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Welcome back to the latest Destiny 2 Season of Dawn lore episode. In today’s lore episode we are discussing SIVA... like where is SIVA?!
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Lord Saladman: no one truly know how the iron lord died their final death
Rasputin: *I’m angry at my son, so I sent him and his friends into a deathtrap*
:The Light Novel!
That's what human parents do! Right?
Fellwintergreen:wUt?
Talk about a deadbeat dad
*I dropped a warsat on my son just for the laughter*
"Some know the legend,but no-one truly knows how the Iron Lords died their final deaths....that was something you had to be there to witness....."
The Guardian who Killed them with a Flaming Axe:*Sweats in Heroic deeds*
This lol
Failsafe definitely mentions SIVA when you are standing in front of her.
But she doesn't have an access key for the info.
I heard that a few times back then I figured it as she was referencing her cargo and the lack of access key was from Rasputin when she made it to her destination
Failsafe mentions SIVA while talking outloud as she cycles through files in her database.
"Accessing Node 9875A. File header: Siva project. Files locked behind Epsilon Theta encryption A, D, and G. No decryption schema found."
“Where is SIVA” the question I’ve been asking since the d2 beta
The darkness has some from the collapse and Rasputin probs has some aswell lieing dormant
Siva, coded as it was in D1, os destroyed and gone. While some of its old structures are still around, without the directive SIVA just stopped working and disintegrated.
However there ARE other SIVA "caches" out there from the EXODUS project, most likely soon tobe commandeered by the Darkness(thuh DAHkness, dahling lol)
Chances are we are going to attempt to use whatever SIVA we find against the Darkness, since we now have Senor Tyrant Computer helping us out.
@@jerrdnn3373 thought Siva can't be destroyed though can it?? It just lies dormant until it gets directive
It’s on Vostok, it’s disabled, but up on the mountain
@@Fusi453 Vostok? What?
First artist! (probably)
Best one yet!
I knew that when you were drawing this that a siva ep was coming up, ps great job on the art, it’s beautiful. Edit grammar
@@LazerLockon I totally agree and would echo that sentiment for the last 3 made,in my humble opinion! He continues to shine creatively and technically which each piece of artwork!
I remember watching your speedpaint
amazing art as always!
Playerbase: "We are gonna see a big return of SIVA and fight a SIVA zombie of Felwinter!!!"
Bungie: "How about *N O ? !*
I think there's plenty of reason not to see SIVA (not denying it could comeback, but I do not think it is likely. I could be wrong.) But remember, SIVA was originally controlled and used by Rasputin and then either released or put into dormancy or disconnected himself from it after what happened with the Iron Lords (possibly out of shame for realizing what he did). Rasputin might have also left it be while he was focusing on recollecting his network and power after the business with Felwinter was done. There's a number of potential understandable reasons why he left SIVA to it's own devices.
Regardless, when the House of Devils and their Splicers took over, that's when Guardians and the tower eventually got involved and went on a massive cleaning effort to stop what was happening. In those missions in D2 where we return to the Cosmodrome, it's clear a massive effort was made to clear out the corrupted nanotech. Now there are definitely strong hints of it existing elsewhere, but then I have to ask:
Is this the same cache of SIVA under Rasputin's control or is it inert and disconnected? If the former, Rasputin is now our ally and SIVA is now a "friendly" asset. If the latter, do any Eliksni (Splicers) or any of the enemy combatants have enough knowledge to reactivate and use it properly? Can it be reconnected to Rasputin?
Maybe Eramis and her group of Devil Revivalists will try to get it working...otherwise, I'd say SIVA is the least of our worries right now. As for a SIVA Zombie fight with Felwinter...we already got that in D1. Unless you wanted a reprised fight? I wouldn't have been opposed to that, but can understand why they didn't do that.
It makes no sense to bring back Siva
@@pracitus SIVA is cool as fuck. There. Reason enough to bring it back.
That was literally Rise of Iron
We already fought zombie felwinter
Let's go!!!!
SIVA is my favorite thing in Destiny ever, I even have it tattooed on my arm.
Bungie: "Eh, we kinda just made it because we had to. Rise of Iron was literally put together by our live team because Destiny 2 was busy crashing and burning itself in the other room..."
Thats literally how Bungie has treated SIVA. They said in Forsaken that they "have no plans to revisit SIVA"
@@jakespacepiratee3740 but that was a mother fucking lie because they had ever verse items based of siva in season 4, and on the moon and tangles shore there are siva tanks used up, and also guess what a lot of hints at house of devils and guess which fallen house used siva?
@@youraveragehotdog6836 Well, it's clear based on the fact that they haven't reintroduced it this season that they don't really care about it.
JakeSpacePirate E or they don’t want to shoehorn it in like Xol was in warmind. A key peice of story structure is pacing
Shotgun-God it was probably actavision that said that they had a lot of control over bungo
That opening is absolutely f-ing chilling
Thank you very much!
If SIVA returns, itd be dope if Rasputin used it to upgrade Guardians for their upcoming battle. Itd be doper if it turned one of the Guardians into Ultron though.
Imagine if we saw a Fallen who was infected with SIVA, Taken, and turned into a Scorn. That would be awesome. We could call him " *Fallen name* , Lost to All"
"Fallen name" the homunculus
"Fallen name" corrupted pirate
"Fallen name" corrupted Kell
**ATTACKS BOB** YOU'LL NEVER OUTRUN ME!
WOW MYELIN THAT INTRO WAS SO GOOD! WHERE DID THAT PRODUCTION LEVEL COME FROM? Dude, keep doing that, it was so good.
Keep it in your pants man
It was the audio I made for this episode's teaser combined with the finished artwork :)
@@Gammatrap the dopest dope gamma ever smoked
@@Gammatrap Dude, the fact you do this fantastic art, and now production, to bring out the best in Myelin's videos is just awesome. Quality work.
🤯🤯🤯 C'mon GammaTrap! This is Tattoo Worthy! We need that Art Book!
Dope😎👍🏽
That would be siickk
The Tyrant says, 'Your gear will be sunset' so I use new gear.
The Tyrant says, "Buy the next chapter in the story" so I buy the next chapter in the story.
Is it possible that SIVA is in the Awoken Homeworld of Distributary? After all, the Awoken were on an Exodus ship during their... Transformation.
I honestly think SIVA in and of itself has begun to evolve and gain sentience like Rasputin. There were hints that Aksis might have been being controlled as well as SIBA evolving and taking a new shape, as seen with the ornaments for the age of triumph raid armor.
Possibly but then I always thought the house of kings were behind Aksis considering they were behind the assault on the city.
Playerbase: Where is Siva?
Me and Bungie: Dead or in Failsafe ship, its never gonna come back BUT there is a Fallen civil war between
House of Judgement
House of Light + Saint14 and Guardians
House Of Devils whos trying to find Rasputain golden age technology
@@hiidenkiuas I'm curious ... Rasputin met the darkness once before. He's also the greatest mind of the golden age ... And he controls siva ... Is Rasputin waiting to sacrifice himself once the darkness comes to eliminate them with siva? Siva deconstructs any particle and remakes it ... imagine the battleground tactical advantage that gives you ... not to mention siva could literally consume opposing foes. I think Rasputin has been laying in wait and not helping the guardians because he knows his intervention in specific factions would lead to war and demise of humanity with this lingering threat about to come. How do you fight an enemy when you fight yourselves?
@@kburlz8995 And why Darkness have SIVA? And why darkness need SIVA?
New trailer Siva is back I think there's some red shit under ice .
@@zifer123 Siva isnt coming back😑 and the Ice is Darkness ability that looks like ice but isnt rewatch the trailer
@@hiidenkiuas bc there has never been anything hinting its return like at all, why do you think the Scorn isnt been a issue for almost a year no new strikes, lore, or anything that has to do with the scorn same with siva.
It could have returned if we gave Aremis Outbreak Prime but we stopped her
This piece of artwork is probably my favorite of everything Gamma Trap has done. Great work!
If you stand next to failsafe for long enough, she will say something along the lines of project SIVA
Bothers me a little that Saladin hasnt said a word to us about...anything we've done related to the Warmind. Yeah he said his time to lead is over but he hasn't said anything about those running around with Outbreak Perfected in Iron banner, nor our active colluding with Rasputin now. And now with Felwinters lie...he has to know. He deserves to know, as they were brothers in arms
That is abit mad now you mention it. Like Rasputin fucked his whole crew up and he’s just like nah I’m too old for this shit.
Vangyx_217 I am surprised that the writers have not addressed what both Saladin’s and Zevala’s reactions would be to the truth of how the Iron Lords died. Zevala has always been wary of Rasputin, and you know that a confirmed case of Rasputin purposefully baiting guardians into a death trap would have him calling for Rasputin to either be deactivated or placed under tight control. I fully expected Saladin to be absolutely howling after finding out about Rasputin’s trap. As you said, Rasputin killed his brothers and sisters in arms, and possibly the love of his life.
They might be doing this in the next season but i doubt they might. Probably through lore books might mention something.
All stems from the unfortunate fact that Destiny 2 was without Rise of Iron in mind.
Saladin: NO SIVA IS BAD!!!
Us: haha! Outbreak goes pew pew
I think it is quite dangerous to realize that Rasputin had developed emotions and acted in those emotions rejecting the core protocol he was designed for.
Good to see Gammas work get more love
"a different side of my personality" "CHAT OHH" *wheezing* - literally what myelin does in stream
MITHRAX Thanks for the lore man!!! Wouldn't be here without you!
That better homes and Guardian little one liner there in the chat on screen was golden.
Kudos to Gammatrap for that kickass art piece. For me, this is the best one yet!
Wow who knew Gammatrap would come back with a Banger of art
Holy crap that's a great art piece from Gammatrap this episode
That is some top notch Gammatrap artwork
WHY IS GAMMATRAP SUCH A BEAST WITH ARTWORK
Gamma Trap is on fire lately with that art work!
The anticipation for this artwork to Finnish then the video was unreal
Siva was already sunsetted before our weapons.
Haha haha yooo that is a dope weapon name.
Exotic SMG: SIVA Sunset.
Perk: every bullet is infused with SIVA, giving damage over time. Headshot kills make the opponent explode, sending SIVA particles after enemies. Think Firefly+Thorn.
Catalyst: By holding reload, you can change the "Directive" of your SIVA, to heal teammates.
Lore: Since Rasputin is now "the Homie", he helps guardians code new directives to personal caches of SIVA.
LORE TAB on weapon: FIRE. CONTACT. DISSASSEMBLE. FIRE. CONT-
NEW DIRECTIVE.
LIGHT. MULTIPLY. PROTECT.
LIGHT. MULTIPLY...
@@jerrdnn3373 That sounds cool Asf.
It's always nice to see a Gammatrap and The Other Guy's Destiny 2 Lore Episode!
Gammatrap slaying it in the artwork again. I love his work for real.
Gammatrap has outdone himself. This artwork is amazing!
Thank you very much!
I'm sure all Destiny Veterans know the infamous phrase "In SIVA we trust, In SIVA all things are possible." Speaking of which I'm hoping we get more SIVA stuff in the next Season
Gammatrap is killing it with his artwork lately! 🔥🔥🔥
Hey myelin ^^ to get the Siva dialogue you have to go see Failsafe, the robot vendor in Nessus, with Outbreak Perfected in hand and wait until she begin to speak about Siva. She will say it's confidential though
INCREDIBLE art work
I like to think that Rasputin was wracked with grief and pain losing his son twice. Once in the collapse, and again when Felwinter became a Guardian.
Rasputin finally realized in his rage and grief that he lost his son a third time... By his own hands.
During the collapse felwinter wasn't RASPUTINs son, he was just rasputins exo body
Imagine next season we get Enceladus, and a deep stone crypt location. Then we find out Siva is there as well and it makes a return. Or maybe we could like bring Felwinter back. Either way I wanna see Siva return and not just in lore.
If only it was possible to bring him back. I don't see how it could be. Would definitely twist things up a bit.
@@arcade101mm if bungie pulled reviving felwinter, the whole hunter sect is gonna be mad. Both are dead, ghost gone. At least cayde's body is in a good shape. If recovering memories from felwinter then that would make sense but whoever did that is gonna have a dozen warsat dropped on them lmao
@@tuttuti123 Agreed. Next season should hopefully see someone take the Hunter Vanguard. The only ones who fit the bill are Ana and Eris. If we follow the Dare, then it goes to Uldren by default.
Cayde6 said its on enceludus, so if we Rez Fellwinter then we HAVE TO GET CAYDE 7, even if Bungo killed him off to put the story back to how it was.
(involving The Prince of the Awoken)
But yeah this seems to be the right idea for the story, but chances are Bungie is going somewhere else story wise BEFORE we get to Deep Stone.
Because they like,messing,with us lol
@@jerrdnn3373 felspring was killed by he can be brought back, similar to sagira however cayde's ghost was killed by a thorn like bullet rendering the ghost on a permanent death state
"All guardians are infected with Siva."
I believe failsafe says it in one of the missions or when you just go to her and listen..its a quick mention
In my opinion the only way to defeat the darkness is to team up with siva, we would be near indestructible and siva could just takeover a Dorito ship.
Hmm feel like the darkness would crush siva tho, and wouldn’t get taken over by it
@@danster9928 If Siva was alone yeah, but imagine we somehow empowering it with light or something or using it in a war of attrition against them, like slowly consuming the ship and their forces to build more equipment for us and we defending it's growth
MORE SIVA WEAPONS AND ARMOR
We should force siva down the traveler's throat
The darkness would know that they cant destroy it fast enough. And the darkness is obviously stronger than light, so instead of the pyramid ship destroying siva, it would cease the control that siva has of itself, and the darkness would control siva. Just like our ghost gets taken over, siva would too
Wow the artwork is so good
That is some beautiful artwork right there WOW great video also man. 👍
The art was absolutely amazing
Matt! How you doing bud. I'm so hype and optimistic about the story and lore. So much buildup. I like Siva. I hope we see it again but on our side as a weapon that Rasputin uses against the Almighty or the Darkness.
Been asking this question for a while. After all, there's still gotta be some SIVA out there...
Should we ask respution if we should transport him to the last city, with siva?
LC I don’t think he wants to leave Mars it’s his home
Watch Rasputin balls things up and use Siva against the pyramid ship only to end up making Siva pyramid ships.
Dude that artwork is so fn sweet
I mean if you look at the leaks from a technical coding stan point they were right. (Felwinter siva) was the hologram we saw before the secret room opened. (Felwinter fight) was the hologram where the frame was attacking him. (Felwinter coffin) was of course the coffin rasputin made. Love the vid keep it up.
Siva directive 3, build. Protect. Progress
I recall some Failsafe patrol dialogue lines where she attempts to access SIVA files stored in her memory but she says that the files were corrupted. On the other hand, all the vegetation on the planet is colored red. Coincidence?
||Follow the threads of the loom. Find the tangle. Use it.||
Siva-enhanced Vex and/or Cabal? Great...
@@mikethehunter5212 however the Psions augment themselves into Flayers, it has always involved Rasputin (or the Vex by proxy)
That intro was chilling
My theory as to why rasputin doesn't have control is for a few reasons.
1, that the replication chamber was destroyed stopping the production of siva.
2. The siva on nessus is in a state of dormancy and/or containment
3. The siva in the plague lands was no longer in his control via the house of devils meaning that it's been cut off from him.
Excellent content Myelin! I’ve been away from Destiny for ages now and to come back to find your still making superb lore videos is wonderful! Keep up the good stuff!
Welcome back gamma!
IT FEELS SO GOOD TO DRAW AGAIN!!
Gammatrap is confirmed myelins son
you misspelled "hostage"
2:26 Patient C reports Yellow artifacts in the corner of her vision.....WHO LET THE KING IN YELLOW INTO HER ROOM?!
Heard you’re making this your full time gig. Doing my best to support you. Keep it up!
Just imagine failsafe using Siva. She discovers it in her files and goes from there. She's seemingly got a soft spot for the fallen, much like myself, and she could work with them. Or done with grief, she could take and sort of resurrect her lost crew. She could use Siva on vex or cabal? There's so much to do there
Gammatrap that artwork is 🔥🔥🔥
14:00 you're welcome.
Love the lore! Keep up the excellent work Myelin!
Who else misses the Rise of Iron vibes? I miss the splicers and the Siva raid tbh. I’d love to see more of Siva in the future.
The siva aesthetics overall were really lit
Haven’t played this game in half a year and yet it by far has some of if not the best lore ever
Keep the uploads coming 👏
SIVA is one of the coolest concepts that Bungie has come up with, I love how characters speak of it like it’s some ancient evil magic that shouldn’t be disturbed when in reality it’s just some highly advanced technology with occasionally faulty programming
Had some thoughts while watching this vid - What if the SIVA program was a success, and colony ships were each given a supply of SIVA mites, to help them with their colonizing efforts.
Then that would mean that the colony ship that never took on in the Cosmodrome in D1 had a supply of SIVA. What if that is the SIVA that the Devil Splicers found? That would mean that Exodus Black has a supply, too. But with no way to activate it.
There also may be the possibility that the ship the Awoken were on during the Collapse may have had a supply of SIVA, too. That would make things a little more interesting in that story.
What if the 'Seven Seraphs' were supposed to be seven Exo's designed to house subminds of Rasputin, which would each be part of a colony ship, to operate SIVA? What if pre-Felwinter was the prototype to the Seraphs?
Also, I couldn't help but think that maybe 'Patient C' could have been Elsie Bray, and she was one of the original subject for the SIVA injection tests, and it led to Clovis making her into an EXO to save her? Probably not, but it would be interesting to think about.
I really hope that we get something on the Mithrax story in some form during the next expansions. Definetly my gavorite story line in Destiny rn
Great recap, thanks
That art is amazing, btw
Dope Artwork
Tyra Karn on the Farm says she knows the exodus black was carrying siva and she winders where it went.
I would love to see more mithrax too. Also I had an idea where the fallen could be a new race of guardians after some storyline with mithrax. How cool would that be eh?
If you go to nessus and scan one of the giant orbs that looks like the traveler, I specifically remember one of them mentioning the possibility of SIVA being potentially there and a huge threat since the vex had nearly terraformed it to a near mechanical planetoid just like mercury. Also just wondering what your thoughts on the possible effects of SIVA on the vex might be.
Failsafe has a line upon approaching her referencing SIVA
If memory serves, she states that she doesn’t have access to the files relating to it.
Also keep in mind that up until D2 Rasputin has had a huge paranoia about the Light in general. In D1 he was still killing Guardians sent to communicate with him.
What I find interesting is that according to the comic about Cayde there's still some Devil Splicers on the Tangled Shores.
I'm honestly considering purchasing a few art bits.. Good video Matt!
Siva on Nessus is from a scanable in the Hallows the transcript reads "Ghost: For a second I thought there was some kind of SIVA outbreak on Nessus. That would be bad on so many levels. How about we never see that stuff again?"
I love the videos! The destiny franchise has been my favorite games I have ever played destiny 2 is hella dry and kinda boring but destiny 1 is still my favorite game and always will be! Love the lore keep it up my man
Love the art all ways
Makes me wonder. There’s no doubt Siva will return some day but I always thought the darkness was a greater threat than Siva. Instead we’re fighting the darkness before fighting Siva again. I think SIVA maybe way more powerful than what we’ve seen
I think we will fight some version of SIVA when the darkness arrives, because some EXODUS ships with SIVA were attacked en route to their destination by the Darkness.
Hopefully we commandeer some SIVA via this attack, and Rasputin changes the direcrive so that Guardians obtain A SIVA BASED SUBCLASS.
*prays*
Failsafe makes mention of SIVA in idle chatter when you're near her on occasion. She seems to be trying to access files on it, but is unable to.
I think Rasputin could possibly control SIVA if he had a proper interface to issue commands to it. But the Replication Chamber is gone and they did not intend to design more than one complex to mass produce SIVA. So if he does, he needs something to use.
Ok, the main thing I don't get is, why does the new light cosmodrome show the old space, not the post SIVA condition of it. The Thunderlord quest showed us the ruined side of it, but now it's back to normal? I get the gameplay reason why, but lorewise is there anything explaining why the area looks now how it was pre-SIVA??
I love the SIVA Stuff. Best and Most Coolest Thing that's ever happened. So Much Raw Potential and yet such Devastating Consequences.
Okay, I want to put this out there. Since the whole theory of Enceladus being next, and Deep Stone Crypt is a Bray Facility (or so the theory goes), perhaps that’s where it is and that’s how they turned people into Exos?
Not sure if this has been considered already, but I was just standing
next to Tyra Karn in the Farm, and she mentioned a very interesting
relevant voice line.
Something along the lines of "Tell me have you seen SIVA on Nessus. Ask that Failsafe, she should know something."
It was a voiceline that was unprompted and just said while standing near her in the social space. I was not in her menu.
Ok, so people think that we could get "Dark Guardians". I think, we will actually get SIVA Guardians.
Either way, I'll be satisfied 😁
There is no Lore talking about Failsafe holding Siva written in the game that I know of, she occasionally drop some lines about the Siva project being locked away in some files on the ship, but she can't access them. So in a way yes there is lore about Siva in D2 just not written, only a few lines she says before interacting with her when you visit her. 😊
Anyone else notice that the darkness particle were floating up and making it self into balls in the framing city but now it’s all gone
Rasputin has tenuous control of siva so he builds a net of satellites resurrects Felwinter as a warmind within the satellite network and imbues the network with siva. Its an act of repentance for killing his son
The SIVA on Exodus Black line is random dialogue from Failsafe. You just hang around by her and she'll mention it eventually.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t bungee say around launch time ish that siva enemies would come back?
This man needs more credit
What happened to the colony on Hyperion, which was mentioned in some of the lore found during the campaigns to retake Titan and Nessus? It's never been discussed again.
Player tag: BaxterWolf (PS4)
2 things
1) Could Felwinter actually be Charlemagne? Seeing he is a warmind.
2) Personal enhancements made with Sixa were done through Cybernetics (going back to Rise of Iron and the Splicers) wouldn't that explain the enhancements with Anna Brays eyes?
We better get a response from Saladin ana and zavala response from the truth about the siva crisis