I so agree with you. Most of the times our expectations as photographers are ruining the whole experience. I've been working on learning how to let go and not having expectations on my creative collabs. Of course, if it's a paid gig you have to deliver certain results and having a plan along with expectations is not a bad thing. But if it's a "play shoot" we have to have fun first and photographs are secondary. Number 9 looks very pretty in sepia/black and white!
Oh yeah, paid gigs definitely have to meet certain expectations and ideas, but I do find that it can be a good exercise if we don't mistake it for the only acceptable outcome outside of the job. And thank you! I'm so glad I revisited all of these.
This video is so amazingly true. I have photos I have wanted to throw away & other people have said they are good. As time past I agreed & I was glad that I listened to them. Some of the photo have became my favorites. Sometimes we are not the best judge of our photos for the reasons you mentioned. .
So true, and I'm glad you held onto the ones you dismissed too fast! I find it super fascinating to look back on very old work of mine that I don't particularly remember. It's the most like I'll ever get to viewing my own work as someone else's.
My favorites of this episode are: 4 - 5- 6 -8 - 9 - 13 -15 -16 & 19. My top five are: 16 - 8 - 6 - 9 & 15. I think an intrinsic part of film photography is the probability of failure and a constant check of expectations, even with the most systematic approach we work with a medium with a high level of uncertainty. I think it is better to embrace this, instead of fall in frustration. A result is better than no results, and a mistake can be an opportunity.
A similar thing happened to me recently. I bought some rolls of Bergger Pancro 400 in 120 and didn't realize they were already expired. The rolls had some issues with the backing paper. The photos I took have a strange texture that is very noticeable especially in the shadows. Initially I was very disappointed, but after sharing those photos on social media anyway, I realized that people liked the photos and didn't care that they weren't perfect. I was the only one who cared.
Yes!! There are definitely times when you have to meet a certain technical need for a job or whatever, but otherwise, the variety of what makes things work and not work is so wide and I think best defined when viewed from multiple perspectives.
I totally agree with what you are saying in this video! Images that I once thought were pure garbage, can be seen in a different light than my initial expectations, and become more powerful with time away from them! This looked like a fun shoot and I agree, the images have their own unique flair and are wonderful!!
Thank you!! And yes! I'm so glad I am not one to throw away images immediately. I'd have lost SO much if I was convinced that my initial thoughts of a photo were the the absolute fact about the photos.
I shot a kiev consistently for about 5 years. Mostly indoors. Never outdoors with flash. 1/30th second sych speed and my limited skills couldn't make the camera do what i wanted it to do. I pulled them out of the closet for the first time in 15 years. And i'll shoot with them at the end of may. The one thing i'll be doing differently when i play with them outside is the humble neutral density filter. I think it would be an asset with that fuji lens.
Ahh, yes. I really should bring some NDs with me when I bring that lens out. I always forget about those things ... Thank you for the reminder! And I really need to give a Kiev a try one day. They seem to have a unique charm.
@@JamieMPhoto oh i wouldn't do that. unless your a masochist. 26 years ago getting a kiev to run consistently and reliably was worth all the extra frustration, fiddling and wasted film and ritual. there were no affordable entry level mf slrs. today a kiev kit cost the same as a bronica, mamiya or good tlr. I got a cla'd texas leica for less than what you can find a keiv kit on the bay. the glass is nice. I used the glass on a mamiya 645 1000's for years. while the commie bodies and backs were ignored. the less time you spend fighting your equipment or emulsion the more time you get to compose and think about your shot. I'm in a weird place artistically. I got a closet full of toys i've been buying for 20 years. I like pulling em out and using them again with everything i've learned since they got stored.
@@cecilsharps Definitely true! I won't be spending much -- if anything -- but it would definitely be fun to play with if I get a chance. Very interesting that the lenses work on Mamiyas, though. I never knew that! Speaking of Bronicas, I just sold and then traded my way directly back into one. ha ha. They're terribly underrated and I think people should be looking to those if they want quality MF at not outrageous prices.
@@JamieMPhoto it requires an adapter. they used to be available for 20 bucks. no clue what the current market rate would be. some people went as far as to adapt the kiev lenses to a pentax 67. I'm sure that required more expense and finesse than would be worth it today. I'm waiting on the post lady to complete my bronica trifecta today. I have an etr, gs-1 and today an sqb. It's silly why i bought it but it was easier to get than a 6x6 back for the gs1. my enlarger only does up to 6x6 and i didn't want to crop.
@@JamieMPhoto What a tiny, tiny thing the sq is compared to the gs. I see now why the hassie is so popular. that extra mm on the negative adds so much weight and bulk on the gs-1. I've got to find someone to work on the prism finder, open it up or replace it. the glass itself moves a mm or so and rattles. i think it foam deterioration but i have very mixed results with diy camera repair. Do you have a shop you recommend? Keh wants 200 clams just to look at it. That's more than the hourly rate of what my divorce lawyer charged.
I mean, I can feel your pain, because you messed up the science part and you didn't get what you are expecting to. Stylistically, however, the photos are lovely, and I think the colors that came out work better with this shoot.
Maybe not exactly what you were expecting, but these photos are enchanting. Number 12 in particular is really outstanding.
Thank you! I definitely feel way better about them now, thankfully. I appreciate it!
The skin tones on there were just magical. I think these are really good shots.
Thank you!! Very pleased with the shoot once I got over my development expectations.
I so agree with you. Most of the times our expectations as photographers are ruining the whole experience. I've been working on learning how to let go and not having expectations on my creative collabs. Of course, if it's a paid gig you have to deliver certain results and having a plan along with expectations is not a bad thing. But if it's a "play shoot" we have to have fun first and photographs are secondary. Number 9 looks very pretty in sepia/black and white!
Oh yeah, paid gigs definitely have to meet certain expectations and ideas, but I do find that it can be a good exercise if we don't mistake it for the only acceptable outcome outside of the job. And thank you! I'm so glad I revisited all of these.
Great video! We’re often too hard on ourselves! These portraits turned out great! Here’s to happy accidents! 📸📷🎞️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!! I gotta get back to video making.
This video is so amazingly true. I have photos I have wanted to throw away & other people have said they are good. As time past I agreed & I was glad that I listened to them. Some of the photo have became my favorites. Sometimes we are not the best judge of our photos for the reasons you mentioned.
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So true, and I'm glad you held onto the ones you dismissed too fast! I find it super fascinating to look back on very old work of mine that I don't particularly remember. It's the most like I'll ever get to viewing my own work as someone else's.
I think #12 is especially beautiful. You must like it also as you used it for the thumbnail.
Haha, yes. It meets good thumbnail standards, but I do also enjoy it quite a bit.
My favorites of this episode are: 4 - 5- 6 -8 - 9 - 13 -15 -16 & 19. My top five are: 16 - 8 - 6 - 9 & 15. I think an intrinsic part of film photography is the probability of failure and a constant check of expectations, even with the most systematic approach we work with a medium with a high level of uncertainty. I think it is better to embrace this, instead of fall in frustration. A result is better than no results, and a mistake can be an opportunity.
So true!! I think people are lured by all of the control in digital into thinking they know exactly what should happen. Thank you!!
A similar thing happened to me recently. I bought some rolls of Bergger Pancro 400 in 120 and didn't realize they were already expired. The rolls had some issues with the backing paper. The photos I took have a strange texture that is very noticeable especially in the shadows. Initially I was very disappointed, but after sharing those photos on social media anyway, I realized that people liked the photos and didn't care that they weren't perfect. I was the only one who cared.
Yes!! There are definitely times when you have to meet a certain technical need for a job or whatever, but otherwise, the variety of what makes things work and not work is so wide and I think best defined when viewed from multiple perspectives.
I totally agree with what you are saying in this video! Images that I once thought were pure garbage, can be seen in a different light than my initial expectations, and become more powerful with time away from them! This looked like a fun shoot and I agree, the images have their own unique flair and are wonderful!!
Thank you!! And yes! I'm so glad I am not one to throw away images immediately. I'd have lost SO much if I was convinced that my initial thoughts of a photo were the the absolute fact about the photos.
I shot a kiev consistently for about 5 years. Mostly indoors. Never outdoors with flash. 1/30th second sych speed and my limited skills couldn't make the camera do what i wanted it to do.
I pulled them out of the closet for the first time in 15 years. And i'll shoot with them at the end of may.
The one thing i'll be doing differently when i play with them outside is the humble neutral density filter. I think it would be an asset with that fuji lens.
Ahh, yes. I really should bring some NDs with me when I bring that lens out. I always forget about those things ... Thank you for the reminder! And I really need to give a Kiev a try one day. They seem to have a unique charm.
@@JamieMPhoto oh i wouldn't do that. unless your a masochist. 26 years ago getting a kiev to run consistently and reliably was worth all the extra frustration, fiddling and wasted film and ritual. there were no affordable entry level mf slrs.
today a kiev kit cost the same as a bronica, mamiya or good tlr. I got a cla'd texas leica for less than what you can find a keiv kit on the bay.
the glass is nice. I used the glass on a mamiya 645 1000's for years. while the commie bodies and backs were ignored.
the less time you spend fighting your equipment or emulsion the more time you get to compose and think about your shot.
I'm in a weird place artistically. I got a closet full of toys i've been buying for 20 years. I like pulling em out and using them again with everything i've learned since they got stored.
@@cecilsharps Definitely true! I won't be spending much -- if anything -- but it would definitely be fun to play with if I get a chance. Very interesting that the lenses work on Mamiyas, though. I never knew that! Speaking of Bronicas, I just sold and then traded my way directly back into one. ha ha. They're terribly underrated and I think people should be looking to those if they want quality MF at not outrageous prices.
@@JamieMPhoto it requires an adapter. they used to be available for 20 bucks. no clue what the current market rate would be.
some people went as far as to adapt the kiev lenses to a pentax 67. I'm sure that required more expense and finesse than would be worth it today.
I'm waiting on the post lady to complete my bronica trifecta today. I have an etr, gs-1 and today an sqb.
It's silly why i bought it but it was easier to get than a 6x6 back for the gs1.
my enlarger only does up to 6x6 and i didn't want to crop.
@@JamieMPhoto What a tiny, tiny thing the sq is compared to the gs. I see now why the hassie is so popular. that extra mm on the negative adds so much weight and bulk on the gs-1.
I've got to find someone to work on the prism finder, open it up or replace it. the glass itself moves a mm or so and rattles.
i think it foam deterioration but i have very mixed results with diy camera repair.
Do you have a shop you recommend? Keh wants 200 clams just to look at it. That's more than the hourly rate of what my divorce lawyer charged.
I mean, I can feel your pain, because you messed up the science part and you didn't get what you are expecting to. Stylistically, however, the photos are lovely, and I think the colors that came out work better with this shoot.
Thank you! As much as I wanted the colors the way I envisioned them, I have to agree.