I was about to say, these days, most of the superclones are pretty damn accurate unless you open them up. 2k+ plus clones are pretty much indistinguishable especially the rolex ones because they have been making and improving them so long. Some even have the holographic rolex logo lol
@@thethinker2688 eh don't let china steal our IP, if you gotta go Chinese for price there's a right way, better a real ChenXi than a fake patek any day, same thing goes for pagani design, and Invicta homages as well, ive heard good things about loreo, and a few other homage brands as well, which is really the space i like to dwell, nobody else i know of has a rainbow skeleton daytona design. Its a bit like good fanart, and i like it. I have one thats an homage to two separate genta pieces the nautilus and Royal Oak simultaneously, its a Forsining GMT1211-3 its a bit thicker, but overall has a kind of cybertruck vibe in the case also its got a bracelet with a patek pattern linkage but in an ap taper, chunky ~13mm but i love the look, it wears its size well, some of the bracelet links leave some quality to be desired, but thats where the big money comes in isn't it? Certainly you're getting your watch per dollar met on this end and thats why i like watch collecting as a fun little hobby, like funko pop or pokemon cards, or something kind of kitchy like that, where as the big boys is more like collecting meuseum pieces, supercars, etc. There's levels to the watch game beware however when you get to a pocket dimension straight knockoffs youre in straight up watch hell, be aware of dopplegangers that slip from this dimension into the realms of real high end watches, a guy that pays 30k for that, a fake rolex, or even a few hundo is being fleeced whether they admit it or not. Homages that bear a different brand and perhaps some few obvious differences is respectible, its not pretending to be something else, its just borrowing some swag, thats fine, same for debrands, if you get something that looks an awful lot like a submariner, but not a logo in sight, well it's not pretending to be a rolex thats for certain. Im okay with "close but not really" its acceptable, after all design is language and theres nothing wrong with borrowing parlance from another brand, but a watch that is a lie forged in hopefully stainless steel (and not brass) is unacceptable, lies are unacceptable, its the difference between talking like someone else, and pretending to actually be them. Who wants to, by virtue of choice of accessories, be a walking liar every tick of the lie on their wrist? Ruin your general credibility for a clock on your wrist, its absurd.
I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago, I owe few originals (GMT, Aquanaut 5167), I must admit, after getting this rep I don't see the point of buying genuine anymore. This watch is so identical that it would be impossible to spot unless you are very experienced and even then it won't be an easy task. The rep in this video is really low quality.
Surely it’s not about what others find impossible to spot or not etc. surely it’s about owning the real thing and wearing it with pride. I’d feel like a fraud wearing a fake anything let alone replica 5711 - so tacky
The greatest difference, no matter how many people you fool, is knowing yourself that it isn’t real. For $30k, the guy could’ve bought a respectable collection of real watches. I’ll always live by the saying “fake watches = fake people” no matter how much you try and justify otherwise. Just wait for the real thing, or get something else
The top of the line replica nowadays won't cost more than RMB4200(USD700-800). They'd fixed most of the problem. The only thing they still need improvement is the movement. The window shows the movement so u can tell right away. While I don't recommend people to buy fake watch, in reality not everyone can afford a Patak Philip. If they can get the same look with only a few hundred dollars they'll still go for it.
where did you put the audio to hear the watch when you shake it? I feel like I should try something like that on my own watch or have that when buying watch on the grey lol
When charlie said that if nothing was made in patek philippe factory it is a fake watch, i got this video totally. It is possible for the person who made this fake to somehow mix the some parts of genuine patek with fake
Like most things in life, it’s all circumstantial. If you make 40,000$ a year and have a Rolex on your wrist, whether it’s a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a rep. If you’re someone who’s well off and could afford a gen, whether you’re wearing a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a gen. And of course, it’s not only about what people think. I personally own a gen Submariner and a *amzwatch* Daytona - because I just can’t get a real Daytona, not for lack of budget, but they just won’t sell me one, lol. Both look and physically feel authentic. Very nice video, thank you!
I have both a fake and a genuine 5711 one day they got mixed up I had to go to Philip Patek to find out which one was real and which one was fake cost $100 to figure it out
I have searched around for this *Patek Philippe 10atm resistant 8168 all* but couldn't find it on the internet. But I have brand with me here so am a bit confused. Please I need the audience's help to know if patek philippe have product of it.. Thanks
I threw a Nautilus hard as I could to the floor like 6years ago. When I didn’t know anything about watches. Just arrived in Hong Kong from a small town. I still have all the casings and bits and pieces. Can i go to get it replaced? Ill pay alot if there is a chance
If anyone has a genuine solution, please reach out, to approach patek for me I duno where to begin and I have fuk all pieces of the watch left. Ill give 25% of the watch to someone if it gets replaced or built
@@joelz2255 You threw a Nautilus on the floor "as hard as you could". You deserve, and will get, *NO* support or love here. That like going to a Women's Institute saying you smack your wife, then ask them to help you fix the relationship. 😭🤷🏼♂️😂😜
That's crazy that it is real gold. If you wanna wait a month you can get more correct ones from dh gate. They won't be gold but they will have be stamped. At least the rolex watches I've seen are. Good content.. Much appreciated. I liked the video and will be checking out your other videos.
This fake watch sucks if the chronograph doesn't function but seriously there's some crazy accurate fake Rolex out there, all the models and they're spot on. I'm afraid to buy a modern Rolex right now (unless it's from CRM of course) actually there's even "super clone" Seamasters- you can't tell!
@@Cosmystery sure Miami / Fort Lauderdale is expensive but you can still get amazing values for money in many places. Not to mention the home market won’t be seeing any correction due to inflation and being one of the only safe reliable investments today but we can skip all that since everyone knows that. It’s much cheaper to buy then it is to rent Edit: great example space coast :) you can almost get on the ocean for 300-400k
It took a while. But I finally came to a personal self realization that ‘luxury’ watches are absolutely unnecessary for me. Haven’t worn any from my collection since the Apple Watch came out.
The comment saying “I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago…. I don’t see the point buying genuine” This is a fake account and the response is too. “Asking for a friend”… I’ve seen it time and time again on various watch videos. It’s simple--if you can’t afford it, it’s ok not to have it.
Wait… is the clone exceptional expensive with price of 30.000$? Or is the original very cheap? I mean the Marketprice should be around 200.000$ by now..
Apparently they are able to get hold of parts and spare parts that are authentic parts and spare parts and assemble them together were all the parts or points check have authentic movement, case but not Swiss assembled ... Frankensteinof sorts?
$30K on the fake means he got fooled because that would typically run $600 or $700 USD, unless it's made of solid gold, which we know it's not. Feel bad for the buyer of the rake, thats terrible.
@@GogoSmek Yes... I did. My mistake was looking at the screen on their gold scanner, it said at the top to start "Gold Plate Suspect" and only after changed to "Gold Plate Not Detected." It's a safe assumption generally speaking as rarely will you find a solid gold replica. But thank you for trying to police the internet, the world thanks you.
@@giovannicampos7462 Facts are most fakes are gold plated. Facts are most patek fakes are $500 to $700 dollars online. Facts are anyone who paid $30K for a fake got ripped off. Facts are I feel bad for the buyer of the fake. I stated PLENTY of facts. Get off it bro.
Funny how the gold analyzer shot is edited and cut. My guess, is this video is as fake as the watch, and that's no 18K fake, but gold painted/plated inline with the rest of the watch. Who would waste thousands on gold and not bother to pay a couple hundred for a chrono so the watch at least worked? Makes no sense. Clickbait and editing makes more sense.
I love how they use aftermarket term loosely and they used a cheaper version of a replica plus it's gold plated obviously it will appear fake because he didn't use the stain steel Patek one that is over 600 dollars for
I do understand people buying replica of this watch when the watch cost as much as an house. I would buy a replica. And by the way, a super clone cost 1000 max and this one doesn’t look like one.
Yo NO WAY is that a $30K replica watch. Someone lied to you, badly.. that’s a $30 rep, actually realistically more like a $60-70 one. I know cuz I’m quite familiar with that rotor sound it made when you swung it around it sounded exactly like the old 2813 movement I’ve had in many crap level watches. It’s a cheap movement, cheapest automatic available, one can be yours for a whopping $10, AliExpress special. You confirmed it by winding it and that loud grind brought back many memories. It’s surely not a Seiko NH series movement those aren’t as audible, you can say they’re silent compared to the China made/designed competition, but they are a bit more costlier, you’d find them more common in watches starting about $80+. Non working chronos? You’re serious, one can have working chronos with a V63 or V65 quartz movement, it’ll cost a bit more like $80+ but of course it’s battery operated. To have a working chrono automatic you’d need to have at least a 7750, China made/designed of course but much better than the 2813. The 7750 is in watches starting about $350. They do have clone 4130 which is the best you can get in the world of chrono autos, but these are in watches in the $600-700+ range. You can get one of these, swap in a genuine Nautilus dial, hands and maybe date wheel, and glass which set you back a good $6-7K altogether, that’d be a pretty convincing rep, that a PP vet watchmaker would require taking off the back for closer inspection. Let’s not forget the list/retail price of a Nautilus from PP AD is about $30K. So have this crappy of a rep with this many shortcomings I’d bet my life this didn’t cost over one hundred dollars… if it did, whoever bought is the biggest fool in the world and should probably get out of the game forever. Sorry to break it to ya. Just look at the other Nautilus comparison vids, peeps comparing real vs a $600+ one that’s way more convincing than this crapper. Thats an instant tell already no way $30K.. this is a joke right?
Could be wrong but it looks like the chunky fake watch is on the left for the first test, then on the right after edits/cut. Also, why test the bracelet and not the watch itself. Even if I'm wrong about the watches being switched would be easy to switch the bracelets and edit it. This 30k solid gold replica with a 20 dollar movement is sus.
Modern clone/replicas are indistinguishable from the real thing unless you have a legit one to compare side by side. Even then it usually requires at least a 10x zoom to see the differences. There are about 3-5 levels of clones depending on the seller. Level 1 and 2 are junk and have no finishing but at a glance look real. Level 3 and 4 are finished nicely, have decent ETA movements and for all intents and purposes appear genuine. Level 5 have COSC certified movements much more detail on finishing (often done by hand) and a dealer would not be able to tell the difference UNLESS he had a legit piece side by side with a 10x magnification. This makes me question the entire industry. A level 5 clone only costs about $1700. So it begs the question what exactly are we paying for? There was a time it was for the skills of the watch maker, there was a time it was for the movement, there was a time it was for the quality materials. Not so much anymore. Once you reach the point in time when dealers are mistakenly buying used replicas then you know the industry is kinda scammy.
The fake watch, was that made with real gold but a lower karat? At first it said gold plate suspect then went to no gold plating 17kt. These fakes are using real gold now to fool ppl. Crazy
just an FYI, you cant say the word fake.. because its real.. not authentic but real. fake is something not real not visible and not touchable. they are clones or replicas. also 30k for a replica hell no. a couple hundred is good for me.
back in the days early 2000, you had 18 krt geneves daydates usually hard to tell difference from the real deal. especially if they made 90s and earlier type/models etc..
@@Crmjewelers heheh i dont was born into it im 30 years old my father used to buy and sell them. genuine ones and geneve. also many cartiers had geneve. now all thats left for us is rolex as 2nd hand business little jlc and breitling. but the market is different in america.
30 thousand mf dollars?!?!?! Holy Jesus!!!! I’d much rather go to the gray market and get some authentic 2nd hand quality watches than buy a fake….. wtf are we even talking about here?!?!?!
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It actually being made of solid gold is wild 😂
I know. That's the only good thing about it LOL.
I thought you was joking WTF
Melt that thang and make a chain lol 😂
I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.
You can get better fakes of that watch with correct case dimensions for $600. Thats a horrible replica
I was about to say, these days, most of the superclones are pretty damn accurate unless you open them up. 2k+ plus clones are pretty much indistinguishable especially the rolex ones because they have been making and improving them so long. Some even have the holographic rolex logo lol
But this fake, as crappy as it is design wise, it's made out of actual gold.
@@thethinker2688 eh don't let china steal our IP, if you gotta go Chinese for price there's a right way, better a real ChenXi than a fake patek any day, same thing goes for pagani design, and Invicta homages as well, ive heard good things about loreo, and a few other homage brands as well, which is really the space i like to dwell, nobody else i know of has a rainbow skeleton daytona design. Its a bit like good fanart, and i like it.
I have one thats an homage to two separate genta pieces the nautilus and Royal Oak simultaneously, its a Forsining GMT1211-3 its a bit thicker, but overall has a kind of cybertruck vibe in the case also its got a bracelet with a patek pattern linkage but in an ap taper, chunky ~13mm but i love the look, it wears its size well, some of the bracelet links leave some quality to be desired, but thats where the big money comes in isn't it?
Certainly you're getting your watch per dollar met on this end and thats why i like watch collecting as a fun little hobby, like funko pop or pokemon cards, or something kind of kitchy like that, where as the big boys is more like collecting meuseum pieces, supercars, etc.
There's levels to the watch game beware however when you get to a pocket dimension straight knockoffs youre in straight up watch hell, be aware of dopplegangers that slip from this dimension into the realms of real high end watches, a guy that pays 30k for that, a fake rolex, or even a few hundo is being fleeced whether they admit it or not.
Homages that bear a different brand and perhaps some few obvious differences is respectible, its not pretending to be something else, its just borrowing some swag, thats fine, same for debrands, if you get something that looks an awful lot like a submariner, but not a logo in sight, well it's not pretending to be a rolex thats for certain.
Im okay with "close but not really" its acceptable, after all design is language and theres nothing wrong with borrowing parlance from another brand, but a watch that is a lie forged in hopefully stainless steel (and not brass) is unacceptable, lies are unacceptable, its the difference between talking like someone else, and pretending to actually be them.
Who wants to, by virtue of choice of accessories, be a walking liar every tick of the lie on their wrist?
Ruin your general credibility for a clock on your wrist, its absurd.
William Mehling what site to go to?
@@tarvorouscrawford6565 trusty time. puretime. intiime
A 30K watch and they couldn't put a chronograph movement in it?!
🤣
A 400 to 500 $ patek comes with ETA valijoux7750. This watch is not a 30k watch.
No it's pvd coating, he is bs
I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago, I owe few originals (GMT, Aquanaut 5167), I must admit, after getting this rep I don't see the point of buying genuine anymore. This watch is so identical that it would be impossible to spot unless you are very experienced and even then it won't be an easy task. The rep in this video is really low quality.
Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend 🤣
@@pitervain6644 Thanks! On Instagram?
Yes
Surely it’s not about what others find impossible to spot or not etc. surely it’s about owning the real thing and wearing it with pride. I’d feel like a fraud wearing a fake anything let alone replica 5711 - so tacky
The greatest difference, no matter how many people you fool, is knowing yourself that it isn’t real. For $30k, the guy could’ve bought a respectable collection of real watches. I’ll always live by the saying “fake watches = fake people” no matter how much you try and justify otherwise. Just wait for the real thing, or get something else
Lol i thought the one on his right hand initially was fake 😂
The date window gave it away to me
"hard to replicate the shape" noob factory took that personally
LOL
I would've took that 30k and bought two real Rolex watches or Cartier watches from Authorized dealers. smh
Good luck
The top of the line replica nowadays won't cost more than RMB4200(USD700-800).
They'd fixed most of the problem. The only thing they still need improvement is the movement. The window shows the movement so u can tell right away.
While I don't recommend people to buy fake watch, in reality not everyone can afford a Patak Philip. If they can get the same look with only a few hundred dollars they'll still go for it.
Which side me seller high and riplica
@@pankajgangwar2151 Can't understand what u trying to say?
@@calvin14888where to get high end replica watches
$30K fake?!?! That things is more like a $300 fake. I've seen fakes for a couple hundreds dollars better than that one.
where did you put the audio to hear the watch when you shake it? I feel like I should try something like that on my own watch or have that when buying watch on the grey lol
It's not fake if it's basically a gold bracelet and you can get it with no name on the dial. I would wear it. It still looks nice.
The lighting on that beautiful day date is beyond this world
Much appreciate CRM family, Awesome episode🔥..
Thank you Saeed. The real episode is tomorrow. 😉
When charlie said that if nothing was made in patek philippe factory it is a fake watch, i got this video totally. It is possible for the person who made this fake to somehow mix the some parts of genuine patek with fake
Whats the movement in the fake one?
Like most things in life, it’s all circumstantial. If you make 40,000$ a year and have a Rolex on your wrist, whether it’s a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a rep. If you’re someone who’s well off and could afford a gen, whether you’re wearing a gen or a rep, people will assume it’s a gen. And of course, it’s not only about what people think. I personally own a gen Submariner and a *amzwatch* Daytona - because I just can’t get a real Daytona, not for lack of budget, but they just won’t sell me one, lol. Both look and physically feel authentic. Very nice video, thank you!
I have both a fake and a genuine 5711 one day they got mixed up I had to go to Philip Patek to find out which one was real and which one was fake cost $100 to figure it out
😂
Wait what someone paid 30 grand for that fake that’s absolutely nuts
Telle me about it James. It is made out of gold though, which is not characteristic for a fake.
Anyone who buys this is probably gonna try to pass it off as real and flip it, I don’t see why else someone would pay 30k for a fake 💀
Right, but this particular fake watch is made of gold. However, it is still a bad replica.
I have searched around for this *Patek Philippe 10atm resistant 8168 all* but couldn't find it on the internet. But I have brand with me here so am a bit confused. Please I need the audience's help to know if patek philippe have product of it.. Thanks
Still confused on who would spend 30k on a fake watch?
Me too, but people are pretty crazy.
I’m almost certain they don’t know, like who would think a full gold watch is fake
Probably the same kind of clueless idiot who would buy a 30k Rolex.
How can something that size made out of 18K gold be worth $1,000? 🤷
Did you not see the reading on the XRF Niton scanner?
im impressed that their are 30k rep watches i thought only less wealthy people bought replicas but 30k it far from less wealthy
What about the movement? Did the fake/aftermarket watch at least use the real movement?
Great video. You need to do more of these.
That's the finitely the plan MJ 😉
So how do you price a replica I want to sell mine???
Easier giveaway is seeing if the wearer is in an inexpensive , or entry level luxury car.
I threw a Nautilus hard as I could to the floor like 6years ago. When I didn’t know anything about watches. Just arrived in Hong Kong from a small town. I still have all the casings and bits and pieces. Can i go to get it replaced? Ill pay alot if there is a chance
If anyone has a genuine solution, please reach out, to approach patek for me I duno where to begin and I have fuk all pieces of the watch left. Ill give 25% of the watch to someone if it gets replaced or built
@@joelz2255 You threw a Nautilus on the floor "as hard as you could".
You deserve, and will get, *NO* support or love here. That like going to a Women's Institute saying you smack your wife, then ask them to help you fix the relationship. 😭🤷🏼♂️😂😜
Please help me to identify if fake or orig my patek watch
That's crazy that it is real gold. If you wanna wait a month you can get more correct ones from dh gate. They won't be gold but they will have be stamped. At least the rolex watches I've seen are. Good content.. Much appreciated. I liked the video and will be checking out your other videos.
Charlie how do you feel about the new Platinium day date with fluted platinum bezel? I love it lol
Lol
Nobody would pay $30,000 for the fake if they knew it was a fake.
😂😂😂30k true the drain
People are out of their minds. The owner of this watch actually did.
Should’ve shown the movement, that’s by far the easiest way of telling real vs fakes
The owner of this replica didn't want us to open it 🤷
Someone paid $30k on a fake that is wild
No
Yes, the guy who brought this to the store paid $30,000 for it.
@@Crmjewelers but did he buy it as real?
No
This fake watch sucks if the chronograph doesn't function but seriously there's some crazy accurate fake Rolex out there, all the models and they're spot on. I'm afraid to buy a modern Rolex right now (unless it's from CRM of course) actually there's even "super clone" Seamasters- you can't tell!
Well watchmakers always can tell =)
@@AnimeVideoEditor doesn't matter if you can't open them up. It's even getting hard with a lens
Deep Sea 5980 had me dead 💀
😂😂😂
More like omega ultra deep seamaster 🤣
It would get the $30,000 “aftermarket” watch any day and use the remaining $320,000 for a house 🏠 That’s an accomplishment
well you would have wasted 30k. Id rather buy a Rolex thats real and then get the house (thats probably overpriced af as well in this market)
@@Cosmystery Everyone so pressed about house prices when they are completely reasonable in most places 😂😂
@@Genesis-lz6sx huh? Do you not live in the US because they are sky high everywhere here
@@Cosmystery I live in Florida the hottest marker around and do real estate here :) the prices are fair and in some spots even undervalued still
@@Cosmystery sure Miami / Fort Lauderdale is expensive but you can still get amazing values for money in many places. Not to mention the home market won’t be seeing any correction due to inflation and being one of the only safe reliable investments today but we can skip all that since everyone knows that. It’s much cheaper to buy then it is to rent
Edit: great example space coast :) you can almost get on the ocean for 300-400k
I have a $30,000 fake Patek Philippe I can sell you.
Me too!
Thanks for the informative video brother
Anytime my friend!
If the watch didn't say patek Philip would you still wear it 😂
What watch is that u have on, that light blue is fire
Platinum Day-Date
It took a while. But I finally came to a personal self realization that ‘luxury’ watches are absolutely unnecessary for me. Haven’t worn any from my collection since the Apple Watch came out.
Cool comparison. Don’t know how that replica is $30k thoooo
It's made out of gold. Watch the last part of the video.
Amazing how many people ramble without watching the whole video
Awesome video love these!!
Thank you Rob!
I want to know what kind of people spends 30k on a fake watch
The stupid ones lol
Can you show us its movement comparison
Unfortunately, the owner of the replica didn't want us to open it.
Love these videos!
Chinese : Thank you we will be better next time
Fake?
Looks real, feels real, tastes real.
The comment saying “I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago…. I don’t see the point buying genuine” This is a fake account and the response is too. “Asking for a friend”… I’ve seen it time and time again on various watch videos. It’s simple--if you can’t afford it, it’s ok not to have it.
Great video bro🔥 I had no idea scammers will go all out with real gold lol. Thanks and keep it up! 💜🇺🇸
Thank you my friend 👍👍
Wait… is the clone exceptional expensive with price of 30.000$? Or is the original very cheap? I mean the Marketprice should be around 200.000$ by now..
The clone is made out of gold.
@@Crmjewelers there are so many other things you could buy for that money. And this is basically one of the fastest ways to devalue money.. y
Great short video, 30K on a fake thats mental to start with.
when you have money buy the real when the market is bullish buy fake when market is bullish
30k for a replica 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the guy must be soft in the head
To say the least LOL.
His head is as functional as the chrono of the fake!😂
@Nick Chang LOL 😂
wait........ how is it possible that fake is 30,000????? No fake watches will cost that high!!!!!
This one is made of gold, but still it is a bad replica
Am i going crazy or has this video been posted before? 😂 i swear reading these comments im having flash backs that ive read them already lol
This is the first time we release this RUclips video.
Apparently they are able to get hold of parts and spare parts that are authentic parts and spare parts and assemble them together were all the parts or points check have authentic movement, case but not Swiss assembled ... Frankensteinof sorts?
Why would anyone buy a fake watch that does not even work properly for $30,000? You can spend $30,000 and buy a really nice genuine luxury watch.
I mean, if I'm gonna go fake, I'm gonna go fake gold too. C'mon.
They put extra Zinc and Palladium elements inside the gold.Interesting😏
No such thing as a 30k fake. Super fakes are 600 US$ and lesser quality ones around 300 US$.
There is if it's made out of actual gold. Re-watch the last part of the video.
$30K on the fake means he got fooled because that would typically run $600 or $700 USD, unless it's made of solid gold, which we know it's not. Feel bad for the buyer of the rake, thats terrible.
Yes, it's made out of solid gold. We tested it with our XRF analyzer towards the end of the video.
Did you bother to watch the video before you decided to present the world with your (uninformed) opinion?
@@GogoSmek Yes... I did. My mistake was looking at the screen on their gold scanner, it said at the top to start "Gold Plate Suspect" and only after changed to "Gold Plate Not Detected." It's a safe assumption generally speaking as rarely will you find a solid gold replica. But thank you for trying to police the internet, the world thanks you.
@@GRAFHC Maybe try absorbing all the information in the video before posting. Better to be informed, instead of opinionated
@@giovannicampos7462 Facts are most fakes are gold plated. Facts are most patek fakes are $500 to $700 dollars online. Facts are anyone who paid $30K for a fake got ripped off. Facts are I feel bad for the buyer of the fake. I stated PLENTY of facts. Get off it bro.
I wouldn’t pay 30k for a chronograph that doesn’t work. 😂
so it's to be assumed that these are in circulation?
Good question. I don't think these fakes would fool many people if they were indeed circulated.
@@Crmjewelers oh true, ok ty for response
The clunking movement would be a dead give away.
Even though it's fake the gold is worth about 13k scrap 😂 I mean he could melt it down and have you guys make him a Cuban haha
LOL
Funny how the gold analyzer shot is edited and cut. My guess, is this video is as fake as the watch, and that's no 18K fake, but gold painted/plated inline with the rest of the watch. Who would waste thousands on gold and not bother to pay a couple hundred for a chrono so the watch at least worked? Makes no sense. Clickbait and editing makes more sense.
You're funny. Watch the Reel on IG to see the scanning of both watches as well with the Niton XL2.
I had a hard time seeing the differences even when pointed out. Fakes are getting good.
The only winner here is the person who sold the fake watch. You need a PhD to become a fake watch buster these days.
Unfortunately, the guy who bought it knew it was fake and wanted to buy a fake watch.
I love how they use aftermarket term loosely and they used a cheaper version of a replica plus it's gold plated obviously it will appear fake because he didn't use the stain steel Patek one that is over 600 dollars for
Well you have the original for comparison. If one was to look at the fake alone, nobody will doubt it.
I do understand people buying replica of this watch when the watch cost as much as an house. I would buy a replica. And by the way, a super clone cost 1000 max and this one doesn’t look like one.
Because you chose to mingle those items in the same room you become suspect Rejections should be sprayed red and documented rejected.
Yo NO WAY is that a $30K replica watch. Someone lied to you, badly.. that’s a $30 rep, actually realistically more like a $60-70 one. I know cuz I’m quite familiar with that rotor sound it made when you swung it around it sounded exactly like the old 2813 movement I’ve had in many crap level watches. It’s a cheap movement, cheapest automatic available, one can be yours for a whopping $10, AliExpress special. You confirmed it by winding it and that loud grind brought back many memories. It’s surely not a Seiko NH series movement those aren’t as audible, you can say they’re silent compared to the China made/designed competition, but they are a bit more costlier, you’d find them more common in watches starting about $80+. Non working chronos? You’re serious, one can have working chronos with a V63 or V65 quartz movement, it’ll cost a bit more like $80+ but of course it’s battery operated. To have a working chrono automatic you’d need to have at least a 7750, China made/designed of course but much better than the 2813. The 7750 is in watches starting about $350. They do have clone 4130 which is the best you can get in the world of chrono autos, but these are in watches in the $600-700+ range. You can get one of these, swap in a genuine Nautilus dial, hands and maybe date wheel, and glass which set you back a good $6-7K altogether, that’d be a pretty convincing rep, that a PP vet watchmaker would require taking off the back for closer inspection. Let’s not forget the list/retail price of a Nautilus from PP AD is about $30K. So have this crappy of a rep with this many shortcomings I’d bet my life this didn’t cost over one hundred dollars… if it did, whoever bought is the biggest fool in the world and should probably get out of the game forever. Sorry to break it to ya. Just look at the other Nautilus comparison vids, peeps comparing real vs a $600+ one that’s way more convincing than this crapper. Thats an instant tell already no way $30K.. this is a joke right?
Could be wrong but it looks like the chunky fake watch is on the left for the first test, then on the right after edits/cut. Also, why test the bracelet and not the watch itself. Even if I'm wrong about the watches being switched would be easy to switch the bracelets and edit it. This 30k solid gold replica with a 20 dollar movement is sus.
You're a good student of conspiracies 🤣🤣🤣
30k for a fake?! i would much rather get a rolex or a cheap patek calatrava 😂😂
That’s a bad fake. Use a PPF and other than the crown popping you won’t be able to tell. Shout out to RepTime! ;)
The only good thing this fake has going for it is that's it's actually made out of 18K god.
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@@Crmjewelers and it’s a fraction of the price and tells the same time and 99.99% of people won’t know it’s fake. ;)
But you'll know and it won't appreciate in price like the real thing. 😉
@@Crmjewelers As your good friend Roman Sharf always says - “watches are not investments” ;)
BAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's okay if you disagree with friends. 😉
30 bags for that?? its not even identical or close to, the crown area is particularly bad and the chrono buttons
why did it sounds like that
For $30,000 you could buy 6-7 Grand Seikos.
Wait, a 30 Grand bootleg watch? There are so many watches you can buy for 30 Grand
Hope you guys are destroying those fakes in the most disrespectful way… that’s crazy
On this the dial on the fake was flat in comparison to the real one. Spotted that before anything else.
The case dimension difference was also very easy to spot. What gets me is that they're making these things out of real gold. That's nuts.
@@Crmjewelers I noticed your meter read very close to 18K.
Yes, it's 18k gold.
There is no way that fake cost 30.000 or did I read the title wrong
The platinum day date 🔥👌
Modern clone/replicas are indistinguishable from the real thing unless you have a legit one to compare side by side. Even then it usually requires at least a 10x zoom to see the differences. There are about 3-5 levels of clones depending on the seller. Level 1 and 2 are junk and have no finishing but at a glance look real. Level 3 and 4 are finished nicely, have decent ETA movements and for all intents and purposes appear genuine. Level 5 have COSC certified movements much more detail on finishing (often done by hand) and a dealer would not be able to tell the difference UNLESS he had a legit piece side by side with a 10x magnification. This makes me question the entire industry. A level 5 clone only costs about $1700. So it begs the question what exactly are we paying for? There was a time it was for the skills of the watch maker, there was a time it was for the movement, there was a time it was for the quality materials. Not so much anymore. Once you reach the point in time when dealers are mistakenly buying used replicas then you know the industry is kinda scammy.
Where i can find level 5 replica? with COSC cert etc
The fake watch, was that made with real gold but a lower karat? At first it said gold plate suspect then went to no gold plating 17kt. These fakes are using real gold now to fool ppl. Crazy
You know how I know if it's fake? If you own one!
Why is every clone nicer than the original I dont get it.
Lol if I wanted the gold I would have bought 24k gold bars instead
No one's buys watches for the gold. 🤷
Why would you pay 30Gs for a fake? Who are you trying to impress with that?😆😆😆
Replica watches are for posers, anybody who actually likes watches would buy within their means….
You're getting ripped off if you spent 30k for a super fake. $500
Remember that this fake was made out of actual gold. A $500 fake isn't.
Fake scarcity creates fake market, hope they start making good fake ferraris and gt3's not just watches.
just an FYI, you cant say the word fake.. because its real.. not authentic but real. fake is something not real not visible and not touchable. they are clones or replicas. also 30k for a replica hell no. a couple hundred is good for me.
This is what you get when you buy a rep on Aliexpress.LOL $80 gets you a clunker!
back in the days early 2000, you had 18 krt geneves daydates usually hard to tell difference from the real deal. especially if they made 90s and earlier type/models etc..
So you go way back my friend. 😉
@@Crmjewelers heheh i dont was born into it im 30 years old my father used to buy and sell them. genuine ones and geneve. also many cartiers had geneve. now all thats left for us is rolex as 2nd hand business little jlc and breitling. but the market is different in america.
Your terminology is incorrect. It's not a fake watch. It's a real watch. It's a fake Patek.
this is very bad replica, i know replica of patek very impressive, but cost 1000/1500€
The only good thing is that it's made out of actual gold. Gold replicas usually aren't, so the relative weight difference is significant.
@@Crmjewelers yes, I agree with you. greetings from Turin🇮🇹
30 thousand mf dollars?!?!?!
Holy Jesus!!!!
I’d much rather go to the gray market and get some authentic 2nd hand quality watches than buy a fake….. wtf are we even talking about here?!?!?!