I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Oh yeah and don't forget to turn off the flex phraser AKA arp on the layer level. This is done by clicking the Edit tab. Then click the Program tab. Then click the FlexP button on the layer you want to turn off.
Thank you for the great guide, it helped me a lot! Might be a bit late, but to anyone who is also annoyed by the arpeggiator: in the row with tabs „LOAD“, „EDIT“, „MIDI“ etc, is a button with two quarter notes (hover text: „Switch off All FlexPhrasers“), which should turn off the arpeggiator 😊
Great stuff! I appreciate you give so much love to details. People are not aware how they could get great analogue-sounding sounds right from Hallion. Purists say nothing could compare to analog, whereas in reality - everything what meters is what’s getting out of the speakers - which is digital. Not saying how distractive for music creation is re-patching of physical synths.
Great video with many useful parts 👍🏼. Just a little hint. You have set the filter to "TUBE". This filter type is active even with a "Distortion" setting of zero and colors the waveform. When the filter is set to "CLIP" (hard clip), the waveform is not colored and does not add additional harmonics. The sine wave is a very perfect sine with this type of filter.
Oh my god, thank you. Great and clear explanations. I spent way too much time wondering whether I was stupid for not finding a section where I could modify or create variations for the arp.
I, too, spent way too long looking for it! Quite a few of my videos are made precisely because I stumbled around in the dark for hours, and want to stop others having the same painful journey!
I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Great stuff, very well put together, thanks for posting. You can teach an old dog new tricks and I'm loving it. Looking forward to your Cubase 11 Pro book as well now. I knew nothing about "Supervision" till today, that's very interesting as well. Cheers.
That's the thing about sound banks like Trip for me: I'm here for the presets. I got the rest of Halion 7 to sound design with. But I understand if people who only have Halion7 SE, and want to customize them as much as they can. But I love the presets in this guy. They're unique, yet familiar
Thank you! That's an amazing and so concise explanation. btw. One question: How to export TRIP arpeggiator notes to midi? (Under TRIP/Arp I can't see any option to record midi like it is available in Flux arpeggiator).
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to export the arpeggiator output to MIDI directly, but you can copy the flexphraser part from Trip, and then paste it into an arp slot in Flux. It's a bit fiddly, but it's the nearest thing I've found to doing that...
Is the "not being able to turn off the arp" and Halion Sonice (SE) issue only, or is this how they actually make you buy the big full version, so you can turn it off?
How do you hold the note down while making adjustments? I use the mouse for all editing operations so I've been looking for a 'monitor' or similar control which will allow this.
From Da Nek's reply above: " in the row with tabs „LOAD“, „EDIT“, „MIDI“ etc, is a button with two quarter notes (hover text: „Switch off All FlexPhrasers“), which should turn off the arpeggiato"
I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Does Steinberg have a synth which will effect pre-recorded audio sitting Cubase audio channel? I want any synthesis effects applied to the channel but also passing it's own synth sounds if possible.
Not that I know of - that sounds like something that Surge does, and there's a video coming on the channel in a couple of weeks on exactly that subject.
It's the same in terms of the synth philosophy (both are subtractive synths), but Retrologue has a lot more features, and to my ears sounds better. I'll do a comparison at some point when set to the same settings as this is an interesting question.
I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Oh yeah and don't forget to turn off the flex phraser AKA arp on the layer level. This is done by clicking the Edit tab. Then click the Program tab. Then click the FlexP button on the layer you want to turn off.
@@garrettbrown1871 Pinned, thanks!
Thank you for the great guide, it helped me a lot!
Might be a bit late, but to anyone who is also annoyed by the arpeggiator: in the row with tabs „LOAD“, „EDIT“, „MIDI“ etc, is a button with two quarter notes (hover text: „Switch off All FlexPhrasers“), which should turn off the arpeggiator 😊
Thanks for the video! Very straightforward explanations and helpful for a visual person like me :)
You're the best instructor on RUclips! Thank you
Agreed !
Turning the ARP off was exactly what I was looking for...thank you. 🙏🎛️🎚️💣✴️
These are just a great information base, thanks so much for your time and effort taken!
Excellent presentation. Extremely helpful descriptions and instructions. Thank you!
Thank you!
Great stuff! I appreciate you give so much love to details. People are not aware how they could get great analogue-sounding sounds right from Hallion. Purists say nothing could compare to analog, whereas in reality - everything what meters is what’s getting out of the speakers - which is digital. Not saying how distractive for music creation is re-patching of physical synths.
Great video with many useful parts 👍🏼. Just a little hint. You have set the filter to "TUBE". This filter type is active even with a "Distortion" setting of zero and colors the waveform. When the filter is set to "CLIP" (hard clip), the waveform is not colored and does not add additional harmonics. The sine wave is a very perfect sine with this type of filter.
Oh my god, thank you. Great and clear explanations. I spent way too much time wondering whether I was stupid for not finding a section where I could modify or create variations for the arp.
I, too, spent way too long looking for it! Quite a few of my videos are made precisely because I stumbled around in the dark for hours, and want to stop others having the same painful journey!
I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Great stuff, very well put together, thanks for posting. You can teach an old dog new tricks and I'm loving it. Looking forward to your Cubase 11 Pro book as well now. I knew nothing about "Supervision" till today, that's very interesting as well. Cheers.
That's the thing about sound banks like Trip for me: I'm here for the presets. I got the rest of Halion 7 to sound design with. But I understand if people who only have Halion7 SE, and want to customize them as much as they can. But I love the presets in this guy. They're unique, yet familiar
THX for sharing.
Quite logical little synth. Only the “init” patch interests me.
Very good, thanks.
Thank you! That's an amazing and so concise explanation. btw. One question: How to export TRIP arpeggiator notes to midi? (Under TRIP/Arp I can't see any option to record midi like it is available in Flux arpeggiator).
Thanks! Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to export the arpeggiator output to MIDI directly, but you can copy the flexphraser part from Trip, and then paste it into an arp slot in Flux. It's a bit fiddly, but it's the nearest thing I've found to doing that...
@@musictechtuition Thanks a lot for your prompt hint. I was able to "Copy FlexPhaser Variation" and Paste into Flux arp slot successfully :)
Is the "not being able to turn off the arp" and Halion Sonice (SE) issue only, or is this how they actually make you buy the big full version, so you can turn it off?
How do you hold the note down while making adjustments? I use the mouse for all editing operations so I've been looking for a 'monitor' or similar control which will allow this.
If you don't have a MIDI keyboard, you could try using the on-screen keyboard (ALT-K) to play a note and hold it while you make changes...
I don't understand why it was made without the ability to turn off the arpeggiator.
No, it's a pretty odd choice.
There is a preset called calm keys that doesn't seem to use the arp
From Da Nek's reply above: " in the row with tabs „LOAD“, „EDIT“, „MIDI“ etc, is a button with two quarter notes (hover text: „Switch off All FlexPhrasers“), which should turn off the arpeggiato"
I've discovered a work around to the Arp situation but you need the new Halion Sonic 7 version which replaced Halion Sonic SE. 1.First right click on an arp variation in Trip's arp page and copy it. 2. Then click on the program tab in the edit window, and activate the flex phraser on the program level. 3. Paste the variation to one of the 8 variation slots. 4. Now click the "e" icon to edit. Now you have full control of the arp programming!!! Unlocking Trips full potenial. Only downfall is programs with 2 or more layers, you'll have to sacrifice one arp, because you can only use one arp on the program level. But just open up another instance of Trip and repeat if you want to use multiple arps.
Does Steinberg have a synth which will effect pre-recorded audio sitting Cubase audio channel? I want any synthesis effects applied to the channel but also passing it's own synth sounds if possible.
Not that I know of - that sounds like something that Surge does, and there's a video coming on the channel in a couple of weeks on exactly that subject.
As far as I got it, it's actually the same synth as Retrologue is but with another UI. Isn't it?
It's the same in terms of the synth philosophy (both are subtractive synths), but Retrologue has a lot more features, and to my ears sounds better. I'll do a comparison at some point when set to the same settings as this is an interesting question.