I use the figure 8 method on all my lines and it works out great. I saw a truck on 635 the other day with your skull logo on it ;-)) Thanks for sharing this and Take Care :-))
I keep a smaller version in my soft armor, with a spring-clip. Comes in handy when you need to attach some cord to a pair of handcuffs, to restrain legs and feet. Has kept a couple people from kicking out my back window during arrests....And my girl LOVES the intricate ties during "mommy-daddy" time...;)
Tbh a regular spring clip (preferably lockable) sounds like the modern equivalent of that hook they used on hayanawa back in edo, am I retarded for bothering to forge a "C" shaped piece of metal instead of getting a $2 clip?
3:30 There is also an easier way to use the already existant setup as hand cuffs: The Part between the first and the second fisherman's is flexible in length as the loop on the end is. Just make sure the spacing between the two knots is small enough (smaller than half the scope of an average wrist scrope) and you leave enought line on the working end because you need that to secure the tension. To secure the tension on both loops just do another wrap around both or one wrist with the standing end and do and square knot. The advantage of this usage is that you can tighten up both loops with pulling just on one line instead of two like on a classic hand cuff knot.
Sure you need no prep, but still you got to knot it and after attaching it you still have to secure it properly. In this method above it is prepared for quick deployment and alot faster than to knot a handcuff in a stressfull situation.
Training at BUD/s, yes. I was with 251 through Hell Week and up until post-Pool Comp, where I was rolled to 254 and had a dive accident on a Draeger that wound up costing me my Navy career due to side effects. ~ Bryan
Clarity to my question. Not questioning your affiliation but the origin and use of the knot... ..do operators rely on this knot in todays operations or has it been replaced with the tie wrap?
haha what do you think of those scissors i thought about getting a pair but their a bit pricy from that american made ny store forgot what its called but could spend a fortune
this is not hayanawa, hayanawa is a different tool. saying hojo cord is redundant 取縄 is hojo ho is arrest or restrain jo is nawa which is rope, just call this torinawa
I am quite sure that the Hayanawa is 4-5 metres(13-16.5 foot) long. A 30 foot rope is much too long for the quick tie, very unpractical. The Honnawa is ten metres (about 30 foot) and used for longer term and more intricate ties, it is also usually much thicker than the hayanawa. But otherwise, thank you for the video, very well explained!
Sadly it misses the iron hook so it's not as useful at restraining people as it otherwise would, many techniques can't be properly done without it :( Need update! :D
The Samurai did not attach the hojo to their sayas, or in any way to the katana or wakizashi. The Samurai would carry the hojo inside the sleeve of the kimono, usually with the first "cuff" already started and tied to the forearm, allowing them to grab the wrist of the prisoner, and slipping the loop over their arm and catching it, in one step. The "constables" were also Samurai, as it was not permitted for a "commoner" to have any authority over the Samurai, and only Samurai could bind Samurai. The "constables" were usually distinguished from other Samurai by the jutte that they carried in the obi. The intricacy of the tying, and knots, signified the prisoner's status in society. The only REAL practicality of the intricate knots in modern society is in bondage play with the ladies...Soke Don Angier and James Williams are the only two Westerners recognized as modern Hojo jutsu masters. Soke Angier knows more than 50 knots and ties from the Yanagi family Samurai system. The Japanese "masters" usually only know 15-20. Just some useless info on Japanese bondage...
There are actually sources showing hayanawa dangling at the belt/sash. It's also important to add that what you're talking about is fairly late in Tokugawa rule when the shibunoka started to formalize the training and equipment leading to standardization. Before law enforcement was performed by ninja or, if there were none, regular samurai who may not have been even properly trained in the restraining and other "gimmicks" like carrying the rope in the sleeve. Never heard/seen one on the sheath or and it kinda doesn't make sense, you can't deploy it quickly at all and that's what it was used for after all. It's like tucking your handcuffs in the underwear - good luck getting them out while you're holding down a suspect. Maybe he meant hilt but it fucks with the ability to draw the weapon - I mean in the west people would carry bucklers on their hilts but that's because they'd deploy it at the same time as drawing and cover themselves with them during the draw, a piece of cord (save one with a heavy kaginawa dangling from it and beating you on the leg while walking).
Hayanawa is not the name of the cord The cord is the nawa. Haya means fast and is a technique for a quick tying method. Have a short video on Ken Wintin (RUclips) that show a quick way to tie handcuff knot and end knot. There are a number of schools of Hojojutsu or Torinawajutsu, so you may have things correct by one style, but I have only seen the handcuff know that you show in reference material. All teachers and scrolls that I know of show the way on my video.
9:12 The handcuff knot is exactly like the Tom Fool's knot on the front cover of The Ashley Book of Knots. Very interesting. I never realized that.
I use the figure 8 method on all my lines and it works out great. I saw a truck on 635 the other day with your skull logo on it ;-)) Thanks for sharing this and Take Care :-))
Nice video. Easy to follow instruction. Thank you.
Thanks for the video!
Would you explain the use / benefit of the double barrel, vs just tying a single barrel?
Perhaps I missed something. 😀
I keep a smaller version in my soft armor, with a spring-clip. Comes in handy when you need to attach some cord to a pair of handcuffs, to restrain legs and feet. Has kept a couple people from kicking out my back window during arrests....And my girl LOVES the intricate ties during "mommy-daddy" time...;)
Tbh a regular spring clip (preferably lockable) sounds like the modern equivalent of that hook they used on hayanawa back in edo, am I retarded for bothering to forge a "C" shaped piece of metal instead of getting a $2 clip?
number one rule about rope never cut a rope unless you absolutely need to
So lets be honest how many of us ended up here after watching BDSM rope tying and shibari videos?
Me, ✋. Lol!
+Dominic Eckstein
I actually loved hojojutsu and swapped to Shibari. I suppose it counts :-)
I've never watched Raine Degrey, I promise.
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Me too
3:30 There is also an easier way to use the already existant setup as hand cuffs:
The Part between the first and the second fisherman's is flexible in length as the loop on the end is.
Just make sure the spacing between the two knots is small enough (smaller than half the scope of an average wrist scrope) and you leave enought line on the working end because you need that to secure the tension.
To secure the tension on both loops just do another wrap around both or one wrist with the standing end and do and square knot.
The advantage of this usage is that you can tighten up both loops with pulling just on one line instead of two like on a classic hand cuff knot.
Someone has been studying their hojo jutsu...
Sure you need no prep, but still you got to knot it and after attaching it you still have to secure it properly.
In this method above it is prepared for quick deployment and alot faster than to knot a handcuff in a stressfull situation.
8:15 today we're going to learn Cat's Cradle
How thick is this rope
class 251 hell week 04 shirt = your experience is from Team training correct?
Training at BUD/s, yes. I was with 251 through Hell Week and up until post-Pool Comp, where I was rolled to 254 and had a dive accident on a Draeger that wound up costing me my Navy career due to side effects. ~ Bryan
Clarity to my question. Not questioning your affiliation but the origin and use of the knot... ..do operators rely on this knot in todays operations or has it been replaced with the tie wrap?
where can i get those scissors??
how long is the cord? 30ft? So thats approx 9 meters?
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haha what do you think of those scissors i thought about getting a pair but their a bit pricy from that american made ny store forgot what its called but could spend a fortune
hey ..do you happen to know the brand of those scissors? i would really appreciate it :) thank you
I give up. I've tried like 5 times to make one that looks half as good as yours to no avail.
this is not hayanawa, hayanawa is a different tool. saying hojo cord is redundant 取縄 is hojo ho is arrest or restrain jo is nawa which is rope, just call this torinawa
I am quite sure that the Hayanawa is 4-5 metres(13-16.5 foot) long. A 30 foot rope is much too long for the quick tie, very unpractical. The Honnawa is ten metres (about 30 foot) and used for longer term and more intricate ties, it is also usually much thicker than the hayanawa. But otherwise, thank you for the video, very well explained!
Sadly it misses the iron hook so it's not as useful at restraining people as it otherwise would, many techniques can't be properly done without it :( Need update! :D
Got what the first fishermans knot was for but dont get what the second fishermans was for? You never used it in the video
It is actually used to make an easier version of the hand cuffs.....look up Don Angier's hojo jutsu videos...
And there is a MUCH easier way to create the "cuffs"
Much easier!
Have you noticed how often you say, "actually"?
The Samurai did not attach the hojo to their sayas, or in any way to the katana or wakizashi. The Samurai would carry the hojo inside the sleeve of the kimono, usually with the first "cuff" already started and tied to the forearm, allowing them to grab the wrist of the prisoner, and slipping the loop over their arm and catching it, in one step. The "constables" were also Samurai, as it was not permitted for a "commoner" to have any authority over the Samurai, and only Samurai could bind Samurai. The "constables" were usually distinguished from other Samurai by the jutte that they carried in the obi. The intricacy of the tying, and knots, signified the prisoner's status in society. The only REAL practicality of the intricate knots in modern society is in bondage play with the ladies...Soke Don Angier and James Williams are the only two Westerners recognized as modern Hojo jutsu masters. Soke Angier knows more than 50 knots and ties from the Yanagi family Samurai system. The Japanese "masters" usually only know 15-20. Just some useless info on Japanese bondage...
There are actually sources showing hayanawa dangling at the belt/sash. It's also important to add that what you're talking about is fairly late in Tokugawa rule when the shibunoka started to formalize the training and equipment leading to standardization. Before law enforcement was performed by ninja or, if there were none, regular samurai who may not have been even properly trained in the restraining and other "gimmicks" like carrying the rope in the sleeve.
Never heard/seen one on the sheath or and it kinda doesn't make sense, you can't deploy it quickly at all and that's what it was used for after all. It's like tucking your handcuffs in the underwear - good luck getting them out while you're holding down a suspect. Maybe he meant hilt but it fucks with the ability to draw the weapon - I mean in the west people would carry bucklers on their hilts but that's because they'd deploy it at the same time as drawing and cover themselves with them during the draw, a piece of cord (save one with a heavy kaginawa dangling from it and beating you on the leg while walking).
so, the handcuff knot is nothing more than a bow without the starting overland knot.
You have to burn the rope 2 times just to do this knot to bundle your rope? Seems like a big waste of time to me.
i enjoyed the history more them the knot
Gotta be fast to restrain those guys
As clear as mud....,.,
Hayanawa is not the name of the cord The cord is the nawa. Haya means fast and is a technique for a quick tying method. Have a short video on Ken Wintin (RUclips) that show a quick way to tie handcuff knot and end knot. There are a number of schools of Hojojutsu or Torinawajutsu, so you may have things correct by one style, but I have only seen the handcuff know that you show in reference material. All teachers and scrolls that I know of show the way on my video.
Great videos. need to change the camera angle and stop being so long winded.
Why so long for a video
This title is problematic
your handcuff knot looks awkward. there is s much easier way.
Terrible video for telling you how to tie it it was terribly hard to tie the fisherman's not