate the era they're most fond of. To be honest, people just flat lie. Fans and the media. I guarantee, you could take a newspaper account of a game from the 60's and if you were able to actually watch a recording of it, you would think you were watching a different game. Thankfully you can't get away with that now since EVERYTHING is recorded and documented. 30 years from now if a parent tried to embellish the greatness of Lebron their kid will easily be able to pull up an archive of any game and say "dad, this isn't exactly the way you described it." Unfortunately we can't do that today with all of the Wilt tall tales and fish stories that circulate and get more exaggerated as time goes. You even see that a bit with Jordan. You would think the guy never had a bad game in the playoffs or ever missed a clutch shot.
yall talking about how wilt lost but he turned a 13-55 team into a record at the time 69-13 beating the most dominant team in basketball history with 11 hofers when wilt only has 2 other than him
When Rick Barry was asked who his starting 5 would be, he picked Wilt at center and Russell at power forward and no mention of Kareem. That speaks huge volumes. You probably should have mentioned that the Celtics were the main reason Wilt didn't win more championships. Just because Wilt didn't have as many rings or a team that was stacked like the Celtics does not take away from how great a player he was. At times your video sounded like you were describing LeBron, lol, he could easily fit into these reasons for not being g.o.a.t. If you had the chance to watch Wilt play, it looked like he was holding back, like he was taking it easy on players, it looked like he could be the leading scorer, rebounder, or leader in assists whenever he wanted. Kind of like what I see from Jokic today. But the g.o.a.t. is a tough argument, because I think it should be based on position not overall. And then you have the whole era argument, different era, different rules, more physical play and now a whole lot softer. To say Jordan is the greatest 2 guard makes sense but to say he is the best overall compared to anyone at any position, not so sure. Could he play better at point guard than Magic, would he be better than Wilt at center, and of course, vice versa. Like in football, would you say Tom Brady is the greatest football player ever or would it make better sense to say he is possibly the best quarterback ever.
All defensive teams didn’t come till 69 nd wilt retired in 73
Nba should had a all nba third team and a all rookie third team
@@justabballnigga9480 they do have all nba 3rd team 🤐 lol.. no need for 3 rookie teams either.. should adjust positions on all nba teams & add 3rd all defense team tho
Bill Russell and wilt greatest shot blocker ever
@@PowderHeight they didn't back then🤐
Sportswriter Leonard Koppett said it best.. I call Wilt Chamberlain a very honest workman. By that, I mean he always did what his employer wanted. No star athlete has ever given his boss more for the money than Wilt did during career. Eddie Gottlieb wanted Wilt to score like no man ever had, so Wilt did. Alex Hannum and some of his other coaches wanted him to pass and play defense, so he did that and he played 48 minutes a night. Those who criticized Wilt--first for his scoring, then for not scoring more--really should have criticized his employer.
Wilt was the best scorer on and off the court 😂
You already know
60s
20,000
I want you guys to read a quote from Tommy Heinsohn:
"At 7’ 2” tall and weighing at least 250 pounds, Wilt may have been the strongest man in the league as a rookie. Despite his size, Wilt’s introduction to physical aggression in the NBA was far worse than what confronted Bill Russell. Wilt was grabbed, held, jostled, and manhandled worse than any player in the short history of the league.
It went beyond rookie hazing: it was a deliberate attempt to stop the taller, stronger player by frustration and intimidation. Wilt was constantly double- and triple-teamed, hacked, and whacked and smacked as opponents tried to knock the ball out of his hands. The tactics were all the more effective because of Wilt’s notoriously poor foul shooting. Even the referees contributed to the harassment, letting opposing players get away with often egregious fouls, but calling Wilt for the slightest infraction."
QUESTION(S): When was LeBron James, Bill Russell, or Magic Johnson EGREGIOUSLY fouled? Other than Russell, have any of the top five been called the "N" word during games? When did any of the so-called top five get their front teeth knocked out, which by the way, eventually led to Wilt's death? Analytics does not consider this. I didn't include Jordan because Detroit punished him. I didn't include Kareem because I personally saw Wes Unseld foul him and I thought he'd punch Unseld.
Thanks for remembering Wilt, but in the postseason he only played 36 games in warriors, instead he played 80 with lakers, a team that he no longer scored with. That's just one reason why the playoff stats aren't looking good. But nevertheless they were great. I tell you, in 1972 he averaged only 14 points and 19 rebounds in the regular season, but in the final he averaged 19 points and 23 rebounds, and in the final match he scored 24 points and collected 29 rebounds. He averaged over 31 points in all of his elimination games (including games when he was no longer scoring) being the only one to score 50 or more in at least one of them, feat he accomplished 3 times, winning all of them, including 50 against Russell and the Boston Celtics. And as there is much more that I can talk to you, and above all check.
I agree Warriors he average 34.7 PpG playoffs which is the highest among any other franchise leader in playoffs ppg. He average 23.7 PPG for the 76ers on the playoffs. And 14.7 For the Lakers in the playoffs. Ppl never put things into context
@@coachwane In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@Hate Myself ” We knew that as long as we had Russell, we could get it done against the lakers wilt chamberlain or anyone else: we had seen Russell do numbers on wilt before, we never feared him because we knew in a big game down the stretch, Russell would own Wilt. -Larry Siegfried
@@casualfandestroyer2503 His 100 point game was on 60+ shots. Horrible, horrible, horrible basketball.
This entire video is Skip Bayless level clowning.
The playoff points numbers are highly skewed because Wilt played most of his playoff games after the period when he stopped volume scoring of his own volition. Wilt modeled his game after Bill Russel (and won more) in the later stages of his career, which also undercuts the "selfishness" argument. Wilt was undoubtedly stat-conscious to excess, but it's also true that in his volume scoring years, the Warriors would not win unless Wilt scored a ton of points.
Wilt Chamberlain was a defensive monster, who unquestionably would have led the league in blocked shots had they kept those stats. In one game, the announcers kept a tally of blocked shots. We have the audio. They counted 27. To call Wilt's defense "Just ok" constitutes astonishing, surreal indifference to reality.
Opinions are like Rick Barry. Everybody's got one. Walt Clyde Frazier, Nate Thurmond, Kareem, and countless others of that era call Wilt Chamberlain the greatest who ever did it.
To say that Wilt played on great teams just like Bill Russel is just disingenuous. Wilt's game was more dependent on personal athleticism than any other, and when Wilt was in his athletic prime, he was on otherwise terrible Warrior teams. He took the vastly superior Celtics' dynasty to seven games 4 times, and lost by a combined 9 points, again with vastly inferior surrounding personnel; further, he only played for great coaches for three of his seasons. Russel consistently played for great teams and great coaches.
To blame Wilt being traded 3 times on his own personal unlikability is putting the cart before the horse. Russel was a sullen, unpleasant character in his own right, who never signed autographs and was hostile to the media and the Celtic fan base (often with good reason, if you know anything about the Boston media and fan base in the '60s). Russel didn't win because he never moved. He never moved because he came in to the perfect situation for him and stayed there. Wilt was stuck in his early years on terrible teams. With the Sixers, he played on the only team that ever interrupted the Celtics' dynasty.
To say that teams didn't play defense in Wilt's era is obnoxiously wrong. Bill Russel's Celtics were merely above average offensively. They won because relative to pace, they had the single greatest 10-year 5-year, and 2-year defensive runs in the history of the league. Wilt also played against Willis Reed's Knicks, also a defensive dynasty.
Seriously. If you're going to continue with these video segments, you might want to take your analysis beyond "OMG Michael Jordan's got 6 Rings he's the GOAT maaaan" levels, because you're not going to raid the fan bases of the likes of Bill Simmons and Skip Bayless. This was an embarrassing effort.
thx sir, unfortunately, those millenials will not listen.
Did you just call Bill for hating on a racist media? You’ve discredited everything written here
Why is it that every time someone says "the playoff points numbers are highly skewed because Wilt played most of his playoff games after the period when he stopped volume scoring of his own volition" they never tell you that if you go season by season every year Wilt's playoff scoring took at dip from his regular season scoring? EVERY year. For example, the year he averaged 50 ppg his scoring dropped to 35 ppg in the playoffs.
@@lavzorvic4129 he wouldn't be anything special in this era. Just cause random up here said something now you think your views are factually validated hahahaha. Pathetic.
This is an absolutely dogshit defense. "He stopped scoring because he stopped trying" yet another admission that he stat padded in the regular season
What these braindead takes never seem to consider is that despite all the 50 and 60 point games Wilt had in the regular season, he had 0 60 point games in the playoffs, just 4 50 point games and his career high in the finals was 45. That's throughout his career, not just after he stopped stat padding points and started stat padding assists. Boomers are so allergic to facts
This is Kareem's open letter to Wilt Chamberlain in 1990"
It would seem that someone who achieved as much as you did would be satisfied with his career. After all, some of the things you did in your time were quite admirable and have given us an enduring set of records for the books. So why all the jealousy and envy?
In trying to figure this out, I started to look for what you would be jealous of, and that’s when the picture started to become clear. Many remember how frustrated you were when your team couldn’t win the NCAA tournament. Your talent and abilities were so great that everyone assumed the NCAA was all yours. But after a terrific triple-overtime game, Kansas lost. You complained about the officiating, your teammates and other things, and then quit, leaving college early to tour with the Globetrotters. That seemed to set a pattern for you. After any tough test in which you didn’t do well, you blamed those around you and quit.
In professional basketball, Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics gave you a yearly lesson in real competitive competence and teamwork. All you could say was that your teammates stunk and that you had done all you could, and besides, the refs never gave you a break. Poor Wilt.
In 1967, your team finally broke through. That 76er team established records that are still standing today. But the following year, the Sixers lost and, predictable as ever, you quit. You came out to L.A. and got with a dream team. The only lack that team had was leadership at the center position. Bill and the Celts took one from you in ’69, and the Knicks followed suit in ’70. People are still trying to figure out where you disappeared to in that series. True to form, after the Knicks beat the Lakers in the world championship in 1973, you quit and haven’t been seen on the court since.
Of course, you came out every so often to take a cheap shot at me. During the sixth game of the world championship series in 1988, you stated, “Kareem should have retired five years ago.” I can now see why you said that. If I had quit at the time you suggested, it would have been right after a disappointing loss to the 76ers. And it would have been typical of one of your retreats.
But after that loss, I decided that I had more to give. I believed in myself and in the Lakers and stuck with it. We went on to win three out of four world championships between ’85 and ’88. The two teams you played on that won world championships, in ’67 and ’72, never repeated. They never showed the consistency that the Lakers of the ‘80s have shown. And you didn’t want me to be part of that.
Given your jealousy, I can understand that. So, now that I have left, one thing will be part of my legacy: People will remember that I worked with my teammates and helped us win. You will be remembered as a whining crybaby and a quitter, stats and all.
Is this kareems letter to wilt?
@@joshuasundar3566 Yes. I copied and pasted. The biggest mic drop in NBA history. #1 reason why Wilt is left off of many things. Kareem laid it all out!
Give Wilt another top 5 player for most of his career and see what happens. How many did he win without Magic?
@@DeltaLou Guess the 8 years he lost without Magic don't count. Everyone can write their own story. Without another TOP 5 player, Kareem would have literally 1 chip. And that is it.
@@felipefasanella7764 Fair enough. Kareem was the most dominant player of the 70s though.
Wilt is underrated and if we look at him as an overall player he can be considered the greatest player. The athleticism he had was unmatched and his stats are insane
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
fan LOL
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
he's overrated
@@casualfandestroyer2503 if Wilt and Russell were switched teams Wilt Chamberlain would have the most titles in NBA history. He is better than Russell as an individual player. The Celtics were a better team. The Knicks were a better team, Wilt was better than Willis Reed and Bill Russell as an individual player. He is bigger, faster, stronger, a better scorer, passer, defender, he jumps higher, and is longer, he has more endurance. Wilt is the best individual basketball player ever, Russell simply had a much better team, and that includes the coach, and organization.
So much misunderstanding and misleading stuff here.
Please read my book: Wilt the Winner: Setting the Records Straight. I'm 68. Saw him play.
Wilt - 2 rings in 14 years. Lebron - 3 rings in 17 years. Kareem - 3 rings in his first 15 years (before Magic). What's the big difference? Wilt was as clutch as a big man could be, but the Celtics were dominant over everybody in his first 10 years. That's why he only won 2 - as many or more than any other non-Celtic in his era.
The drop-off in his playoff averages is because most of his playoff games were late in his career, by which time he had voluntarily reduced his scoring. Also, almost all big men see lower numbers in the playoffs because defenses tighten and sag and the ball stays outside.
Elimination game records are mostly about the Celtics. Close games, and Wilt always excelled, but his teammates often "wilted."
About Barry, he apologized and retracted that statement from his book (see video on RUclips) and said he thinks it's ludicrous to say Jordan was better than Wilt. Look it up.
Selfish? What other superstar gave up more than 50% of his scoring to help the team? What other center led the league in assists, as requested by his coach - not just for his ego.
Traded twice - once because his team couldn't afford him (SF) and once because he asked for it (to LA).
Lakers didn't want Wilt because he was such a media circus and their scoring would drop, but they praised him to the sky when he won them a title in 72. Lots of teams would have passed on Jordan for similar reasons.
Not dominant on defense? Arguably the greatest rebounder and undoubtedly the greatest shot blocker in NBA history? Really? He intimidated the entire league and held his own against Abdul-Jabbar, though 11 years older. But you have to see defense to evaluate it because of few stats, especially back then. I saw. He certainly led the league in blocks every year and probably steals for his position, too, stats or no.
Fouling out? I saw him play his heart out with 5 fouls in key games, but Wilt meant so much to his teams that he played extra smart when it mattered. That's sour grapes from Havlicek. Wilt was told early by a coach that he couldn't help on the bench - he took it to heart. Wilt always played under control, which was one of his greatest strengths. He played long minutes and made every one count.
Era? There were less than 100 NBA players when Wilt started. Right, they weren't paid well except for a few - so they had to REALLY love the game. That's why they played - not just for mega-millions. They were genuine ballers. BTW, the average center was TALLER in Wilt's day than today and the average player just about the same. If they look clunky, it's because they couldn't palm the ball like today and they faced hand checking, which made graceful offensive moves very tough.
Absurd to say teams didn't play defense in Wilt's day - it was MUCH tougher than today. High scoring doesn't mean no defense; it means faster pace, which means great conditioning - especially for Wilt who played almost the entire game for his entire career. If you want to consider defense, look at shooting percentages. MUCH lower in Wilt's day, though he was the first ever to shoot 50%, 60%, and then 70%.
The real reason why Wilt isn't often considered the GOAT is hardly anybody expressing their opinions today ever saw more than a tiny fraction of his games, including very few complete games. And they listen to haters, of which there have always been a ton. Bill Simmons, who was toddler when Wilt retired, has a lot to do with it. His book is bogus when it comes to Wilt Chamberlain.
I won't call Wilt the GOAT. Don't believe in the concept. But I never saw a better player.
The best writing I've ever seen over wilt, especially the ending. Congratulations.
It’s good to hear from someone Who actually Watched him play. Same situation happening to MJ, the younger generations don’t watch MJ play, when He was The King. Btw, thank you for this writing.
Boston celtics 1960s team had a basketball of fame player at every position, they wilt very close friendship with Bill Russell hurt his play against bill Russell especially in 1969 nba championship series, young wilt would have tear up very old bill Russell, when wilt played lew alcindor, wilt was at least five years past his prime , old and knee surgery knees wilt block bunch of jabbar skyhook shots and outscore jabbar few times
The RUclipsr kid gets a C for his Research.
Don't dishonor someone just to make a Video
No, wilt didn't show up in game 7s. Unlike bill, bill is 10-0 in game 7s unlike wilt where he choked in 1969 against old russell
Yes Rick Barry said this about Wilt back then, but he also later said he regretted saying that and genuinely thinks he is his first pick for a team out of any player in history.
/watch?v=MSTt_TxoFVo
He played from 1966-1980, against a prime Wilt and a prime Kareem, being a hall of famer with 25 ppg for his career, so i'd say he knows a thing or two (especially more in retrospect).
In the Jordan and Wilt GOAT debate he said, its not possible to say who the greatest player ever is due to the differences of roles in the positions.
If he was to choose a player to build a team around he said it would be Wilt Chamberlain, cause "you win the game with big men and Wilt is the greatest big man in the history of the game".
Well, Barry's quote at that time said that he was willing to publicly say what other players felt. So perhaps HE regretted saying it and that HE was wrong, but what about the others in the league who Barry claims agreed with that statement at the time that he said it?
Never heard anyone else say what Barry said.
"I look back and know that my last seven years in the league versus my first seven years were a joke in terms of scoring," he told the Philadelphia Daily News. "I stopped shooting -- coaches asked me to do that, and I did. I wonder sometimes if that was a mistake." Wilt Chamberlain
Yes Wilt that was a huge mistake
@@coachwane no it wasn't unless he wanted to end his career without a nba title
@@FuShengAlex The way it was handled was a mistake. He was almost handcuffed from scoring, except for offensive rebound put backs. What team can't use a great, unstoppable, inside scorer, when the outside game has become nonexistent, during a critical stretch of a game? In some of these videos, Wilt passes out of the post, and nobody can hit a shot. I'm saying, adjust the scoring to meet the team's needs.
@@wmden1
Yes and Wilt didn't help offset that with his historically bad FT shooting in the playoffs either.
No matter how anyone tries to spin it....the best teams Wilt ever played for record and title wise were when he wasn't a high volume go to scorer like other earlier years in his career.
Wilt chamberlain defensive impact in the playoffs is severely underrated.
Wilt's post-season FG% allowed vs centers
59-60:
Kerr regular season FG% against the league: .39.2
Kerr against Wilt in the playoffs: .29.4
Dierking regular season FG%: .36.5
Dierking vs Wilt in the post-season: .33.3
Russell regular season: .46.7
Russell vs. Wilt in the post-season: .44.6
60-61:
Kerr regular season: .39.7
Kerr vs Wilt: .32.1
Halbrook regular season: .33.5
Halbrook vs Wilt: .38.7
61-62:
Kerr regular season: .44.3
Kerr vs. Wilt: .37.6
Russell regular season: .45.7
Russell vs Wilt: .39.9
63-64:
Beaty regular season: .44.4
Beaty vs. Wilt: .52.0
Russell regular season: .43.3
Russell vs. Wilt: .38.6
64-65:
Embry regular season: .45.6
Embry vs Wilt .43.8
Russell regular season: .43.8
Russell vs. Wilt 44.6
65-66:
Russell regular season: .41.5
Russell vs. Wilt: .42.4
66-67:
Dierking regular season: .39.9
Dierking vs Wilt: .42.7
Russell regular season: .45.4
Russell vs. Wilt: .35.8
Thurmond regular season: .43.7
Thurmond vs. Wilt: .34.3
67-68:
Bellamy regular season: .54.1
Bellamy vs. Wilt: .42.1
Russell regular season: .42.5
Russell vs. Wilt: .44.0
68-69:
Thurmond regular season: .41.0
Thurmond vs Wilt: .39.2
Beaty regular season: .47.0
Beaty vs. Wilt: .38.3
Russell regular season: .43.3
Russell vs. Wilt: .39.7
69-70:
Walk regular season: .47.0
Walk vs Wilt: .39.5
Fox regular season: .52.4
Fox vs Wilt: .36.2
Bellamy regular season: .52.3
Bellamy vs Wilt: .45.6
Reed regular season: .50.7
Reed vs Wilt: .48.3
70-71:
Boerwinkle regular season: .48.5
Boerwinkle vs Wilt: .46.3
Fox regular season: .45.8
Fox vs Wilt: .43.4
Kareem regular season: .57.7
Kareem vs Wilt: .48.1
71-72:
Ray regular season: .49.9
Ray vs Wilt: .52.9
Kareem regular season: .57.4
Kareem vs Wilt: .45.7
Lucas regular season: .51.2
Lucas vs Wilt: .50.0
72-73:
Awtry regular season: .48.0
Awtry vs Wilt: .54.2
Thurmond regular season: .44.6
Thurmond vs Wilt: .37.3
Reed regular season: .47.4
Reed vs Wilt: .49.3
During Wilt's last 7 seasons after his scoring seasons, he would lead all players in playoff defensive win shares 5 out of 7 times during his non-scoring title seasons
More proof that debunks Havlicek and anyone else’s notion that wilt is not goat on both ends of the floor and too worried about not fouling out and not a goat defender
Wilt did average 50 ppg one year...on an absolutely nonsensical 40 shots. His playoff average was closer to 24 ppg. Why? Because 40 shots per game is all kinds of bad basketball. His statistics have to be taken with a huuuuuge grain of salt.
@@rexperkins2499 no they don’t. Which is why this load of information has nothing to do with him averaging 50 ppg which was the least impressive feat of his entire career. This is also a most horrible take. 50 points and 25 rebounds is 50 points and 25 rebounds and the field goal percentage determines the efficiency. Not some magical head cannon that reduces your 50 points in one single regular season to 24 in the postseason for an entire career just cuz u took 40 shots in one single season and automatically means that season was bad especially if it’s instructed by the team coach and helped y’all get somewhere in the postseason lmaooo.
But again, this comment has nothing to do with 50ppg which was wilts least impressive feat as the goat of nba basketball. Y’all truly need to stop buggin
We can't even lie though, with good coaching, Wilt would dominate any era. He had skill, and he didn't even need that with his out of this world athleticism...
For real
Idk. Nowadays, if you can't shoot a 3, you're trash. I think even as dominant as shaq, dwight, and wilt were, I don't think they would have the same success in today's 3pt game.
They'd get their stats under the hoop sure. But they'd clog up the paint so much that it'd affect their team success.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@@casualfandestroyer2503 Your trolling on all of wilt videos are Laughable.
Wilt Chamberlain was a winner.
Led the greatest x2 teams ever assembled to a championship over all time great teams.
Wilt chamberlain 1967 FINALS
Game 6 Close Out 24 Points/61%
Defeated x8 prime HOF in Boston
Defeated x6 HOF in NY
11 for 13 Career Game Winning Shots with x4 coming in the playoffs
x3 Of those finals occurred after he rupturing his patella.
Led his team to the finals x5 different occasions in 5 different Roles.
The Basketball World created x7 Rules changes to minimize Wilt greatness.
Held over 200 Records
Saved the nba from going bankrupt.
Never to mention Wilt often Gave Russell that work in the playoffs
Dude Shot 87% in GAme 7 1969
For 18 Points. Or 29-27 average for 56% on Russell in 64 finals. Or the He put up 1967 Finals on Nate Thurmond
17.7 points 28 Boards- 7 Assists.
10 Blocks - 4 Steals average on 56%
Not to mention Game 1 and Game 2
He put up x2 Quadruple Doubles
13ppg-35Rebs-10Asst-11Blcks-6 steals. Or the last 4 Games he average 20Points-25 Rebs-9Blocks
5 Assists and 2 Steals. Not to mention his close out 24-23 on 61% performance to win his first title.
Accomplish all of this while often being Swarmed by as many as 4 Defenders including playoffs. Your boy never faced Double Teams ever(Russell still a 🐐). Who did Russell ever face hof worthy in the finals at center. Leroy Ellis, Larry Foust a nice players but he was never a top5 center in the 1960s. When he face HOF competition at the center position in the finals like He Did With Wilt Chamberlain or The Hawks with Ed Macauley and Bob petit he shot under 40% with 15 or less points multiple times 58&57, 69 For example. Never shot over 50% ever when facing HOf Competition at the center position in the finals.
Wilt chamberlain never not face hof big man in the finals ever or never shot poor finals. I'm gonna keep this ether up when I see your blasphemous on the wilt
@@MrE_ wilt was a good shooter
Pure cringe. "Wilt was all about Wilt". There are lots of arguments that completely debunked this. But whatever. Just another one of thousands of ctrl C + contrl V videos about Wilt.
Imagine calling LeBron a better defender than Wilt im dead 😭
Bill Russell and wilt were greatest shot blockers ever
Wilt was a really good defender he must just hate wilt
4 finals MVP. Wilt cant carry shit.
Casey is a causal
Very ignorant video, please change it.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's.
Top Players: Best Elimination Games
EG's Finals # times over 40
Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5
53/22/2
50/35/2
46/34/1
Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7
Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2
Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1
Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1
Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1
Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0
Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0
Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0
Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
Wilt had more rebounds, blocks and assists in that game and had a better FG%. For the series Wilt averaged 35.0 points, 26.9 rebounds and 2.9 assists with a FG% of .467 to Sam Jones 19.0 points, 8.1 rebounds 3.3 assists with a FG% of .444. Plus the Celtics always double teamed wilt in the playoffs.
Wilt has the stats, the rings, the MVPs, the fmvps. Yea he wasn’t a team player but I think he is top 5 at least a top 7
LOL
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@BlackQuad they also played thru blatant racism much much worse than what we see today, Bill Russell also played for the first all black starting 5 and first black head coach ever who won 2 chips as a player-coach
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 You can't win if your team isn't good. Jordan didn't win anything in the 80s.
I don’t think kawhi Leonard has fouled out before because he’s that good
Young man, you just don't know. Due to the lack of video of yester-year games, you, the young guy, don't know. First off, yes, Wilt had issues, especially with the press who highly scrutinized him. During an explosive racial-tension era, he was a black man that was dogged mightily by the press, and that is the information you youngsters are relying on, biased press. Many white people hated Wilt just for who he was before playing a game. Big, outer-worldly, supremely athletic, fast, and perhaps the strongest NBA player ever, but he could never get it right with the press. "Wilt only cares about scoring." "He's selfish." So he led the league in assists.
At the beginning of his career, he was demanded to score often by the Philly owner as a business decision; most people don't know about that. However, he stopped scoring after six years, mainly due to his 67 coach demanding that he focus on defense and boards, which he did and excelled (top rebounder and best shot-blocker ever -- you were off regarding his defense, way wrong). We know that team is deemed one of the best ever.
When Wilt had good coaches, he won twice. The rest of the time, he had bad coaches and not the greatest of teams, as Russel, MJ, Shaq/Kobe, Duncan, etc., had. Wilt was like LBJ, which is why LBJ had to create super teams to win championships. Wilt could not do that back then.
And using Rick Barry as a source, if you knew him back then, that was a reach. He was a cocky young man who thought too much of himself back then. That is like the pot calling the kettle black.
With all that said, yes, Wilt had personal issues, but who didn't. But it can be said that once he first came into the NBA, the deck was stacked against him. They changed the rules to make the game harder for him because he was dominating too much, yet the same NBA changed the rules to make it easier for MJ. Wilt was too good, so it is a joke not to believe he would dominate in today's game with sports science at his disposal. He probably could have played another 5 to 6 years if sports science was available back then. Just consider that he played volleyball and pick-up games into his 50's dominating; ask Magic Johnson, Larry Brown, and others on the West Coast; they saw it.
Dude was simply the best, but he was often not in the best of circumstances team-wise, esp. coaches. If Wilt were on the Celtics with Red, he would have probably won the same 11 because even Russel deemed Wilt the best, and he played against Wilt often. And when Wilt lost in the playoff, they were mostly seven-game series and lost the 7th game by less than five points in most cases, not by much. It was not like he was blown out.
I believe your review is historically inaccurate and did not consider the circumstances Wilt had to endure, including bad press, bad coaches, and bad teams, based on what I experienced. Yes, Wilt had issues, but so did MJ, which we learned about after his playing career. MJ did not have a good character based on what we learned after the fact. A lot of his indiscretions were covered up. He did Kwame Brown really bad.
HERE HERE!! Bravo
Wilt shouldn’t be the greatest basketball player of all time. He should be the greatest Man of all time
Yep.
nope
“tHe cElticS wErE tO ovErPoWerd” is what you will hear every time,he isn’t the goat period.
Ok!
He lost twice to the Knicks as well and to the 38-41 Syracuse nationals
@@casualfandestroyer2503 ...you do know that Knicks were an amazing team right? basically a super team?
So much wrong w/this video, put some respect on Wilt's name. I'll get you a link
Wilt led the league in TOTAL assists, not in assists per game. Oscar Robertson led the league in assists per game with 9.7 while Wilt had 8.6 assists per game. And again, Wilt's assists record comes with a caveat
"Wilt is a very goal-oriented person, and and under Alex (Hannum) he wanted to win a title and become the first center to lead the league in assists. He liked to pass to Hal Greer or myself, because we just caught it and shot it. Chet Walker usually caught the ball, took a dribble or two and then shot it - no assist for Wilt (under the assist rules of that time). So Wilt preferred to give the ball to us.
- Billy Cunningham
Wilt went out of his way to chase his assist stats - going as far as to AVOID passing to Hall of Fame teammate Chet Walker because he would most likely not get an assist from Walker under the format of recording assist statistics at the time.
"He said in training camp that he wanted to lead the league in assists. He thought that would be cool. Of course, we all thought that would be cool too. But he didn't want us to run. He wouldn't throw outlet passes off rebounds. Only Billy or Chet were allowed to run out and score on the fastbreak if they got long rebounds.
"Wilt wanted to be involved in every half-court play, so he stood there in the middle and all of us would run around him and he tried to pile up his assists.You've got to remember that assists were kept much more strictly back then. There was none of this stuff like today where you can take three dribbles and a head-fake and it counts. You got assists if you caught the pass and made the shot. So that meant Wilt would only pass it to guys who could catch and shoot -- Luke, Billy sometimes, Wali, Hal and me. In my case, he'd try to get me to just go backdoor for a layup, because he didn't trust me to do much else. And he'd never pass it to Chet Walker, because Chet always had to be pump-faking or use a dribble and take away the assist.
- Matt Guokas
He was selfish and a really really bad teammates
FINALLY someone that’s not afraid to mention Wilts record numbers outside the lines.
5 Reasons You Can't Blame Wilt Chamberlain:
ruclips.net/video/PaGr5KpNPfk/видео.html
The Mount Rushmore of basketball is Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Magic Johnson. Wilt had to play Russell in the play-offs and Russell was such a great defender that is why his stats dove down. Wilt is in the next tier with Larry Bird, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, and Tim Duncan. Oscar Robertson, Shaq, and KD would round out my Top 12.
Phil Jackson about Shaq, Wilt:
ruclips.net/video/jyd8a3HJUWQ/видео.html
Love your contents man! You are so underrated. Just keep it up!
Do one on why Bill Russells 11 rings aren't that great.
It is that great. Imagine the likes of Brooklyn, Lakers, Clippers, Philadelphia, Miami, Milwaukee, Golden State, Houston as they are now playing each other and lacks player mobility. KD, LeBron, Kawhi, Steph, Giannis, Butler, Harden. Playing each other day in and day out. However one team keeps coming out on top. We know they are all elite but one has found a way to win. They all also have the opportunity to figure out how to win cos they play them all the time.
Don't take away from Russell because you don't have IQ. Wilt wasn't with Russell but he was a beast so was Jerry West, Oscar Robinson and co..
they are great my man ....you will never see that again in this lifetime
@@davidconejr4206 I think he was being sarcastic. I also hope he was being sarcastic.
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Defense on Kareem, Wilt:
ruclips.net/video/Un7DaNr3Zq4/видео.html
not trying to be mean but if u want to grow ur channel quicker u gotta remove ur face from the thumbnails. thumbnails and titles play in the biggest impact in views. for example u shouldve put an img of wilt in the thumbnail.
Love seeing your subs going up Casey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Artis Glimore about Lebron, Wilt and more:
ruclips.net/video/9UMKTqvENiw/видео.html
Wilt not only wasnt "clutch" but id say that the playoff scoring issue is highlighted because of how much shittier the competition was that he played in the regular season. Once it got to the playoffs where they weren't beating on the worst teams in the league his stats declined alot.
This is the truth.
@@FuShengAlex Hey thanks i think youre the first person to ever give me a reply that wasnt filled with slander whenever i comment on wilt's career lol
@@MmmScotty oh they'll tell you nonsense about how he could touch the top of a backboard, bench 600 lbs and blocked someone so hard they fell and dislocated their shoulder as testament to his greatness.
@@FuShengAlex ruclips.net/video/y5CKe9Gys1I/видео.html
he definitely could 😂
When he was 16 he averaged 74 ppg in the playoffs vs grown nba men he is the goat
You're one of the people that was brainwashed.
@@coachwane i think simply put:
Regular season: 30ppg
Playoffs: 22ppg
Finals: 17ppg
This is why wilt is not the goat.
Even worse is if you adjust it to 1990s pace were MJ played
Wilt adjust in Regular season: 25ppg
Wilt in the playoffs: 18ppg
Finals: 14ppg💀
Wilt joined the nba when he was 23, you dolt
@@coltonkrum6491 cause he wasn’t under the name wilt chamberlain he was George Marcus
@@kingdinodragonite3470 also kinda shows how trash the defensive systems and the average player was back then to get washed by a 16 yr old.
Wilt Regular season : 30 ppg
Wilt Playoffs : 22 ppg
Wilt Finals : 17 ppg
20,000 : for Wilt to have slept with 20,000 women, Wilt would have had to sleep with one woman every day *for 55 years !!* the total would be 20,075
also Wilt claimed to have killed a mountain lion with his bare hands
Wilt has the biggest ego in nba history. Unfortunately, he brainwashed a lot of people which is why there is still a bunch people who believed he is the goat.
@@kingdinodragonite3470 smmfh
@@jermainebynum8265 In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 I thought it was a team sport not tennis or golf
You are wrong on this one. Sorry. Wilt would kick Shaqs butt any day. Any big man that came after him would be ragdolled. Put Wilt in todays NBA, with the technology, the techniques, the diet, everything... the game would be very different. It is just a weird phase on YT. A LOTTTTTTT of similar videos talking shit on Wilt. Including one from last week with virtually the same arguments.
@T Mitch wow. Loved the arguments. Dumb.
I love the debate Felipe. Thanks for watching and commenting my man 👊
The Greatest player of all time
I don't see how this conversation has anything to do with team performance
Isn't it a debate comparing player vs player?
Team wins championship and I like to give credit to teams and coaches for championship and dynasties
So I value a player for what is only determined by him
Something that he can really take a good minimum of 75% of the merit regarding certain achievement
In playoffs series let alone a championship
In a sport with rotations of players with like 8vs9 or whatever number of players entering the court
1 player can't take credit for having that ring as it was thanks to him alone for doing 75% of the job to achieve that championship
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 not only that. In the 62 game 7 loss to Boston.
He scored fewer points than ready to retire teammate Paul Arizin who went 4 of 22 from the floor. And even rookie Meschery who played well. This is 50.4ppg Wilt.
NBA about Wilt:
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I am not going to make the argument that after his 6th season, he was asked by his coach to slow down on scoring and concentrate on defense. His first 6 seasons, he averaged 40 plus points and 20 plus rebounds for all 6 seasons, plus over 50% field goals made average, plus a pretty health assist average. Who else has ever even come close to that? Wilt had 8 different coaches in his career. Only two won championships, and those were with Wilt. The Celtics, Wilt's opponent, mostly in the Eastern Conference finals, had Red Auerbach, probably the best coach to ever coach professionally. They also had Bill Russel, who was a great coach also, on top of being one of the greatest players. Great teams win championships. Great coaches help those great teams win championships. Individual players, no matter how great they are, don't win championships, by themselves. So many argue about the number of championships won, stats during playoff games, etc. People who have their favorites do a lot of arguing over the arguable things. The only concrete, unarguable criteria, for the greatest player is statistics, and I mean offensive and defensive stats, both. One other thing. In college, Kareem, Lew Alcindor, at the time, was the cause of the, no dunking, rule being added to college basketball. Wilt was the cause of the 3 second lane being widened, twice, in the NBA. He was also responsible for the, no inbounding the ball, over the backboard, and no dunking the free shot, as in jumping from behind the free shot line, while in college. There may have been some rule changes, or added rules, that I am not aware of, because of both centers. There may be other players who influenced rule changes, because of their dominance, but I am not aware of them. As far as I know Kareem and Wilt are the only two. Speaks volumes to me.
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curry avrages 30 5 3 a game and thats mvp numbers wilt avrages 33 3 27 during playoffs and thats "underperforming" right?
There are two things that you are ignoring. Coaching and teammates. How many rings did MJ win without Phil and Scottie? The first time Wilt had a great coach was the 63-64 season when they went from not being in the playoffs to losing in the finals. The first time he had a great coach and teammates was the 66-67 season when they set the record for wins in a season and were the only team not from Boston to win the title in the 60s. The next time he had a great coach and teammates was the 71-72 season when they broke the single season win record and set the record for consecutive wins. That team beat the defending champion Bucks and Kareem in six games. In game six he blocked Kareem six times and carried the Lakers to the finals where he was finals MVP.
Facts that Wilt Stans absolutely refuse to acknowledge (admitting that you're wrong in the face of irrefutable evidence is hard):
- Wilt is unquestionably the undisputed most statpadding player of all time. Early in his career, he was the original black hole on offense, only looking to score the ball and totally prevent his teammates from getting involved at all. Why we're giving Wilt credit for solely focusing on individual stats when his teams during this time period had terrible offenses is beyond me. Later, his offenses were actually *good* when he started to pass more, but this wasn't because he became unselfish. Instead, he was looking to lead the league in assists, and therefore is the Ur-Example for "Rondo Passes" where you stagnate the offense by only passing when it's likely the pass will generate an assist for you. Even as he was exiting the league and his skillset diminished to simply a catch the ball in the post scorer, like Tyson Chandler, he remained fixated on personal stats, once refusing to shoot open shots for fear of getting in the way of his pursuit of the FG% title.
- Wilt is perhaps the player whose playoff numbers dipped the most from the regular season than any other top player in NBA history. While statbook oglers love quoting his 50 PPG season, they seem reluctant to acknowledge how far his averages dipped in the playoffs, you know, the games that actually matter. One of the main reasons Wilt is claimed to be GOAT by these laymen is the sheer number of scoring records he has; the number of 50 point and 60 point games. Well, in the playoffs he has no 60 point games, only 4 50 point games, and none of them came in the finals (career high 45). He also had 5 games in the Finals where he scored in single digits, 3 of these games came against a Celtics team that barely won the series in 7 games. As all of these games were decided by single digits, it's very comprehensible to believe this underperformance was a direct cause for his team to lose the series. A lot of talk about how Wilt has the 4 highest single season PPGs in NBA history, but 0 talk about how Jordan averaged more points in 6 separate playoff series than Wilt's career high.
- People never seem to realize how inflated Wilt's numbers are due to pace and minutes played. he played 46 minutes a game, which is nearly half a quarter more than most of the players he's compared to. And you can give me that baloney about how durable that makes him blah blah, but it's an irrefutable fact that regardless, more playing time equals more chances at racking up counting stats. What likely happened was that Wilt played significant minutes gassed, or in garbage time. So you're celebrating him get 30 points in the first 36 minutes or whatever, which would be normal, and then watching him get 4 points in the last quarter, to rack up his totals. If you compare to other players when balancing for these figures, his scoring averages look significantly less impressive. In Wilt's best scoring year, he racked up 41.5 points per 100 possessions. Not bad, but it's a mark that Jordan eclipsed 8 times in his career. It's additional context no one wants to think about. It's even more jarring in his later years when Wilt is barely putting up double figures, yet still playing 43 minutes a game. What halfway decent modern NBA player isn't going to put up 13 points on 43 minutes a night?
- People love constantly bringing up imaginary block and steal numbers for Wilt to further accentuate how statistically dominant he was, yet all numbers supposedly supporting this are completely unofficial, and thus subject to human error and bias. Any of the attempts to go back and support this through film are on notoriously low sample sizes. But you know what unofficial stat these bozos have no interest in recording? Turnovers. Wilt was most likely one of the most turnover prone players in the entire league, as he held the ball for so long that he gave defenses a lot of time to adjust. It's also been said that Wilt got called for numerous travelling, 3 second violations, offensive fouls and goaltendings. Combined with the extremely high pace and his minutes, it's hard to imagine anyone else leading the league in turnovers every year. But while his fanboys are very interested in giving him credit for unverified block numbers despite the league not tracking them, they want to pretend as though turnovers don't exist.
Most of these figures are corroborated by Thinking Basketball's ranking regarding Wilt: thinkingbasketball.net/2017/12/04/backpicks-goat-9-wilt-chamberlain/
Man all of said was a bunch of lies. Biggest stat padders are LeBron and Harden. If wilt was a stat padder every record would be way out of sight and he would never change his game constantly.
Next you criticize wilt for only having 4x50 points playoff games.
U do realize only MICHAEL JORDAN HAVE MORE THAN HIM.
When he played no one had x2. No one until Jordan. So again. How that make him the biggest stat padder.
Thinking basketball is the biggest Bozo of them all. The biggest!!!!!
@BoosterGoldEarth6 you clearly started watching basketball in the past few years. It's been well documented Wilt was preoccupied with maintaining his stats, it's corroborated by his teammates, his opponents and even the man himself. I mean, it's just logically proven if you have even the slightest ability to think for yourself. Never fouling out of a game despite there being no team benefit for it? Obviously the man was chasing stats and you'd have to be a moron to actually believe differently.
Go talk about basketball at the kiddie table, son. Adults are talking.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career (even tho he averaged atleast 20 PPG every regular season untill his last two seasons... with a 2-4 finals record two of those losses came from Knicks Willis reed outplaying wilt how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
11-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs for a couple years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo white Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
1:48 Makes me think: Any great players that aren't considered clutch, but because the team they are/were in blows opponents away early and often?
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's.
Top Players: Best Elimination Games
EG's Finals # times over 40
Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5
53/22/2
50/35/2
46/34/1
Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7
Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2
Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1
Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1
Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1
Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0
Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0
Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0
Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Bill Russell, Larry Bird (and other goats) all call Wilt Chamberlain the greatest basketball player that will ever live.
Who has the hubris to think they have the credentials to argue with them? Wilt is GOAT. Case closed.
Wilt Chamberlain was the most Dominant singular Basketball player in NBA history. The Numbers speak for themselves. More records than anyone, before or since. Many that will Never be broken. Game rules changed simply because of his ability. And only played 13 years.
This video should be titled "4 Reasons Idiots Say That Wilt Chamberlain Is Not The GOAT." Wilt lead the NBA in Scoring, Rebounds, Blocks & Assists. When he lost to the Celtics, a stacked team with 5 Star players, he outplayed Russell most of the time. Before Wilt retired, he won his 2nd Championship for the Lakers outplaying the Bucks when Kareem was at he's prime...
I feel like a good comparison for him is that he is like harden and curry is like bill russel, harden is dominant in the regular season but always chokes and loses to curry like wilt lost to russel
In 10 elimination ganes against Russell, Wilt's stats: 29.8/28.2/2.3/54.4 ts%
In 9 elimination games against Wilt, Russell's stats: 11.0/24.6/4.8/45.5 ts%
HEAD TO HEAD SERIES AVERAGES(CHAMBERLAIN VS RUSSELL)
YEAR: POINTS/REBOUNDS/ASSISTS/TS%/MPG pts/rbs/ts%(rounded)
1960: Wilt 30.5 / 27.5 / 2.0/ 51.35 45.5 31/28/51%
Russ 20.7 / 27.0 / 2.8/ 45.18 42.8 21/27/43%
1962: Wilt 33.6 / 26.9 / 2.9/ 51.05 48.0 34/27/51%
Russ 22.0 / 24.4 / 4.3/ 47.60 47.7 22/24/48%
1964: Wilt 29.2 / 27.6 /2.4/ 50.93 45.8 FINALS 29/28/51%
Russ 11.2 / 25.2 / 5.0/ 41.18 42.8 11/25/41%
1965: Wilt 30.1 / 31.4 / 3.3/ 57.52 48.7 30/31/58%
Russ 14.1 / 25.3 / 6.7/ 45.86 48.6 14/25/46%
1966: Wilt 28.0 / 30.2 / 3.0/ 50.03 48.4 28/30/50%
Russ 14.0 / 26.2 / 5.6/ 47.04 47.8 14/26/47%
1967: Wilt 21.6 / 32.0 / 10.0/56.39 47.8 22/32/56%
Russ 11.4 / 23.4 / 6.0/ 43.63 45.6 11/23/44%
1968: Wilt 22.1 / 25.1 / 6.7/ 48.60 47.9 22/25/49%
Russ 13.7 / 23.9 / 4.1/ 47.87 46.0 14/24/48%
1969: Wilt 11.7 / 25.0 / 3.0/ 47.10 47.3 FINALS 12/25/47%
Russ 9.1 / 21.1 / 5.1/ 43.50 48.0 09/21/44%
Wilt has the best Elimination Game stat line of all time. 31.1/25.7
Stats in Elimination Playoff Games Finals
pts/rbs/assists/ts%
Lebron(25) 33.5/10.7/7.5/57.8 (12) 31.8/10.4/8.4/56.5
Jordan(13) 31.3/ 7.9/7.0/53.7 (0)
Wilt(25) 31.1/25.7/3.5/56.2 (5) 27.4/25.2/3.0/55.4
Kareem(23) 25.3/12.2/3.8/55.2 (8) 21.5/ 7.0/3.5/53.6
Shaq(18) 25.3/10.9/2.0/57.4 (2) 22.5/10.0/2.0/52.9
Bird(24) 23.3/10.7/6.1/51.9 (4) 21.8/10.8/4.5/47.1
Kobe(19) 22.3/ 5.8/3.5/50.3 (5) 24.0/ 7.8/2.8/47.3
Duncan(21) 22.3/11.5/2.8/54.0 (2) 24.5/11.5/2.5/47.9
Magic(13) 20.6/ 8.0/12.3/56.2 (6) 20.2/ 6.3/15.2/56.5
Russell(19) 14.9/26.6/----/47.6 (8) 17.3/26.4/---/51.8
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Around 60% of those EG's were against Russell, Reed and Kareem.
Wilt scored 50 points 3 times.
53/22, 50/35 and 56/35.
Wilt is top 5 All time in my opinion, simply for being so dominant so that I can not ignore him.
My list goes like this:
1.) Michael Jordan
2.) Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3.) Bill Russell
4.) Wilt Chamberlain
5.) Magic Johnson
6.) Kobe Bryant
7.) LeBron James
Honestly I don't see the reason why are so many people pushing James in the GOAT discussion, he will never catch up to Michael Jordan.
Lebron hasn't guarded 1 thru 5 for almost a decade..
please kill that outdated narrative..
Lebron didn't guard Legit 5s wgi were any good, Prime Dwight would've crucified him, Embiid will kill him even some 4s like Duncan no dice... He guarded the average 5s not the good ones.
@@divinemoyo1720 Just the fact that he could guard average 5s and good 1s at his peak is astounding.
@@TTFMjock .is it?
Lol
informative, thanks
If Wilt isn't top 5 then LeBron isn't top 10
Rick barry said jerry west is clutch but hes 1-13
And he didn't correct that point. Still takes everything away from Wilt for losing by a couple of points to basically a superteam.
@@felipefasanella7764 no. It's very hard mentally to threepeat, let alone win 8 straight. Not even wilt can beat them what a shame.
Jerry West has bad teams
Wilt was still definitely a top 5-7 player Alltime. If you don’t have him top 10, you legitimately don’t know basketball
2x Champion
Finals MVP
4x MVP
7x Scoring Champion
11x Rebounding Champion
9x leader in FG%
Rookie of the Year
Alltime Leading Rebounder
Assists leader
Didn’t record blocks when Russell and Chamberlain played
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
Scores are always lower in the playoffs and especially elimination games. Wilt has the best EG stats of all with Lebron second. This a list of the top players best EG scores and their best Finals EG scores. Wilt has the best Finals EG score of all time and he did it in 1970, after coming back from knee surgery. On thiss list, Wilt is the only one to score over 50 in an EG. The only ones to score over 40 more than twice are Wilt(5), Lebron(7) and Jordan(2). You'll also notice how much lower most players scores are in the Finals EG's.
Top Players: Best Elimination Games
EG's Finals # times over 40
Wilt: 56/35/1 45/27/3 5
53/22/2
50/35/2
46/34/1
Lebron: 46/11/9 41/16/7 7
Jordan: 44/9/6 none 2
Magic: 43/8/7 27/7/3 1
Kobe: 42/5/0 26/11/3 1
Duncan: 41/15/6 25/11/3 1
Bird: 39/12/10 28/10/3 0
Shaq: 38/7/1 25/12/3 0
Kareem: 37/25/8 34/8/6 0
Russell: 30/40/4 30/40/4 0
The dislike are from 53 out if his 100000 kid
4:42 Sounded like David Robinson after he got destroyed by Olajuwon, but before Tim Duncan taught him a lesson.
wasn’t there like 12 teams when he played?
9-17 teams
but he did face the most hof comp at his position and he did have the most games played against another hof center
Wilt isn't considered for TRB% career wise because you need 400 games to qualify officially.. Based upon Wilt's last 3 season's, here is the list for career playoff TRB% leaders.
D. Howard 21.74
Wilt 21.08
Rodman 20.50
D. Jordan 20.38
Remember, this was his last 3 seasons and considering his stamina, he would be rebounding leader in any era. Rodman is NOT a better rebounder than Wilt.
Best Finals TRB%(at least 36 mpg)
Walton(77): 37.7 mpg/19.0 rpg/24.7 trb%
Wilt(70): 47.6 mpg/24.1 rpg/24.5 trb%
M.Malone(83): 39.3 mpg/18.0 rpg/24.3 trb%
Rodman(96): 37.5 mpg/14.7 rpg/24.1 trb%
Wilt(64): 45.8 mpg/27.6 rpg/23.5 trb%
Wilt(72): 47.2 mpg/23.2 rpg/23.4 trb%
Russell(64): 42.3 mpg/25.2 rpg/23.1 trb%
Russell(62): 48.3 mpg/27.0 rpg/22.3 trb%
D.Howard(09): 42.6 mpg/15.2 rpg/22.6 trb%
Russell(65): 44.2 mpg/25.0 rpg/22.4 trb%
Anybody who thinks that Wilt wouldn't be the best rebounder in any era is smokin somethin.
Not only are his trb% higher, he does it in more minutes.
while doing more things, than Rodman ever did
where did u find these numbers?
MJ is the standard of being the GOAT .
Wilt is Underachieve
Wilt to Michael " They changed the rules ,so that I can't dominate . They changed the rules for you to dominate "
These are facts
Actually he was considered the GOAT in the 60s, 70s, 80s. The 90s he began to drop off. Not winning a lot of rings was the main factor but he has a lot of records that can't be broken.
In the 90s he was top 5 even in the 2000s. However, he still was dropping off.
This is why I say LeBron James is the Wilt Chamberlain of our era. We all will put him up there but as time goes by he will drop off.
LeBron is 3-6 Wilt is 2-4. LeBron got the stats so does Wilt. LeBron had issues with teammates so did Wilt. LeBron is know for his freakish athleticism so was Wilt and he even got to do other sports.
I get get laughed off now but as soon as LeBron retires he will drop out of the top 5. ESPN is only making him that high because of revenue purposes.
Careful now the Lebron fans will have you for breakfast.
I've said similar things about Lebron, everyone always throws the he better all round... Wilt is better all round than Bill Russel doesn't make him better.
@@divinemoyo1720 You're spot on. I think Bill Russell is what I see in Kawhi. He doesn't care about stats. He just wants to win.
Recently, he's been getting mocked for AD having 12000+ points to Kawhi's 10000+ but we all know Kawhi is more accomplished. Giannis too has more points.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
Bill is ranked higher than wilt on ESPN goat list for a reason
@@casualfandestroyer2503 Not in the latest one.
John Havlicek comment about wilt protecting his not foul out record has been debunked and if you too young to seen wilt play defense, all you gotta do is research that not only was he a 10x shot block leader in playoffs and regular season, but he was able to defend on ball and off ball and was debatable with bull russell as the goat defender, has a higher steal career high than MJ and in his final years threw off Kareem so much in Kareem prime that he got frustrated and wilt led his team past them. Wilt actually played harder when he picked up his 5th foul on several occasions Here’s the proof that debunks Havlicek statement
Some of Wilt Chamberlain’s steals per game data with additional steals and deflection and on ball off ball menace film breakdown.
Defense is a criminally underrated aspect of his game
1 steal - 76ers vs Celtics '67 EDF Game 3 (2nd half)
O steals - Lakers vs Knicks '70 Finals Game 7
1 steal - Lakers vs Bulls '71 WCS Game 6
3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 Reg season
1 steal - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 3 (part)
Cont.
3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 4
3 steals - Lakers vs Bucks '72 WCF Game 6 (part)
1 steal - Lakers vs Knicks '72 Finals Game 5
3 steals - Lakers vs Knicks '73 Finals Game 5
Total:
2.13 steals per game in 7.5 games
3.33 steals per game vs. Kareem in 3.0 games
Keep in mind, a bulk of these games are from the later rounds of the playoffs. And you can breakdown the film to see how superior of a ball denying defender and on ball defender and post defender he was
Wilt averaged over double digit blocks in regular season and close to double digit blocks in playoffs and all without fouling out. U can’t be that aggressive to get that many blocks and still be so worried about fouling out that u cost your team wins and championships. It’s just not possible. Wilt was just so good he did it all without fouling out. Deal with it.
averaging 24.5 rebounds, 22.5 points and 4.2 assists in the playoffs isn't choking and if they counted blocks most of his playoff games were triple doubles.
Wilt and MJ the GOATs. No one can top 20k
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
They always have a narrative to excuse him because he's the only Superman in baseball, that's above the goat debate.
If Wilt played so terrible in the playoffs, then why are his stats better than Kareems? Does that make sense? Wilt has the highest rpg in the Finals and numerous playoff records. Anyway, here are their stats.
Kareem vs Wilt Playoff Stats
Stats TRB% Win Shares(%) WS48 # led PER # led DWS
Kareem: 24.3/10.5/3.2 14.52 35.56/237(15.0%) .1929 7 1
Wilt: 22.5/24.5/4.2 21.08 31.46/160(19.7%) .1998 6 5
Elimination Games(EG)
EG Finals EG
Wilt(25) 31.1/25.7/3.5/56.2 ts% (5) 27.4/25.2/3.0/55.4 ts%
Kareem(23) 25.3/12.2/3.8/55.2 ts% (8) 21.5/ 7.0/3.5/53.6 ts%
Best Scoring Games(including EG's)
Kareem Wilt
46/25/2 56/35/1(Best EG ever)
45/18/3 53/22/2(EG)
44/21/3 50/35/2(Celtics)(EG)
43/20/3 50/15/6
41/18/3 46/34/1(Celtics)(EG)
40/15/1 46/32/2
40/17/1 46/23/2
40/19/3 45/27/3(Best Finals EG ever)
40/7/7 42/37/5(Celtics)
38/14/3 42/29/2(Celtics)
15th best game
37/25/8(EG)
Head to Head Series
1971:
Wilt 22.0/18.8/2.0/48.9 ts%
Kareem 25.0/17.2/4.2/51.0 ts%
1972:
Wilt 10.8/19.3/3.3/ 47.2 ts%
Kareem 33.7/17.5/4.8/ 48.2 ts%
If you didn't know better, these were defensive battles. Both had ts% around 60% at this time.
In fact, Kareem's 1971 and 1972 seasons were not only his peak, but probably one of the best if not the best seasons ever by any player.
Both 1971 and 1972 are both Top 5 for FG add and Top 3 for TS add. So, Wilt pretty much played him even offensively but was superb defensively in 1971. Kareem had the upper hand in 1972, but the Lakers actually won the series. 1972 was Kareem's absolute best statistical season he ever had.
FG add and TS add are (FG points added) and (TS points added). They take into account volume and efficiency. Probably the best indication of how good a season you've had.
Top Seasons FG add and TS add
FG add TS add
Wilt(67) Kareem(1972)
Wilt(62) Curry(16)
Wilt(63) Kareem(71)
Kareem(72) Wilt(67)
Kareem(71) Barkley(88)
Wilt(61) Wilt(62)
Wilt(66) Dantley(84)
Wilt(64) Durant(13)
Wilt(68) Oscar(64)
Curry(16) Durant(14)
no dislike 15 likes, 90 views, no comments even though I see some. yeah i am early.
100 records to 4... isn't bad. And I didn't like the point that this guy assumed he was bad defensively.
Last but not least, my favorite thing to debunk, wilts era being worse or mattering this much to the point he can’t be the goat.
The number one thing that shows this is nonsense is the fact that Kareem who is from an era that is slower paced, and higher field goal percentage and less attempts and bill Russell who started in an era even faster paced and worst field goal percentage than wilts era, are in the videos list of top 5 that he posted to try and count wilt out and these guys are ranked above several legends from every other era out there not just on this guy’s lists that he posted but countless lists around the basketball world.
No consistency here
On top of that, Wilt should have not led the league in blocked shots rebounding and field goal percentage at all as an old man riddled with injuries in his final years during an era where the pace slowed down and field goal percentage increased and attempts decreased however he still did which goes to show that these goats adapt to anything and it matters not what the pace and attempts and field goal percentage is cuz it’s never enough to make that big a difference and wilt shows us that by being just as dominant and winning a chip at that in the years that would suggest otherwise if those things did matter!
If these things truly mattered Kareem would never be ranked ahead of Lebron or jordan or in the talks with them and neither would Russell. But of course you move the goal post for wilt chamberlain.
So there u have it guys, this video should be taken down asap
Study, read, research well to be able to analyze well. Bad video. But if you need information to do it, you can tell me, I have evidence that it was as good as it was in the regular season in the postseason. Separate the statistics by team so you can understand a little better, and research the books of your time, Wilt was a great clutch. I repeat, if you need the correct information to be able to analyze their numbers and his career, you can ask me and I will help you, regards.
If you really would’ve done your homework, you would’ve mentioned that Rick Barry apologize for that comment he said about Wilt Chamberlain. He said he regretted saying that. What a hack job this piece is.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
@@casualfandestroyer2503 That’s easy. Championships is a terrible way to determine who the best player of all time is. Teams win over individual. If championships measure who the greatest Player of all time is, Bill Russell would be number one with 11 championships and Sam Jones would be number two with 10 championships. John Havlicek and Tommy Heinsohn both have eight. So is that your top four? I don’t think so. And as for averaging 18 points, he was asked to block shots and rebound and let West and Goodrich do the scoring.
@@Nightwing6422489 Bill Russell also has 5 reg season mvps and the finals mvp award named after him also first black starting 5 and first black head coach who won 2 as a player- don’t be a casual
@@casualfandestroyer2503 When Wilt played the NBA was a fledgling League. There was no free agency, the draft was regional, and there was no salary cap. The Celtics were one of the few teams that are integrated. That’s why the St. Louis Hawks traded the right to Bill Russell to the Celtics for two white players and the Ice Capades. In the late 50s early 60s people in St. Louis weren’t gonna go to watch a black man play.
Now on top of that, all the rule changes were made to hinder one person and one person‘s game only. And that was Wilt Chamberlain. So when you say he only won two championships, my response is mission accomplished. There was no way that they we’re going to let him to dominate the league.
And you never address my first comment about Rick Barry retracting his statement about Wilt Chamberlain, That’s because you didn’t do your homework before you did this video. Don’t be a Casual
@@Nightwing6422489 Wilt chamberlain never lead his team in scoring in a finals series that they won , Bill Russell did it twice with 23 PPG both times in 7 game series where teams were evenly matched and russell was just the best player on the court not to mention him having 3 finals series where he averaged 20 PPG ( 2 with 22.9 PPG or more both of which over 53% FG ) also he had a finals series where he shot 70% from the floor on 18 PPG wilt was a choker in big moments and only averaged 18 PPG for his finals career while averaging 20 PPG during the regular season for every year of his career except his last two seasons, one player played worse in big moments the other was clutch that is why Bill Russell is the goat and wilt isn’t even top 10
rick Barry calls Wilt Chamberlain The Goat now. 😂😂😂😂😂
Facts never mind the fact he beat Rick in 67
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
@@casualfandestroyer2503 you wrote all that 😂
It’s silly that wilt isn’t considered a top 3 player. He played the entire hall of fame Celtics. He only dropped on the scoring department because he said he will no longer score!
Oh, and he didn't get mvp in his 50 pt year because PLAYERS voted the mvp then, and they all resented him.
Isn't Wilt basically the LeBron of the past.
a 7ft 3 300 ib Lebron on steroid laced cocaine
Blaming wilt for scoring so much is like blaming Walter Payton for caring the ball so much. Payton was the best and so was Wilt. Ball hog? He lead the league and in assists! Kobe Bryant passed the ball in high school once I heard. Holy shit! I think Wilt sleep with your mom or something and you are salty.
The disrespect
Wilt is better than Russell as an individual player. He is bigger, faster, stronger, a better scorer, passer, defender, he jumps higher, and is longer, he has more endurance. Russell simply had a much better team, and that includes the coach, and organization. Wilt is the best individual basketball player ever.
Millenials would never listen. They wouldnt consider everything away from their era.
Jordan slightly rose in scoring 3 points and efficiency went down. Wilts efficiency and scoring went down but his rebounds went significantly up in playoffs. None of these stats are significant enough in decline or increase to say a guy is so much better or worse than they are in playoffs than regular season. Not only that, but even with less numbers it shows that his stats still are far more impressive in playoffs than jordan Lebron or anyone else in history. And it’s inconsistent to call Russell better and unselfish by not scoring and stat padding as much as wilt but once wilt gets a little less stats by condensing his game to help the team win, y’all call it coming up short despite winning 2 rings one of them beating the 8-0 bill Russell streak. Perfect example of hypocrisy and moving the goal post for anyone who is not wilt.
I guess this guy never watched the 1972 WCF🤦♂️
Couple things:
Wilt played the bulk of his playoff games after he stopped being his team’s prolific scorer.
Additionally, Rick Barry changed his opinion and even said he regretted it. He also said Wilt was the greatest center ever and he one chose him over ANYONE if he were starting a team. This video is Borderline propaganda bro
m.ruclips.net/video/MSTt_TxoFVo/видео.html
That link is to Rick’s quotes
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Wilt is not considered the goat (or one of them) is because people are missinformed. Good job.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
In 1962 Wilt won the scoring title (50 ppg), yet he lost the Game 7 of the 1962 EDF against the Celtics and got outscored by Sam Jones 28 to 22. Where was the 100 points and 50 ppg when it actually mattered? Sam Jones also hit the game winner over Wilt as the Celtics won Game 7, 109-107.
Once again, keep in mind that the 1961/62 Sixers had the absolute worst defense in the league, and it was reflected in Russell's high scoring.
In the 1962 playoff series alone Bill Russell had games of 31, 31, and 29 pts in the series. Bill Russell never in his career averaged 19 ppg in a season, but he averaged over 20 ppg vs Wilt in both the 1960 and 1962 playoff series - in spite of the fact that Russell was a team-first player who usually did not need to score to dominate a game (à la Bird).
In 9 playoff meetings against Russell, Wilt's ppg decreased from his regular season every time, while Russell's increased on multiple occasions.
Wilt averaged 18 PPG for his finals career with a 2-4 record two of those losses came from Willis reed Knicks how can he be top 10 when he barley won 2 titles Russ was
16-2 in elimination games
10-0 in game 7s 18 PPG and 29 REB averages in those 10 games
Russell won 5 mvps ( 3 straight ) and Celtics missed the playoffs 2 years straight after Russ retired despite not losing anyone other Sam Jones and he was replaced by HOF jojo Russell played with four members of the NBA's Top 50 at 50 (Havlicek, Cousy, Sharman, and Sam Jones); Wilt played with six members (Baylor, West, Greer, Cunningham, Arizin, and Thurmond). And Russell's teammates from 1957 to 1969 were selected to twenty-six All-Star games, while Wilt's teammates from 1960 to 1973 were selected to twenty-four. Let's never mention the supporting-cast card again with Russell and Chamberlain. Thank you.
Wilt never was the leading scorer in the finals when he won In fact he was the 5th leading scorer in the 1967 finals 5th LEADING SCORER ON HIS OWN TEAM ALONE, wilts game was never that of a winner bill was the more clutch cerebral player 3 times in the finals he averaged 20+ PPG and another finals series he had 70%FG on near 20 PPG,
How was he suppose to win when his team was bad?
I love his video
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A lot of this lacks context and is incredibly misleading. The rules were different? They were different for everyone else in that era too, I don't see any other 100 point games. You also don't mention the fact that especially during his early career black athletes were treated differently, thats one of the reasons fans tended to ridicule his game so hard.
Someone else mentioned why his playoff stats are so skewed, because most of his appearances came extremely late in his career when he was no longer a scorer.
Bad video.
Wilt Chamberlain should be in the top 5.
Lots of great basketball players of the 1960s like Jerry west, Oscar Robertson, elgin baylor, bill Russell, bob petitt, wilt, John havlicek, Sam Jones, etc, etc
That is very true. Thanks for watching and commenting Lloyd!!