This is a great video topic for a game with such a diverse fighter list. Some people struggle with their main because they chose a character they liked, but not a playstyle that fits them
Iv been a day 1 inkling and to this day still main inkling. Iv been wanting inkling in smash for the longest time and when I saw inkling was revealed when we still didn’t know anything about smash ultimate I knew who I was gonna main and stick with till the end of time.
I believe this did help me I’ve been a ness/Lucas main but with all these characters I’ve played they were all fun, but I started feeling like I can’t main ness/Lucas anymore maybe choose a different character. I had limited myself to go back to link peach cloud byleth and shulk/pyra and mythra. But thanks to this video it made me realize I should choose one of these characters as my secondary and keep playing ness and Lucas I just don’t who though. Have been leaning towards shulk because I feel like I almost can master the mondo but I don’t know.
Mii Brawler is a rushdown character, with a terrible weakness to swordies and other disjoints. They have lots of cool combos to learn, and also a lot of cheese. Mii Gunner is about as zoner as you can get. Missiles, Grenades, Bomb Drop, Charge Shot. They have so many projectiles to keep people out, and have a hard time up close due to their poor out of shield options.
You're entirely right! For some fighters it is hard to categorize them as a singular archetype and can be considered mixed or outside of the archetype altogether, with different playstyles in mind.
@@showmeyourmoves8551 That doesn't make him a grappler. A grappler is a character that focuses their game-plan about getting grabs ness is someone with a powerful grab at high percents but before that he's just playing neutral like every other character. In fact his grab is actually quite bad before high percents.
I think Luigi should also be in the pressure section. He’s good at playing passive-aggressive, has a 0-death and great combos, and is really strong, but his weakness is that his disadvantage state is terrible and can easily die from a hit offstage
I'd say there's a big difference between someone like Wario, who's quite quick and has good combos, and someone like Gannondorf, who relies on hard reads and shield pressure, and has basically no combos.
I feel that Steve is more a gimmick trapper. He's able to do one of about a hundred different things at any moment(if he has materials), mix up approaches and landings with blocks, anvil, and tnt, which can also be used to set up some nasty kills or make your opponent explode for going for something. Minecart's just a roaming pitfall if Steve gets out of it, and a sweeping hitbox good for covering landings in general. You see him running away a lot because like 80% of his kit costs materials in some way or another.
How would you catagorize king dedede? I have pretty significant success with him, so I'd want to try characters that function similarly. I've heard him described as a fat swordie, which doesn't really line up with any other characters in this game. Also, the bit about G&W having poor defenses just isn't true. He escapes from shield basically for free, has a godlike recovery, and is loaded with projectiles and disjoints in his normals, letting him hit opponents in siruations where they can't hit him. If he was any heavier, he'd be immortal.
Im a big fan of the Rushdown archetype. I love getting into my opponents face and always trying to beat them up. Thats why I use fox. I also like the all around category, so in that case, I use yoshi because I love mashing buttons with yoshi.
I came here after maining Samus. I had always played her and all the various different smash games. But then I realized one day that the horrible truth that despite the fact that she being my favorite Nintendo character of all time that I sucked at using her and that she was not my play style and so now I'm trying to go after the roster to find out what I need to who I need to play as and this is coming after about almost 10 plus years is playing a Samus you know it was it was a horrible realization but unfortunately I got to do what I got to do you know I need to win more against my friends.
Wow great vid ! I’ve learned a lot ! I try to main Kazuya because i want a angry hitter who punch hard in close combat and i think he fit well with that ! But in wich category should you put him? Brawler ?
What archetype is banjo and kazooie? Can I have in-depth details on why they fall into said category including the most optimal play style that should be played but most banjo mains don’t . I would humbly appreciate it.
Banjo isn't very good overall. He works best if you are ok with playing rather slowly and forcing your opponent to come to you. Keeping your opponent out with grenade and Kazooie blaster until they start over-committing to their options is your best bet. Side B can kill early, but it isn't something you can just spam as it is slow and you only have 5 uses per stock. Finding an opening by pressuring your opponent with projectiles is really your only good option to close out stocks. In the end, unless you want to win tournaments, play however you want. But in order to succeed you will have to get a bit campy and annoy your opponent into making mistakes.
“My character” never got in game, and the second closest is corrin. And with sora as the final character (and his lame “base roster”) moveset It is now official that I will never have a “main”. I don’t know if that makes me picky or unlucky.
I don't really understand what the difference is with zoner and trapper. Would you say that trappers have more active hitboxes that are independent of the character where as zoner projectiles are just a one and done type of thing? also what category would you say mewtwo is part of? im trying to figure out what character to play as a secondary preferably someone similar to mewtwo as i enjoy they play style. thanks in advance
Trapper and zoners are kind of mixed. I would say trappers have more ways to take up area of the stage with their specials. Mewtwo is mostly a zoner due to shadow ball being so good
Wolf is in no way a heavy, he fits much better as an all rounder with small disjoints, good combos, and a good projectile. His only real weakness is his recovery. But even that isn't a huge weakness.
@@tnbgaming9905 ah, that makes sense. I’ve never really played fox competitively, only online, so nobody really punishes it there. Hadn’t thought about that
This guy put Little Mac is fricking mid-range. To put you in perspective, Byleth is the most pure mid-range character in Smash History. However, Byleth and Little Mac have nothing in common in game plans in neutral... Or anything This should be obvious.
Link is my guy. I love zoning the cringe combo nerds and sweaty try hards. Smack em in the face with a boomerang to keep them in place. Feint stepback and side smash them after they land while doing random air attacks. The bomb is also awesome for spacing and keep them on their toes. Chuck the bomb at them and as they shield, grab and get free hits on them.
If uh...anybody is still here...is there a way to uh...figure out your playstyle? Like a video or something? I don't know if it is due to my learning disability but I CANNOT find out what my playstyle is..I have been struggling to find out for about 2 years now. I have like...no friends to help me so I would love some help.
@@tnbgaming9905 sorry for the late reply, no wifi. Uh...not really? I use a good bit of sammus because she's easy and effective, but I don't really...know how I play because it seems to be a good mixture of defense and offense. I know I prefer to hit big rather than hit fast, at least..and I like good recovery but I don't care much for doing stuff off stage. I don't really run at opponents, but mostly try to keep my distance until I can either spam a good attack or land in a huge attack.
With shadowball being such an important part of his moveset he is kind of a zoner, and I would say mid-range as well. Mewtwo has to distance himself a little bit since his tail hurtbox is so big, he doesn't have many options OOS as well, but he is a threat in many scenarios
@@jliong128 if you play all those characters at a pretty high level I'd say Greninja and Sonic, DK gets bullied too much and you can switch out Greninja for Mewtwo if you like him better, but Mewtwo can also get bullied a little. It comes down to how your personal playstyle is. Greninja is more aggressive, Mewtwo plays more mind games and personally I love his tech. (I'm a mewtwo main, if you want to talk more about him lmao)
@@jliong128 because mewtwo is pretty much both a midrange and zoner, he can flip flop between the two and this gives him a lot of mixups and options. You can choose to play more aggressive or play more defensive. You can go in with shadow ball or zone with it, it's a good kill option, good for movement (wavebouncing platforms, reversing and charging it on stage to make your opponent think about what you're gonna do), side b is a really good tool against characters who rely on projectiles, whether it's going in or if it's a gimmick. And if you put time into the character you can learn teleport ledge cancels, disable punishes, kill setups, he's a very diverse character
I just want to have fun with characters that I care about, ok? That's why I play Mythra and Pyra; because I love their game so much. I see their switch not as a tactical option but as a genuine way to show their unusual relation with each other. I don't play competitive by the way, in pretty much any game.
I feel like Steve would be more of a Trapper than a Run Away type of character. I mean, think about it; The minecart, the TNT, the block midair, I could go on. I couldn’t really see the Run-Away strat in gameplay too. But I BARELY play smash so I’m just gonna guess I’m missing something here.
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This is a great video topic for a game with such a diverse fighter list. Some people struggle with their main because they chose a character they liked, but not a playstyle that fits them
Very true, but I think it still stands that as a new player you should just play who you like
Iv been a day 1 inkling and to this day still main inkling. Iv been wanting inkling in smash for the longest time and when I saw inkling was revealed when we still didn’t know anything about smash ultimate I knew who I was gonna main and stick with till the end of time.
What category does inkling fall under?
I believe this did help me I’ve been a ness/Lucas main but with all these characters I’ve played they were all fun, but I started feeling like I can’t main ness/Lucas anymore maybe choose a different character. I had limited myself to go back to link peach cloud byleth and shulk/pyra and mythra. But thanks to this video it made me realize I should choose one of these characters as my secondary and keep playing ness and Lucas I just don’t who though. Have been leaning towards shulk because I feel like I almost can master the mondo but I don’t know.
Glad to help! Let me know if you have any questions!!!
Mii Brawler is a rushdown character, with a terrible weakness to swordies and other disjoints. They have lots of cool combos to learn, and also a lot of cheese.
Mii Gunner is about as zoner as you can get. Missiles, Grenades, Bomb Drop, Charge Shot. They have so many projectiles to keep people out, and have a hard time up close due to their poor out of shield options.
dang you completely ignored mii swordfighter
@@fox.4214 As I always do.
ness is not a zoner imo, he benefits a lot from approaching and approaches more than any of the zoners
You're entirely right! For some fighters it is hard to categorize them as a singular archetype and can be considered mixed or outside of the archetype altogether, with different playstyles in mind.
Ness is both a zoner and a grappler.
@@showmeyourmoves8551 ness doesn't get much combos from grab he's more of a brawler/all-rounder
@@dbrothershow he can literaly kill you mid stage in one grab.
@@showmeyourmoves8551 That doesn't make him a grappler. A grappler is a character that focuses their game-plan about getting grabs ness is someone with a powerful grab at high percents but before that he's just playing neutral like every other character. In fact his grab is actually quite bad before high percents.
I think Luigi should also be in the pressure section. He’s good at playing passive-aggressive, has a 0-death and great combos, and is really strong, but his weakness is that his disadvantage state is terrible and can easily die from a hit offstage
Well, yes. But luigi does all that but relies on grabs. For example his 0 to death and most of his B&B combos start with a grab>dthrow
@@tnbgaming9905 he also has combos that start with a n-air, a z-air, or a f-air.
I think he is a wacky bag of tricks character
I'd say there's a big difference between someone like Wario, who's quite quick and has good combos, and someone like Gannondorf, who relies on hard reads and shield pressure, and has basically no combos.
I feel that Steve is more a gimmick trapper. He's able to do one of about a hundred different things at any moment(if he has materials), mix up approaches and landings with blocks, anvil, and tnt, which can also be used to set up some nasty kills or make your opponent explode for going for something. Minecart's just a roaming pitfall if Steve gets out of it, and a sweeping hitbox good for covering landings in general. You see him running away a lot because like 80% of his kit costs materials in some way or another.
Honestly one of the best videos for this sort of stuff on RUclips. Keep it up!
You're a g, thanks so much!
How would you catagorize king dedede? I have pretty significant success with him, so I'd want to try characters that function similarly. I've heard him described as a fat swordie, which doesn't really line up with any other characters in this game.
Also, the bit about G&W having poor defenses just isn't true. He escapes from shield basically for free, has a godlike recovery, and is loaded with projectiles and disjoints in his normals, letting him hit opponents in siruations where they can't hit him. If he was any heavier, he'd be immortal.
Im a big fan of the Rushdown archetype. I love getting into my opponents face and always trying to beat them up. Thats why I use fox. I also like the all around category, so in that case, I use yoshi because I love mashing buttons with yoshi.
I came here after maining Samus. I had always played her and all the various different smash games. But then I realized one day that the horrible truth that despite the fact that she being my favorite Nintendo character of all time that I sucked at using her and that she was not my play style and so now I'm trying to go after the roster to find out what I need to who I need to play as and this is coming after about almost 10 plus years is playing a Samus you know it was it was a horrible realization but unfortunately I got to do what I got to do you know I need to win more against my friends.
You help me to find my main keep the good content
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Iam and because of your video i have stuck with bayonetta
I’ve had this game for 2 years and haven’t found a main. I’m good at the game, just not good at specific characters
The fact that Zelda wasn’t in the zoner list is crazy. She is queen zoner.
A lot of characters are hybrids. It’s hard to categorize them into one group
Mario can be difficult for new players to use because of reverse bair or bair off grabs
Wow great vid ! I’ve learned a lot ! I try to main Kazuya because i want a angry hitter who punch hard in close combat and i think he fit well with that !
But in wich category should you put him? Brawler ?
He is very much a brawler. He also is a midrange character
He’s mainly in the gay section
@@flyingtoasteroven2578 breh
@@im_Spade_ I’m not wrong
You forget the OVEKILLERS: characters with moves that kill early and some spikes like ganondorf or capt. Falcon. Dont forget donkey kong
You forget the SPAMMERS, characters who can spam attacks very easly like R.O.B or Jigglypuff
I'm gonna try kirby just for the fact he wasn't in any of the examples
Great video! Super helpful
Thanks so much! Glad we helped you out
What archetype is banjo and kazooie? Can I have in-depth details on why they fall into said category including the most optimal play style that should be played but most banjo mains don’t . I would humbly appreciate it.
Honestly when I look at Banjo I feel it's easy to call him a brawler, but one that people make rely on campy and precise projectile play
Banjo is a Mid-Range for sure
Banjo isn't very good overall. He works best if you are ok with playing rather slowly and forcing your opponent to come to you. Keeping your opponent out with grenade and Kazooie blaster until they start over-committing to their options is your best bet. Side B can kill early, but it isn't something you can just spam as it is slow and you only have 5 uses per stock. Finding an opening by pressuring your opponent with projectiles is really your only good option to close out stocks.
In the end, unless you want to win tournaments, play however you want. But in order to succeed you will have to get a bit campy and annoy your opponent into making mistakes.
How many casual players sat here waiting to find out what there mains archetype was, still waiting for Kirby
“My character” never got in game, and the second closest is corrin.
And with sora as the final character (and his lame “base roster”) moveset It is now official that I will never have a “main”. I don’t know if that makes me picky or unlucky.
Picky, definitely picky. There's over a hundred characters, there has tp be atleast one for you
Ness and lucas are more of a stance fighter, an easy way to rack up light damage and quick kill moves good in most situations and hard to counter pick
Notice how all the heavy brawlers have a bad recovery except for king k rool
Is bowser jr rushdown, trapper, or both?
So I'm guessing Kirby is the Kirby archetype since you didn't mention him.
How am I supposed to find a main when I like EVERY single character archetype (besides keep away / run away) you said about equally???
I main a few mid-rangers which are cloud greninja and meta knight
This video is amazing!
thanks so much!!
Don't worry about skipping R.O.B., we know he doesn't fit into any category
I would split the mii fighters and put gunner in zoner brawler on rush down I don't know where you would put sword fighter
I don't really understand what the difference is with zoner and trapper. Would you say that trappers have more active hitboxes that are independent of the character where as zoner projectiles are just a one and done type of thing?
also what category would you say mewtwo is part of? im trying to figure out what character to play as a secondary preferably someone similar to mewtwo as i enjoy they play style. thanks in advance
Trapper and zoners are kind of mixed. I would say trappers have more ways to take up area of the stage with their specials. Mewtwo is mostly a zoner due to shadow ball being so good
Nice video i main wario hes my favorite mario character and i kinda grew up playing wario land 😀
zoner: *pit has left the chat*
Wolf is in no way a heavy, he fits much better as an all rounder with small disjoints, good combos, and a good projectile. His only real weakness is his recovery. But even that isn't a huge weakness.
did somebody say sheik and joker are rushdowns cuz i swear i landed 3 combos with them combined
this video is sooo good!
thanks so much!!
Wait... no mii brawler on the brawler section?
I'd say Robin is more of a Trapper or Unique Gimmick character. Especially because of her insane setups.
Except in Smash 4 Customs against Bowser, in that one specific case she's a grappler because of the speed thunder chain grab.
you missed inkling in the unique gimmick catagory
What kind of playstyle is Steve?
I always felt like fox has a very good recovery, thoughts?
In terms of distance it’s pretty good, but since up b has a long start up it is pretty easy to hit and react to.
It's also good in the sense that you have a few different angles and side b to mix it up, but it is pretty exploitable -Jeremy
@@tnbgaming9905 ah, that makes sense. I’ve never really played fox competitively, only online, so nobody really punishes it there. Hadn’t thought about that
This guy put Little Mac is fricking mid-range.
To put you in perspective, Byleth is the most pure mid-range character in Smash History.
However, Byleth and Little Mac have nothing in common in game plans in neutral... Or anything
This should be obvious.
Where is kirby?
what does zero suit get "scammed to teriere" mean?
Where inking in?
WHERE IS KIRBY GOSH DANG IT
Kirby is a mix of gimmick due to the copy ability and a few other things as well.
I watched the whole video waiting for Kirby, lol
Who says swordies are hard to learn when ike exists
How is Lucario a zoner?
Are zoners NOT just worse trappers
Does corrin count as a swordie?
Where the hail is kirby
Which category would kirby be in?
Brawler/ bait and punish
You forget the ACROBATIC CLASS: some speed and good recovery with good dodges, like meta knight and diddy kong
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I always play as Link and just spam his smash attacks lol
Link is my guy. I love zoning the cringe combo nerds and sweaty try hards. Smack em in the face with a boomerang to keep them in place. Feint stepback and side smash them after they land while doing random air attacks. The bomb is also awesome for spacing and keep them on their toes. Chuck the bomb at them and as they shield, grab and get free hits on them.
Wario is nothing like the other heavies except for hard to kill
"Learning these characters can be a little weird, such as pikachu and joker."
Me who eats violence for breakfast with pikachu: am I a joke to you?
Your account and comment are straight out of 2014
and where is kirby?
4:02 ha yes, much more faster
Which one would Sora be under?
Hold up where’s Kirby
Where's kirb
wheres incineroar lol, and what category do you think he falls into?
He's like a brawler / grappler. Or you can say gimmick
@@tnbgaming9905 yeah i can see that
also ty for replying
@@lisagiordano5136 np buddy
Great video guys
-Thief
Yo thanks!! Glad to see you on here 😌
In which category would you think Dr. Mario would be in?
I would say he is basically a all rounder.
If uh...anybody is still here...is there a way to uh...figure out your playstyle? Like a video or something? I don't know if it is due to my learning disability but I CANNOT find out what my playstyle is..I have been struggling to find out for about 2 years now. I have like...no friends to help me so I would love some help.
Any characters stick out to you in the video?
@@tnbgaming9905 sorry for the late reply, no wifi. Uh...not really? I use a good bit of sammus because she's easy and effective, but I don't really...know how I play because it seems to be a good mixture of defense and offense. I know I prefer to hit big rather than hit fast, at least..and I like good recovery but I don't care much for doing stuff off stage. I don't really run at opponents, but mostly try to keep my distance until I can either spam a good attack or land in a huge attack.
isn't glass cannon a archetype?
Yes, but we thought it was too specific to go over
yea its complicated
the all rounders are all characters played by top rated players
What about Mewtwo?
With shadowball being such an important part of his moveset he is kind of a zoner, and I would say mid-range as well. Mewtwo has to distance himself a little bit since his tail hurtbox is so big, he doesn't have many options OOS as well, but he is a threat in many scenarios
@@tnbgaming9905 thanks but what should I do I play Mewtwo Donkey Kong Sonic and Greninja and I want to limit it to two but I don’t know who to pick
@@jliong128 if you play all those characters at a pretty high level I'd say Greninja and Sonic, DK gets bullied too much and you can switch out Greninja for Mewtwo if you like him better, but Mewtwo can also get bullied a little. It comes down to how your personal playstyle is. Greninja is more aggressive, Mewtwo plays more mind games and personally I love his tech. (I'm a mewtwo main, if you want to talk more about him lmao)
@@tnbgaming9905 Greninjas my personal favorite play style I just don’t know put the other three I should still play but yeah talk more about mewtwo.
@@jliong128 because mewtwo is pretty much both a midrange and zoner, he can flip flop between the two and this gives him a lot of mixups and options. You can choose to play more aggressive or play more defensive. You can go in with shadow ball or zone with it, it's a good kill option, good for movement (wavebouncing platforms, reversing and charging it on stage to make your opponent think about what you're gonna do), side b is a really good tool against characters who rely on projectiles, whether it's going in or if it's a gimmick. And if you put time into the character you can learn teleport ledge cancels, disable punishes, kill setups, he's a very diverse character
What about kirby?
Kirby is a couple of things. He’s a mix of a unique gimmick(eating people) and glass cannon(light but has kill power).
"Pressurer" is actually called rushdown
they are 2 separate archetypes, as we explain. Rushdown have tools to get in and pressurers have tools to stay there.
Wait mii brawler isn't a brawler
hol' up
Where is piranha plant?
If you play 2d fighters
Terry is the most comfortable
How would you categorize mewtwo
Jack of all trades but as a glass cannon
Wolf is light dude. What are you talking about he aint no brawler haha
where's link??? Like BOTW link???
Cpt Falcon is rushdown wtf and lucina is not harder then the first few you showed
Ridley is not a grappler all his grabs have horrible frame data
In what area sora would be?
Sora, just like other sword characters is a mid range fighter. He very could moves and projectiles to excel at that range.
Prood of being a full time Terry main in 2022
Am i weird for charging in as a villager main?
Among us
so whats kirby
whta about kirby bro
Little mac is MELEE like incineroar, donkey kong, meta knight and more, these characters dont have any projectile
I just want to have fun with characters that I care about, ok? That's why I play Mythra and Pyra; because I love their game so much. I see their switch not as a tactical option but as a genuine way to show their unusual relation with each other.
I don't play competitive by the way, in pretty much any game.
Where would Sora place??
everybody should main little mac
Also Ganondorf 😉
Pit isn't very good in small spaces
Btw I’m just wattthis vid for fun I already have a main
Is min min weak ?
Where is kirby
link is my main but i am also really good with diddy
Mario is actually rushdown in ultimate
I feel like Steve would be more of a Trapper than a Run Away type of character. I mean, think about it; The minecart, the TNT, the block midair, I could go on. I couldn’t really see the Run-Away strat in gameplay too. But I BARELY play smash so I’m just gonna guess I’m missing something here.
No you are correct he is a trapper but we felt that his play style is more like a Run away since he always had to mine.
Where is samus?
Zoner